October 16, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (10/16/25), Hank answers the following questions:
Does the fossil record point to evolution? Martin - Calgary, AB (0:51)
Have all Jews been reached with Gospel according to Matthew 15:24? Bobby - Wilmington, NC (3:48)
Why don’t Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah? Steve - Billings, MT (6:07)
I am an atheist and I was wondering why parents indoctrinate young children with religion? Brent - St. Louis, MO (8:51)
Does DNA evidence substantiate evolution? Tom - Seattle, WA (21:46)
Does the fossil record point to evolution? Martin - Calgary, AB (0:51)
Have all Jews been reached with Gospel according to Matthew 15:24? Bobby - Wilmington, NC (3:48)
Why don’t Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah? Steve - Billings, MT (6:07)
I am an atheist and I was wondering why parents indoctrinate young children with religion? Brent - St. Louis, MO (8:51)
Does DNA evidence substantiate evolution? Tom - Seattle, WA (21:46)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
From the Christian Research Institute and Charlotte, North Carolina. You're
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The following program was pre recorded and now here's Bible
answer Man host Hank Canagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thanks very much for Andy. What of you hanging on?
We'll go right to the phone Lines' first step is Martin.
He's listening in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Hyatt Martin, how are
you good? Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
My question would be what is the status of the
human fossil record as it pertains to the evolutionary paradigm.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, you know, that's one of the great truths communicated
through the Christian world view, and that is the fossil
record has actually uprooted Darwin's tree of life. We see that,
for example, in the Cambrian explosion. There simply is no
evidence whatsoever for transitional forms from one kind to another kind.
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Now there are changes within kinds, but not changes from
one kind to another kind. And the examples of transitional
forms that are vertical as opposed to horizontal hardly hold water.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Okay, yeah, because I was looking online and I was
trying to find pictures of you know, the skeletons that
they've dug up, and a lot of it's just diagrams
and artists renderings of it. Like if you look at
the skeleton they call Lucy, its skull is a little
bit different than ours, but like I wouldn't go so
far to say it's monkey.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Like.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, I really like the point you made. If you
look at Darwin's Tree of Life, it is after all
a drawing. It's an illustration. It appears in the Origin
of Species to persuade the faithful that all species are,
as Darwin put it, lineal descendants of some few beings
which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian
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System was deposited. And at the root of the tree
you have a handful of organic building blocks. At the
tips of its budding branches, you have all these modern species.
But what you really have is the tree of life
becoming an icon, and the icon then becomes the argument,
and it is the principal symbol now for evolution, and
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multitudes hold this icon as being an infallible argument. In fact,
the mere mention of it often invokes devotes of Darwinism
to bout deeply at the twin altars of common descent
and natural salid. But the tree of life is simply incorrect.
In the geological period designated Cambrian, the highest orders in
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the biological hierarchy appeared suddenly and fully formed. And no
less an authority than Richard Dawkins, who is probably the
most popular and perhaps the most famous evolutionist on the
planet today, acknowledged that it is just as though the
fossils were planted there without any evolutionary history. And that's
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precisely the case. Darwin's tree of life is not only
uprooted by the cabin explosion, but the fossil record in
general shows no evidence of the origin species by means
of common descent and natural selection. I've written about all
of this in the Creation answer Book. Back to the
full lines. We'll talk to Bobby in Wilmington, North Carolina,
listening on the web.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Hi, Bobby, Yes, Hello, I had a question about Matthew fifteen.
With these twelve Jesus said, forth, and commanders, and go
not into the way of the gentiles, into the any
city's America. And to you not, but go rather to
the laws and.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Sheep in Israel.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Matthew fifteen, verse twenty four. But he answered and said,
I am sin, but unto the lord sheep of house Israel.
And that other verse I just read was Matthew ten
and verse five and six, And match that up with
Matthew twenty eight in verse nineteen. Go you, therefore, and
teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,
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the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, yeah, I mean, this is exactly what Jesus did
he first came, and he ministered to the very people
who were called to be a light to the nations.
But remember that God chose a people to be a
light to the nations, and that people ultimately is represented
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on both sides of the cross by true Israel. True Israel,
not by genealogy or natural descent, but by spiritual descent.
And the commission has always been the same Israel, and
the Old Testament was to be a light to the nations.
