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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Try to kiddle your job.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Tell him Hayter's kid on your job. Make motivation, can.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Kill your job, telling them Hayters kill your job.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Make a motivation. Hey, just t to ghiddle your job.
Tell him Hayter's gill on your job. Make m this motivation.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Sucking nigga, get on your job, your hat and killing
your job.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Nigga, you can look here in my eye.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
See I'm ready for whatever anything. Don't kill me, make
me better. I ain't dead, nigga. You can take the
fame in each other in the game.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
In the killer steal a gold kill.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Taking bread of bottle moor, but it ain't speared up.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
A god heart over and do biller, I'm a king.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
See hanging with him cold killers, hanging up a bag
down or bring.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No nigga, I ain't saying down.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You can't here standing the gold broller even up a
motor loon i thing and the poor nigga telling chop
tipping them getting no wheeler by down what the soul
of a six to separating them takes care of lize
from the waist down from.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
The real stand dump guys of a sound. You can't
even look me.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
In my eyes what's your taste down?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm out of chill, nigga, what you.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Gotta stay down?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Making shis playing.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Second held back?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Then brother Jo.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
When it's a couple of weeks, Pridhu conversation point a meeting,
appreciate man, appreciate.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You allan servain man. Not much. I'm excited about Wednesday.
I got a new PC coming, so m yeah, I'm
pretty excited about that. But trys when you're talking about
on the phone.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, so got it.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, I got I got that coming, So I'm excited
about that. But other than now, I'm just tired. I've
been I'm gonna go a lot of this last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So yeah, yeah, I went to Uh went to Mexico.
Rocked out out there, dope. It was old, it was
a it was a crazy experience. I just wanted to
go on the trip with trip now. Yeah, uh least
had a show out there. Oh okay, So that's why
(02:51):
I said I'm trying to find a camera man take
a week. I got, I got footage now. But it's
like that, a foolige like that. I had to give
you somebody the right way, or I always to have
what I'm going to followed me. You know what I'm saying.
But it was fame and that's good. Be lit.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So I ain't even know you.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I knew you was doing that tour, but I didn't
know if you were still like doing stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
It's like, well, God, will of my type bredy great change,
it's all say everyday.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, it's all I say. Man, I'm going on you know,
so I'm just praying, keep my fingers crossed. But yeah,
it was dope. Man likes goes lit. It was real litter, right.
It was differ different than what I expected. Okay, get
way different than what I expected.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But uh yeah it was cool, real cool.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's what's up? How long you usually? What you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Two days?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Different when the sushi I work in Colorado?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Oh okay, okay, alright, I didn't even realize you that good?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That that's us up? Yeah I don't so, yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
That was my.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Last How about you?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Is that is a translucent it's a translucent. Okay, it's
just shiny. It looked from my anglewood looked like a
see through Okay, I see, I can't down. I was like, man,
where did you get that from? It was it was
looking clear red from my ableway. It's just like shine
(04:26):
all right, all right, translucent.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
O my god, frother girl. How about you, maham?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Is your weekness?
Speaker 8 (04:36):
It was good man, third week of summer school. Just
run into the last week the home stretch.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Still seeing clients.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So everything's good. Cool cool.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So we're gonna we're gonna tat straight into the show
the day man. Our topic for the dating yeah, man,
appreciates your respect.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Respect.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Our topic for day is going to be why men
need other men? And when I presented this, when I
first resented this to some you will like, which are
you talking about this? I said, it was like what pause?
Speaker 9 (05:13):
Pause right right right, hold on, I get to that
brigetto that right into that because and then my thing
thing but that was this, right, I said, you can't
be that immature, bro, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
What I'm saying. I said, Second of all, don't pause.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I hate with.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Now we may do it to these other joking, but
in a series like don't pause me, because for one,
what am I saying it comes.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Off as game or what is on your mind about
what I'm saying? That is you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
So then my thing is men understand men, men conversation
with men. So if we don't have that type of conversation,
why is weaving?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You know what I'm saying? So I had to get that. Yeah,
you know niggas man. I don't know the last you
got black people? When you got niggas man. Listen, the
last person that paused me. We was on the game
and he paused, and he was live. He was actually
streaming his game while I was playing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They can hear me, and I to look.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
He wanted to quit within two minutes because everything he
was saying was pauseworthy. And it's funny that you know,
like you pausing me, but you're not realizing the ship
that you're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Right me, I don't have the time and energy for it.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
But yeah, right right, yeah, so yeah, why do they
need other men? The danger of isolation? Real friendship versus
surface levels talking and how to build a circle that
holds you with him, So we get jump off to
the person.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Really danger of isolation. Yeah, well, you know, like most
men don't talk.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
We talked about it, kind of talked about that, you know,
or and that's the ongoing thing with for Real from
episode one of our six is like just men don't
really talk.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
A lot of times they hold in, bothered in, was
talk to, bottled in and things like that. So I
have buddies who.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I've done for years, and I try to get into
a conversation with them or you know, just try to
have a real conversation with them.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
We're on the phone and oh man, somebody calling me.
