November 20, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (11/20/25), Hank answers the following questions:
Is there anything in the Bible that promises physical healing for the believer? Mike - Oklahoma City, OK (0:51)
My wife watches John Hagee. Can you explain again why you don’t endorse his teaching? Harvey - OR (15:12)
Why was Saul so angry at David that he wanted to kill him? Andrew - St. Louis, MO (22:04)
How can I better share the gospel with a friend who is a Jehovah’s Witness? Marco - Springfield, MO (23:56)
Is there anything in the Bible that promises physical healing for the believer? Mike - Oklahoma City, OK (0:51)
My wife watches John Hagee. Can you explain again why you don’t endorse his teaching? Harvey - OR (15:12)
Why was Saul so angry at David that he wanted to kill him? Andrew - St. Louis, MO (22:04)
How can I better share the gospel with a friend who is a Jehovah’s Witness? Marco - Springfield, MO (23:56)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Bible answer Man Broadcast with Christian Research
Institute President Hank Canagraph. Our mission at CRII is not
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
Randy will go right to our phone callers. First up
today is Mike listening of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Mike, Hello, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Question, is there anywhere in the Word of God that
states or promises physical healing for the believer? Physical healing?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well? I would say the answer to that question is
that physical healing is provided for through the atonement of
Jesus Christ, but certainly is never guaranteed in this life.
What is guaranteed is in this life you will have trouble,
but take heart, have overcome the world, which is to
say that we await a new order of things, a
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day in which there be no more death, mourning, crying,
or pain, a day in which the old order of
things will have been done away with and all things
will become new. In the meantime, we recognize that Christianity
doesn't give us a peaceful way to come to terms
with the maladies of life. Rather, it gives us something
(01:53):
far greater a way to overcome them, because our hope
is in resurrection, that day in which there'll be a
new order of things.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Right. Yeah, I am currently debating this with a Word
of Faith individual and you know they're quick to go
back to Mark eleven and and uh talk about you know,
if we if we ask anything in his name. But
I'm going back to the point where I don't see
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anywhere in the Word of God where it promises physical
healing other than James five appears to be a claim
that that you will be healed. The prayer of faith
will heal the sick. And I've been researching how that
faith is actually the is it is it physical healing?
(02:47):
Because the chapter the verse right after it's talking about
forgiveness of sins, so could you shed any light on
that James five passage.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, we are called in James five to pray for
the sick, just as we are called to present the
Gospel for salvation. Our prayer or presentation of the Gospel
doesn't save anyone, and it is obviously the Holy Spirit
that changes the heart. And in the same way, our
prayer for the sick is efficacious if it is in
concert with the will of God. And we see that
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if you read James in context. For example, in James four,
which precedes James five, James says, now listen to you
who say today or tomorrow we will go to this
or that city, spend a year there, carry on business,
make money. Why you don't even know what will happen tomorrow?
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What is your life? You are a mist that appears
for a little while and then vanishes. Instead, you ought
to say, if it is the Lord's will, we will
live and do this and that. As it is, you
boast in brag all Such boasting is evil. So again
everything is super seded by if it is the Lord's will.
(04:02):
And this goes back to the passage that you referenced earlier,
Mark chapter eleven. If you look at the passage that's
quoted eleven twenty three, which you reference in the prolog
to your question. It is superseded by Mark eleven twenty two,
which says, have faith in God. Certainly God can do anything,
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but we want to pray if it is your will.
And why do we pray that way? Well, because God
sees the panoply of our life. We see just a
snapshot at a time. And the whole idea of Scripture
is not that we're going to have a panacea in
this life with ultimate health and wealth, but that we
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look forward to a day in which the old order
things will be done away with and all things will
be restored to what paradise was before Adam and Eve
fell in the lives of perpetual sin terminated by death.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Good Hank, very good. Appreciate you shed a lot of
light on things, and I appreciate that you got.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
To thank you so much for your call. Of course,
one of the Faith movement's favorite proof texts is the
wonderfully True Isaiah fifty three five, which says he was
pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities,
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and
(05:30):
by his wounds we are healed. Contrary to faith teachings,
the Hebrew word here rafa more often than not refers
to spiritual as opposed to physical healing. As such, when
the prophet Jeremiah says, return, oh, faithless sons, I will heal.
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I will rafa your faithlessness, he's obviously not referring to
physical healing, and Isaiah could hardly make it clear that
he has spiritual healing in mind when he communicates that
Messiah or Christ was to be pierced for our transgressions,
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crushed for our iniquities. And then Peter builds on this
understanding by writing, he himself bore our sins in his
body on the tree, so that we might die to
sins and live for righteousness. By his wounds, you have
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been healed. Then he underscores us when he says, for
you were like sheep going astray, but now have returned
to the shepherd and overseer of your souls. Peter's theme
here could be stated any more clearly. He says that
Christ bore our sins, our sicknesses. As such, Peter makes
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plain that the healing referred to in Isaiah fifty three
to five is spiritual, not physical. Now what's interesting is
if you go on and you read a little farther.
