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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Thank you so much for RANDI. I'm often asked whether
people of science can be people of scripture as well,
and the answer is emphatically yes. In fact, the realization
that revelation is key to knowledge led medieval thinkers to
crown theology queen of the sciences. Peter Paul Rubens elegantly
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illustrated that truth in a seventeenth century painting titled The
Triumph of the Eucharist. Standing in a chariot propelled by
angelic beings, was theology walking alongside, where philosophy a wise
and grizzled veteran, and science a newcomer in the cosmic conversation.
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Of course, the point of the painting was that theology
is never absent philosophy and science, but philosophy and science
absent theology and exorably leads to the blind ditch of ignorance.
And Paul Rubens was not the only one convinced of
this truth. Leonardo da Vinci, widely considered to be the
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real founder of modern science, was deeply committed to the
biblical truth. In the beginning, God created the heavens and
the earth. Likewise, Robert Boyle, who was the father of
modern chemistry as well as the greatest physical scientist of
his or any other generation, was an able apologist for
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the genesis account of origins. Furthermore, Sir Isaac Newton, a
remarkable intellect who developed calculus, discovered the law of gravity,
and designed the first reflecting telescope, vigilantly defended the Biblical
account of creation. Louis Pasture, best known for developing the
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concept of pasteurization and demolishing the concept of spontaneous generation,
underscored the power of revelation and undermined the evident absurdities
of Darwinian evolution. And I should also mention that there
is quite literally a veritable host of stars in the
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constellation of scientific discovery that are people of science and
people of God. Francis Bacon, Blaze, Pascal Gregor Mendel, Michael Faraday,
Joseph Lister, and the list goes on and on. These
men and women were deeply committed to both scripture and
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empirical science, and as such they not only unpacked revelations
within the Book of Nature, but were likewise illumined by
the truth of biblical revelation. Don't let anybody browbeat you
into thinking that if you are a person of scripture,
you can't be a person of science, nor let anyone
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delude you into thinking that there's a false dichotomy between
faith and reason. That simply is not the case. We'll
go first to Dave. He's listening in Somerville, South Carolina
on the web.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Hi Dave, Hi Henk, Thanks for having me on. You're welcome.
I have somewhat of a strange question. I've been talking
with an atheist who in the past has been a
firestarter and contrarian, and through gentleness and respect and able
to get him into a fairly decent conversation. But he
just threw a strange question. I mean, and it's about
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his wife, who is an identical twin. His question is
if life begins a conception, then when she and her
sister split apart after conception, who gets the soul or
how much a foot part of the soul do they get?
So I just wanted your take on that. Does that
make sense?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, I understand what's being asked, but when you think
about it, it's not very logical. I mean, the basic
presupposition is, well, look, maybe each of the girls only
got half a soul, but just look at the common
sense aspect of it. Did they get half a body? No,
they both have complete bodies. That's part of the twinning process,
and therefore they both have complete souls as well. Just
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as the twinning process caused two complete bodies, not two
half bodies, so the twinning process gives way to two
complete souls, not two half souls.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Beautiful, it's brilliant. God bless you in your ministry and
you have a wonderful day.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hang.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Thank you, Dave, appreciate your call. Let's go back to
the phone lines. Talk to Jonathan. He's listening in Marylyn.
