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June 24, 2024 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Free freedom now there are e e O O M.
It's what our ancestors talk about that as a kid.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I don't free freedom Now there are em.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Is the reality to our kids if they didn't wish
you can't tell me? Does there hang you that they
chiu and have had a little of a fact like
the loss of life.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give it for me and you you they're not being.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
So the force to create their own history of murder and.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Kill hill struts and bay at home.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Somehow what olters went with or all the lives that
were gigive.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Someone weeping and hands something doing.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Hunger and pain for the time which you live in
a rara is now being chong where they the pain again,
but not not the hands of a rast but our
think of black man. We're not at our children on
how we came to bob At to choose our future,

(01:08):
control of our destiny.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
We don't have our elves anymore. That that set us
down to teach there was a pole than judging mom game.
They needed more than just free creation.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
We needed to spend.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
More time with our children.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'm higher the great.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm tired of seeing the Bible in the streetreet fucking
real current dreaming now.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Black history, Mo, mother and feby where there's joy was
mon than year.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
But there's more than mycom roller and came to lay
now and we've got to kid, it's what way you
can't go?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
What would our ancestors to say?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Are they being heritage or judging the white man's white way?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So just by your children is.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Teaching and being involved than where they come. She didn't
need to be proud of who they are. And they're
not free free, and then.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think you.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Can't do no worry about it?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's going on y'all? My name
is cast Mo and we're here with the beautiful v
Queen and on the grace. Can you hear us? Okay?
Did you hold on one second? Deal, Let's try to
find out what's going on? Okay, can you say something? No,

(02:54):
Honey's still coming through saying now all right, try now?
Yes we can?

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Okay, great, yes we can. I mean trying to get
connected and everything.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Love?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I'm so sorry. I tried to get the video thing
I hooked up for us, honey, but for some strange
reason we wouldn't getting connected. But it is a blessing
to have you on our show, y'all give it up
for the one and only Grace.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I do thank you
for having me.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh definitely, definitely, Hans. So I'm gonna give you to
V Queen. She gonna hit you with a couple of questions.
She sent me a photo so I can put you
up on the screen, so we will at least have
you there, So V Queen go ahead, Love.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Grace, are you doing this? Queen be queen?

Speaker 6 (03:59):
Yes, you know you are a wonderful spirit.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
And I.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
I just had you on my heart to have you
on this platform. And you know, ever since we met,
I loved your.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Energy and how much gratitude much gratitude.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
And I just tell me about Grace Jones versus Grace
be with you.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I'll tell me two different people. Okay, all right, So
gret Jones is a mother of five, very very shall
but no one would know that because they stand up
in front of people and do stuken words. But you

(04:45):
wouldn't love that dog. But I'm a mother and father
have two grandchildren. I just got a loose grandchild. He's
two one. His name is Calve Cash. Yeah Cash, and

(05:10):
my mother. You know, my mother, a single mother that
there's just her living in Saint Louis going and growing
to struggle. Jesus, make it work, making it happen. Yes,
and Grace be with you. She on the other hand,

(05:36):
she is, Oh my god, she has so much party.
She's unafraid, she's very brave, she's outside all. She is
a beautiful, beautiful person. Both a beautiful person. But Grace
be with you and she I rock with her more.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
I like how you say gris with you because to me,
it makes me think of a lineage. It makes me
think of the matriarch, like my grandmother. It makes me
think of family, you know, togetherness and you know energy.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
You know.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Right, So when we say grace be with you, what
does that mean for the community or what does that
mean for the human being? Like, what do you mean
when you say grace be with you? Is it like
I'm extending my arms or how does that look?

