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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Allmers was not after all.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You finding the baby. It's nine o'clock.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
This b.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I've been making by the bone than you make ups
kind of that ship not mine, God said, stop here.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I think.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You don't say the way you can.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Get up getting you got mine the strong friend.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
The same enough, and I'm the.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Fallen. Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yes, I.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, everybody. I go by the name of
the Queen, and I like to welcome everyone to the
September edition of The High Cool Hour. I would like
to welcome our wonderful, wonderful guest.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
To my left.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
She goes by Jay Lot Yo. Welcome and welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, truly
always always. I'll give an honorable mention to her husband,
Pierre a Lot. You know he was on the show,
what a month or two ago? Okay, two months ago,
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but you know she came to outstage you. I just
want to let you know that it's all right. He
knows his gang, right, So jy Lot, Yes, tell me
about Jay Lot.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Oh, let's see you were from my perspective for everybody
else's perspective. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Hand account there you go, all right, So who am I?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I am a Christian artist, poet, singer, writer, actress, worship leader,
worship her. So there's a lot of titles that I
go that I have. I am a wife of five
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years next February. Okay, I am a little sister, I
am a big sister. I am a daughter. I am
a spiritual mother. I am a spiritual mentee, mentor. I mean,
I am a mentor. I just I love kids. I
love helping and being available to young women, you know,
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being able to encourage them that where you are in life,
if it's not where you want to be, that's not
your final destination kind of thing. Realistically, I'm just super
laid back. I don't, you know, get into a lot.
I keep to myself. You know. This is a different
platform for me. So I'm just like, well, I'm gonna
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be on the radio you guys in you know. But yeah,
that's that is who I would say I am.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So I'm gonna bring out all those titles, Okay, well
of them. Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
I want to embrace the fact that you worship and
you are a worshiper. Yeah, it's almost like leader follower, right,
And people think the word follower is a bad thing,
and it's not.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's not.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
In order for you to lead, you must first follow,
or listen, or participate or practice however you want to
deem it.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
So you tell me the difference between when.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
You worship versus you being in a position of worshiping
if you.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Can, okay, So as a worshiper, I truly empty myself.
With me, there cannot be me and God present. Ever,
so when I'm in a serious place of worship, my
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husband will tell you, don't touch me unless I'm about
to hurt myself, you know, Just let me and God
have our time, like don't you know, don't don'truptry, but
you know it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It is.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But after I mean, that's it's it's a serious place,
and it's a place that I love to be. It's
a place that I never want to leave, you know.
But as a worship leader, my job is to bring
people to the place where they are also in an
intimate spot with the Holy Spirit with God. Take this
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time and whatever you came in here with, leave it
at the foot of the of the Father. That's that's
not your your boulder to hold, let it go.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I used to go to.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
The temple of deliverance on thirty ninth and wavering shout
up to my pastor. Past Reporter Robert Porter was my
pastor at the time. And when you walk into before
you walk into the church, it says on a little
you know, regular display, boy, lay aside every week.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Contentment, discontentment, doubt, pain, double mindeds, whatever, whatever the adjective.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
That's opposite of what have you? Lay aside every way.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
So when you enter the doors, you want to enter
with thanksgiving and praise and expect to see and just
ready to go.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Now.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I want to first say, because this is a touching subject,
because society is not ready for the religion talk intimacy
into me c into but most people take that word
and make it fleshly. So I just want to acknowledge
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that you two are in a union where you become one,
and it's a blessing thing.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I knew the boy would he an't have a movie nothing, right,
he didn't ha he his walk was different, right, his
talk was different. He he was a loner.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Mm, he was in his own right what have you.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
But when two becomes one, it's a powerful thing.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
And I think that's beautiful that you complete him in
a way that's unimaginable. But you guys don't forget who's
the center, right right, you don't forget who's the center.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
So when when the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The I be like, you know, right, I'm just like
and you know and it's and it's it's great that
cause you mentioned something. And I tell people this all
the time. You're like, you complete him. Y'all complete each other.
No God completes us. M I met. I had to
make myself whole first before I met Pierre. Mkay. We
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are not fifty fifty. We are wh h of one hundred.
He is my other whole because there's no way that
he could He should not rely on me for life.
And that's that's the bottom line. And I told when
we were dating, when we were recording, I told him,
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I love you, but you've been not ever loved me
more than you love God ever. And I still mean it,
because who am I. I'm your wife, I'm your help meet,
I'm your your your rib That's that's very it's beautiful,
But who you are and God is more important to me.
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And it's always been that way.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Intimacy. I'm just saying there it is, right, So you're
a singer. Yeah, talk to me about that.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Okay, that's not the part of me that I actually
like putting out there. Okay, I do sing at church, right,
I do sing around Pierre of course, right, right. But
when I I was singing when I was little, just
kind of you know, playing around with the vocals. All
of my immediate family singing, all of my sisters, my mom,
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my dad, my some of my uncles and my aunts
sing as well, and it's just we're just a musical
artistry driven family. And so I didn't really start singing singing.