What we call you back?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I don't ever know.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Isa doesn't necessarily have to beat you's not talking about it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes and no, I mean when you sent me the topic.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
When I talk about isolation, you can be popular and
be isolating.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Because there's no depth.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
For me.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
Isolation is when you don't have any relationships with any
depth to there's no meaningful kind of your station. There's
no meaningful exchange, there's no growth, versional pushing, like the
same goals, Iron sharpens iron. Well, you're not sure that
he's y'all walking around bloody and and you're not able
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to do nothing. So being able to find that connection,
like you said, it's not tall.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's not courage.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
If anything. You get to like sit and all of that,
and they go home and it's like what and again,
work with your kids. I see it and it's like
nobody gets something you're setting yourself.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Up with here, and then that's kind of the thing,
is like I've been knowing this guy for thirty years
and we try to get to those points of having
a conversation that may be a little bit deeper, getting
into you know, family issues or whatever. Let me get off,
you know, I gotta talk back because it's like we
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don't want to. I don't want to really talk about that.
So I don't know if that's like his way of isolation,
but I think it's it's just dangerous because you know,
you just sit with your thoughts when you're isolated.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
For me, I don't really got no dudes that I
can talk to you like that because they don't run
from me. Not that I'm not willing to it that
they're not, you know what I mean. So I just
think the main danger of isolation is your thoughts you alive,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I can see that it's never been that bad.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's never happened that way. For me, my danger of
isolation is I tend to do.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
And get old right, So I mean isolate myself or
my isolation is different.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
He just comes from I don't know. I think you
may come from like ass trauma, cause I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I don't trust shit, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Because everybody that I held close to me perfect right right?
You know what I'm saying from that from my right
hand man who set.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Me over the beds and I went to the fizz
and that like it started there, if not now, it
didn't start getting started with me with my mother and father, right,
more so my father than my mother. My mother was
supposed to have it who still was there? So it
started with my dad, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
But I blamed my mom following my mind right right,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I can recognize
certain things, but.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I just don't knowing how to get to him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And can get over it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Or when to start with that? What it looked like?
Speaker 8 (10:52):
You know what I mean now?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Do you? Is that in isolation you don't know how
to get over because see, for me, when I was
really going through it mentally, isolation helped me.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
But I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna
tell you what's weird, what's messed up?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And and I recognized this too like.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I'm cool with isolation because I've been six and a
half in the FIDS, right, but my last eighteen months
I was in start of type so to my release
right because I split this due head over the MAPO
head and you s talk about that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So I was in isolation twenty three to one.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
But eighteen months I became good with being by myself
and being cool with that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I was fine.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I have own conversations, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some people would say that's crazy me.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I feel like them, That's what I'm saying, like isolation,
you know, And I've never been in that type of
situation with me. But I know when I my last
job that I was working with or working at a
lot of times I worked in the class and manufacturing
coy so a.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Lot of times I'll just be working on this machine.
But I was really fucking good at it, so they
could leave me alone and I could just do my
job for eight dollars.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
But me bro it was I'm locked in the cell
twenty years. They bring when it's time for my hour wreck,
they bring the cell. They bring the shower to my self.
Yeah yeah, and then they let me take my shower.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Then I come out and then I'm in a cage
where I can even work out.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Do whatever.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
You know what I'm saying, forever, whatever remainder of the
time I got left for the hours.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Use the phone, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
But I had so many write ups for fights because
because I'm gonna write this out, you know what I'm saying,
my first big I'm gonna write this out, so we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's a bunch. It's shit going on, right, you know
what I'm saying. So on my jack my prison records,
because I had to myself telling myself, you know what
I'm saying, but I couldn't be around about it. So
imagine for eighteen months it's just you in this cage.
(13:13):
You know what I'm saying. Like I've seen people go crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I was gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's like they can go either way, like you might
look an hour.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm saying. My man life.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
He was back there for like two years. Two years
he was back there and.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
He had a chance to come out. When he come out,
he attack him, go and keep him in there, and
they started giving him this vacation. Wasn't Thorsen and I
don't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Then he was different. He was totally different.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
So when he came out from back there from his
shoe which is the Superman security house, he came from
back there, it came out to the Countpound with everybody else.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
He was he was, he was batshit crazy. Yeah, he
wasn't the same dude. He knew who we were.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
But it didn't take not the family to cook. And
when they call medication, I don't know what it was
they was giving him. He could not wait to run
to the.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Front of that day mine give me that r was
in his cup was giving him. I mean, it was weird,
but Isola, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (14:30):
And for some people that's in the state. I mean,
I remember during COVID, I'm not home by myself.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You're doing everything on the computer, so there is no interaction, right,
so you quickly figure out do I really like me?
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Because when you went there, like I said, in my case,
I'm by myself. But I can see how you're that
forced a lot of people to really take a horror look,
contri spect inside and well, if I can be chilled
by myself, why got out of y'all are.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Now again?
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Tell you develop those relationships culture that those relationships, because
it takes time to get to that depth. If you
think about, like, it's not like walking in the ocean.
