BZ's BBS, Thursday, 3-3-22, w/co-host LONNIE POINDEXTER and Cybersecurity Expert MIKE FITZPATRICK, Pt I:

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at the saloon, where the speechis free with the booze is not in
twenty twenty two, right here,right now, by the way, today
is March the third year of ourLord, twenty twenty two. I am
done with bipartisanship or compromised and leftthis have all declared. We're on an

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open war footing against you. Andfinally, I need to tell you this.
It's very important. I love mycountry. I am sure it's less
leftist leaders and anybody who won't putAmerica in air. Lawful citizens first obey
the US Constitution, the Bill ofRights, uphold the rule of law,

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and embraced due process. Demarrats leftistsin the American media. Maggots say that
makes me a white supremacist terrorist extremist. You know what, if loving my
country makes me an extremist, thenso be it. Well, I'm in
the saloon, and Lonnie Poindexter isin the saloon, and tonight we're going
to be speaking to a very goodguest of ours, who is Mike Fitzpatrick,

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because so much of what will beoccurring falls into his realm right now.
At this point, however, asper normal, I think I need
to do this the bloviating zepleans heyjackassdot com Chicago death Toll out Dames courtesy
of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, andyou can find this. I found it

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on heyjackass dot com, heyjackass dotcom illustrating Chicago values in Chicago the great
land of Lori Lightfoot, the currentlovely mayor at this point in time for
final February tally versus twenty twenty onenow shot and killed forty one. That's
up twenty one percent. Shot andkilled one hundred and twenty eight. Oh
oh, that's down fifteen percent,Luri, what are you doing? And

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total shot one hundred and sixty nine. That's down nine percent. Total homicides
uh forty three, that's up eightpercent from twenty twenty one. Now the
week in progress February twenty seven toMarch fifth, shot and killed five,
shot and wounded thirty one, Totalshot thirty six and total homicides five.
I got a great stat coming foryou and you're to date. Shot and

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killed eighty eight, shot wounded threehundred and twenty seven. That was a
great engine for Chevrolet. By theway, total shot four hundred and fifteen,
total homicides ninety five. Now,according to the twenty twenty two Chicago
shot clock, it just got alittle lower. A person is shot every
three minutes and thirty three seconds inChicago, and a person is murdered every

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fifteen minutes and twenty four seconds inthe great City of Chicago. By the
way, as opposed to last week, a person is shot two minutes more
frequently this week than just last week. What the hell the bovians? Hey

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jackass dot com? Chicago death tollup damed courtesy of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot.
We're going to go into a coupleof pieces of news before I get
to Mike Fitzpatrick. But first,you know, what the hell, let's
see mikey there by the way,I am here. Can you hear me?
I can? Indeed, now,Mike known as Mike Fitzpatrick otherwise known

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as Mike with the last name ofFitzpatrick. Can you tell us Mike Fitzpatrick
Fitzpatrick, Mike, where can yoube found? What are you and where
can you be found? And whatare you in charge of? Comma,
sir, Well, let's see,I'm founder and CEO of nCX Group,

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and we're an information risk management firmand we work with companies and organizations to
find the holes before the bad guysfind the holes in their security systems and
within their IT systems. And soI'm responsible from everything from making sure the
lights stay on to making sure projectsget done. So you can find us

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at wwwncxgroup dot com, www Ncxgroupdot com or nCX Group on Twitter and
CX Group on Facebook and CX Groupon LinkedIn. One thing that I should
point out about Mike I've wanted to, but I know what the answer would

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be. Mike deals with a lotof medium range and some smaller and on
the other hand, some really big, big name clients, and I have
wanted to ask you who they are, but I'm not going to because I
know you can't. But let mejust assure the people that are listening that

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Mike Fitzpatrick has been in dabiz forquite some time and he isn't just a
guy that you found on the cornerof walk and don't walk and doesn't know
anything about what he's talking about.He has some serious chops in terms of
cybersecurity. And let's just say hisclients are big. Let's just say some

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of his clients are really big.One of the first things I discovered from
Mike Fitzpatrick. However, the veryfirst time I had you won. I
should have known this, but Inever really thought about it because quite frankly,
my personal cybersecurity sucketh large time.GI. But would we not be

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shocked, Mike Fitzpatrick at how crapmost cybersecurity and firewalls and the protection of
most corporations or businesses really is.It's tragically it would I be accurate in
attempting to thrust it over into kindof the the tragically inept category, sir?

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I wouldn't necessarily go that far.I you know, I will say
that companies, in order organizations arespending more time and spending more money on
trying to get their arms around this. The problem is they didn't do it
soon enough, and a lot ofthings. Matter of fact, I was
on the phone with clients today andwe were talking about when we started working

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together fifteen years ago on a projectand how just certain simple things like code
and you know, exploited code andbeing used to exfiltrate data back then was
maybe the most horrible thing you coulddeal with. Now it is. It

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is three hundred and sixty degree asymmetricalwarfare. You know, it is an
interesting leap that everything has taken.And you know, if this, if
the playing field from a cybersecurity standpointchanges and becomes very offensive, there's no

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rules for this, and it's goingto get really bad if that, if
it takes that track with everything inRussia, Ukraine and all other interested parties.
Mike Fitzpatrick would would I be kindof correct in saying that originally,

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when you first got into cybersecurity,perhaps the bulk of it was simpler to
hey, somebody stole my damn clientlist. A lot of it was a
lot of it was that way busyI mean one of the first things we
did when when when when I startedthe firm in two thousand and two,
and I'm in this march, Iwill have been in it for forty years.

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And so one of the things thatwe did in two thousand and two
is we did what was called wardriving at the time and just in our
local town just to see what openedWi Fi ports there were what what Wi
Fi? What Wi Fi networks wereopen? So did you get driving around?

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Yeah, just driving around and soin in I think I still have
the video somewhere and so we videotapedthe whole thing. And so one of
the things that you know, wewere able to find god in probably about
thirty minutes, thirty five minutes,we were able to find about two hundred

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and sixty open networks no security whatsoever, one of which was the water district,
local water district, and we wereable to actually get on their network
and make our way to the skatersystems. So, you that was interesting.
You didn't just go by, youknow, Johnny Nimrod's house. You

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went by businesses and and I meanwe're just we're just driving down the street
and they're just sing open left andright. I mean, I'll have to
play the video sometimes because it's justdank ding ding ding going down the street.
It's crazy. And yes, andand Lonnie was here for this.
Oh was he? Was he inthe car with you? No, but

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he's seen the video. Oh okay, Lennie, I'm going to be doing,
uh an impersonation of Mike Fitzpatrick inthe car when he was going around
driving through the neighborhood. And thatone's stupid, and that one's stupid,
and that one is really stupid,and that one is stupid, and that
one and that one are stupid.They're all stupid. What was that a

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summary? That was the executive summary? That is the executive summary the I
think. And we called the waterdistrict to tell them that their stuff was
open, and and you know,trying to be good people and good to
be good citizens and and you knowthey they they took a front to it,

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and but you know they got theygot it cleaned up. And then
I guess it's probably about I wantto say, six months later, we
get this call from this hacker andhe goes by the handle of mister Echo.
And one of one of the interestingthings that we learned or I learned
at that time is that hackers eachhave their own ethical line oh okay,

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and when somebody crosses their ethical line, they see it as a moral imperative
to strike back. So this particularhacker decided to be a white hat this
particular day, and so he contactedus, came out to the office.
We talked, talked to him,we vetted him, and we went by

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and checked ourselves. But his his, uh, what he was telling us
is that a local grocery store,which is I think they're national, definitely
all of California, starts with aV oh okay, and their WiFi was
open in every grocery store and youcould skim credit cards and get to the

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customer loyalty database lovely. And sowe went by validated it sure enough,
and I made a call to theCIO of the grocery store company. And
it's amazing how much pushback you gotat that time when you're just trying to
help people, and it's just,you know, it's the things that make

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you go hunt. Really is.That's how, for example, you got
Seal Team six, and that's,for example, how you got the explosion
of Rodney King. Let me tellyou two very brief stories. There was
a dude who has passed away nowwho's the father of all the Seal teams
named Dick Marsenko. And Dick Marsenkowas a badass. He learned at the

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hands of essentially the original Seal inWorld War Two through buds, and in
the process of doing that, hehad something called Red Cell, and Red
Cell's job was to go and infiltratenaval bases, which they did successfully every

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damned time. Well, he shamedthe crap out of the US Navy Comma
maybe something you shouldn't do, butthey told him to do his job,
so he did his job. That'seventually how you got Seal Team six,
and that's eventually how naval administrators endedup putting him in federal prison for the
miss air quotes misappropriation of materiel endof air quotes. The other story about

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LAPD rampart. One of the reasonsthat you got the Rodney King riots was
because the individual who had videoed theRodney King vehicle stop decided that he was
going to take said video go tohis local LAPD station, offer it over
and say, you know, youguys might want to watch this because I

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think you have a problem. Theresponse at that station was you can get
out of here. So if thatwere you as an individual, and you
were told essentially, and I don'tknow what transpired in terms of verbiage between
the two, but essentially you weretold to go to hell? Would you
want would you not consider perhaps goingto KTLA or whatever it is that they

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did down there. So people don'tlike to have their undergarments exposed, even
though you may be attempting to doit for a really good reason, and
perhaps they need to listen to you. And that's called shooting the messenger.
Boom dead, Lonnie. You don'thave any experiences with somebody attempting to shoot

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you, do you? Because Ido? Are you kidding? I'm known
as the black face of white supremacies. Oh that's right, that's right.
That desert the first one of thenight. Yep, I forget about that.
I think he's going to have alicense plate made with that. Yeah,
if I could swing it in California, and would it fit? You'd

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have to put it on your framelike my frame outside? Uh huh?
Oh boy, Hey, Mike,you haven't been like told that as a
whistleblower, and people have attempted toshoot you, or you know, d
resume out of somebody's system, ortell you that you're full of crap.

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That's never happened to you know.But then again, you know, I
make sure all of my guys haveweapons. You know that they know how
to use weapons. They carry weapons, and because you never know with some
of the projects that we go into. You you know, it used to
be early on you were in someinteresting parts of different cities and you just

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didn't know what kind of things youmight see at night. So all my
guys are prepared. Okay, that'sgood on every scale. I can speak
to incidences where he's caught heat.This is back when he was a part
of the city planning for a communityand he would speak up when they were

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going down these rat holes of ridiculousspending that they wanted to do, and
he caught heat for that. Iwon't name the city, but I remember
the frustration and uh and it reallyspeaks to and you know, this was
prior to me getting involved with mediaand radio and television out of DC.

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I remember those days and Mike man, can you believe? And he would
share it with me and say yougotta be kidding. You know, this
is just common sense stuff, andyou begin to learn and understand that there
is another agenda, and then yougo like like I go to d C
and you see it on a grandscale there, you know, with how

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they go about plying their trade,and it's really frustrating. It's frustrating.
It's like you work hard work,living and taking care of your kids and
your family and your mortgage and goingto church on Sunday and all the things
to make your model citizen, andthen these y'all, who's the money that

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comes up out of your pocket offthe top right, just goes into a
big barrel. I don't care whatbucket they say it's in. It goes
in and disappears. You don't knowwhere it ends up in terms of the
buffoonery that they put for. Idon't trust almost any aspect of government anymore,

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because when people in DC or Sacramentoor whatever your capital happens to be
in whatever state or town you inhabit, my guess is that the bulk of
the funds, though they say it'sbeen earmarked for X, goes into the
damn general fund, and then outof that they can do anything they wish

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with Social Security as a for instance. And the other thing that I didn't
know until I started getting into politicswas DC speak, because a budget cut
in DC speak, from one fiscalyear to the next. If if you're
in fiscal year twenty twenty one andfor fiscal year twenty twenty two, you

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didn't get an increase in your budget, that's called a cut. Huh Okay,
Now, ladies and gentlemen poison girlsin your reality, that's called the
same. It's called let's say youhave a budget of thirty five thousand dollars

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for twenty twenty one, and let'ssay your budget for twenty twenty two is
thirty five thousand dollars. You don'tcall that a budget cut. You say,
thank you, I still have myjob. But DC considers that a
budget cut. So here's what I'dlike to do for the show. We've

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got a couple of new stories thatjust came in hot off the wire,
so to speak, and i'd liketo go over those. I've got some
happy stories to actually go over.Then I need to get into the meat
of the matter tonight. Uh So, uh, let's let me start with
this first story, and that I'dlike both of you to weigh in on
that this is very, very developed, developing, but it bodes terribly.

