BZ's Saloon, 10.30.25 Guest NEIL MAMMEN

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Stand the.

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copper mug and it just happens to keep my potato
water really cold. Nastrova, So thanks for being here to everybody, So, folks,
I'd like to welcome a brand new individual to the

(08:52):
show who you I believe will find to be altogether
too engaging, too logical, two factual, too whip smart, too realistic,
too sensical. He's written a bunch of books and I
happen to have I showed it to you already. We're
going to be talking about this one tonight. Here's my

(09:15):
copy that has Look, gee, look at all the things
that I hope we get to but I'm not exactly
sure that we will, but I'll try. I will try anyway.
It's called how to Stop Racism in America, A Real
Solution for African American plight. And he's also a co
founding member of ebl AMM And I know what you're thinking,

(09:37):
did he fire six shots?

Speaker 12 (09:38):
Are only five? Well?

Speaker 10 (09:39):
Being this as a forty four logical show, I'm bringing Neil.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Mammon to you.

Speaker 10 (09:45):
Who is this? Oh you're going to find out who
Neil Mammon is. So if we could, let's get Neil
Mammon into the saloon right now, and I would definitely
like to welcome him here. Neil Mammon, it's great to see.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Hey, Bez. Great to be on the show. Thank you
very much for having me.

Speaker 10 (10:03):
But wait, there's more. There's also Lonnie Poindexter. Now this
is the act down here that you've known for all
these years, and the delio of this is first, I
want to thank Neil for agreeing to be in the
show right here, And as as I said to Neil before,

(10:28):
I fervently be believe this to be true. You need
to get a copy of this book and Neil is
going to explain what e b LM is and I
think you'll be shocked, dismayed, kerfuffled, gobsmacked when you discover
what is this book about. Well, we're going to go
into that.

Speaker 12 (10:48):
What is eb l M.

Speaker 10 (10:50):
It sounds like those people with Patricia culors that go
out and buy mansions. Are they linked to these people?
The answer is no, and so everybody is inexorably linked here.
Neil Mammon is a co creator of e b l M,

(11:11):
which is every Black Black Life Matters, and Lonnie Poindexter
is also, I believe, a board member of that. And Lonnie, again,
thank you very much who suggested you know, I know
this cool cat named Neil Mammon, and he has me
on the board of E L E b l M.
You ought to come on and just invite him in.
And like the pastor that we spoke about before the show,

(11:33):
who I didn't get to sufficiently early, I wanted to
make sure, Okay, well, if Lonnie recommends Neil Mammon, I
better get him on the show. Because the pastor that
Lonnie recommended, he happened to pass away, and you know,
today is today, Tomorrow is tomorrow, it's a brand new day.
Who knows what the heck is going to happen. No
one really knows. But Lonnie said, this guy is going

(11:55):
to be a superior interview and you want to speak
to him. Here's the other thing that's really weird. And
I didn't realize this until I called Neil, or Neil
called me. First, I texted him, and then finally I realized,
why do I have Neil Mammon in my phone already?

(12:17):
I said, I haven't talked to him before, and this
is going to be so weird. And I spoke to
Neil before the show already about this. Is that he
was looking to move and I recommended to Neil because
I used a particular group of people to help me
move out of California. Always spelled over the Q to

(12:39):
know if Idaho, and I recommended those guys to move
me from California to Idaho, and then I recommended them
to Neil. And Neil, you're not gonna believe that that
was back. I have you in the phone, and i've
had you here since twenty twenty two. So when you
called It's like this lit up it says Neil mammon.

(13:03):
Why does it say, Neil mammon? How have I known
you before? This is so passing strange? And then I
finally realized, Okay, that's it.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
That's why.

Speaker 10 (13:13):
Again I'm just blurting all this stuff upfront, because trust me, Neil,
I will give you time to speak. By gosh, but
this is one of those shows where, in terms of
trying to craft it, I almost didn't know where to start.
There were so many things to cover. And clearly because
you know, everybody knows me, let me put this up.
Everyone knows that I have all these tabs up here,

(13:38):
and I never get to half the tabs that I
want to. Plus I also have I have a bunch
of interview questions over here. I have your book from
all you magnificent bastard. I read your book, and so
I've got tons of questions for me. It's not like

(14:00):
I will be lacking in some facil fashion to be
able to speak with you. So before we get into
the meat of the matter, particularly this book I'd like
to have, and the show is going to deal with
two things that you never want to get involved with.

(14:21):
Not on the same show race and Religion. Do wait
a minute. If I had a producer, you would have
heard this. But I don't have a producer, and so
that's not what you've heard anyway. Neil mammon, could you

(14:41):
give us a little bit of a background about yourself,
like where you grew up, your education, your interests and
the like, so that we can kind of understand a
little bit about where you're coming from.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Sir Okay, Well, I was born at a very young
age in Ghana, Africa, so and then from there we
moved to Jamaica to Sudan. From Sudan we went to Yemen.
And in between I was in a boarding school in
Ethiopia or which is right now. Eritrea used to be

(15:13):
Ethiopia at the time, and then they had the coup
and it became Eritrea. So and then my parents are
actually from India originally my dad. We've been Christians. We
come from a Christian family and Christians since about fifty
one ADS, about almost two thousand years, way back way

(15:34):
back when when Saint Thomas came to Indiana, he founded
the Indian Church there which we call the Marthome Church.

Speaker 8 (15:40):
Martha mean St. Thomas and However, but.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
During my father's generation, which was in the fifties and
the sixties, actually, yeah, fifties and sixties, most of my uncles.

Speaker 8 (15:54):
And my father ended up being Communists.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
So so I grew up in a Marxist okay, great,
and then my dad became a Christian when I was five,
so I did my own immediate home with Christian But
we have some very famous Marxists in the family. One
was actually one of the speakers for the World Council
of Churches, which is one of the churches that pushes

(16:20):
liberation theology, which is basically Marxist and packaged Christian burbiage.
So I've been you know, I spent a lot of
time that finally came to the US, so lived in
Yemen and the Sharia law kind of escaped from there,
and it's a long it's in the book The Stories.
In the book, Jesus is involved in politics, and then
finally came to the States, got a bachelor's degree.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
In electrical engineering, computer engineering.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Master's degree in solid save physics and electrical engineering at
the age of twenty two, and started working in the industry.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
I founded about four.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Companies, didn't make myself filthy rich, but I had a
lot of fun doing it.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
And here I am.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
And then I should say, in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
twenty twenty two, I kind of got a presence on
the internet and found that I was blacklisted in Silkon
Valley and decided that if I going to get a
job in Silkon Valley, basically nobody would hire me because
they would just google me and I'd be on Fox
News or something as not a very bogue kind of person.

(17:24):
So I decided, well, if I was not going to work,
I might as well not work in Idah.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
Okay, that's the first of the night, okay, right there.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
And enjoy a nice piece of property. So we bought
some makers, you know, some cows and just having fun.

Speaker 10 (17:47):
Okay. So there was a dude like you that I
knew one time when I was in the homicide and
the guy was a reserve deputy sheriff. And the guy
was also a pathologist. He was he was a full
fledged doctor, would come out to some of my homicides.
And then he became he passed the bar and became
a lawyer. Uh, and I thought that he should be

(18:08):
a you know, like a nuclear engineer or something like that,
and and he was I called him, And you are
just like him in terms of I called this guy.
He's the quintessential underachiever. You are the quintessential underachiever. Holy,
I wish you'd I wish you would garner some credibility
sometime if you would, pretty please my.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
God, A new startup?

Speaker 10 (18:34):
Okay, Okay, that beggars the point. And what got you
started in? I think you said electrical engineering. Okay, So
what what got you interested in into that?

Speaker 7 (18:47):
Well, my dad was a professor in physics, which is
why we were traveling around the world. So I grew
up two things that he one was science was easy.
It uh, engineering is easy. Mathematics is easy. It all
depends on how good your teacher is. You've got a
stupid teacher, You're it's going to be confusing. You've got
a good teacher, You're going to go that makes sense. Now,
doesn't mean that you'll love it at least, but it

(19:09):
won't make sense.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
So I.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
It was you know, So I came to the States
and I thought I had too often.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
I could do nuclear engineering or electrical engineering, and I
thought electrical engineering is sound a lot.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
More fun, both things that only an underachiever would would
see that, like yourself. You know me, I was just
a dumb flat foot for forty one years. Okay, moving
right along anyway.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
Well, see, I'm afraid to do that kind of work.
I can't think fast enough for that.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Math. Yeah, that doesn't compute when when you talk about
math it I see, God, I can't even find it. Yeah,
this is what I think of with regard to math.
So anyway, thanks for being here. I was reading your CV,
and let me see if I can go to the

(20:03):
proper page for that. Okay, this is Neil Mammon's CV.
This is from the Children's Educational Opportunity Act. And then
I'm going to go through various places where Neil can
be found and where Neil can be read. And the
very first one is every e b l M every
e b l M excuse me, no, every e l

(20:25):
M dot com. And it's right here, every b LM
dot com. So stop. If we could write here, and
Neil Mammon, you're the co creator. Lonnie you're on the
board also.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
And this is this is weird. I'm just I'm just
an employee.

Speaker 10 (20:43):
An employee, okay, Well, I'll tell you what, employee. Let
me see if I can get this focused. Okay, first,
let me take this off so that you can see
the the whole thing. All right, folks, if you would
look closely at Neil Mammon's book, and there are a
bunch of famous, famous people right there, and let's go

(21:07):
go closer, if you would, folks, go closer. Oh, during
my fingers in the wrong space. Who's that face right
there on the book? Why that would be Lonnie Poindexter,
wouldn't it? At sure's heck would so? Anyway, great book.

(21:34):
In terms of reading your CV, I discovered Neil Mammon
that in your numerous descriptors it says that your true
passion is being an apologist and a defender of the faith.
So I had to stop right there and I had
to say, bas, because that's what I call myself. Ask

(21:57):
Neil Mammon, what is an apologist? I've heard this term before,
so what is that?

Speaker 7 (22:02):
So the word apologist comes from the Greek word apologia,
and it comes from first pre to three point fifteen,
which says, always be ready to give an apologia for
the faith that you have, but do it with gentleness
and respect. And that word apologia is really means a
defense or an explanation or an argument. So it's an argument,

(22:24):
a defense and explanation of what you believe. So I
always be really ready to give a defense and argument
and explanation of what you believe, but do it with
gentleness and respect. And so apologetics is the defense of
Christianity in a scientific way, reason, logic, philosophy, archaeology, history,
and others proving that it's true. And that will take

(22:47):
you to my website, my ministry website, which is no
blind Faiths, because part of my ministry is to show
that blind faith is bad and all faiths should be
based on logic and reason and facts and history in archaeology,
and it should be based on truth and science.

Speaker 10 (23:03):
Of course, to let me go to this right now
if I could. This is this is your website, and
I would like you to explain if you could, because
a lot of people are going to get confused. I
said this at the beginning of the show, and I
think I said it also in the promos, and it
leads to a whole host of questions. We're the co

(23:24):
creator along with Kevin McGarry. If I'm not mistaken, yes,
I had him on the show about two and a
half years ago. Oh BZ get the book out. Yes, okay,
I had him and he spoke about this book woked Up,
which is why I wanted to make sure that I
have I had Neil on here as well. So I

(23:45):
have now had both co creators of e B l
M E B l M. So explain if you would
e B l M.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Why e B O M?

Speaker 10 (23:56):
What does it mean? Why is it so potentially confusing?
And yet at the same time you say, and I
believe you, it's not if you just listen to what
it's about. So Neil mammon, can you explain that please?

Speaker 14 (24:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
So basically we were it was twenty twenty and we
were sitting at home watching the news reports of all
the violince with BLM going in and tearing down cities,
destroying black communities and Antifa and all that, and my
wife said to me, do you know that our some
really good friends of ours who were Christians went to

(24:34):
the BLM protest And I'm like, really, she said, yeah.
I don't think they realize that they're Marxists. They don't
realize they just want to show that they're not racist.
That they care for black people. So then she turned
to me and she said, you know, you should call
Kevin and have him called Dean Nelson and get the
Frederick Douglas Foundation to create an organization that people who

(24:57):
want to show they're not racists can align themselves with.
And I said, that's a great idea. So I called
Kevin up, and Kevin said, oh, that's a great idea.
So he called Dean Nelson up, who's the head of
Frederick Douglas Foundation. Kevin was the California president at the time.
And Dean said, you know, Kevin, we're so busy at
the Fredick Douglas Foundation getting out the vote for Trump.
It was twenty twenty, so we've got all these people

(25:19):
working on it. We have no time to focus on this.
Why don't you and Neil do it? Because you know
it was a good friend. So you know, it's like
and you go to your pastor. You say, Pastor, you know,
we're just growing our church. We need a parking lot
ministry and the pastor says, great, ried well.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
That's what happened right.

Speaker 10 (25:37):
Into a job.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
Yeah, So Dean said, you guys, go do it.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
So Kevin called me up and said, great, I guess
we're doing it. And I said, Kevin, I don't know
if you've noticed, but I'm not black, no, no, no,
but you are African American.