Speaker 5 (06:31):
It's like this, it's like you will never forgive me. Yeah,
and grace and grace is what keeps us gone, right, Okay,
So it's like this, when I do spoken words, you're
not going to forget that spoken word that I think
you're not going to forgive me. It's gonna be lement
in your period, okay. And I do. I do natural

(06:55):
products too. I make natural soaps and things like that,
oils and ant like that. Okay, okay, So when you
when you put that on its brakes, be with you.
I'm with you, right, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So tell me something sweet, don't have time.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I came up with this, okay, So I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's all right, that's all right. So tell me something.
When did you decide that poetry was the road that
you wanted to take.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I never knew that it was called quarkin at the
time when I started writing, because I was so young.
When I started writing, I don't have a journal, and
I was just right because, like I said, I was
already for a shot person. I never thought that my
word you met anything or nobody cares even in continued, Okay,

(07:48):
So I had a party on a mobook and I
started to write. Now, when I became on the scene
of a in a poet, oh my god, I was
so fighting for one day. I got I got I

(08:08):
got it of all all of my all of my strength,
and I went up on that stage. And from that
first time, it was it was just it was it
was great. It was milk. I was like her. I
felt so different. I felt so different, I felt easy,

(08:30):
I felt relieved. Oh my god, it was wonderful.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
It's therapy to me.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, it's all. It's always the same thing for me too.
It's it's therapy. So what are what what do you?
What do you get out of the poetry game right
now as as it stands there?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
What?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
How do you? Wait a minute, let me rephrase that
right now? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, oh my god, it's like when I look at
it right now, you're talking about now as we're staying
right now with the people that's in the community that
they do with poetry and second words and stuff like that. Absolutely,
to be honest with you, I have to take a
mental break away from it all because there's so much

(09:16):
going on. It's people competing with people. I'm not a
competitive person when it comes to speaking or just relieving
myself with is getting the word out. But it's so
much of that going on. There's so much hate going
on and going around, and I just had to take

(09:38):
me in messy bright some monk. However, the art of
fortuy is never gonna start with me. I love it.
You know, I don't have to go to certain places
or be with certain people to be hurt, you.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Know, right.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
So when you write your poetry, is it themed or
when you first started out, was it like what type
of purpose or what type of I guess genre?

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Were you.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Always like mostly of empowerment? Strength is just overcoming things? Yeah? No,
it was more about empirement, strengtheningly, overcoming obstacles and things
like that.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Do you think from trauma or how does that look?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Or I can't hear you say the game queen?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Do you think poetry comes from trauma or your life experiences.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
All of the above? Okay, yes, like that's my trauma
has been in many of my poetry pieces. M because
I was finally able to just get it out right,
you know it, set of holding it inside. Oh yes,

(11:12):
poetry is beautiful. It's so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay, real quick, give us the origin of the name
Grace be with you.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm. Sensational easy, like Sunday morning, a
breath of fresh liance.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Just love and life.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Ready okay?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And and and and how did you how did you
put the name Grace be with you? Together? I understand
what what it all means, and you're sure right the
knowledgy of it that you just did. But how did
you create the name Grace Be with you?

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Mm hmm, Well, just like I said, well, you know
my name is my original name is Grace Jones. And
I know everybody know who Grape Jones is. Man, I
used to get teased about their name. Talk to me

(12:19):
about her name all the time, and I hated it
and I hated it, but I grew to love it.
I grew to love my name. Grace is a powerful name.

(12:39):
And how did I get to Grace be with you?
It's because, just like I said before, I make a
different types of natural products oils and natural soaps and
all kinds of things tambles and things like that.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
So spell on that, Hi, give us the spell on that,
on on on the product that you make. Deal let
us know about the other side of Grace be with you.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Oh yeah, So, like I said, I've made now your
folks on you. I ever make medicine. I make medicine
from earth. You know what I'm saying. I took it
to myself is a healing in my ways and my words.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Okay, how did you get how did you get to
wanting to be into healing.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
With the because I need to be healed. And the
only way that I got to heal is because I
healed myself and I see the power inside of it.
So to help someone else till the theirself, I knew
that it could be done. Can you hear me? Do it? No?

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Go ahead?

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Now I'm asking can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh yeah, you fine?

