j savage tribute

tribute to J Savage

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
You shake again, you shake, yeah, you shay, Yeah, fuck
you're quick.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I got my brother, my cleaning, my come my.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Body, candy, fat the knuckle, trust my love.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Take.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
I got my brother, come leading, my crip, come my coy, put.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
The knuckle up and look who had trust my lock
my love. Yeah, bless the fantasy, my killer in the face.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, rowdy chicken, while you're fronting one your pay Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Rebel gang blafe, Honey, that's a gang.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Set my paper by my beingess fuckings, tying bitch. I
wrote try and sell me.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
I just wrote line them up and knock him down.
I treated old like down my nose, give my focus,
man and tired. I don't make friends, un my thoats.
Seeing you claim mistakes, I pray your people get exposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let them know.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
I mean, anybody getting better when them alone the shoots
the better than them Stone.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I can't have been back in the second if I
can figure my enemy get a ready this friend of
my chemistring the matter packet the piece and and I'm
looking at it when they told me the cause, when
they but they put.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
The dream and belive me tricking another game and.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
The winner to the part jumped in the ride of
the beat, like raiding the ass, and I feel like
you with the fire of the sixth alive, but three
of the sime like they see me, and I'm getting
like and that it was easy. We never been broken
up with down in the girl's probably gonn broke your clean.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I got my brother in my cot They clumb my buddy.
Can't it be the knuckle?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Nothing's so hot?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Never trust my love. I got my brother's in my cote.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Tripping, buy my bucket, Come by that the knuckle, love
me nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
I'm so hot.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Never trust my love.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Okay, I don't need nobody else around me, Bitch, I
got my brothers. I'll trust some motherfucker.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Are you niggas on the cool slip with niggers undercovers
bad and boosie bitches lovers for on the fuck with
out a rubber bitch must take dad.

Speaker 8 (02:08):
I'm gonna suck that.

Speaker 9 (02:09):
Don't play me fucking on lame.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I got my gang of.

Speaker 9 (02:12):
Business, bitch, we do no spit boxing leaving stains a.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Business bitch, blood sucker, motherfucker show my fings a business.

Speaker 9 (02:18):
Bitch gotta scope on my ah.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm blong ranging up the motherfucker want to get get
in and I'm gone.

Speaker 7 (02:23):
Fellows, take a minute to get in the back of
packing the back to the back of the life.

Speaker 9 (02:26):
You notice fact that I'm gonna give me your pack of.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
That strong niggas want to pick up the game, but
I'm a niggas a bag like the Biggie Songki bitch, keep.

Speaker 9 (02:32):
Blowing my line, saver, but no, no mind, and she
can't wait to give me that ball. Humph Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Ride to the loop with the folk, like a traveling
a mile of the blow, like a passing this out
with your whole like she want to deep down and
the thought like, oh shit is too easy.

Speaker 9 (02:43):
All of you niggas too bumming. You're peasy fucking the
round with one of my brothers. I promise you niggas
would't never rest any time.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
In my cutt. My buddy cat, this be.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
Nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
My mother, come, my brother, come, come, my fucking come
on knocking up and looking up.

Speaker 10 (03:12):
My luck enough?

Speaker 9 (03:13):
Yeah, yo, yo yo, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (03:28):
How y'all feeling? How y'all feeling today? Is what June first,
twenty twenty five is officially like the start of summer
or some sh it like that. Right, it's close, and
it like the start of summer. I thought I thought
this was the start of summer.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
I think it's June twenty first, June twenty first.

Speaker 9 (03:44):
Oh my bad, my bad, I'm early. I'm trying to
get it out the week.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
You know.

Speaker 9 (03:48):
It's warm, Yeah, it's warm. Start getting feel good.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
It's the first.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
Yeah, it feel good, you know it feel good?

Speaker 10 (03:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (03:56):
But I am your host, man tager Rebel. This is
beyond the beard and we are back. We are back.
We are back. How you feeling?

Speaker 6 (04:05):
I'm good man?

Speaker 9 (04:06):
What you got a we can be.

Speaker 8 (04:10):
My weekend? But up and down? Man, you know what
I'm saying. It's been it's been a bit of weeknd.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
But it's been good though.

Speaker 9 (04:19):
That's that's up. All right.

Speaker 7 (04:22):
Today is gonna be kind of uh kind of a
different type of different type of show.

Speaker 9 (04:26):
We're gonna go off script today.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
First.

Speaker 9 (04:29):
I want to send.

Speaker 7 (04:32):
First, I need to say, uh that I send my
condolencens to Jay Savage family. R ip to him. He
passed away unexpectedly. Uh what yesterday? I believe yesterday a
couple of days ago, day before yesterday. So yeah, man, Friday, Yeah,

(04:53):
so you know, rest peacefully to the brother Jay Savage. Man,
good dude, real good dude. Everybody I know you know
that a number of good things to say about him.
A joy to be around. We got his big brother,
come on, you can come here. We got got his
big brother, Dave, Dave here, so real quick before we

(05:17):
get started, we just wanted to give a quick moment
of silence to the brother Jay Savage.

Speaker 9 (05:30):
Alright, man, let's get into it, big Dave. How you feeling, man?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
You actually coming off my should man with all the
support and the love.

Speaker 9 (05:41):
Yeah, And I feel amazing right that.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I thought I was gonna be in a sum man.
But all this energy and all the support and all
the love and everybody. You know what I'm saying. It,
It's just crazy, man, It's just crazy. And I appreciate
all y'all. I'm'a spend my whole show appreciating everybody else.
You know what I'm saying, because I do.

Speaker 11 (06:01):
I'm just emotional right now.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Y'all have to forget me.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Man's man, ain't nothing wrong with that, like my son, right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
People don't get that part of it, you know what
I'm saying. They see when we on the show.

Speaker 11 (06:16):
A lot of behind the scenes that people don't see,
like probably a lot of other people, you know, late night.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Calls, the moments of doubt when.

Speaker 11 (06:26):
You gotta talk to somebody, you know what I'm saying,
the moments of you know what should I do?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know what I'm saying. I always felt great that
I was the person that he would call right, you
see what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (06:39):
And if y'all know Ja savage man, they said him
and my tager man, this was a this was a
match that was made.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (06:47):
Lyrically, if y'all don't know music and for the talent
in Saint Louis not saying that it's not a lot,
but the difference in styles and the difference in being
an individual.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
That it's good. She go the boys looking at us
due time. What you're saying like always been in the music.
You gotta be a good dude.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (07:16):
You're outa heah man, Hey, y'all shout out to my
brother more than man.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Roar were gonna get together.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
You gotta Ben's face what it's called.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Roar call or fifty one thirty six North Broadway.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Right next to what between kj's oh okay, okay, okay,
got you got you, got you Okay. We want to
pay some thing we gonna get, yes, sir, look, yes sir,
not a car.