True Israel in the New Testament is called to be
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a light to the nations. And therefore the great commission
given by Jesus Christ is for all of us to
not only go out and make converts, but more specifically
and importantly, to make disciples. A disciple is a learner
or a follower of Jesus Christ. And remember the admonition
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that we have in scripture that in Christ there is
no Jew or Greek, there is no slave or free,
there is no male or female. If you are in Christ,
you are Abraham Seed according to Glatians chapter three, and
heirs according to the Promise. Again, it's not a matter
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of race. It's always a matter of relationship. Back to
our phone callers. Next up is Steve. He's listening in Montana,
listening on the web. Hi Steve, Hi Eric.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
My question is how is it today that the Jewish
people still deny Jesus when there's so much information. I
don't quite understand how intelligent people that understand at least
the Old Testament can't see Jesus as being real.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well. I don't think it's a matter of whether you
can believe. It's oftentimes a matter of whether you will believe.
But remember, people are just people, and people reject Jesus
Christ for the same reasons. Whether they're jew whether they're Americans,
whether they're Dutch, whether they're French, they reject Jesus Christ
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for the same reason. And that is a reason that
Jesus Christ himself gave light, came into darkness. But men
love darkness than light because their deeds were evil. But
I think it's really important that we as Christians are
able to communicate effectively to those who are engaged in
the Jewish tradition. We can communicate that his ancestry was
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marked and his birthplace foretold, that circumstances surrounding his death
were prophesied before crucifixion was invented, that the date of
his visitation was predicted within historically narrow time perimeters, that
he would work extraordinary miracles, that he would fulfill the
law and the prophets, and that it would be too
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small for him to bring back only those of Israel,
and therefore he would be a light to the gentile,
so that salvation would go out to the ends of
the earth. And if you look at it. Only God
could have etched this magnificent portrait of the Christ in
the Old Testament, and only He could cause it to
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take on flesh and the new. Only Jesus could emerge
through the doorway of Old Testament prophecy. And we should
have the ability to communicate that clearly to those who
want answers. So often when you run into Jews who
are steeped in Judaism, they reject the Bible because they
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don't think that the prophecies regarding Jesus Christ have anything
to do with Jesus Christ at all. And this is
one of the things that I explained, particularly in the
area of typological prophecy in my book Has God Spoken.
So if you want to find an effective way to
reach Jewish people who do not think that Jesus fulfills
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the Old Testament portrait and prophecies, that book would be
a very helpful resource to you. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Brent. He's listening in Saint Louis, Missouri. Hi, Brent, Hey,
I got you doing good.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
My question is I don't know, like, what's the percentage
of people that are religious around the world, But it
seems to be a commonly accepted form of how we
got here and I'm an atheistic to clear that up
real quick, But what I was always curious about is
if creationism is correct, why is it mainly indocumented towards children,
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Because I remember when I was a kid. You know,
I liked the Steelers because my dad didn't. I wanted
Mark Martin to win because my dad wanted it to
I'm a boomer suoner all the way because my dad was.
And then I believe Pantaclaus, truth Fairy and Jesus because
my parents told me about it. And then the ever ending,
which I think is a horrible way to go about it,
is if you pray to be in the Book of Life,
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he'll spend eternity in paradise, and if you don't, you'll
be on fire for forever. Well, when you tell a
six year old, you can either say this and you're
good for forever, or you can be on fire for forever.
It's a no brainer situation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah. Well, look, the issue is does the Christian world
correspond to reality? And so I always have to start
with the issue of origins. If you're an atheist, you
have to believe that nothing creates everything, that life comes
from non life, and that the life that comes from
non life produced morals. If you're a Christian, you say
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every effect has to have a cause equal to her
greater than itself. The universe, therefore, didn't just happen. It
is designed by an intelligent designer. Furthermore, in a biblical worldview,
we believe that Jesus Christ is God because he demonstrated
that he was God through the immutable fact of the resurrection.
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We don't believe that through blind faith, like faith in
a tooth fairy or faith in Santa Claus, but rather
through faith founded on a refutable fact. I'm coming up
to a hard break, but if you want to hang on,
we want to discuss this with you further Right after
the break.
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
Thank you very much, Randy, and we'll go right back
to Brent. Brent, thank you so much for calling. By
the way, I appreciate your call and your question, and
just to go back to what we were talking about earlier,
I think there are real reasons to believe that this
universe did not just come about by chance and real
reasons to believe that it doesn't stand the test in
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an age of scientific enlightenment, to suppose that nothing creates everything.