You don't just drop off you and gradually raid yourself down.
And so as you get deeper and deeper with folks,
you find okay, as far as you can go, you
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don't get to folk feet.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And that's cool. I keep you with both feet.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
But as I find those people that I can go
into the dark.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Water here where you're down there and you really you're.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Talking about things that are really impactful. We're trying to
figure out who we are, and we're challenging each other.
Those are the people that you grab onto, go and onto.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And then like I said, you start building.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
Your community and it kind of orgat if we happened.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Gotcha, Yeah, yeah, But I got a problem with even
let allow what you to do. I've gotten better with.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Building these relationships and allowing people, you know what I'm saying,
even get to know right, you know what I mean,
because I'm not I think I'm the coolest, due to
get a wrong with right I think I am? Do
(16:39):
you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Like I'm easy to talk to I'm empathetic. I'm sympathetic.
I can put my I can look at things from a.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Lot of standpoint. Now, yeah, but when you come to
other people naw with you, I'll let you owing so
much so far, and then I might feed.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
You certain stuff to make you think, certain things to
let you you know what I'm saying, because I'm just
not greatful if you cool, but if I you know
what I'm saying, I felt people out.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Before you know what I'm saying. I get a dude,
ja you know any good people? I could probably deep
my address.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Seriously because for five years I lived seven minutes from
my sister.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
She had not a clue where I stayed. Tell me, brother,
I did it?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Because the people that are always ever closest till we
always hurt me, right, And it was always the people
I said I loved somebody, Joe Schmoe. I expect that, right, right,
a little team of respect, you know what I'm saying.
There's nothing so I expect you to be in backhanded.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I'm gonna deal with you recording right. It's always the
ones that you hold close you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Be like.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
What I'm saying I'm back leap, so you know what
I'm saying, and then you look back at you, your cousin, one.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Of your sisters, or your right hand me and holding
the knife.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Damn, that's just.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Play you wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Most of the time, that's who would be.
Speaker 10 (18:31):
Yeah, access nuts you up to That's and that's part
just why I call I started closing off that act
because I be damned, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I just closed it off.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I recently had somebody ask.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Me what I do.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Do I ever feel like.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Fear of someone getting to drop on me because I
you don't have to sometimes people my address.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I mean, there's thirty nine people that know where I
live that they know where.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I lived before because of Live and the Little Room
episodes and everything like that. But most of the people
that I even allow to have that type of access
to me now are business.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Associates because.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I really don't have any interest in like personal relationships
anymore in my life. All my relationships, I just have
interest in business relationships because with.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That, you know what you want, and I know what
I want.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I do have to still be cautious of the secret agendas.
But at the end of the day. In business, we
talk to numbers, we talk the money, and that's you know,
so I know what it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I know what you expect.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I know what I expect.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But like I personal relationships, I feel like you you know,
everybody who I allowed, you know, they put the knife
in my back.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Are I can't talk to.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Them like you know, like I said, like thirty year old,
I've got a thirty year partner. I can't talk to
him about nothing, or anybody cousins that I you know,
they're gonna run from these conversations. You know what I'm
saying already turn into something that's funny and then we
get away.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
From the conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
So for me, I just as far as accountability, people
like people who I look to hold me accountable, all
those people within the last few years have come.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
From business situations. I don't feel like nobody ever held
me accountable in my.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Life, and that's the reason why I am where I
am instead of where I could have been. Yeah, but
also the people that I'm saying this about, they didn't
know how to help himself kind because you know, like
my parents was young parents, as a lot of us was,
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and they tried to do the best. My mom wasn't
no drugs or anything that my dad wasn't penottentional. My
mom worked too, and three jobs. And again, like we
talked about this previous, a workaholic and a drug addict
or alcoholic is damn there the same shit because you
just you know, for me, as I've grown, it's like, okay, you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Worked and worked and worked. He was always working for
us to have the place, roof, overhead and things.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But she wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And it's no better than you being an alcoholic or
drug addict.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And just not being there.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Regardless if you worked. It is still you know, right,
So like isolation, I was the only child until I
was ten, so I was.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Always kind of isolated, you know when kids would come
over my toys and shit as all limits like leave
my ship alone because y'all don't know how to take
care of nothing, bro, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And so.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Isolation was never like like you know, you say, I'm
having these conversations with myself and things like that, the
bobs having those two just not realizing it because I'm
playing with toys and having conversations through these things as
kids do a lot you know, you sit back and
watch them, and I'm quite sure you recognize this dealing
with children. You sit back and watch them, like damn,
they talking about their mama beating their daddy, or they
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beating their mama, asks through these toys or drawing to
whatever it may be.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's a lot of you know, I've seen yeah that bro,
I've looked like I always let the kick.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Out, bro.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And door playing with the doll. So we a kitchen.
It's like four of those in the kitchen. Else and
I hear this little girls see.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Your ball head, and she got them, she got the
dog brough and like.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
She's snatching it.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
She seen it, she's seen it, what she experienced herself.
