Mr. Poetry 7

Special Guest Mr. Poetry 7

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Your dreams. Be a lawyer or notice. You just gotta believe.
Don't be complacent on making things fair. Push your standards
to the heights. You deserve all the care. Don't be okay?
What is being okay?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
You're a star.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
You should shine every day.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hey, black queens, just live up your dream You just
know that you're amazing.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
You deserve everything.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Black queens and co matter your color, know that God
makes you with them. It's being unique like no weather.
My queens need to know y'all the best. Just have confidence, beautiful,
don't settle for less. My queen's life is truly your test.
But you got it. Cut you strong, so you don't
have to stress.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, you're beautiful.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome everybody.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
How y'all doing? I go by the queen and this guy?
Who are you to my right? Alright, twisted poet? I
wanna welcome you guys to the July edition of The
High coup Hour. I would like to uh introduce you
all to our July guest. He goes by mister Derek
Owens a k A. Mster poetic seven.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
What's going on y'all?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
What do you think about that? Another one? How you
doing mister poetic seven poetry seven, So let's get into it.
Tell me about the name poetry seven.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Ah, So seven is the story of Jacob Angel. I'm
not gonna let you go into change my situation.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Oh and so you.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Get your he'll put out of place.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
And how is something near able to like handle something
that's divine to the point.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
The angel gotta say let go on?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
So Garrick and seven are the you know, I'm not
I'm not finnah staying the situation.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I was fighting for change.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
I like the So that's how seven came by fighting
for change.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Okay, you always hear.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Uh what he was showing us on the screen.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I have no idea, but I I I love it.
When he said let me go, he said, I will
not let you go to you bless me. So it
it lets me know how determined he was in regards
to uh, the the the metamorphos if y if that,
if that makes sense? That change? So tell me about
your upbringing. Ye, I mean what you wanna show. I

(02:51):
don't want you to know if you want to give
me tea. I like t though, but I'm just saying okay.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
So Eric Anthony.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Always dow.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
So pretty much.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Four sisters, different step dads, so I was more so the.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Geek, the nerd, the the guy that got picked off.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Growing up.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
I was never the cool kid. My sisters always seemed
to be the favorite. I was the black sheep, the
you and your feelings too much, you cry too much.
One of my stepfathers used to always think I was
a whimp and I was weak because I was never
the type that was like aggressive.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I didn't really.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Have the example of what a man does and how
a man handles things growing up because I just used
to see my stepfather just.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Like aggressive, angry. You know, I got picked on the.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Like because I used to always express how I felt.
I was told that, you know, I was gay because
I didn't have this.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Exterior, you know.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I was like, no, I just think I'm in tune
to how I feel.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
So just growing.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Up no dad, me and my stepdad physically got into fights.
Just seeing how he treated my mom just made me
realize I never wanted to be dead. So I was
just always writing journals how I felt. So that's the
whole like beginning of where poetry came from, was writing
what I felt and getting your butt hinted to you

(04:44):
because your mom found out in a journal how you
feel said he hate me. Here, I'm gonna make that
nigga hate me even more.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, I was like, Mom, this.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Is my journal, this is the way I like, I
expressed it so that I wouldn't get in trouble because
I knew the more I did it verbally, I got
in My lip was bleeding and I couldn't enjoy that
double cheeseburger with bacon. So it was like, okay, fetlok.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
You know you brought up actually a lot within the
shortness you brought it up, So hopefully I can break
it down in a few pillers. The number one thing
I want to ask is is there a difference between
a man being sensitive and expressing how he feel versus
that aggressive.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Mal Like, what is your take on it?

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Because, like you said, you're just expressing yourself, but someone
is telling you you have this particular orientation.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
So I think.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
It's nothing wrong with a man being sensitive and in tune,
but he also has to be in control of how much? Yeah,
because I know women still expect us to be men
and still know how to handle situations. And so I
can say that now because I have men and mentors
in my life that say, it's okay to feel this,
but after you felt it, what are you doing differently

(05:59):
to change your outcome?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
And as far as.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Aggressive, if I'm aggressive, I'm aggressive on what I'm working
towards to change the situation, instead of physically being aggressive
to the point that I hurt somebody. Because there's two types,
and my stepdad was the type. I'm gonna beat this
into you too till you fear me. But me, my
aggressiveness is if I'm determined to see something happen, If

(06:26):
I'm hungry enough for something to happen, That's where I
get aggressive at so that it can be done and
I can see the works of what I'm doing instead
of taking it out on somebody. If I feel that
type of aggression, it's gonna come out. That's why I
put it into my creativity so that I could take
it on stage and it's done in a way where
it doesn't have to hurt somebody that I love. Rather,
it's on stage and it can help somebody. See, you

(06:48):
ain't gotta do it.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh, I like that testimony.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Let me try to see if I can get you
a hand. This is you know, we're missing our whole.
I want to bring up something else you said you
talked about in your journal, if you will. You know,
you said, you know I hate mom and all that,

(07:13):
and that could be true or not. But sometimes when
we emotional, we say things, why is it when? Why
is it when the hate from a young man towards
his mother, it's more impactful versus the hate between you know,
any kid in their father, because eventually they forgive that father.
But why is it so hard for the mother to

(07:34):
see forgiveness Because I don't.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I mean, I'm just on the outside looking at it.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't think you hated your mother, but I think
you hated that circumstances, that situation.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Man, you brought this gaal up in here.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
You know he stepdad, So like, what's the difference in
your perspective?