Speaker 12 (07:41):
Bro's that's you what the make bath music?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's my prother man?

Speaker 11 (07:55):
Hey r too, Mama, alright, baby, hey hey brother, I
hit you brother, love you, bro, I love you too.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Hey.

Speaker 7 (08:04):
He talking about doing the dedication, Yes, sir, yes, sir,
all right, and you have to forgive him him him.

Speaker 9 (08:12):
That's cool. Everybody do that. Mytigo what I'm used to it.
It doesn't matter all the time. Yeah, I know, I
know what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
But listen, man, my tager we on this show.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
My tag has been supportive of me and the Savage Man.
Like when I first met dude.

Speaker 11 (08:31):
Man, you know, you can look somebody in the face,
like this guy right here, he popped in. I probably
would past probably three four weeks, me and him be interacted.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know when you meet a good dude. You know
when you see a good dude. You know, when you're
walking down the hallway and you one dude and you
by yourself, you are you know what I'm saying. You're
not already peak if you're gonna speak to this motherfucker.

Speaker 13 (08:52):
You finna act like you're on your phone or you're
not just gonna look at your right. But it's some
people look in the face and be like, I'm actually
want to meet this dude right right, I mean just
in life, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And this is one of the guys. That's my whole point.
My Tager Man, good dude.

Speaker 14 (09:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Him and Savage hit it off. Man. They was actually
cool man, and it was like my son.

Speaker 11 (09:17):
For y'all who don't know man that I've been knowing
Savage he was sixteen years old, gave his first job
at seventeen, and went rocking every since. You know what
I'm saying, rocked all the way out. He was thirty five,
you know what I'm saying. So my dad almost twenty
years with.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Dude, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (09:33):
My story though with the music starts at twenty twenty,
and that's you know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna
lie about it. Twenty twenty, we ran back into each
other and I told him, I said, mane, he's still
doing your thing. He was like, ah, I still right
like I said earlier.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh, let me get that I can smoke on my
ticket show.

Speaker 11 (09:53):
I was smoking on my joke.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
But he told me, you want to get back into
his music. I love music. He said that to the
wrong person.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
And as younger people say, I put the battery in
his back, he said all the time.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
He put the battery in my back. Man, you got
the back. And we've been climbing five years.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Right.

Speaker 11 (10:17):
My taking on how this grind go, especially where we're from,
it's not like we're in a big market. So it's
a super hard market here, giant Come on, man, what
twenty five thirty plus?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Right? You get what I'm saying. It's a hard market
coming out of the Midwest.

Speaker 11 (10:34):
Even with people blowing up out of the Midwest, it's
still a hard market because people want what they want, right,
you see what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
People want they want to hear these New York rappers
because that's what they you know, that was their heroes.
They want to hear him time at that time.

Speaker 11 (10:50):
But you know, everybody like a comeback, Like if Muhammad
ad Li would have still been living in he said
he was gonna box again everybody, even though we know
he was older than yeah Tyson when he did the
thing with J Pop. We was fifty fifty on that
I was anyway, you know what I'm saying. Well, anyway, man,
shout out to my guy Jay Sam. Shout out to
my antager Man. Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I'm too personal

(11:13):
with these guys.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
So I'm not a guy to be on nothing.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Okay, now now what I'm now what I'm what I'm
gonna do, right because this show beyond the beard, right,
my god? Once we we deal we deal with we
deal with manhood issues, financial, respility, responsibility, fatherhood, something that

(11:38):
I'm learning, accountability.

Speaker 9 (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
And and and basically.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
We come together because it's not a space for men
to go to with other men without feeling talked about
or or or down or fulfilling some type of way.
So this, this situation is a good is a good thing.
Not because he passed, of course, but we can come

(12:14):
together and help each other through it, especially the ones
that was close to him. You know, he would come
up here every Sunday, every Sunday that he can make
it an come on, you know what I'm saying. So
to not have him here is like crazy, you know
what I mean, It's kind of weird, you.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
So imagine having somebody you talk to every day for
hours on end, and then tomorrow you just can't talk
to him no more, you know what I'm saying. So
this is a way for us to Okay, we can
celebrate him, but now we gotta get Now we gotta
talk about how we get through it. So how do

(12:54):
we help Bro? Because anybody was close to him, he
was the closest to him. And this is what I need, right,
you know what I'm saying, This is what I need.

Speaker 11 (13:07):
Like, man, I know thousands of people, but who you
actually want to sit and rap? It is too totally
jaging attest to that. Me and this man here had
them two o'clock in the morning, calls you know and
talk to four no exaggeration. But he felt, like I
said earlier, he felt comfortable with calling me Bro. But sad, man,

(13:29):
I don't understand, and this is helping me. I'm actually
getting the gon I might sleep tonight because of this.
I didn't sleep last night, and people that know me,
I be on social media because of this?

Speaker 8 (13:38):
What I do?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I ain't posted all yesterday.

Speaker 11 (13:42):
I'm serious, I wouldn't on me not being on social
media twenty four hours is a thing.

Speaker 14 (13:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I didn't know what to say, you know what I'm saying.
I watched, I looked at what everybody else was saying.
You know what I'm saying. It was beautiful, and I
get sat back and.

Speaker 11 (14:00):
I got my I was cool through listening to everybody
else expressed state feelings on it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
But the people I had to call, See, that's a
lot of people. You don't understand. The people had to
call and tell this guy right here.

Speaker 11 (14:15):
I mean, I still got people that don't want to
believe me, right because they don't want to believe you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Just that type of thing.