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Okay? So yeah, so that's how it became. That's how
I came over there. So I knew that it could
be better because I was the one that needed him.
And you know when you search up for something that
you can't find it when it's rights are inside of

(14:19):
you and right there. So I figured it out and
I hear was myself and that's where a magic lies.
So I think that I could do that for myself.

(14:41):
So why don't I help somebody? You?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
All right, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
So I'm a mother and I'm definitely a nurturer, and
I actually did go the doula route. And I hear
that you're a doula, So would you mind explaining to
our audience what a doula is?

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Absolutely so a doula is a person that works run
along tide of a midwife, like a midwife assistant. And
basically what we're doing provide emotional support to the mother

(15:24):
and the fathers. Fathers need support to when they're having
their child. So what I do is I bring them
in as a client and I bring them into my home,
and my home is like set up as like a
piece of oasis. We do stretches. We write down the

(15:49):
things that the mother her wishes, like if she wants
to be a water birk or something like that. We
go down the line of things that she wants. If
she wants music playing when she tasing a baby, we
go through that like you just playing planning for the

(16:09):
birth of the baby. No. And then also I get resources.
I help them with creb, baby crabs, baby farmer, pampers,
whatever they need. So basically a dueling issues the part
of person that's in your life that's postpartum and during

(16:32):
the birth of your baby.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, So.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
I think that's what to me.

Speaker 7 (16:43):
This is my opinion because I don't want to get canceled,
but I do think that's what the hospitals are missing.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
They're missing that connection and that personable portion.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
And before I let you comment on that, I do
want to say a shout out to the father's happy
belated Father's Day.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, absolutely, happy father's days. Father's Day is every day. Yes,
Mother's Day is every day, right right, But yeah, they're.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
They're they're missing that personable part. And I think that
to me, that's what Doula's offer. They they offer the
parents of voice on how you want this childbirthday process.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
To be, how you exact music going, how you want
us to.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Sway and hold that baby, how you want you know
that that is very important because you go to a hospital,
you're gonna get that epidor uh, you're gonna get people
who probably don't want to be at work today.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
And it exactly, Queen, and that's what we do, and
that's what I do, Yeah, because I know it's like
a misjudgment when it comes to hospitals when black and
brown women going to the hospital have their babies like
it's a it's a disadvantage.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
They treat you like anything.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
You can put a price on having a birth baby.
You can put a price on birth.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And a baby.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Okay, if I want to go back to something that
you was discussing, and you said that you had to
heal your heal yourself. So if it's not getting too personal,
what did what did you have to heal yourself from?
And what was that journey?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Like? Oh? Man, it was very void and heal myself
of a lot of things, just like man, like just
feeling down and feeling feeling I'll protected, feeling like I

(18:41):
was the only one. I was left by myself. Like
it was just a long journey. It took me a while.
So you battled with the pression actually yes, to actually
go faith to faith and be transparent with what was
going on with me, because at the time I didn't

(19:04):
and I couldn't understand it, but I knew there was
something there, you know, Okay, okay, And.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And doing your doing that journey, you know, I'm digging
in a little bit. What was some of the things
that you did to deal with your depression? Oh my god,
I got to where you can you know what I'm
getting at is you said that.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
You had to hear I had to change. I had
to I had to I had to change my perspective.
I had to change my mental perspective of things. I
had to change my mental perspective of things. I'm sorry
I had to go in but the side of myself.
I had to dig these two and pull all of

(19:51):
those things out of me and set all of those
things by the front of me, and I dealt with
them one by one. I didn't do it all about together.
I just needed one by one.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
That means that you got you got tools that you
were given. Now that you have did it for yourself,
now you are sharing these tools with others.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Exactly why not? It's so much, it's so it's so
much mental what I want to say, mental distortion. That's
what I'm gonna think. Just going on. Don't nobody want
to talk about the mental thoughts, but we could talk

(20:35):
about everything else. Trauma is well, go ahead, love No.
I was just saying, trauma is evident and in our community,
but no one likes to talk about it. No one
likes to deal with it. They just want to put
a band aid on it and it's gone by the way,