Speaker 6 (07:49):
The the hate wasn't really go I hated my mother.
I was frustrated, right, and so it came actually because
my stepdad be fear.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
In me on a level where I couldn't express.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
And so at the time I was so frustrated with
my mom because it's like, well, one I already don't
know who my actual.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Dad is.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
This dude right here who I'm supposed to call dad
is not giving me what it means to even consider
him a dad. Three when you have no voice growing up,
and of course you know how the Bible say be
obedient so your days will be lone. And sometimes parents,

(08:33):
I gotta get y'all, they don't read the other half
that say, but do not provoke your children. And there's
been times it's like I was provoked, but because I
did want to be obedient, and so it was the
battle of how do you be obedient while being provoked?
How do you say to your parents like you're really
like irking me? But at the time I couldn't do

(08:56):
that because whatever the parents say, you just gotta respect.
That's the law until you get your own, just stay law.
You gotta respect it.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
And unfortunately generation played the part as well, because.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I'm pretty sure we were abused a lot as kids. However,
you know it wasn't like that.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
But I just want to let you know that I'm very,
very proud of you.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
You want to jump in.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I've been waiting for the mentor tals from the crib.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Let me ask you one more question. The probably who knows.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
So do you deem yourself religious or spiritual? Like, tell
me about your connection with the higher power.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
My leader just spoke on this at a hell of
the delivery service. It's a lot of Christians, but it's
few believers, and I'm I'm at a place now. I've
always been spiritual, but I'd rather be a believer because
believers move differently than Christians. So Christians is like a
it's a it's a club. It's it's like, yeah, we

(09:59):
go here, we do this. It's like it's a clique.
And so I don't want to be a clique Christian.
I want to be a believer that lets other people
see like, hey, just because I'm a PK and a
GPK does not mean I'm perfect.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Like I'm gonna break those acronyms that we don't know
who listen.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
I'm a preacher's kid and a grand preacher's kid, So
that means the next set of Owen says will be
a fourth generation. So there'll be a PK, GPK, GGPK
or else.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Right, So we want to make sure we have the
relationship with our creator when we giving God the glory,
and I agree with that. We can't be play playing.
We can't be holy rollers. We want to establish that
connection and relationship with God.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
You you have to, because I mean, honestly, there are
some people I can't get in a suit. Okay, no
matter how much I know the word. Some people are
not gonna get Jesus through me in a suit. Some
of them are gonna get me like this when I'm
on the stage doing poetry.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I love outreach ministry. I love it because.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
That's how you win them.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
If you stay comfortable in the building itself, you'll never
be relatable to the people that are hurting the most.
Like that's how I got connected with poetry for personal power.
That's how I got to the places where, like I
can connect with people that are dealing with mental health,
who dealt with homelessness, who feel like, you know, it's
hard trying to do the right thing, and when you

(11:29):
mess up, Now you gotta find a way to like
get forgiveness, be forgiven, and stay in that place of
you know you're forgiven. Like you know a lot of
people think like it's easy for me, Like I ain't
never did no dirt in my life. Let me be
the first to say I am the dirtiest sheets on
the block, the dirtiest paper that God keeps making fresh

(11:50):
for people to read. Because at the end of the day,
I've been a womanizer because at the end of the day,
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Know no better. A lot of people don't know.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah, Derek used to sell his body to stay on
couches with older women before he really got to a
mature place where it's like, I don't want to stay
with a woman and when she gets frustrated, she can
kick me out at any time. I want my own
So if I do have somebody over there, I have
that right to say no, this is my house, this
is what I want to do. Like I made decisions
where I went against my believer, I went against my creator.

(12:23):
And then people like, well, how are you supposed to
be a man of God but you're doing this?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But what was every man of God's weakness? Women?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Among other things, I mean individuals. That's just what it is.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
And if until you admit your wrongdoing or your sin,
if you will, how you're going to grow past it
or overcome it?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know, you know, okay, hold on, hold on, hold
on me do that? Okay?

Speaker 8 (12:56):
Well, oh, you know, like the Queen had act her
very her very first question that she asked was what
I was going to ask, where did seven come from?

Speaker 7 (13:11):
You know?

Speaker 8 (13:12):
And she she asked that, and you answered, and you
even went into in depth, you know, about Jacob and
you know, and so I'm gonna announce it. She announcewered that,
and then she asked other things about you know, family
or things, and you related about the the father figure

(13:38):
or the father image in your life. And on the
one hand, I can I can relate to not knowing
my father, definitely, but.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
It's hard for me to relate to.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
A step father beating children that's not his in a relationship.
And the reason why i'm'a say that, and i'm'a go
back a little.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Bit, you know that.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
Uh, this young lady that I was in a relationship with,
she had two daughters. I was.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
I was a street person, you know, a hustler.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
And I was a person who right now, I got
this one particular brother say, like, man, I remember when
we used to come to your apartment, used to make
us sit in certain spots, and I did because I
was a person who walked from the front of the
apartment looking out the window to the back of the
apartment looking out the window for polices.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
I had my music low.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
And so when my lady moved in with me, she
had a job and everything.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
So she wasn't like broke.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
She had a car job and a ann had an
apartment out in Spanish Lake.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
But she had the two girls, and so I didn't
have no children.

Speaker 8 (14:54):
And I was a person who you got to be quiet,
and so I never spanked them or anything.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
But I was like, y'all need to keep y'all need
to be quiet. Yeah, and so and.

Speaker 8 (15:08):
They used to like, you know, like I knew that
they was intimidated by my voice. But one thing that
I did, and this kind of going forward a little bit,
one thing that I did.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
You know, when the mother would.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
Cook them breakfast or make them breakfast before they went
to school, she would give them a bowl of cereal
and they would be standing up at the table eating
the beginning to be rushed out because she worked at
the post office, to be rushed out.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
And I'm like, no, y'all, finna sit down.