Hi Jonathan, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Thank you so much for taking my call. Love your program.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
My question actually ties in to your monologue. My question
is about your opinion. Are your thoughts on God using
scientific possibilities that exist in this reality to make the
miracles happen that have been recorded in them? So I mean,
for example, like the resurrection of Lazarus, do you think
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that there could be a scientific explanation or scientific mechanism
for his resurrection the splitting of the loaves? Could there
be a mechanism that God used or is it just
supernatural and we'll never know?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, it's supernatural, and of course you know you talk
about the resurrection. Well, you can build a cumulative case
from historical evidences for the resurrection, but you cannot prove
the resurrection through the empirical scientific method because it is
predicated on the replicatable experiment, which can't do there. So
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it's a different line of evidence that you would use. Furthermore,
you have to recognize that we are not philosophical naturalists
ed to only one view or one possibility. In other words,
everything has to be explained through purely physical processes. No,
we as Christians say we're open minded. We allow for
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both supernatural as well as natural explanations for what we
encounter in the universe. In fact, the universe itself is
a supernatural effect that requires a supernatural cause.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Well, thanks, you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Thanks for your call. Back to the phone lines. We'll
talk next to Bill and Callierville, Tennessee.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Bill, Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You're welcome.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
My question is in First Samuel, chapter twenty eight, when
King Saul has the medium call up Samuel after he
had died. Can you explain to me what happened? Was
it really Samuel? And if it was, how would God
allow that to happen?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, yes, it absolutely was Samuel. But Samuel was not
brought up by the Witch of Endor. Samuel was brought
up in spite of the Witch of Endor. And she
was absolutely shocked by what happened. Because all she could
do is effects sleight of hand and sleight of mind.
She could not conjure anybody up from the dead. Impossible.
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That can only be done by God. But God did
this as a non normative event, because here you have
the first king of this role and he is being
summarily judged for his wickedness and for a heart that
had turned away from the Lord.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Okay, h well, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You're welcome. Thank you for your call. Katie next in Redmond, Washington.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Hi, Katie, him so good to talk to you. I
have a question about the books To Heaven and Back
by Mary de Neiale. Are you familiar with it?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Vaguely yes, and in general, I have written on near
death experiences. I'm familiar with the whole phenomenon as well.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Okay, Santassic. So I was reading the book and it
struck me that I don't know a whole lot about
the origin of our souldier when it is born, so
to speak. He talks in her experience that through her
experience of dying and meeting it with angels and talking
with angels and going to heaven, that her soul was there,
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a soul over already in heaven. They already know God.
And then when we're born, we forget all that and
we are working our way to find our way back
to God. So I'm just kind of curious to know
what your thoughts are on that and what yeah there is.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
See, this is the problem with subjective experiences. Subjective experiences
are notoriously unreliable. That's why we always test a subjective
experience in light of some final court of arbitration, which
in a biblical worldview, of course, is scripture, and scripture
teaches us that souls do not pre exist. But what
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happens is when a woman gives birth, she gives birth
to a body soul unity. That's what it means to
be human. At death, there's an unnatural rending of body
and soul, so you're absent from the body, present with
the Lord if you're a believer. And then when Jesus
Christ returns a second time, whereas Hebrews puts, it appears
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a second time, then the soul returns to the body
and the body is resurrected, immortal, imperishable, and corruptible, so
you are then genuinely human again. Again, to be human
means that you are a body soul unity. But there's
no basis whatsoever for the pre existence of the soul.
The soul comes into existence when a woman gives birth,
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because that's what she's doing, she's birthing a human being,
a body soul unity. The after death experiences, in fact,
I talk about in my book After Life. Check it
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Thank you much for Randy, and let's go right back
to the phone lines. Talk to April and Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
Hi April, Hi, Hank. I have a question, Hank. I
was just recently diagnosed with a recurrence of cancer and
I am praying to the Lord about that for healing. However,
it did strike me that I'm wondering if it's unbiblical
to petition the Lord over and over for healing, or
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if I should just trust and leave it that the
Lord is working on that.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, April, if you have a real desire to be healed,
as I'm certain that you have, I think it's perfectly
legitimate to petition the Lord for healing. But I would
always suppend the world words nevertheless, not my will, but
Thy will be done. You see a snapshot in time,
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God sees the panoply of your life. In fact, in
Psalm one point thirty nine, he says that all the
days ordained for you were written in his book before
even one of them came to be. And so there's
not a single hair that's going to fall from your
head that he doesn't know about, he doesn't care about,
and Christianity ultimately doesn't give us a peaceful way to
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come to terms with the kinds of difficulties that you're
experiencing physically. It does ultimately give us the hope of resurrection.