(20:57):
or I tell you the gold Church prayer by it
and thinking it'll go away.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
So how do you feel that we should that this
it should be approached. You know, it's a lot of
people are holding back a lot and it's like the unknown.
So how how do you think that that this mental
illness and stuff should be approached. Is this something that
we should stand back and just watch or is it
something that we should all be, you know, trying to
figure out what roads.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
To take to uh I think it should be all
figuring out all collective league because we we stay in
this world right with some more war like it's so
much stuff is going on, so much, and people are
very depressed to say, down and out. It's just a

(21:47):
lot of negativity.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And right now.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
And I and I know that we can be able
to the hearers, could be able to heal if you
know how to.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
So the resources that.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
Yes, the resources grace that you offer, you know, whether
nurturing as a dueler or mental health wise, Like what
what other mental health things you offer in regards to resources,
because I know, uh, I want to bring back journaling,
being very expressive with your words and putting it out

(22:25):
there because we don't get in touch with our feelings
without being labeled as sensitive.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Have you?

Speaker 7 (22:33):
So what what what the resources would you recommend for
someone who's going through the mental health issues?

Speaker 5 (22:41):
All right, Well, First of all, you have to know
that you something is going all with you, and you
have to be willing and you let all of it go,
no matter how high hurt. You know, you have to
be ready for it. So first it takes you. Then

(23:04):
it takes for you to go travel down their line,
go back in memory lane, and grab all of that
stuff that hurts you, bring it up to the forefront
and dissected, whether that's journalist, whether that's meditative, whether that's

(23:25):
taking yourself away and just enjoying yourself in nature, because
all of those elements kill you. Know, it's different ways.
Everybody is not the same. I agree.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Okay, this question here is for you, hon if you could,
because I know that you say that you can practically notice,
you know that hidden depression sign on people. So if
you see somebody and you know they're going through it,
but they're not talking about it, what's the safe it's
way to approach them.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
The safest way to approach them is to wait until
they're ready to talk about it. That's that's that's that's it,
and be there and be supportive and have a listening.
And that's the only way that you can get all

(24:27):
those things out. Of their person.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Okay, but if you, if you like, can visually see
that somebody is sinking and deep into depression.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
You know, I just don't come up to you'all hood
you tight, okay.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
And real.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
And just say I love you, right, I love you.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I say, that's that's the best I can do right now.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
So so Grace, just to switch gears, how long have
you been in the performing in the Saint Louis area
or on the poetry scene?

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Oh well, since two thousand and seventeen. That's when I
first got up on the page.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
What was that like your first time? It was so s.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
My whole body was shaking. I felt like a leaf
on the tree. I ain't lying, I did. I felt
like a leaf on the tree. But after it, it
was so gratifying I forgot were pieced it out that

(25:44):
I was speaking. Oh my god. I cried after because
I was believed I got it out, and I'm like, okay,
so this this, this is this is good, this is good.
I can do this.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I can do it.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Care I know. I asked you about the stage, you know,
the you know how the open mic or the poetry
scene is right now. But let's shift to something else
real quick, how do you see the open mic scene
right now? Do you believe it's doing okay? Or is
it a little saturated?

Speaker 5 (26:19):
The second thing that you think okay, just a hot mess,
like what are you all doing? Like it's not even
supposed to be like that? But who am I to saying?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Right?

Speaker 5 (26:33):
You know, if you don't like something, then you stay
away from it. You don't have to be involved in it.
You know, you make them own way, you know, you
promote you, you know, And that's how that's how I've
been all the time.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Right right, We just had another call to trying to
call in, So if you if you are that call,
I am so sorry, but this is our guest on
right now, and right now we don't have that go
over to the next person kind of thing going. So
hope you enjoined the show and you was calling in
with a question, but we don't have that right now,

(27:12):
working progress, working proper, Parker. So uh again, the the
thing with with with the open mics being a little saturated,
it's it is a lot of them going on right now.
And I asked this of brother Free the other day
he was on he did a showcase. Yeah, he did