Isaiah fifty three to five does not have physical healing
in view, but the verse immediately preceding it does speak
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of healing for the body, where Isaiah writes, surely he
took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows. Yet we
considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
Now not only as physical healing clear in that context,
but it's also affirmed by the Gospels, where it's given
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a qualification. Matthew says, when evening came, many who were
demon possessed were brought to him, and he drove out
the spirits with a word, and heal all the sick.
And then says Matthew, this was to fulfill what was
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spoken through the prophet Isaiah. He took up our infirmities
and carried our diseases. Therefore, the healing mentioned in Isaiah
fifty three four was fulfilled during the healing ministry of
Christ and consequently does not guarantee our healing today. And
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the danger, of course, with the Word of faith movement
is apparent when word of faith, people take their theology
into practice with absolutely disastrous consequences. I'll never forget when
a man from San Marcos, Texas called me. His name
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was Kirk, and he called in and he talked about
his mom. A lump appeared in her breast, and she
determined to deny the symptom, and thus she rejected medical treatment.
And she was so committed to the faith message that
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even as the tumor continued to grow, she stood her ground.
It wasn't until the tumor had become a weeping sore
consuming most of her breast, that she finally looked to
medical attention. But then it was too late, so she
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died six months later. And even at the funeral, the
faith followers lauded Kirk's mother for denying her symptoms, and
he said, at that point, it sickened me to watch
people from her church come to the front and praise
her for what she had done, for the tenacity of
her faith. It was just mind boggling. Well, it's equally
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mind boggling that you have faith teaching who popularize the
notion that symptoms like this are simply satan except refuge.
And do you have a new breed of faith teachers today.
We're virulent in teaching these kinds of errors. We need
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to learn to read the Bible for all it's worth,
because if we do not, we are going to fall
for the pretexts of faith teachers who are distorting the
Word of God in dangerous fashion. I've written to bount
this in my book Christianity in Crisis twenty first century,
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
Very much, Randy, and we'll go right back to our
phone callers. Next up as Harvey listening in Oregon.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hi, Harvey, Yes, good afternoon, Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
My pleasure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
My wife has been discussing John Hagey and I said,
you know, I don't think Hank Canagraph endorses him and
it doesn't agree with his teaching.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, yeah, that's absolutely true. I mean he shamelessly promotes
the pretext of a prosperous Jesus. He says that Jesus
lived in a mansion. He says that if you go
to John one thirty eight, you see that Jesus turned
to those who were following him and said, come with me,
and they said, where dwellest thou? And he said, come
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and see. And Jesus took the crowd home with him
to stay in his house. Then says hegy that meant
it was a big house. Then he says Jesus wore
designer clothes, he had a designer robe. And then he
goes on to say, when you have to have a
secretary treasurer to carry the excess money, you're not poor. Well,
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as I demonstrated my book Christianity in Christ of twenty
first century, the notion of Jesus with a rolex is
the stuff of mists and fables. In fact, the crowd
Jesus allegedly invited to stay with him in his mansion
is the mere figment of Hagey's over active imagination. Now,
and the very passage that he cites makes it clear
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that far from inviting a crowd to join him in
a mansion, Jesus invited two people to see where he
was staying. And in the same way the notion that
the soldiers gambled for Christ's garment because it was so valuable,
it is completely ad hoc. In reality, they cast lots
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for the garment of Christ, not only that the scripture
might be fulfilled, but because, as common sense would dictate,
one carment divided into four rags would have been of
little value to them. But even if we suppose that
this was an expensive undergarment, there's no warrant to presume
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that the closet of Christ's mention was replete with more
of the same. Nor can we presume that because the
disciples had a money bag, that Jesus was a multimillion
dollar messiah. I mean, instead, the message of Jesus is
consistent and clear. It's easy for a cambel to go
through the eye of a needle than for a rich
man to enter the Kingdom of God. But this is
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not the end of it. I mean, if you look
at his teachings, they're just shameful.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Quite frankly, I'm not always home on the weekends, and
so she doesn't always attend to church. She says, yeah,
I do my Bible study, and then I listened to
John Hagy and boy, it just really is right on No, no, no, no,
I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No, it really is, and he is, I think a
very dangerous teacher. You need to test what he says
in lightest scripture and then hold fast that which is good.
And if you don't have a good working knowledge of scripture,
you can end up with all kinds of errors which
are pretty tragic. For example, John Hagey places more emphasis
on returning Jewish pilgrims to the land than in turning
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Jewish people to the Lord. He says in one of
his statement, let's put an end to this Christian chatter
that all Jews are lost and can't be in the
will of God until they convert to Christianity. And then
he takes the onus off the Jewish community places on
the Jewish christ. He says this, and I'm looking at
this quote right now, just dragged it up out of
one of my books. If Jesus refused, by his words
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or actions to claim to be Messiah to the Jews, then,
says Hagey, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting
what was never offered? So, according to hage the Jewish
people wanted Jesus to be their Messiah, but he was
absolutely refusing to be their messiah. Then he says, the
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Jews were not rejecting Jesus's messiah. It was Jesus who
was refusing to be Messiah to the Jews. Of course,
anyone who has read through the Gospels even once knows
that Jesus emphatically contradicted this notion. I mean, who can
forget the emotionally charged words of Christ. Is he's walking
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away from the temple, he says, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you
who killed the prophets and stone those sent to you.