Speaker 11 (14:22):
And I appreciate y'all, man, I'm serious, as I said
at this table. I appreciate y'all currently right at this time,
right now because my wife loved me. My wife listened
to me. But fellowship with other men is different. Yeah,
I can call it fellowship, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That's what it is. It's not a religious thing. We
sitting there talking. Yeah, this man don't know savage end,
he don't know me.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
But I can look in his face, man, he look
look at I mean genuinely fucking care bro, that's the difference.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
I don't know him, but before we went live, well,
as we went live, he kind of asked me, you
know how I've been whatever, And I kind of like,
this week been kind of tough for me, and it's
really been since Friday. Yeah, because even though I don't
know him, he was a Facebook friend of mine, Like
just about everybody I didn't know that I did about everybody.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
Who does music in the city.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I did not know that bro.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
So he was a friend of mine.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
And the album that he dropped back in December slipped
by me because I get so much music. Yeah, that
that wone kind of slipped by me. But so many
people that I know, people that I've recorded, people that
I've worked with closely, they know him. And it's like
I kind of been having this dilemma all weekend, like damn,

(15:41):
what am I doing with everything that I do? Because
I don't work a job. All I do is create content.
All I do is strength. All I do is do
music reviews. So this is a real business. When I
get money, I get money. When I don't, I don't
anybody that got a business, you know how that is?

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Yeah, And it's a mental thing, the ups and downs,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
So with that being said, like seeing Jay Savage pass,
so many people having this outpouring of love for him,
but I'm seeing it after the fact, and it happened
so much with artists.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
I've been live and I've got a call. I've been live.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
I remember on a Friday night, April nineteenth last year,
I got a call crowdn just got killed.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
He was on his way from the city.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
And so like when you say, you get these calls
people call you for console and you know what I'm saying,
You build these relationships with people and then you lose them.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
You can't talk to them no more. It's like, how
do you get past it?

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Right? But even for me as an outsider, like I
didn't really know him. I never had a conversation with
him like I do so many other artists. It's been
affecting me like a motherfucker this weekend and I ain't
even realize what it is that's really affected me until y'all,
like he passed, were doing the tribute to him, and
he did well.

Speaker 8 (17:04):
I don't know him like I do other people, but
now it's like this is realization.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Like this is why I've been in this mental dilemma
over the weekend, like should I just hang this ship up?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Dude?

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Should I keep going? You know what I'm saying, because
it's like, what are we doing it for? And y'all
can't show me love while I'm here. It's always my
thing when when any artist that I know, and it's
been quite a few from the city that I'm very
close with, hood Rich cry dying, it's others.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
You know, it's crazy with hood Ridge, like me and
hood Rich was gonna battle, right, And I found out.

Speaker 9 (17:51):
The day he died, the wether day he got killed
that he was my cousin.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
All the Millias, yeah, yeah, you were.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
People with the last name go Millia and Catchings and
those are my cousins. So when I when they posted
his real name and then my cousin posted it, I'm like,
what he's She was like, yeah, that's our cousin. I'm like,
because we talked ship to each other on Facebook all
the time about music and y yeah, just yeah, but

(18:22):
you know, we be like just joking with each other
and we talked I'll roast you, I do that.

Speaker 9 (18:27):
I come Wait it. Let's bet, let's bet. Yeah he was,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
And then when when he when he got killed, when
he got shot, that's when I found out, like that's
my actual cousin.

Speaker 9 (18:38):
My cousin posted it, and I'm like, damn, that's crazy.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
So it's like and with with with Hood Rich. I
had got two back to back in boxes two thirty
three o'clock in the morning from artists that I know
in the city. They don't kill Hood. It's just like
a lot of you know, like another one, Darren Seals.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
I know him.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, Me and him went back and forth on Facebook
a lot. But when he got killed. When that happened,
it was like, man.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
It put me. Man, it fucked me up because did
you see the work that people putting in?

Speaker 7 (19:13):
Right?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
And it was like, when is everybody gonna say my
fucking name? When is it gonna be me?

Speaker 9 (19:22):
Right?

Speaker 11 (19:25):
I'm gonna use the just when you said that's a
little segue, I said, I was gonna wait a week.
Everybody in my circle know I said I was gonna
wait a week to come for heads. But I'm on
my taking show, my taking, my nigga, you hear me?
And I know my taker come for your head today.

(19:46):
He wouldn't wait, so I'm gonna use his energy today.
And whoever watching this man, y'all, I'm sorry. This is
the side of me y'all probably don't see often. For
people that have been knowing me for my whole life,
they know me. Let me apologize to my wife first,

(20:08):
for I go into this.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Baby. I love you. I love you and you you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (20:15):
We've been together thirty three, were married thirty three thirty
four years.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know what I'm saying. So you you you know me.
But right now, blame my tailor. Damn hey, this whole
second is called.

Speaker 11 (20:29):
Blame tail Hey man, look all y'all out there talking
reckless man.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
About Jay.

Speaker 15 (20:39):
Y'all don't know who calling me, giving me names and
telling me who's saying what? And you know why they
calling me because.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I can get away with it.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
I'm gonna leave it at that because I see how
my nigga Jay I please get at me over there,
just leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
But I'm smart enough.

Speaker 11 (21:03):
I'm fifty four, I grew up in Saint Louis. I'm
still here, so you should know I know how to
get away with it.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
So please watch what y'all saying about my ally man.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
And that and that, and that's that's the not to
cut you off. No you good, you're good, but not
to cut you off. But that's that's the messed up part,
because like you said, he said like he got the
partner song. We say, don't make me go back to
the days when I was tripping on sand.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
What you do?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Right, They're gonna show you that Taga really fucks with savage.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
That's the line, right, Come on, So so you can't
take if you have if you have no proof of
evidence or seeing any type of behaviors exhibited of usage
of any type of drugs, or you can't sit come
on man like, and for people to sit here and say,

(21:57):
oh man, he might have been fucking with that, he
might have been fucking with that fin and this this.
Come on, man, come on, man like. That's that's not cool.
That's not cool. That ship, that ship is not cool
at all.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Ahead I use this metaphor, you niggas is like water.

Speaker 11 (22:19):
Easiest way of non resistance. Y'all know y'all wouldn't have
been saying this if y'all was in his face that's
the take.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm gonna get my.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
Now. Like I was saying, like.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
We we've seen we we've seen people on you know,
doped up, drugged out, finn need out and you know
that that wasn't him. I mean like even if he
did used to take zans or pop sayings or whatever,
he said that, right, he said that, But you don't know,
you don't know that man's history, medical history, what could

(22:55):
have been like, but just to be thrown on social media,
he was, he was doing it.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
He was doing that.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
He did this, He did Dan and the weed you know,
going everywhere?

Speaker 9 (23:06):
Like where was y'all? Y'all was there when he was
doing it? And if y'all was, why didn't y'all stop me?