And there are a lot of ramifications to an atheistic worldview,
because if you're just a material being, then your choices
are not free. They're fatalistically determined by brain, chemistry and genetics.
So the consequences of a materialistic worldview are very dramatic.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Okay, But more or less, what I was asking is,
I don't know. I think religion has some good points,
don't get me wrong. As far as the personal experience
I've had in my life, I've come to my own
conclusion that it's not real. As far as like the
whole Big Bang theory and stuff like that, it obviously
doesn't add up because if we had proof, then you know,
you'd see Richard Dawkins or whoever up on the news.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, but the Big Bang theory is not a Christian theory.
I mean, the Big Bang is cosmology, and it either
stands the test of scrutiny or a doesn't. And by
the way, Christians have no problem whatsoever adhering to the
Big Bang because the Big Bang presupposed is a beginning.
So that kind of cosmology, whether it's true or false,
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I mean, it has to be determined on other grounds,
but it does not in any way conflict with a
biblical worldview.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
True.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But my main point of my question is, if religion
is so logical, why not wait till children reach an
age of reason before you teach it to them, because
I've never seen them. Go pay Billy, There's either we
were created by intelligent design or we happen by natural
selection in nature. I've always seen, Hey, God created us
Jesus as your buddy. Is he don't ask to be
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in the Book of Life. You're going to be on
fire for the rest of forever.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, first of all, the Bible doesn't teach that you're
going to be on fire for the rest of your
life forever. What God does is allow you the opportunity
to have a relationship with Him or to reject that
see us. Lewis, a great thinker, said that there are
only two kinds of people in the world, those who
say to God, thy will be done, and those to
whom God in the end says thy will be done.
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In other words, if you don't want a relationship with God,
He doesn't force that relationship on you, Brent, either in
this life or in the life to come. And that's
what hell is from a biblical perspective. It is God
continuing to sustain you in existence, albeit away from His
goodness and his grace. The metaphors that the Bible uses
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are metaphors, and we should read them in that sense.
They're metaphors to communicate just how horrible it would be
to live in eternity apart from the goodness of God.
But you don't want to make metaphors walk on all fours. Otherwise,
it's hard to have a conversation of any kind. If
I'm saying it's raining cats and dogs, you know what
I mean, It's raining hard If you start to think
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I'm trying to tell you that cats and dogs are
actually falling out of the sky, we can't have a
meaningful conversation. But as far as what you're saying about
this idea of children, that's committing what we would call
the genetic fallacy to say that because many people come
to faith as children and keep that faith in to adulthood,
that that face, somehow or other, is right or wrong. No,
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you've got to determine whether it's right or wrong based
on its own merits. And that's what I'm suggesting. I'm
suggesting that you can look at the universe and say
the universe demands a intelligent designer. If you find a basketball,
you never suppose that that basketball just came into existence
by itself. The universe, obviously, is a bit more complex
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if you look at the compelling case for the resurrection
of Jesus Christ. Christians don't believe that because they just
choose to believe it, and they believe it because all
the evidence points in that direction. I mean, no less
an authority than doctor Simon Greenleaf. The real professor of
legal evidence is Harvard said that the evidence for the
resurrection is so overwhelming that it stretches to credulity to
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believe that it's not true. Logic common sense in an
age of scientific enlightenment compels us to not only allow
for natural causes as explanations for what we encountered in
this world, but for supernatural explanations as well.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I can partially agree to that, you know, the Earth
happens to be the tag distance from the Sun to
get heat in mind, but not to fry us and
as the atmosphere wasn't structured the way it is, we
would all again either fry or dehydrate.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I guess eventually one day I'll either die and figure
out I'm wrong or come around you well.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I hope you do, because the reality is, I
was in exactly your shoes until I was twenty nine
years of age, and then I spent some real significant
time looking at the evidence. And I can tell you
that the evidence for creation, the evidence for the resurrection,
the evidence for the Bible being divine as opposed to
merely human in origin, is compelling, to say the least.
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And today I can say to you as well, Brent,
that Christ is more real to me than the very
flesh upon my bones. And I hope you have that
experience as well. And by the way, I really commend
you for listening carefully to arguments. A note in the conversation.
