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July 22, 2024 • 59 mins
THE HAIKU HOUR
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
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(01:57):
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Speaker 5 (02:29):
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was class PI.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
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Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's a whole guy.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's above with a game. For so much you have
on the bay. Si be for gave him, he for

(03:23):
gave him me.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Off.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
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(04:05):
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it like a black you can't hear your.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
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long wooed you to be bride.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
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Speaker 7 (04:55):
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Speaker 3 (05:19):
Time.

Speaker 8 (05:37):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, everybody. I go by the name of
v Queen, and I'd like to welcome you all to
the July fourth, Monday edition of The High coup Hour.
To my lovely left. I have a wonderful guest. He
goes by the name of Laurence Tate Senior.

Speaker 9 (05:55):
How we doing today?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Pretty good?

Speaker 9 (05:57):
Ride over right on right, So how's your day today?

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Pretty good?

Speaker 9 (06:00):
Thanks for ask No problem, No problem.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So do me a favor.

Speaker 9 (06:04):
Tell me about Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Well, it can take all day for me to tell
you about I know, we ain't got that much time. Well,
I'm just you know, it's a good question.

Speaker 10 (06:15):
With somebody actually tell you about themself, they usually say
their name. Yeah, you know, but I can tell you
that I'm a father, okay, you know, I'm a brother, uncle.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Today I can say these things.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 10 (06:27):
Also I'm not afraid to say I am a recovering
attic okay, you know, and by the grace of God,
I have twelve years clean.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
So you know what, very brave, very brave for you
to say that, because it's people out there that are
still struggling, and I see no shame in it, especially
when you can become a testimony. Remember when I first
met you, I called you a testimony king T You
ain't no PK, you a TK because you know, I

(07:02):
heard your story. I heard how you came from one
particular place in your life and you just you blew
them out the water. So what would you want to
say to the people who are struggling in that particular area.

Speaker 10 (07:15):
Well, first of all, help becomes available in the moment
that you asked for it, you know, and it's it's
it's like you.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Said, it's no shame in being an addict. The shame
is staying out there. You know.

Speaker 10 (07:28):
It's just very important that we let somebody know what
we're going through. Yeah, you know what, I'm saying, because
pride and shame of keep a person out there longer.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
You know, I heard hurt people, hurt people, and I
heard help people help people. So when you were out
in your situation, did you feel like alone, like there
was no resource.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. You know, I
come from good stock.

Speaker 10 (07:56):
What's that you know, our mama, daddy, you know what
I'm saying, right, had that. So it wasn't like I
verted out to do things because I.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Didn't come from a good family, right right, right. You know,
it's nobody that I could blame for my situation but myself.

Speaker 9 (08:10):
Okay, okay, if no, it does, no, it does, Oh
my god.

Speaker 8 (08:17):
You know, like because I just you know, I had
a situation where, you know, I served in the military,
and I know myself with alcoholism, you know, and I
was in an outpatient clinic with the Veteran Administration, and
I must say that was the best thing ever because
in there I was I was with a bunch of

(08:38):
addicts narcotics, sex, chocolate, whatever, you know, And I feel
like addicts.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Are one of the best teachers.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Well at it can best help another addict.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean, you can talk from experience and you
can be that counselor or that mentor. So I've seen
that happen, and I just want to take my hat
off to you because it's not an empathy or a
sympathy thing.

Speaker 9 (09:03):
It's what you went through. You overcame it, and you
can be a mentor to somebody. Have you been mentoring.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
I will say I wouldn't need to cut you off
about to overcame it, because it's an ongoing thing.

Speaker 9 (09:14):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I don't want to get to the point where I
say I overcame it. You know, I'm overcoming it one day.

Speaker 10 (09:19):
At a time, if that makes any sense, Okay, you know,
because it's still there.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
You know, I don't look like I got this thing beat.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (09:27):
I'm not exempt, you know what I mean, because I'm
one wrong decision away from a relapse.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
So you know I chase. I chase my recovery like
I chased it like I.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Used to chase the drugs.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
An ongoing thing. I like that.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
See testimony, King, you got some you just you just well.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
First, first of all, I want to commend you too
on twenty years, twelve twelve years, twelve years Okay, twelve years,
Ey twelve, me and myself, I got close to twenty,
and uh, it's it's a mind over matter thing for me.
I struggled with crack cocaine for almost six almost thirteen years,

(10:12):
and it wasn't It wasn't the sick and tired of
being sick and tired. It was one thing for me,
and it's in my book. It's in my book. Everybody
asked me what did I do? And that's what upseted
me a lot about the meetings and sitting around listening
to what they called war stories just didn't work for

(10:32):
me because they weren't war storage. That was you doing drugs. Okay,
you wanted some war stories. I can tell you some
war stories because I've been to war for real. But
what worked for me probably wouldn't work for everybody else.
And the thing that worked for me was simply I stopped.
I stopped. Did I struggle with stopping? Hell? Yeah, I

(10:54):
struggled with it. I struggled hard with it, but I stopped,
you know, and and and for and for Like I say,
for some people, what you do might not work for
everybody else, because every once in a while now I
still have a drink and I smoked marijuana often, but
it's not a trigger for me to go back to