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Uh. I was watching TV justbefore I started the show, and then
Lonnie came in and we had toturn the TV off because you know,
if the TV's on, it drainsmy internet and everything stops. So that's
one of the things that I Mike, if you think I'm kidding, Lennie,
am I kidding? He's not Kidding'sin Hooterville, Mike. I literally

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have to go and turn off theTV. Then I have to go to
the computer in my other room,turn that computer off, pull it off
the Internet, and then I haveto make sure that the wifely wife is
not on the Internet, so thatthe only thing on the Internet is Lonnie
and me and speaker. Right now, that's it's it's almost like you're running

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Internet with string and ten cans.I told Frontier now, and I don't
mind saying this because they suck folks. People say, you know, you
shouldn't be naming names. Okay,Well, I have the proof. Anytime
that I want to get onto theInternet and run an Internet test here,
I have Frontier Communications, and Iuse that second term loosely communications. A

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frontier communications around here in South Sacramentois like piano wire and chewing gum.
That's the communications that they consider ohreally good here. So basically, folks,
if you're in South Sacramento and you'renot in a brand new home,
because they got great crap in brandnew homes. But if you're in a
South Sacramento home and it's an olderhome, do not important safety tip for

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me to you do not use frontiercommunications. But anyway, before I turned
the TV off, I looked atthis story and this just came in Europe's
largest nuclear power plant on fire aftershelling. Now, can anyone tell me
in what reality is that a goodidea? We already saw what happened to

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Fukushima, We know what happened toChernobyl, We know what occurred at TMI,
and the nuclear plant that was herein Sacramento was the same kind of
type of reactor because I worked thereas a security guard in the early seventies

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very briefly. That was a Babcockand Wilcox design, same as TMI.
Well, eventually they pulled the Sacramentonuclear reactor down, not because of its
nuclear aspect, but because they couldn'tkeep the damn transformer running. Oh well,
that's the story for another day.That would be a ranchall Marage,

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right, yeah, Rancho Secolo,yep, Ranchosco. Two massive cooling towers
that you can still see from Claystation. Yeah. Yes, you can still
see them on Claystation Road as yougo east from Highway ninety nine. They're
still up there. And they dohave a nice fishing place over there.
You can go fishing in this big, big, big, big pond that
they have over there. Now thefish did you catch will glow at night,

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But other than that, it's greatfishing. And they have two heads.
Well that's so they can eat morebait. That's exactly why a spokesman
for Europe's largest nuclear plants has thefacilities on fire after Russia attack the power
station in the southern Ukrainian city ofenter Hodar. A government official tells the

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Associated Press elevated levels of radiation arebeing detected near the site of that nuclear
power plant. It begins with aZ and I'm not going to begin to
even pronounce that, which provides abouttwenty five percent of the country's power generation.
It also happens to be the thirdlargest nuclear plant in all of Europe.
So if somebody decides that they're goingto hold the reactor of that,

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what people are intimating is that,oh, you thought your Nobyl was bad?
Well, depending upon the prevailing prairiewinds. How does a good portion
of Europe not being occupied for onehundred thousand years sound to you today?
So that story just came out.Then there's another one now that was Europe.

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This one is here. Let mesee if I can find it.
Yeah, here it is. Thisis from the week just came out today,
five ten pm. As a matterof fact, the Senate today narrowly
passed a gop led measure to endthe National Emergency Declaration for the COVID nineteen
pandemic. Okay, now doesn't itLonnie? Does that make sense to you?
Because all of a sudden state ofthe union, you know, day

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before yesterday it was okay, youcould dig your mask off. They said
it was okay. But the fortyeight to forty seven vote came after several
demarrat absences allowed Republicans to eat outthe necessary simple majority. But here's the
headline to the story. Biden pledgesto veto Senate past bill ending COVID emergency

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declaration? Does this not Lonnie andMike sound like, oh, Justin Trudeau
or I don't know Stalin or mPutin. Has one ever heard of a
dictator or someone with the ego thesize of Detroit ever voluntarily give up power

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control which yields money. I haven't. This is continued proof to me any
thoughts on that money because Biden says, Hey, it's okay to come into
the house with no masks, butI'm not gonna see my power. Nah.

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Yeah, it's I think it's speedto the greater objective or agenda,
which speaks toward moving us all towardthe the great reset. But here's the
thing. This could bite him inthe keyster because I was out shopping today
and I was watching the folks thatyou know with no mask on. Now,

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this is because of what the Presidenthas said. I was riding an
uber. There's still wearing masks andwhat have you. But people are sick
and tired of the masks. Andthis is regardless of political affiliation. People
are sick and tired. Yeah.So maybe with this latest thing, if
he plans on doing, it'll stirup enough heat, you know, We've

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got thousands of truckers headed toward Washington, DC as we speak, and I
think this will add fuel to thefire if we can even find the fuel
there you go. That's a storythat we'll get to in time. Mike
Patrick, down in southern California whereyou are, are you still seeing a
lot of people wearing masks in yourareas? You're seeing less and less.

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It's interesting because the governor here hasstarted to repeal the mass mandates and all
of this, and we're seeing areduction of it. But my friend Melissa
Melendez, my state senator, hasbeen trying and has been pushing to end

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the state of emergency here in Californiafor the better part of a year and
a half. Sure with her,her and Kevin Kylie up here in Sacramento
as well. Props to Kylie soSCR. Five, which is the bill
that will get a full hearing onthe floor of the Senate for the first

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time ever here in California to endnew some power reign. That is on
March fifteenth, Newsome ends his massmandates. I think on March twelfth,
yeah, eleventh, days before thehearing, right, eleventh or twelve,
Yeah, So for all of thosethat are listening. Melissa is going to

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be running for a lieutenant governor ofthe state of California. I highly highly
endorse her. She is a constitutionalconservative and she does the job as a
representative the way that it's supposed tobe done. Regardless of your party.
She's there to represent you. She'sfantastic. And let me just mention,

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being the only single guy on thebroadcast here this evening, I think she's
hot too. I haven't seen her. Good looking woman. Oh okay,
yeah, good good look. Well, you know, but she's married that
deserves it. She's she's married ina mom of five, and her husband's

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a commander in the navy. AndI think he could take you on it.
Yeah he's a badass. Okay,Well, there's nothing saying that.
You know, you can't look allright. At the end of this article,
the president's spokesman said, if Congresswere to pass this resolution, the
statement continued, the President would vetoit. So there you go. If

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you want to know. Well,it's interesting. I was also talking.
I guess it's probably two days ago. I was talking to a business associate
of mine in Australia. He's justoutside of Melbourne and all the all the
masks are now gone in Australia.No more holding back, no more,

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no more lockdown. But the caseshave skyrocketed. Huh imagine that, but
no one's talking about it because they'reall fixed on Ukraine. There's over six
thousand cases a day now in Austria. They've never been that high. Could
that be from uh, those whohave been poked? There's a lot of

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that. But you know, peopleget out and get back in the mix
again and you're you're, you know, out there in the social super humanity.
You know there's going to be infectionagain. There's another just go away
because you're not out. There's anotheraspect of that. I wish I had
Jack Alexander un right now who couldexplain this aspect. And it deals with

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an area involving people that you wouldn'tthink of, and I won't go over
it for this show, but maybesomeday there's another additional factor that you wouldn't
consider in terms of Australia and whythis is spreading, why it's spread before
and yet it blew back on everybodyelse in Australia as well. And if

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that's not confusing, I don't knowwhat the hell is. So we'll take
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we're back. I'm here with MikeFitzpatrick and I'm here with Lonnie Poindexter,

(37:28):
Hey, and we're talking about acouple of stories that just went out.
What I'd like to do very quicklyis go through some happy stories because I
know in today we'll get to allthe depressing crap. Don't worry, all
right, fear not. But Iwant to do some some happy stuff because,

(37:49):
as I say every show, there'sstill a lot of good stuff that's
going out there. So let's gothere first. For right now, it's
time for happy stories and good times. This is from ABC News. It
says in the headline, economic concernshurt Biden's approval keep demarrats in peril ahead

(38:10):
of midterms according to a poll.I don't know, I'd say that's happy
news. Here's another story from abcnewsdot Go dot com, and I'll read
you the headline, but then you'llsee immediately what isn't in the headline?

(38:32):
Now, both Wannie and Mike,I'm sure you've heard of the phrase burying
the lead. Yes, okay,well this was quite effectively buried because when
I read you the headline and thenyou discover the thrust of the story.
The deal is on this from ABCNews, you got to go four paragraphs

(38:55):
down to discover what they're really talkingabout. And that's it. The story
is. The headline is economic concernshurt Biden's approval, keep demoats in peril
ahead of the midterms, says apoll. Well, let's see one,
two, three, four, fourparagraphs down. It finally gets to it.

(39:17):
It says the result a career lowthirty seven percent of Americans approve of
Biden's job approval ratings that hasn't yetgotten any better these days. Here's another
happy story. Shell is deciding thatit's going to pull out of Russia,
and what that ends up doing isthat dumps the entire gaz Prom deal.

(39:37):
Gaz Prom is essentially the number onepetroleum maker in all of Russia. So
I got to say that's a happystory as well. Here's another one.
It's like, well, no,I'm just gonna have to play this for
you and hope that it can buildthe wall high enough to keep out a

(40:00):
a vaccine. The vaccine can stopthe spread of these diseases because you can't
build a wall high enough to keepout a vaccine. The vaccine can stop
the spread of these diseases. Okay, that's a really good question. That

(40:23):
was in the State of the Union, and so that's just illustrative of the
quality of information that you heard.Then there's this one too, which I
can't pass up. Putin may circlekey with tanks, but it'll never gain
the hearts and souls of the Iranianpeople. Putin may circle Keeve with tanks,

(40:44):
but it'll never gain the hearts andsouls of the Iranian people. Oh
okay, oh right, great cutsfrom the State of the Union speech.
Here's something else, And this pissa lot of people off because I found
this in Wyoming public radio. Now, when you think Wyoming, you would

(41:06):
customarily think great planes, big sky, lots of perhaps Buffalo not so many.
But you wouldn't necessarily think that unlessyou're in Helena, that it's a
hotbed of leftism. Well, it'skind of a hotbed of less leftism in

(41:27):
the big areas, you know,big as relative. Here's from Wyoming Public
Media. Senate cuts UW's gender studiesprogram. I could go to the comments
they're down below. But leftists wentinsane over this. The Wyoming Senate voted
sixteen to fourteen to eliminate the Universityof Wyoming gender studies program with a budget

(41:49):
amendment. Well, if you wantto see leftist heads explode, there you
go. Then there was this Lonnie, did you watch or catch a part
of the State of the Union fromBiden bro I didn't watch it at all
because it makes me want to throwsomething through my TV. Okay, and
I still have payments to make onit. Okay. And I watched ten

(42:09):
I watched ten minutes. My wifewanted to watch a little bit to see
what he said about Ukraine, andI go, I can't take this theater
anymore. I gotta go. Okay. And then somebody in the audience said
thirteen during that in reference to thethirteen dead Americans. No reference to them
whatsoever? No, no, no, So I think it was Bobert or

(42:30):
Green, I'm not sure which mademention to that. Here's what no one
else saw or made mention of youguys know Senator Joe Manchin. Right,
Okay, So Senator Joe is aDemo rat with whom was he sitting during

(42:54):
the State of the Union that Idid pick up on the Republicans. To
me, that's broadcasting a message inthe clear. It couldn't be more clear
than that, Lonnie. I'm soglad you mentioned that, because something I'd
always thought about and I would liketo hear from you and Mike on is

(43:21):
from a strategic point of view,he stays Democrat, but he rolls with
Republicans. He could probably just aseasily say just throw in the towel and
says I'll become a Republican. Butthen that opens up a seat, you
know what I'm saying that the Democratscould fill when his term is up.