A lot of people don't want to be confused by facts,
but you're quite different. You're listening, seeing if the reasoning
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has any validity, and then judging on its merits, and
I commend you for that.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Hey, not a problem. I'm always up for knowledge.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Thanks for calling and if we could do anything else
for you, please let us know.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Hey, before you kick me off, I'm not going to
keep you about it. I've driven through Missouri a bunch
of times going home to see my wife. I'm stationed
out at Fort Knock. I'm in the United States Army.
But a lot of radio stations that I've heard are
very angry and hateful and just like Bible thumping hardheads
who condemn anybody who don't believe the way they do.
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And I've tried to talk to them and it's oh,
they shut you down. And like I had a guy
in the radio tell me, I don't deserve to serve
this country because of the way that I believe. Like
you know, I I went to war for you, and
that's how you treat me. Right, So thank you for
being very respectful.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, thank you for your service to our country and
for your kind and generous way of conducting the conversation.
That's how conversations become meaningful. So thank you. Brent.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Hey, not a problem, have a good one, you too.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Want to go back to the phone lines and we'll
talk next to Tom. He's listening in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Hi Tom, Hey, Hey, what a great opportunity to and
so many times when I'm listening to your program to
get to pray. And that's exactly what I've been doing
for Brent, and God bless him for serving this country.
Freedom isn't free, and he is searching and that's awesome.
He's gonna find keep searching right exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I was in that position myself.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Yeah, haven't we all at one time or another. I
think nine percent of us. So listen real quickly. You're
an ambassador for CRI. So many behind you, and I
just appreciate the effort and the hard work that occurs.
The question I have is regarding DNA, which might be
another real good one for Brent brother, if you're still listening.
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I love The Privileged Planet. I got that DVD and
we just we look at that thing so many times
and just in awe of what it shows. And one
of the things with Lee Strouble in his books too.
I've read so many of his books and I love
what he gently does. He walks you through common sense.
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But have you heard whether or not? Now I don't
know the Smithsonian, I don't remember what big institutions have
the old skeletons they were so especially when Darwin and
Origin of Species and evolution was such a big deal.
They were so happy to have those thinking they were
probably human skulls. And now that DNA can discern exactly
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what they are whatever species. Do you know if any
of those major fossils like that have been tested, and
if so, you know where they line up now, especially
since they've discovered their monkey. Probably well.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think that's exactly the problem in the icon. The
ape to man icon has become the argument, and the
argument turns out to be flawed for a lot of reasons,
including the fact that the icon itself is flawed, and
many of the icons that are part of the ape
demand icon, like pithecanthropus, erectus, peaking man, piltdown man, nebraska man,
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et cetera, have been demonstrated to be absolutely false in
terms of being transitional forms between apes and human beings.
But beyond that, there are many other arguments that could
be adduced to demonstrate that there's no linkage whatsoever between
an ape or a monkey and a man, or a
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chimp and a man, and I think that evidence is very,
very compelling. The biblical principle is more correct today than
it ever has been, and that is kinds reproduce after
their own kinds the kind of transitional form that's pointed to.
And of course we believe in transitions within kinds, just
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not from one kind to another kind the kinds of
transitions that are pointed to, and I give many examples
of this in the Creation answer Book. Upon further examination,
simply do not hold any weight whatsoever you know, and
think about the incredible lead of logic it is to
suppose that scales develop into feathers, and the whole notion
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that reptiles evolve into birds, that is stretching credulity for sure,
beyond the breaking point of any thinking individual. I've written
about this again in various places, including the face that
demonstrates the farce of evolution and the Creation answer Book.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
And then, yeah, even the fossil record doesn't show any transition,
and so I was most curious whether or not CRI
has a perspectus on any of that testing that was
done against those old assumptions.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, we do. And you know, one of the books,
by the way, from the standpoint of the whole idea
of intelligent design and DNA, is a book written by
Stephen Meyer called signature in the cell DNA and the
Evidence for Intelligent Design subtitle I'd like.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
To stay on the line and maybe order those if
it If that's all right?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, absolutely, God, blessure, love you gave. Thank you so
much for your call. We're out of time for this
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Book of Revelation has become an international obsession, the result
has been rampant misreading of scripture, bad theology, and even
bad politics and foreign policy. In the Apocalypse Code, find
out what the Bible really says about the end times
and why it matters today. Hank Canagraph argues that the
key to understanding the Last Book of the Bible is
(27:25):
the other sixty five books of the Bible, not current
events or recent history. The Apocalypse Code offers sane answers
to some very controversial questions, such as what does it
mean to take the Book of Revelation literally, who are
the Antichrist and the Great Horror of Babylon? And what
is the real meaning of six hundred and sixty six.