(11:15):
doing cocaine again. I'll never touch that stuff again in
my life. And there's no way that anybody could tell
me anything different, you know. Like I say, recovery works
for everybody differently. Everybody's recovery is gonna be different. Everybody's
going to manage their recovery different than somebody else. Some
people can't still have a beer or something when they're

(11:40):
in recovery because it's a trigger for them. Alcohol was
never a trigger for me. Marijuana was never trigger for me.
Crack was a trigger, you know what I'm saying that
that that was that it was a trigger for me,
but it was a mine of a matter thing, you know.
And what really pissed me off was that I had

(12:00):
I came to the point and said, and you like
money too much, man, you know, and I like, I
love money, but I was giving my money to somebody else.
And then at some point it was like, you know, man,
that you need to stop. So I took it upon myself. Yes,
I did go to the v A. And and the

(12:20):
first day that they bought somebody in there to talk
to us, and he started talking about how much cocaine
he smoked. I want packed my stuff and got about it. There. See,
because you're not helping me standing up here telling me
about how much crack you smoke. If you wanted to
impress me, you should have came through the door talking
about how you stayed clean, not how many times you
went to the crackhouse to get that. You're telling my story.

(12:44):
I could have stood right behind you and said, you
want me to my next and I want me to
cut you off. Man.

Speaker 10 (12:50):
I'm glad you said what you said, because you said
what I try to tell other people.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
What works for me might not work for you.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Some people can smoke a weed, people can drink, and
they know that crack is what took him down through
the like.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
But for some people, they ain't messing with.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
No drink, they ain't messing with that's right, and that's
that's that that's the steps that they chose to take.
And I don't you know what if somebody say, man,
you still added, uh, did you see me with a
crack pipe in my hand? You know, yes, am I
still an addict, be an addict to the day I die,
because I was addicted to it, you know, once an addict,

(13:29):
always added, you know what I'm saying, once I added,
always added. But would I ever use it again?

Speaker 9 (13:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Can I safely say I'll never use it again? Yes,
because I'm not go never use that again. Period. You couldn't. No,
he just that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know.

Speaker 10 (13:50):
I appreciate you talking about, you know, being honest about
the recovery. And I don't want the whole story to
be about the recovery thing.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Because because it was.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It was it was an opening, you know, it was
an I like what you said about.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Don't nobody want to hear about how much dope? Right?

Speaker 9 (14:12):
What?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Hope? What did you do to stay clean?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
You know?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Come on, I'm sorry you did. Looking at him doing
like this, I asked, That's what I'm okay, you you know,
give me, give me, give me, tell me you know
what you're doing to stay like you are now you're
looking well, tell me how you got to that point?
What don't I don't want to hear what took you
to your downfall? Already? Know that?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
You why I'm in here talking about?

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:41):
You know you dot make me run out.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
And don't stay today house come on, now, don't.

Speaker 9 (14:47):
Birthdays?

Speaker 10 (14:50):
Well that's a good question. You know, I was born
June the second, okay, my clean. I stopped using drugs
December to twenty six, Okay, you know, so I counted.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
That twenty eleven, so I counted it as my born day.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
No.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, I'm happy when my birthday come around.

Speaker 10 (15:12):
I'm older, you know what I'm saying. But when December
to twenty six is just something more special to me
because it's the day that I surrendered right, right, you know,
it's the.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Day that I went to rehab, right, and you know it,
and I always remember that day. You know, it's after Christmas.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
You know.

Speaker 10 (15:28):
It's like you say, born again, you know. So it's
like I'm not forty three years old.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm twelve. And it's actually the age I started using
at twelve.

Speaker 8 (15:39):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (15:40):
So when I started using at twelve, my body and
my brain stopped at twelve.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
So here it is. I was a forty three year
old man in a twelve.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Years you old body with a twelve year old mind,
twelve year old man with.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
The twelve years clean. I'm learning more and I'm learning more,
you know what I mean. So that's why I tell people.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm twelve years old, yep, and and and and and
I want I'm I'm gonna throw something met you. I'm
gonna throw something met you, and that I mean this
from my heart. I'm waiting for the day when I
see you, when you don't have to remember that birthday
no more. You know, you want you will, trust me,

(16:20):
you will get to that point to where you get
to the point you say, I don't even have to
think about recovery anymore, because you are recovery. You know
what I'm saying. I'm not saying, don't still celebrate your
clean time. I'm saying, I want to.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I want to see you today when it's not that
I'm here. I have I've done it, you know, and
I don't have to look back no more. And still
say I am I'm in recovery. I am recovery.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
But but it's it's a process. It's it's a process.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
It's a process because you.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Have to tell nobody that because he said, I am
I am recovery. You know, when you get to that point,
you don't have to you don't even have to look
back on your past no more. You know, you don't
even have to look back on your past no more.
It was a part of your life. And the best
thing about it is when you do have to look

(17:18):
back down, it'll be a victory conversation that you have
with somebody when you do bring it up, it'll be
it be all about the victory. But I'm I'm just
elated that you're making me talk about it, because I
ain't talked about it so long, you know. But that
just shows that growth. That's all that it would be quiet.
It's gone a something.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Come.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
Okay, So that's a chapter in your life you recover.
Can you recall the first thing you did after it?