Speaker 7 (23:11):
If you call your people, if that's your man, if
you know he going, if you know he doing all
this extra extra, et cetera, et cetera, then why ain't
you Why don't you intervene? If you got that much
love for him and you that concerning you that you
know what I mean, why ain't you intervened that beyond
the bard man, you know what I'm saying, And he wasn't.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
Again, I didn't hang out with him every day we
we talked over.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
He'll text me every now and again, or you know
what I'm saying, We'll see each other up here every Sunday. Right,
But even then, bro, it was you know, he smoked weed,
So what we all smoke weed right now, he'll have
a drink or to it whatever we all. You know
I don't drink, but everybody do that, you know what
I mean? But to say, this man was on fin
and he was popping pills and he was doing this

(23:52):
and that's why he died, Like, come on, you can't,
you can't.

Speaker 9 (23:55):
Can't. You can't do that to a man's name like that.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
It's one person and on my friends list who vouches
for this guy?

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Love this guy? That lets me know that wasn't the path.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
That he was anybody that know him the path. But
it's it's the it's the people.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
It's it's the other people that the envy is, the
jealous that the people who want to be in his
position or couldn't do what he did, or something didn't
go right in their life with him.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So now is this for you?

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Take it as a blessed that they reveal it who
they are, so you don't work with in the future,
he was hearing.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
Straight off.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
I told the dude, they I want to do this thing.
I want you to be a cameraman. I want you
to help me with it. Two weeks lady went off
on Facebook on me, which is the worst thing to do, because,
like now you got.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
The whole city on your ass, people calling me, what
is what's going on?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Who is this dude?

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Just that, don't worry about it. Just leave him alone.
He ain't nobody. But the fact is is that you know,
people don't never know who knows who, who's watching in
this city.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
They don't know who's calling.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
I said on Facebook, good way to get every hood
in the city on your asses?

Speaker 8 (25:07):
How is that? How you do that? This oli versus
and beyond that?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
And I'm gonna hate you. And I've been saying this.
I'm a little I'm a little older than probably everybody
at this table. We've had this saying since the I
lived through that.

Speaker 11 (25:24):
I was a freshman in high school at eighty six
crack every hit, Yeah, heavy, I was a freshman. You
know what I'm saying. What we had is saying no
doll back then. I can get to anybody in fifteen
minutes I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Care where are you at.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
You could be at six Flags. You could be at
six Flags. I could be at Forrest Part fifteen minutes there.
You could be on Gasconade, South City fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I can be there. You could be on the twentieth
Downtown no matter. I can be there. You could be
in Spanish.

Speaker 11 (26:11):
Lake, you could be in you know what I'm saying. Look,
I can get there in fifteen minutes. It's just a
lot of older guys are alive because there was no
social media.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I don't mean to flip the page, but that's the truth.
I'm set. So a lot of shit is coming out
of me right because I'm upset. I'm angry because it's
a lot of stuff I want to say.

Speaker 11 (26:32):
To people, but I don't know exactly who to say
it too yet because it's a group, and I want
to wait all till all of them to form.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't want to waste my time, you know, having
to repeat myself.

Speaker 11 (26:44):
But they're for me, and I love it because I'm
seeing it all this beautiful thing about social media.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
That's why I just go live and say that way
y'all could just run the video back, run it back
and say, take care.

Speaker 8 (26:54):
I put it on YouTube for y'all.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Run them jews up, let me get them change out
of it.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
That's what I'm on.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Right But savage dog, no listen, and I said this
out on the porch man. We had overtime over here.
You know what I'm saying. I said it on the porch.
I don't care how they found my nigga. Do you
hear that sentence at the end of it? It's my nigga.
M I don't care if he was robbing people.

Speaker 11 (27:20):
What you want, I'm just saying. I'm just using this
as context. So everybody out there wanted to take it.
How to fuck y'all want to take and take it,
but you get what I'm saying. I'm using this as context.
I don't care if my nigga was robbing people. Do
you hear I say that said. I don't care who
my nigga. I don't gay robbing people. I don't care
you slapping people. I don't care if he was doing drugs.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I don't care if y'all found him with a needle
in his on he's passed away.

Speaker 11 (27:44):
If he ain't wronged you, bro, why would you even
you know what I'm saying, why why even have anything
if he has not wronged you?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (27:53):
I don't care how they find If the niggain't never
wronged me, why do I got some nigga?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Why we don't don't even know how we're wrong in people?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
If we're wrong in people, that's their opinion, right, that's
the thing that's you.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
Know, we don't know, well, you know what you know,
you know what I've learned, and and and she does,
she tells me this, right, like we hold people accountable
for things that they're not aware of.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Yeah, So you're saying we're wrong in people we don't
even know. But people don't even know. The people can't
people can't even You don't know you're doing wrong because
the person that you may have wronged, they can't come
to you. They're they're they're afraid to come to you
for whatever reason. I don't want to say afraid.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
But well, they ain't been taught that they've been taught.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
Right.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
The average person is an assertive They ain't gonna even
assert themselves for themselves. A lot of people won't men,
even you know what I'm saying, and then let's let's
get let's talk.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
This is also a thing.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Come on, man, men having conversations. Why I gotta find
out because I said something on the Facebook post you
don't like that, You got an issue with me?

Speaker 8 (29:15):
You could have called me.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Everybody you friends with me on Facebook, you can ring
that messenger all day. You can call it like if
you really got an issue. You might not have my number,
but you can. Also you can go on a I
need to talk to you, bro, here's my number, call me?

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Or can I call you?

Speaker 6 (29:33):
What's your number? And I'm gonna give you the number
because I'm a man. But a lot of men wasn't
raised in a certain type of way, like a lot
of things with me, you know, gangster shit. Yeah, Like
like I said in the first episode, the man time
with his family could never be a man. That's the

(29:55):
type shit I'm on. So that goes with conversation, comes
along with that before somebody gets dealt with in the
gangst the world conversations that had they don't just get killed.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
They didn't. It's just more than social media.

Speaker 10 (30:15):
Let me this morning ahead.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
The only reason I'm let me go ahead on you
on the social media. Think with that.

Speaker 11 (30:20):
See from our day. Now, this is just based off me.
See for my day, if I had a problem with you,
see back in it was places where you.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Go kick it.

Speaker 11 (30:30):
We didn't have social media. I didn't you know, I say,
just think about no social media. So me and you
get in to it on a Friday, Me and you
at the bar, get with your boy. You know, I
spin around and talk to a chick and I turned
back around you in front of me. I'm like, damn,
bro was Let's just use that as an example.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
Your boy turned around like, oh fuck nigga, whatever you know,
and then I go tell my boy, hey man, he
needs two more fuckers up at the boy was tripping.
He see y'all we see each other.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
We mean, mother whatever. But see, I got a whole
we before I see you, I heard from you or
heard anything.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
About you, because I ain't gonna see you again until
we go back to that spot.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Because you live where you live. What you get.