(27:33):
a showcase Saturday and introduced his EP that he got out.
You should go check it out on Wednesday Winding Words
page on YouTube. It's a pretty good interview Wednesday Wining
Words on YouTube. Yes, as a matter of fact, gone
subscribe to that page there, missus grace to be with you. Yeah, yeah, disclaimer. Uh,

(27:53):
but we me and him had a conversation about the
open mic scene and and what an open mic is
supposed to be four you know, and an open mic
is supposed to be for artists to come and be
able to practice their craft, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Yeah, and yes, cash here and yeah, that's how it
used to be when I first started going right, and yeah, when.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
My question is, do you think it's right to charge
fifteen to twenty dollars to get into an open mic?

Speaker 5 (28:23):
He and you know, hell about like now y'all just
out here just clowning, y'all just out here clowning for real.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah. I always thought that it's becoming monetarized, being Yeah,
they want to make more money off of it than
it is for their for the artists to come in
and practice their craft.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
That's what I say, exactly, And that's why, and that's
why you.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Get side as has taken over open mic and it's
it's it's getting saturated. Because of that, more people are
looking to make money off of it than giving the
artists an opportunity to come down and practice they craft.
I'm still and we talked about this too. I'm still
trying to figure out myself what a closed mic is

(29:19):
a closed mic? Yeah, those shows, that's those the shows
that's costing, charging fifteen to twenty dollars to get into it.
They're not calling it the open mic. They calling it
a closed mic. But after the people finished performing, they
open the mic. So what is that? Yeah, it's it's
it's an open mic. You know that they charging you,
and you know it's all right to have a feature

(29:41):
at an open mic.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
It's okay, forty dollars, you know what I'm saying, Just
a practice or people, if you if.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You, if you're gonna pay fifteen and twenty dollars to
get into an open mic, don't well, don't call it
an open mic. Call it a show. That's what it is.
It's a show. And if you're paying to see a
you see a show, that means that nobody should be
using paper and pencils and phones and all that cause
you come to get entertained. I'll watched somebody practice for

(30:10):
twenty dollars. Hey, I don't I don't have anything to hide,
and I don't bite my tongue about nothing. So again,
I believe it's a little saturated. I believe that that
it's becoming uh uh strictly money made, you know, uh
and step on for the artists to come and practice

(30:31):
their crafts and get better at what they do, because
that's what open mics are supposed to be for. But
again I digress, because I don't do open mics. Stop
doing Yeah, I stopped doing them for the fact that
I still believe that open the only person that's doing
open mic the right way right now, the only person

(30:52):
that's doing it right. It's little confliction and here's free.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Okay out to get in. So you got something going on.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
There you go three, I can see, you know, and
they don't pull they they done made that brother pull
on out the game. But you know, uh, that's because
don't nobody want to see the original part of what
open mic is really supposed to be. It's not supposed to.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Be geared to be a say why do you want
to go see the same people perform every.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Week, Because it's not supposed to be a performance. Its
supposed to be a place to practice. It's supposed to
be a place to practice.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
See.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
If you start looking at it as as seeing people perform,
then you're paying your money to see a performance and
not an open mic. See, you gotta believe it's a
difference in it. That's why I believe it's saturated. But
teaches on with everybody that that does that, And if
you got a following that's following you with that, please
continue to do what you do. But you need to

(31:54):
understand that you're taking the the the idea of what
an open mic it's supposed to be, and you're twisting
it and making it into something else. So open open
night for anymore. So back to our guess, Well.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
When I first thought passing it was a place I
think the first time, Well, no I'm not the first tibum,
but when I first started feeling comfortable was over theread
wired up with Lois conflection and energy. They had it
set up word to you don't have to call in
or nothing like that to put your name on the board.