It was so funny my mom, Uh, we used to
go to one of my childhood churches. She was like,
you're gonna sing in a praise team in the choir
as long as I'm going to this church. And I'm like, yes, ma'am.
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You know I didn't. Yeah, not gonna do that. But
that opened the door for me to sing at school.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I was in high school at the time, right, And
I got into the one of the nation's best choirs
at the time at Normandy High School, Class O six.
No you know what I'm saying, but but no, I
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was playing around with my voice sinking mister Brown. And
that's how I got into the choir at school, and
you know, biased opinion at the time, they were the
best choir in the nation, and to be in the
choir said a lot about you vocally. And then I
got to college and I sang. I did a lot
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of musical theater, and so that turned into classical training,
so operatic training, and from there it just kind of
fizzled because I loved singing and I loved art, but
I didn't like school. And I was like, man, I
didn't realize I had to do all of this to
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go and get a degree in the what I want
to do. I was like, I don't I don't want
to do this anymore. So I dropped out of school.
But I kind of stopped singing also, and as I
got older, I started back, you know, just kind of
singing candidly. So when I met Pierre, he was like,
I always wanted a woman that can sing. I'm like, well, hey,
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you know, and that was that. And so once we
got married, our church kind of was looking for more
singers at the time, and I'm like, well, I'll help
you out. And then that led to one thing to another,
to another.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
And here I am, what did you want to be
when you grew up?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I wanted to be an astronaut and a meteorologist and
an Air forceman woman. I wanted to be in the skies.
I didn't I didn't want to act or sing or
any of that. I wanted to be in the skies.
I am fascinated with the clouds. I'm fascinated with the stars,
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cloud formations, tornado storms. I love it. But you can't
run from your calling.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
What led to that fascination? Was it some of you
song on TV?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I just I've always been fascinated with the sky. I
don't know what. I don't know, I don't know what.
What did that? I just like looking up my grandmother's
rest in peace. They they both have passed away. I've
always said my grandmother's will talk to me through the clouds,
and when I look up, I'm talking to to one
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or both of my grandmothers. And one day they actually
talked back, and I was like, that's why, there you go.
I don't know what started it, but what kept me
there was I look up to the skies and I
take that time to really kind of reflect and hey, grandma,
miss you I love you. I hope I'm doing well
kind of things.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I love miss Grandma.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Boy, Yeah, talk about a shout out to my grandma,
shout out to Jay. What's the difference between praise and worship.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And your perspective? Praise and worship? Okay, So for me,
worship is giving God the respect and the honor for
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who he is. Praise is thanking him and giving him
honor and glory for what he has done. And they
go hand in hand in my opinion. If they you
can't worship and not praise. You can't praise and not worship,
because sometimes your worship leads to a praise, and vice versa,
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your praise leads to a worship. It's like you said,
into me, see it is Lord looking to my heart.
Please forgive me for what I've done. Lord, and I
and I thank you for who you are. Thank you
for what you've done in my life and others life
around me. That's it's important. Like I love to worship
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and I I love praising even more cause God is good.
You know he is good.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I'm told you were a poet.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
What type of themes do you focus on where you
are displaying your art artistry?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I focus on what God wants me to focus on.
And that sounds so cliche. I'm a Christian poet and
I focus on what God wants me to do. But
I do every poem that I have written that I
still have and have access to, cause I lost a
bunch of my poems with my old phone. But the
poems that I still have and I have access to,
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we're all Holy spirit driven.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
When I when I do write, Lord, what do you
want me to say to your people?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Mm?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And that is literally how it starts. I'm like, Lord,
show me what you how do you want me to
do that? And a lot of the times, the words
and the the the rhythms and stuff is is what's
written down. And then when I'm on stage doing ministry,
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my pastor is very very stern about saying this is
a ministry because it is. I'm not doing this for myself.