(43:46):
If he stays where he is,he's that proverbial monkey wrench thrown into the
gears. Well, he's a guythat does not comport anymore with the Demo
party. Two guys come to mindwhen I think of Nobody really wants to
think of it, but when youthink of moderate demoats, I think of

(44:09):
like Joe Lieberman comes to mind,and Zell Miller comes to mind when I
think of guys like that. Well, Mansion is a moderate West Virginia Demorat.
He opted to sit on the sideof the House Chamber which is traditionally

(44:30):
reserved for Republicans rather than other membersof his party. And if you go
back in history very recently, hewas the fly in the Demorat ointment in
terms of not pushing the Voting Actthat essentially just takes over all your local

(44:52):
elections and federalizes most every election andmake sure that Demorats can cheat in perpetuity.
And then he also, if I'mnot mistaken, Lannie the fly in
the ointment in the Infrastructure bill aswell. So I found just the observational
aspect of Joe Manchin because the firsttime I saw he was leaning over to

(45:14):
somebody and I couldn't remember who itwas, and then I thought, well,
that isn't that a Republican. Whatis a Republican doing comitsing with Joe
Manchin. Yeah, I would sayhe probably needs to hire more bodyguards.
Yep, Okay, that's the thirdone tonight, very true. But what

(45:37):
his third shot? That's that isclear to me, That is very clear.
The other thing that I have thisis this great? What is this?
This is about a twenty second cutthat I'm sure that both of you
have heard before, but maybe someof the other folks that are listening here.
This is from Ron de Santis inFlorida, as he goes up to

(46:00):
the podium and is about to makea speech. You do not have to
wear those masks. I mean,please take it. Honestly, it's not
doing anything and we got to stopwith this tovid theater. So you want
to wear it, fine, butthis isn't this is ridiculous. All right,
Well, it's good to be aus aff. And so that was
Ron DeSantis with a bunch of kidsin the background, all of whom were

(46:23):
wearing masks, likely told to wearmasks by I don't know whatever colleges or
high schools they represented in South Florida. And then he comes up and says,
okay, you know it's theater.It's kabuki, theater of the absurd.
Yes, And there are only afew people who would have the guts

(46:45):
to say anything about that, andhe was one of them. Then I
noticed this just came out today.Two more stories that are good, that
are positive for happy stories. Thenwe're going to have to get into the
depressing crap because we still have tocover everything from Ohio legislature pass permitless concealed
kerry, and the bill is nowgoing to Mike DeWine, the governor of
Ohio, so permitless carry is aboutto be approved in Ohio. That has

(47:09):
to be a good thing. Andthen another one, The Trucker crypto crackdown
in Canada is fueling a GOP backlashin the US, and at least one
House GOP member has introduced a billto prevent our government from doing the same

(47:36):
damned thing, to which I canonly say, that's wonderful, that's absolutely
great. Any thoughts on either oneof those things or all of those things,
Mike or or Lani. As faras happy stories, I think one
of my happiest stories in everything that'sgoing on right now is is how the

(48:01):
people of Poland, Romania, Hungary, Germany are opening their homes and their
doors and providing for all the peoplethat are evacuating Ukraine. I'm so impressed
with everything that I'm seeing online.I saw people at the Whaling Wall in
Jerusalem with Ukrainian flags draped over themand praying You're seeing it in world football.

(48:30):
Gas Prom. You mentioned gas Prom. They sponsor most of the world
football teams, and all of themhave cut their ties with gas Prom.
Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. And that'swhy I say again that happy, happy

(48:52):
stories and good time. So nowit's time to kind of get into the
meat of the matter because all ofthis dovetails. I want to do a
great reset show. Lonnie has said, Hell, yes, it's gonna have
to wait until after I get mynew studio rebuilt. But I am going
to do eventually a great reset show. But before we begin, there's there's

(49:16):
this that is coming directly out ofthe Oval Office that everybody needs to hear
as a matter of fact, programto bring you a message from the President
of the United States, my fellowJamaicans. Our nation is in crisis.
The Decepticon variant Hobo nineteen is stillkilling fat people, Inflation is destroying our

(49:37):
fart jars, and now that's Ukraineis being sexually sexually ramped. That's why
I've asked Congress to a full scaleattack on Joe Rogan, to not not
not Joe Rogan, the Russian guy, the guy with the shirt, Ponie
Tang man's a bad dude. Maybewe gotta come together. Man, get

(49:57):
this guy going. He's got cranes, He's got all cranes. Were better,
build back, the build back,a bit of better, the better,
the bitter, better the bitter,better, build back, better plan.
Man, you say it three timesfast, pal, you say it?
God s guy. Anyway, let'sstart the show. So let's start

(50:22):
the show, shall we? Andnow let's go with with a what what
what? You can't play that outthere? Just tank, I'm doing the
funniest, one of the funniest showsever. I love Well. Now,

(50:45):
let's let's as my my college.God. I had this big time.
I started taking law in college andElton Long was this big, huge,
tall black professor and and you neverwanted to make eye contact with him because
if you did, he would makesure and call on you for whatever case.

(51:07):
He'd ask you to review a case, and then he'd always say,
contrast and compare, well, contrastand compare this. There's no way we
were ever going to unite Ukraine.I mean, you should be Afghanistan.
No way that was going to happen. And there's no way we were ever

(51:27):
going to unite Ukraine. I meanshe could be Afghanistan. No way that
was going to happen. So thatwas the fake along with the real.
So what happened, folks, isthat Russia invaded Ukraine on Tuesday February the
second, twenty second. Excuse me, and Russian President of Vladimir Putin,

(51:51):
who has been in office, bythe way since twenty twelve, has been
sending messages in the clear for quitesome time. He would do precisely what
he is doing now, and soI would just like to remember or remind
folks of this. Chechnya was reincorporatedinto Russia under President Clinton nineteen ninety nine

(52:17):
to two thousand and that's where thestart of the war bolstered the domestic popularity
of Vladimir Putin, as the campaignwas started just one month after he became
Russian Prime minister. So that conflictgreatly contributed to the big changes in Russian
politics and society. Now I'm goingto I'm going to highlight four events and

(52:42):
there is definite linkage here. First, Putin invaded Georgia in two thousand and
eight under President George Bush. Putinannexed Crimea in twenty fourteen under Barack Hussein
Obama, putin did thing under PresidentTrump for four years, then putin invade

(53:05):
Ukraine under Joe Biden in twenty twentytwo. So anything in common, Lonnie,
Mike, anything your thoughts. I'mso glad you mentioned this because I've
been commenting in my social media thisvery thing, and just basically to sum
up that there's no way I'm usingnice word ahead something else was going to

(53:27):
say, you can I know,I know I can speak freely here.
Yes you can't. But there wasno way in hell that I'll just put
it like that that he would dowhat he's doing now, had you had
a president who was all there mentallyand had the wavos spiritual and otherwise to

(53:53):
stand up to it. Guy,because in dealing with strong man, if
you know, looking in the Bible, how do you deal with it?
You only we can deal with themfrom strength. So exactly, I should
have learned that in third grade orsecond grade. That's when my dad taught
me, thank you. Yes,I'm non confrontational by nature, and my

(54:14):
dad saw that early about me.He says, Sunday bullies, they will
harass you until you confront them,and they might have a crew around them,
and he said, in the onetalking the most trash, that's the
one you punch in the nose firsthardest. Yes, he said you might.
My dad said you'll punch a littlelower and then hit him in the

(54:40):
nose. Yeah, that's probably tworings on that one. Okay. Oh,
but it because this is playground stuff. As you say, it's playground
one oh one. So he's takingadvantage of the mindset who sits in the

(55:01):
Oval office. And I don't understandwhy. Well, I know common sense
people see this, but there's enoughAmericans out there that are completely clueless,
clueless as to what's going on.You don't have to be a politician or
a political science major or professor.I'd be as gifted as my dear brother

(55:25):
here sitting in the saloon, ormy brother who is called into the show
to understand this. Yet this iswhat we deal with. I just and
here's the here's the downside of this, and there's multiple downsides. People are
dying because of it. When thesecond hour begins in four minutes, I

(55:53):
want to go back to a toMike Fitzpa and talk very specifically about cybersecurity
and what we're facing now. Butthe thing that you mentioned that is so
particularly galling to me is and maybeto you, I would guess, and

(56:15):
Mike and anybody else who's listening thathas just a whit of common sense under
their pate would be why is itWe're the only ones that can see how
this stuff works. And the otherthing, the aspect, the thing,
Lonnie, that you reminded me of, is I have most death come to

(56:35):
the conclusion that leftists don't care whoperishes under their ideology as long as their
ideology is held sanchro sanct it mustbe number one, and how we get
there is immaterial. What price hasto be paid in terms of budget or

(56:58):
toil, or they couldn't give ashit less about. I am absolutely guaranteed
of that. Now let me goding. Okay, here you gory it.
Okay, okay, I'm handing forthe first time ever, I'm handing
Lonnie. So see see it's upto him. And people think that this

(57:23):
was a sound effect. No,it's a little bell that I have right
here, and it goes. Itgoes on the desk, and I pick
it up anytime I want to ringit. But I honestly truly believe that
anyone or anything who gets in theway of their philosophy is fodder, and

(57:45):
normal people couldn't see that the lackof reaction to all of these things was
building up to the coal in nineteenninety three, which led to nine to
eleven, to all of these thingsthat were not blockades to putin proverbial red

(58:07):
lines in Syria that people continued tocross. And the only people recently,
and they've been quantified as nuts butthey kept a clamp on shit was Reagan
and Trump because in a way theykind of thought Reagan was nuts, and

(58:28):
they kind of thought Trump was nuts, and they couldn't quite predict what Reagan
was going to do. I don'tthink very many people could predict what Trump
was gonna do, except when hisforeign policy addressed. And I've got a
great it's the quintessential four minute cutof Trump foreign policy after the break,

(58:51):
because I love this cut coming up, Oh my god. But when we
get back, by the way,I got about a minute. When I
get back, I'm going to playthat a little bit later, and I'm
going to talk to Mike Fitzpatrick aboutsome specific cyber security concerns, and uh,
Lonnie, I'm gonna show you thisright now. Here is my pre

(59:15):
typed up pages. These are questions. He's so organized, he these are
questions for Mike Fitzpatrick. I won'tget past page one of all. We
only get through we only we onlyget through about two or three. You
know that. Yeah, yeah,exactly. I'm not even sure i'll get
past page one because I've got allthese other stories that just came in to

(59:37):
talk about. But I'm ready togo. Mike Fitzpatrick. He's killing tree
and I did, and I'm proudof it. Because for the round,
let's go. Okay, so i'llsound a bell for this. We're going
to go to a break, andwhen we come back, it's Mike Fitzpatrick

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over there, Lonnie, how areyou ser just fine? My brother just
fine. And we also have MikeFitzpatrick in the saloon. Mike Fitzpatrick,

(01:03:24):
how are you, sir, I'mdoing I was gonna say, Mike went
out to get some vodka. Ohhere's the other thing. Now, just
a little bourbon, Okay, allright, especially nowadays. Okay, hey,
I'll be the first one to admitbut that for the longest time I

(01:03:46):
drank Russian potato water. As amatter of fact, there might be something
in the garage right now. Now. It's not the Russian potato water that
people associate with, real, honestto god Russian potato water with the black
eagle on the front that kind oflooks like the the graphic from the Nazis
or from the Gestapo. It's notthat potato that potato water has I understand,

(01:04:10):
been taken off off of shelves.Stolish Naya is kind of pseudo,
fake kind of potato water. Butin terms of potato water, by the
way, that's also why I recommendthat I have myself in contact with the
Bez's Casey one thirty five Kettle onerefueling team, with whom I always consort

(01:04:30):
at the end and conclusion of theshow. But I also want to remember
I have everybody remember this as well, folks, this is Beezy's final hour,
step up, last call for alcohol. So if you got it,
smoke it the smoking. And it'sjust gonna say, if we're drinking vodka,

(01:04:50):
maybe Tito's by out of Austin,Texas. I was thinking that very
thing I've never had that so isthat Mike fits Patrick. Have you had
that? I have had that?It's handmade craft and handcrafted vodka out of
Austin, Tito. Okay, allright, I thought it was a tequila.
That's where exactly exactly, Yeah,that's a vodka. Okay, I

(01:05:15):
will have to try some. II historically have consumed kettle one for quite
some time because, as I usedto say, life is too short for
cheap potato water. It really is. And I through discovery I'll name names
because what the hell, I don'tcare. I'm not making a billion dollars

(01:05:39):
off the show, and no oneyou know, listens to me, listens
to me on a national level anyway. Smirnoff is just fucking gasoline. You
may as well just start quaffing gasoline. And I used to think initially because
I'd have vodka Collins when I wentout to restaurants and whatnot, and I
didn't think about brands. I just, you know, drank whatever they gave
me a drink and drying whatever theygave me and drank and that's why I

(01:06:01):
drank. So then I started drinkingother potato waters, and I thought,
son of a bitch, there reallyis a difference in this stuff, because
this other junk, and I wentto a couple of others besides Smirnoff,

(01:06:24):
it is. It's gasoline, itreally is. Then I started hitting Stoley
and then what's the other one thatI used to drink for a while,
Gray Goose, and then Kettle One, and I thought, my god,
I have no taste. My sensesare dulled over the years. I can't
see, I can't hear, forshit anymore. I lost my smell.