(27:45):
Order The Apocalypse Code by Hank Cantigraph today, available in softcover,
MP three, CD or MP three download from equip dot
org or call eight eight eight seven thousand CRI
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thanks very much for Andy. What of you hanging on?
We'll go right to the phone Lines' first step is Martin.
He's listening in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Hyatt Martin, how are
you good? Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
My question would be what is the status of the
human fossil record as it pertains to the evolutionary paradigm.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, you know, that's one of the great truths communicated
through the Christian world view, and that is the fossil
record has actually uprooted Darwin's tree of life. We see that,
for example, in the Cambrian explosion. There simply is no
evidence whatsoever for transitional forms from one kind to another kind.
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Now there are changes within kinds, but not changes from
one kind to another kind. And the examples of transitional
forms that are vertical as opposed to horizontal hardly hold water.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Okay, yeah, because I was looking online and I was
trying to find pictures of you know, the skeletons that
they've dug up, and a lot of it's just diagrams
and artists renderings of it. Like if you look at
the skeleton they call Lucy, its skull is a little
bit different than ours, but like I wouldn't go so
far to say it's monkey.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Like.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, I really like the point you made. If you
look at Darwin's Tree of Life, it is after all
a drawing. It's an illustration. It appears in the Origin
of Species to persuade the faithful that all species are,
as Darwin put it, lineal descendants of some few beings
which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian
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System was deposited. And at the root of the tree
you have a handful of organic building blocks. At the
tips of its budding branches, you have all these modern species.
But what you really have is the tree of life
becoming an icon, and the icon then becomes the argument,
and it is the principal symbol now for evolution, and
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multitudes hold this icon as being an infallible argument. In fact,
the mere mention of it often invokes devotes of Darwinism
to bout deeply at the twin altars of common descent
and natural salid. But the tree of life is simply incorrect.
In the geological period designated Cambrian, the highest orders in
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the biological hierarchy appeared suddenly and fully formed. And no
less an authority than Richard Dawkins, who is probably the
most popular and perhaps the most famous evolutionist on the
planet today, acknowledged that it is just as though the
fossils were planted there without any evolutionary history. And that's
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precisely the case. Darwin's tree of life is not only
uprooted by the cabin explosion, but the fossil record in
general shows no evidence of the origin species by means
of common descent and natural selection. I've written about all
of this in the Creation answer Book. Back to the
full lines. We'll talk to Bobby in Wilmington, North Carolina,
listening on the web.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Hi, Bobby, Yes, Hello, I had a question about Matthew fifteen.
With these twelve Jesus said, forth, and commanders, and go
not into the way of the gentiles, into the any
city's America. And to you not, but go rather to
the laws and.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Sheep in Israel.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Matthew fifteen, verse twenty four. But he answered and said,
I am sin, but unto the lord sheep of house Israel.
And that other verse I just read was Matthew ten
and verse five and six, And match that up with
Matthew twenty eight in verse nineteen. Go you, therefore, and
teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,
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the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, yeah, I mean, this is exactly what Jesus did
he first came, and he ministered to the very people
who were called to be a light to the nations.
But remember that God chose a people to be a
light to the nations, and that people ultimately is represented
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on both sides of the cross by true Israel. True Israel,
not by genealogy or natural descent, but by spiritual descent.
And the commission has always been the same Israel, and
the Old Testament was to be a light to the nations.
True Israel in the New Testament is called to be
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a light to the nations. And therefore the great commission
given by Jesus Christ is for all of us to
not only go out and make converts, but more specifically
and importantly, to make disciples. A disciple is a learner
or a follower of Jesus Christ. And remember the admonition
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that we have in scripture that in Christ there is
no Jew or Greek, there is no slave or free,
there is no male or female. If you are in Christ,
you are Abraham Seed according to Glatians chapter three, and
heirs according to the Promise. Again, it's not a matter
(06:02):
of race. It's always a matter of relationship. Back to
our phone callers. Next up is Steve. He's listening in Montana,
listening on the web. Hi Steve, Hi Eric.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
My question is how is it today that the Jewish
people still deny Jesus when there's so much information. I
don't quite understand how intelligent people that understand at least
the Old Testament can't see Jesus as being real.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well. I don't think it's a matter of whether you
can believe. It's oftentimes a matter of whether you will believe.