Speaker 11 (17:48):
Well, first thing I did, you know, I had two
I had tattoo tear drops on my face, you know,
I had three over.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Here going over here. Ain't killed nobody, you know, just
just trying to fit in young penitentiary, you know, trying
to you know.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
But he did just I'm sorry, but he did just
let you know that he knew what those tear drops
actually do mean on your face.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
The first thing I did was I sucks.

Speaker 10 (18:18):
I seek to help, and I got some people that
helped me get them removed.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Okay, you.

Speaker 10 (18:25):
See that they go look and that's when that's that's
when everything started happening for me. You know, I felt
good about going on job interviews. You know, I've been
on my job now for twelve years.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
That number twelve keep popping up though, twelve keep popping up.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Job.

Speaker 10 (18:46):
I get to help people that's homeless down at the
Saint Patrick Center.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
That's right that place.

Speaker 10 (18:50):
You know. Okay, it's been I don't dread going to work,
you know, it's it's the first job I've had, you know,
so it's.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
A blessing job. And that's my first job and planning
on returning.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
How many people can say that because I'm job better me?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, okay, So.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
You're doing.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
Something that a lot of people, some people want. I
love doing that. I love helping out people.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
You know, I've been a social worker, and I love
to give people that closure in life or that validation.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
Of like, yeah, I did what I could. I ain't
anybody calling us in yet, want to call in? I
don't worry about that anyway.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
You recovered, you got a job.

Speaker 9 (19:38):
You're like, what else you're doing these days?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Taking care of my kids?

Speaker 9 (19:41):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
You know you follow me on social media? I do
three kids.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I got a one year old, Yes, I do.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Six year old, you.

Speaker 10 (19:49):
Do it in the nine year old, in the sixth
and the nine year old. I got full custody of
them too, okay, you know since they was born.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
So what it's like being a dad.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
It's the most beautiful feeling in the world.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
And people ask me about going back to the recovery thing.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
Did you get clean for your I say no, I
didn't have kids when I got clean, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
So it's like they make it. They make it worth
the while or staying clean though, yeah, yeah, you know
what that make.

Speaker 9 (20:19):
No, it does, It's just just.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
A little My kids is smart, honor roll kids.

Speaker 10 (20:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
I don't know how they I don't know where they
got the smartness from.

Speaker 9 (20:29):
But don't do that, brother, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Don't be that guy. But don't be that guy.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Good kids.

Speaker 9 (20:35):
Man, you got all boys.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Got three boys, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (20:39):
Okay, so you got three boys. You love being a father,
love your job.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
How you doing spiritually? Spiritually? I'm doing real good.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm not finish sit until you'll go
to church on Sundays or nothing like that.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
You know, because when you say you know how you're
doing spiritual? They be like, well, I've been in church
five years.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Come on, now, I'm in a good space.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
Okay, okay, that's what it's all about, you know, meditation, prayer. However,
that looks okay, okay, so education, talk to me about that.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
Remember I was just telling you before we started to
show that I'm going to get my high school to plum.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
You know.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
And see I ain't even I thought people just you know,
if you didn't go to high school, you went to
get your gen.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
I was kind of.

Speaker 10 (21:32):
You, see I how can I say that I'm getting
my high school the phone because of me?

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, because I wanted you know, I got. My job
is required that we have a high school diploma, you know.
And what what God got for you? He got for you.

Speaker 10 (21:50):
Every everybody at my job, So everybody at my job
got master degrees, doctor degrees, sociate's degree.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
All I got his first degrees.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Come okay, all right, And I'm saying that to say that,
like I said, what God got for you, he got
for you.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
You know, they hired me this job, hired me when
I was on.

Speaker 10 (22:14):
Parole, you know, gave me a chance. And I'm not
indebted to them, but you know they gave me a
chance when nobody else, right, right, right. I do know
that high school diplomer.

Speaker 11 (22:29):
Would take me farther, if that makes any sense, because
I did have goals.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
To be drug counselor or you know, maybe you know
I thought about that field. You know, I'm helping people.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Now without without the paper now, yeah, but you got
the experience.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
You know, you got the experience, got accepted the Habitat
for Humanity five years ago and built the house my kids,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
So it's like all the things a person go to
school for.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
God has already God, yeah, God, Yeah, Okay, that's great.

Speaker 9 (23:07):
It makes purpose sense.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
So you know I heard about people just literally going
to get their ged, but you're going through the high
school process, like you're literally going to.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
School every day Monday and Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
Okay, So what do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Are you? Are you?

Speaker 10 (23:31):
I'm excited about Nice school because I dropped out in
the eighth grade.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
You know, I was supposed to go to Roosevelt, you know,
but unfortunately, you know, things had.

Speaker 10 (23:42):
Happened and I went to prison, and I could have
got my ged while I was there.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
But I decided to hang with the wrong crowd.

Speaker 10 (23:50):
And this high school diploma is I like this atmosphere
because I'm actually in the school study.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, it's a che there's other kids. It's not kids,
it's other grown ups there in the classroom, and you know,
and it's giving me a chance.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
To you know, network.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
So have you met I guess I don't want to
say friends because I don't even title that like that,
but you met people you think you can kind of
remain in contact with.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, man, you know because the class each each term.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
Is like six weeks, so in that's six weeks I'm
in their class with the same people. So we at
the end of the term, we all have a little
gift together and we might have some food or something
like that at the end term, and we keep in
touch with each other.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:37):
If a person don't come to class two times, you know,
we call and check on them and make sure they.