(01:06:45):
My sense of smell, my senseof taste, except for my wife,
is terrible, absolutely acseptable. ButI could this tongue, this clotted,
fetid tongue right here, could actactually discern the difference in vodka, which
frankly shocked me. So Tito's okayout of Texas. I'm gonna, of

(01:07:09):
course Mike would know about that.I'm going to have to go out and
try some some Tito's. It's goodit'sos and then if if you're looking for
I think the best beer that's availableShiner Bock out of Texas. Yeah,
I'll different with him on that.Here. I can't get anything else,

(01:07:33):
but that's all he's got. Mikesaid that I'm looking at Lennie's. I
knew he was going. He's aShiner Bock commercial coming up right now.
Beer he's rolling side. Okay,wait, wait, I got it.
I got it. You know astory that came up? Okay, good,
it's your fault you started. Mikeremembers where I used to live down

(01:07:58):
in southern California. I had aname that lived across the street from me,
who married well. He married theco founder of Mattel Toys oh Australia.
He married the founder co founder's daughter, so he married well so he

(01:08:19):
didn't have to work. But hewas a golf pro. In fact,
that's how he met his wife becausehe used to teach the co founder of
Mattel Toys Australia. So he hadthe best garage in the neighborhood. He
had the black and white checkered flagfloor for NASCAR. Oh cool. He

(01:08:41):
had signed NASCAR stuff on the walls. He had several fridges in the garage,
so all the guys in the neighborhoodwe all live vicariously through him,
and so we go hang out andwatch Nascar, drink beer. That was
the best garage I've ever seen inmy life, wasn't It was that like
this superior man cave of man cave. It was the epitomy of the superior

(01:09:03):
man cave. Star When I say, the floors were tiled, and you
know it, you could eat offof them, and he kept it immaculate.
So here's the deal, this guywho married well, who could drink
whatever he want. The first timeI drank was it one hundred year old

(01:09:24):
tequila? Was at his place becauseI couldn't afford it. Of the wise
was at his place. He hadall the vodkas, the different names.
That's how I got familiar with Kettleone and all the different ones. Because
his favorite drink was vodka. Theguess who's vodka heat drink? It came

(01:09:44):
in a gallon jug or a fifthjug that was plastic pop off. Oh
remember speaking of gasoline. Oh god, yes, it didn't even come in
a class bottle. It's drake.And he didn't want anything else. I
was going to say, like,you know, maybe some of the finest

(01:10:08):
Tibetan vodka possible. Yeah, popOff, And if you brought him anything
else, he'd say thank you andhe'd put it and it'd be for guests.
But he drank pop Off. Ohmy god. Okay, you remember
you, Mike, I remember.I remember that. That was a spectacular
garage. That was That was afantastic place. Okay, quick story.

(01:10:30):
I don't really tell stories, andthe series I tell are crap. But
a quick story. My parents whenDad was in the Air Force and he
would get through at the end ofthe day, Mom and Dad would have
a glass of wine, a glassof wine very specifically, and the wine
they had was Thunderbird, and theythought they was rocking and rolling until the

(01:10:57):
break of dawn. Till later Commaas an adult Comma, I realized that,
well, Thunderbird is kind of likecat piss. And then only then
did I realize that back then,although they did not think it, they
did not tell us, they didnot portray it. We were fairly poor,
not living in a fabulous neighborhood,although it was beautiful at the time.

(01:11:21):
But Thunderbirds, there we go.I've got stories about you know,
that's what you drink when you're youngand a teenager and sneaking is all you
could afford. Oh yeah, andyou and the why knows that's what?
Okay, I think it Now,this this, it made me think of

(01:11:44):
the term short dog. I knowwhat you know what that is, and
I know what it is, andI bet Mike knows what it is.
But for those people who have notbeen in some of the finer, crappy
establishments around the United Snakes of America, a short dog is a little tea
any bottle that you can stick inI don't know, like a New York
City paper bag, and carry itaround with you and take your pocket or

(01:12:08):
your pocket, yes, thank youvery much, that's true, and just
carry your short dog around and havea hit every once and a while.
But my parents, as I recall, did not have that kind of bottle.
And I have not done my adequateresearch, but I think the thunderbird
from which they quaffed was in anactual bottle. Yes, so thunderbird must

(01:12:30):
have actually made wine cheap as itwas in actual bottles. Now, I'm
not saying it necessarily had a cork, although you know what that was the
fifties and sixties. So yeah,I bet it did have a cork.
I bet it was not a screwtop. Might have been a screw top,
might have been the first screw topsfor all I know. I really
don't know. Okay, how dowe get off of this topic? Took?

(01:12:51):
I don't know, but you know, I think it did go screwtop
in the seventies because they were tryingto pace themselves with boons Farm, as
I recall, and why shouldn't they? And why shouldn't they? Lani is
over here on my right point inhis finger. He nailed it exactly when
they went to that because Boone's Farmwas considered a step up, a premium

(01:13:17):
Jesus. And what was the otherone? Red diamond? Red diamond,
Yeah, tastes so better, diamondred. It depends on which what folks
would call it. They call itmad dog. Oh no, that was
the other one, oh Man,Yeah, Logan David twenty twenty, people
would call it mad dog. Yep, got it forritten about that too.

(01:13:39):
That's that's absolutely fabulous. Now it'scheap wine talk with Busy Lannie and Mike
Fitzpatrick. You came here for cybersecurity. Nah, screw it, we're here
for cheap wine talk. Oh boy, okay, yeah, all right,

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we're to get back into cybersecurity andthe semi serious stuff. And again,
oh my god, I'm on let'ssee, of thirty or forty tabs,
I'm on tab four right now.So something tells me I'm not going to
get to all the stuff. ButI wanted to go, so I asked,
you may have to go an extrahour. Busy, ah. I

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made these various comparisons at the conclusionof the first hour with regard to Putin
invading Georgia in wait under Bush,and then Putin In annexing Crimea in fourteen
under Brack Hussein Obama, and thenPresident Trump. We bet god, this

(01:14:43):
is the time when I need aproducer, because I would have ribbed my
producer and said, hey, getme an audio cut of crickets, because
the crickets were playing under the fouryears of Trump. But of course I
don't have a producer, and that'snot what you heard. And I don't
even have the sound effect to makethat joke. Okay, so it's not
up right now. And then Putininvaded Ukraine under Biden's watch, right now.

(01:15:04):
So what do these people have incommon? And why, for example,
is Bush in there? Because Bush, basically, let's see, exploded
government, exploded, bureaucracy, explodedspending and never met a demoret that he

(01:15:24):
didn't hug and kiss on the cheek. Or maybe that was merely sort of
a subtle effort to determine if MichelleMabel had pneumatic breasticles or not. Only
he knows for certain about that,but the exception being President Trump, who
was called Putin's poodle for a whileby left us the omb orange man bead

(01:15:45):
and the guy with I called thedead orange cat on his head he turned
as Liney and I discussed last weeka bunch of Russian advisors in Syria into
wafting molecules and dust when he launchedfifty nine Tomahawk missiles in twenty seventeen into
Syria. And then, of course, because it was Russia Trump Trump,

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Russia, Russia Trump, Trump TrumpTrump Russia twenty four to seven on CNN,
MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, ABC forgot ABC, then there
was, of course, back intwenty sixteen that FBI finds no clear link
between Trump and Russia. So saida report, and then it later was

(01:16:29):
emphasized under Mueller in his report noclear indicators, And I said back in
twenty seventeen, early twenty seventeen,and nobody believed me except Lonnie and perhaps
Mike, except I wasn't speaking toMike at the time because I didn't know
him. What this was was asoft coup against a presidential nominee, a

(01:16:54):
president elect, and now we knowfor sure a sitting resident because then this
story came out on February the twelfthof twenty two. Clinton campaign paid to
infiltrate Trump Tower White House servers tolink Trump to putin Durham fines. And
essentially what they're saying is Durham hasmore, Durham knows more, and for

(01:17:25):
those of you, including myself,for a while said Durham's not going to
do anything, We're not going toget anything out of him. I've kind
of had to rescale my thoughts aboutDurham because now there's information indicating that this
may be going someplace else, involvingother people. Lonnie Poindexter, anything that

(01:17:49):
you have heard in that regard withregarding Durham, and nothing in addition other
than at some point and I'll useTrump as an example. He could have
done anything else other than throw hishat in the ring to run for president.

(01:18:16):
He did so. And you know, and and Trump wasn't wasn't a
Republican. I mean, I knowhe donated to both sides. Yeah,
both sides. And you know,folks would say he was more democratic.
He was a businessman, and sothose business decisions he was making depending on
the candidates that he threw money at. But the thing that rang true for

(01:18:41):
me is that his love for America. I didn't doubt that ever, exactly,
And that was key. And Iwatched his children and his sons and
daughters, and particularly particularly his daughters, because they all spoke favorably of him.

(01:19:05):
And I have sisters, and onething I know about girls is if
they ain't happy with daddy, they'lltell everybody. They'll throw him up under
the bus and back up two orthree times. So what I'm saying with
Durham is is, at some point, you gotta think something gets stirred in
somebody and they say, I lovethis country enough to push this particular issue.

(01:19:30):
And what we find, in spiteof the heat, I'm gonna catch
for doing it because you know,most folks, I'd rather be doing something
else. I don't want to bein the line of fire. And I
think with the Durham incident, whatit's doing is at least I hope and
I pray that it stirred something upwhere individuals want to rise up and speak
the truth in a way I thinkwe're seeing that as I hope people realize

(01:19:56):
the purpose of my show is pushback and to let people understand that there's
a lot more going on than themedia, what I call the American media
maggots would let you know or wantyou to hear, or as we indicated
earlier, they bury the lead,or they just don't cover the damn topic
at all. And the other thingis, there's a lot of terrible stuff

(01:20:19):
here, and I'm fearing there's alot of terrible stuff coming to which we
may or may not get to tonight, which makes it a show for another
day. In any event, goodstuff is occurring despite all the bad stuff,
and that's why I have happy stories, and that's why I hope that

(01:20:41):
people are listening and want to listenbecause it ain't always Ain't it awful?
Okay, it's awful, but there'ssomething coming that I've been sensing and seeing
and thoughts or visions on that linePointdexter, Yeah, I want to throw

(01:21:05):
the mic to Mike Okay and gethis thoughts. What do you see as
it relates to Durham? Michael Well, I think I think the thing with
Durham is that it was always goingto be a slow investigation because that's his
style. That's always been his style. He's very he's very, very methodical.