But remember, people are just people, and people reject Jesus
Christ for the same reasons. Whether they're jew whether they're Americans,
whether they're Dutch, whether they're French, they reject Jesus Christ
(06:53):
for the same reason. And that is a reason that
Jesus Christ himself gave light, came into darkness. But men
love darkness than light because their deeds were evil. But
I think it's really important that we as Christians are
able to communicate effectively to those who are engaged in
the Jewish tradition. We can communicate that his ancestry was
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marked and his birthplace foretold, that circumstances surrounding his death
were prophesied before crucifixion was invented, that the date of
his visitation was predicted within historically narrow time perimeters, that
he would work extraordinary miracles, that he would fulfill the
law and the prophets, and that it would be too
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small for him to bring back only those of Israel,
and therefore he would be a light to the gentile,
so that salvation would go out to the ends of
the earth. And if you look at it. Only God
could have etched this magnificent portrait of the Christ in
the Old Testament, and only He could cause it to
(07:58):
take on flesh and the new. Only Jesus could emerge
through the doorway of Old Testament prophecy. And we should
have the ability to communicate that clearly to those who
want answers. So often when you run into Jews who
are steeped in Judaism, they reject the Bible because they
(08:22):
don't think that the prophecies regarding Jesus Christ have anything
to do with Jesus Christ at all. And this is
one of the things that I explained, particularly in the
area of typological prophecy in my book Has God Spoken.
So if you want to find an effective way to
reach Jewish people who do not think that Jesus fulfills
(08:43):
the Old Testament portrait and prophecies, that book would be
a very helpful resource to you. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Brent. He's listening in Saint Louis, Missouri. Hi, Brent, Hey,
I got you doing good.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
My question is I don't know, like, what's the percentage
of people that are religious around the world, But it
seems to be a commonly accepted form of how we
got here and I'm an atheistic to clear that up
real quick, But what I was always curious about is
if creationism is correct, why is it mainly indocumented towards children,
(09:19):
Because I remember when I was a kid. You know,
I liked the Steelers because my dad didn't. I wanted
Mark Martin to win because my dad wanted it to
I'm a boomer suoner all the way because my dad was.
And then I believe Pantaclaus, truth Fairy and Jesus because
my parents told me about it. And then the ever ending,
which I think is a horrible way to go about it,
is if you pray to be in the Book of Life,
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he'll spend eternity in paradise, and if you don't, you'll
be on fire for forever. Well, when you tell a
six year old, you can either say this and you're
good for forever, or you can be on fire for forever.
It's a no brainer situation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah. Well, look, the issue is does the Christian world
correspond to reality? And so I always have to start
with the issue of origins. If you're an atheist, you
have to believe that nothing creates everything, that life comes
from non life, and that the life that comes from
non life produced morals. If you're a Christian, you say
(10:16):
every effect has to have a cause equal to her
greater than itself. The universe, therefore, didn't just happen. It
is designed by an intelligent designer. Furthermore, in a biblical worldview,
we believe that Jesus Christ is God because he demonstrated
that he was God through the immutable fact of the resurrection.
(10:37):
We don't believe that through blind faith, like faith in
a tooth fairy or faith in Santa Claus, but rather
through faith founded on a refutable fact. I'm coming up
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we want to discuss this with you further Right after
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Broadcast and your host and Canigraph.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Thank you very much, Randy, and we'll go right back
to Brent. Brent, thank you so much for calling. By
the way, I appreciate your call and your question, and
just to go back to what we were talking about earlier,
I think there are real reasons to believe that this
universe did not just come about by chance and real
reasons to believe that it doesn't stand the test in
(15:36):
an age of scientific enlightenment, to suppose that nothing creates everything.
And there are a lot of ramifications to an atheistic worldview,
because if you're just a material being, then your choices
are not free. They're fatalistically determined by brain, chemistry and genetics.