(32:37):
When you come in, you write your name down. I
think it was like free, free to perform and five
I was to look and to perform when I performed,
but practice, like you said, you know, and it was
a great and it was a great space for people
to come and share. But I don't know what they made.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Because now that's that's that's what I was talking about.
You have to sign in online and all that myth. Yeah,
that's that's that's too. That's too much drama for open mic.
You know, you come, you sign you call the people
in the order that it is on that list, or
you go piss some people off exactly.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
And then they started doing that too.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Oh yeah, it didn't happen before and more than once,
uh with a with a few artists. It happened to
me once I signed up on the list and got
skipped over.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
And And that's that's that's not cool either. As as
as being the curator of an open mic, that's that's
that's not cool either. But it happens, and it's something
that is going to continue to happen. There's nothing you
can do about it. If you're not happy with the
way that happens, to find another open mic to go to.
Because because it's.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Gonna happen, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
And and if and if you're the curator and people
stop coming and you wonder why look in the mirror?
Uh So again, love, it's it's good to have you
on the show. So tell me something has grace be
with you written any books.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
I am still working on my book. And however long
it's gonna take me to get this book out, because
it don't be real good too, it's just really it's copper,
gracefully broken.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh, gracefully broken? Yes, okay, okay, And and and and
when do you see yourself getting this getting this book out?
And and are you gonna self publish or what?

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Oh my god? They always tell you to put a
time on something. If you don't put no time on something,
it will never get done.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's correct.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm still working know my book. And this
has been two years since I wrote the first Okay,
my book should be already publish.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Okay. Are you are you playing it on going the
self publishing rock or route or are you going to
look for a publisher?

Speaker 5 (35:26):
I'm doing now. I'm going to self publish. I'm do
it myself.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
That's a smart thing, you know, because that way, you
ain't got to worry about editing and all that. You
can do that stuff.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
I can do it right.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
A lot of a lot of people, a lot of
writers go to go that route and get people to
edit their work, and which is something that I think
all writers should do theirself. They should edit their own work.
I do believe.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
Absolutely takes a long time, though, because you're busy with
life and you have to kind of sort out some things.
So I get grace when she said, yeah, that book
will be out in three more years.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
She got things to do.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
But I ain't gonna stop on Queen, I said, Queen,
I'm not gonna stop. I'm keep writing.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Yeah, I'm still writing.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
Myself, and I got a book that's gonna come out.
And I did go the publisher route, and what I did,
I made the book very I condensed it. I kind
of focused on grieving because I do grieving poems when
people lose their loved ones, and then I just put them.
You know, this is more like a test thing because
my first book was a collaboration with Twisted Poet with Haikus,

(36:41):
and this book, this book is more I want.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
To help people out, you know, because it's a lot
of people dying.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
It's yeah, a self help book.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Yeah, so maybe my last will be a self published
But I feel like I'm too busy though, But then
again I.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Don't right right, I don't know. We had just had
that conversation about it. Queen uh that decided to go
in and and and and just discombobulate all my ship
and and and it upset me. It upset me a
little bit to where I had to call her and
tell her, you know, you need to just put everything

(37:20):
back like it was, and just you know, put your
pronunciations and periods and question marks, you know what. That's
all I needed you for. I didn't need you changing
no words and screwed up my whole book.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
That's why you got a Well.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
It's not it's not the writing part that that that
pissed me off. You know, it was her deciding that
she wanted to edit my book the way that she
sing fit and and yeah, well she needs to learn
the difference between poetry and and somebody writing a regular book.
You can go in there and you wanted it that

(37:57):
you wanted to Wait, no, I wanted the way it
was written. You don't. You don't do that to nobody's poetry.
Poetry is written for for a way, for a reason,
you know what. Anybody, everybody's poetry.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
The way you said, the way you said it, the
way you wrote it down is the way you want
to That's.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
The way I wanted to be perceived. Absolute When did
you have an editor? Well, it was my first book.
It was my first book, and I was going through
a publishing company and they told me that they had
an editor. That was you know, so I did it
once and I never did it again, So that's that's
that's yeah, Yeah, I did it before and it will
never happened again. And that's what they mean by sometimes

(38:34):
you just gotta learn from your mistakes, you know. So
I didn't have no problem with learning from my mistakes.
So that that yes, that's I am. Of course I
am patting myself on the back.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Grace, Uh, my friend.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
By pole love moments.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
That's all right, everybody has a moment minutes.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
I high cools for you, Grace.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
I'd definitely like to always honor our guests, So if
you will oblige me, I'm gonna say a few hat coos.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
In your honor.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Is that okay?