She ain't get that from this out the blue. Yeah,
they ain't just popping to her, but they laughing like
she's cute. And I'm like, Yo, that ain't no, that
ain't cool. That's not funny, you know what I mean.
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So I'm like, I left, Yeah, I left the career.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I'm like, na, y'all, I.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Swear I walked up because I'm looking at this looking
like she said it with like such connection, like shit, your.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Boy head as you like it wasn't it Like, wasn't
no first time thing, laughing like, Y don't think that,
you know what I'm saying, because and I got a
real thing with that because one of my sons broke
suffer from ship mates.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So that type of that type of ship right there. Yeah,
it really bothers me become children. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I get upset. It takes me back and thinking about
what after my son with faiths right and right, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So it takes me somewhere totally different. So when I
see people act like that towards kids, it's my fault.
So I just removed myself in situition, you know what
I'm saying, because people don't understand, they don't know what
I was doing with my story is so you don't
even know why I'm upset that you Yeah, yeah, And
I don't even want to say it explain to you
why said what you just that's gonna make me upset, right,
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you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You trying to convince me that I shouldn't be upset
about donna make me even more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So now I'm gonna got my hands around your head
right back. Now. I'm driven, and I'm I'm not right,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, all right, cool,
But yeah, man, you know, yeah that that just that
takes you to the whole. So that's something that's very
very You know a lot of people think that ship
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is okay.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
And then you know.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Then when you say it's not okay, you know you're
gonna become a bove right every time.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So real friendship versus surface level talking, what is.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Id? Come on again, it doesn't happen over night.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I've been fortunate, and.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I really when I think about my life.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And growing up, I was blessed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It was my mother and mine.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
My mother was older, and with my that father passed,
we had to make some adjustice and I just happened
to end up in the neighborhood where some people looked
out for me and it was like, hey, you don't
seem like the.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Rest of the kids.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So it's your story.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
What's over with you?
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Why you don't catch the bus like everybody else going school?
Wait while you got on the slacks and dress, you
wait for you home and do that Curiosity and trying
to figure out why my life looks so different.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Started to open up.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Friendships developed, and then, like I said, over time, we've
always been at feels. And like I said, even amongst
I count maybe less than teen people that I'm really
close to, and even they make ten, they don't all
ten don't know the.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Entire story, but between the ten of them they jiggy
and dark.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Because again they and then when I figured the other thing,
may kind of popped off and kind of made me
really feel like I was blessless. Every time I got
them together, my friend fink Situation A and my friend
for Situation B could sit down chalk and I was like, hey, man,
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that's so I assume that's how it's supposed to happen
until I started going. When I went away to college
and got out of the world, and I said, wait,
I see everybody started I saw a fairy and.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So again being able to see it that see.
Speaker 12 (27:37):
That concrete contrast, I was like, oh, well, okay, and
again time and I and time and look, because like
I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Why my mom and people us who.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Because I have no clok.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Ever asked it really cares.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
But out of that may three friends that I have
I've had since I was like the Mexico Great down
for whatever friend I got, I got when I graduated
in college. And again I pledge, I'm online with fourteen
well yeah, with fourteen other guys type one to the
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He called me right now, Hey man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I got to going.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
And the thing about it is he's met my childhood
friends and they and like I said, just down the line, those.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
People, I can say consistently.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Have the same types of qualities, And again it's hard
to find, especially when you don't know what you're looking for,
which again goes back to the isolation piece when you
just trying to make friends quote unquote and you're not
really sure what friendship should even looked like, because again
it's not like somebody sits you down and say, hey,
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this is.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What its friend looks like. This is what a real
friend real a morning, This is.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
How friends value And I tell friends all the time,
you now, is that really your friend telling you to
disrupt class so y'all can't get no work done?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
He got he got seed, but you got it?
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Is that really your friend? And then like, huh, if
they don't get it, they don't see it.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I got to hold you accountable.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
I got to want you to do record for your
se because one of us rides, we all rise, because
we all conneit it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Again, Can I find that?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
And that my patience enough to find And then you
do not even know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
So that's why you said.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I was like, I have one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
One friend, my best friend. They call each other, call
each other brothers. Yeah, we've known each other, says ninety school.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Yeah, ninety two when I first letter singles moved to York.
So no, actually it was maybe even one cause I
was thirteen when.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I had my daughters.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, in ninety one.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, so I was turning fourteen. Dag on forty seven.
When I say you, me and his brother never had
a fallout, never switched over each other. I've never switched
on nobody. Something go wrong, it's because you fel like
I'm chance.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
What you did.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That's how I feel if I did.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I know how to apologize really wrong I've done to anybody,
and then some people I just don't even care to give.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
'em understanding of work with mom and you, right, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I don't take it how you wanna take you you
feel like field spread your story where you spread its company,
be with it a problem, I leave.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It at day, you know what I mean. But me
and this man like he knows when I tell you, this.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Man know everything about me, But I know everything about him.
