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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Glad of you hanging on. We'll go right to the
phone calls for step As Roger listening in the Desta, California.
Hi Roger, Hi, HEYK who are you. I'm good? Thank
you good.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I just wanted to quickly before my question just testify
to the fact that the acronym maps is an amazing tool.
I just got through reading your book Has God Spoken,
and you use that throughout the book and it is
it is amazing and it is effective. So I just
wanted your listeners to here's a confirmation from someone that
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uses it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Bless you, Roger, Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
My question actually kind of come stems from the book,
and it has to do with the laws of the
Old Testament. And you can either correct or confirm I
think what is correct. But basically there I understand that Jesus,
you know, took on the laws. So in a sense
he is our passover lamb and our feast on leave
and bread and so on and so forth. But isn't
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there some laws in the Old Testament that we still
use today, especially you know, moral laws stealing and what
have you. And I guess my my main question is
what is there a verb in the Bible or section
of verses in the Bible that helps us to kind
of leap through What laws we no longer necessarily need
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to recognize, such as the feasts and what have you?
Comhered to? What laws are still valid?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, well, I think you summed it up very well
in the prolog to the question. The civil aspects of
the Old Testament law were largely a function of a
theocracy where God is ruling directly over a people, and
the ceremonial aspects of the law were fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
So as you point out the sacrificial system, add to
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that dietary laws, and so forth they find their fulfillment
in Jesus Christ, and therefore they're abrogated. But again, as
you've correctly pointed out, the moral aspects of the law
are efficacious for us today. They're universal in application, and
they're reiterated in the New Testament. And I think that's
the ultimate proof of what is and what is not.
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And of course we know what's been abrogated, because Christ
made that clear. For example, speaking about the dietary laws,
he said, it's not what goes into a man's mouth
and out through his body that defiles him. It is
that which proceeds from the heart. And then Mark appens
the words to that in saying this, Jesus declared all
foods clean. So I think you have the essence of
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the answer in the prologue to the question, and you
stated it very succinctly. But in terms of verses, again,
the moral aspects of the law are reiterated in the
New Testament.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All right, wonderful, wonderful. I have a friend, and I
just hope you can help me answer this. But he
brought out the fact that in in IV and I
think another translation at the end of Mark sixteen, there's
this abortion that is kind of debatable amongst different scholars
on whether that section of the chapter is authentic or not.
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And I know it really doesn't matter, because even if
you're to take that out, I mean, it still reiterates
what the Bible already says. But his question to me was,
but doesn't it make us question kind of the rest
of the candidate what was chose to be in there
or not? And so I'm I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, Well, the answer that is, Noah doesn't. And as
I point out and has got spoken, there are portions
of the Bible, like the long ending to the Book
of Mark, that we've determined through what's called textual criticism,
are not in the earliest, most reliable manuscripts, and that's
why most of the newer translations actually have a little
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note that says that the most reliable early manuscripts and
other ancient witnesses do not have the long ending of Mark.
But again, insightful way to ask the question, because in
asking the question, you're also pointing out that the information
contained in the longer ending you'll find elsewhere, but with
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contextualization in the rest of the New Testament. And that's
one of the things you see with the Synoptic Gospels.
They are complimentary, they're not contradictory, and they also give
evidence that there's no collusion whatsoever, because of each of
the witnesses said the same thing and precisely the same way.
The first conclusion that we would draw is that there
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is some conclusion going on, but they're complimentary, not contradictory,
and so they form together a beautiful tapestry of mosaic.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Okay, wonderful. I'm enough to just reread that section of
the book again and thank you again for your ministry,
and I just praise the Lord and give him the glory.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And then, well, thank you Roger. You have been a
great encouragement to me today. Thank you. Back to the
phone lines. We'll talk to Jesse next in Texas. Hi, Jesse,
how are you doing good? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
My question was that was somebody that had called in
and they were talking about speaking in tongues, and you
have mentioned about speaking tongue. Sometimes it could be like,
you know, because she asks all tongues, did you want
to get you want to know that some of it
has to do with the devil. I guess that's what
one of her questions was. And you say it's like
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a myth delating or something you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, I mean, there's no question that some people are
abusing tongues today. You think of Rodney Howard Brown or
Kenneth Copeland. They didn't act together where they were speaking
in dueling tongues and laughing, and they were drunk in
the spirit and so forth. So they're making a mockery
in a blasphemous way of the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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Tongues first appear in the Bible in Genesis chapter eleven
with the Tower of Babel, where God confuses tongues, and
that is because men were seeking a humanistic goal and
God at that point in history thwarts their plans. Then
we see tongues reappear in the early stages in the
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New Testament as well, Acts Chapter two, where all of
the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit and they
began to speak in other languages or other tongues. And
then of course everybody was asking who gathered in Jerusalem,
how is it that each of us hears these disciples
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in their own native languages or their own native tongues.
