Between Two Beers Podcast

Three years since our first episode, Ryan Fox returns to the podcast - and a lot has changed over that period.

Fox has been on an incredible run, but it didn’t all come easy - and behind the scenes there were serious challenges for his family.

The perspective that came from loss, and the fine line between professional success and personal struggle, he shares what it really takes to compete on the PGA Tour, the process of rebu...

Six years, hundreds of conversations, and one dodgy Six years, hundreds of conversations, and one dodgy Blue Yeti Microphone later - we’re celebrating Between Two Beers’ 6th birthday with a special Hambassadors episode!

Steve and Che look back on the journey from a garage in Glenview to a full-time gig - revisiting the moments that shaped the show, from Eric Murray’s “BDE” to Ryan Fox’s office golf, tears with Jason Gunn, and th...

An absolute honour to spend an hour with the great Bill Bailey

In this wide-ranging conversation, Bill opens up about friendship, grief, family, creativity, and what really matters after a lifetime on stage. It’s honest, warm, and full of the humour and curiosity that make him one of the world’s most loved comedians.

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In this episode of Accidental Business Owners, Che and Di sit down for an honest, vulnerable chat about weight loss, self-discipline, and self-acceptance - and how those themes spill into every part of life and business.

From the pressure of public goals to the quiet guilt of slipping habits, this is a conversation about more than just food or fitness. It’s about control, compassion, and finding balance when life feels full.

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Sam Spratt is one of New Zealand’s most successful and fearless jockeys.

In this episode, Sam opens up about the brutal reality of life in the saddle — the crashes, the comebacks, and the constant risk that comes with chasing victory. She talks about her remarkable two-decade career at the top of NZ racing, the brain injury that nearly ended it all, and the mental fight to return to the sport she loves.

We also dive into her ...

In this episode of Hambassadors, Che and Steven take you behind the scenes of Between Two Beers – but things don’t quite go to plan.

We take you behind the scenes of a full-blown geography controversy when Che proudly welcomes a crowd in Ōtorohanga to “Waikato”. The silence that followed said it all.

Along the way, the guys talk through:

• Bruce Holloway’s emotional recognition at the WaiBOP Football Awards
• The “King Country ...

Brent Impey has shaped two of New Zealand’s most powerful industries - rugby and media.

From negotiating a $777 million MediaWorks deal to steering NZ Rugby through the Silver Lake saga, Brent’s career has been defined by high-stakes leadership, big personalities, and even bigger decisions.

In this wide-ranging conversation, he opens up about:

• How he saved NZ Rugby from financial collapse during Covid
• The inside story behin...

In this episode of Accidental Business Owners, Steve shares his experience from the Icehouse Owner Manager Programme — what he learned about leadership, the brutal honesty of 360 feedback, and how it’s changing the way he runs Between Two Beers.

Di and Steve unpack courage, confidence, and what it means to grow a creative business sustainably — without burning out or losing the magic.

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This week we’re re-sharing one of our favourite episodes ever, with Hayley Holt.

Hayley has lived an incredible life – and there’s so much to learn at each chapter. One of NZ’s highest profile broadcasters is on the podcast this week! We find out what young Hayley was like, the path from dancer to snowboarder, her difficult relationship with booze, her TV career and her challenging road to motherhood. …

And that’s just the ...

Go behind the scenes of the Stan Walker episode and inside the madness of a typical Hambassadors recording.

This week, Steve and Che share:

- What happened after Stan Walker’s interview (when he started singing in the studio!)

- A night at the rugby packed with familiar faces (Taika, Foxy, Sharyn Casey, Brodie Kane & more)

- Bree Tomasel’s wisdom on making decisions and starting messy

- A few new “Hambassadors” life hacks and of...

Stan Walker’s story is one of survival, transformation, and purpose.

In this conversation, Stan opens up about the abuse and trauma of his childhood, the complicated relationship with his parents, and how those experiences shaped the man he is today. He reflects on the highs of fame after winning Australian Idol, the dark side of the music industry, and the battles he’s faced with public perception and health - including the lif...

This week, we’re asking the BIG question:

👉 Is it time to rebrand Between Two Beers?

What started as two mates in a garage drinking beers has grown into a full-time business — podcasts, speaking, storytelling, partnerships. But now we’re wondering:

• Is the beer in our name holding us back?
• Are sponsors avoiding us because of it?
• Would a new name unlock new opportunities — or kill everything we’ve built?

We also dive ...

Al Brown is one of New Zealand’s most beloved chefs — but behind the TV fame (Hunger for the Wild, Masterchef), award-winning restaurants (Logan Brown, Depot, Federal Deli, Best Ugly Bagels), and his role as a Kiwi food icon lies a story of adoption, perfectionism, reinvention and resilience.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Al opens up about:

• Walking away from fine dining and Logan Brown
• Building Depot into one of NZ’s most...

In this episode of Hambassadors, we cover it all: parenting chaos, podcasting lessons, new beers, and one unforgettable message from Laura McGoldrick.

Laura shares the powerful reminder that “one day you’ll put your child down for the very last time” - a truth about time, parenting guilt, and family that hit us both hard.

But it’s not all serious…

- Bon accidentally smashes Billy in the face during a parents vs kids football m...

Steve Gurney is one of the greatest multisport athletes New Zealand has ever produced - but this podcast is about so much more than racing.

In this episode, Steve takes us far beyond the finish line.

We explore:

• Why winning 9 Coast to Coast titles didn’t bring him peace
• The childhood trauma that lit his fire
• How a near-death illness nearly ended everything
• His struggles with depression and identity
• Deep work on mental rewiring thr...

What’s really happening with Che & Di?

In this Accidental Business Owners sit-down, we unpack “the incident,” the viral clip that hit over 250k views versus where we’re at 10 weeks down the track.

Steve sets the scene, then Di breaks down why tough coaching landed, and Che explains the shift - speaking up, reducing cognitive load, and learning to say “no” without guilt.

We get into perception vs reality, the clip economy, ...

Olympic BMX star Sarah Walker has lived through it all: the glory of an Olympic silver medal, the pain of breaking 18 bones, and the terrifying reality of a serious brain injury that changed her personality.

In this episode of Between Two Beers, Sarah reveals:

• The mindset shift that turned fear into bravery.
• How she rebuilt her confidence after devastating injuries.
• What it really takes to compete at the Olympics when one mista...

After his first appearance on Between Two Beers, broadcaster Mark Stafford never expected what would happen next. Listeners reached out to share how his raw honesty about mental health struggles gave them strength - and in some cases, even helped save lives.

In this special follow-up, Staffy joins us again to reflect on those messages, the impact his story has had, and what he’s learned about the power of speaking openly.

Gilbert Enoka - the All Blacks’ long-time mental skills coach - shares the untold stories behind New Zealand rugby’s culture, resilience, and leadership.

Across 23 years and 304 tests and 2 World Cup victories, Gilbert worked with coaches and players like Sir Graham Henry, Sir Steve Hansen, Ian Foster, and legends including Richie McCaw, Dan Carter, and Tana Umaga.

In this episode, he opens up about:

• Building the All Black...