Speaker 8 (15:36):
I cooked, And so I would cook them some eggs,
get them some cereal, some.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Eggs, and a couple of orange juice.

Speaker 8 (15:45):
So and that's what I did every morning when I
got incarcerated, and she brung them to see me.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
The oldest girl.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Had a rope in her jeans tied up because she
had lost weight from again not eating the way that
I used to feed them. And it was the appreciation
of them coming up to see me and showing me
how much they missed me. But getting back to a

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step father being abusive, you know, I can't you know,
the stepfathers that my mother had into our life, you know,
with the different fathers, and some of them she actually married,
you know, but each one of them.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Was giving me advice.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
You know, there was like a father figure, and so
you know, it allowed me to be able to connect
because other than that, my big brother was my father figure.
And so I did have my older I had two
older brothers, so I did have my older brothers to
look up to, yes, you know, as far as.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Somebody to hang around.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
And even though they was teaching me how to be
a man in a way that I later didn't approve of,
because anytime I had issues in the relationship, they was
trying to tell me how to treat the woman and
it never worked. And so I got to the point
to where you can't tell me how to deal with
my relationship. It's gonna either be successful or failed on me.

(17:22):
Not because y'all gave me some wrong advice, you know,
and I stands on that to this point. Can't no man,
can't no man give me no information on how to
treat my woman or how to treat the woman in
my life, because you ain't got to sleep with her,
you ain't got to do nothing. And so with that,
I kind of, you know, kind of feel the pain,

(17:45):
you know, because there's fathers who get drunk and abusive
and be beaten.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
We can go back to the color purple.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
And that's a good example, you know, I mean a
real good example, you know, of the abuse. But when
you first hit the open mic scene and I was
telling him be queen earlier, when you first hit the
open mic sing we used to be outside talking before

(18:12):
we went into the open mic, and you shared your relationship.
You shared with us your relationship with your mother, and
you shared with us of not having a father, and
you shared with us about the accident that you had
with your.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Toes, you know, I mean you shared, yeah, you shared all.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Of that to talk about that because because he did
it on this social media, and he got plans to.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
You.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
I mean, but he you know, he shared that as
a child to him and you know, and and he've
even showed it on social media. So it's you know,
he ain't ashamed of it, you know. But I'm saying,
how how we connected before everybody else or anybody else
conn And so going.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Forward, I asked you.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
Because when you started commenting that you wanted to do
poetry for church, for the church or gospel, you want
to do gospel poetry. And I think that's how you
put it.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
Yeah, you want to do gospel poetry.

Speaker 8 (19:23):
And I questioned you because I told you, man, you
can't starut of the fence.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
You got to do one or the other.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
He told me, in his words, if if I want
to go hear the gospel, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Go with her. If I want to hear some poetry,
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
Hear exactly because and I'm gonna keep it real because
at that point, you know, my thing was, you know,
like gospel, just like gospel music has its place, Kirk
Franklin shouldn't be in the club, you know, Stomp, you
shouldn't be in the club.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
And I was, I was in the club. I was
at Spruce.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
One of my buddies who I grew up with, was DJ,
and so I'm sitting at his table because his his
DJ that be believing him and his wife or girlfriend
was sitting at the table, you know there there on table.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
So I'm sitting there with them.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
And so Kirk Franklin come on, stump everybody in the
club because it was the two sides that they had
on jealouson it was the old side and the young
side because they had you know, the old head because
they had a young DJ over there.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
But on our side. Everybody got up and started dancing.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
Room Like, wait a minute, I said, that's gospel music.
While she was getting up, she said, yeah, but it's
a you know, it's it's it's or something. And I'm like,
I never could get into Kirk Franklin's gospel music being
in the club to where you sending. You know, now

(20:57):
they say that if you want to go with the senters,
that you go. I mean, if you want to say somebody,
you go where to go where they at? But your
music was not saying his music was not saying. He
was getting paid off of that music. And it wasn't
safe as far as I was concerned. It wasn't saving anybody.
It was giving them another chance to dance to the
devil's music quote unquote. But and I did say that

(21:17):
if I wanted to hear some gospel poetry, I would
go where it's at, because when I go to an
open mic, I'm not trying to be saved, you know.
But now fast forward and people do their testimonies, and
they're doing it and they're sharing their truths, so I
don't it don't affect me like it did then. But
I remember having a conversation with you.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
And when I.

Speaker 8 (21:41):
See you now, you know, because when you will be
on the stages and you will be this placed at
this church in that place, I always hit the like button,
you know, And sometimes I even shared it, you know.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Because you're doing what you enjoy doing.

Speaker 8 (21:59):
Even when you stepped away from Verbs out the work,
and I know that that was, you know, because you
created that platform that was.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Tell me about Verbs, I mean, I mean, tell me
about the birth of it.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
So me and DJ L Business one day got together.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
We was at the Panera's Bread Code right in the Centteresting,
right across from the Parkway Hotel before it became like
these apartment buildings, and I was like, okay, so the
open mic scene was still cool to me, but it
was like, all right, let's be honest, they don't like
the fact that I talk about God. Okay, So I
didn't heard a lot of other poets do erotica pieces,

(22:47):
and I never got offended by it because I'm like,
you know, that's everybody's style is different. So it's like,
you know, that's the beauty of open mic, Like just
because I don't write nothing erotic doesn't mean that I
don't appreciate your art craft.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
It just means I'm not at that level yet. That's
cool with me.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
So I was like, I want something where it wasn't
necessarily I had the control now that I can do it,
but it was like I wanted to still have that
open flow of they're still welcome to come through and
do it, Like I'm not gonna stop nobody from doing
what they do. Like, if you want to do erotica,
you're more than welcome to. But if I want to