So we see tongues here, and it has a direct
and very efficacious purpose, and that is, instead of dispersing
the tongues as was the case at Babel, now God
unifies the tongues so that the gospel might go out
throughout the then known world. In fact, you have an
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updated list of the table of nations that were given
in Genesis ten, just preceding the Tower of Babel passage
in Genesis chapter eleven. So yeah, you see tongues appear
in the scripture. So now the question is does God
give people the gift of being able to speak in
other languages today for missionary enterprises. And of course at
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the early stages of the Pentecostal Revival, people thought that, yeah,
that's precisely what God does, and a lot of the
people would go out to the mission field, they go
to India or Africa at different places around the world,
and they try to speak in tongues. Well, it didn't
work very well, so some of them came back and
learned the language and then went back to the country
and started witnessing after having learned the language. So the
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miraculous gift didn't operate exactly as they thought it would.
Other people then started supposing, well, maybe this is a
private prayer language. And certainly if you look at Pentecostal denominations,
they oftentimes communicate that it's not only a public proclamation
and has an efficacious effect that way, but also has
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a private, inner personal aspect to it. But I think
what's important is to recognize that though Pentecostals say it
is the evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit,
I think from a biblical perspective, the best case you
can make for it is that it is a evidence,
because there are many other evidences that are a demonstration
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that you have been filled with the spirit. And of course,
implicit in that is the fact that there is a
distinction between in filling and in dwelling. If you're in
filled with the spirit, it is a way of talking
about being empowered for service. If you're in dwelt by
the Holy Spirit, as a way of saying that you
have become a follower of Jesus Christ and His Spirit
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now resides within you.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Okay, well, I understand it, you know what you're saying.
But as far as I mean, I've read a lot
of it, you know, in the scripture. I'm just wondering
how as far as the church studying acts, you know
how everything's put it. If I come, we're not doing
it today.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, the church didn't start an act. You can go
back to Matthew chapter eighteen, where Jesus says, if your
brother sins against you, go and show him his fault
just between the two of you. If he listens to you,
you've won your brother over. But if he will not listen,
take one or two others along, so that every matter
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may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
And then says Jesus, if he refuses to listen to them,
tell it to the church. And if he refuses to
listen even to the church, treat him as you would
a pagan or a tax collector. Again, I've written about
tongues in various places. There's an entry, for example, in
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thank you r Indian. Back to our callers. Next up
as Tammy listening in Saint Louis, Missouri, Hi, Tammy, I
thinks I had.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
A question about end of ye, specifically what the Bible
talks about as far as the euthanasia. I live in
this state of Missouri, and there are euthanasia is illegal.
But what I found out, unfortunately the hard way, is
that even though a living room might designate what the
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patient marks, the proxy or the person who has durable
power can override that and make decisions for the person,
including end of life. And my mother had been placed
in a Lutheran nursing facility and they had accepted her
into end of life what they called care. Even though
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she didn't meet the criteria which is terminally ill, coma,
unable to breathe on their own, etc. She wasn't in
any pain. She brings on her own, and her heart
was good. She was awake, she was aware, but she
had a stroke and was having difficulties speaking right away
and swallowing. And this is just a matter of a
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few days. She was already lifting limbs on command, giggling,
trying to talk, and when the durable powers of my
family decided, actually they talked about it on the first day,
within hours of her stroke, decided on putting her an
end of life care instead of a nursing facility. The
sad thing is that she was moved to end of
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life and then she was immediately sedated, and she was
kept sedated. She was also given morphine right away. Even
though she wasn't in pain. Her kiddy started shutting down
and her breathing became lab from the morphine and et cetera.
She was also deprived any food or water. She only
had a feeding tube for a day and it went
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very very well, and then my dad changed his mind.
So here she has been deprived of all that, and
yet everything else was going well for her. I mean,
she was self supportive except for swallowing right immediately after
this drug. So my question, I guess is hank, I
mean I asked to try to is.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
She still alive?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
No. They gave her a lethal medication ten days after
which ended her life within hours, and she was put
through a lot of pain. When your kidneys and everything
started shutting down, she had fever and pain so my
question is this is a you know, a state that
is against youth in Asia, and yet a proxy can
change the rules and it be legal. And I'm when
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she was cremated too, which was not her directive, and
a death certificate says she died of natural causes, which
is not true at all. So I'm having to deal
with ause me nothing. The police wouldn't do anything, you know,
the Senior Abuse Health line got there too late. They
waited like five days and then they's gone already. This
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place has very obviously forged evidence because when the senior
abuse investigator did go, they did not see all of
these narcotics. And I was there and they cremated the evidence.
So there's no way that I can even prove it.
But I also have a father who's eighty six years old,
and I love him. I love him very very much,
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and he's old, and yet I don't know how to
I can forgive him, whether he asked for it or not,
or admits what he did with the sin, but I
want to reconcile what I said how And my sister's
telling him that I'm crazy and I have some kind
of disorder, like a personality disorder, I've never even heard
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of and that. Oh, and he even asked if I
was doing drugs. I said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, Tammy, you are completely in the right on this issue.
You know, from a biblical perspective, there is a precedent
for what's called passive euthanasia, which essentially means that the
dying process is allowed to run its natural course. But
active euthanasia, which is precisely what you described, is morally
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prohibited because it directly involves the taking of a human life.