So the consequences of a materialistic worldview are very dramatic.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Okay, But more or less, what I was asking is,
I don't know. I think religion has some good points,
don't get me wrong. As far as the personal experience
I've had in my life, I've come to my own
conclusion that it's not real. As far as like the
whole Big Bang theory and stuff like that, it obviously
doesn't add up because if we had proof, then you know,
you'd see Richard Dawkins or whoever up on the news.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, but the Big Bang theory is not a Christian theory.
I mean, the Big Bang is cosmology, and it either
stands the test of scrutiny or a doesn't. And by
the way, Christians have no problem whatsoever adhering to the
Big Bang because the Big Bang presupposed is a beginning.
So that kind of cosmology, whether it's true or false,
(16:41):
I mean, it has to be determined on other grounds,
but it does not in any way conflict with a
biblical worldview.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
True.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
But my main point of my question is, if religion
is so logical, why not wait till children reach an
age of reason before you teach it to them, because
I've never seen them. Go pay Billy, There's either we
were created by intelligent design or we happen by natural
selection in nature. I've always seen, Hey, God created us
Jesus as your buddy. Is he don't ask to be
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in the Book of Life. You're going to be on
fire for the rest of forever.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, first of all, the Bible doesn't teach that you're
going to be on fire for the rest of your
life forever. What God does is allow you the opportunity
to have a relationship with Him or to reject that
see us. Lewis, a great thinker, said that there are
only two kinds of people in the world, those who
say to God, thy will be done, and those to
whom God in the end says thy will be done.
(17:34):
In other words, if you don't want a relationship with God,
He doesn't force that relationship on you, Brent, either in
this life or in the life to come. And that's
what hell is from a biblical perspective. It is God
continuing to sustain you in existence, albeit away from His
goodness and his grace. The metaphors that the Bible uses
(17:58):
are metaphors, and we should read them in that sense.
They're metaphors to communicate just how horrible it would be
to live in eternity apart from the goodness of God.
But you don't want to make metaphors walk on all fours. Otherwise,
it's hard to have a conversation of any kind. If
I'm saying it's raining cats and dogs, you know what
I mean, It's raining hard If you start to think
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I'm trying to tell you that cats and dogs are
actually falling out of the sky, we can't have a
meaningful conversation. But as far as what you're saying about
this idea of children, that's committing what we would call
the genetic fallacy to say that because many people come
to faith as children and keep that faith in to adulthood,
that that face, somehow or other, is right or wrong. No,
(18:40):
you've got to determine whether it's right or wrong based
on its own merits. And that's what I'm suggesting. I'm
suggesting that you can look at the universe and say
the universe demands a intelligent designer. If you find a basketball,
you never suppose that that basketball just came into existence
by itself. The universe, obviously, is a bit more complex
(19:03):
if you look at the compelling case for the resurrection
of Jesus Christ. Christians don't believe that because they just
choose to believe it, and they believe it because all
the evidence points in that direction. I mean, no less
an authority than doctor Simon Greenleaf. The real professor of
legal evidence is Harvard said that the evidence for the
resurrection is so overwhelming that it stretches to credulity to
(19:23):
believe that it's not true. Logic common sense in an
age of scientific enlightenment compels us to not only allow
for natural causes as explanations for what we encountered in
this world, but for supernatural explanations as well.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I can partially agree to that, you know, the Earth
happens to be the tag distance from the Sun to
get heat in mind, but not to fry us and
as the atmosphere wasn't structured the way it is, we
would all again either fry or dehydrate.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I guess eventually one day I'll either die and figure
out I'm wrong or come around you well.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I hope you do, because the reality is, I
was in exactly your shoes until I was twenty nine
years of age, and then I spent some real significant
time looking at the evidence. And I can tell you
that the evidence for creation, the evidence for the resurrection,
the evidence for the Bible being divine as opposed to
merely human in origin, is compelling, to say the least.
(20:24):
And today I can say to you as well, Brent,
that Christ is more real to me than the very
flesh upon my bones. And I hope you have that
experience as well. And by the way, I really commend
you for listening carefully to arguments. A note in the conversation.
A lot of people don't want to be confused by facts,
but you're quite different. You're listening, seeing if the reasoning
(20:45):
has any validity, and then judging on its merits, and
I commend you for that.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Hey, not a problem. I'm always up for knowledge.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Thanks for calling and if we could do anything else
for you, please let us know.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Hey, before you kick me off, I'm not going to
keep you about it. I've driven through Missouri a bunch
of times going home to see my wife. I'm stationed
out at Fort Knock. I'm in the United States Army.