Speaker 5 (39:16):
That is perfectly fine crazy.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah. So I always like to remind everybody this is
the high cool hour. And you know I always challenge
our guess. If you got a hot cool, spit it out.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Uh. It is syllable based consists of seventeen syllables. You
can do a five seven five or three nine three,
as long as you get yourself out there. And I
always thought and I stand by this, high cools are
a bit difficult to write, more so than poetry, although
it is a form of poetry because everything needs.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
To I mean, teach how to do that?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Hag cou, I got you, I got you, five seven
five love.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
I like that, devoid say that again, five seven five love.
I'm gonna throw a claw. I'm gonna throw a claw
because I ain't gonna throw that other garment. All right,
Grace be with you. Queen. Poetis wordsmith, divine, one of

(40:11):
a kind, true.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Authentic doula birthing.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
I love it, Queen.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
Doula nurturing young queens. So what I want to do is.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Culminate your bio and just condition it into the person
that you are. And this last one says medicine woman
healing thyself and others spreading the good news.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, one more time, love you, one more time. Love y'all.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Remember that show Medicine Woman. Yeah, boy, don't play with me.
That's that's my movie that Grace. You ever seen Medicine Woman?

Speaker 5 (41:00):
I think I have it out familiar.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yeah, it's basically a woman who's healing people with her herbs.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
But just to recap this me right there.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Okay, No, no, that's somebody else trying to get in.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
So I'm flattered.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I'm flattered to you.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
Got to get those features going Yeah, we have to.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Get those those called waiting features going on.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Yeah, let them down.

Speaker 8 (41:25):
Grace y'all hitting us, y'all, hitting us with the phone
call because we got Grace to be with you on
the show, right, stay hitting us hard with the phone call.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
We show appreciated. Whish we could bring y'all in, but
we show noticing you though, show noticing, show noticing medicine Woman.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Well you know what, I appreciate. Chill and thank y'all
having me younger.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yes, yes, go ahead, queen you was you was reading
that over again, because Grace, you ain't getting away from
us without giving us a piece, So go ahead, queen
and and and and uh you got another high cool
for us.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
I'm gonna ending with medicine, woman healing thyself and others
spreading the good news.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Lastly, yeah, you know, and I love be Queen. Every
time we every time we have a guest, she'll sit
here and she'll write two or three high cools that's
basically written for that guest. So, uh, kudos, Honey, you're
doing a great job with yes, sir, so so so
grace be with you.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Go.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
I know you want to bless us with something, Honey,
give us.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
A piece, all right. So this piece that I want
to do, it's called mountain my strength. To overcome this
steve mountain and get to the other side of that,
I will have to realize when I get to the top,

(42:56):
I will journey through high in the valley. I would
have to face the fact that there will be days
I will fall and bushes of thorns, and not only
would I get back up, but I will heal myself
along the way. Some days will be pitched black to
the points of me not seeing what's right in front
of me. But I believe each step of the way

(43:18):
that I'm going in the right direction, and with every
breath that I breathe. I know soon I will rest
and be proud of me. I will celebrate and be happy.
I would sit around and talk and laugh with the
ones that I know that loves me, only if it's
just me, Because after Oh, I'm the one that's facing

(43:39):
this big mountain alone, battling beasts of the mountains, fords
swimming with creatures and the streams, foraging for food, knowledge
to keep me fed and headstrong. Even in the midst
of this mountain storm, I would seek shelter to keep
dry and warm things when I see easy, But I yes,

(44:02):
I would push myself to limits that I didn't know exists,
falling up my fists, fighting with all things that hits
and hide behind rocks, not to be seen of the
things that they possess on you, to hurt you and
kill your spirits. Forgive them God, for they know not
what they do. I am on this journey alone. I