Speaker 11 (31:11):
What I'm saying, I had time to life to life.
So by the time I see you again. Not saying
that it won't happen.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
But the odds of it being where it would be today.
It's totally different.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
But this is the day of pull up, where something
happen today. Something happened today, they pull up something happened today.
They're gonna automatically go live, get the talking.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And can find out who you are. No, bro, look
who is this dude to post your picture? It's one
of my people.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
Say, I ain't.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
I ain't even gotta do that.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
All I gotta do is say the picture to my phone,
put it into Google Search.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
And that's what I'm saying. They didn't have that.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
They didn't have that.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
But it's different.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
I I hear what you're saying, but I disagree with
that because you ten years older than me.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Right, You come from eighties crack game. I come from
nineties crack game.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
It's it was big like you. We could talk about
social media all we want.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
You, we can talk about social media all we want.
But niggas was getting killed then like they are now.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
It's just social media didn't show you. Social media didn't
show you, wasn't in your face. The only thing you
had was the news, and a lot of niggas in
the hood don't watch the news. They grandmama watched the
news their grandpa, they grandpa.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
But also also the killing that was going on. Killing
is wrong regardless period start there. But the killing that
was going on, it was it was necessary, it was but.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
It was.

Speaker 9 (32:49):
Necessary. It was it was, it was business. It was
called for killings.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Man.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
It was rules that was violated and those But it
got to now it got you where it wasn't. Now
you get the jay's before somebody else, you get in line.
You come out there and got no more dude gonna
come out.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
And that was happening in the nineties.

Speaker 9 (33:08):
True, what the I'm just saying. I'm saying, Okay, that
was a bad Okay, that was a bad analogy that
was that was bad.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Happened.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
I'm just saying, the dumbest ship now we're getting killed.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Okay, he Listen, that started happening in the nineties.

Speaker 11 (33:24):
I just said.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
I just said him the bad example had the o
G No, I'm saying overall, yeah, you're right, overall just
since less killing.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
Listen, that started happening in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
You can look it up on Time magazine.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
You had a cover started getting killed with the starting
the truth remember the truth?

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, preface the conversation.

Speaker 16 (33:52):
Well, it was something that said, and man, people being
people being mindful when they post when people are passed away, right,
and then that's just a triculation of what people say
after that. Now myself, I don't they could be somebody
I don't. I don't really post people.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
When they pass away.

Speaker 16 (34:15):
And this is the reason why, because you could be
one one step away from going over the edge, right,
And all the take is for one person to say
the wrong things and then guess what.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
He's coming out. Hey, look he riding with me.

Speaker 12 (34:42):
And then I'm let you I'm gonna let you know this, right,
anybody anybody that ride box of night Trill powder free
latex gloves and keep a paaring their pocket, stay the
funk away from them, man, leave them alone.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Mane.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
This is the thing though.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
People don't realize, Like people don't realize, you know, they
don't realize who does that.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
They look at this guy and say, he ain't, he
ain't said nothing the whole thing. What are you gonna
he ain't? Then he's pulling our gloves.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
See, that's that's that again, That's that's that's the that's
that the beauty of it all because.

Speaker 9 (35:25):
Like I'm a fun guy, I like to have fun,
I don't you know, yeah, pushy think all that, all
that then you know, yeah, but we.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Know how to do this. We know how to do this.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
It's like for real, like you said, you don't know
where the mind goes, Like you don't know how easily
it could be to trigger somebody's mental you know what
I'm saying. And I think that's the thing that now
I will say this is the difference with social media,
because I don't like to necessarily blame social media. I
will say this the quickness of information spreading with social media,

(36:07):
Like people can instigate quickly on social media.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
Now, back in the day, you couldn't do that necessarily.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
He was talking about, well you live over here and
I live over there, and I'm only gonna see you
when we meet in the middle.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
But in the nineties it got to the point where
we was beefing block to block.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Okay, Well.

Speaker 8 (36:26):
Yeah, see so like you know, I was a teenager.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I seen the Titanic about to hit the Iceberg. I
got off that.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
Yeah, it jumped, it got crazy, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
Like, but what I do, what I do want to
tell you though, bro, you know, and like I was
telling my wife earlier, man, like I got a lot
of respect for you. There's not many people I hang
with or I'm willing to hang with.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
At all at all appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
So I don't I don't know, I don't have None
of us really have all the answers for everything. Well,
some of us don't have the answers for nothing.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
I think that's but one thing.

Speaker 9 (37:15):
That one thing that I know that we all.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Sitting there having common is trauma, pain, ups and downs.
We've all been through that. So again, even though you
know me and Jay, that was my that's who we
called each other, bro, Like, you know what I'm saying,

(37:39):
So whatever I can do, and I know you said
you told White and I'm in trouble. So if that
means I gotta pick up the slack a little bit,
then hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna Help'm gonna help pick
up the slack.

Speaker 11 (37:51):
Listen, that was my That was like my god son, Yo,
this mag and the test of that, this man and
the test of that.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I mean my wife calling her third son. You know
what I'm saying, I got two sons.

Speaker 11 (38:05):
You know what I'm saying that that him and my
youngest son was just at the Ozars together they weekend, right,
you know.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
What I'm saying, say like because he didn't even know
he was gonna be out there out there.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Real, So it's not
like that. I mean as far as.

Speaker 11 (38:22):
Well, I ain't al much. Let me spind back my
tager well him and saying I meant like like I said,
like earlier, what I said, you can see if you
like somebody regards when you first walked up on you,
like even if you introduced me to him, if we
didn't like each other either, I'm gonna tell my guy,

(38:43):
I don't like that dude.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
He gonna say, take a dude.

Speaker 11 (38:45):
You know, I don't really fuck with him right right,
And it's not a bad thing that just to be like, well,
I don't want to be around dude.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's not like saying like I don't I just met him.
But it's just something.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Anybody can attest when they meet savage brother.

Speaker 11 (39:02):
If you would have missed that, bro, it was, I'm
telling you you would have been like, bro, yeah, I
would have probably went out who told that story? Somebody
said his cousin came in town just men on the
same day. Next you know, he talked to him later
on that night they out at the club together.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I mean, he was that type of dude.