I'm not on stage for you. Also acknowledge jail or
j lot. When you look at me, I pray that
you see the Lord m And when I get on stage,
I don't pray. I say Lord, please, I don't. I
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don't pray about Lord. Let me get the glory. I
say Lord, please let you get the glory and Lord
help me to deliver this. How you see fit?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, it's all of you are none, I mean Vessel,
Oh did you have two sisters? Add anybody?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Right, As far as I'm concerned, I definitely want to
a piggyback on the praise and worship part. Uh if anything,
like like Jay said, it goes hand in hand. Praise
is just pretty much acknowledgement. It's pretty much just saying, yeah,
God is good. Uh, he deserved all the honor, glory
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and praise. And yet worship is more like, Lord, you
are good.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's when you get the.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Intimacy part, when you're truly giving God the honor, glory
and praise in the field in the level that you're in. Uh,
not everybody is in level ten or eleven or level
one hundred. Sometimes God will want you in the level
that you're in. So if you starting off state where
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you started off, if you're crawling in your praise, crawling
your praise, you.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Can take your first step chance to walk right.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Yeah, and if you're standing, if you're learning how to
stand while you're praising, do that. So whatever the level
you in, don't be like mother, mother, luis that that
two steps.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And be like all right, alright, alright. If you're not
in that level, don't try to get in. Don't try
to pursue that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And when the Holy Spirit knows when you're faking, because
your praise is personal, it will separate you from those
who are just dancing as opposed to you giving God
your best praise. That may be in the form of
a dance, that may be in the form of you shouting,
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that may be in the form of you just lifting
your voice or lifting your hands. Don't don't try to
play with don't play with the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I think it's.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Beautiful that.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
You guys are on one accord. Know, the word does
say when a man get married, he leaves his home, yeah,
which is the family home force and he should be
under a household with his wife.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So I pray you guys, you know, continue to cherish that.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
We live in a world, in.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
A society where it's so many distractions, where AI is
quote unquote king, or where the digital media overtakes.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Our children's mind. What is your perspective on that?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Okay, excuse me. I believe there is an age of
accountability where at one point, you have to seek God
for yourself. What I believe, and this is me being
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completely honestly transparent, What I believe is that parents are
they're wanting to keep peace, and so what it is
is they're letting their children be who they are, when
really I believe the parents' job is to help children
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to become who God wants them to be. When I
was growing up, my sisters, my mom, and my dad
kept me in church, whether I wanted to be there
or not. I went through a period where I didn't
want anything to do with God. Why did you do this? God?
Why did you do this to me? And then I
almost lost my life and I'm like, all right, God,
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I'm too young to die. Help me. And he did.
He came through and that was a pivotal moment in
my life where I went from just a child who
believes in God to actually serving the One True God.
And I believe that children need to be present in
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that in that transition. Go to church, you know, if
you're if your church doesn't have a children's ministry, start one,
you know, take spearheaded you know, hey mom, hey Dad,
I want to I want other young people like myself
to be.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Here.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I want them to know God, like how you have
helped me to know God.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
And like they said, we live in an age of information,
but we also live in an age of rebellions.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, and these kids.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Are off the chain, and you know, I do want
to lift up, you know, these youth and prayer who's
going through psychological issues, who got trouble at home?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
You know, I know you guys heard about the school situation.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
What's what's funny? I don't mean to interrupt. My cousin
actually goes to that school. Oh really, yeah, she's safe,
Praise God. But that was a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Prayer, prayer for her and Astley, the people who survived that.
It's gonna need some long time. Yeah, situations, But.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
My pastor was talking about you know chooji, in which
you know the Lord you're gonna serve, and you know
you wake up every morning, you know, thank you God,
or just going about your way and you don't think,
you don't think you're gonna die, You don't think your
day is gonna end like that. So you know, I
always talk to my kids about the littlest things. The
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mustard seed portion. You know, you woke up thank God
because my kid be waiting and you know, our kids
are learning, they got so much to learn, and you know,
we as parents, it hurts so much because we want
the best for the babies.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And we don't want them hurt. Like I'm not a parent,
I'm not about a biological parent, but I call my
like my little sister and my little cousins and stuff
my babies, my littles. We never ex even as a guardian,
I don't want my littles in the in the way
of harm or trouble. I want you to go to
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school and be able to come home and tell me
about your day, not for me to fear that when
you walk into the school you'll never come out. I
don't That's That's nothing any adult, responsible adult, or or
a guardian or parents should ever want for a child.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
We want to reassure our children that they're loved, because
some people step outside those four walls and don't feel that.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Yeah, half the time, what our.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Children is going through with some sort of emotional anger situation.
I'm gonna call it the situation because we don't know
what's going on. And you know, by these while bids
living in modern times, they want to kind of hold
that inside, you know, and I just I just pray
for them because it's real serious.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
It really is a spiritual warfare.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
But it is. And a lot of unfortunately I hate
to bring this up like this, but a lot of
are black babies, black families and parents and homes. Therapy
is not really something that they encourage. It's like I've
actually literally heard it from the mouths of a handful
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of people. Therapy is for for the week.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And and that's okay, that's therapy.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
That's the opinion. But there's nothing wrong to.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Feel the way they feel. And it's like I can't
say you're wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I can't say you're right. I've got to go through
my experience. I mean, therapy is helpful for me. We
can't do it alone. So if you're not gonna go
to a therapist, who you gonna go to. If you're
a musician, you're gonna go to the studio. If you're
a poet, you're gonna write a book, if you author,
you know, So if you feel that the orthodox therapist,
you know, psychologists, if that's not for you, that's fine,
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but I guarantee you they getting there.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah, yeah, they And And what I love too about
about God is he will meet you there, He'll meet
you in the studio, He'll meet you in the pages
of your book, of a book of a situation. You
know what I'm saying, And it's it's amazing how God
shows himself so strong in our lives by what we
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believe is gonna be what helps us to the end.