(23:23):
still talk about what God is doing for me, I
should be able to do that because at the end
of the day, that's what helped me get where I'm at.
So we sat down one day we had our little coffee.
I had a little Frinch vanilla cappuccino, and I was like, man,
so what's the name of this open might gonna be?
So you know, you got lyrical therapy, you know, you
got the how cool hour you had, you got all

(23:46):
these dope open mics, and I was just like, okay,
I need something that stands out. So you know, I
was always like watching Friends, so I said okay.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So I was like, but I need something where people
can like enjoy after work. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
So then I was like, I don't know. I was like,
we're gonna think of something. So he said what you thinking?
I said verbs and he was like what you mean?
I said, I don't know, but I'm I'm I'm I'm
like I'm playing with it. So he was like, so
like V E, R B S. I was like, nah,
it's got to it's gotta have something is missing something.

(24:23):
So I took the S and put three z's. It's
like verbs after work And then, like Dan Yella, Mone
eventually came up with like the concept of friends with
the little colorful dots in between each letter and I
was like, that's it. Yeah, so's It was a little

(24:44):
rough in the beginning because it was like, you know, yeah,
ain't nobody really like majorly coming through.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
So it was just like staying persistent.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yeah, of course, you know, Twisted came through, l Thought,
came through Lewis Confliction Energy.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It was so many that came through.

Speaker 6 (25:04):
And then there was a moment in verbs where I
was immature in my attitude and I made an ignorant.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I won't even call it a beef.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
I was just upset because I felt like I didn't
get my respect at the time, and so I made
an ignorant, you know, call out to every open mic
and was like, it's whatever, Yeah, I can get it.
So we're gonna do this like WrestleMania, and whoever can
get me will literally have these wrestling belts, which at

(25:34):
the time I was like, look, I can buy another
one from Walmart, so it's really not gonna hurt me
because they're only like twenty bucks. And then another friend
of mine was like he would put on a thousand
dollars and then bragging rights for a year. But the
thing was I was so ignorant and immature about it
because I was hurt at the fact that in my

(25:55):
eyes I felt like I didn't get my respect at
the time, but I didn't realize had not you know,
Twisted paved the way Lewis confliction paved the way Chris
were her reflection the cod poetic one explicit DJ seventy
six kid, like all of these people I'm naming, I
met them all at STLCC for this part of community college.

(26:16):
That's how I met MK Stalins. That's how I got
into like knowing where the poetry spots was like, that's
how I even got to meet like say Herra's Oul's sisters,
Jay Love, like.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
All of them.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
So it was like I had to remember they were
already like probably what seven, eight, ten, so many years
in the game before I even got in. So I
was like, okay, I made this challenge, and then I
had to realize, like eventually I stepped away for a while.
Verbs had already like called a meeting and I was

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in this meeting and then they was like, you know,
we're gonna have.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
To remove you, and I'm thinking you can't remove a founder.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
So I said, okay, you know what, cool, I'm missterree
seven before Verbs I'm mister Portry seven doing Verbs, and
I'm still mister Portry seven after Verbs. Verbs is what
it is because of mister Poetry seven making that platform
for it to be that. Y'all needed help getting to
know how to use your articulate skills in poetry. Like
I've been doing this before Verbs. I was doing this

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as personal p.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Three.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
I was going in and out of state doing different things.
So it's like, y'all really think I needed Verbs.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I didn't. But in the.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Process of certain artists like talking to me, like sixteen
bars Khalil even Lewis had to sit me down and
be like, look, find you first, find who really mister
poetry seven is and be him. And when you can
be that, the love and the respect is gonna be there,
right But until you really own what you do, find

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your voice, your craft, your way, your style, and own
it and be you one hundred percent is like night
and day. You're gonna be fighting for it until really
be you. And it's okay to be you because people
gonna love you and hate you regardless. So it's all
about being you and paying respect to the fact. I
wouldn't be sitting here if the poets before me wasn't

(28:14):
already laying the way out. They would have not been
there for the places they are if the other poets
before them didn't get there. So I had to learn
it's not about demanding respect on the mic. Do what
you do, get off the mic, and if the people
love it, say thank you, and just let them be humble.

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Because again I was arrogant, I was cocky, couldn't tell
me nothing.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I went about it the wrong way.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
And then eventually like that's why I love that Bob
Marley movie so much, because it's like I got a message,
and at the end of the day, the message really
ain't about me. It's for the people that need it.
And when I give it, be humbled in the way
I give it and get out the way, because at
the end of the day, me being the poet is

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really being a messenger that somebody needs something to hear.
And once I've given the message.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Move Okay, you said an ear force. So I'm gonna
try to dissect by asking some questions.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I do find it uberly disrespectful when a founder is
removed from what he or she created and you know
you were there, so it is what it is, so
hopefully you will removed with some form of dignity. If not,
it is what it is. But you, like you said,

(29:41):
you know what cloth you helped create. When you do
a certain type of poetry, whether it's gossip, excuse me,
gospel or what have you, do we have to perform
to what society is now. Like that it thing like
most musicians are in the game, because I do believe
Kurt Franklin. He he changed the style of music to

(30:02):
appeal to the and he's it worked obviously if it's
a gospel song or if it's a torque fast you know.
But you know, look, Stump was the ball when I
think about the good I mean, it was a boy.
So you know, do we have to perform? Do we
have to shift our style or do we be authentically

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true to what we do?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Or do we have to change with the times?