Speaker 10 (25:53):
Yeah, okay, yes, so yes.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
In fact, he said, you're the only African American that's
going to be in this company at this point, you know.
And and that's been true because he said, all the
rest of us are just Americans. And now we have
an African too from Kenya in the group. But but
everything else was we're all Americans. I said, okay, I guess,

(26:20):
I guess that's me. And so that's how it started. Now,
how do we come up with the name. The reason
we came up with the name is because we wanted
people to associate it, because you know, if we came
up with a name that was completely independent, people would
not find the connection.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
So we said, okay, black lives do matter.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
But the problem is BLM thinks only black lives matter,
and only certain black lives matter.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
They don't care about the conservative black lives.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
They don't care about the black lives in the room, right,
they don't care about black lives of the Republican congressman. Right.
They only care about some black lives. So we said, well,
what we're trying to say is that all black lives matter.
But since all Black lives matter was taken.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
So we.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Went to every Black life matters, and it kind of
fell in place. And so we have a bunch of principles.
Our principles are real justice from womb to tomb. So
we're pro life one hundred percent. We believe in the
traditional family, which we'll talk about in the book, active fatherhood,
free markets, educational choice, non violence, and criminal justice reform,

(27:24):
because we do believe there is some criminal justice reform
that needs to be done.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
It just has to be done in a proper manner.
Because there are.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Good cops and they're bad cops, and when you lump
them all together, the good cops get the brunt of
the of the of that hate when they shouldn't, and
so you've got a the slingers between the good and
the bad. Just like they're good politicians are bad politicians,
Like there are good black people and bad black people,
good white people and black white and bad white people.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
So you've got to be able to distinguish that. And
we thought we've got to be able to go through that,
and so that's how it all started.

Speaker 10 (27:58):
Okay, so there is the website every BLM. Let me
go to some of the others that Neil has if
you want to discuss this. This is Neil Mammon at
Neilmammon dot substack dot com.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
And my guess is this is just moment dot subset
dot com.

Speaker 10 (28:15):
Okay, so this is your repository of a whole lot
of articles, I would guess.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
Yeah, a bunch of articles I've written, you know, like
the one below that you can see is the world
running out of food. Everybody talks about the world running
out of food and actually turns out it's not.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
It's actually quite the opposite.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Uh. And then I talk there are some talks about
the market the one you have that the marketing of
palm Sunday. How does God fulfill prophecy with free agents? Right,
if he forces you to fulfill prophecy, then you're not
free So how does he do that? And I talk
about how that happens, the mechanics of that, the logic
of that.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
Then there's also this website. Now this is where you
write articles under every bee LM as well too. So
here are a number of articles and folks you can
go to, and I want to emphasize the website. It's
I don't know, if you can't release you can really
see it up here. It's every b LM dot com,
every b l M dot com. Then in in addition

(29:15):
there's this website which is no blindfaith dot com, no
blindfaith dot com, neil mammon. What are people going to
find here when they go?

Speaker 7 (29:25):
So this is the apologetics one. So if you are
not a Christian, or you're a Christian who has blind
faith in Christianity, you know you're a Christian who says
the Bible said that, I believe it. There that sells it. Well, Uh,
that's a bad place to start because you know, somebody
could say, well the Quran said it, I believe it.
That sells it. So why So the question is why

(29:46):
would you want to believe the Bible, not the Quran
or not the bag Gita. What what tells you that
that's right is just a feeling? Well, Muslims have a
stronger feeling and they're hard than you do about your religion.
So that's not a good basis. So why is the
Bible true? The Bible is true, and I absolutely believe
it's true, but I can prove that it's true on
so many areas. So how do you prove the Bible

(30:07):
is true? So on this website we go through all
those questions. Fact there's about five questions I deal with.
One is I prove that blind faith is very dangerous,
and I kind of give you an example. If people
have blind faith, then they can do terrible things. You've
got to have a rational faith, not a superstitious faith.
So I talk about why that's And the second thing

(30:28):
I prove is I prove that I prove that God exists,
and I prove that God exists but using signs and
not using the Bible.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
In fact, I don't use the Bible at all, and
that proof and I have a book there too.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
I don't know if you saw that BZ it's called
Who's Agent X, proving that science and logic show it's
more rational to think God exists. And I go through
just the science of it. I don't think, yeah, that's
right there somewhere with the little black one there yeah,
or the one all yeah, all the way the right too.
So basically that one's a slight book in the other
way out. So I basically science prove that God. Well,

(31:00):
once we prove that God exists, then we say, okay,
let's look at the if God exists, there's only three
religions that are possible, or actually three religions and one option.
They're only either Christianity is true, or Judayism is true,
or Islam is true, or it's an unknown God because
all the other religions eliminate themselves. Hinduism has multiple gods.

(31:22):
You can't have multiple gods. You can't have a multiple
you can't have more than one all powerful being. So
any politics, the religion just drops out immediately, right, So
you're left with the four major religions, sorry, three major
religions and the one unknown. Well, the one unknown. If
we can prove that Christianity is true, the one unknown
falls away, so we start focusing on Christianity, and really

(31:44):
is Juday Christianity? So those are the two we look at,
and we start with the Bible. And if I can
prove the Bible is accurate, then I have started my
step forward. So the next thing we do is we
proved that the Bible is accurate and was what they
wrote two thousand years ago. So then we say, okay,
so what they wrote two thousand years ago is what
I had. But what if they were fooled? What if

(32:06):
Jesus they claim Jesus rose from the dead. What if
Jesus didn't really rise from the dead. So then the
next thing we do is we prove that Jesus actually
physically existed, is a person in history, and he physically
rose from the dead. And I claim, my claim is
it's a case that will stand up in a court
of law. And so so go back to summary. Blind
faith is bad, God exists, the Bible is true, Jesus

(32:28):
Christ really rose from the dead, and that gets you
to the fundamentals of Christianity. And then we go into
well what is Christianity really? So then I do a
talk or I talk about why Christ had to die
and why God as punished tent and if you think
about it philosophically, you don't need the Bible to come
to that conclusion. In fact, I'm writing a book right

(32:49):
now that talks about how you can arrive at Jesus
or some you don't know his name, but you will
arrive at a savior even if you don't have the
Bible logically us using philosophy, And so we explain all that,
and that encompasses some of it, and then we go
through other things like can God exist?

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Sorry, can God create a stone so big that he
can't move it?

Speaker 11 (33:12):
You know?

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Can miracles really happen? I talk about, you know, is
it impossible for miracles to happen? I talk about the
scientific premise behind that, and it turns out that it's
actually quite possible for most. In fact, we can explain
almost every miracle in the Bible in some scientific matter
that does not violate the laws of physics.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
There's one or two that may, but most of them don't.

Speaker 10 (33:35):
Folks. I can tell what kind of a show is
going to be already, and we're not going to do
any breaks, okay, because there are otherwise won't get enough,
There won't be enough time for this. So I just
want to remind everybody.

Speaker 12 (33:48):
The conservative media done right. You're listening to the shr
Media network.

Speaker 10 (33:56):
And my guest tonight is Neil Mammon, and also Lonnie
Poindeck is here who recommended Neil to me. Lonnie at
any point of course, obviously if you would please chime in. Also,
Jesus is involved in politics dot com and and that
kind of pushes me over to this and where I
want to go. I didn't know that this was written

(34:19):
in twenty twelve. I got this book first because I thought, oh,
this is really interesting. Hole by this first. I want
to have you back and I want to talk about this.
Jesus is involved in politics that has an entirely I
could do two hours over that thing, and I bet
you could too. Also, we hit the Children's Educational Opportunity Act.

(34:45):
Let me see that. Yeah, those are the things that
I want to talk about.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Well in some of the Educational Opportunity Act as an
act that's going being there signing the petitions right now
to put on the on in California and basically it'll
give every town in California eventeen thousand dollars if they
quit the public school and do their own thing.

Speaker 8 (35:03):
Yes, no, no, there are some dangers.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
Whenever you take money from the government, the government can
dictate what they want you to do and take control.

Speaker 8 (35:14):
But the CEO Act is different because it is a petition.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
It is a proposition, and so the only way you
can change it is by going back to the people.
You can't legs, leaders can't touch this, so it's fixed.
It does not allow the government to interfere in anything.
They can't stop you from doing anything as long as
the accreditation is standard along with what they have today.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
So I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 10 (35:42):
Neil, mammon, you're a twofer in California. You're not just
hated in Silicon Valley. Oh no, you're hated by California itself.

Speaker 15 (35:56):
Fair.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
This is not my proposition. I've been working with Kevin
McNamee on this.

Speaker 10 (36:02):
So it is like, oh my gosh, it, dude, you
have your work cut out for you. Let me transition
now through the book. And this is primarily why I
wanted to talk to Neil tonight. Well, this is a
twenty twenty four book. You can get it at Amazon.
You can get it at Barnes and Noble, you can

(36:22):
get it at probably a whole host of bookstores. I
happen to get this from Amazon because I wanted it quickly,
and I wanted it now because I wanted to do
all these things to it. So for the time being,
I want to refer to the things that are in
your book here. And the book is called How to
Stop Racism in America, A Real Solution for African America plight.

(36:45):
So let's start if we could. Let me go back
to the very first tab that I have here, because
as I said before, this is a book, and I
already told Neil about this. I know five hundred and
thirty five people that should get a copy of this,

(37:06):
and that includes every person in the House and every
person in the Senate, because as I told Neil before
the show and before we got together with Lonnie, you know,
at the conclusion of reading this, and it's not that long, folks,
it's not like you have to go through war and peace,
and it's not Tolstoy, and it's completely understandable, and anybody

(37:27):
who's highly educated can understand this because it's footnoted greatly.
But in one hundred and ninety one pages, Neil Mammon
manages to say things that other people have taken four
to five hundred pages and a certain amount of tomes
in order to try to explain in a logical fashion.
And I'm sure perhaps some of you are probably thinking that, oh,

(37:48):
you know, this is just going to be another bed
racist racist. No, folks, no, get that out of your
brain house group. Right now, it all comes together, it
all makes sense, and a lot of you because you
are my fans, and you're my audience, will stop start

(38:10):
listening to this and you go, oh, yeah, That's what
I've been thinking all along, all this time, except that
Neil has managed to place all of these things, questions
and answers in one critical I believe, compendium right here.

(38:31):
And so let's go to BLM for a second. And
this was deres out of the BLM website headline from
the La Times after a BLM protest. According to their website,
most of this has been degrassed out. BLM's primary reasons
for being included disrupting the nuclear family that was pulled,

(38:58):
women's reproductive rights, dismantling patriarchal practices, doing the work required
to dismantle cisgender privilege, Okay, more medlely mouth stuff, fostering
a queer affirming network, sure, freeing ourselves from the tight
grip of heteronormative thinking. Well, one of the things that

(39:21):
and Neil, perhaps you can explain it, Communists, socialists, etc.
Are not big Marxists are not big on family. And
one of the other things that I believe was also
yanked out of the website from BLM was the fact
that there was a reference to Marxism in here, and
they are inexorably linked. So if you would, Neil mammon,

(39:44):
go into a little bit about b l M and
what they've what they've indicated here, and then I want
to go just kind of through your book because oh
my god, people, folks, you need to read this book. Neil,
can you take BLM?

Speaker 7 (39:59):
And yeah, So they were started, as most people know,
after the Trayvon Martin incident in Florida. I can't even
remember the year, but and then they kind of was
on a slow burn for a while, but when George
Floyd was killed, they took off. And their whole thing
was Black lives matter, as you know, and their whole
idea was that black lives were Black men were being

(40:21):
killed in huge numbers, in proportion disproportional to white men,
are disproportional to Asian men. And they're right, they are
being killed disproportional to white men and Asian men, but
not disproportional to the crimes that are being committed. So,
in fact, we did a while I was writing this book,

(40:41):
I studied it and I want to say, how many
black people are killed?

Speaker 8 (40:45):
Though now it turns out that they're not they're not
killed disproportionally. They're arrested disproportionally.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Right, Their number of Blacks put in prison are disproportional
to their population, but they're not killed portional to their
to the crimes or to the population. It turns out
that there is one ethnicity that is killed disproportional to
their crime and disproportional to their ethnicity, and.

Speaker 8 (41:11):
That is Asians.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
Why because Asians do so few crimes, and they killed
a few of them, and suddenly the percentage of Asians
that were killed is far larger than than any other
You're like, for a few crimes, these Asians were killed.
So it's when you start looking at the statistics, you go, wait,
there's something wrong here. And so the idea of BLM

(41:35):
was we need to write this wrong. But it wasn't
a real wrong, and but that was what they stated.
But then suddenly they're talking about heteronormativity, queer cis gender
being bad, you know, and I'm like, I'm not a
cis gender.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
I'm nothing.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
I'm a human, right, And then they then they want
to disrupt the nuclear family. And you look at all
this and you say, there's something.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Familiar about all this.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
And when you look at it and you understand that
this was the Marxist plan for America that they laid
down in the fifties.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
Like I had a couple of a couple of senators
who actually read the Marxist.

Speaker 7 (42:15):
Plan in the fifties, and these were all part of it,
you know, increasing pornography, breaking down the family, promoting homosexuality.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
All this stuff was there.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
And here's why if you go back, and I don't
want to go too back in history, but if you
go back in history, I believe I covered in the book.
If you go back in history, when socialism came to
America and they wanted to promote it here, they realized
it was not going to work. And the reason it
was not going to work is because Americans were too independent.
They didn't want to be tied into the government. They

(42:45):
didn't want the government's health. They were like, get away.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
From me right.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
In fact, the whole independence movement in America was we
don't want your stupid British government. We want freedom, we
want liberty. So that continued, and so when the socialists,
mainly from the Frankfurt School, these were the guys that Hitler,
they were socialists. Hitler was a socialist, but he was
a mean socialist, and so they ran away because Hitler
didn't want to share socialism with anybody else. So these

(43:10):
guys end up here and they said, I end up
setting up a shop at Columbia University. Well this is
in the thirties, right, And they decide they want to
bring socialism to America. They try a few experiments with
voluntary socialism and it doesn't work, and they realize why,
So they said, here's the point. We've got to do
two things. Socialism only works if we don't have a

(43:32):
strong family. Socialism only works if you don't have a
strong church. Socialism only works if you.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
Are dependent on the state.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
Right, So you go through this whole list of things,
and that's the only way they'll get socialism. So they
have to well how do they start if most of
us have the sense of independence, how do we prevent that?