You know, I just I love God for that as
as you should write, right, yeah, right, you.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Should be proud of yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You should be.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
You said fifty titles. Tell me some of those titles again,
so I can kind of in that.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So we went into the singer, We went into the poet,
We went into the worship leader, worshiper, writer, spiritual mom,
spiritual mentor. I am a spiritual daughter. My spiritual mother
just moved to Detroit. Shout out to Miosha. And I
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am a daughter, I am a little and big sister.
I am an aunt. I'm a favorite cousin of somebody.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Now, did I ask you how long you've been writing poetry?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
You did not, Okay, And writing poetry since I was
about twelve, I don't know. I've I've used to write
like little little rhymes and stuff like that. Our school
used to make us write write a poem for your mom,
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or write a poem for your sister or something. Write
a poem about this flower. And that's kind of where
it started. I fell in love with words at a
very early age, and it just kind of I just
considered it just something that I do. It was never
a hobby, it was never a career path. It was always, well,
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I like to write this. Hey read this poem, Hey
read this. I wrote this note, read that, let me
let me know how sounds. I was always that person.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
And I love portray because you start off writing and
you don't have any context about it, and then as
you grow, you develop and you.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Start having a meaning to the writing, right, and you
just just go with the flow. Right. But what motivates you.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
The little people? And when I say people, when I
say little people, I mean people younger than myself, sometimes
even people older than myself. What motivates me to keep
writing and to be an encourager by way of words
is for those people who don't see themselves as God
sees them. I'm stuck. I can't stop these drugs. I
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can't stop, you know, having sex with all these people.
I'm you know, I'm living this lifestyle and I don't
want to. Okay, well you don't have to. It's not
that easy.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I know.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I get Oh, I get it because meet me me.
Growing up, I had a little dibber dabber with drugs, alcohol, sex, lesbianism,
whatever was out there, I did it. It's very hard
to leave that lifestyle even now. And I tell people
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a lot. I'm like, what you're struggling with. Getting married
does not rid you of it. You still struggle with lust,
you still struggle with loneliness, you still struggle with things
that are a struggle or that was your struggle. It
never necessarily just ceases. But that's where your relationship with
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God comes in. I had to seek God and say, Lord,
I really don't want to live this way. I want
to be a wife and not to another woman. I
want to be a mother and not a baby mama.
My sister I'll never forget. She was like, Jesse, you
are not destined to be a baby mama. You will
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be a wife and then you will become a mother.
And I held on to that and I'm like, there's
no way the wife I was living, I'm like, there's
no way all I am is whatever I am to
these whoever? Whatever you know, let me let me go
get get drunk. You know, it's been plenty of times
I've started my day sober, ended it blackout drunk, don't
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know where I'm at? Where's my car? Who is this?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Where's my car? I can't get some movie called that right?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But I really had to say, okay, this is not
if it started, it had to start with me, do
I How how bad do I want to change? How
bad do I want to change? How how much am
I willing to give up to get it?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You know?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Jay, get ready for overflow. But I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I hear you payingpoint of your weakness. Man, I'm sure
you displayed them to your husband. What was your thought
about these weakness?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I asked her to give me details within details, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Because by bye brick, right, because truth be told.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
When she started mentioning all all her her.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Testimonies, right, because that's what they are.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
I literally start asking questions, especially on the lesbianism part.
I was asking real questions like were you to give
her or you the receiver?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I gave him a real answer. I was both.
Let's be honest. I was you know I mean, and
I even I even took it to the point of this.
I'm like, you probably won't believe me, but lesbian sex
was the best sex I've ever had. However, I did
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not want that for the rest of my life. I
did not want I knew what the word says about homosexuality, lesbianism,
living in the world, lust of the flesh, things like that,
and I knew what I wanted, what my flesh wanted.
And it's hard to keep both. You can't do one
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and the other. You have to do one or the other.
And I guarantee the or other it's gonna overpop.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I just seriously want to commend you for that particular
emotional piece, because let's be honest with me, emotion piece
is gonna.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
I don't know if you doubt that your marriage.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I don't know if you doubt it sometimes when you
watch TV she see Holly Berry.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
No.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I'm just saying, but because you know you guys, I'd
like to believe this.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Before you guys, oh yeah, gotten to this union, you
probably felt some type of way, and I like the
fact that you guys said that you want to address that.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, And if you have any hesitation on your part
or doubt or.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Something absolutely not. If anything, it made me more comfortable
to know her more. Okay, I wasn't that type of
judgmental question where I'm condemning any anytime I hear about
some homosexual activity. I'm the type of Christian that's like, well,
in this particular category and topic, let's talk about let's
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talk about it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, And there's been plenty of times, like one of
the things that has worked for us that we tell
a lot of our single friends too. We talk like
we get down and talk, you know a lot of
the stuff like what I'm saying here, you know me
all of my testimonies and stuff. That's something that I'm
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okay with telling because somebody might need to hear my testimony.