So all of us are going to die, all of
us are going to suffer, But the fact of the
matter is we look forward to a time in which
there'll be no more death, morning, crying, or pain, for
the old order things has passed away. But I would
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definitely petition the Lord please heal me. And the reason
I would is because I have a lot of kids.
I feel my kids need me around, and so I
would definitely be praying for that. I feel like I
still have unfinished business in terms of writing and ministry
for the Lord, and therefore I would ask the Lord that.
But I'd also recognize that God knows far better than
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I do, and therefore I'd in the process realize that
prayer is not so much to get our particular needs fulfilled,
but rather to develop a relationship with the lover of
her soul, who will spend eternity with.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Yes, well, that's very helpful, hank, I thank you so
much for that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, April, may God give you peace in the midst
of this storm.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
May I pray for you. Yes, Father, thank you for
April for her very obvious trust in you. Lord. You
don't answer the why question every time, but you do
teach us to trust you in the midst of our wives.
I pray Lord that you would give April a piece
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that literally does pass all understanding. Father, I pray that
her testimony might be incredible in terms of touching people. Lord,
use even this as you have promised for your good
and glory. Not only for your good and glory, but
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for ours as well. For you have promised that all
things work together for good to those who love you
and are the called according to your purposes. Father, May
you make your will and your way evident to April.
And Lord again, we pray that you would be the
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balm of Gilead in her life. May her relationship with
you become ever dear and near as a result of
this exigency. We pray this in the precious name of
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Amen, Amen, Hank. I will continue to pray for you
in your ministry.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Oh, thank you so much, April, and we'll be thinking
about you.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Thank you so much, bless you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I want to go back to the phone lines. We'll
talk to Amy in Alitha, Kansas.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Pi Ami, Hi, Hank, I just wanted to tell you
that I'm a first time caller. I've been listening to
you for about a year now and I found you
on my long drive to work. So you've been a
blessing in my life ever since I found you, So
thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You got it.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I just have a question for you. It kind of
has two parts that it centers around euthanizing a pet,
and you know, first the first part is, you know,
my husband and I felt that the need to euthanize
our cat after diagnosed with kidney failure, and we were
given a choice by our vet that, you know, we
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could go through an expensive treatment that may or may
not help him, or we can have a muse and
I and we chose to just euthanize them and not
put them through that. And my second part is that
my sister is contemplating euthanizing her dog that is very
old and who's in a lot of pain and discomfort
and having a lot of coughing cells. So I'm kind
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of wondering if you know this falls under the tink
commandments of vou Shama murder or does that not apply
to euthanizing our pets, And I want to get your
thoughts on there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, I don't think it applies to euthanizing our pets.
But what does apply is the biblical principle that we
are to be stewards of all of the creation, and
therefore we should treat all of that which God has
placed before us with dignity and respect. And that certainly
applies to animals. But let me say something about animals suffering.
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There's a growing body of scientific evidence that indicates that
animals like dogs and cats, do experience pain, but they
do not experience the old awareness of being in pain.
So animals don't suffer pain in the same way that
human beings suffer pain. I think that's actually good news
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for animal lovers.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Well, it's just it's been something that's been bothering me
and I felt guilty about it and just wanted to
know your thoughts on that. And I'm just hoping that
I can kind of guide my sister and helping her
make a white decision with her dog.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you have this kind of
care for animals. A lot of people don't recognize that
these are a big part in God's often guard creative process,
and that they will inherit eternal life, which is to
say that just as this universe, which now groans in travail,
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will be liberated from its bondage to decay, so too
it will be that I in Paradise restored, their will
be what once was in Paradise. Paradise was populated by
trees and by animals, And therefore we should not just
suppose that there be trees in the restored universe, but
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also that there will be animals. Now, we don't know
exactly what the new heavens and the new Earth will
look like. We have to be candid about that. There's
only inference. But what we do know is that this
universe that is growning in travailed will be liberated. So
out of the womb of this earth will come a
new heaven and a new Earth where in dwells righteousness.