Speaker 8 (43:53):
Well, you get involved in the schools.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
So John Dewey, Manning, these all guys get involved the
schools and they start change the curriculum for the school.
So he starts seeing this whole plan come together, and
Bielam is just one tiny branch of that. Because the
last thing that you want to do with socialism is
you need the races to not get along with each other.

(44:15):
You've got to create riots in the streets. You've got
to create instability. That's how Hitler took over Germany. Remember
if you know anything about Hitler, he had these Brownshirts
going and they were disrupting the sheets, streets, they were
causing problems, and Hitler goes, I can solve this, I
can solve this, and he did overnight. He solved the
Brownshirt problem. Why because they were all working for him.

(44:38):
But what they don't tell you.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
Is that in the Night of the Long.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Knives, Hitler goes through and he kills all the Brownshirt
leadership because he knows that they put.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
Him in power and they're the only ones who can
now take him out of.

Speaker 7 (44:55):
So if you start looking at all this, you realize
a lot of these things are tied together, and the
breakdown of the family, this is all tied together, and
it's all tied back to socialism and Marxism, which, as
I said, I grew up in my family is all
part of that.

Speaker 8 (45:10):
I mean, it was such in my family.

Speaker 7 (45:12):
We would go back to India on vacation and the
argument at the dinner table was not whether socialism was good,
but which flavor of Marxism.

Speaker 10 (45:20):
Was the best, of course, And we need to do
this continuously because, as I've said for quite some time,
every new dictator thinks that I can do communism or
socialism better than the last guys.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Yes, Mom, Donnie, Yeah, it didn't work because they did
it wrong, right.

Speaker 10 (45:40):
Yeah, exactly. So then you talk about here in this book,
you're talking about the tenets of BLM, and then the
very next page you say, sadly, this isn't going to
solve anything, and you write, as a quick example, contrary
to solving any problems, CRT dogma is poised to in
these racial tensions to the point of breaking. Can you

(46:04):
explain that, please, sir.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
So, basically, if you look at CRT and D, I,
why why CRT and D and I Because you understand
that it doesn't really work. You promote people to the
points of obsolescence, and then people start dying, doctors are
killing patients, airline pilots start crashing planes.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
You know, but CRT is meant to create a Let's
put it this way.

Speaker 7 (46:26):
One of the things that I noticed is that because
I was looking at and they're saying, oh, look there's
a Klan rally in North Carolina. I'm like the Klan.
When I last studied the Klan, I can't even remember
when it was there were there were The FBI said
there were less than one hundred and fifty Clans people
in all of America, right, and then suddenly they have
a whole march. Where did these people come from? Well,

(46:47):
the only way you can get the Clans people to
march is if you can get a counter force, which is, oh,
we're gonna we hate all the white people. We're going
to hurt all the white people. Well, naturally you want
to get the clan extremist rise up because they can
recruit people. But for years they cann't recruit anybody. It's
only BLM shows up in Antiva and the Klan has
thousands of people in marching with them. Now I don't

(47:09):
it wasn't the clan, it wasn't what they call themselves.
But the reality was the white supermacin movement was almost
dead because there was nothing to fight against until BLAM
and Antifa showed up and so, and that's again I'm
just using FBI statistics. You can see the Klan, the
number of clan members or supermissis members rose. Now I

(47:30):
have to be very careful those numbers because some of
those numbers are if you're a Christian, you're.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
White supermissus automatically right.

Speaker 7 (47:38):
You're like, wait, what so so you have the actual
numbers and once you discern them, you realize they did grow.
But again there's still I mean this, the Klan is toothless.
There's nothing they can do.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Well.

Speaker 10 (47:51):
Then I looked on page fourteen or for your book,
and this is a quote from Jesse Jackson and it
illustrated unar. You already know this, you know where it's going.
Jesse Jackson said, there's nothing more painful to me at
this stage in my life, and to walk down the
street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then
look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. After

(48:14):
we've all been through this, just to think we can't
walk down our own streetsility, how humiliating. Then the very
next page, page fifteen, you right. So the two questions
at hand are what's the real reason for African American plight?
How do we change it? The second one is does
racism against African Americans actually exist in the present day.

(48:38):
Is it the cause of African American plight? And if so,
how do we stop it? So the first question, Neil mammon,
what's the real reason for African American plight? How do
we change it?

Speaker 7 (48:51):
Well, that's the whole book, right, So I can hear this,
you bet, so I can give you this conclusion now.

Speaker 8 (48:57):
If you want, or we can go through it. I'm
happy to give you the conclusion. I don't know how
you want to do.

Speaker 10 (49:02):
Sure, go ahead and do that. And then I've got,
as you might imagine, you got a lot of other
things that I do want to highlight and go over
you with.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
Yeah, so there is the answer is it is not
quite simply because there is nothing that an African American
can't do today that a white person can do.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
I mean, there's not a single thing, but there is.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
What we see is what I and I in that
page before that, I document what we call African American plight.

Speaker 8 (49:28):
So the reality of African American plight.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
Because Africans make the least amount of money, they have
the highest gam membership, they are highest on welfare, they
have the least The literacy rate is.

Speaker 8 (49:39):
About seventeen percent.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
And I want to juxtaposition this about you know, in
the height of racism, and that's why I say it's
not about racism. At the height of racism in the
nineteen thirties, with the Jim Crow laws and everything, the
literacy rate of America, of Aacan Americans, African Americans was
seventy percent seven zero. Today, when you can barely find
a racist for the life of you, the literacy rate

(50:05):
is seventeen percent. So you're telling me that in the
last what thirty almost one hundred years, you know, it'll
be ninety five years. The last ninety five years, with
all our fights against racism, we've not eliminated.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
In fact, we've made it works than Jim crolongs.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Obviously, this has nothing to do with racism. There's another
good reason why African Americans are in this play, and
that's what we start to go through the.

Speaker 8 (50:30):
History of.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
One of the biggest things that let me see if
I've got the right slide for this. There's there's a gentleman.
I'll stop this right now. There's a gentleman that I
was listening to, and I made a reference to Hugh
Hewitt earlier. I used to listen to Hugh Hewitt's show
from southern California before he moved to DC, and Hewitt

(50:56):
is sort of a moderate conservative, And then he left,
he went to DC, and then apparently the radio network
was looking for somebody else and they replace him with
Larry Elder. And I happen to think Larry Elder is
a hell of a lot smarter and certainly quicker on
his feet than Hugh Hewitt. The guy is absolutely brilliant.

(51:21):
He reminds me of sort of a younger Thomas Soul
if you were, if you will who I wear this
hat because I think Thomas Soul is an American treasure.
I have a copy of Basic Economics. Everybody should have

(51:42):
a copy of his Basic Economics. But one of the
things that Larry Elder said during his show, and I
bring it up here, is you know, if you want
to escape poverty, you do these simple, these very simple things. Yeah,
and when you think about it and it's applied to

(52:02):
your life, this isn't just first blacks or whites or Huma,
it's everybody. He says. The formula to escape poverty is simple.
One finish high school. Two get a job, don't quit
unless you have another one, Three, don't have a child
before marriage. Four avoid the criminal justice system. And if

(52:25):
you do those things, you will not be poor. I'm sorry.
The amount of common sense in that is staggering and
brain glazing. You would think that people would inherently intuit
these things, but the answer is quite no. Leading me
to this, in your book, page twenty one, you talk

(52:48):
about the things that Lannie and I have spoken about
any number of times. That's this fathers. Yep, you write
in the Annals of History and you just mentioned this.
The twenties and thirty standards a testament to the unyielding
spirit of African American families. They rose like a phoenix
from the ashes, surmounting insurmountable odds and carving into a

(53:10):
path towards a brighter future. They're unbreakable bonds, coupled with
the profound involvement of fathers within their families, became the
bedrock of their resilience. Yes, it's like, stop making sense.
Stop it with that, and this is a book of

(53:32):
common sense. Can you address, Neil mammon the role of
fathers in the once nuclear black family and then to me,
that kicks my butt over to nineteen sixty four and
a guy that was a major. Well, Neil, perhaps you
perhaps you can take that from here ly.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Well, so.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
Back if you look at the reason why the nineteen thirties.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
And even if you look at the whole the torching
of the oaklo in Oklahoma, off the Black Wall Street,
all that, the reason why they were doing so well
at the time was because black men.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
Were doing really well.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
In fact, and there's a whole bunch of information around that,
and I don't want to but the reason they were
doing well is because men were responsible.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
For their family.

Speaker 7 (54:21):
You need women to tame men. If you don't have
a woman and a family to tame a man, you
get rogue males. And we see this, We see this
in nature too. The reason we have rogue elephants is
because rogue elephant because the elephants that have the females
kick out the competitors to them. Same with lions and

(54:42):
all that, and you get these rogue males Roman countryside.
So what has happened is by keeping the fathers there.
The fathers now are responsible for a family, they're responsible
to work, they can go out and do whatever they want.

Speaker 8 (54:55):
They women tame men, and this is the fundamental.

Speaker 7 (54:58):
Reason why society has been so focused on family. And
as long as the family structure is good, they're okay.
And this is why the communists want to break down
the family structure in America. Notice they don't want to
break down the front family structure in their countries, but
they want to break down the family structure here. And
so what fathers do is they tame men. And in fact,

(55:20):
we can even talk about what we noticed about is
even in the Watts riots back in the in the sixties,
the people who they arrested were all teen boys. Yes
they were not these twenty nine thirty year old wide
because something happened in sixty four that took the fathers

(55:43):
out of the home and for about a year and
a half there was a group of boys, teen boys
who had no fathers in the home. And that's what
caused the Watts riots. And so we see that every
time we've destabilized the family and you've got these rogue
males out there. In fact, in Islam, to be fair
with Islam, one of the problems with Islam anytime you

(56:04):
have multiple wives, because the ratio of women to men,
the number of women and the number of male babies
a number of female babies are born. There's a very
tight ratio of that, and that ratio is within one
to two percent. So if let's say that you have
a culture which is polygamy, polygamy and every man marries

(56:26):
three women, all of a sudden, you have a fifteen
percent shortage of wives for the I'm sorry, thirty percent
shortage of wives for all the rest of the male.
So what are you going to do with all these
other males? So Islam found the best way to get
rid of these extra males because they were causing problems
is to send them off on saria, on jihat, go

(56:49):
fight another nation, Go die for us. We'll send you
out fight because we don't have a place for you.
So anytime you have this polygamous culture, you will see
that the excess of males create this this instability, and
what do you do about that? Or you get culture
which would then have to go kidnap women from other
communities and force the demara. And that's the same thing

(57:11):
that we're seeing in China today. In China, they had
the one Chile policy for so long and as a
result of that, people were aborting female babies right and
so they've got way too many Chinese men right now,
and they've got an instability of their culture, and this
is something that they're dealing with now. It turns out
they're so drag cony and they can control them. But

(57:33):
at some point you will see the Chinese military is
going to have you have to do something about it.
And we've got to keep an eye on that too.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Well.

Speaker 10 (57:42):
You mentioned nineteen sixty four. I know what happened in
nineteen sixty four, and there's a very infamous quote that
I may or may not go over here that people
it's a highly contested quote from Lyndon Baines Johnson J.
Because I was alive during that time. LBJ said we're

(58:04):
going to have a great society. But Neil mammon, we're
going to make this great society by doing what.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
So.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
LBJ was a socialist.

Speaker 8 (58:15):
You have to understand that right from the stop by
the way before we get there.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
I do in the book. I do compare some of
the ethnicities, you know, because we brought the African Americans
Africans here as slaves, and so we're saying this is terrible,
and a lot of people think that that's why because
they were slaves.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
This is what has happened. But I don't know anyone who.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
Was a slave today. I know a lot of black people,
and I.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Don't know anyone who's impact.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
I don't know anyone whose father was a slave either,
so at the most maybe their grandfather was a slave.
So I don't unless there's something genetically passed through you.
And we know that's not true. That's nonsense. You can't
genetically get oppression. You can be oppressed now, or you
can have trauma now, but you're not going to get
it that genetically passed through to you. So there's nobody
who's experts is that? So what is the difference between

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them and other innicities also experience oppression. The Chinese were
brought here as indentured servants, forced to work on the railroads.
There was a Chinese There was a whole bunch of
discrimination against them. They were pushed out, they were forced
into their own communities, and yet the Chinese are doing
so well today. The Japanese came over here, and when
they came over here, they were put in tournament camps

(59:24):
and they were discriminated again. All their possessions were taken away,
and yet they are very making a lot of money
in America. And then I look at the Irish. The
Irish came over here with a potato famin. They were
treated like dirt, and yet the Irish are doing pretty decent.
So what is why are these other ethnicities? I mean,
slavery is not the only thing. It's oppression.

Speaker 14 (59:44):
They were forced out of communities, they were beaten, they
were I mean, there's a whole lot of bad things
went on, but none of that has happened to this
generation of Irish, this generation of Chinese, this generation of Japanese.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
But something has happened to this generation of African Americans.
And what is that? And that's what Glyndon Johnson did.
So Johnson was in a buying.

Speaker 7 (01:00:05):
He was brought on to the Kennedy ticket only because
he would bring Texas with him, right and so, and
Kennedy won by barely one percent. Kennedy almost didn't win.
In fact, there's a lot of arguments that Kennedy actually lost,
but there was some shenanigans going on and Kennedy kind

(01:00:26):
of was given the race. So and he was running
against Richard Nixon. So Johnson has this problem. He was
just made vice from price president. He just became president
when Kennedy died, so he'd never run through a re
election on his own. He knew he was going to
lose the South completely because the South, whereas even though
they had become many have become Democrats, because they were

(01:00:49):
already voting for FDR.