So I tell my girls I used to be a
residential person, a residential worker at a organization that helped
young girls who were sexually exploited, who were trafficked and
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stuff like that. And I used to tell my girls
all the time. They were like, well, why did this
happen to me? And I would have to get real
with them. Sometimes what God takes us through is not
just for us. Your testimony of how you got out
and how you got over. This may be for the
next generation of young women for you to tell them
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how you did it. And I feel that about a
lot of what I've gone through. I didn't go through
the first half of my life how I did for myself. Yeah,
it opened my eyes. But my testimony in all of
this helps has helped many young women, even older women
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like I don't know how, I don't know how to
get out of this. Well let's start here. Do you
want to change? Do you want to get out of
what you're doing? That and admitting that you want to
change is a big deal. I had to admit that
I wanted the change, and I had and and the
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Lord had me to be in the presence of people
who helped me. My spiritual sisters, my spiritual brothers, my
spiritual mother, my my actual biological mother, my my dad,
my sisters. They helped me a lot. But I also
have sisters and brothers in the faith at our church.
Shout out to Calgary Barby Church of Floor sent disclaimer
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plug Robert Lloyd Seniors, our head pastor. Lord.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
You don't know the pastor na.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Robert Lord. Yeah positive if he's watching this, shout out
to Pastor.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Lloyd communication how important communication?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Oh, it's so important.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
So when they say communication is key, what is that?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
It literally is the key into understanding, into intimacy, into growth,
into you know, vulnerability, vulnerability, vulnerabil.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Accountability and.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Vulnerability. And it's like it's bigger than the key to
the city. You if you don't have the key to
the city. I mean, I want that key to the
city right right because saying.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It's a big key, I don't know where they got
the key.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I just I don't know where to key go to.
But I want the key to the city right to
the city specifically. But the key of communication is so
important when and I and I tell Pierre and I
where we haven't been married but ten seconds, it seems,
but we've had a lot of couples come to us.
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How how important is communication? Is very important? If with
the conversations we had when we were recording helped us
in the beginning part of our marriage. And I have
to you have to tell a lot of young couples
that first year of marriage is horrible because it's two
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characters to personalities, two people trying to become one under
the same space. You're going is I knew for a
fat Pierre and I was going to divorce after our
first what for six months, I knew it. I don't
even want to do this anymore. You get on my nerves.
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But we had to pray through it. We had what
is the problem, What is it that we need to
work on? Tell me how you're feeling? How can I
how can I fix? How I come to you about
this situation? Like that's important. It's life or death, really
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and in reference to marriage, giving life to your marriage
or watching it die, it's really important. Divorce on the
table absolutely, Oh gosh.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
No, the word was even brought up. We agreed that
we're in it to We rather accept the word death
than divorce.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Ye, my lord, I delivered the eulogy for somebody. I
love the fact like you guys cherished the word marriage,
Like what does that mean to you? Guys?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Well, I would say this.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Marriage is for me. It's always been the thing. Even
when I was a loner, it was alone, I was there.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Despite the fact that I was one, marriage was still
a thing for me because I only saw enough of
it when it came to my grandparents, when it came
to certain members of the church, marriage means so much
to the point where it's like, I know for a fact,
I don't not want to leave this world alone, even.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
If I do.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
God on his time, if I do go before her,
I do not want to leave without knowing that I
did more than just whatever whatever on this earth by myself,
on earth.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Spirits that happens, that togetherness, that partnership and all that.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I'm still ya.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
And then for me, marriage was really important. I watched
all of my sisters get married, and when I was
still single, I was like, I was like, Lord, I
want my relationship to be my marriage to be a
little bit like this, and a little bit like theirs,
and a little bit like that. And my sister was
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the one that gave me, the sister right before me, Tanisia,
she gave me. She was like, you don't want your
marriage to be like ours. You need your marriage to
be like yours. And but I admired my sisters in
their marriage, how they went from just my sisters to
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now they're my sisters as wives.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
But Alicia, she ain't throw that little hend She don't
don't be on the outside looking in now, don't you
don't know what's going on inside at.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Home, and I understand it. Now. We've had a bunch
of people. I want our mar my marriage to be
just like yours. WHOA, No, you don't.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
I mean that's good. You're not airing it out.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
That's a good thing about marriage. You're gonna have those
rocky roads and that's okay. And that's all just you know,
people want to make that comparison.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I want it to be like yours. I'm like, make
it like yours.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Because you can you see God for the marriage that
you that you feel that He feels you need to have.
You don't want your marriage like ours. And that's not
to say that our marriage is not great. We've had
people tell us, oh, y'all are just such a power couple.
He ministers and you minister, and then y'all just work
so well together. Y'all compliment each other. But thank you
to God be the glory, because I have wanted to
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push him off natural bridge. Mm hmmm mm hmm, because
you know, because I grew up here in Saint Louis.