And given the information that you provided, that's precisely what happened.
And you're absolutely right. There's nothing crazy about you. This
is morally reprehensible.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Yes, the police do nothing, The government does nothing, These
agencies do nothing. My family thankful, she's out of her misery.
It's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, it is crazy, and your perspective is not crazy.
Their perspective is crazy. Look, biblical perspective on suffering is
that suffering produces perseverance and preserv aran's character and character. Hope.
My dad he had a fibrosing of the lungs, which
encroach upon his ability to assimilate oxygen, and so he
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died a rather slow, agonizing death and I remember when
he was going through the difficulty of just gasping for
one more breath, and I would ask him, Dad, do
you sometimes feel like you just want to go home
to be with the Lord? And he would always say
to me, Know, every moment God gives me is precious.
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And I saw the outworking of that at the very
end of his life, when he had the opportunity, like
a Jewish patriarch, to lay on his bed and pray
for every one of his children and grandchildren and then
take one last breath and go home to be with
the Lord. So life is precious. The prerogative to take
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life is not the prerogative of human beings. It is
God's prerogative alone. And when we take that prerogative of
upon ourselves, there's a word for that. That's murder. And
that's exactly what active euthanasia is. It's murder. And so
your perspective is not only biblically correct, it's morally correct,
and it corresponds to reality or common sense.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm taking a pastor with me
to meet with my father, and I'm lucky he agreed
to doing that, and only in his home that I
mean it's scary because he's not acting rational. He's very angry.
My sisters filled them with a lot of ideas and
like kind the enemy. And I told him how much
I love him, and then I don't want to fight
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with him. That we will never agree about this, so
it's best not to discuss it. But he wants to
have to say so. And I'm hoping that the pastor
and I will be able to sit and listen, and
then the pastor will be able to offer something that
Dad can't accept from me.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, hang on, Timmy, because I want to send you
some information that might be useful to you. Thank you
in my prayers. Go alone with you. This is a
difficult time for you. I'll be thinking about you.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Thank you. Thanks for sharing about your dad.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You got it, Tammy. And of course this is an
increasingly relevant question. And from a biblical perspective, as I said,
there's great redemptive value in suffering. It might be likened
into a furnace that rids us of dross and fashions
us more and more like our Lord. Charles Haddon Spurgeon
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once said that I am certain that I never grew
in grace one half as much anywhere as I have
upon the bed of pain, God whispers to us since C. S.
Lewis in our pleasures, but he speaks to us in
shouts when we are in pain. It's his megaphone to
rouse a deaf world. And that, of course, is not
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to say that there's virtue in needless suffering. To mitigate
suffering through the modern medical miracle of pain management is
consistent with Biblical morality, but we should never forget that
permitting voluntary active euthanasia opens the door to the greater
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evil of non voluntary euthanasia. And it's not difficult to
imagine financial pressures coercing the deceased and the disabled and
those who are dying to surrender to doctor assisted suicide
so as not to burden their families. And worse still,
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doctors and nursing home directors may well take it upon
themselves to euthanize patients without their consent and without the
family's knowledge. That's known as hidden death, and there's ample
evidence that that is already occurring at an alarming rate
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in places like the Netherlands, where I was born, where
euthanasia has slid down the slippery slope into kryptanasia. Cultural theenontologists,
they might urge us to accept death as a friend,
but Christian theology sees death as the enemy. And we're
not called to come to peaceful terms with death. We're
called to overcome death through resurrection. So every painful moment
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is precious as we look forward to the ultimate resurrection.
And again, we should never suppose that we can take
a prerogative upon ourselves. That is God's alone. I want
to go back to the phone lines. We'll talk to
Vowery next. She's listening in Winfield, Kansas.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Hi VALI, Hi Hank, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I had started to go into a Bible study with
some of the women that I work with, and they're
doing this new Bible study on a man called Mark Berkeler.
And this book is, I think the title of it
is Four Ways to Hear.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
From God, The four Ways to hearing God's Voice, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Four Ways to hearing God's Boy Yeah. And I immediately
it was one of these things in my gut that
I just felt like, no, this is wrong, and I
couldn't explain it. And I talked with some friends and
tried to do a little bit of research, but I
listened to you all the time, and I just really
I can't thank you enough for the information that you've
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given me in so many areas. But I wanted to
know what you thought of this person in this teaching.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's a snake pit of false teachings. He's just outrageous
and of course hangs out with all the counterfeit revivalists
that I wrote about in my book Counterfeit Revival. But
this is called revelation based learning and teaches you to
hear God's voice subjectively, So rather than hearing God's voice
through his word, you come up with a substitute, and
the substitute is hardly reliable. It is just a horrible
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book and it is a horrible teacher, more theological hang
ups than a dry cleaner. If you want to get
a perspective on all the counterfeit revivalist tactics used, my
book Counterfeit Revival lays all of this out. You can
check that out on the web equip dot org and
fortune gonna have to leave it at that, so long
for now.
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