But a lot of radio stations that I've heard are
very angry and hateful and just like Bible thumping hardheads
who condemn anybody who don't believe the way they do.
(21:18):
And I've tried to talk to them and it's oh,
they shut you down. And like I had a guy
in the radio tell me, I don't deserve to serve
this country because of the way that I believe. Like
you know, I I went to war for you, and
that's how you treat me. Right, So thank you for
being very respectful.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, thank you for your service to our country and
for your kind and generous way of conducting the conversation.
That's how conversations become meaningful. So thank you. Brent.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Hey, not a problem, have a good one, you too.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Want to go back to the phone lines and we'll
talk next to Tom. He's listening in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Hi Tom, Hey, Hey, what a great opportunity to and
so many times when I'm listening to your program to
get to pray. And that's exactly what I've been doing
for Brent, and God bless him for serving this country.
Freedom isn't free, and he is searching and that's awesome.
He's gonna find keep searching right exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I was in that position myself.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Yeah, haven't we all at one time or another. I
think nine percent of us. So listen real quickly. You're
an ambassador for CRI. So many behind you, and I
just appreciate the effort and the hard work that occurs.
The question I have is regarding DNA, which might be
another real good one for Brent brother, if you're still listening.
(22:36):
I love The Privileged Planet. I got that DVD and
we just we look at that thing so many times
and just in awe of what it shows. And one
of the things with Lee Strouble in his books too.
I've read so many of his books and I love
what he gently does. He walks you through common sense.
(22:57):
But have you heard whether or not? Now I don't
know the Smithsonian, I don't remember what big institutions have
the old skeletons they were so especially when Darwin and
Origin of Species and evolution was such a big deal.
They were so happy to have those thinking they were
probably human skulls. And now that DNA can discern exactly
(23:22):
what they are whatever species. Do you know if any
of those major fossils like that have been tested, and
if so, you know where they line up now, especially
since they've discovered their monkey. Probably well.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think that's exactly the problem in the icon. The
ape to man icon has become the argument, and the
argument turns out to be flawed for a lot of reasons,
including the fact that the icon itself is flawed, and
many of the icons that are part of the ape
demand icon, like pithecanthropus, erectus, peaking man, piltdown man, nebraska man,
(23:59):
et cetera, have been demonstrated to be absolutely false in
terms of being transitional forms between apes and human beings.
But beyond that, there are many other arguments that could
be adduced to demonstrate that there's no linkage whatsoever between
an ape or a monkey and a man, or a
(24:22):
chimp and a man, and I think that evidence is very,
very compelling. The biblical principle is more correct today than
it ever has been, and that is kinds reproduce after
their own kinds the kind of transitional form that's pointed to.
And of course we believe in transitions within kinds, just
(24:42):
not from one kind to another kind the kinds of
transitions that are pointed to, and I give many examples
of this in the Creation answer Book. Upon further examination,
simply do not hold any weight whatsoever you know, and
think about the incredible lead of logic it is to
suppose that scales develop into feathers, and the whole notion
(25:08):
that reptiles evolve into birds, that is stretching credulity for sure,
beyond the breaking point of any thinking individual. I've written
about this again in various places, including the face that
demonstrates the farce of evolution and the Creation answer Book.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
And then, yeah, even the fossil record doesn't show any transition,
and so I was most curious whether or not CRI
has a perspectus on any of that testing that was
done against those old assumptions.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, we do. And you know, one of the books,
by the way, from the standpoint of the whole idea
of intelligent design and DNA, is a book written by
Stephen Meyer called signature in the cell DNA and the
Evidence for Intelligent Design subtitle I'd like.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
To stay on the line and maybe order those if
it If that's all right?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, absolutely, God, blessure, love you gave. Thank you so
much for your call. We're out of time for this
edition of the Bible answer Man Broadcast. Tune in tomorrow
we'll have more of the Bible Instrument Broadcast. Again, thank
you for your support. God bless you.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
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(27:04):
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has been rampant misreading of scripture, bad theology, and even
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(27:25):
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events or recent history. The Apocalypse Code offers sane answers
to some very controversial questions, such as what does it
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the Antichrist and the Great Horror of Babylon? And what
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