He's from East St.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Louis represents shout out to East St.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Louis.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
You were saying, right, but.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
You know it's It's been plenty of times where I'm
just like, Lord, I don't finna go to my daddy house.
I can't.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Let me be known how you feel.
Speaker 7 (40:42):
Because at the part of you make me sick or
get out, yeah, and other adjectives in the midst of
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Right, you're a smart man watching what you say on that.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
And then some Right, So the cooling part will always
be more more because now once all the smoke is clear,
all the steam is out, all the glass picked up, yep,
and all the water has been mopped up, how you
really feel now you're hungry? You're thirsty some juice, Okay,
(41:26):
I'm gonna go around. Questions get asked on the cooling part.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Because shout out to the marriage under file, because father,
But it's it's very important that that, like you said,
you once you air out, you're just like, Okay, I'm
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still upset, but let's talk m because it's more like
he said, than your shouting or you get on my nerves.
It's how you hear it, how you respond to it
as well. Did you actually hear what I was saying?
Did did what I say out in the midst of
me yelling. Did it make sense that this is not
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what I wanted you to do? Or this is how
I understood what happened, or whatever the case is, Mike,
It's important in marriage to know how to fight.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
It's important in the marriage to just laugh together. When's
the last time y'all laughed together? Tell me a laughable story?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Oh, father, we got too many. It's hard for us
to actually do one story.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Pick one and come dance. Do y'all need to rock
papers or it?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Or nah, we need we need to do that. Whole
will on price is righteous. Okay, like this.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
One moment where Jay, this is the middle of the
night where I'm must say, and Jay's in the kitchen,
I'm sleep and next you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I'm hopping out the bed. My foot is hurting like
a mug, and.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
And I'm going through all this stuff just to see
that she's pointing at a very small centerpede. It scared me,
and it's like, really, yeah, grab me a tall paper towel,
grab that centerpiece, squeezed it up a little bit, and
gave it a funeral at the tarlet Bowl.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, my lord.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Or the one story that we find hilarious all the
time we were in Walmart. This was still we had
been married.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
For what two months? It was after after the COVID
soaka it was it was before that.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Whenever, it was we were a whenever we were in Walmart.
And so you know the Walmarts now have those little
those little doors that swinging you walk in. I had
never seen it before. I've been in we I had
been a resident of Illinois for what two and a
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half two Yeah, And I was like, I have never
seen this before. This is so cool, Oh my gosh.
And so you can walk in them. What I didn't
know is that you couldn't walk out. And so we're
going through the door and I'm like, all right, we
got everything we need. Al head, come on, Bay, let's go.
And I'm like it's open. And I rutold my way
through the through the doors and he and the alarm
(44:31):
star going off, and I say and I take off
running to the car and he's like, I'm so sorry, y'all,
that's my my, my, my wife. I'm sorry. And he
we walked out to the car and he was like Jay,
I was like what he was like, you just set
off that alarm. We could have got in trouble. No,
uh like it was just so innocent and playful because
(44:54):
I'm like, I had never seen those doors before. But
we got so many stories. We was laughing about something
so silly early, like yesterday, we were laughing about something.
It was hilarious. But laughter is important. It's very important,
you know. It's you have to know how to laugh
and to be silly with your spouse. Like people are
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like Pierre, he's so cool, he's so laid back. I'm like, okay,
sure he is too. Yeah, that's you know, that's who
they know. They know the cool Peter song Pierre.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
And I'm like, okay, you mentioned you have a spiritual
family father, mother, Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 5 (45:37):
What does that mean? Spiritual family?
Speaker 4 (45:39):
So I want to preface this by saying, I am
a horrible person to make calls. I don't reach out
as half as much as I should, and I'm sorry
for that. I got PTSD talking on the phone. I
can't make calls as much as I used to. But
my spiritual mother came about being my spiritual mother because
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I would go out. We were She used to be
my boss and so I used to go into her office.
I would be having a really rough day or something
like that, and I'm just going there and I'm like Meosha,
I'm just having a really terrible day. She was like,
what's wrong? And we would just kind of talk. And then,
you know, my family is my immediate family is also
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a foster family. So one of our first fosters came
in and he was just in bad shape and I'm like, Moosha,
this is our new baby. He's really going through it.
She was like, come on, let's pray for him. And
we prayed in her office and she would encourage me
and she would really pray for me, and we would
have lunch together and it was just it was such
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an awesome transition from worker and boss to friends, to
spiritual daughter to spiritual mother. And then I found out
that she also Pierre's cousin on his father's side, So
I'm like, oh, you family anyway, and so that having
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that type of person, having those type of people are
important people that you can really go to war with
and pray with and just exist with sometimes, you know,
like our pastor, I consider him my spiritual father. I've
known him for going on thirteen years. Him and my
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first lady's sister Nikki and I. When we talk to
Pastor Lloyd, sometimes it's just like talking to my father,
and it's so it's an enrichment, it's so encouraging. Sometimes
it's hilarious. We just talk and we're so candid with
one another. And I appreciate that because a lot of
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people look at their pastor as this super high pedestal,
next to God type person. My pastor will tell you,
you will humble himself in a moment like who am I.