Is be talking every day. It's what's going on his
life and relationships, his health.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You know, I don't vice.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Versa, the social security umies, emergency contact like everything happen.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Look, this is where you go for this. This is
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And he's the only.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Person in my life that I can say besides my
you know, my my woman outside of her, he's the
only person that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I got that farm like that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
not even the family, like you know my family.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Is mad then yo, Like I'm I'm realizing, like I
got a lot of family on the east side, the
rockets and the catchings. I just found out that Greg Olden,
the basketball player, I just found out that was my cousins.
While with my cousins you called the east side, I'm
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just finding out like the whole you know, bunch of
people in my family. I got a lot of a
lot of relatives and very few families share on relatives
right right, right, family. I created my own family because
of again the isolation piece, and like people next to hurt,
(32:33):
you know what's feel good with dump? Right, So that's
how we getting up creating our own meat. Anyway, That's
how I end up creating my own song with my
own family. And these people ain't even gonna share a
look at DNA blood with you know nothing, or treat
me way better than people I'll grew up in the
house with start with ship, the same mother and father,
(32:56):
DNA bloodline, et cetera, et cetera, cousins, whatever, So.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'll never get nothing but truth.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
From him.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
If I called him for advice, if I call on
he called me. Man.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
We just had a conversation today. He told me his
peace and stopped stopped working on.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Not comfortable.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
You gotta be you know what I'm staying to tell
y'all too, Like, hey, man, ain't working, man, I need
some bag or something. Man, my piece ain't working right
no more. I don't know what's going on, bro something.
But he's been through a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
He got he got in twenty ten, he got shot
fourteen times, and then two weeks after that he got
shot seven times.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
He got here to total twenty one times within a tree.
I ain't trying to laughter that he was in.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
The mass jed sleep, his wife at the time, set
him uphow. Dudes came in the mass year shot him
fourteen times in the mass year. I still got the
pictures and how the floor the bullets went through his bike,
through the floor.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
His stummach was open.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
The hole noun.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Dam. He took him to the hospital and did what
they did.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Two and a half.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
He's later, he comes home. He's in his car dropping
his mom off at church, got his on his friends
in the back seat. They was coming to kill his friend,
but because he in the car, he got he said.
All he heard them say was get him to. Now
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Mom just got out the car to.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Going to church.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
He's getting out the back seat to get in the front.
So when he gets out the back seat, they gunned
him down, and he because he dropped them off and
he's there, I'll get him too. But they let mom
go in church. Get him to and they give him
seven more times, and then he went to prison. Because
(35:02):
he's an expeller.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
He had his gun in the car.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So when the police came and the analysts came and
found a gun in the car. So serious with twenty
one bullet holes in him.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
In prison, not getting the profitable medical care supposed to
get the whole knot actually go So Yeah, I mean
and his brother a lot together, a lot. I don't
even tell my father I love him, you know what
I'm saying. But that's the type of relationship we have.
(35:33):
There's no surface level nothing. Everything with us is one
hundred percent authentic reals and Truman, this is what he is, Bro.
I need your health and vice versa. And that's the
only real, true, authentic friend.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That I know that I have.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
See, do you think you can replicate that relationship?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah? I could.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Look, I think I think I could. But see it
is I have a short patience. I have a short
time for the bullshit.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
So I'm not great. She didn't invest. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
To be honest, I don't think the relationship with that
type of longel is replicable.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You know what I'm saying. I don't think you could.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Replicate that.
Speaker 13 (36:24):
Because it's just too much time start to heal forbody. Yeah,
that's like a life, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Like we went to.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
School together, you know, I mean anybody, like, yeah, anybody
I know, my my my best homie, he got killed
a few years ago by the at F. And I
mean even with him, m hm.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
As I grew up and grew up, like as I
grew up and left the neighborhood and was a man
on my own, I realized that he was just boys,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And as I know, became a man, and I'll have
a conversation.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
With these guys that I grew up with. I realize
that you're still the boy you know what I mean
that you was back then. You still talk about the
same shit. You're trying to put the same things together.
He's got the same hair of brain ass schemes and
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
That's still my best homie or I feeding my dog.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
But it's like I grew up away from that, you
know what I'm saying. And I want to have a
deeper relationship with people. And it's crazy because I have
so many relationships.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I think about this.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I've been thinking about this a lot this week, Like
I've got I'm in relationships with so many people because
of what I do. You know what I'm saying, like,
there's people that call me talking about this and that.
You know, I absorbed a.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Lot even with this thing that we do. We create relationship. Yeah,
this underground music thing, it's all about his media things.
It's one of the biggest things that I talked about this.
Relationships are very, very important. So I've got a lot
of relationships, but none of them are really I don't
have the relationships y'all don't have a lot of lifelong friends.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Know how you be so connected to people and you
don't even know how you're connected the people, but you
can be connected to.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Be Yeah, And now that's something I find myself. Like, Okay,
for instance, Rocky he shitting right back then my wife
he's known this man problem. How long.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
I've known Rocky not near as long as they know
each other, but I've known them. We've always been called
to be cool. You never know, you know what I'm saying.