Speaker 8 (01:00:51):
The South knew that LBJ was the biggest.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
Racist a round because he had said so many things
as a senator in Texas. He had said a horrible thing.
As a senator, he had voted against the Civil Rights Act.
He had objected to the anti not civilrights right, so
they had voted against the Anti Lynching Act. He actually
voted for the Civil Rights Act, he doesn't want to
sign it in place, but he voted against the Anti
Lynching Act.

Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
And he said it was a joke.

Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
He said, people aren't getting links when they were. Obviously
blacks were gang links black blacks and whites were gang linz.
And he whites who helped the blacks were gang lins.
So he knew he had to do something, and so
he comes up with a planning. He says, I'm going
to start this great society. And he goes to a
black college and he tells them I am going to
take care of all of you. And with that he

(01:01:35):
starts welfare, and he sends one hundred thousand social workers
into the black community to encourage them to kick the
father out of the house so they can get well.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
Firm one.

Speaker 15 (01:01:50):
And we.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
Kevin and I and Lannie have a mutual friend that
I talked to, and she said that when she was
a teenager, she would hear her mom arguing with the
social worker because the dad had lost his job temporarily,
and the social worker would basically say, kick that bum
out of the house.

Speaker 8 (01:02:07):
I can get you twice as much money.

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
And she said that her aunt would get calls from
the social workers saying, hey, I'm coming over in an hour.
Hide his coat, his keys, and his boots so I
can say.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
That there's no man in the house and I can
get you more money. And what you see is you
see this forced And he.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
Targeted the African Americans right because he wanted the South
to vote for him, and he said, look now I'm
giving you all this money. Now you can argue. I
argued that he was a racist and he knew this
is one way to control them. But again, you take
it wherever you want to go. But as a result
of this, the black community. In fact, if you look

(01:02:47):
at the I mean, it's a little known fact that
before the nineteen sixties, more blacks would get married than wise.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
The marriage rate was higher amongst blacksmis from whites.

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
And yet in the nineteen six sixty five onwards, we
start seeing that drop off where now more and more
black babies are born out of wedlock, more and more
Black women are single mothers, and you see more of family.
And why because once the man is not needed, he
has no purpose in life except for himself. And you

(01:03:19):
go back to the rogue mail problem. Well, what happens
with the rogue mail problem. Well, the rogue mail problem,
there are always other leaders of the rogue mails, and
you get roving gangs. And what do we see in
the inner city roving gangs. And now these are gangs
fighting in some other gangs. Gangs need a way to
make money, so they're stealing, they're hijacking cards, but most

(01:03:39):
of all they're doing dealing in drugs. And so now
you see this whole scenario developed naturally from let's kick
the father out of the house.

Speaker 10 (01:03:50):
Well, the other thing you see you see about drugs,
gangs especially in law enforcement. Is what are the first
things you realize is they are a substitution for accepting
and family instead of the once nuclear black family. If
we're talking about blacks, and it's about race. So that's
what leftists and demarants make it about race, is that

(01:04:10):
they are a substitute. Gangs are a substitute for the
once nuclear black family.

Speaker 8 (01:04:17):
Leadership Men are seeking fathers.

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
Yes, the gang leader becomes now there the facto father
becomes their replacement.

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
Father, exactly yin Yang mars Venus. Both halves make a
whole that is absolutely necessary. One without the other is
essentially pointless. Now you go back and you illustrate in
this book. Also, FDR didn't do anybody any favors. FDR

(01:04:46):
was a result he red lined in terms of housing,
and he said essentially to banks, you know, you got
to consider this. The term wasn't redlining at the time,
but it was basically saying that what about these neighborhoods
where people and areas are considered too risky for an
investment predicated upon racial composition. So that started under FDR.

(01:05:08):
Then you go into great detail in this book in
terms of history. There's a guy named Jacob Magid, a
tailor from New York City. Under FDR's draconian National Industrial
Recovery Act at the time, theoretically the forty cents, for

(01:05:30):
example and a tailor was the price that was charged
for doing a particular bit of tailoring work. He reduced
it to thirty five cents. So FDR through him in jail.
Behind this. It's like, my God, and I'll get to this.

(01:05:51):
But I'm kind of big footing myself here in terms
of there's a specific time in this book, Neil mammon
when you bullet point this and this and this and
this and this and this, and I immediately said, I
see one trend, one obvious link through all of this.

(01:06:15):
It's Democrats. Blah blah blah, Democrats blah blah blah blah
blah blah, democrats blah blah blah. Now I can page
forward to that in the book. And like I said,
I'm kind of big footing myself. But the theme was democrats,
always has been and always will be. Yeah, a pro

(01:06:37):
lynching racist. Let me go to some of the other
tabs here. The social workers were incentivized to remove fathers
from homes. Then they were tasked with encouraging single parent
households to become reliant on government assistance. Now, just when
you think government creates the problem and then government attempts
to step in to solve the problem, that they created

(01:07:02):
an incredible book. I'm gonna see if I can go
forward to here a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Let me just shut up in here, BC.

Speaker 15 (01:07:07):
There's one thing I wanted to point out the many
things that I'm going to point out, but I've been
been taking kopious notes here, is that the movie Claudine
with Diane Carroll, who had a big crush on back
in the day. I had one view of it in
my youth, and those with a darker paint job as well,
But come to find out, the backdrop to that movie

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story one is the very things that Neil covers in
this book, and that you are outlaying the things that
you see in the book and your own personal experience,
and me, as a someone with a darker paint job
who grew up in southern California, I saw a close
personal how the black community went from being a community

(01:07:53):
of overcomers to a community that lacked fathers, and then
subsequently we had a community that was besieged by a
gang activity. And this is a community where I grew up,
which was in in in the Los Angeles area, in

(01:08:16):
in the southwest quadrant of Los Angeles that had, uh
is a solid middle class, soer middle class community of
just folks who happened to have the darker paint job.
And I remember in my neighborhood you could count on
one hand how many households were single parent typically female

(01:08:39):
head of household in the entire neighborhood. And I remember
the families themselves, and in some of the families, I
was close friends with the sons. And and I'm not
going to go far down this rabbit hole, but let
me just say it's when one family was a father
and a mother and there were three girls and two boys,

(01:09:02):
and the family split and then the family lost the home,
the mother and they lost the home went into foreclosure,
and that family disappeared. And then some years later I
ran into that family in Los Angeles in a different

(01:09:23):
part of town.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
Let's just say, the place where the rent was dirt
cheap for a reason. And that family. And oh and
by the way, that family.

Speaker 15 (01:09:34):
The mother was a ben mother for the boy Scouts,
and I was a boy scout became a boy scout
because of moving to the community when my parents moved
there in nineteen sixty six, and I became a boy
scout from a cub scout. And so I see this
family years later, and they're not prominent like they were

(01:09:55):
when they lived in our community. Mom was there, the
old oldest daughter was had had a child out of wetlock.
The younger daughter was pregnant at the time. The oldest
boy was drugs and incarcerated. And uh, and then the

(01:10:19):
the the youngest boy was homosexual. And that's all because,
quite frankly, because the father was gone and so it
was you know, and and and and then that was
duplicated throughout the community.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
You begin to see that.

Speaker 15 (01:10:35):
And then Ump jumped this gang that is known today
because of gangster rap and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
Uh and and well, I'll say who they are. They
call themselves the Crips.

Speaker 16 (01:10:46):
And it's an interesting history about that name and where
they got it, the name crip, thing of cripple and
so forth. And Uh, that game rose to promise because
of this I just call him roving game of unsupervised blackmail.
Youth went throughout the Los Angeles area in that part
of town and read havoc on anyone that was not

(01:11:12):
a part of the demographic of the broken families and
so forth. So I grew up in a two parent household,
and so let's just say I had to deal with
them in my h last two years of high school
and uh in my peers as well.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
So it's it.

Speaker 15 (01:11:29):
You know, the things that Neil cover so eloquently in
this book and the things you know from practical.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
Experience BC are things that I lived. I saw it.
I didn't know why it happened the way it happened,
but I saw the fallout when the dads were gone,
which I used to call the bull elephants. When they
were gone, there was there was trauma in the in
the in.

Speaker 15 (01:11:51):
The jungle, and it took the bull elephants to be
re established for there be to uh those communities to
come back to what they were, and they haven't bounced
back from that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Here we are in what twenty.

Speaker 10 (01:12:03):
Five, Neil mammon, I'd like to ask you a question.
I'd like to see if I can solicit your assistance
on this.

Speaker 12 (01:12:10):
Please.

Speaker 10 (01:12:11):
Here we have the Mark one Model one Lonnie Poindexter,
and here we have you Neil mammon. And this is
me asking you, Neil, mammon. I keep telling Lonnie you
have a number of books to your credit. I keep
telling Lonnie, and would you please emphasize to him comma, sir, comma,

(01:12:31):
he has a book inside in terms of being an inspiration,
in terms of his family, in terms of his dad,
his mom, the conditions under which he lived, the success
all of that stuff. And I keep asking Lonnie, jeez,
would you please get to it and write a book.
And uh, Neil, would you help me out with this?

Speaker 12 (01:12:54):
Please?

Speaker 10 (01:12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:12:55):
I kind it's even easier today, Lonnie. You just have
to record all your memories on something and then you
get somebody to put it all together. There are people
who do that, and they're not too expensive either, especially
if you hire them in the Philippines or something.

Speaker 10 (01:13:11):
Okay, the other thing I want to talk about that
is in this book here is it talks about family
on page sixty two or excuse me, marriage. The first
casualty of this was marriage. Until nineteen fifty, As you
pointed out, African Americans got married more often than whites,
So fatherless skyrockets, the percentage of female headed households skyrockets.

(01:13:35):
Numerous charts and grafts to indicate precisely this. And the
only thing, the only conclusion I can make out of
all of this, Neil Mammon and Lonnie Poindexter, is this
was intentional.

Speaker 6 (01:13:47):
Yes, yes, yes it was.

Speaker 7 (01:13:51):
It's the only thing you can reason I mean it.
I mean it was intentional on the masterminds, I think,
the the poor social workers and you know the pawns
were were just doing what they were told to do.
Oh yeah, we should give more money. More money is good.
It's the it's the whole. It's what's called. It's toxic love, right,

(01:14:14):
it's toxic charity. In fact, there's a book that a
missionary wrote called Toxic Charity, and he talks about how
charity can be very toxic.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
It can destroy cultures. And I won't go into that here,
but you should definitely look it up.

Speaker 7 (01:14:29):
But this is the same thing. It was toxic charity.
We went out and said, here's money, here's money, here's money,
and you're destroying it. Well, I'll give you an example
of toxic charity in the real world. You know, Tom's
the shoe company. For every shoe you bought, they'd give
a free shoe to some child in Africa, Well, what
did that do? That destroyed the entire shoe industry in Africa.

(01:14:51):
Cobblers went out of business. The bankrupted all these technology,
the people who the leather makers, the needle makers, this
whole group, this whole market segment got bankrupted. And Tom's
is like, but we're doing good. And luckily Tom's realized
that this was the worst thing they could do is
give free shoes out and displace all the natural commerce there.

(01:15:16):
And finally they realized, okay, well what we should do
instead is we should now try to make up with it.
So now they actually have shoe factories in those areas
that they've previously destroyed, which is far better because now
you're bringing skills, you're bringing commerce and building all the
industries that need to support those factories. So that's the
same thing that they were doing here. They were going
on and saying, here's some free money, here's some free money,

(01:15:37):
here's some free money, and they were destroying the local economy.
They're looking at the locally infrastructure, the local families and everything,
and instead what they should have been doing is saying, look,
we are going to help you. And then, of course
when the other extreme, we're going to help you by
hiring you even when you're not capable. Right, and some

(01:15:58):
had the book I said, look, if a company, Amazon
or Google wants to help people, they shouldn't go out
and hand people money. They shouldn't donate to be a
len What they should do is, look, Amazon, we've got
a bunch of multi millionaires on Amazon who make their
money by selling knickknacks and whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:16:18):
Right, these people understand business.

Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
Why we say, look, we're going to help these multimillionaires
on Amazon. I'm not talking abou basis. I'm talking about
the small business people who made so much money on Amazon.
On YouTube order and say, we want you to help
these inner city kids learn those skills. We don't want
to give you a handout. We want you to teach
them skills so that they may start their own business.

(01:16:41):
They may start the whole thing and may. In fact,
what you should do is teach them the skills so
that you might want to hire them to help your business,
because that incentive now helps you help them help everybody else.
That's the kind of thing that we should be doing
instead of handing out money or giving people promotions that
don't deserve that's the worst thing you can do.

Speaker 10 (01:16:58):
Yes, I'm an on page sixty eight in your book,
and I'm going to read the quote because again, I
can't summar raise things like that. And that's you know,
when I want to talk about things like this. It's
wonderful that I have the professionals to be able to
consult that know so many things about this. But in
summer you said, finally the racists had found out how

(01:17:20):
to keep African Americans down and also put them to use.
Blacks had survived slavery intact, they'd survived the attack on
them economically, they'd survived Jim Crow, they'd survived lynching. But
they were simply not able to survive and extricate themselves
from the shackles of free money and free handouts, which
resulted in fatherlessness and utterly destroyed their culture and their families.

(01:17:44):
And then you make a link to today, which is
so true. And if I'm going to have to pre
ding you, which is this, even I can't do it
one handed, which is this.