Speaker 11 (39:19):
But I love the artistry and I love the the
artist part brought us all together. Me being an artist
in my mind made me want to do a podcast.
See what I mean, I look at all my I
believe in God. Whoever watching your podcast, I know a lot.

(39:40):
I mean, listen, I'm saying I believe that everybody believes
in something higher. We're not just gonna narrow it down
to one thing. Everybody believes something. I believe in something.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
Higher, all the same things. It's called different and different languages.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
That's how I lived my life. And bro, when something
good happened, I don't ignore it no more. I probably I.

Speaker 11 (40:02):
Could probably be in a whole different praise in my
place in my life if I would have been more
observant of what I really needed to be looking at. Right,
If you get what I'm saying. I was out here
selling dog chasing the street because.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
That's what I saw was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
No, that's what I You know what I mean. When
I walked out my house. I lived on Saint Ferdinanda
and Marcus. When I walked out my house. We live
in a bad neighborhood. But you see fresh cause you
see what I'm saying. So what do you want to think?

Speaker 11 (40:32):
You know, fresh clothes, fresh call, and he yo, Patna,
somebody you look up to. It's not like you look
up to him because of that. You looked up to
him prior to that. So then when they stepped into
that rod, you're like, damn, well, maybe this is for
me too.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
So you know, I don't brag on it.

Speaker 11 (40:48):
Man, my wife, I said, Man, all that shit is dumb,
But when you meet I learned that though I'm an
only child too, I got a lot of sisters and brothers,
but biologically my mom only had one kid. So I
think consider myself a good judge of character because the
people I call my brother sisters, they've been my brother's
sister for thirty plus years.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
So obviously I picked some good ones. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (41:11):
But my whole point is that when you know, when
you meet somebody man and you know somebody and you
you really get to know him, and they call you
and they tell you their personal most intimate secrets and
they feel comfortable telling you that you feel a certain
way about them.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (41:29):
Like Taking said, if y'all rewind this video, he said,
it's only a couple people that I really would consider
fucking with or rocking with, and for me to consider
him as one of them, that means something to somebody
else that don't mean shit.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Built I know my Texer, so that means a lot.

Speaker 11 (41:46):
To me because I know his I know his standards,
I know his where he's at with us, So that
mean a lot to me. If somebody act like Jay
his standards for him to consider me somebody he can call,
and I look at you niggas like I can call y'all.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
You see what I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Savage is one of them guys.

Speaker 11 (42:05):
But the crazy what I never needed to call him,
not saying never, but when I was getting ready to
call him, he was calling me. And I'm an old,
married man. My problems are problems I've been dealing with forever.
So your new problems supersede if you, my guy, supersede anything.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
That I have currently.

Speaker 11 (42:27):
That's like me saying, man, all I got to eat
is ramen noodles and you call me and tell me
your mama died.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
You see what I'm saying. If I'm eating, you know
what I mean. Call your man, I'm broke. I eat
rama nudas for a week, Me eating Ramen nudas and
your mama dad. Look at the comparison. You see what
I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (42:45):
And you know what I'm saying for people to drop
them them levels on me and all they said. Man,
I hold secrets and not in a bad way. I
love people can call me and feel comfortable they see
me because.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
You can explode. And I know you probably going through
that line. I know you probably got ship very that
that people probably sitting back.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
Like, don't sit up and call me no messy person,
because if I was messy, god, but I'm not that.
So when a person says that, I will go the
fuck off. I go live about this ship, bro, I
go live say what I gotta say for an hour
to three might be three serious, and I let them

(43:25):
know where I'm at with it, and my people who
see it, they get behind me and it is what
it is. And that's that and now you are whatever.
People think that they can't black ball theyself, but this
is how it is easy.

Speaker 11 (43:37):
It's easy, depend on your circle, and it depends on
where you're on the food chain too.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
You got to remember that.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
Sometimes way of the food, sometimes people don't realize where
they at the food change because of this social media.
People don't understand they position the power. Because of this
social media, you don't know who's fachi you own social media.

Speaker 11 (44:02):
I just in this totally not random, but my pard,
I was just telling them and this ain't no shot.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
And Jay, I'm not trying to turn you. This is
not a switch for you. Social media make people believe.
So before social media, you was a four.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
Tin Nah, but the four could be a ten. And
I just wanted to I want to make the four
could absolutely be a can be.

Speaker 9 (44:38):
They pay for all these extra apps and all this
extra ship. Yeah, listen, My thing is that if you.

Speaker 11 (44:46):
Got but see what I'm saying, These people in Wyoming
and Wisconsin and people that you will never actually And
that's why I said about artists too.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
You can have a bunch of fans, but you gotta
know your dynamic.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
There's a lot of artists that can't deal with the fan.
That's why they don't want to. They are amazing artists,
but they can't deal with the fan. That's why they're
never gonna go up, because they can't deal with the fame,
not even at the local level.

Speaker 11 (45:12):
Hey we here, man, I'm saying, take him a CAVI,
Irricanty Records. It's with Jay Savage, his record deal, his
record label, his CEO of the company.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Right here, man is.

Speaker 11 (45:23):
And like I said in my show, I think the
biggest mistake in the world I think they made, but
the CEO and the artists becoming really really good friends.

Speaker 14 (45:33):
It was.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
It was a gift in the curse. He know, but
he knows. I don't mean no Matlas. He's here, you
know what I mean. Go ahead, cal go ahead, man,
Just man, I know what you're saying that.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
You know, that was my brother.

Speaker 10 (45:47):
We talked all the time, every other day, just about
just about a.

Speaker 14 (45:54):
Bunch of different stuff, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
I know what you're saying. You know that was a
dog man, and he's gonna be missed for sure. We're
gonna do what we're gonna do to keep him going.

Speaker 11 (46:07):
And my whole point of going to him was when
he was talking about the fame, he can he was ready,
he can deal.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
With He didn't care.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Okay, So my question is is where do where do
you go from here? How do you process everything from here?
Because it is I know it's going to be a process.

Speaker 10 (46:31):
It's definitely gonna be a process.

Speaker 14 (46:33):
And I think really my thought when Dave called me
was like we need to kind of stick together, you
know what I mean, Like, you know, build our tribe up,
build our village up, so we can process and work
together and get through it because I ain't gonna be
able to do it, you know, by myself, you know,

(46:53):
so you know, just leaning on these guys and and
and just staying connected as much as I can to
the people who.

Speaker 10 (47:03):
You know, was involved in what we do. You know,
that's right now, That's that's the plan.