Speaker 9 (24:42):
Are right right, right right.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
You know, Hey, you only got four days.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Some of the people I grew up with. I see
people in the class that I grew up with.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
What does that make you feel like?

Speaker 10 (24:51):
It makes me feel good because it shows me that
I'm not the only one that dropped out of school
at a young age.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have to beat myself up about it.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
You should, right, you know, So, what what do your
parents think of this transformation?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Where my parents are? Man? You know, I had to
resentment against my parents because of the things I did.
But they're my number one fans. Okay, okay, you know
they number one fans. I can call my mama right now,
actually for one thousand dollars and she say, boy, what's
your cat?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
You know she is?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
But I just be playing with it.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
But I can remember twelve years ago I couldn't get
ten till ten dollars.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, come on, you the uncle.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Let me explain why I applauded that. Let me explain
why I applauded that. You know what's just called when
you're an addict, It's called tough love.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It's called tough love because my mama had to do
me the same way. You know what I'm saying. Not now,
if she was still here today, I call and ask
her for anything. You know, As long as you know
I'm on the straight, man, we ain't nothing in the
world I can't get from. But let me called her
a few twenty four hours. I was going ask off
for something.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
You built your trust back, Yeah, and the moment you
got on straight and narrow.

Speaker 8 (26:12):
I want to know what that relationship was like when
when your mom found out and she was, you know,
because sometimes people be playing I'm for real this time, mama,
But she knew that.

Speaker 10 (26:21):
She said that because it wasn't intok, five years of
sobriety until my mama gave me a keycher her house.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You know, just because I had thirty days that process.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
A year old, he might be serious. Two years old,
he was.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
You know, five year mark, that's process her, boy, keep
your house.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
You know it took.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
It was a process because I've tried to do I've
tried to get clean before, only.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
To do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
And most of the time when we do that, when
we go in and we fail, it'll be because we're
doing it for the wrong reason, wrong reason. And that's
the only way you go fail that recovery is doing
it for the wrong reason. It was like those two
week programs. I told him, I said, I ain't gonna
win a w Well, I'm staying there, I said, because
one you're gonna need more than two weeks to save
your life. You know what I'm saying. Two weeks ain't

(27:12):
gonna do nothing for you. If you go to it.
If you go to get in a program to save
your life, you go lead at least two three months
in that facility, because two weeks ain't gonna do nothing
for you. Now, if you go to a two week program,
we'll tell you why you're there. You're there for one
or two reasons. Either you're about to get fired from
your job or lose your gap or both or both,

(27:33):
and those are for all the wrong reasons. If you
don't go in there for you, you go fail every time.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Now, you said you you know, so what are you
in sobriety before I had kid?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
So?

Speaker 8 (27:50):
What what was the turning point where you said? I
mean because obviously I don't think you guys cared about
death at this time.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That wasn't It wasn't the last was the last?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
It wasn't at the top of.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
Overdosing any of that.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
No, No, you didn't. When you're when you're on on
that journey, you know, that's the last thing you think
about it is overdose, you know. And and my sister did, Yeah,
what my sister did. Yeah, And it was something that
she said to me that really made me decide that,

(28:28):
you know, it's that time. And this was right before
my sister did. It was about a month or so
before she odd, because I had her out to my
house and I was trying to get her right, you know,
but you can't force recovery on nobody. They have to
want it for themselves. And my sister called me from
my mama house. She told me, I ain't got no
more runs. And when she told me that, when she

(28:48):
told me that a month later, she o d But
she said, I ain't got no more runs to me
if I go out there again, because she was in recover.
She said, I ain't got no more runs to me.
If I go out there again, it's.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
Go kill me.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
It didn't kill it, yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
But she said I ain't got no more rhyns than me.
He said, I ain't got no more runs. If I
go back out there, it's gonna kill wow. Well, and
that stuck with me, that stuff because that was my
best friend, you know, And that stuck with me. That
sticks with me to this day. And was that a
motivating factor to me stopping? Yes, But when it happened
to her. Did I stop? No, But it was a

(29:26):
motivating factor because that thought stuck in my head, that
just kept saying, I ain't got no more rhymes if
I kept here, and I say that to me, And
that was a motivating fact to me to say, you
know what, I just need to stop, you know, because
the program ain't gonna help me. Just sitting in here
listening to these war stories and being around people that

(29:46):
don't do nothing but talk about how many bags they
used to pick up and all this is not helping me.
You need to stop it. You need to do this
for yourself. And the only person that can do this
for you is you. And that was almost that was
nineteen years ago. Wow, ain't touch the sence and.

Speaker 9 (30:03):
You had a lot of friends pass away because.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
It is real. Yeah, yeah, well that's why they that's
that'll be for another show. That that's that's that's a
whole that's a whole nother show. Because that's right.

Speaker 9 (30:22):
So your father cover your testimony, King, What do you
do as leader?

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Like?

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Do you write poetry? Do you sing songs?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Right?