(01:21:30):
You know. So if he isgetting indictments based upon what I've read
about him, he's got you.He isn't he isn't a show voter.
So I think there will be moreto come. I think that there will
be. You know, the realityis and and this is the part that

(01:21:57):
people have to stop and think aboutat some point in time and let reality
sink in. And that is there'sno way that spine on the opposing parties.
You know, nominee for president doesn'tgo to the highest office in the

(01:22:17):
United States or approval. There's noway. That's an exquisite point because say
what you will about Barack Husein Obama, I didn't give a shit. As
everybody knows, whether what is melanand count was what I disagreed with were
his policies. Now what he isas an individual or a father, how

(01:22:39):
he treats his kids, that's noteven up for discussion. As far as
I'm concerned. His policies were thethings that were execrable. But you cannot
tell me, any individual cannot tellme that Barack Hussein Obama isn't as smart
as a whip, because I believehe truly is. It becomes an if

(01:23:00):
an equation. It becomes if he'sas smart as a whip, then can
or would anyone believe he didn't knowwhat was going on? I don't believe
that for a second. Well,it was actually discussed in a in a
meeting there in the Oval Office atone point in time, based upon others

(01:23:21):
testimonies related to that, and Bidenwas in the room, so was President
Obama. I think the I thinkthe thing that is most interesting to me,
and you were talking about Trump andReagan. Honestly, the American progressive
movement. If we go back throughhistory, the American progressive movement has been

(01:23:43):
around for a little over one hundredyears. It started with Woodrow Wilson and
Teddy Roosevelt with their belief that manwas not intelligent enough to run their own
affairs and government needed to step in. So it was Teddy Roosevelt, Republican,
that started the American progressive movement.And I believe that the last century

(01:24:08):
was defined by this American progressive movementthat has given us President Obama, John
McCain, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, the Bushes go down through history.
I believe there have only been reallythree constitutional presidents in the last one hundred

(01:24:28):
years, starting with Calvin Coolidge,Ronald Reagan, and surprisingly to me,
was President Trump. If I couldthrot this as well, because I'm not
sure that President Trump was completely familiarwith the Constitution, and maybe that sounds
like a bad thing to say,but I will say this about Trump.
He sensed innately what was right andwrong, what was proper and what was

(01:24:55):
improper. He was a surprise tome. He wasn't my choice. My
choice was Ted Cruz Bingo exactly.Ted was my guy until I started,
you know, I because you know, I fully expected President Trump to flip

(01:25:18):
at some point in time when thegoing got hard, he would do what
Schwarzenegger did here in California and switchand become very Democrats. And yeah,
I mean because after all, he'sbeen a registered Democrat for forty years,
his children were registered Democrats when they'redead, was elected president. So you

(01:25:42):
know, you've got to the dynamicsof this are really interesting in it if
we're looking at Ukraine, I thinkthe other thing that you got to look
at in all of this, thebiggest part of war is deception. And
what we're seeing with Putin is justa blunt force being used. So what's

(01:26:08):
going on in the other hand,what because command and control have not been
cut. Power is still in place. You know, there's still money flowing,
things are getting in. He doesn'tcontrol the skies yet, so why

(01:26:30):
because first thing you do is yougo in, you cut power, you
cut water and services, you cutcommunications. None of that's been done and
why And the air force hasn't Hisair force hasn't been used. There are
massive issues that I want to getinto. I hope I can get into

(01:26:51):
them tonight. With the tactics andthe things that we're seeing and everybody making
a big deal about the cun boy. I think the convoy's a big deal,
but not in the way that alot of people are thinking about.
I want to go back to Trumpjust for a second, because I'm actually
going somewhere with all of this,and we will get to Mike Fitzpatrick with

(01:27:14):
cybersecurity, because there's a ton ofarticles that I want to go over with
him. Regarding that, Tucker Carlsonhad a guy named Lee Smith on his
show earlier this week. If I'mnot mistaken, and if you remember,
Trump at the very beginning in twentysixteen, said that he was wired tapped.
Now, in terms of specific accuracy, was he wired tap, well,

(01:27:40):
you would call it surveillance. Therewas a time when people would have
butt sets, climb on poles andphysically pull out a couple of crocodile leads
and tap into phones to hear information. He just didn't have the lexicon correct.
But it turns out that he wouldabsolutely correct about this. This is

(01:28:00):
Tucker Carlson with Lee Smith talking aboutwhat this actually means. Sore hasn't take
up the story, partly because itseemed on the surface so complicated, But
when you dig in a little bit, it's not so complicated. They were
spying on Trump as a candidate andas the President of the United States from
the White House. Why is thisnot the biggest story of the year.

(01:28:23):
Right, it's an enormous national securityscandal. I hear people comparing it to
Watergate, and that does not compareto Watergate at all. What we're talking
about when we talk about the executiveoffice of the President is this is something.
By the way, either anytime thatyou, Lonnie or Mike want to
stop and comment on anything of that, just tell me to stop. One

(01:28:44):
of the most secure communications that wehave in the United States. And the
fact that the that these were beingtapped, the idea that these were under
surveillance. We know certainly the DNSsystems, and it may be more data
as well, we don't know thatyet. Idea that the Oval Office and
other important offices in the White Housewere under surveillance by political operatives is extraordinary.

(01:29:08):
It's shocking, and I'm talking topeople who were investigating this on the
Hill for several years and they're shocked. Well, it's what you would envision
Putin doing to his opposition, becauseif he didn't make them go dead,
then he would certainly at minimum bedoing this. Because I think you described
it precisely right. It's more thana political store. It's a national security

(01:29:28):
story and The irony here is HillaryClinton shrieks about hacking servers and Russia's spying
on the DNC when people acting inher behalf are literally spying on the President
the United States in the White House. So like, if she can do
it, why can't everyone do it? Okay, go ahead, Mike,
Okay, a couple of things asfar as the servers and Hillary, and

(01:29:54):
it is interesting. What is interestingto me as a cybersecurity person and not
from a political perspective, is thefact that the FBI, who investigates intrusions
into systems all over the nation,was not allowed to do the forensics on

(01:30:16):
the DNC servers, did or takethem as evidence. The crime scene was
not secured. Now, when wedo forensics, there's a chain of custody
that has to be followed with wherethe evidence goes, how it was collected,

(01:30:41):
all the steps in an investigation thatwas outsourced to And this is where
it gets interesting for me. Andagain, these are just data points,
but it got outsourced to CrowdStrike,which is a highly respected cybersecurity firm,
to do the forensics investigation. That'snot their core competency. It turns out,

(01:31:12):
reading another book and I've recommended thisbook several times as a book on
cyber warfare called Sandworm, Sandworm,and sandworm is being used in this fight
right now, except that's sandworm twopoint zero. Sandworm is malware that has

(01:31:32):
been used by the Russians to bringdown the power grids, specifically in Ukraine
in the past. The CTO forCrowdStrike, it's brought up in this book.
The CTO of CrowdStrike is Ukrainian andhas ties to wait for it,

(01:32:00):
wait for it, okay, parisma, no get out, Yes, imagine
one. If you want a reallyinteresting cyber warfare book that is completely understandable
even for those not in the space, not in the business. Sandworm is

(01:32:25):
a great read and it's all fact. You mean, even a techno lightite
look like me could open the pagesof that book and even grock some of
their concepts. It is. Itis a compelling story that is all laid
out in It's all facts laid outthrough several different cyber attacks through Estonia through

(01:32:50):
through Ukraine, not once, butthree or four different times. The one
real clear takeaway out of this bookon cyber warfare is that Ukraine is a
ping pong ball and I'm going tobe nice about. It is a ping

(01:33:10):
pong ball between Russia and the UnitedStates. Both countries are manipulating Ukraine one
way or the other. That's avery interesting point because a lot of people
are saying that, you know,Ukraine is a democracy, Ukraine is a

(01:33:31):
republic. That's what the leftists aretelling you. Ukraine is not a democracy
or a republic. Is a unitarystate where all the power rests with the
government. It was a client state, for example, of the USSR until
nineteen ninety one. And it's partners, it's parties. It has parties in

(01:33:55):
Ukraine. Okay, not the Russianvodka kind, but the parties are a
socialist and Marxist Leninist. The truthabout Ukraine, Mike Fitzpatrick, you just
hit on and it's this. Itisn't. It's an interesting dynamic, especially
from a cybersecurity standpoint. The dotsthat are there, the connectivity is there.

(01:34:20):
I mean, I argued that youknow several posts back in those days,
you know, they've you know,Tomy came out and said, well,
there was no intent well setting upa server. There's regulation within the
federal government called FISMA and fed BRAMPand you know there's all kinds of cybersecurity

(01:34:42):
regulations. And for the Secretary ofState Hillary Clinton to set up a server
outside of the control or certification froma cybersecurity standpoint, outside the control of
the federal government and the people thatmake sure that that data is secure,

(01:35:05):
is intent to circumvent. It's aviolation of the highest order. I worked
for the federal system. I knowall the USC codes, the United States
codes. They were quoted by Komyand he said that she didn't have the
intent to X, Y and Z. Those crimes were not crimes of specific

(01:35:26):
intent. They were crimes of generalintent. So Komy lied to our faces,
lied directly to our faces in twentysixteen. And I'm not stupid.
I know the difference between all ofthose things and everything subsequently issued from the
open mouth of Komy. I knewfrom that point on was going to be

(01:35:50):
a lie. The whole thing isreally interesting when you look at and again
we also forget that the Obama administration, according to several reporters, spine on
several reporters. Yes, trying asI'm as I'm setting here and talking to

(01:36:16):
you, there's one report, isit Laura Lerner or she actually found somebody.
She went to turn on her laptop, pops the screen open and her
mouth is moving and files are beingopened up. Okay, I believe it.

(01:36:39):
And you can remote any computer ifyou know how, and clearly that
was an individual that that knew howto do precisely that. But see,
I think that the thing that peopledon't realize about Ukraine is Okay, yeah,
it's a recently created country, spawnedfrom the dissolution of the USSR.

(01:37:00):
Okay, I get all that.But the truth is that Ukraine has been
the wild West of the wild East. And so if you if you had
the right connections, if you hadthe money and the power and sufficient influence,
uh, that corruption corruption in thatstate, new no bounds transactions were

(01:37:30):
conducted there that enriched the Biden crimefamily, the Clinton crime family. Uh
in just two ready examples. Andthat makes me definitely want to play this
because everyone will remember this, thisis Joe Biden bragging. Now what is

(01:37:55):
Joe Biden bragging about. Let's let'slisten. By the way, Prosecutor General
Victor Schoken, in a ramp upto this, in his investigation of corruption
involving beris Ma holdings, you mentionedthat already Mike Fitzpatrick, and I know,
I get it. This stuff getsa little inside baseball. It's a
natural gas company and they identified HunterBiden as the recipient of over three million

(01:38:24):
dollars from the country. This isa setup for this so that you know
what's going on in reference. Soessentially, not wanting this corruption exposed involving
his son, Joe Biden, thenvice president, decided that he was going
to intervene and he was going touse and did use loan US loan guarantees

(01:38:53):
as hostage while he demanded that theguy that was going to be prosecuting his
son, a guy named Skokan,be fired. So on video is Joe
Biden bragging about his actions getting Skokenwho was going to prosecute his son in

(01:39:16):
Ukraine for corruption. Joe Biden threatensSkoken to have him removed in Ukraine.
It's on video and he brags aboutit. What great fun. So this,
by the way, this is onthe internet and anybody who wants to
go find it can go find it. Here we go. I remember going

(01:39:39):
over convincing our team or brothers toconvincing that we should be providing for loan
guarantees now went over, I guessthe twelve thirteenth time to Kiev, and
I was supposed to announce that there'sanother bit. I'm sorry this is so
low, but it's the best Icould do. Billion dollar loan guarantee.