But it took for him to see me or her
to see me talking to.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Him and be like, you know, Rocket, like yeah, like them.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
And not even knowing the relationship that they got is
so cool. So now it doesn't make me be cool,
but it's like, damn, I gotta respect for broke, right,
you know what I'm saying, like, okay, and then when
she tells me like, hey, you know you love.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Me, so you know he's like cool. People like cool.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
So even if God dropping down the street to see him, bang,
I'm jumping out the car getting it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Right, right, just it's just what it is. Just see,
I feel like I have those type of things. But
that's like that's just you know, kind of.
Speaker 11 (39:31):
Like who I am, like.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Is just something exactly getting beat there. Yeah, when it
comes in on certain people, but it's.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Like counting his ass out, damn. And then I'm gonna
telling my song saw you get your ass?
Speaker 8 (39:52):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Man?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
That things else the dude stopping your ass out get
ship trying. I had to keep it moving. Nah, I
was glads. I thought I saw you though, Yeah, I
said there and watch the whole thing. You know, I'm
saying for some people, I'm not get a ball of me,
you know what I mean, ain't.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Let that go down.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
So if I'm brother that I don't know or whatever,
you can't woo me, wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Not today.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It's yeah, you know a lot of people in your
ass killed because of trying to help stick in their
nose and ship that they ain't had no good Yeah,
I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
And a lot of times to deal with human it
ain't got nothing to do with no real no real money.
It ain't got nothing to do with no you know
what I'm saying. Like he didn't come up and punch
your grandma and the stomach, none of that you beefing
over because I made five dollars more.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I'm gona tell that you did, or you start me
and your chick dead. So now you want to kill me.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
Or you inherited beef that ain't got nothing to do
with you from somebody older than you, or from a
neighborhood that you don't own nothing here.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Well, and we got a whole culture of that, So
I'm just saying, we got a whole culture.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
But yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I've been to a point where I wanted to do
some things, but it wasn't because of the woman.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
It's because of the mouth of the person that was
affiliated with it.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Really didn't.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I didn't have no care about it was just the
thing that person. I think it's really crazy. I want
to kill somebody ever the woman, but hey, keep in mind. Man,
No love is a crazy temporary and insanity and things
like that. But yeah, I don't have no it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I don't have no.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Friends, like like y'all got man, I don't get no
friend I think that's because like.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Like, but it's like we building a relationship, right right,
right right, So that's that's thing.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
But like I'm just saying, like looking back around on friends,
like they my cousin, why.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Considered like an older brother, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
We don't talk every day. I don't talk to him
every month. I don't talk to him very often at all,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
So I don't got those See, I think that's that's
the best normal friendship.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
It is that you have to talk all. That's yeah.
But the thing is that, like I.
Speaker 8 (42:34):
Said, I see him one time a year, but every
time we get together, it's like, but.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, but when when y'all get together, y'all are able
to have those from surface first, from surface level of
the deep dark conversations. I don't have that, see what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, we can have surface level conversation.
When I try to get it, I gotta I'm gonna
(43:04):
call you back I got it because they ain't. You know,
people don't want to do that in my world, you
know what I'm saying. And in his world, it didn't
even allow him a fuck to do that. The one
person they didn't even know when he was a fourteen.
That's thirty something, you know, thirty three year relationship.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
You know, we ain't ever thought that. That's something you've
had with any woman, you.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Know, And so.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
You closer than them than the relative brothers, sister's relatives,
you know, I don't know. And then and don't get
me wrong me saying they on top of them once
a week, once a month. Once you know that, you know,
because like I said, I got people. I know people
you know I ain't talking in the year, but we
get together and it's like a never missed the beating.
(43:57):
But it's just it never missed the beating on the
surf and stuff, you know, And that's just been real.
A lot of relationships you look back, you know, well,
these were relationships because we was, we smoked, we drank,
We was just in that neighborhood together. You had ship
(44:18):
that I didn't have. Yeah, I couldn't be in my
mama house, but I.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Could be in yours. That's what I realized. Because my
house was the middle of the block. This was the
go to house. I had DJ set up all the
gang systems. I had that.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
This was where everybody was at my crew. So but
now looking back, what was they Therefore? Because they there
was somewhere to go. I couldn't smoke in their MoMA house.
They couldn't shoot craps in their mom mouth. They couldn't
(44:59):
be Jay in spinning records, ramping, maked do all this ship.
They couldn't play the game being I could be there
because my mama wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
You know what I mean? But if all that wasn't
with those guys been my friends, you see, because oh
I had that, Oh I had no I know, because
the Mongoos.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
If you had.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, with the Pigs and the three and the Mags,
Yeah you have more friends than them. Yeah yeah, just
because of the bike. Yeah, so I get you, you know,
But if you didn't.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Have those things, then what you be? I guess a
lot of guys, you know, I look back, they was
very popular in high school.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Wow, because they if they.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Looked much better?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Were they star athletes? No, it was on the team,
but they wasn't star athletes. Hey, Mom and Dad kept
you good and new shoes had the polo always had there.