Speaker 12 (01:18:00):
Saying on the.

Speaker 10 (01:18:01):
Internet, if the product is free, then you are the product.
Holy moly, that was you know, I intuited that that
most everybody did. They understand it, but only when it's
made clear to them, as you did with this book.

(01:18:23):
Neil Mammon, just I have so many more tabs. Then
we go into you had mentioned the KKK earlier, and
then you mentioned Margaret Sanger, and then you mentioned genocide.
And I thought, since I'd already read the book, there

(01:18:44):
are people that are saying that these quotes, if I
can find them, here we go, I'll put these up
because people are saying, oh no, no, no, no, no no,
this is not what Margaret Sanger meant. And I guess
that's because you think that because you can't read. But

(01:19:09):
the quotes are. But for my view, I believe there
should be no more babies nineteen forty seven. The most
merciful thing that a large family does to one of
its infant members is to kill it nineteen twenty Margaret Sanger.
And then of course the one that no no, she
oh no, Margaret Sanger never said this, This can't be true.

(01:19:32):
We don't want the word to go out that we
want to exterminate the Negro population nineteen thirty nine. She accepted,
here's a quote. I accepted an invitation to talk to
the women's branch of the ku klux Klan. I was
escorted to the platform, introduced, began to speak. In the end,
through simple illustrations, I believe I had accomplished my purpose.

(01:19:53):
A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered,
and yet Marats, blacks, whites, leftists, Oh, Margaret Sayger was wonderful,
Hents planned parenthood and roughly, as you write in the book,
Neil Mammon, I don't know how many, say black babies

(01:20:17):
have we lost? For example two I don't know pood.

Speaker 7 (01:20:22):
Twenty two million is the number of odds of a
few years ago. It's obviously increased now and then twenty
two million, which is actually almost fifty percent of the
African American population. Yep, about forty four million African Americans.
Twenty two million I've been killed.

Speaker 10 (01:20:37):
Well, as you write in the book, it's black genocide
because blacks are Oh god, uh, here's the page I
was looking for.

Speaker 12 (01:20:45):
Oh wait, this is going to be great.

Speaker 10 (01:20:50):
Blacks are what thirteen percent of the population right now,
thirteen fifteen something like that, Yes, and could be infament
in so much more. And you know, I've been listening.
I'll just probably like you well, let me ask you
let me just ask you point blank. This wasn't in
any of my questions over here. You know, man, man,

(01:21:12):
how many times you been Have you been called a racist?
And by whom?

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Well, I actually, I have to admit, they've never said
it to my face, but they have said it to Kevin.
They've called him a white supermassist. So I have it's
been implied that I was a racist. But so here's
the thing that I've learned to do, which is hard
for white people to do. If the person is white,

(01:21:40):
I look at them in the face and I go,
I think that's a racist comment that you just made.

Speaker 16 (01:21:46):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
And it usually stops it right there, because the reality
is that if you attack them back just as vehemently
as they attack you.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
The problem is most people go.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
I'm not a racist.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
That's not the answer. The answer is no, you're the racist.
Let me explain why. It's because you want to kill
black babies. You want blacks not to have a high
literacy rate, you want blacks not to be to be
killed by their own kind, and you go down the
list of things, and as soon as you start doing that,
you've taken a lot of their fire out because not

(01:22:22):
only have you called them a racist but you've also
given them the reasons because you don't care about black people.

Speaker 10 (01:22:29):
Let me ask you this then putting you on the focus.
B Lonnie Poindexter, how many times have you been called
a racist or like Larry Elder, the the black face
of white?

Speaker 12 (01:22:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:22:44):
Geez, how much time do we have?

Speaker 15 (01:22:45):
I've been called a white supremacist as well. So it's
really funny because with my last name being Poindexter, that's
the natural assumption that I must be white, and then
they find out that I have the darker paint job.
It's it's it's pretty interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
But I think I think.

Speaker 15 (01:23:02):
Neil's on point when you respond back with information that
causes in the pause and think sometimes you can turn
turn them to uh something.

Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
I I catch the most heat from clergy, you know.

Speaker 15 (01:23:20):
That's really Oh yeah, yeah, well I know Neil probably
as well, but I definitely get it from black, black clergy.

Speaker 6 (01:23:29):
Yeah yeah, black clergy.

Speaker 15 (01:23:32):
And it's which is why there has to be the
The tools have to be hammered and put together, much
like you'd make a sword, you know, like the old days,
A hammer on that on that metal until they turn
it into a fine blade. And it would be the uh,
the information that we provide with as tools that that

(01:23:56):
Kevin is produced and Neil is produced and their appears,
you know, throughout the folks that have the in my view,
the purple excuse me, the proper worldview.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, you get called on.

Speaker 15 (01:24:10):
Oh here's the one that I really enjoyed being in
d C and having the radio show for a number
of years. Yeah, I used to catch my producer. I
used to used to wear her out because you know,
people want to call into the show so they can
shoot me a new one, and they pretend to be
nice folks, and then when they get the mic, you know,
they would let me have it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
And but the one I used to get the most
often less a.

Speaker 15 (01:24:35):
Lot of fine dexter how much of all of them
rich Republicans paying you to sell out?

Speaker 10 (01:24:43):
And the answer was not enough.

Speaker 7 (01:24:47):
As I as.

Speaker 15 (01:24:48):
I crack open another can of top ramen or or tuna,
you know, tuna in the can, I'm going.

Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
Not as far as I know.

Speaker 15 (01:24:57):
And because just as Neil, it's dated and you reiterated
the BLM organization.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
You know, they all bought multimillion dollar homes and more
than one and I didn't buy any multi million dollar homes.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
All much funny?

Speaker 6 (01:25:19):
Can you for you to sell out your own people
a lot anything?

Speaker 10 (01:25:23):
I'm like, oh, my goodness, Well, this is the story.
This is the part of the book where I said, Gee,
when I get to it, I'm going to refer to it. Well,
here we are, Gee, look, boys and girls on this
book how to stop racism in America. I'm on page
seventy four, and this is basically the crux of the
biscuit right here. And then I've got another question for

(01:25:45):
Neil Mammon directly after and on this you say the
answer to why there is black plight? And then you know,
this is me going. I am an elder ancient O B. S. Dude,
and even I I understood and intuited the thread behind this.
They're six bullet points. And the first one said, and folks,

(01:26:07):
you tell me at home when you see the thread
on this place. Number one, the government did not step
in to protect their inalienable rights. That's the answer is
to wis they're black white? Number two government aid was
designed to destroy the family and remove fathers from the home.
Number three government aid was provided specifically to maintain their
dependency for government unions in the left ensure they stay

(01:26:31):
in failing, gang ridden schools, which has brought their proficiency
literally rate down to seventeen percent. Number five, the government
created things like the minimum wage to prevent them from
being able to grow economically independent. Number six, the government
is effectively paying abortuaries like planned parenthood to keep the
black population under control. Folks, do you see a link

(01:26:55):
throughout all of this seven hundred thousand dollars to the
first person that says the government Neil mammon. Can you
expand on that please?

Speaker 8 (01:27:06):
Yeah, well, I mean you should add one thing. It's
not only the government.

Speaker 7 (01:27:09):
It's as you said, it's also a certain party in
the government that is responsible for each and every one
of these things. By the way, I didn't mention about
the minimum wage. I should add this in a lot
of people don't realize this, but back in the Jim
Crow era, the blacks were doing really well, and they
were getting really really advanced in their skills. Because a

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black person would go to a white racist to own
a contracting company or whatever, a laundry company, and they'd say, hey,
I'll work for half of what a white person would
work for. So green is the best color of all.
And so the white racist contractor would say, I'll be
happy to make twice as much on my contracts. Sure
you can have the job. And so they were taking

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that money and they were going home and they were
developing those skills also, and that's why you had black
lawyers and black banks, and you have black entrance. In fact,
the first insurance companies health insurance companies were started by
black entrepreneurs who said, hey, if you pay as we'll
start this health insurance company and we'll pay for the doctor.
All this stuff was done because they were able to

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bring that money in. Well, the KKAK came around and said,
we can't let these blacks take all these white jobs.

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
You've got to stop them.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
So they would go in and they'd threaten the owners,
and the owners say no, no, yeah, that's fine, that's
why we won't hire them. But then about a few
months later they go, hey, money's too good, we're going
to hire them again. And so they had nothing to
control them. You can't have the monopoly unless you have
the government enforcing it. And so they basically said, the
only way we can do this we have to have
a minimum wage. And so The origin of minimum wage

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was racism. In fact, it had worked really well in
Canada just previously to stop the Chinese from taking white
Canadian jobs, and so they brought it here and they
said work there, It's got to work here, and so
they were able to then install the minimum wage, and
the minimum wage today is still what key's black Americans,
because if you have a seventeen percent literacy rate, I

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mean you can't read, you can't write, you can do
the stock, you can probably not add and subtract properly.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
How are you going to get a job paying twenty
five percent? So you're going to get a job paying
zero because you're not going to get a job. If
there was no.

Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
Minimum wage, you could go in and the guy would say, look,
you're not worth much to me because you can't read
it right. But if you start working here at five
bucks an hour, you can end up learning the skills
and then soon you'll be worth ten bucks, and then
you'll be worth fifteen bucks, and soon you'll be worth
fifty bucks because you're running the whole thing. But they
will never get that chance. And in the book I

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explained that I actually did that and one of my
startup companies. We didn't have an IT guide and we
didn't have any money to pay the IT guide. So
I went to our youth group, a high school group,
and I said, hey, guys, some of you guys are techies.
You understand it, you can learn. Come on over.

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
I can't pay you a down, but I'll buy you
pizza every night. They were like, I'm there.

Speaker 7 (01:29:55):
And I had these free layer for free working for
me for pizza. It would work, you know, they'd come in,
we'd have a problem, they'd fix and they put in
their wiring, all the ethernet and everything that we needed
to And one day one of the guys said, can
you pay me? I said, yeah, we might be able
to pay a little.

Speaker 8 (01:30:12):
He says, well, I want this much. I'm like, well
that's a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:30:14):
He goes, well, the guy next door, the company next door, offered.

Speaker 6 (01:30:18):
Me that much money.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
I said, well, we'll pay it. We'll pay why because
he now knew all those skills and could do it well.
And a few years ago. That conclusion of the story
is a few years ago, I was on LinkedIn and
I saw that this guy had become the chief information
officer of a major Christian university, Oh and I said, congratulations.

Speaker 8 (01:30:41):
He said, I want you to remind you that I
started this working for you for pizza.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
Pizza.

Speaker 10 (01:30:46):
Wow, that is so wonderful. Okay, so chapter eleven, I'm
in your book. By the way, folks, we're talking to
Neil mannon this is his book, How to Stop Racism
in America, A real solution for African American plight. I
got a fairly good dent in my tabs so far.
So there's there's still I got. We got another half

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hour ago or so. I also want to remind everybody,
if you would please, that.

Speaker 12 (01:31:11):
We are this conservative media done right. You're listening to
the s HR media network.

Speaker 10 (01:31:21):
And the question in this chapter is why is their
bias against blacks? And then you start with that Jesse
Jackson quote again, and so why is there bias? One
of the things you say is but blacks can't succeed
in America due to the color of their skin, and
that's racism. Do you agree or disagree? Pill mammon, Well, you.

Speaker 7 (01:31:46):
Have to understand, jessic Well, I start with the beginning
of the book. I actually start with the story in
a what I call the fast mark. It's it's a
market and you know, East Falter used to be the
skang written now he's Fellata is taken over by Facebook.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
So it's one of the richest places in the country.

Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
But it used to be the.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
Gang center of Silicon Valley. And right across the bridge
was pal Alta, which was one of the richest parts
of Silica Valley. Yeah. Well, I do the story, and
I'm going about this this quick mark that's in right
on the edge of the boundary. And these four boys
come in and the clerk, who is black, doesn't even

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look at the four boys. They come in. They're young,
they're all boisterous, and they take they buy what they
want and they leave. But then a few minutes later
the clerk sees four more boys and now she calls
the guy in the back room says, watch the cameras
do all this. And she's black. And the difference, I
say is the first four boys were Indians.

Speaker 6 (01:32:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (01:32:52):
The second set of four boys were black. What's the difference, Well,
because Indians don't have a history of robbing stores or
being in gangs. In fact, they've got a culture that's
so strong that they would be the last person to.

Speaker 8 (01:33:08):
Embarrass their parents. I'm not going to embarrass my parents.

Speaker 7 (01:33:11):
And I said in the book the four black boys
were also Silken Valley boys. Their fathers were also engineers,
just like the Indians father of engineers. But the girl
the counter didn't know that because she wasn't looking at
their pedigree. She was just saying, they're black.

Speaker 8 (01:33:27):
They fit all the.

Speaker 7 (01:33:29):
Crime statistics and everything, and I saw. So my point
is that, look, if you see black people doing crimes,
then you see black people in the gangs, and you
see black people on this, you're going to naturally associate,
just like Jesse Jackson did that there's something wrong with
a person just because he's black.

Speaker 17 (01:33:47):
Now, if Christians, sorry, if Indians were going around stealing things,
it would apply to Indians to every time I walk
into store, they'd be looking at Oh, he's an Indian,
I'd better watch them, right, But there's no history of
Indians doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:34:00):
Now, don't get me wrong. There are many Indians who
are robbers and thieves in India. They just most of
them don't make it over here. Now. The guys who
make it over are the guys the seakh drivers who
shouldn't be driving, don't know speak English and are.

Speaker 8 (01:34:12):
Killing people.