(01:40:00):
And I had gotten a commitment fromPoorshenko and from yatsun Yuk that they would
take action against the state prosecutor.And they didn't. So they said they
had They were walking out to presscompt I said no, I said,
I'm not going to or we're notgoing to give you the billion dollars.
They said, you have no authority, you're not the president. The president
said, I said, call him. I said, I'm telling you're not

(01:40:23):
getting a billion dollars. I said, you're not getting the billion, and
I'm gonna be leaving here. AndI think it was what six hours.
I look at I Said'm leaving thesix hours. If the prosecutor's not fired,
you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch got fired,
and they put in place someone whowas solid. Okay, what Joe
Biden means by someone who is solid, I speak leftist, So I'll translate

(01:40:45):
what that means is somebody that wouldn'tprosecute his son Hunter Biden for corruption,
absolutely for corruption. Well let's let'slet's move over here a little bit.
Let's let's talk now if we can, Mike Fitzpatrick. Well, hell,

(01:41:10):
let's even go back a little bitfurther back. In early twenty one,
the Colonial Pipeline was hacked and itwas claimed by a Russian group called Darkside.
That spurred an emergency order from theWhite House. And dark Side was

(01:41:32):
a ransomware group, and they releaseda statement saying that they are apolitical and
it didn't mean to cause widespread destructionthe Colonial Pipeline hack. Mike Fitzpatrick,
do you have any insider information aboutthat? It is interesting We actually did

(01:41:53):
a podcast on this. One ofmy friends is foremost authority in the world,
world really on cybersecurity and what arecalled industrial control systems or skata systems,
which are the mechanical systems that runpipelines that run everything from you know,

(01:42:15):
the pipelines that we're talking about toelevators in a building to roller coasters
at Disneyland, and the systems thatpump your water and run your power grid
are mechanical. They're not digital,right, and so like a lot of
people. As I went through andread the early accounts of the story,

(01:42:39):
I thought it was, you know, this was a pipeline hack. They
were able to utilize the PLC password, which is all hard coded, and
I mean, they're all known.But after talking to Joe, and Joe
actually thought that same thing as Idid, that this was the actual pipeline,
but it was it was the computerswithin the business office that were exposed

(01:43:06):
to a ransomware attack. What happenedis the spreadsheet that was needed, as
I understand it from Joe, thespreadsheet that was needed to determine what fuel
was in what pipeline was encrypted andthey weren't able to get to it.
So and I asked him, Isaid, I'm going, okay, so

(01:43:29):
why is that? He goes Hesays, well, okay, So if
you've got regular unletted running down onepipeline as an example, and then you
go to push and you make amistake and you push jet fuel down the
same pipeline, you could have areal problem. And the other side of
this is they weren't able to build. So those were the two business unit

(01:43:55):
issues. Wasn't the mechanics of thepipeline They didn't attack the pipeline, pipeline
function, the business unit being ableto determine what was what fuel was in
what pipe was one issue. Theother issue is they weren't able to build
for it because the systems were lockeddown. Then Mike Fitzpatrick would have that

(01:44:16):
story been crafted in this way becausethe story that I'm reading is from What
the hell is this NBC? Itsays the Colonial Pipeline, responsible for the
country's largest fuel pipeline, shut downall its operations Friday after hackers broke into
some of its networks. Would thestories have been crafted in that fashion so

(01:44:39):
that people didn't know more about howit all went down? Well, I
mean quite frankly, reporters don't understandcybersecurity to begin with. Okay, all
right, clouds are parting, gotit? Yep? I mean you're giving

(01:44:59):
these you're giving reporter way more creditthan they deserve. Okay, Yeah,
shame on me, din it Jim. Here's here's another sory, Mike Fitzpatrick,
And this is sort of a big, broader umbrella type story. Putin
has been saying, essentially for quitesome time since the invasion on the twenty

(01:45:21):
second, that we will pay aprice for basically doing anything against him.
Then from CNBC, there's the headlineon this story, Global hacking group Anonymous
launches cyber war against Russia. FollowingRussia's invasion of Ukraine. A Twitter post

(01:45:42):
from an account named Anonymous summoned hackersaround the world to target Russia. Subsequent
posts claimed the group was responsible forpulling down websites of the Russian oil giant
gaz Prom, whom we have spokenhere a couple of times tonight, the
state controlled Russian news agency RT andnumerous other Russian and Belarusian government agencies attracting

(01:46:03):
the ire of online hackers. Isyet another example of how global players,
from NATO powers to international business andevery day consumers are protesting Russia's invasion of
Ukraine. Any potential insight Mike Fitzpatrickof Anonymous kind of going against Russia?

(01:46:23):
Now, well, it's interesting.You know, Anonymous has really earned their
bars through the years, but Anonymoushas been kind of quiet for the last
several years. So I saw thatpost when it originally came up, and
it's interesting, and they brought downsome websites and they made things challenging for

(01:46:45):
a little bit. It is whatis more interesting to me is that Zolensky
is actually trying to assemble hackers fromaround the world to be that cyber army
to go after Russia. They can'tget the jets in the air, and

(01:47:09):
they can't get the planes off theground, but they're going to try to
launch and utilize talented people that theyhave there that are supporting their cause against
Russia. Now the United States,when it comes to the power grid,
folks, there's no way to sugarcoatthis. It's some of the worst security

(01:47:34):
I've ever seen. And so Imean the discussion that I'm hearing in the
different things that I'm reading is oneof in order to be defensive, we
will have to be offensive, andit will be going after actors in such

(01:47:57):
a way that has never been donebefore, with tools that have never been
used in that capacity before. Okay, if we could pause here just for
a second. I didn't know mybottom of the hour break, and I
just want to remind everybody of thisfor right now. Conservative media done right.
You're listening to the SHR Media network, And I also have three minutes

(01:48:23):
of audio that I'd like to play, and I think it's important that we
hear. This is just a sectionout of a recent broadcast, but I
like to play this in terms ofthe information that's contained within. From CBS
Evening News, I think this isNora O'Donnell who introduces this and then the
topic that goes on for three minutes, and then to come back and re

(01:48:45):
examine what she addresses, because Ifind the timing of this very interesting because
when you assemble a news show,it takes you more than just a day
or two if you go into adeep, like six minutes dive on things.
And the timing of this, I'mcurious about the timing of well.

(01:49:08):
Tonight, the nation's intelligence agencies arewarning of cyber threats from Russia and are
urging US critical infrastructure defenses to bereinforced. As CBS is Bill Whitaker reported
on Sunday Night sixty Minutes, itwouldn't take much to throw the entire country
into darkness. The grid is asprawling target. There are actually three in

(01:49:29):
the US, the eastern Western andTexas has its own. Most of us
rarely notice substations. There are fiftyfive thousand across the country, each housing
transformers. The workhourses of the gridinside these massive metal boxes raw electricity is
converted to higher or lower voltages.Should a transformer explode, like this one

(01:49:57):
in Manhattan during Superstorm Sandy. Thesystem is designed to trigger a localized grid
preserving blackout, but if several sectionsof the grid go down at the same
time, the shutdowns can cascade likedominoes. That's what set off the Great
Northeast Blackout in two thousand and three, leaving forty five million Americans without power.

(01:50:23):
A few months before the assault onMetcalf, John Wellinghoff of FERK commissioned
a study to see if a physicalattack on critical transformers could trigger cascading blackouts.
It was actually a very shocking resultto us that there's a very few
number of substations you need to takeout in the entire United States to knock

(01:50:44):
out the entire grid. Knock outthe entire grid, that's correct. How
many would it take to knockout puttingthe entire country in a blackout? Or
less than twenty? And Bill Whitakerjoins US now, so bild just twenty
substations to knock out the entire system. I mean, that's unbelievable. But
your reporting is it could be evenless than that. That's right, Nora.
That report was from twenty thirteen,and it actually found the number was

(01:51:06):
even lower. Nine taking out justnine critical substations could black out the whole
country. We were told by multiplesources that the number has not changed much,
that less than twenty is a fairassessment. Well, what can the
government do or anybody do about this? Spend money, and spend it on
two things. One to increase thecapacity of these high powered transmission lines,

(01:51:29):
so you decrease their vulnerability to largescale blackouts. That's already happening through the
administration's new infrastructure build And two investin better security. But that's not happening
right now. Remember, the country'sthree thousand power companies are in the business
of selling electricity, not national security. And this last point is really important
because the threat is real. Justlast week, three white supremacists pleaded guilty

(01:51:56):
to plotting to attack power grids throughoutthe country and they had a plan to
hit critical substations simultaneously to cause amassive blackout. Quite scary. Bill Whitaker,
thank you before you go. Sothat's that's true, that's what's going
on today. This isn't something thatCBS is pulling out of their butt and

(01:52:19):
they echo, Mike Fitzpatrick, whatyou just said. But it also and
I was just going to say this, and that is I love the fact
that they wind it up with whitesupremacists but mentioned nothing about Russia or China,
right, who have been mapping ourpower grid for the better part of

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the last fifteen years. The Chinesehave actually gone through and have literally mapped
every network in this country over thelast fifteen years, regardless of what business,
what the business does, so what. And I guess it was probably,
I want to say, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, somewhere in that

(01:53:02):
neighborhood there were actually what appeared tobe test runs on power substations, one
in California and one in Tennessee asfar as trying to create a disruption.
In California, they were using thirtyodd six rifles shoot in shoot into the

(01:53:29):
substation. And then in Tennessee.I want to say, I can't remember
exactly what that was, but Imean back in the early two thousand area,
and Lonnie, you know, wewere both here in southern California at
the time. There was a treethat fell on a substation up in British
Columbia and took out the west coastof the United States for the better part

(01:53:53):
of what was it Wanni two dayscertainly did so. I mean, and
you heard her say there's three thousandpower companies. Would you guys like to
guess at how many of these powercompanies have actually conducted a cybersecurity assessment?
I would say most of them?No, okay? Was was that Lonnie?

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Or bs? That was? Thatwas Lonnie? All right? Some
basy what's your guest. I'm innatelysort of a not a positivist, so
i'd see I'd say the bulk ofthem haven't. The correct answer is only
two of them have. Oh mygod, out of how many three thousand?

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Oh? Okay, but that's notthat's not Mike Fitzpatrick assigning a number.
That's from Joe Weiss, the foremostauthority in the world that actually conducts
those types of assessments. Okay,but this stuff has been in our face
directly, and I refer to anan article from Asia dot ney k dot

(01:55:00):
com. This just happened yesterday,and I saw it wasn't given great coverage,
But I think this is a hugeindicator as to what in our future.
Just in Taiwan hit by a widespreadpower outage affecting Taipei, the capital,
and Kao shung the second largest cityin Taiwan. So in Taiwan,

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Comma, Mike Fitzpatrick, who doyou think the bad actor on that might
have been Russia? Let's go withRussia. No, right, I'll take
Russia for a thousand BIFs. Butbut you know, going back to the
time that that Russia rolled into thenation of Georgia, their first for a

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in was a cyber attack on thepower grid, bringing the power grid down.
I go back to Ukraine. Whyis the power grids still up?
Why is commanding controls still in place? There's things about this that don't make
sense. Okay again, what isthe deception? What are we not seeing?