They had a start, you know.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
We had heavy stars would increase back then. The Eastland
boots that was high back in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
You remember, you remember the button up, they got the
haircut every week. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
They popular, right be jan sport book, bad teas, white teas, teachers, goodies.
First of all, I don't even care about none of
that ship. I'm a wou tang fan tenements, don't. I've
come to school every day just in case it's gonna
be a fight, right right, selling drugs.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Nobody knew how he did it, that ship.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Because I was isolated to myself. I knew everybody in school.
You look, you look back, Faith, but you said, oh man, everybody,
this man. I wasn't popular back in high school.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Y'all just knew who the fuck I was.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
I had, right, you know, Yeah, I gotta see that picture. Yeah,
it was like all the time I missed that.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Tag.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
I missed it a picture meet with an afro and
I'm at my details, at my tables, at my turntables.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
But yeah, like I know, there was a once upon
a time, I gotta see it. There's always time. But
you know, like I said just back then, I wouldn't
you know, Yeah, I can get.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
It though the ship.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, it makes sense sense. So how do we.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
Build a circle that holds your account I mean that's
kind of easy, right, just get rid of all the
yes man? But how do you determine the yes man from?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
For me? Like, it's just my my accountability people that
I have because even.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
Though I say I don't really have friends like that,
I do have people that hope met accountable.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
But all these people are professional people, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
And it's like four five people that when certain things
happen and people try to play me like I'm crazy,
that I reach out to and I say, hey, these
are the facts.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (48:33):
And they say nah, usually, nah, you're not crazy, Like
one hundred percent of the time is not crazy. They're
you know, And it's not that they are just yes men,
because I don't want no yes men around me, Like
these are people that I don't they don't have no
reason to be yes men. These are professional people that
(48:54):
I know. I want them to tell me I'm fucking
up because most of these people have been doing the
things that I am doing for twenty plus years. I've
just been doing them for the last five if that.
And when I got people that's been there, you know,
(49:15):
I got Grammy nominator producers and shit like that. That's
telling me, now what you're saying is correct. That's the
people that I look forward to hold me accountable because
the regular people that I know, and I don't mean
to say this, but the people that I know are
just regular stiffs. They work a job, if they pay
(49:38):
their bills. They nine to five people.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
They don't have any fucking idea of my life or
the life that I come from, or any of that,
whether it be business or drugged.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
They don't have any idea that those types of lives
because they just nine to five work and steps. Their
idea of starting the business is, look, i'm gonna give
me a pickup truck and I'm gonna start hauling some ship.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give me some some some uh
some lawnmowers. I'm gonna start. That's their ideas.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I don't have.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I don't really all the people that I want to
hold me account of.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Board people are thinking about the craziest fucking ideas that
those people don't think it.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Ever worked with.
Speaker 6 (50:32):
I had, I honest think what you're saying. But I
had to like when you were saying, like, uh am
I tripping or what do you think about this? That
works two ways and because for me, let me let
me use my my inst is right. I have a
(50:53):
cousin right, no matter what I say.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Why I bring him hey man.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
My bucket because I think, yeah, but that ain't the
people those are yet you know that's a guest.
Speaker 6 (51:09):
Name, right, So after a while I had to realize, like,
and then it would take my lady to be like, nah,
stink that fall back killed. This is what was said.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
This is how we but this is how.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
You're looking at it, because you gotta take this that
and now that it to think about this.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (51:31):
Maybe right and I got people that, but my cousin
this niggas ready to send me off the roof.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah you know what I'm.
Speaker 6 (51:39):
Saying, like I'm ready to dive in this dude ship
because yeah, yeah, my lady like no, so man, think
about this.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
This is what he said. You heard this. You didn't
hear this. You just heard this.
Speaker 6 (51:59):
And I said, I've presented it the same way to
you know what I mean, somebody else, and he's like, yeah,
we need to handle that out here.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Well for me.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
For me, fortunately, when I have these situations, there's written
documentation or video.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Documentation, so I can present this to the people. And
I've done it wild live. I told you before I
go live, and I pull it up the Facebook post.
Now this is what they said.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
What am I taking out of context from him calling
me a bit ch ass old ass nigga worbo. But
that's just the you know, overwhelming circumstance for example. But
I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying, it's it's
there is documented. It's though, like he says, you say
a lot of times in my world with what I
(52:51):
this is something that's this person has said it, video
are posted it, so there's evidence, you know what I'm saying.
It ain't just And then there is times like I
got a person who says, well, maybe you looking at
it dis like that, or you know you can't.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Say this, you can't you know, all right, not get that.
But still, man, my lady holds me accountable. And sometimes
I hate it. I hate it because it's the way
she do it, you know what I mean, it's the
way she do it. And sometimes like I don't know
(53:30):
she I'm gonna tell you that she is smart. It's hell, bro,
I've never met anyone it's smart as she is.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
I just have it.
Speaker 8 (53:43):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (53:45):
She has a certain way just making you feel dumb.
But I don't even know what she's doing it.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
I see my christ back will be is she making?
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Is that how she's presented for?
Speaker 8 (54:00):
That's the type of ship she be doing?