Speaker 10 (01:34:15):
Give it a firm thuggies.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Thugiese right, well almost, yeah those are Hindlians, but yeah,
close enough. So what will happened is what will happened
is in a few years a time, somebody sees a
Sikh with a turbine driving a car. They're going to go,
oh my gosh, I better watch out for this guy. Right,
Wyas gets built by the experience of the people. So
is it a bias against blas? Absolutely? But why is

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it a bias against black? Is because of the literacy rates,
because of the gangs. It's because of the violence, is
because of the attacks and all that, and that's what
we have to work against. How do you stop that?

Speaker 10 (01:34:51):
I'm going to go ahead to chapter, forward to chapter thirteen,
and I was kind of surprised to see this, and
yet not when I began to think about it. Chapter
thirteen says, if not socialism, then what Okay, we're bringing
socialism into the picture. How is that applicable? And you right,
we've spent multiple chapters attacking government charity also known as socialism.

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In this chapter, we need to address a few key
questions that may have arisen in your mind. Number one,
why doesn't socialism work. And number two, if the government
is not supposed to take care of the poor, who
does or who is? So first Neil mammon, why doesn't
socialism work?

Speaker 7 (01:35:34):
Well, first of all, people think of socialism as the
officer of fascism and they go, yeah, well, there's fascists
and their socialist, there's the two right wingers and left wingers. Well,
the reality is that there has never been a famous
socialist in that's sorry, a fascist in history that wasn't socialist.
Think about it, Hitler most famous right winger, socialist, Nazi socialist.

Speaker 8 (01:35:56):
They're like, well, but he was a nationalist.

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
So fine, Let's look at Missolini. He was a socialist.
Look at d I mean, you know, if you guys
are old enough, he was in Uganda, he was a dictator,
he was a fascist and a socialist. Look at Saddam
h saying he was a Bath Party socialist, because fai
Is Alasad he was a Bath Party socialist. I mean,
you can go down the list. They're all socialists. Even
Caesar was a socialist.

Speaker 6 (01:36:18):
Why.

Speaker 7 (01:36:19):
Because you can't get power without promising the masses bread
and circuses. Right, nobody's going to give you power unless
you give them something, so they're going to follow you.
You're going to take power. That's how you become a dictator. Now,
what is the difference between a fascist and a socialist. Well,
fascism is one step before socialism. In fascism, the government

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tells the private party what to do with their business.
In socialism, the government owns the companies. In fascism, private
parties own the government. In socialism, governments owned the companies.
And so this is what most people don't understand. Now,
don't get me wrong. Every time I talk to somebody
that'll go, well, you're just capitalist, I'm like, capitalism doesn't

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go anywhere.

Speaker 8 (01:37:02):
In socialism, you.

Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
Still need capital. The difference is capitalism now is owned
by the government. Now, let me ask you this, and
usually I'm talking to a liberal, I go let me
ask you this. Do you want Donald Trump to own
all the capitals in this country? Well, obviously you don't.
Why so why would you want? Socialism does not mean
there's no capitalism. There is still capitalism. It's just the

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capitalists now owned by an elite group of politicians, and
if they get too powerful, you'll never be old about them. Now,
that's the first reason why socialism doesn't work. The second
reason why it doesn't work is because we have.

Speaker 8 (01:37:42):
We are we have what we call the seven deadly sins.

Speaker 7 (01:37:46):
Right, the Bible clearly says that we are all greedy, gluttonous,
and lazy. And socialism counts on everybody working as hard
as it can and only taking what they need. Reality,
nobody works as hard as they can. They do the opposite.
They work as little as they can and they take
as much as they can, right, And so what happens

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is you end up with less work, less productivity, less goods,
and more consumption. In fact, there's a lot of waste
of consumption. And what happens, you know, the great example
is that if you've ever seen that meme, In socialists
and commerce countries, people wait for bread and they show
this long amount of people trying to buy bread. In
capitalist countries, bread weights for people, and you see the

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supermarket full of bread waiting to be bought. That's the
difference between capitalism and socialism. It doesn't work because of
human nature. We briefly touched on human nature. Man is
essentially evil, man's sin nature. Man is deprayed. Man was greedy, gluttonous, lazy,
seven delicens, envy, pride go through it right, seven dediccents.

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This describes what mankind is, who they are. So none
of this works, and it will only work and it's
very inefficiently. Thing about socialism it's inefficient is that it
turns out that if you give the government a dollar
in taxes to spend on welfare or something, only fifteen
cents gets to the poor person. But if you give

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a dollar to a charity, a non government charity that
doesn't work with the government, then eighty five cents gets
to the poor person. So charities, private charities are six
times more efficient. And if you don't want if you
see a charity that's not that efficient, you don't need
to give it to them.

Speaker 8 (01:39:30):
If you decide the government is not that efficient, they
will take.

Speaker 7 (01:39:32):
Care of you. They will put you in a nice
patted sell for avoiding taxes.

Speaker 8 (01:39:37):
And they will take care of you.

Speaker 7 (01:39:39):
Right, So you don't have that option. Governments are just
six times less efficient than private So socialism doesn't work
that way. And finally, the main thing that socialism doesn't
work is because it takes away the need for people
to strive. I don't know if many people realize this
but the average age of people dying after retirement is

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seven years, seven years after time spent for people dying
after retirement is seven years. Why because they're not stressing
about life, They're not striving for something, they're not looking
forward to something. So nobody should have ever retire. She'll
always be doing something new, some new passion, doing something great.
I mean when you might retire from one job, but
then you need a new job whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:40:21):
That is.

Speaker 8 (01:40:21):
So in the same what socialism does. It allows people
to retire.

Speaker 7 (01:40:26):
And as somebody commented and reminded me, as Margaret Sacho says,
socialism only works until you.

Speaker 8 (01:40:31):
Run out of other people's money. And there's lots of
arguments against socialism, but we'll stop there.

Speaker 10 (01:40:36):
Well, woo hoo. I retired in twenty sixteen, and I
beat the odds of seven years because it's something it's
almost ten years for me.

Speaker 7 (01:40:46):
So you have a passion, you are reasonably in the
morning on that.

Speaker 10 (01:40:51):
Anyway, again, I remind everybody I'm talking to Neil Mammon.

Speaker 7 (01:40:54):
He is.

Speaker 10 (01:40:56):
Let's see right over there, there's Neil. There, there's Lonnie
Poindexter right there, there's me with the fat guy. Anyway,
how to stop racism in America. I got the book.
You can get the book. I don't get any cut
out of this. I'm not doing it for the money,
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I only put

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people on and books that I believe in, and people
that I believe in. Then that's why ole ma'am, it
is here tonight. Go ahead, sir. You were going to
say so, I wanted.

Speaker 7 (01:41:25):
To answer the second part of that, if the government
doesn't take care of people, who should take care of people? Yes,
the very concept of people of who should take care
of the people goes back to the Bible. Jesus said,
didn't say force your neighbor to take care of the poor.

Speaker 18 (01:41:43):
He said, you take care of the poor. He said,
give the shirt off your back to the poor, not
the shirt off your neighbors back to the poor. Right,
he didn't say, because socialism is nothing more than forcing
a neighbor to pay for your favorite charity. Well, why
is your charity the Moslim borg? Why is feeding the
poor and most important? Maybe doing something else is more
important and more efficient.

Speaker 7 (01:42:04):
So the best person, the best group of people to
take care of the poor turned out to be the church. Now,
when I first said this to people, people said, well,
well that's not possible. I said, the church.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:42:18):
In fact, I had a bunch of people laugh at
me when I said, well, the church needs to be
the source of charity. And this guy turned me. He says,
you're crazy. He says, last year our budget for welfare
was something like one point two trillion dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:42:30):
Are you telling me that the church can handle it?

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
I said no. I said, first of all, we don't
need to spend one point two trillion dollars. We only
need to spend about two hundred billion, because we're six
times more efficient than the government. Right.

Speaker 8 (01:42:42):
And he's laughed.

Speaker 7 (01:42:43):
He said, okay, well two hundred billion. How are you
going to raise two hundred billion? I said, well, I
think that's quite easy. Actually goes, yeah, your church is
going to raise one about I said yeah, because last
year our church, all the churches put together, mainly conservative conservatives,
gave almost four hundred and seventy billion dollars to charity,
seventy billion dollars to Turney. So if we wanted to
add two hundred billion more, all we have to do

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is give fifty percent more and I'll tell you how
we can give fifty percent more.

Speaker 8 (01:43:09):
The easiest way to give fifty percent more is.

Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
That for every dollar you give to a genuine charity
that takes care of the poor, you get two dollars
in tax right offs. Now what does that do. The
government saves money and loses thirty cents on every dollar
at the most right because you've got that if your
tax rate is at thirty percent, you don't have to

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pay thirty cents more in taxes. Yet they got an
extra dollar, which is six dollars worth of benefits. And
we would solve this problem overnight. Now I don't mean
overnight like you know, but you've got to still brain
unbrainwash the people who are so dependent.

Speaker 8 (01:43:50):
You can talk about the snap.

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
Benefits and EBT and all that that's coming out, but
the reality is that we've got to get them out
of this. And part of that, by the way, and
I just want to throw this in here, is getting
people out public schools.

Speaker 12 (01:44:02):
So we.

Speaker 7 (01:44:05):
Especially black kids. So that brings you to the CEO Act.
But there's another thing that we did. If you want
to put this up there, bus is if you go
to revive Academies dot Com, we have started what we
call the uber of school, and this will take participation
with churches. It turns out that most churches don't want

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to start a school because they don't want to mess
with Osha or the government coming in or HR and
all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:44:33):
They don't want to mess with any of that. So
what we do is we allow churches to go.

Speaker 7 (01:44:39):
If you go to rive academies, you can start school
in your church as a ministry, so you don't make
any money of it. But your classroom, let's say you
have five classrooms. You go onto the bedside, you say
you have five classrooms, and then a tutor homeschool mom
who's homeschooling her own kids can say, hey, I live
near that church, I would like to take one of
these classrooms. So and then pair whose kids are in

(01:45:01):
public schools but can afford to homeschool because both of
them work, they can now pay twenty five dollars a
day and drop their kids off at that homeschool that
was just started with a tutor, and it's only forty
five hundred dollars a year if they go through the whole,
If they.

Speaker 8 (01:45:18):
Go five days a week.

Speaker 7 (01:45:19):
A lot of times moms may have a few days
off work, you know, because they have they can work remotely,
and which kids they only go three days away, in
which case it drops about twenty four hundred dollars a year.
That's for a full year of tuition. And homeschooling is
the pre mirror of education. Homeschool kids are in such
a high percentile rate that they are blowing everybody out

(01:45:40):
of the water. So homeschool is the best education you
can get, and we're going to and so we decide
that we got to do this for black kids, white kids,
every kid.

Speaker 8 (01:45:48):
Any church that has free space, they can do this.

Speaker 7 (01:45:51):
And the parents pay the teachers directly, just like an
uberb just pay them directly. And so the parents the
teachers are not how by the church. The teachers are
contractors and they are ten nine nine contractors. Which also
means that the teacher can write off all their car,
their computers, their apartment, you know, their office in their own,

(01:46:12):
their electricity, their water, all that stuff they can write
off if their tax if they do it correctly. And
here's a great thing. They teach twenty five kids. They
don't have to If you teach twenty five kids, a
homeschool mom can make ninety thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 10 (01:46:27):
Holy Moley wasn't aware of that. Let me tell everybody
this though. Also the things that you see here tonight,
for example, look like this, and the other locations that
I put up with in terms of websites will all
be available to be seen if you go to my
rumble channel I put up in my you know, give

(01:46:48):
me a couple of hours to assemble everything here. But
if you missed any of the videos or the websites
or anything like that, go to the SHR group rumble
channel on rum type. Go to rumble type in shr media.
In there you'll see BZ Saloon. You'll see this show.
Click on that. All the show links will be in there,

(01:47:10):
including all this websites that Neil spoke of Lonnie spoke of.
It's not like they've disappeared and you can never find
them again. I intentionally do that so that you can
in fact find them again. And that brings me to
chapter fourteen, and you delineate, Neil Mammon, what won't work

(01:47:31):
to fix black Plight. There's a list of things, and
then maybe you can address some of these. Neil Mammon.
Number one is imagining that slavery causes genetic retardation. Two
critical race theory. Three accusatory and divisive DEI training four reparations.

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Five calling things like punctuality, mathematics, diligence, good grammar, all
white supremacy and encouraging black kids to reject those things. Six.
Blaming racism or white supremacy for everything. Seven, calling everything racism,
eight wokeism. Nine subsidizing and promote promoting abortion. Ten rewriting

(01:48:15):
history e g. The sixteen nineteen project, eleven blaming whites
or asking them to apologize twelve promoting victimhood thirteen calling
everything a micro aggression. As I've termed it for years,
it's the hierarchy of victimhood. So Neil mammon, if you
could address some of those particular issues.

Speaker 7 (01:48:35):
Yeah, I mean the first thing is that there's some
as I said, there and I've seen this so many times,
there's some crazy idea that slavery causes tarnation. What you know,
and this isn't a racist attitude. Oh you're black and
you're a son of a slave, so something's wrong with you.
I mean, can you think of the height of racism?
I can't.

Speaker 8 (01:48:54):
I mean, it's a horrible critical race theory.

Speaker 7 (01:48:57):
Obviously, you know critical race theories basically right out of
liberation theology, right out of Marxism and the whole idea
of separating people into oppressors and oppress sees. It's a
victim mentality, right, it's just codifying the victim hood mentality. Oh,
I'm an oppressed I'm oppressed, see, so therefore I am

(01:49:18):
morally correct. So basically, google race theory says, if you're oppressed,
then you are morally correct. If you're an oppressor, it
doesn't matter what you say, you're wrong. And this I
always use this to my benefit of being brown skinned
in a white society. I was once on a flight
in this lady and I was teaching about critical race
theory and she said, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:49:38):
Agree with that.

Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
I said, well, I'm brown, so I'm automatically right. She goes, oh,
I said, problem with the situation.

Speaker 8 (01:49:53):
You didn't want to talk anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:49:56):
Right, So there's a.

Speaker 7 (01:49:57):
Bunch of And then again, reparation reparations are not going
to work. And as Kevin said, Neil, if they have reparations.

Speaker 8 (01:50:05):
Will you apply. I'm African American, so I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
No, it's only for slaves.

Speaker 8 (01:50:11):
But somewhere in my history there was slavery.

Speaker 7 (01:50:14):
Almost every culture had slavery, right, so, somewhere in my
history of slavery, how does this work?

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:50:20):
So? And then the whole thing about branding white racism
a white ship for everything, this is not, I mean again,
this is all you're doing, is you're going back to
your victimry. So it goes through that. And then the
calling everything a microaggression. You know, gosh, people are not
going to want to hang around you.

Speaker 10 (01:50:40):
Ye, good God. And the other three things that unfortunately
I didn't see until I turned the page. Fourteen these
are important. Fourteen rioting and burning down buildings, especially in
black areas of town. What I never understood that fifteen

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lowering standards for schools, colleges or anything for that matter.
Sixteen giving special references to blacks.

Speaker 7 (01:51:11):
Yeah, those are self evident. Obviously, when Antifa went in,
you noticed they didn't go into the high end white
areas of the liberals. They went into the black areas.
Why because they knew that the police would leave them alone.
And then, of course, lowering standards for schools and colleges.
Do you want kids to be less employed, less able?
To offend for themselves and giving special preference to the backs.

(01:51:34):
The problems is exactly that when you start giving it's
more of the de I think, where you start giving
people privileges that they're.

Speaker 8 (01:51:42):
Not capable of handling, right, and all they do. Is
a great example I don't really talk about in the book.

Speaker 7 (01:51:49):
A great example is that when they first started doing
DEI tech policies, or even certain policies in the past,
where a kid who was maybe a three point zero
would be admitted to Harvard or Yale's. And then this
is before and Harvard and Neale really were Harvard Neale
nowther you don't learn anything there. He would go to

(01:52:11):
a tough college like that, and it would be so
tough that he would drop out. And here's a kid
who could have gone to a regular college and could
have gotten a good job, could have done well. But
instead he's a loser because he was pushed into an
area that he was not capable of anling, you know.
And there are reasons why those colleges were at high

(01:52:33):
academic standards, because they were really rigorous. Now of course
that's all gone, and you could go to Harvard just
and do nothing. You can get underwater, basket leaving and
Harvard probably. Of course, I don't know what to do
with that degree when you graduated except complaining.

Speaker 10 (01:52:48):
Well, yeah, or go to Starbucks and pulls a handle
that sounds like a honey badger vomiting. Here's a circular
firing squad problem that you mentioned earlier, and it's uh,
page one. You're right, but today the problem isn't really
these old intentional types of racism. Today, the new and

(01:53:09):
perhaps unintentional racist actions are the government and legal actions
that keep blacks dependent. And then you also mention, but
calling folks who haven't a racist bone in their body
a racist is only going to create rifts and tensions
and make things work. And people say leftists, demo rats.

(01:53:34):
They say, oh, we cannot forgive, we cannot, you can
never forget racism. And then, according to what you say,
Neil Mammon, this is the circular argument that solves nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:53:51):
The reality is America is the least racist country I've
ever lived in.

Speaker 8 (01:53:55):
And you've seen the number of countries I've lived in.

Speaker 7 (01:53:57):
Right to make Jamaica, gan In, Ethiopia, Yemen, Sedan, Right,
it's the least racist country. In fact, India is more
racist uh than uh than America. Funny you know, there's
a funny story about.

Speaker 8 (01:54:13):
Indians.

Speaker 7 (01:54:14):
You know when when when uh what's his name? Prince
Harry had a son with gosh, what's her name?

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:54:27):
No, no, the she's half black Megan Markets.

Speaker 7 (01:54:33):
There was some comment made about the British were wondering
how dark the child?

Speaker 8 (01:54:38):
Were right, and the Indians on Facebook were like how.

Speaker 7 (01:54:43):
Dark is how the question how fair is the cheld?
The question that every grandmother asks, because even Indians have
this wider is better kind of attitude, right, because they
think that if you're lighter than your your it's better,
it's more beautiful. And that came from the ari because
India will used to be predominantly Dravidian's darker race. The

(01:55:04):
Aryans came in from the Germanic tribes came in and
took go r India and so they brought their leagism
in them.

Speaker 8 (01:55:10):
So you can see that. But India is a.

Speaker 7 (01:55:12):
Very racist country. I mean, talk about a country where
caste system exists. You want to talk about racism, that's India.
Go to the African sorry, go to the Middle Eastern countries.
It's it's sexist, racist, it's religious cysts.

Speaker 8 (01:55:30):
What do you want to call it?

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:55:32):
If you're not a Muslim, you're nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:55:34):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:55:34):
So when I came to America, I can truly see say,
when I came to America, there wasn't a single American
family that that I found to be racist that I
that I interacted with. Now, there weren't the jerks on
the street you know that were jerks, but they were

(01:55:56):
just mean. They were just jerks. They weren't racist to Turks.

Speaker 8 (01:56:01):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:56:01):
So, yeah, there are other races in America. Absolutely, But
are they every day everywhere?

Speaker 8 (01:56:06):
Absolutely?

Speaker 10 (01:56:07):
Now there's one more thing that I want to get
to and that I've seen or heard. You're the only
individual that has put this in a book that I've read,
and as far as I know, none of the American
media maggots will even remotely address this. It's got to

(01:56:29):
be what is in my consideration. And Lannie, i'd like
you to weigh in on this when I when I
mention it, this would piss me and torque me off
to no end. And you mention it in your book
and it's on page eight, and let me see if
I can put that up there. It's called infantilization. It's

(01:56:54):
if that isn't Some of the most demeaning, insulting things
that you can think of is how people how American
blacks are treated as though they are infants and don't

(01:57:17):
have a brain in their head. And you write in
terms of this, beware the disguise of benevolence lowering standards
in essence infantilizes black individuals. So few people talk about this,
Neil mammon, please please hit on that if you would.

Speaker 7 (01:57:37):
Well, first of all, I want to I want to
credit my co founder Kevin McGarry. He's the one who
came up with that word. And we've talked about Lonnie
has heard. We've talked about this a lot. So basically,
if you say the blacks can't get a driver's license,
so to vote, are you saying you're saying they're incapable
of getting a driver's license.

Speaker 8 (01:57:57):
I mean, they've never.

Speaker 7 (01:57:58):
Rented a car, they've they're all driving illegally. Uh, they've
never gone into a hotel room, checking a hotel room.
They've never flown on a plane. This is in fatalizing them.
And the very statement should make you realize that the
person who is saying that is a racist, and it
goes through this whole thing. You know we were in fact, Oh,
they're not capable of learning mathematics, they're not capable of

(01:58:21):
learning physics, so therefore we shouldn't require this level of
mathematic They're not capable of reading English properly, so we
should let them graduate without being able to It's all
in fatalization, and it's pure racism. It's what it is.
In fact. That's what when when if somebody accuses you
being a racist, you could say what you don't think
boxing you can get a driver's license. You don't think
backs are capable of learning English. You don't think backs

(01:58:43):
are capable of mathematics or even learning good mather matters.
You want to let them bypass the entire system. You're
the racist because you think that they're incapable of.

Speaker 10 (01:58:53):
Wannie. Does that not piss you off to no end?

Speaker 7 (01:58:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:58:56):
Did? Jean Dallson notes as he was saying that, oh,
my god reminds me of.

Speaker 15 (01:59:02):
And well you sulln't never remember this Oakland, California back
in the day when uh, it was determined that because
blacks couldn't speak and I used the term King James
English the term ebonics.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
Was to.

Speaker 6 (01:59:22):
Yeah the E word, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 10 (01:59:26):
And I grew up.

Speaker 6 (01:59:28):
Oh, what's his name? Actually, think of the name of
the actor.

Speaker 15 (01:59:30):
He's the black actor that played the love interest to uh,
one of the Cosby girls daughters in the Cosby TV show.

Speaker 6 (01:59:39):
And I forget his name. I can picture his face.
And he wrote a book years ago.

Speaker 15 (01:59:46):
He's a conservative, got beat up a lot, so he's
kind of shied away from all that.

Speaker 6 (01:59:50):
He's a business person now.

Speaker 15 (01:59:52):
But he wrote a book and the title of the
book it says he talked like a white boy. So
because he was cost only accused of speaking like a
white person, as if there's some kind of difference between
black and white. And when I grew up in southern California,
in the community I grew up in, I remember the.

Speaker 6 (02:00:17):
Terms I used to use my mother. If there was
a certain way we spoke, different words and certain words
we'd use.

Speaker 15 (02:00:24):
If my mom was an armshot of us, we'd catch
a backhand, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:00:30):
So I'm gonna say it, where as well before I
say what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 15 (02:00:34):
And because we were taught to speak a certain way,
and that's when I learned early on your ability to
articulate your thoughts in a compelling way is I think
the prime primary determiner on whether you can.

Speaker 6 (02:00:49):
Be gainfully employed in the business community.

Speaker 15 (02:00:52):
And so I learned early on because I was accused
often of talking like ohh boy. And so this goes
along with that that same mindset and needs to in
sense me, I was with a childhood friend. Okay, I'm
going down a rabbit hole, make it short. Sure, a

(02:01:13):
childhood friend I grew knowing almost my entire life started
a computer company at Irvine, California. And the computer company
was in a community that I don't know if we
measured one percent of the population as being black. This

(02:01:33):
is in Orange County in southern California. And we were
told that we would never be successful with all the
white people down there. And well, we went on to
be successful when we grew that business from a garage
business into a corporate entity, and we had about nineteen

(02:01:54):
twenty employees and our ninety nine point nine percent of
our our client base were white folk. And so how
do we become successful in that? Well, he could compel
his thoughts in a compelling way.

Speaker 6 (02:02:13):
He spoke like I did.

Speaker 15 (02:02:15):
Well, he was raised like that, And we came from
a community where we all spoke that way because that's
the way that our parents taught us. If you want
it to be successful, you know, you can't speak like
Snoop Dogg and all, well, I put it out there.

Speaker 6 (02:02:30):
And the rest of it. He there.

Speaker 15 (02:02:31):
Now he's getting paid millions of dollars today. But there
was a ah, okay, I'm going down the rebell.

Speaker 6 (02:02:36):
Let me stop. But yeah, this thing is is it?

Speaker 15 (02:02:40):
I can get me going and I can go on
for a while and talking about this thing. Yeah, and
where does this come from?

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
So you have.

Speaker 15 (02:02:49):
Oh boy, what's what's the politician meal that? And she
was she's running for office, and she was stating that
blacks for like somebody that you know when you okay,
if you have a disability or something like that.

Speaker 7 (02:03:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, gosh.

Speaker 10 (02:03:08):
Oh. She compared it to the A d A.

Speaker 6 (02:03:13):
Yes, this just happens.

Speaker 15 (02:03:15):
Oh and that's no different than the evonics thing that
happened in Oakland, California. And you know know ebonics is
now a term that's used. It's in books and textbooks
and everything else.

Speaker 10 (02:03:25):
Now see that that came from Scotus. If you remember,
that's Katanji Brown Jackson mentioned that sitting on scotis she's
a jurist, yes, and says that essentially there, you know
what other interpretation is there to be removed, to be
culled from that other than I'm sorry. Blacks are disabled

(02:03:47):
and they need all the help because the disabling obviously
means mentally. So how do you how do you how
do you believe come to that conclusion? You're sitting on
the highest court in the land.

Speaker 19 (02:04:08):
Yes, stop, Oh my god, talk about daft.

Speaker 10 (02:04:22):
The adjectives, Uh, they're up in the air floating around me,
and most of them I can't repeat here. I could
grab one or two, but I think I've.

Speaker 6 (02:04:31):
Summed it up.

Speaker 10 (02:04:32):
That's just stupid.

Speaker 12 (02:04:34):
Yeah, heavy sigh.

Speaker 10 (02:04:39):
Well, you know what, it's past the magic witching hour.
So that's it for tonight, kids. I want to thank
my great guest tonight, Neil Mammon. And I want to
thank my other great guest tonight, Lonnie Poindexter. And just
as I suspect, I didn't get to a fraction of

(02:05:02):
the stuff that's in here, but I'm going to get
your other book. I have already ordered it, and when
it comes in i'd like to have you back on
that roundtable discussion thing that we spoke about earlier with
regard to religion. And see that's the other thing, Neil Mammont.
We didn't even really get to religion. No, we didn't

(02:05:25):
tonight at all, and my favorite topic. Yeah, and I
can't make these four hour shows, although I did make
the other one with religion a three hour show. But
I got to have you back for that. I have
to have you back in order to speak to religion
in general, and then also with regard to religion in
America and also the influence of Islam that we're discovering,

(02:05:47):
discovering it's been here for so long. With regard to
the UK, which is going away and the assault by Islam.
As far as I'm concerned in the United States of America,
Dearborn is gone, ham traffic is gone, the assault on
Texas is ongoing. There's so many things and so many

(02:06:09):
areas to cover. And then, of course, if I can
put this up, I also want to have you back
to discuss your book. This Jesus is involved in politics
and quite frankly, my great disappointment in organized religions and

(02:06:30):
my great disappointment in pastors, including some that I've met
in Idaho who just don't seem to get the contact.
They don't grock the concept that you may not be
interested in politics, but politics is always always interested in you,

(02:06:53):
no matter if you are, no matter if you're affiliated
or running religious operations. You think you can stand back
and hold it at arm's length, and that cannot be done.