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And we would suppose that what Adam and Eve experienced
with animals prior to the time that sin invaded the planet,
we will re experience in a new heaven and a
new Earth wherein dwell's righteousness.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
And do you feel our pets have souls and that
we will see them again in heaven.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
They do have souls. Now we don't know whether petted
pets we will see in heaven. The Bible doesn't tell
us that, but there's nothing to preclude that possibility. And
when I say animals have souls, I think that is
demonstratably true. It wasn't until the Enlightenment that people thought otherwise.
But the soul of an animal is qualitatively different from
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the soul of a human being, and I think that's
very important to recognize. I would also point out that
some of the keenest thinkers, from C. S. Lewis to
Peter Kraft, are not only convinced that animals in general,
but that pets in particular will be restored in the resurrection.
And so if God did resurrect our pets, it would
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be in total keeping with his overwhelming grace and goodness.
I want to go back to the phone lines and
talk to Jonathan in San Francisco, California. Hi, Jonathan, good
her are you good?
Speaker 10 (23:50):
I have a question. I'm me and my fiance we're
going to get married pretty soon, and my family, we're
Pentecostal Christians. My dad as a pastor and you know
sits in church ever since I was small, and so
I grew up you know, with like like a lot,
like knowing what's good and bad, you know what's what's worldly.
But like my fiance, I guess her, she's Christian also
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our sools her family, but they're like a different I
guess her Baptist or a different dembnomination or I don't
know what, but they are, but like they they kind
of like they when we're sitting up our weddings that
they're asking my fiance like if we're gonna have dancing,
and if we're gonna have wine, and if we're gonna
have like anything to dream like beverages like beer, And
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I'm me and my my whole side of the family,
we're all against that because we know that's not the Bible.
But like what what what? Like what can I say?
Or because I did try to talk to them about that,
but then they would always respond by saying that Jesus
drank wine.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, I mean, I think that the biblical edict is
against getting drunk, it's not against drinking wine. For example,
if you look at Proverbs chapter twenty, wee see that
wine is a mocker and be or a brawler, and
whoever's led astray by them is not wise or provers
twenty three, where Solomon says, listen, my son, to be
wise and set your heart on the right path. Do
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not join those who drink too much wine or gorge
themselves on meat. And what he's doing there is he's
demonstrating that we should in fact take good care of
both the metaphysical and the physical aspects of our humanity.
And of course Paul does the same thing in the
New Testament. Be very careful then, how you live, not
as unwise, but as wise, making the most of every opportunity.
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Because the days are evil. Therefore, do not be foolish,
but understand what the Lord's will is. So don't get
drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled
with the spirit. Again, the point is don't get drunk. Paul,
of course tells Timothy to take a little wine for
his stomach, even from a medicinal perspective. So wine can
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be a blessing, but it can also be misused, leading
to drunkenness or worse. The very clear teaching a scripture
again is that we should be good stewards aboth the
physical and the metaphysical aspects of our humanity. We are
out of time for this edition of the Bible Insmen Broadcast,
So long for now.
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the words of Scripture merely human in origin? Or are
they in fact the very words of God himself. Three
years in the making and based on two decades of
research and reflection, Hank Henagraph's monumental book Has God Spoken
answers what is surely the most important question facing our world?
In Has God Spoken? Memorable proofs of the Bible's divine inspiration,
(27:32):
Hank counters the contentions of the Bible attackers and clearly
shows that belief in the Holy Scriptures is not a
guess or wishful thinking. It is the only logical conclusion
after an honest examination of overwhelming evidence ordered Has God spoken?
From the Christian Research Institute by calling eighty eight seven
thousand CRII or go online to equip dot org. Equip
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