Speaker 7 (30:27):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
If I know who my audience is, right, I don't
have to because what who is meant for? Is who
is meant for? Yeah, Like I'm not everybody's favorite cup
of coffee, and that's okay. That doesn't mean that they're
hating on me. That doesn't mean that we're beefing. It
just means I'm not their favorite cup and that's not

(30:53):
my fault. That's not their fault. They know who they like.
Like it's some people who lose confliction can really compel
better than me. And I can't get mad at that
because God gifted Lewis to do what he does best.
It's some people Khalil can get better than me. That's okay,
it's people you can reach better than me. But at

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the same time, what makes us as poets so like
unique is when we all hit these open mics, we
were getting people, Oh.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
I don't know, I guess forget me. I'm it's not
it's not my phone. I hope you have your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
I hear you.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
But like you know, even with truth, like truth is
so authentically like raw, but guess what people love that. Yeah,
and people are able to relate to that same way.
Like if if somebody else says Sir Irvin William, guess
what he's reaching the people that his his poems and

(31:59):
whatever he does is made for. I can't be mad
at the fact somebody may not feel mister poetry seven.
If everybody is feeling mister poetry seven, that means I'm
not doing my job because I don't need everybody to
be just like oh yeah, give me, give me like
what I want to hear. Like no, Lewis told me
sometimes some of my poems were not the best because

(32:21):
they didn't come from the heart. And I was immature
at the time because it was like, wait, what do
you mean? And he was like, no, sit down and
really like write, take your time. That's that's what poetry
is like, when you really write the stuff that you
know that really bothers you and you don't want to
do it.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
So did P three come after verbs?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Or P three was before verbs? Okay?

Speaker 5 (32:44):
So that's still going on on how to say it? Okay,
tell me give me a little.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
So poetry for personal power.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
I started off as a sponsored advocate artist and we'll
go to Kansas City. We will learn how to become
entrepreneurs through poetry. So we always had this question. We
would ask what's your superpower? So I said prayer, faith,
poetry because that's what helped me through life.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
And so.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
They would have different like poetry slams of course at
for his part Haristoke State University, and I never won
one until it was the second third time they did it,
and I finally want to slam, and I was like,
it's about dog on time.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I won one of these things.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Long time coming, because.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
I mean, because I've never gotten a poem under three ten.
I go five seconds over because the one poem that
never gets me is the poem.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I love the most.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
I'll father you, and I'm almost like five ten seconds over.
I'm like, I gotta find a way to do this
one in three ten, and you practice.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I do.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
But because fans alone there like it's.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
But my thing is, see a lot of them pores
because of the time restriction, no, because of the time factory.
A lot of those porors and those slams just start
talking real fast to where you have to try to
listen to keep up good at time, you know. And
my thing is like, you know, it's like now okay.
So for example, a lot of a lot of the

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slams are like, listen to rap music. If you don't
know this artist, and this artist is reciting I'm gonna say, spitting,
and he's doing it fast. If you don't know the artist,
you can't even keep up with what he's saying, you know,
And so you kind of Losese, you kind of lose
something because you don't know what they're saying because they

(34:45):
speaking so fast.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
But they rapping.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
For those who like rap, their errors slowly, raped down,
slow enough for them to understand even though it's still
going fast for me. You know, you can be listening
to it and you like this, and you can even
be reciting up with them, and I'm like, you're talking
to their players, you know, type of stuff you know,

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And which is why.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
I'll say, man, I'm into the old school.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Rap hip hop because for the most part you can
understand what they're saying, and they were saying something and
not just having a cold beat for.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
A cold track.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
But I want to step back a little bit because
you commented that you and not everybody's cup of coffee.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
And I agree. But see, here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
When I first hit the open mic stage, spoken word groove,
going over to Manchester to the bookshop and stuff like that,
that's my joint that the thing of it was then Nope,
the pause was not trying to compete against each other.
And I'm saying that as a as a a lame

(36:00):
I'm not gonna use the term lane, but as a
novice poet. Because I'm a writer, I said, right now,
even though I've been doing open mic since nineteen ninety nine,
two thousand, I'm a writer because I've been writing since
the seventies and earlier, because I was reading Maya Angelou,
Emily Dickinson, Robert Frost. I mean, when I was in

(36:23):
grade school, we had you know, we was reading and
we had poetry of Langston, hughes, Na, Daniel Hawthorn, James Baldwin,
and so I wanted to be a writer of poetry.

(36:48):
But see before I got hip to them, with the
last poets and stuff, I'm reading these books that these
poets been written, books of poetry and stuff, and I
wanted to be a writer of poetry. You know, I'm man.
I didn't know nothing about open mic for real. I
had been going back and forth to institutions since I
turned twenty, and so that when I got out in

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ninety five, you know you talking about I'm like forty
some years old. So when I when I hit the
open MIC's scene, I'm twenty years plus older than everybody
on the scene except four feet and just Percy Wales,
one of my favorites, and a few other brothers but
we was older than everybody. So and but I it

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wasn't about the age thing. I'm looking at like Impact,
he don't even use the name anybo with Floyd Parkins
Junior Impact. Everybody was signing up that Friday on open mic,
and you had like about twenty as you know, you
had about twenty poets. And I used to watch Floyd. Okay,

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you meant to be rotic, So i'm'a say this right quickly.
I had written songs erotic poetry. But David Ay and
Jackson and Floyd Barkins Jr.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
No, Well, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
But David and Jackson and Floyd, they was telling me like,
you don't need to be graphic with with erotic poetry.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
You know, you be subliminal.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
I quit trying to do erotic poetry, even though my
stuff wasn't graphic.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
But when you mentioned that, I'm not gonna sit in
the audience and.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
A brother gets up there doing his poetry and he
gets graphic with his phallic symbol talking about what. Oh no,
I need to step outside, you know, because because I
don't want to hear you talking about your manhood.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Because it's called wordplay.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Use those words you know, and so when they told
me it's about imagery, you use word imagery.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
So I talk about the seasons, I talk about butterflies,
I talk about the lips and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
But I don't I don't talk about like a woman's.