Speaker 14 (47:11):
You know, this is you know, you don't know what
you're gonna do until you in it, you know what
I'm saying, Like this first time, uh, losing an artist,
you know what I mean? Like I lost I lost
my brother back in ninety six, and that took a
long time to get Like I was messed up for
years after that. My big brother, my only brother.

Speaker 10 (47:32):
It was just me and him. And so when he
passed away, when he was murdered. You know. That took
me down a crazy path for a little bit. Yeah, understood.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
What I can say, well, I ain't even say what
I can't say. What I will say is that it's
tragic that he's gone. We all feeling that in one
form or out as saw more than others. But at
least he didn't go out. Nobody took him.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
Yeah, nobody took him from you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (48:12):
You know, And.

Speaker 17 (48:14):
It's funny you say that because that's kind of like
the the common like thing you heard, you know what
I mean, Like because nobody would have believed that somebody,
somebody would have killed it like that, Like if you
knew Savage like he he didn't.

Speaker 14 (48:32):
He didn't bring that type of energy to make somebody
want to take his life like that. When when when
people heard the news like that was that wasn't even
really it's like that that couldn't have been it, you.

Speaker 8 (48:45):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Yeah, man, it's it's just rough man, It's just it's
just it is.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
But dealing with that, and especially when you feel like
his family, which is much just keep it like that. Yeah, yeah,
you know, for real, it's like losing a cousin. You
know what I'm saying. To some, it's like losing a brother,
losing a son or something. It's like uncle or something.
It's it's like people we haven't even talked to.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
See.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, and then y'all have to remember we're basing this
on from where we knew Savage from. Mm hm. You know,
Savage had a whole nother life like my tech has.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
You have a whole other life.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
When you come on this show, you give us what
you want to give us. When Savage was in public, he.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Gave you what you wanted to get.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
You know what was asking why I don't sit up, bring,
I don't go live? Me and my wife just had
an argument. You know what, it's not. It's not that
you know what I'm saying. He was about the brand.

Speaker 7 (49:45):
But we can only we can only speak as his
extended family exactly, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (49:50):
So how we with family and what again?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (49:53):
Again, condolences and all love and respect to his to
his immediate family, you know, as his extended family, you know,
and this thing that we do, you know, it was
all love, you know, all love and respect, and we
just just always keep it that way.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (50:12):
Can't nobody really tarnish that man name for real?

Speaker 7 (50:15):
Nah, you know what I mean, not on no dope
thing ship or no other weird ship at all.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
Man, And that ship just ain't cool.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
I don't respect that or appreciate that at all, that part,
you know what I mean? Because if he was here,
he probably like fire out your actually even talking to
him like that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Even wouldn't even talk.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
To him like that?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
My man, my man, right there? You said it. You
said I made a post. I just I don't know.

Speaker 11 (50:40):
I didn't make a lot of posts. Like I said,
I'm not gonna post at post pigure. I posted one
post of him when he was a Halloween party because
I want you all to.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
See the good side. I want you to see the laughter.

Speaker 11 (50:49):
You know, you said he played ro me wrong and
he did it to the tea had a black you
know what I mean. That's who he was for real, right,
But it's a lot of our people he was talking reckless.
I just said, man, look y'all, wouldn't have said that
to him. I have people calling me like, bro, you
don't believe saying this?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
This this, this, this and he hated them, right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (51:11):
And the only thing with me is that I'm all
crying out right now, you know what I'm saying. Man,
when people call me and tell.

Speaker 7 (51:18):
Me sympathy, even angry, but even knowing but even knowing
that and knowing that it's the people that saying it
that you know, he didn't even fuck with real anyway,
all right, yeah whatever, because he.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Was winning over because he ain't even with you, win
over them. That's why they didn't like him.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
That's right, winning over And it wasn't even chick and
Mouckers don't even realize, like we just live in our
life like we're just doing what we're trying to do
to elevate, like exactly, we're not even looking at it
like we're running over the next person.

Speaker 8 (51:48):
We're just doing what we're doing exactly. Crazy.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
I was just honored to have been a part of
you know that journey, man, I.

Speaker 14 (52:00):
U you know, just I remember like this this was
his dream, you know what I mean, Like I want
to perform, I want to be on stage.

Speaker 10 (52:10):
I want to you know, do my own shows and
perform and and and just to help bring that that
part of his dream to fruition was.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
A that was beautiful.

Speaker 11 (52:24):
And as an artist, he'll tell you to like, some
artists like to perform for some artists like to go
in the studio and write and you know and listen
to you know, some people don't like in the stage.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
He loved the crowd. He told me.

Speaker 11 (52:39):
He was like, Man, I know I don't post on
social media and all this stuff, but I love being
on stage, you know, just the energy the crowd.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Because he feels like social media was.

Speaker 11 (52:48):
Kind of just like.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Lot of ways but.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Like a lot of a lot of people just.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
It's just it's fake.

Speaker 10 (52:58):
But people have to use social media for what it's
built for. It is a tool. He hated it, and
it's not reality. It's a tool, and you have to consistently.

Speaker 14 (53:10):
You know, if you're gonna build a house, you gotta
have the right tools, and if you want to build
a career, you gotta have the right tools.

Speaker 10 (53:15):
And social media is one of those tools and you
gotta know how to use it.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
Facts, especially in today's market, you have.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
To use it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
He didn't he didn't like people in his personal life.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
Yeah, no, I know, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 11 (53:31):
What I'm saying right, But he felt like he felt
like anything he did as far as like just going live,
it was his personal.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Life unless he was talking about I got a show
coming up.

Speaker 8 (53:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
When he got a show coming up, he all over
social media. And I used to tell him.

Speaker 11 (53:46):
I used to get on him too, So you know,
I used to get on He's like, you gotta I said, man,
just create some content on your.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
In the car on the way to work, just say hey,
good morning, I just woke up. I'm on my way
up driving.

Speaker 10 (53:58):
Boy. He was picky, though, what what come on?

Speaker 14 (54:00):
Man?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
But every time I try to create some content for him,
boll We be on the phone arguing for hours.

Speaker 10 (54:06):
I don't like that.

Speaker 9 (54:07):
You change it?

Speaker 10 (54:08):
No, do this, put this on there, do that.

Speaker 14 (54:10):
I was like, oh man, I'm just trying to I'm
just trying to put some content out man, because you
won't do it.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
But see, that's why I was trying to get him around,
you know, other artists. I want him to hang with
other artists.