Speaker 10 (30:31):
I do poetry, like I was telling him before we started. Yet,
but the thing that I was doing which I didn't
want to get.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Myself in trouble. I was just doing it for myself.
Like I rap over other people beats.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
There ain't nothing wrong with that. You There ain't nothing
wrong if you do that. If you do that, you
know how you wrap over other people beats and make
it feel good and successful? You do a mixtape and
just sell them yourself to people. You ain't gotta put
them out in no way, just make you. That's what
they called them, man. They just make you a mixed
flask drive and share your music. People say, I'm selling
my mixtapes, you know. And you can rap over anybody

(31:06):
beat you want to, as long as you're doing it
for as a mixtape. You know what I'm saying. Now,
if they get it and decide they want to play
it for somebody, that's on them.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
No, that would be on them.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's that's not on you, because one you ain't You
didn't put them in stores or nothing. You know, that's
what that's that's how people did. That's how master peing
them got started without going through all that stupid process.
They sold their music right out the trunk of their car.
And if you using somebody else's beat you just call
it a mixtape. You didn't even gotta make it.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Call it a name.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Say it's a mixtape for other people's music, would be
rapping on them, you know. And and go for it.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
But don't hide your gift.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Man, if you gotta get set that ball the boy,
share that bad boy, because you've came far enough and
you've put in the work to share your work. So
don't don't worry about what's what copywriting for it. Just
don't try to make it global and all that. Sell
it to your friends.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Listen to my family, listen to it.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I got plenty of stuff that I did over other
people's music.

Speaker 9 (32:10):
If you track know, I like the Bob you know, well,
he be he be all over people tracks. You just hurt, fine,
I'll be all.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I do portry. That's I do poetry over tracks because
I like to put my poetry with music because it's
like doing a song, and I can remember him faster,
will be okay, because I know what my words go
with the beat of the music, so it's easier for
me to remember it when I do it with music,
you know. So and being in the music, man, that's

(32:42):
a that's a that's one thing if you got that,
if you got that that that that skill or that talent,
and and you bought yourself through the trials that me
and you went through to get to where we are. Now,
that's something you should one of me. I'm more than
happy to listen.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
You just know when you when the truth, don't need
no support.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Right, absolutely, absolutely, But you remember what work go goes.
Absolutely absolutely, you're in front of.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
The whole crowd, you won't forget the words or nothing
like that because you know it.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why you notice I
always do my poetry with music. Now, once once I
get it and I start doing it with music, and
I've done it a few times with it, then I
won't need the music anymore because I know I know
the song. I know that song by hall.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah. I been got past that bigger room phone and.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
Read my stuff off the phone like a lot of
people do it. Whichever works for you, just like I
like to come straight from.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
The that's that's that's that's that's that's what you do
at an open mic. Yeah, you use your phone, paper,
stuff like that. But when you're performing, no, you Yes,
you gotta go out there and and do what you
need to do. So so, so talk to me a
little bit more about your love for music and and

(34:15):
and what got you into wanting to pursue it.

Speaker 12 (34:18):
To be honest with you, I had tea spirit you know,
okay to this when I first met by and uh my.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
My poetry was a rap form. It was called I
Don't Want to Die okay, and I saw that they
was doing poetry.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So what I did.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I had it in a rap version and I had
it in the poetry version.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
So I did it at one of my recovery events
and t Spirit she said, man, I didn't know you.
I didn't know you could do that.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yes, she's hot.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
You need to come with me.

Speaker 10 (34:53):
And she told me about it, I think with Friday
night and I was kind of early on and you know,
and I didn't want to be a around no bars
or nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
She say, no, it's cool you all right, I'm in there.
I don't drink, you know.

Speaker 10 (35:06):
So I went and I got up on the mic,
and I felt comfortable because other people went before me,
and I was like, I can do that right, And
then I just always put the easy E fan U GK.
You know, the old school of bone thugs and harmony,
and I know how to rap about that street life stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
But God didn't bring me this far a rap like that.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Okay, okay, you know so all.

Speaker 10 (35:32):
My raps that I got a testimonies, you know it
ain't got no cuss words in them. You know what
I mean, because I know how and it ain't. I
didn't planning on writing it without cuss words. That's just
the way the spirit had led it to come out.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
So my songs and.

Speaker 9 (35:52):
You can hear it. You can hear every word, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
And that's what.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I like.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I think I like to call it gospel rap. I
think I c I can put I can see his
gospel rap.

Speaker 10 (36:04):
Testimonial rap is not talking about killing nobody, ain't talking
about no sex and nothing like that. It's just talking
about my testimony and you know, things that I've been
through and how it overcame 'em.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Right. Oh yeah, I definitely wanna because that has a market.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, I know you gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Oh well, you know, I'm I'm I. I love music.
I've been around it all my life. Uh and and
I got a few tracks that I've that I've done.
I'm working on a few now. I'm trying to get
this gospel album finished and get it out here. But
I love sharing. I love sharing my gift because I

(36:48):
almost lost my gift. Mm mm. So that's why I
love sharing it because I almost lost it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
So that's that's that's that's what you got a talent
it you gonna lose it?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And if and if and if you
choose to take the road that that we took for
long times in our lives, you know, because that's that's
a lot of time lost. It that was a lot
of time lost. And that's one of the reasons why
I do what I do now with the podcasts and
promoting shows and stuff, because actually a lot of people

(37:21):
don't know us. I'm living vicariously through other people because
my wouldn't do it ain't closed, but it ain't as
wide as it was, you know, years ago, when you know,
when I should have been, you know, really concentrating on
trying to make a career out of my music and
writing and stuff. Instead of doing that, I was, you know,

(37:43):
procrastinating and using drugs instead of you know, trying to
hone my craft.