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Right, that's she be doing right there, she does that,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
But she knows what she be doing.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
She know the hell she be doing. She knows what
she be doing.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Bro, tell you she do man know what she's doing.
Speaker 8 (54:27):
So it just be like.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
And then she has this thing she does but she
just be like and that be I be like, I
don't even want to talk no more.
Speaker 6 (54:40):
I don't want to say she don't you because when
she do that, that's like stupid, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (54:46):
Can I reframe that that's her time? Okay?
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Maybe I am, And because that's not the situation.
Speaker 8 (55:00):
Again, part of what helps build those relationships is you
have to have a very good understanding of who you
are and you know.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
It like I do.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Most people are walking around don't have a clue.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Who they are.
Speaker 8 (55:15):
They, who society said they are, they, who social media
do said they are? They whatever, whatever influence has pushed
them to be. That's what they're trying to evoct to.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Again.
Speaker 8 (55:32):
I think, like I said, I think I was blessed
because I was real confident.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
But who I was I knew I was a.
Speaker 8 (55:41):
Fat kid with glasses who was exceptionally fast for my size,
that could also play every sport under the sun. And
I had to look smart.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
So again, where you gonna catch first? Like everybody else,
I go to different school.
Speaker 8 (55:56):
Yeah, while you got on dress pants?
Speaker 9 (55:58):
And why you got on?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Where you going?
Speaker 4 (56:01):
You got church today?
Speaker 8 (56:02):
No, I'm going to school well, And again didn't bother
me walking in and out the neighborhood like that?
Speaker 4 (56:10):
Yep. And and you had you had a fortunate experience,
right because man, I just you know, could be.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Your recipe for disaster, depending.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
On you know what, neighborhood or whatever.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
They don't make it.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
Listen, some nebhood, MA ain't even listening to. They ain't
even ask me why I got I don't know fucking slash.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
You're different.
Speaker 8 (56:33):
You can you ask me.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Until you don't come out of the house with slacks
on my wall. That's just you. You was very fortunate.
My mother likes you, very fortunate.
Speaker 8 (56:43):
And I think I'm here one of my at least
five six years older than him, because I'm fifty four.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, I'm forty six.
Speaker 8 (56:51):
Yeah, So society had.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Changed it in a lot of drastically.
Speaker 8 (56:55):
Oh, it was a huge change, because again, come to know,
it was y'all leave him alone.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
He ain't like the rest of us.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
He did not any pay And you still had those guys.
I will say, you still had those.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
Guys when when in.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
My time, my time, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Had those guys. But I feel like for me.
Speaker 4 (57:23):
That I was already gone, like I already had to
put myself in a certain type.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Of situation or I might not even.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Be kidding, you know, because I just I don't know
what it was that changed so drastically, but a lot
of change. I was born in seventy Yeah, you was actually,
like I say, I'm an eighties back because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
Experience the seventies. I yeah, yeah, And people be arguing
you you're a seventies no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
I cannot.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
I didn't experience ship from the seventies.
Speaker 4 (58:01):
Man, he man, that's what I experienced, you know, Yeah,
you know, you know what I'm saying. Like I said,
like his age group, they kind of was like, y'all
got it, y'all kind of was in a real place
(58:21):
when it came to this game band and drug dealing ship.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
You know. For our age group, it was like we
was fighting in the midst of this ship.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah yeah, and it wasn't and we was kids, so
it wasn't no escaping that ship in the way, you
know what I mean. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
So is a O fours time for us to get
up out there that the other show come on. But
that is why men need men. Men need more men.
Speaker 6 (58:52):
While we're talking about accountability, more men need the whole
men accountable.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, period, point right, that's what I think. You know,
I feel like it's just too many times where men
don't feel that they can.
Speaker 4 (59:09):
Be comfortable holding each other men accountable, and most of
the time it's women hold it's accountable.
Speaker 5 (59:15):
And when a woman.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
Holds accountable, we feel a certain type of way because
in the hierarchy of things, the man is supposed to
be oh right, the woman, you know, and it makes
us feel the type of way right, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
But I feel like men from there there's not enough
men in young men's.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
Lives holding them accountable, especially for our generation to come
from generation that say it's a little different than his,
where they actually had ogs. We did not. Our OG's
became do heads and got killed and went to prison
and we started.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
Running shit ourselves. So it being more accountability.
Speaker 8 (59:59):
Just this reception, Like I said, can I take somebody
holding me account And again that's the self reflection piece.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Can you really look at yourself and.
Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
Say, hey, why always get mad when somebody wanted me
to do better? Why is it getting mad or frustrated
because they disappointed in a bad decision I made.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I knew it was a bad decision when I made.
Why I'm mad at them?
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Because ye?
Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
And that's like I said, that's that first step to
that accountability piece. Just can I look at myself with
that hard ends and say, you know what, you're fucking
right and I can't be mad because the people that
value me see.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Who the fucking right? And there you have it. We
have spoken. Thank you, guys, for all everybody's listening, everybody's tuning.
Speaker 10 (01:00:48):
In on your lives.
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