I'm just I'm just Robert is what he used to
what he says, I'm just Robert. Well, you're also a father,
You're a spiritual father, you're a godfather, you are our pastor.
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But you are also a teacher, you're a leader. You
actually we have to tell my pastor sometimes to sit down, like,
don't touch that. We got the trash, we got this,
we got that. He's I just wanna help. But that's
the type of person that he is, and I appreciate
that because people who have a mindset to just want
to serve and want to help are sometimes some of
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the best people to just talk to because they're gonna
make sure that you know all honesty, all you know
bs to the side. I'm not gonna mine to you.
I'm not gonna candy cod it it sugar coated or whatever.
This is what's happening. This is what's going on, and
you need to know.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Well, thank you so much for giving them their flowers.
You always have to do that.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
And I'm I'm I'm a woo, I'm a stickler on
support system. Yeah, we have to have a support system.
We cannot do it alone. Absolutely, And I'm really glad
that you got your counterpart, you got your spiritual family.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
That is extremely important.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
And my immediate family. Shout out all my sisters, my mom,
my dad. I couldn't do life without y'all, truly, Like
I don't. I feel like I don't give my sisters
and my mom and my dad flowers enough. Like my
sisters are a very huge part in how I grew
up and how I go to church, how I worship,
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how I read, how I read my Bible. My sister
Sharita used to read me Bible stories at bedtime. Oh
my gosh, I will never forget it. We would just
cuddle up and she would read me Bible stories and
I would go to sleep and she would just tuck
me in. That stuck with me. And so now when
I read my Bible or when I'm reading anything, you know,
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they they she also told me, and my dad also
told me, don't just read the verse. Don't just take
it the face. You read the ones before and after?
What is the context? You know? They they taught me
a lot. I love my sisters, my mom, my dad.
Shout out to y'all, Pierre, shout out to you, like, truly,
I don't know what I would do without y'all. Truly,
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you better stop that, right also right, shout out for
this platform and that you have have developed, like this
is my first time ever doing something like this. This
(50:43):
is amazing that you have this platform for people to
just come in and just step down from being an artist,
step down from being in the limelight, and say, hey,
who are you? Tell me who you are? Like that's
I love that, and I thank you for having me here.
And I think I think you too, because wow, you know,
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I just you've been quiet over there. Yeah you've been quiet,
but I I justized by my interview skills.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
He got he got that bas No, I got cheese.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
No, you.
Speaker 6 (51:25):
Were called the Haiku hours. So we can express ourselves
through poetic regardless. I don't know about y'all, but when
I was in school, we had little poetry page that
was one page in the high coup section that was
half a page.
Speaker 5 (51:40):
And then after that week we didn't we didn't learn
nothing else. But I was always fascinated with Haiku's haikus.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
Focused on the syllables, and I always thought Haiku, even
though Haiku's former poetry, I always thought it was harder
to do.
Speaker 5 (51:53):
That poetry because you have to come up with something
in a confession. Yeah, so you know what it is. Yeah,
but I'm going to deliver something in a second, not
literally a second.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
But I got you. I got you.
Speaker 6 (52:06):
But I just want to commend you on your life journey.
I want to command you on acknowledging the community. So
when you hear the word leader, what are.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
We talking about?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
What is a leader?
Speaker 4 (52:23):
A professional follower.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
A professional follower? What is a professional follower?
Speaker 4 (52:30):
Someone who is able to take criticism, constructive criticism, someone
who is able to admit wrongs and be accountable. Someone
who understands that everyone has a starting point, and everyone
has a point where you do transition naturally into a leader.
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Somebody who is not necessarily a boss or like an overseer,
but someone who you can go to to be an example,
because you can't be a leader without being a follower.
And even as a leader, sometimes you still have to follow. Yeah,
especially if you are wanting God to take you to
the next level, if you are trying to get to
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a different level, not necessarily just the next level, but
a different level, maybe on the same level. You have
to know how you have to know the difference in
how to understand I'm behind this person and I'm actually
taking a lesson and here I am in the forefront
and I have people behind me. Let me be that
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person of that example to whomever you know.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
So, yeah, but how that can always be construed with
a form of jealousy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (53:45):
Like it's close to related, but it's not that.
Speaker 6 (53:48):
Or you willing to be in a position where you
want to learn, or you willn't have been in a
position where you want to be envious?
Speaker 4 (53:55):
Oh envy is you know? No, definitely, I'm always open
to learning. Okay, that's how you become better, I agree,
That's how you become an expert in what it is
that you need to do. You have to ask questions.