Speaker 10 (37:49):
You know, I want to say something about that, man,
because I had a chance to be in the group.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
M you know, a while back of it, like five
of us.

Speaker 10 (37:59):
She wanted to dress the same, you know, same long
white T shirts and whatnot, and somebody had wanted to
She said, if anybody ever come to y'all, y'all a group,
you know, but somebody had wanted to sign, just somebody
had just wanted me and not.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
The whole group. I was young, thirteen, fourteen, I didn't
know what. But I'm saying as to say, man that
I'm glad that I didn't join the rap.

Speaker 10 (38:25):
Game back then, because what we was rapping about was
we didn't have no business rapping about anyway.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Thank God that he allowed me to be a dolpte.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
Thing, because had I not been a dope thing, I
would have been out there, still hustling, still slang and
still in the game, and.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Somebody would have murdered me, you know. And that's why
I don't. I don't, I don't.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
I know.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
God did that for a reason for you to survive.

Speaker 10 (38:51):
It ain't nobody trying to ride no dope thing that
it ain't got that right, you know, Because had I
stayed out there, man, I wouldn't be here today.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
That's just that's just my story.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
But I can I can feel that. I would rather
say that he allowed you to make that choice, and
then when you made that choice, he decided it was
the wrong one and pulled you up out of it. Okay,
because that's why he ain't eat That's one thing that
he said he will not do it. He will. He
won't mess with free will. He gonna let you do
what it is that you want to do. But if

(39:24):
it's not what he had planned for you, he'll pull
you out of it. You just got to acknowledge the
fact that he's pulling you out of it and stop,
you know, persistent, and don't don't. Man, if he put
his foot on your neck, you better feel it better
that he put on there.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
No regrets, cash none, But I wouldn't sit here and say,
if I go back, I do it all again.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
No, but I have.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I have no regrets because that part, that portion of
my life made me the man that I am today,
which is a way better man than I was. So
it was, it had it had to be done. Oh
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Regrets, regrets, I write what he said. It made me
who I am. Today.

Speaker 10 (40:22):
Okay, you know everybody that known me out there, you know,
the people are still alive.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
You know, I don't all no apology to him that.

Speaker 10 (40:32):
I've always been respected. You know, some people just was
in disbelief right because he's always talked, don't get have
off your own supply. You know, if you know, that's
what they said, don't get high, you don't get your
own supply. And it's like the people that I grew
up with, you know, some of them, some of them
is doing pretty good, but most.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Of them are not here. Hmmm. Most of them are
not alive.

Speaker 9 (40:57):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (40:58):
And sometimes I ask my I said, why me? The
same dope they used is the same dope I use?
Mm hm, you know, And for me to go back
out there messing around in God's face.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Let's sit on that. I let you have it.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
They can have it, run with it, go go for
O g to me whatever.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
I'm thankingful that they you know, acknowledge that or whatever
they canna have it.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
It' it's it's it's rough, but it's like you know, so,
so my question is that got a question? What did
it feel like the very first time when you knew
I can't wait to turn this corner, went around somewhere
with the last place they seen you, you was down
and they knew it. But you hit that corner, turned

(42:02):
that corner and said, I can't wait to these I
can't wait till they see me. Now you turn that corner.
Scene they expression old people's face. It's gonna be a
heck of fulfilling, man, especially for those that were doubters.
Those that were doubters that will say, you go.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Yeah, I doubt it myself.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
You you'd already clear that hurt.

Speaker 10 (42:25):
But when somebody see me, they see me. But the
thing is, I haven't revisited like I haven't revisited the neighborhood, Like, hey,
look at me, because I know people will get me
high before I get them clean.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Some people don't care about you getting your life together,
especially the dope man. You don't care you went to rehab,
right right, that's true, that's true. None of the first
one free people ain't man.

Speaker 10 (42:54):
You ain't getting had no more. Man here you can
get some money off this pack. You know, some people
are just to try to pull you back. You know,
I just keep it moving, man, Not that I'm not
better than nobody, right, just.

Speaker 9 (43:07):
Right, They try to remind you of the person you
used to be. And that's the thing right now, right
happened last week?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Last week?

Speaker 10 (43:14):
Yeah, I seen somebody paying handling and I pulled up.
You know what I'm saying, one of them cadillacs clean.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
You know, ain't man? You act like you better than
you maybe used to. I say, man, I know we
used to get hot together.

Speaker 10 (43:27):
That was thirty years ago. Not really keep holding it
over my head. I'm not finna keep giving you twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Every time I see it every time.

Speaker 10 (43:35):
You know, well, because I felt a guilty in the
beginning because I did used to get hot with these brothers.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I used to do robberies and stuff with these guys.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Right, but you know that was the path.

Speaker 9 (43:46):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
But now I work at treatment centers, recovery house. I'm
able to say, all right, man, I tell you what
my number. I could get you in the rehab.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I can get you right. But but again I said
it earlier. But again now, if they come to you,
that's fine. But but but I wouldn't even offer it.
How do you come? Because if you offer recovery to somebody,
it's like you're trying to force it. On. If they
don't come to you, don't do the brown and grouping,

(44:23):
don't do the brown and browner, they don't come to you,
don't go to then to stop like it right there? Yes, yes, yes,
I'm not gonna come looking for you. I am. I
refuse to come looking for you because I'm not gonna

(44:45):
come and say, look here, man, you've been doing this
too long. You know what if you can't look in
the mirror at yourself and say, look here, man, you've
been doing this too long, you know, because don't let
somebody else come and tell you. You know you've been
doing and it's too damn long. If it gets to
that point, you know it's a problem, you know it.