Speaker 8 (39:14):
I don't talk about a woman's womanhood like I mean,
I'm just saying. I don't say vagina. You know, I
don't say penals. You know, those are two graphics.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
And so I'll give props just like you. I'll give
props like tailor Tailor poet. She's very erotic and I
like her flow.

Speaker 8 (39:38):
You know, you got the other poets out there that is,
you know, like the Poor Nanny poets that oh.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah, that's the name, Poor Nanny Poets. What's her name? Songbird?
Teresa Teresa's songbird, you know, that's her nickname. But I
can't thick her last name.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
But she came through her a couple of times, and
she always comments on the Punanti poets, which all they
do is you rot it.

Speaker 7 (40:03):
Okay. I would love to.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
Be able to do it with word imagery, but I
haven't sat down long enough because I wanted to do
fifty shades great in a in a in a poem,
you know, like like like your uh.

Speaker 7 (40:21):
The song.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
So I was gonna do fifty shaves or great, but
I couldn't. I couldn't sit down long enough to to
put it together. And so anyway, I appreciate those. But
again getting back back, then, every poet, like like I'm saying,
man Floyd Impact, he would be in the corner when
it was his turn to get on the open mic.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
He would be in the corner somewhere, you know, And
so I'm like.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I would check him out.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would check m.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
K out, I would check the rest.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
Of them out, you know, and I'm like, okay, And
so I started rehearsing, you know, trying to perfect my
craft because.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
I was stumbling, you know.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
But that still didn't give him a reason to play
with my name on open mic, but because I still
got traumatic issues with that.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
But anyway, you know, I was green. That's where I
was green.

Speaker 8 (41:13):
And so as time went back, you know, and I'm
not having butterflies.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
You first get on stage and you read to open
up your mouth. All of a sudden, you start talking
real fast. Then you gotta take a deep breath to
slow down. I went through all of that you know,
I still do sometimes. But again, the poets was not
competing with each other. Well, if you're going in there
and sign up, I might want to sign up right
before you or right after you, because I'm already knowing,

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like man, I ain't finna go before here. Like Brother teen,
you didn't want to sign up before Brother Team, and
you really didn't know. You didn't want to sign up
after Brother Team because he's not already captivated the audience
with with his pieces, you know, And so you would

(41:58):
pick who you want to sign up a hand. And
so when you started coming in, I was signed up
always number five. You was signed up number seven. So
I stuck with number five because you was always signed
up a number seven.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
And so everybody had the spaces, I said, right, and.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
So right, because you know, and everybody had particular sign
up spots.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Right, But nobody's saving you know.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Nobody's competing.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
But see now open mics are competing against each other.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
Uh you got you got open mic saying we're the
dopest open mic around or uh, we're the hottest, and.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You know, and.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
We we treat our people like this, and we treat
our people like that, and no other open mic does
this or you know, so you got open mics competing
to be better than the next.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
And but we all using the same poets.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
We all catering to the same poets to sign up
on our open mic list.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
We're all trying to pull in the same audience.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, what's up man? Hello?

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Yes, hello, you're on with the Haiku hour.

Speaker 9 (43:08):
Wow?

Speaker 10 (43:09):
Actually, boy, I was just watching you swipe left, watching
you're watching you just swipe left, swipe left, answer.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
But when I answered, you didn't say anything.

Speaker 10 (43:23):
Well when when you answered, you didn't well, never mind,
he wasn't done.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You could have just left alone and would answer himself.

Speaker 10 (43:29):
But when you push it up, it sends me the
voice man.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
Right, she did it twice, but we thought it was
just somebody up. We thought it was your phone, but
you said, is not my phone?

Speaker 8 (43:40):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, that's what those phone's for.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
That's why, brother, that's what we accepted called.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
I mean, I don't mind you got a question for
the guests, since you own then own.

Speaker 10 (43:51):
Here at I actually do their v queen. Okay, first
of all, my brother, I want to apologized for not
being able to make it, but I wanted to also
let you know that I am very proud.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Of you, man.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
I hope that your open mic is working as well
as you wanted to. And my question for you is
how long have you actually been into the poetry game?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Oh lord, you don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
I don't even pay attention no more. Almost like twenty
years now. Oh wows.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
With me, it's been twenty five.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Yeahs like twenty years now.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
So what's what's the difference between standing your lane and
content slast intent? Because you guys spoke about when you
guys do portry, you like to stay in your lane?

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Like what what is it? Are we talking about? Respect? Disrespect?

Speaker 8 (44:56):
Like?

Speaker 3 (44:56):
What do we so? For me?