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You have to be willing to stop and say, hey,
I saw you did this. Can you explain what you
did here? You should not be afraid to learn or
ask questions or be in a position where it's like
I don't understand. Can you help me?
Speaker 5 (54:37):
You have to.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
You have to. You have to be willing to learn.
Speaker 6 (54:45):
You spoke in the beginning of the interview about your
two grand mothers. Tell me something about both of them,
because we want to shout them out right, although they
are right, but we want to tell me the biggest
lesson or or something these grandmothers said to you.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
That stick to you today.
Speaker 4 (55:07):
So my grandma glad me Gladly. Yeah, that's my maiden name,
my father's mother. I just she didn't really give me
like a quote to live by, but she was all
about quality time. She taught me that spending time with
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your loved ones, just taking advantage of being present, it's
so important. And my grandmahood hood. Yeah, my mom's mom.
She taught me how to be honest. She didn't hold back.
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She was an opera singer. Also, she didn't take life
too seriously. She was always laughing. I I can still
hear her laughing now, Like they both taught me to
just the biggest parts of me being honest and being
funny or being you know, just candid and open and vulnerable.
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They taught me those lessons and I hold on to
that because I realized, you can like me or not
like me. I am who what you see is almost
exactly what you're gonna get sometimes, and that's that's okay,
that's okay. And my you know, I appreciate them for
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those lessons. Really, I really as you should.
Speaker 6 (56:41):
As you should, I'm gonna deliver these two poems, okay, okay,
show me State jay L Deaconess, leader in the community,
shine Black, Queen shine Bright.
Speaker 5 (57:04):
Yes, show me stay j L Deaconess, leader in the community,
shine Black, Queen, shine Bright.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
And the last one says, do it for the Graham. Nah,
She's authentic, blessed leader, poet wife. Yes, do it for
the gram Nah Nah She's authentic, blessed leader, poet wife.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 5 (57:42):
So where can we find you on the platform of life?
Speaker 4 (57:48):
Oh man? So you can get a lot more personal
with me on Facebook? That is j A I lot
with two t's, as in Tom Gotta say that actually
like lock lop no lot so j lot on Facebook,
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miss his lot on Instagram, miss his lot so m
I z z h I z l o t t
uh huh.
Speaker 5 (58:26):
And then.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
And then on TikTok is where I do a lot
of videos just encouragement me being goofy. You see my
face a little bit more. TikTok is h I j
k lot, but it is h I j A I
k l O t T as in like the alphabet.
So yep, that's where you can find me. I'm on
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every all the platforms equally. If you want to reach
out for prayer or anything, my inbox, especially on Facebook
is open reach out. We can pray together. I'll send
you a voice message or I'll call you however you
want to do that.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
Do you have any upcoming projects or shows or anything.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
No, and not at this time, okay, because I took
a break from my own platform to support Pierre and
his He has been a really busy this summer. But
expect new things next year. I promise I will have
new poems, I will have new chapters. I will have
performances and experiences for you under my belt that I
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will get out to you. As soon as possible.
Speaker 6 (59:37):
Well, young lady and young man, you guys bless me
so much as being a guest on this show.
Speaker 5 (59:44):
Are there any more thoughts, any more words.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
You guys want to say in this.
Speaker 5 (59:48):
Lovely month of September?
Speaker 4 (59:51):
I actually want to Is it okay if I end
in prayer? Yeah, all right, let's let's do that. Let's
do that, okay. So Heaven, Father, we come to you
this evening, on this high cool hour. God, just thankful
to you for this platform, for ms V Queen, for
cashus the poet, for my husband Pierre, Lord, and just
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for allowing us to be on a platform where we
can give you honor, glory and praise God. Father. I
pray that, as we have ended this podcast and ended
this time together, Lord, that we are all able to
go home into our places safely, Lord, unharmed, no hindrances,
no danger. God, the Lord you would keep us in
that time and in this hour, Lord, I pray for rest.
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I pray for the rest of this month to be
prosperous and to be Lord truly what you intend for
it to be. In Jesus Mighty name, Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen.
Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Oh man, where is our oultro music nah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Seeming on.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
My fight.
Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
It's time to think the twins for being one of
the holsters on the high school hour.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Excuse me, I lost my applause, but you know, just.
Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Unfortunately this be the last I kula or mened. But
I'm not saying this is the last show. Don't never
give up on this uh MO pros moving on and
uh again. I want to thank the queen, uh twist
the poet for.
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Being with me to put this steam together.
Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
But more than more, more than likely we're gonna be
doing this again, probably just somewhere else, you know, So
thank you again for coming at y'all. This has been
the high cool how I am cast Mo queen, and
thank you all so much for tuning in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Thank I'll for with the guests.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Think your husband, y'all be good.
Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
We're out of here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I clean.
Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
I didn't know because I want to do is shame
on up with you time yeah and all me and
shaming aenough with you and knowing your digital on my side.