(45:06):
But if you really want it and you know it's coming,
the first person that's gonna tell you is that time.
It's gonna be you. That's gonna be the first person
to tell you. It's gonna be you, because if that
don't happen, it ain't gonna happen. If that don't happen,
it ain't it's not gonna happen. Because if you don't
put you first, it's over with. You can you cannot

(45:30):
go into recovery for nobody but yourself. It has to
be for you and only you. So by all means, bro,
I want to listen to some of your music, even
if I don't get to do it, because right after
this when I got another podcast, I got an engineer.
But I definitely want to make sure I get your
info and whenever you get ready to showcase some of

(45:53):
your music, you get with me and we can come
sit right here and play your music, play your mixtape.
You know what I'm saying. And if they decide to
dispute it on YouTube, I'll just go on there and
dispute it. But for that night, it's go go live,
you know.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
So if you want to come down. Man, So I
only got like two or three.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Well we will start then we'll do We'll do a
few of yours and a few of mine. Yeah, no,
we we'll do some of yours and some of mine,
just to def just like were talking now, because you
know what this was. This was a journey, man, This
was a journey, and it was a successful one, you know,
because we got a successful story. We went from someplace

(46:35):
where we didn't want to be to someplace where we're happy.
Where we at we used to actually say we were happy,
you know, so I commend you, boy, I commend you
at this time.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Had it had to have to happen. Sometimes things happen
for a reason, you know. And like you said, it's
not like like I said earlier, it's not that he said, Okay,
do this and then I'm gonna pull you out of it.
You chose to take that bron you know. But when
he put his foot on you and told you know,
it's about time for you to take that cotton out

(47:13):
your out your ears and put it in your mouth?
Did go slow?

Speaker 8 (47:18):
At what part during your journey of the addictive situation
you're talking.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
About out when you're out there, one day seemed like fever.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (47:29):
One day out there seemed like fail. But this journey,
this this recovery thing has shot like this twelve years.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Is shot by.

Speaker 10 (47:37):
So it's like, wow, I got clean when I was thirty. Okay,
I'm forty three years old, and it's like.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Like wow, it's just it's just shot by.

Speaker 10 (47:50):
But all the time, life was always life, you know,
I just didn't really care too much about it, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
It's like at once, I now that I can I
can see clearly now like life, life been life, life
all right, life all right. It's just now I can
say life been there. I can say I showed up
for life.

Speaker 9 (48:14):
I showed up for it. Now that's a momb drop.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Life always been there. I just showed up for it
and I participated in it.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
Tell me about what your kids doing sports, I'm gonna
be I'm gonna tell you something, man. My kids mother
then six year old in a nine year old, she
was struggling with addiction.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
We both tried to do this thing together. We met
in recovery, you.

Speaker 10 (48:38):
Know, but she decided that that she wanted to go
back after and as a result, I had got cussy.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Of my kids, both of them. And this is the
first year that she's had the kids all summer long.

Speaker 10 (48:54):
You talk about prayers, you know, she's she just celebrated
a couple of years of sobriety.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Well, yoa, and you'll playing your answer then.

Speaker 10 (49:06):
And I'm talking about my kids. Is the longest I've
been away from my kids?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Okay, come on, well you know what then? That means
mom must be doing something right.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
All of a sudden, they with their mom.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
That that that's that that that's basically a proud moment,
because that means that she must be doing something right
if they not, you know, if they're not complaining and
ready to come. So she keeping it strong, and that's
a good thing. So I commend on that because it's
it's a rough road man to to to go through
that and and see the light at the other end
and be able to celebrate it. So yeah, if you

(49:48):
went through that with her and now you feel safe
enough to let the kids be back, then both of
you deserves your kudos now because you're both doing real well.

Speaker 10 (49:56):
And the other day, don't worry about the school uniforms.
She's gonna get them school uniforms this year.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Okay, just excited about that because them things special.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yes they are. Yeah, well it's beach p of flyers
and big college shirts and jackets that look like your
mom took the curtains down out.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
First grade and third grade.

Speaker 9 (50:23):
But it's expensive that that a.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
And I'm excited they got accepted in its charter school
over here. Okay. You know, I've been trying to get
them in there for the last two years.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Okay, you know, so I'm excited about it.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Still St. Louis Public School, of course, but they got.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
Sports and they got more things diversity of diverse.

Speaker 8 (50:43):
So I'm excited about that proud dad testimony, king I
love it turns to a book or.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Book or next you don't bother it up and where
you called me and asked me this.

Speaker 10 (50:58):
Sometimes my man telling me, don't nobody want to hear nothing?
I got to say, ain't nobody but you, But you
showed me somebody is watching it. You know, when you're
on social media or whatever you're doing, somebody is watching you,
touching somebody you know, and for you to say, hey,
I want to do a podcast which I want to
talk to you. You know, I don't volunteer to share nothing.