Speaker 6 (45:01):
Every every every poet again, from Jay Love to the
Twisted Poet to even cast Mold to the Truth to
Lewis Confliction to w K two MK to like Patient
a lane, like all these poets have an impact to
why I missed poetry.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Saving is who he is.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
And at the end of the day, these poets all
gave me a jewel that helped me be me. So
I'm in no competition with no poet even in slams.
To me, it's a it's a family reunion for me.
And at the end of the day, I'm just learning
to be in my lane whoever I'm allowed to reach

(45:42):
an impact. I'm happy with that because I'm I'm okay
with the fact, like I'm.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Not dumbing down that I can't get more.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
I'm not saying that I can't, but for those that
I can, for the moment, I'm okay with that because
somebody recognized me enough to say, hey, can I be
under your mentorship until I get where you're at? And
so that's the beauty of knowing that, Hey, it took
learning from mk it took learning from the Twisted Poet,

(46:13):
it took learning from Lewis Confliction, it took from learning
from Chris Word that it's okay to learn from the
greats to be great.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
And even like.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
Sixteen Bars recently, his wife came to one of my
open mics and she was like, well, my husband is
the best male poet in Saint Louis. And then he
came through literally and just like spent and I was like, oh,
six s Bars. I said, oh, that's big brother. We

(46:44):
just started laughing. So at the end of the day,
like that's why I say I can say with more
maturity now, like years ago, this version of mister poetry
seven was immature and did not understand like, hey, you're
learning from the people that's been like getting awards going
like Puria Illinois, like Lewis Confliction. It has been on

(47:07):
so many flyers, on so many sets as one of
the features or if not the feature, he is a
headliner for sure, like it's so many other poets I
can name. So it was like that was always my
goal is to get there, but always remember it took
learning from someone that did it to get to where

(47:27):
you can do it. And at the end of the day,
he could be featuring somewhere right now and I'm featuring
somewhere twisted his feature in somewhere, you're featuring somewhere, And
at the end of the day, guess what. It's always
a sign of humility for me, because it's like some
days I may just want to sit still and look
over the work I did and be like, all right,

(47:48):
how do I do better with this?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
How do I make this piece better?

Speaker 6 (47:52):
Or you know, let me just let me just go
to some of these other open mics and pay my respects,
because had it not been for these open mics, I
couldn't get where I'm at.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Yeah, yeah, shout out to all the poets that he named.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I'm gonna throw my hat in there.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
You know you came through recently.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yes, I did. I support his open Mike y'alls, please
support it. You know.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
I take that.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
Stay in your own lane well, and I'm gonna digress
for a second. One Friday, I'm a musclim so as
a muscler, we're taught that man was created on a Friday,
man failed from grace on a Friday. So this particular morning,

(48:45):
I got up on a Friday morning and I posted,
but I'm just saying about man was created on a Friday,
man fell on a Friday, and have a happy Friday
or something like that. And so this particular brother, which
I don't have the name, but the brother posted on
my page. Now he commented on my post. He said, God,

(49:10):
don't say God, God chooses.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
Those who whatever.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
And in other words, he said, you know, stay No,
he said, God, God calls on those who he chosen something,
and he says, stay in your stay in your lane.
And so it was just out of the blue, you know,
And so I commented back, I said, brother, First of all,
any lane I drive.

Speaker 7 (49:37):
In is my lane.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
Oh Lord, you know, and I you know, and I
saw I commented about road raging everything, you telling me
what lane.

Speaker 7 (49:46):
That I can drive in?

Speaker 8 (49:47):
And I went there, you know, I went there so
hard that that at the open mics when that brother
was there, he would mean of me, and I mean
of you.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
You know I ain't.

Speaker 8 (50:00):
But now later the brothers started doing some different things,
you know, other than the open mic, and I became a.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
Part of it. You know.

Speaker 8 (50:09):
He was tutoring at the school around the corner for me,
So when I wasn't working, I would walking around the
corner to play school and be a part of his thing.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Me and the sister Sarah b tolding. We would be there.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
And then when he moved to another spot and I
wasn't able to make it, he slammed me as if
I wasn't supporting him anymore, like, man, you got me
messed up, but now going forward standing in your own namee.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
And I commented not.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
Too long ago on Facebook that I got distracted by
other poets that pulled me out of my my space,
out of my comfort zone, which created a twisted poet.
And when it pulled me out of my comfort zone,
I say it stopped me from being the poet that
I am, which is the romantic poet.

Speaker 7 (50:54):
I hit the scene doing romantic poetry.

Speaker 8 (50:57):
That was it, you know, and that was a few
other brothers that was doing romantic poetry.

Speaker 7 (51:02):
That was my lane.

Speaker 8 (51:03):
So then when I started getting quote unquote kicked to
the curb on the open mic list and then other
people being put before me and stuff like that, and
I started calling people out. So I became the twisted
poet because originally when I hit the scene, I was Khalil,
Kalil the poet and mister movie poetic. He was the

(51:26):
poet of love, you know, And so I just changed
it to Khalil, and then I went to being Kalil,
a twisted poet. And now I'm just a twisted poet
because you know, I embraced my ying yang. I embraced
my angelic and my diabolical. So I try to find

(51:47):
a balance in between my darkness and my daylight, which
is which is makeing me be more in tune with me.
And so I commented that if I hadn't got pulled
off my square, my lane was and is being the
road the most romantic poet that I could beat. And
that's my lane, and so I'm getting back to that lane,
even though I do, like you said, tears from the

(52:08):
Dark Side. That was for those brothers that look, man,
I'm street and so don't get me twisted because I'm
a street person and I got something for y'all. So
that was created Dark Shadows tells from the dark Side.
You know, I used to watch back when I was young.
They had a soap opera. I know this is way
before y'all.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
I mean, I'm serious.

Speaker 8 (52:31):
They had a soap opera used to be on called
Dark Shadows.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
It was never of my lives world.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
You ever google the soap opera Dark Shadows.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
It was.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
It was about a family of vampires and the father
was like born up as college. But it would come
on like once you out of school. It would come
I got about three thirty in the afternoon.