Speaker 11 (54:26):
But just as his life was getting so he had
I ain't gonna say it took an l he was
going through some ship that he had came out of it.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
He's on his up swing, he called me great moves.

Speaker 11 (54:38):
He called me on the bad moved too. But when
he get on, you know, you pick up the phone
for somebody like he'll tell you to. When he called
me first, I say, what's wrong, Jake?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
But no, you know what I'm saying. And that was
with my other j too. What Jay said, what's up?

Speaker 9 (54:53):
Jah?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Dang, it's great.

Speaker 11 (54:57):
I'm ready if he call you me, talk to you,
ready to shoot videos. And that's why he did the sip.
He was like, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I've been trying to get him on the cipher before
the past. It had been three weeks for the cipher
had been already going on. He was inside, I just say,
you know what I mean? He was like, I ain't
just there. I ain't there. You know what I'm saying. Mentally,
I'm just not there right now. I'm going through some persons.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Shit.

Speaker 11 (55:17):
He the type of person that once he get in
that moved, he'll go write six seven eight songs.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
But you gotta be in that mode, right And he'd
just be like.

Speaker 14 (55:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (55:27):
But he was in that mode and he calmed, he said,
I'm ready sent them to beat. Did the cipher told
him my Tager was gonna be on there and friendly competition.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
He was like, oh, ship, take her up.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
Ship, I'm there.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
He was like, Ship, I gotta make.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Sure the taker got them bars. I got the bar.
That's what it is. You know what I'm saying. He
know that, but it was respectful.

Speaker 11 (55:49):
He was like, man, oh shit, take on that I got.
It was like, yeah, I came in like this, ship
out take her like they should.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Man. And this is actually the cipher that was that
went the way it was supposed to go. If y'all
look at the other ciphers prior to.

Speaker 11 (56:04):
Their individuals, not just one because we couldn't get people
to you know it just schedules was supposed to for
this to go smooth and to come in knock it out.
And like I said, I've been saying this all day,
I'm gonna say it again. I had wanted him and him.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
On the track so bad together, and I feel fucked.

Speaker 11 (56:24):
Up that this is the track, not a bad way,
but it's just this showed that I wanted people to
see that chemistry so it could become a project.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
You know what I'm talking. I want people to see
the chemistry and come from Oh my god, and that
would have been stupid. You listen to that cipher him
and him crazy, that would have been a crazy project.
EP six songs done. So you know what I'm saying.
I know he got him in him, a new Savage
had him in him. That would have been a quick
flip all the way around the board, you know. But

(56:55):
the beautiful thing is that I get to come on
money beyond the beard.

Speaker 11 (56:59):
Hey man, shout out to my take of rebel man
behind the barrier, shout out, and he still let us
rap about this.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Man, I appreciate you taking for this. Make no doubt
we heard over here.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
Yeah, he heard over here.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
A big loss for the community.

Speaker 11 (57:13):
I mean just for the hip hop community, because you know,
everybody got to understand is that we just need enough
to get the eyes open.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
But what happens is we open that up and before
anybody a chance to look to shut back down.

Speaker 11 (57:33):
Because things that happened, like we had the sexy red
you know, error eyes was on us.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
But outside of that, nobody. To me, this is Day's
personal opinion. To me, it's like nobody took advantage of
that wave as far as reaching out to her people
and unless they was just blocking the door. You may
know more about this.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Listen, money is the key, telling you money is the key,
But money is the key.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
If I don't like you, I don't care how much
money you got.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
If you don't like me, I don't like the money
with me.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
You know what I'm saying. I don't like you. But
if I got what you want and I.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Don't like you.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
To see the problem with the industry in Saint Louis's
people don't want to spend money.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
They don't think that they have to spend money. They
don't think that money. They don't think that this ship
is a business.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
They think that I'm supposed to talk about their music
and make content for fucking free.

Speaker 8 (58:39):
They don't want to spend money. Okay, that's the problem.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
There's no industry here because people don't want to spend money.
So when these an rs or whoever come to this,
first of all, there are no n rs anymore.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
Right So, when I'm your n R, when you the
n R, when.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
The guy who's going to the show and talking about
the talent is the n R, because that's the only
people that's doing it in the city is me you
bringing them and talking about them. I see it, you
know what I'm saying. But other than that, who they're
not exposing the music because the artists don't wan to
spend money. I don't want to spend money. They want

(59:20):
the production for free, they want the studio time for free.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
I'm a star. Pay me, pay me, pay me and me,
and and they got the talent.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
The talent is here.

Speaker 14 (59:34):
Even when you build a connection with someone then they
want you to that's even more of a reason why
they think you should do it.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
It ain't no reason why nobody don't got no sex
you red feature. They ain't nobody from this city got
no sexy rare feature. And the reason why they don't
is because they don't spend money.

Speaker 11 (59:52):
Yeah, well, how do you take an artist from just
wanting to be heard in the car with his friends
to actually.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Step in it up to that next level?

Speaker 6 (59:59):
If you just want to be heard part with his friends.
Let me tell you something. If a dude sent me
some music and I said, this is incredible, what are
we doing with it? Where's the business at? And he said, oh,
I just do this for free. And I said, let
me tell you something. Don't send me no fucking more
music because you're doing it just because I don't care

(01:00:19):
about that.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
I know that we know the people.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
I can help you get the business taken care of,
but you don't want to take care of the business.
I don't want to hear them. I'm sorry that you're
a hobbyist. This is a business.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Amazing, I've heard. I'm just.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
We talk and there's nothing wrong with being a hobbyist.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
But I'm gonna tell you, even with this social media,
you're not goingna blow up as no hobbyist. These kids
posting a song a day and it's trash, but they're
blowing up because they posting the song of day yep,
and it's a minute and thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah trash.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
No, not Russ. He actually don't. That dude's dope.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
But but but yeah he.

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
Yeah, but he's got actually very quality music.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
There's another kid that's put out like a song a
day for three hundred and sixty five days.

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
We got great, we got great. Get up out of
here and let this other show come in. But before
we get up before before now, y'all good. Before we
get up out of here, though, we're gonna play player
uh jaysav This is the sipher that he did before
we got up out of here.

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
Should be great.

Speaker 10 (01:01:36):
You want to be famous, but you want to make
some money.

Speaker 9 (01:05:01):
Time Alrpeter J.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
Sav appreciate you guys for sticking through, coming out and
l you know, hanging out with me for the rest
of the show.

Speaker 10 (01:05:08):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
Until next time. Man, this is beyond the beard. We
will see you guys next week.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
No