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I know what we are seeing,and I know what they're pointing the
lens at. What are we notseeing? Another reason that I am extremely
glad that I had you on tonight. I always like to have Lonnie because
Lonnie is a voice of common sense. But neither he nor I can duplicate
the requisite education and experience of whatit is that you do for a living,

(01:56:42):
and the stories that you have toldhere and regaled before us numerous times
are astounding in terms of people,despite everything that's occurred, still don't get
it yet, and three thousand agencieswho likely don't talk to each each other
much, if at all, althoughthere may be an overarching federal agency that

(01:57:04):
has some kind of control over allof these guys, and no one has
said to them something similar to look, stop with all the petiass bullshit and
get down to let's make everything safe. Huh, guys, can we do
that? Because when the electric gridgoes down, especially in twenty twenty two,

(01:57:27):
every damn thing stops. But youbring up a very interesting point,
Mike Fitzpatrick. Why hasn't Russia orRussian because I'm sure Putin has at his
behest any number of Russian ransomware gangsyou bet at their beck and call who

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can threaten countries that want to punishMoscow for the Ukraine invasion? So,
like you pose it, why haven'twe seen that? Why does Ukraine still
have power unless somebody has gone upand just dropped a big old bomb down
on somebody's transformer. Again, there'syou know, you have to look at

(01:58:18):
what was it? There was Iwant to say it was probably five years
ago there was a quote unquote anattack out of North Korea on the White
House or the Office of OMB orsomething like that. So you had this
distraction over here on one hand,but where they went in was on the

(01:58:40):
back side of that. So againdeception, sunsu art a war, right,
same deal. So where's the what'sthe distraction? What are we not
seeing? That's my point exactly,And that's I don't remember. Maybe Lonnie,

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you remember who said this, Thefirst casualty in any war is truth.
So I have to maybe that's aSun Soue, But I have to
say, quite frankly, I don'tbelieve what's coming out of Russia. I
don't believe what's coming out of Ukraine, and I don't believe what's coming out
of DC in the United States.I think we're getting little teeny kernels of

(01:59:27):
the truth every now and then whensomebody decides to drop one, or they
were stupid and it just got outin the first place. So Russia,
having not utilized all the ransomware hackersthey possibly could muster, Mike Fitzpatrick,

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couldn't Russia, if they wanted,have turned all of Ukraine upside down.
Electrically by now sure simply with theirmilitary without even going to the to the
external talent that is available. Imean, there's some incredibly intelligent people there.

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But again, there are some ofthese folks. And I'm sitting here
watching a video even on my screenof a protest in Saint Petersburg tonight.
There's there's the town square is fullpeople coming out against this thing. So
there's going to be eventually there willbe some of these actors within Russia that

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as I said before, all ofthese actors have a line. They have
a line of some kind that ifsomebody crosses it, they find offense to
it. And that's what guides them. And so it's going to be interesting

(02:00:58):
to see how the longer this goeson, how this plays out. Okay,
So essentially what you're saying, MikeFitzpatrick is that this, in terms
of individuals or groups who are actingtogether, is essentially a case by case
basis. I haven't I haven't seenwhat I thought I would see yet.
Okay, first, okay, great, ah, God, I got so

(02:01:21):
many questions. Lonnie's getting tired.I'm going to play a promo. I'm
going to play a promo. Letme ask you this first. Mike,
can you hang over the break?Sureka, can you hang over the break?

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Okay, that's a yes from Lennie. Okay, let me play this.
We'll be right back, And whenI come back, I want to
ask Mike Fitzpatrick what the potentiality isand what the reality might be of hacking,
because I think the first thing upforbid is going to be the power
grid. And I couldn't think ofanybody better here tonight than Lonnie and Mike

(02:02:10):
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being plied with alcohol and other thingstonight, but we are being played on
Spreaker tonight and the conclusion of theshow, I'll put out the show in
social media. So, Mike Fitzpatrick, I have to say that Spreaker or
Frontier has not yet screwed with meonce, although now that I've mentioned it,

(02:05:15):
something will probably happen, But sofar, at this point, it
looks it will be. It lookslike it will be a one point a
one piece, contiguous show, uninterruptedby down internet lines from Frontier. Holy
Mother of God, thank you verymuch, Lord, I appreciate your consideration.

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That's probably because Frontier is skewed toMichael, you know, or that
could be yeah, he's one ofthose security geeks. Well, it could
could just be that Mike pays ahafty internet bill here at the house for
the two gigs that's coming in.Well, it's funny you should mention that.
I can go into prices later,but in terms of pricing for this

(02:06:05):
area, through Frontier, we havethe highest tier of paid freight for what
we're not getting. In other words, we're promised X, but we're given
tin cans, stone knives, bearskins, piano wire and chewing gum courtesy

(02:06:25):
of Frontier Communications and Comma and smokesignals. Yeah, yeah, oh it's
smoke signal. That's good. Good. And this is this is the efficacy
of Frontier smoke signals. You can'tsee them at night, Comma Frontier Kenya.
And the answer is no, youcan't all infra red so that you
know they're able to track it thatway. But you know the it's it's

(02:06:48):
an interesting old story. The townthat I live in was in a co
down area in between two central officeshere in California, right and ten miles
on either side of no man's land. So where the sphere of influence for
each of these central offices ended wasten miles either side of our town,

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and so city councilmen and we weretrying to get to where we could bring
in broadbands into our town. Whatwas that two thousand and four, two
thousand and five, he asked me. He said, well, how can
we make that a utility in town? So I actually designed a fully meshed

(02:07:36):
Wi Fi network, utilizing the hillsaround town being the signals to where you
walk around anywhere in the valley andbe connected. Well, if Verizon got
word of this and made our littletown, middle of p dunk nowhere the
first town in the country to havefiber to every door because they didn't want

(02:07:59):
cities to figure out that they couldbecome their own utility for Internet. Okay,
So everyone who's listening within the soundof our voices, if you want,
you can install your own fibernet thenand bypass the biggies. Is that
what you're saying, Mike Fitzpatrick,huh huh. No, I'm saying that

(02:08:22):
the city had an opportunity to changetheir charter become their own utility like they
do for water and other things,right, but do it for the Internet.
But you can't do it anymore,or can you do it anymore.
I think you probably could. Andagain, what we were going to use

(02:08:43):
was was line a site Wi Fiand it wasn't going to be it wasn't
going to be fiber to the door. But once Verizon got word of this,
now Verizon became frontier. Once Horizongot word of this, uh,
they didn't want to going anywhere else, and they they kicked out Huntington Beach

(02:09:05):
being first and made us first,oh kay, because they did not want
the cities realizing that they could createa profit center off of the Internet in
the city that that that uh Michael'sspeaking of and at the time a chuckle

(02:09:26):
to call it a city. Theystill had hitching posts for the horses,
if I remember correctly, Uh yeah, pretty close. But it it It
would have been a differentiator for thefor the for this for the community and
really put it on the map,you know, if the city was able

(02:09:46):
to But they moved so caught.I remember you were working on that mic,
but they moved so cotton picking slow, and you know, and you
said that the big entities got involvedand made it a moot point. But
man, that would have been socool if that had happened. But it
became loney. It became a negotiationpoint. Okay, what do you mean.

(02:10:09):
Well, okay, so my friendwas elected city council. Right.
It took the idea and then wentafter Verizon with it, and then Verizon
said, oh no, we don'twant you doing that. So what do
we have to do to make thisidea go away? Gotcha? Oh?
Okay, a little cash under thetable, so to speak. No,

(02:10:31):
it was bringing the service into thecity. No cash, no under No,
it was they did not want theidea going anywhere else in any other
city to where it would take revenueaway from them. Okay, you guys
can have it, but the restof you guys need to remain ignorant.

(02:10:52):
Well, you know, it kindof works that way sometimes. I did
not know that Verizon became Frontier orthat Frontier purchased Verizon. I had no
idea. I thought Verizon was thislittle unit by itself and apparently not.
No, no, Verizon. Ilove this part because I've got friends that
worked at Verizon and they became Frontier. So Verizon sells the service, the

(02:11:20):
FIO service and all of it.What was Verizon out here on the West
Coast and in Texas and other placesthey sell that to Frontier, Well,
what they didn't sell to them wasthe provisioning software that was needed to make
everything work or set up lines orinstall new service or all of those things.

(02:11:43):
And whoever did the due diligence onFrontier's part just really messed that up
in a major way. Yeah,a little bit, a little bit,
but yeah, So, I mean, technology stories are interesting stories because sometimes
they get glamorized and sometimes they're justplain ugly at the end of the day

(02:12:07):
with the result. But anyway,what we're talking about as far as the
grid is concerned, because you know, honestly, to fix it, I
think everybody would chip in a buckor two on their electric bill to go
specifically for the grid, to shieldit, to make it more secure if

(02:12:30):
you knew and had the confidence thatyour dollar or two or three would go
directly to a fund for that andnot be siphoned off by anyone or everyone
else for another line of extraneous,useless bullshit. And I don't have that
confidence. Do you have that confidence? Lonnie point Exter? Are you kidding?

(02:12:56):
Nearly ten years in DC close andpersonal, and it does jage you
if you let it. No,I don't think well, I was just
gonna say. The thing I wouldtell you guys is think back, go
into the wayback machine and think aboutTrump talking about critical infrastructure and how we

(02:13:22):
need to protect our power grid.He didn't appropriate any dollars for the power
grid. He missed that one.Let me go back a little bit here,
because I teased before the break thatwe talked to Mike Fitzpatrick. I
had two specific questions for him,and that will be on the heels of
this article from Fox Business saying Russialaunching cyber war against the US is the

(02:13:48):
biggest risk for Americans. Harvard economistsays, so, would you say,
Mike Fitzpatrick and Lonnie Poindexter that theUS's biggest risk engaging in Russia engaging if
Russia engaging involving Ukraine? Is thatour biggest risk a cyber attack? Yeah?

(02:14:09):
I would say yeah, because Russiais not what it once was.
You know, during the collapse,They've rebuild infrastructure and so forth. They're
not going to just roll over andplay dad if we apply pressure. But
I do think there's things we cando well. First of all, stop

(02:14:31):
buying their oil. It's a goodstart, and I think that would have
a tremendous impact, and then reestablished the pipeline from Canada would be the
other thing that they could do.I don't know. Should we fear Russia,

(02:14:52):
I'm not certain. I would throwthat back to you two to get
your perspective on it. Well,that's it, Mike Fitzpatrick. Those were
the two critics questions for you.Number one was what's the viability translated to
perhaps the percentile chance of Russia engaginga cyber attack directly against the United States,

(02:15:16):
because it would seem the greatest opportunityfor something like that. I mean,
you could go into the d Dor something, maybe the Pentagon,
but it would seem something that wouldyield the greatest results, the greatest chilling
effect would be an attempt on thegrid. Yeah. I don't see it
being rockets and nuclear stuff. No, I don't see any. So,

(02:15:39):
Mike Fitzpatrick, is is that thegreatest threat? Do you think? I
think cybersecurity is absolutely for us thegreatest risk at this point. You know,
there's the supply chain, which isalready damaged due to the pandemic.

(02:16:03):
You know, the problem is andyou see this, and you see this
in the Lord of the Rings moviewhere the great machines were shut down and
they weren't able to restart them again. So we're kind of dealing with that.
We have you know, the supplychain was a fast and it was
efficient and you could get anything fromanywhere in the world relatively quickly. Now

(02:16:26):
the supply chain is running like youremember your bike when the chain would come
off this brocket and you you know, it would spin and catch and maybe
let go and spin and catch.We're kind of through that phase. If
we're dealing with a normal, healthysupply chain and we lose power and the
power grid goes down, that supplychain and what's in it is going to

(02:16:52):
last for a total of about seventytwo hours. Wow. Yeah, everything's
just in time inventory because we haveno backups, We have no warehouses,
because people in corporations have determined thathaving any kind of a backlog or any
kind of a warehouse or any kindof a stockpile is more expensive than it's
worth. Under times of beautiful piein the sky Unicorn times where everything is

(02:17:20):
perfect and everything is wonderful, Sothey haven't made provisions for issues like that.
Then let me tell you this orask you this, Mike Fitzpatrick.
One of the biggest things that Itook away when I went to go see
Hoover Dam and Lake Mead. Whenyou take the tour, one of the
things that the tour guide told meis that see these huge damn transformers right

(02:17:43):
here that are in the powerhouse.These are made in Germany. Each one
of these weighs multiple tons and isconstructed in Germany, placed on a boat
and shipped over here. And aroundtime for each one of these is about
three years. So then I washearing that an emp or in this case,

(02:18:09):
perhaps a cyber attack if it damagessomehow, these massive transformers at dams
on the Colorado, on the Columbia, wherever they are. We don't make
those the last I checked. They'remade in Germany. Because they are they

(02:18:33):
are critically built, critically measured.They have to be perfect, everything has
to be equal and the same,and they are multiple millions of dollars.
We can't afford to lose those.We don't make anything anymore. When you
think about it, talk about supplychain, you know, and Michael and

(02:18:56):
you made that reference. We'd bewith the justin time inventory practices that were
developed several years ago. We don'tmake anything, and we already know that
stuff coming from China. And uh, yeah, here's a question. Is

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there anything? I don't think I'veever seen anything that I've purchased at a
store that said made in Russia.Is there anything they're exporting to the United
States other than oil, vodka,caviare that's right? Yeah, you know,
I'm sure there's I'm sure there's severalseveral things, but it's it's not

(02:19:41):
necessarily it's probably not us. Imean, one of the things that I
looked at because I I I getcurious about things when I when I start
reading and and and start diving intosome of this one, I was surprised
that the population of Russia, it'sonly one hundred and forty six million people.