Speaker 10 (52:56):
Three.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
Yeah, I'm talking about back. I'm talking about back in
the seventies, Dad, this particular man.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
But so now you know, so when I hear Dark Shadows,
I keep thinking about that tell Us from the dark Side.
But there's other people who got poems tell Us from
the dark Side. But again the poets, not all of
the poets, but some of the poets nowadays, I want

(53:30):
a quote unquote walk on the stage and act like
everybody's supposed to bow down because they're on the stage.

Speaker 7 (53:38):
I don't support that. I support I don't support personalities.
I support poetry. You know.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
I support your float. You know a lot of people
might not like you, but I really I like your flow.
So I'm gonna, you know, enjoy it. So now when
when when people say stay in your lane again?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Whatever?

Speaker 7 (53:58):
I recycled.

Speaker 9 (54:01):
Him from Pierre?

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Pierre?

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Is that bricks?

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
What?

Speaker 9 (54:07):
Pres?

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Alright, I'm pressing Hello, this is the hour.

Speaker 9 (54:14):
Hey, what's up your.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Laborer?

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Hell?

Speaker 7 (54:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (54:20):
What's theother p like from East Saint Louis over there?

Speaker 10 (54:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Like yello?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
T you got a question?

Speaker 9 (54:32):
Okay, yes, I actually do. I've always wanted to know.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Man.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
But you and I both brothers. You're also based in
the face, so mom e question. But what inspire you
to say, no matter what or what content? I'm on boy,
that's gonna go straight to stay to the guy say

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to God no matter what.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
Ah, Man, you really gonna hit me in the chord
with that one.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Huh?

Speaker 9 (55:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (55:11):
Man, at least you said you was I know, right,
me and him do this every Tuesday night. By the way,
I would have to say it was the it's the
moments when I felt like everything is against me, my

(55:32):
back is against the wall. When I really had moments
I'm like I'm ready to quit, and I just be
like I'm done with everything, even to the point I
was literally about to say I'm done with poetry. And
it was a reminder. One night, God had reminded me

(55:53):
of what it was like being in this like spot
next to the Legacy, and it was just two chairs
and I was sit on one feet propped on another one,
and I would use my clean clothes to cover me
from mosquitoes. And I think that's my reminder of why
I write, and I have a humility to do what
I do, because if I did not write that night,

(56:16):
I literally would have gave up. And I literally saw
like flashes of me just like rotten dead, like nobody
would have noticed until like a dog in this dream
ran in and smelled me, and then like somebody was
like it's a strong foul stench to.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
The point that it was coming out.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
So it was one night you and me talked Pierre,
and I was like, dude, I'm ready to just quit.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I'm done.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
I'm like, I feel like I'm not like I'm not
being heard no more like what I'm praying for, it
just seems like it ain't speaking to me. And you
told me it's in the pit where you really see
where you're at and what's about to be given.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yea.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
So it's not when people are always celebrating me. It's
when I'm by myself and I really gotta think about
the fat what's about to happen now? Because I'm in
I'm in a situation. Everything ain't working the way I
want it to. I'm over here trusting for this, I'm
over here believing for this. I'm over here praying for this.

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In front of everybody, I'm smiling, but behind closed doors,
I'm crying because it's like everybody says I'm strong, But
do you know what strength looks like when you're feeling
a lot of pain on the inside and you can't
voice that, And it seems like the only time you
could voice it is when you're on stage. But you
still have to show them like this is a poem,
but really it's not just a poem.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
This is really happening.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Testimony yeah, and I want to thank you Pel We
really almost out of time, but thank you so much
for supporting your brother.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
But uh, you know we are called the high coup hour,
so I do want to bless you, mister.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Poet seven, with a high coup or two.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Okay, I got some. You ain't got nothing.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Dear to us the guests. All right, let me.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
I'm always leaving it for you because you was always
so good with.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
So that's a good wrap up. It's what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
All right, I don't have a title for this. Stay
in your lane. Who defines you? Excuse me, who defines
who you are?

Speaker 8 (58:25):
You?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Authentically you number seven?

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Wise poet, testimony, king, advocate outreach And that's my high
coup for you.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Young man.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Tell us where we can find you, any platforms, any
new projects coming up, anything you want.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Us to know.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Actually, every Tuesday night I'm at in the Loop restaurant
in the del Mar Loop every Tuesday night. Doors open
at seven. It's five at the door, but if not,
you still can come through and you're welcome. The show
we get started at eight. I actually you have a
book of poems that I'm working on. Call letters to
Derek wow. So these are like letters to me that

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I didn't get to hear from the dad that I
was looking for.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Oh wow, I have my.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
First stage play that I'm still finishing and looking for
people to help out with.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Call when Poetry and Love.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Meets There's another podcast I'm getting ready for in Granted
City this week. And then July twenty seven is that
We Shine Together award ceremony. Me Lewis, Confliction and three
other artists all made it to the through three rounds
and now July twenty seven we find out who's the

(59:38):
best male post of the year at the end of
the day, even if I don't get it, this is
the second time to be like nominated in Saint Louis,
so I take that as an honor that my name
is even mentioned.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
And so you can find me on.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Instagram, m Poetry, double O seven, Facebook, Derek Owens.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
It just catch me every Tuesday night.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
I heard the man.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
So we're gonna wrap up this edition this the Haku Hour.
Thank you, mister Poe.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Seventh, Thank God for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
All Right, we're gonna end it. I'm gonna do a
little snippet fool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
And you're strong shin your light to the dark, and
this is young. There's some nights yet. The vibe in
the room