Speaker 8 (02:07:05):
So let me let me give you one more resource. Yes, sir,
my churchfinder dot org dot com dot org, Yes you can.

Speaker 7 (02:07:14):
It's a it's a website I created with a gentleman
named Roger Elswick who's funding it, that basically allows you
to find the churches that are politically active, culturally aware,
and biblically sound. Now we don't have enough there, so
there's an invite your pastor option that invites your pastor

(02:07:35):
to fill out our survey. Because every church fills out
their own survey and then we list them. So we
don't have too many. We've got a bunch of boise.
I don't think you have any over by your neck
its bus. We do have a bunch in southern California.
So but go in there, invite your pastor to fill
out the form and in actually within a month, we

(02:07:56):
will actually be going automatically to websites that you recommend,
and we will review the last fifty two sermons all
years with the sermons by AI and determine whether you
are politically active, culturally aware, talk about abortion and talk
about homosexuality, and if you're biblically sound.

Speaker 6 (02:08:15):
Oh oh oh, neil mammon.

Speaker 10 (02:08:19):
That appears to be so incredibly delicious. Can you imagine
can you imagine the pastoral butts that will be lit
a flame when it's discovered that, oh, we're on that list.
That's maybe we'd better get our own personal, very personal
butts in line with teachings and with as as I

(02:08:44):
said before we got onto the show, I said, why
and how is it that so many people, pastors churches
cannot understand the linkage between say, Islam and freedom and
politics and your your very personal intimate ability to conduct

(02:09:09):
your religion in your church in freedom in the United
States of America. How do you not make that linkage?
How do you not get that concept? That's uh, yeah,
there we go. It's the thrug, the shrug of the shoulders, Like,
I don't know, how is that possible?

Speaker 15 (02:09:31):
And we I don't think we covered this, or maybe
we did because I had to jump off a little bit, but.

Speaker 6 (02:09:39):
I want I also mentioned that every.

Speaker 15 (02:09:43):
Black Life Matters or every DLM dot com is the
five on one C three nonprofits, So if you happen
to visit the site, you can donate there as well.

Speaker 6 (02:09:52):
If you value the work that.

Speaker 15 (02:09:56):
At the organization and the brilliant work that Neil Kevin
based on the vision that they put together at the
uh suggestion of of of Neil's Lovely Bride, it's it's
it's valuable work. I've traveled to them across the country
for many speaking engagements.

Speaker 6 (02:10:14):
That they've done, and it's pretty powerful.

Speaker 15 (02:10:18):
And when they do get a church, that'll give them
the pulpit, so to speak, and to illustrate a lot
of what we're talking about today, ort least some of it.
It has changed some hearts and minds in terms of
folks understanding that, yes, Jesus was very much involved with politics.
It cost him his life and his first and his

(02:10:38):
first cousin John. A lot of folks don't make that
connections as politics is why he was killed and they're
mean nose. Yeah, yeah, anyway, you guys know me I'll
go down that rabbit hole, but it's important, So just
keep that in mind. You go to every BLM dot
com and you can learn about the uh the projects

(02:10:58):
that we're involved with. And and they've always look, let
me tell you something, DZ sitting in on the conference
calls with them, I'm always here comes something else we're
going to be doing because they get the vision for
something that they see that's important.

Speaker 6 (02:11:17):
And so they've launched several platforms, some of which was
covered today.

Speaker 15 (02:11:20):
There's more that was not covered for just want to
keep in mind for your viewership that they can learn more.
Just go to EVERYBLM dot com, go to neils platforms
as go off for the work that he's doing. Oh
let me mention this and Neil, I don't know if
you cover this because I had to jump off a
couple of times. If you want to see what Jesus

(02:11:44):
would do and is doing because we know that we
are okay, I want to start preaching here. Meill was
involved with a church in northern California that pushed back
on COVID.

Speaker 6 (02:12:01):
And show that you can do that and succeed. They
tried to shut the church down guaranteed and.

Speaker 15 (02:12:12):
Neil, because you know, Neil's not gonna brag about himself,
but he was intricately involved with with this taking place,
and I was I was like whoa. And government backed off.
So the big ugly deal role of the government can
be in intimidating you. They had to back off, and
because simply because because the church stood up.

Speaker 20 (02:12:34):
No you want to mention the name of the Yeah,
so we were going we were actually going to a
different church and they all shut down for COVID and
my friend Mike McLure Santase Calvin Chapel.

Speaker 7 (02:12:47):
My wife said we got to go to a real church.
We're not going to this wimpy zoom church. So I said, well,
I bet cal cha. Mike mcluy he's a fighter, he'll
he'll stay open. So sure enough that day he announced
me they were going to back and we called the
finest church in the world because we had four million
dollars in fines. That's the finest church. But the church

(02:13:07):
when we'd gone. When we joined the church, there were
about two hundred and twenty people. By eight months later
there are almost twenty five hundred people. Because everybody who
needed a church and the non Christians there was a
lot of suicides amongst non Christians, so this was a
church where people would have family and have support.

Speaker 8 (02:13:25):
A lot of people said that they were We had
one person say there were.

Speaker 7 (02:13:29):
She was on their way to commit suicide and she
saw that the people on the parking lot on a Sunday,
so she walked in and gave her life to Christ.
So you can see that it had a powerful impact
and the church fought to you know the last thing
that I mean, I it's you know, it's a battle
that goes back and forth, back and forth. But the
last thing in the county was like, look, we'll forgive

(02:13:51):
you all these things if you just say that, if
you just say you were wrong. And the lawyer said, no,
I don't think we to do that. In fact, I
want you to remember that you said you were going
to try and just bar me. You're going to try
and put the pastor in jail. No, this is going
all the way to the Supreme Court, and you will
pay us. Is this it? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:14:12):
Okay, then there you go. Folks you're in San Jose.
You might want to go take a peek at him
and go partake. And again, folks, I want to remind
everybody that all the events, all the websites that one
and some of the others prior mentioned by Lannie and
also by Neil Mammon are going to be in the

(02:14:36):
Rumble dot com version under show links for this particular show.
So if you think, oh I missed him, No you
didn't miss him. You know, give me a couple hours
put that stuff in there and you'll be able to
find all of those links. So, having said that, as
I customarily ask any guest who knocks home runs out

(02:14:57):
of the ballpark, here one, Neil mammon, would you come back?
And then number two, if you would please mention any
uh any websites, social media or other things or points
to which you'd like to draw people people's attention.

Speaker 7 (02:15:15):
Yeah, absolutely, thank you. I would love to come back.

Speaker 8 (02:15:17):
I'd be honest.

Speaker 6 (02:15:18):
This is a blast.

Speaker 10 (02:15:19):
You have a great time. Frankly, I gotta tell you
I had a great time.

Speaker 8 (02:15:22):
Usually I only get twenty minutes. So this is a
this is a privilege and honor.

Speaker 13 (02:15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:15:30):
So my subject that you have MoMA do subsat dot
com no blind faith. You can see most of my
books there, or if you just go to Amazon and
just say look I'm mom, and I have about I
can't remember.

Speaker 8 (02:15:43):
I think I have nine books or something like that there, but.

Speaker 7 (02:15:48):
And most of them, we've got apologetics for kids.

Speaker 8 (02:15:51):
We've got a bunch of different things there.

Speaker 7 (02:15:52):
So yeah, absolutely please if you want to look me
on on Facebook, it's Jesus politics, Neil. And if you
but do mention that you saw me on this show,
because I get a lot of people that are weird,
so I'm kind of picky.

Speaker 10 (02:16:10):
So folks, thank you for being here, and Neil, thank
you for being here so late, because it is let's see,
it's eleven fifteen where you are. I know I'm a
late night show. I'm not everyone's habit in central it's
twelve fifteen. It's one fifteen. If you're an insane person

(02:16:31):
on the far right, ghost, because you'd have to be insane.
Weird thing is I get most of my people and
most of my viewers and most of my guests from
the far right coast. I can't figure that out. But
in any event, also, Lonnie Poindexter, you have there any
websites or any social venues or other things that you'd

(02:16:53):
like to draw people's attention to.

Speaker 15 (02:16:56):
Just mainly what Neil mentioned, then you can find out
information about me at every b l M dot com.
Also old the the relaunch of the Content of Characters
Series dot com website, and we're diligently working on that
and and uh and so you can go there to

(02:17:19):
get news and information about different things that we're we're
doing because what we saw in the last election is
that you know, this thing that we've been trying to
accomplish with educating the uh, the black community, this last election,
something took place and you've got folks who happen to
have a darker paint job.

Speaker 6 (02:17:38):
I recognized that.

Speaker 15 (02:17:40):
I call it the Great Bamboozlement and uh uh and
that they see now and they're gonna be looking for
places they can go to get news and information about
what's really going on. And so we'll be recommending them
to platforms like yours, b Z also obviously every b
l M dot com and the other platforms that are

(02:18:01):
associated with that brand and also kneels on various brands
as well. And so we're in the good fight of
faith and we're going to continue to do that. And
on the relaunch of my radio and platform with a
and add to it that it's going to be a
podcast as well, so redly stay tuned for that.

Speaker 6 (02:18:22):
See you're getting on my case about the book.

Speaker 15 (02:18:25):
Yeah, I've been trying to get busy doing something as
I feel much better and relative to my health.

Speaker 6 (02:18:33):
On this journey that I'm on. And it'll be a
year since the surgery on December fourth.

Speaker 16 (02:18:39):
So wow.

Speaker 10 (02:18:40):
Yeah, wait a minute, now, you know representing who I am?
Who am I? Where is Lonnie? Are you coming back?
Will you be coming back to s HR because the invitation, sir,
is out there. Well you're just appeared. I don't know why,

(02:19:01):
but anyway, the open invitation is there to you Lannie anyway,
so we can say goodbye to Lannie and then to
kneel sir. Thank Wait a minute, I got to be
pointing the right way. Screws me up every time. Thank you, sir,
ever so kindly for being here tonight. I had a

(02:19:25):
great time, and I hope you did well.

Speaker 7 (02:19:28):
I was gonna say, I have my daughter and fiance
are up in Moscow, so we will be driving up
that way.

Speaker 8 (02:19:35):
I think you're on the way right from Boise.

Speaker 10 (02:19:38):
I am north of Moscow.

Speaker 7 (02:19:40):
Oh you are, okay?

Speaker 12 (02:19:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:19:42):
How far I'm north of Cordelaine. If if you were okay,
if you were to go up ninety five, I'm past
ninety east west. I'm about ninety miles from Canada.

Speaker 8 (02:19:58):
A oh wow, okay, yeah, because I was going to say,
we count throwing buy and have coffee.

Speaker 10 (02:20:04):
Okay, Well if you do, if you ever do you
know you got my number, bring me up. I would
love to have some coffee, tea or or beverage teacher
with so Neil, mammon, sir, I had a great time.
Thank you tonight for being here, folks. I hope you

(02:20:25):
had a great time. I know I did. You know
when you when you speak to people, you have folks.
And I told I told Neil this. Don't don't tell
him that I talked to him about this, you know,
because there are easy interviews and there are difficult interviews,
and there are interviews and personnel that you have to

(02:20:48):
drag everything. No, you know what with With Neil, you
just drop some bullet points and let him go. And
the dude is highly knowledgeable, highly educated, highly skilled, knows
what he's talking about. Your Mark one Model one sme

(02:21:09):
subject subject matter expert. And I am so incredibly blessed
by having him here tonight. We're going to have him back.
And as a matter of fact, I hope all of
you had a great time here tonight. Thanks for being here.
And then, of course what and so what I'm saying

(02:21:36):
is that ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of
all ages, thanks for being here in bz's Berserk Bobcat
Saloon Radio Show Live and direct tonight on the SHR
Media Network. Thanks to Neil Mammon. Thanks Delannie Poindexter. I
didn't get to a fraction of the stuff that I

(02:21:57):
wanted to get to. And of course, as you already
well know, promotional consideration is by the lockeyed Martin Skunkworks,
also by the Sure and Electro Voice microphone company, Iracus
Boards you make my mixer, and also by Pratt and
Whitney Engines producing Thrust you can trust. Tiara's tonight thanks Thomas.

(02:22:23):
Tiaras are by my Little Pony, thanks to my personal
casey one thirty five Kettle one refueling team with whom
I shall be consorting in less than I don't know
ten minutes or so. I had the window over there
open all night. It's nice and cool in the studio.
You were cool for being here. Neil Mammon is cool.
Lonnie Poindexter is cool. You guys have a great weekend,

(02:22:50):
a fabulous weekend.

Speaker 6 (02:22:51):
I have an idea.

Speaker 10 (02:22:52):
Let's do this again next Tuesday night, same bat time,
same bat channel. Everybody, God bless, take care of be safe.

Speaker 8 (02:23:03):
Everybody quiet down now and get some sleep.

Speaker 7 (02:23:06):
And everybody night.

Speaker 8 (02:23:07):
Mama, not man, good night everyone, good.

Speaker 5 (02:23:10):
Night, Mama, Gon Daddy, good night, children, good night, Daddy,
good night, Elizabeth.

Speaker 6 (02:23:15):
Nightgown boy, good night, Jimbob Night, Jimbob, good night, Jim.

Speaker 12 (02:23:23):
Push going on, I was asleep.

Speaker 8 (02:23:25):
What's everybody doing?

Speaker 7 (02:23:26):
Good night, good night, and good luck,

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