(51:21):
I don't raise my pick me, pick me, I'll go
down there and talk to him.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I'll go share my story. I'll do this, I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I don't do that. But when somebody asked me, hey,
you mind coming to share and talk to the kids
at the school, I still have to say me, you know,
And then it shows.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
Me that God is God is saying you're working working through.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Why you want to hear what you got to say
five years ago?

Speaker 9 (51:53):
You know, I heard the song, I heard the testimony.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I loved it.

Speaker 9 (51:58):
I've been watching you. Okay, it's a different I don't
troll now body, but I.

Speaker 8 (52:04):
I I've seen your growth and I I just personally
want to command you and I just appreciate.

Speaker 9 (52:09):
You life from the bottom of my heart.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I called it that time.

Speaker 9 (52:20):
What else you want to tell us?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
What?

Speaker 9 (52:22):
What else is going on in your lovely world?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I think we hit on a lot of stuff. Yeah,
like I said about the I sell it. Just celebrated
six years of being a homeowner.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Okay, okay, I deserve the time.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Forty five want to be a homeowner. But God saw fit.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's good. That's good.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
And I'm saying it's to say.

Speaker 10 (52:48):
What God got for you, he got for you, Cause
I was trying to buy a house. Antie say, boy,
won't you won't you go down to Habitat for Humanity.
You might can get accepted. You know, you got good
credit there. You know they sold me a house for
one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. I helped build it,
you know. So I'm just celebrated my six year anniversary there.

(53:10):
You know, I ain't had no issues with.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
The house or nothing.

Speaker 10 (53:14):
Like that, and I'm just thankful. How's it going, brother,
I'm just thankful man that for the first time in
my life, like I just had a relationship that ended.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
No, I'm going, oh no, look at the look at
the good things.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
It looks.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
The good thing about it was I didn't have to
pack mmm, a lot.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Of a lot of people that and go get a
lot that's gonna go over with a lot of people
in everything at one that's gonna go with a lot
of people. Ever beside, I didn't have to pack. I
respect it. Wow, that had to be a great feeling, man,

(54:14):
he said, I have to go.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
I got gratitude when I realized I didn't have to
pack up. I don't have to go.

Speaker 10 (54:21):
Poe called and saying I have to get out my
mom coming back home, you know, because my name is
my name is everything.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Yeah, wow, you know, And that's what I ain't nothing
like that.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Ain't nothing like that feeling, man, beautiful. See just see
that's that's look. Ain't nothing like that feeling when it
happens like that, I wouldn't know.

Speaker 13 (54:42):
But right, you know, but I'm what you called. It
happened to me and and I was like I satt
on the couch for man, I said, hold up, I
have to think about this is my motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I'm sorry, this is my I ain't gotta and they
all looked over there and say you gotta gotta go.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
That was a wonderful feeling because.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
Just because twelve years ago I could think have one bag, today,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Need a couple. You off.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Hey, you just bought back a half the time. Man,
just yeah, but I just went back man everything else.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
He just made me.

Speaker 9 (55:30):
When we call him, I'm gonna say this high cool.
What a high coop is is basically a condensed and
we what we do.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
Well, what I'm doing, I'm summarizing our interaction in the
form of syllables.

Speaker 9 (55:45):
Fifteen is to go five seven five.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Hi.

Speaker 9 (55:48):
My name is v just whatever you know. So this
is what I got for you, testimony King many doubted underdog.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Let see within.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
So much.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
I respect you so much, and I've seen you, and
I just won't let you know you have been seen.
I've seen you since I'm gonna say day one because
that's my encounter with you, and I've saw it in
your eyes. I saw that hurt, I saw that pain,
I saw that triumph testimony king many doubted underdog legacy

(56:28):
within you got.

Speaker 9 (56:32):
And you're gonna keep and to that is gonna be
that testimony. You understand me.

Speaker 8 (56:40):
So the last one is do unto others fair exchange
out there in them streets me metamorphous change, because that's
what you did.

Speaker 9 (56:52):
You were once out there in that world. You were
doing god knows what. You probably didn't have a care
and a where. Look at you, Look at you now,
So that's my gift to you. You are appreciated.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Mm hmm, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
So when you do a little song, But Casmo, what
you got before we wrap everything up?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Uh, well, you know, I really didn't do a high
cool I didn't. I didn't write, I didn't write anything.
Because you're the high cool artist. I'm just the still
a babe in a high cool world. So what you
did was awesome. We're gonna turn this back over to you, brother,
and let everybody know if you want us to get

(57:37):
in touch with you your information or social media.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Platform, I'm okay, I just I'm kind of like old school.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
It makes two of us. But if you want to
be followed, you know, you know, you really don't care
if you follow or Okay, it works. It works for me.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Bro I take breaks from days off, get back on it.
You know.

Speaker 9 (58:05):
You gotta get back on Facebook to connect with this man.
So you guys can exchange.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Right right right, Well we'll exchange that before we get
out of here. So it's on you love what you do.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
So, ladies and gentlemen, I am v queen. I want
to thank you Lawrence for being our guess for the
July edition. You can always come back on the show
any time you're gonna talk about any day. I'm signing out, y'all.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Watch me, physical.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Said, and my I know a momintment now explain to
see Jesus in my.

Speaker 10 (59:04):
My Davie year.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Why did you

Speaker 4 (59:16):
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