(44:25):
am on this journey to a safer home. I am
on this journey and it's just me. I am on
this journey. I can't wait to see the new need
on the other side of this mountain. Eye will be
free like the birds of the sky, protected like queen
by a high the bumble bees, esteem love like a

(44:46):
lion's cub, ready to achieve life after this steep mountain,
receiving everything I desire, All of my wants and all
of my needs will be met. I will succeed in
all of my hopes and in all and I mean
all of my dreams. That's that piece.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yes, yes, yes, First of all, honey, I want to
apologize for not being able to get that video up.
And because of that, I'm gonna make sure that we
get you either back up there on that screen or
we get you in one.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, I need you. I need I need you to
plant to plant, plant yourself in one of these seats,
and uh we we get we get another interview in
with you. I do apologize for that, for that technical
problem that we had. And yeah, looking forward to getting
you in here in a seat and and and interviewing
you soon again. But uh we gotta get ready to

(45:50):
end this. But before we do, honey, please give everybody
the info to get in touch with the phenomenal Grace
be with you.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
All. Disgrace Be with You can be found on Stakes
Desk as Grace Genre on kicktot as grace be with
you on Instagram amazing underscore? What is it? Amazing underscore?

(46:20):
Brace be with you? I got sick out it's something
like that. I'm sorry, but I don't even be on
Instagram like that.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
It's all right, honey. We just need to know how
to contact you if somebody wants. We just want to
let you put that out there. So uh, we show
enjoyed you being on the show and want to definitely
invite you to come out again and do something with it.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Like I said, I appreciate try, I have anything.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
We gotta get got you. I feel we could have
done better.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
I won't.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
I won't.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Said it's always yes, I definitely want to everybody. Yes,
all means.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Did you say I could have heard the last thing
you do you have?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Do you have anything that you want to put out
there as far as June teenth did before we get out.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Of here, a fucking word or just just just anything
that you gave.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
A few words about juneteenth if you would for as lust.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Okay, well I'll do ie wearing short probably telling me
y'all already heard before, but it's take me to a
place where the grass is greener. On the other time,
take me to a place where the urt ain't thinner,
and the birds can sing a tune of majestic music
like no beginner, and the sky has no chemical trails

(48:02):
produced by the governments system. Take me far away from
this place of death of war. Living here up underneath
this umbrella has gotten me wet, but only my face
because I'm facing this shit every single day. People dying,
people crying, the news in the media, keep lying, You trying,
and I'm trying, but I'm not buying that shit. And

(48:24):
the only way that you can convince me is to
tell me this is a nightmare from Elmstreet, and I
will wake up from all of it, believing genocide, tacticide,
vaccination or probation. You decide, justification, no filtration, flint still
don't have civilization, hydration. Google it if you think I'm lying.

(48:48):
We in a time with time, don't have time, and
everybody losing a fucking mind blowing up different countries. So
now we have Enemy five G in every major city
and the radiation and it's sucking with the frequencies of
my energy. And this is only the beginning of democracy,
proclamation of disparities, leaving me know whether the choice for

(49:10):
to voice my opinion on humanity. So who do you
see looking in the mirror of clarity? Who do you?
Who do you share for the image of decorativity? You me? She? Now,
y'all we need to be free, and that's the jultieth liberation,

(49:32):
all right, as.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Right, that's that piece, all right, y'all, this ischas Mo
and our beautiful guests. Y'all, y'all give it up for
the one and only great. All right, sweet dott it
was great having you as a guest man. We're gonna
get ready to get out of here. We love you guys,

(49:56):
Thank you so much for tuning in. Yeah, this is
what I.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Free rereadom are me me.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
It's the reality to our kids. Stuff they didn't win
with you. You can't tell them your thes.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Chichildren have had a little of us, the fact quite
like the loss of life.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Give it for me and you you they're not so
of course, to create their histtory of murder and kill
him strutt and back at home sometime

Speaker 3 (50:32):
What ourselfs went with or a all the lives that
were given something weep
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