(02:20:03):
Yeah, it's it's less than halfof the United States. And there
their GDP is somewhere around three trillion, which is less than that of California.
So Russia has a couple of realcash crops, and that is oil

(02:20:28):
and natural gas. And if theprice of oil is low, Russia struggles.
If it's high, then they dowell. The thing that we also
have to think about in this andagain We're just talking about systems, right,

(02:20:48):
not systems are They can be usedfor political things, but they're not
political by design. So the bankingsystem here in the United States and in
the West is the banks all exchangemoney over the Swift system. Yes,
that's how all the banks transfer money. So one of the sanctions is or

(02:21:16):
one of the sanctions I guess beingconsidered, is cutting Russia and the Russian
Central Bank out of Swift. There'sjust one problem with that, and that
is you have the brick nations.You guys familiar with the brick nations?
I am Brazil are I don't rememberwhat that is? India, Russia,

(02:21:39):
Russia, India, and China.Yes, they have set up their own
version of Swift and they've backed itall with gold because all of those nations
have been buying gold by the tonseach year for the last ten or twelve
years because they want to be themonetary standard. They want to well,

(02:22:01):
they don't want the dollar to bethe monetary standard, yes, exactly,
So they have built their own Swiftreplacement called SIPs. So China is going
to funnel that money through that.So whatever Russia does, logically, that
money and those transactions should go throughSIPs. There has to be integration between

(02:22:28):
SIPs and swift at some point.Now, maybe it runs through Brazil.
Russia's money runs through Brazil off SIPsand then gets processed on swift. They're
not completely caught out. And that'sso you know this, this gets to
be rather interesting because the mutually assureddestruction now is not via missile. It

(02:22:58):
changed from any from an economist standpointback in the late sixties to be one
of economic destruction. So it's mutuallyself assured economic destruction. It is what
we're playing with. It's all verybyzantine purposely I submit, and it's all

(02:23:18):
very machiavellian purposely I submit. Noteasy to understand, but the major players
got to be that way because theywant to upset the United States Apple card.
And I don't know of any anyother way of putting it than that.

(02:23:41):
No, And you know, again, you know, you've got a
lot of these Davos billionaires quite franklybelieved that the state run economy of China
is the right economic model, andso you know they're they're all in.
I mean, Lannie and I havea mutual friend that has been living in
China, with his wife, whois what she's a farm, a farmer,

(02:24:07):
apartment, big pharma exec as Irecall, And it's interesting. It's
forty five percent across the board intact. Now, sure, you can't you
can't really come out against the government. You couldn't have a conversation like what
you're having here, and you're monitoredwith every inch of your life, and
if they don't like it, theyshut off your phone and your money doesn't

(02:24:30):
work anymore, and you can't participatein society. Oh you mean like Canada,
Well, I mean, you know, it is interesting because the Chinese
military did the cold weather training inCanada. Yes, they did well.
Actually this Trudeau first accepted that andthen it didn't occur. But it didn't
occur for a number of reasons.But Trudeau was one of the people when,

(02:24:56):
upon solicitation, said sure, comeone, come on, come on
over, no problem, because wegot great snow for you guys. But
already so blowing up the skirts ofChina. I could have said something else,
but I decided that I was goingto keep it. Even though this
is a late night show. Whatthe hell I wrote this down? But

(02:25:16):
BZ, I mean, the thingis a lot of this is all perpetrated
on or we're dealing with. However, they focus the lens of the camera
right, whatever narrative wants to bewritten. So what I'm trying to,
you know, what I'm talking tomy friends and looking at the field at

(02:25:39):
play is step back a little bit, expands your view of it, yes,
and try to see what you're notseeing or what you're not being shown.
And that's why I say you haveto expand your focus, expand your
engagement, step back and take moreof a larger umbrella view of everything that's

(02:26:01):
going on. Because I don't believein coinky dink anymore. I really don't.
No, there is no such thing. There is a quote that I
wrote down. Now, Lonnie Poindexter, you say that you write shit down
when you're talking on the show.I did that last week, you did.
I know, you bring a lotof data and folks. His desk

(02:26:22):
is just loaded with paperwork for stuffthat these researched, So you do write
stuff down to I do. Andhere's one of the things that I wrote
down. It's a quote last weekfrom Lonnie Poindexter who said, evil strong
men respect a strong man. Andwhat we're seeing today is the result of

(02:26:45):
that. Now I have four minutesthat I said I was going to play
of something that clearly indicates why acertain set of circumstances did not occur from
roughly twenty sixteen to twenty two.To me, this is glorious because these
assholes have never been talked to likethis before. Ever. It's very sad

(02:27:11):
when Germany makes a massive oil andgas deal with Russia, where you're supposed
to be guarding against Russia, andGermany goes out and pays billions and billions
of dollars a year to Russia.Okay, stop right there, I have
to insert this. Russia supplies fortypercent of gas to all of Europe,

(02:27:37):
almost all of Europe's gas half almosthalf comes from Russia, which is why
they wanted Nord's dream too. Sowe're protecting Germany, We're protecting France,
We're protecting all of these countries.And then numerous of the countries go out
and make a pipeline deal with Russiawhere it saying billions of dollars into the

(02:28:01):
coffers of Russia. So we're supposedto protect you against Russia, but they're
paying billions of dollars to Russia,and I think that's very inappropriate. And
the former Chancellor of Germany is thehead of the pipeline company that's applying the
gas. Ultimately, Germany will havealmost seventy percent of their country controlled by

(02:28:24):
Russia with natural gas. So youtell me is that appropriate. I've been
I've been complaining about this from thetime I got it, and it should
have never been allowed to have happened. Okay, So to this point,
Initially Germany said that they were notinterested in a swift censure because Russia via
Putin holds the sword of Damocles overall of fucking Europe, not just Germany,

(02:28:50):
but all of Europe. So inthe meantime, Germany took it upon
itself that it was going to gogreen, and it has deactivated any number
of nuclear reac actors and I thinkthey only have three left. Well,
all of Europe, the bulk ofEurope, especially France, embraced nuclear power
for years and years and years,and now led by Germany, Germany has

(02:29:11):
said this is a wonderful time togo green, except it really fucking isn't
a great time to go green.So the new chancellor now just yesterday came
back and said, oh, we'llnot be deactivating any more nuclear reactors.
And by the way, we're goingto be ramping up some nuclear reactors that

(02:29:33):
we may have decommissioned. And oh, by the way, we're going to
go back to coal. We're goingto make it as clean as we can,
but we're going back to coal.And nobody has heard this from the
American media. Maggots. Nobody knowsthis, but Germany not under Markle.

(02:29:54):
I can't think of the new guy'sname begins with an oh. But this
new Chancellor has essentially given the middlefinger to Angela Merkel and said, hey,
sit on it and twirl. I'mnot going to be stupid, especially
in times like these. Now,as my law guy said at SAX State

(02:30:16):
Contrast and Compare, now, here'sthe story that I'm holding in my hot
little hand that Lanni is watching rightnow. Where the Biden administration. This
came out just the day that thisinvasion occurred into Ukraine from Russia. Biden
administration freezes new oil and gas drillingleases after court rules against key climate tool.

(02:30:37):
Well wait a minute, what doesthat be. Everything's in the details
with regard to these guys. TheBiden administration has once again put a pause
on new leases and permits for federaloil and gas drilling. But here's why.
Because they were cut off at theknees by a judge after a federal
judge blocked the administration blocked Biden fromusing a metric that estimates the societal cost

(02:31:03):
of carbon emissions. So because youfederal judge said that I couldn't have my
way, I'm taking all our gasleases and screwing the American citizens and I'm
taking them home. And this iswhat you're dealing with these days. But
Germany is totally controlled by Russia becausethey will getting from sixty to seventy percent

(02:31:26):
of their energy from Russia and anew pipeline. And you tell me if
that's appropriate, because I think it'snot, and I think it's a very
bad thing for NATA and I don'tthink it should have happened, and I
think we have to talk to Germanyabout it. On top of that,
Germany is just paying a little bitover one percent, whereas the United States
in actual numbers, is paying fourpoint two percent. Okay, stop right

(02:31:48):
there. Everybody knows what he's talkingabout. Do you not NATO's initial agreements
indicated that that client countries, whichof which they are I think thirty,
now they must pay two percent oftheir GDP, not a given specific number,
but a certain percentile of their GDPthey were expected to be paying all
along for NATO. Historically speaking,the United States has been footing the bill

(02:32:11):
not just for the UN but alsofor NATO completely and all the other countries
because all the NATO client countries,because they were not held their feet,
were not held to the fire,got away with not spending money and got
used to American largess, meaning thatyou, Lonnie, me bez you,
Mike, we the American taxpayer havebeen footing the bill for Germany and all

(02:32:37):
the other NATO states to do whatthey're doing and not spend money on their
own defense. To me, thatis all of Europe giving us the high
fucking middle finger of fate. Andcan you see Obama cornering anybody in that

(02:32:58):
room or NATO about this issue.No, he'll draw his red line in
the sand. Would Bush have evendared do this? Not? Not the
way I get me started with you, I don't think, but you know,
I mean, the thing is thatquite frankly, This whole thing in

(02:33:18):
Ukraine is a massive wake up callto Europe. It should be. They've
they've become complacent, like everybody,everybody gets soft, everybody gets complacent with
what their threat level is. Wheneverything feels good, and everything feels happy,
and everything's running smooth, no onegives bad things a second thought,

(02:33:43):
right, American human nature and Americannature. Everybody thinks that what happened in
World War Two in the United Statescan't happen again. Oh yes it can,
because history is not taught. GeorgeSantiana was absolutely right. And here's

(02:34:03):
a wonderful example. I'm not goingto go through the rest of the thing
from Trump because now it's ten thirtyand we're gonna have to wrap this up.
Here's Pete but Gig saying, essentially, now he's the transpot secretary,
got a cabinet position. Here's PeteButtgig saying that, you know what,
if we have to, I thinkIranian oil could be on the table.

(02:34:30):
President possibly consider authorizing the Keystone pipeline, working something out with Iran Iran.
I mean, look, the Presidenthas said that all options are on the
table, but we also need tomake sure that we're not galloping after permanent
solutions to immediate short term problems.Where more strategic. Okay, did you

(02:34:54):
just hear what he said? Thissituation is this is a short term price.
Our long term problem needs to begreen energy technologically, of which we're
not there yet. But if wecan't have this will cut the leases.
If we can't have that will givemoney to Iran. From what dimension are

(02:35:22):
these people operating? Lonnie Poindexter paralleluniverse? This isn't This isn't my universe.
It's the World Economic Forum universe.There you go, Michael. They
have a whole nother agenda. Andmister Pete is a graduate of the Young

(02:35:43):
Global Leader he is? Is henot? Mike? And you made me
aware of that? What is that? Mike Fitzpatrick? Can you elucidate upon
that a little bit? From whatI've been able to tell? The World
Economic Forum goes out in the handpicks key leaders from around the world,

(02:36:05):
not only to be prime ministers andchancellors like Angela merk Oleen and other leaders
are Krone in France and others aroundthe world, but those that are up
and coming so they always have afresh crop. Ivanka Trump is also a
graduate of the Young Global Leaders ofthe World Economic Form. So these are

(02:36:31):
the let's say, I would Ibe inaccurate Mike Fitzpatrick and saying that these
are the future. I don't knowGeorge Soros, well, okay, Pierre
or Trudeau in Canada is a graduateof the Young Global Leaders. Yes,
yes he is

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