How often I have longed to gather your children together
as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, But
you were not willing. Or you can look at John
where he says he came to that which was his own,
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but his own did not reach them. It was the
Jews who rejected Jesus, not the other way around. So
this is a guy who very commonly distorts the word
of God and teaches all kinds of error in the process,
which is very, very dangerous, particularly if you're not well grounded.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, this is very good. I really appreciate your answer,
and you're taking the time to go over this with me, Well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You got it. Thank you so much for your call.
I have written about this and referenced John Hagen a
number of different places, including Christian Chrisis twenty first century
in my book The Apocalypse Code, where I note that
those who dare question the notion of a pre tribulational
rapture followed by a Holy Land Holocaust in which the
vast majority of Jews perish are shouted down as peddlers
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of godless heresy by people like John Hagey. In fact,
the ultimate pejorative phrase has been coined for those who
do and I the heart of dispensational eschatology. They're dubbed
replacement theologians, and then are said to be guilty of
spreading the message of anti Semitism. So John Hagey, bluntly
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in his denunciation, says, replacement theologians are now carrying Hitler's
anointing and his message. And of course, at best we
can say that this is one of those issues we
can debate vigorously, we don't have to divide over. But
to use this kind of invective is disturbing to say
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the least, and I would add hage is the one
who is the replacement theologian. He believes Israel will replace
the Church as the focus of God's plan during the Tribulation.
And I would say a much better way of looking
at this is that the Church has not replaced Israel.
The Church is part of true Israel. Read first Peter two,
nine and ten. More could be said, but again, I've
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read about this in various places, including the Croclibs code.
Check it out on the web. It equipped. Or let's
go back to the phone lines, Andrew, next Saint Louis, Missouri. Hi, Andrew, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I would like to ask why was Saul so angry
at David that he wanted.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
To kill him?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, it's a good question, Andrew, and you know, the
short answer to that question is jealousy. What happened is
Saul saw that God accepted David, and he had rejected
him as the king of the land. But the reason
for that is because Saul did not genuinely have a
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heart that yearned after God. And when he saw David,
whose heart panted after God the Bible says, like a
dear pants after water, he became jealous of that love
relationship that David had with the Lord, and instead of
loving the Lord. He hated David, and he was angry
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at David. And we see that throughout the Bible, beginning
with Cain and Abel. Remember in the story in Genesis
where Cain kills his brother Abel. Why because God had
accepted Abel's sacrifice, but he did not accept Cain's sacrifice. Again,
it was the same reason. Cain's heart was really not
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turned towards the Lord. It was turned against the Lord.
And Abel's heart was turned to the Lord. And when
Cain saw the relationship between Abel and God, he was jealous,
and through that jealousy ended up killing his brother. So
the real answer to the question is he was jealous
and as a result, the spirit of God left him.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Thank you so much for your call. Let's go back
the phone lines. DOC to Marco listening in Springfield, Missouri.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Hi, Marco, Yes, Hey, Yank, I.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Have a question about I have a friend and he
is a Jehovah witness and I'm a Christian. I don't
have all the right answer, yets to properly stake this
case to him that the Wife Power organization based on
I understand it is that's really not Christianity. The way
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it's practiced.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. And I think what we have
to do in this particular case is understand the deviation
so that we can use them as springboards or opportunities
share the truth of the Gospel. The Wan Star Society,
first of all, compromises the nature of God, and they
teach in this regard the notion that the Trinity is
a freakish looking three headed God. So they take Christianity
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on at its most basic fundamental teaching with respect to
the nature of God. Again, they call the Trinity of
freakish looking three headed God invented by Satan, and they
say that Jesus is merely a God. So in their theologies,
was created by God as the archangel Michael. During his
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earthly sojourn he became merely human, and after his crucifixion
he was recreated and immaterial spirit creature. They also deny
the physical resurrection of Jesus, and it keeps going from
bad to worse. Under the threat of being this fellowship,
Jehovah's witnesses are barred from celebrating holidays. Even more troubling,
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our Watchtower regulations regarding vaccinations, organ transplants, blood transfusions, all
of which are based on faulty teachings and faulty authority.
And again, what is critical in this case is to
know that the Bible is the authority by which we
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can legitimately test all things, because we can demonstrate the
Bible to be divine as opposed to merely human in origin.
Out of time for this edition of the broadcast, we
look forward to seeing you right back here next time
with more of your questions.
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Welcome to the Bible answer Man Broadcast with Christian Research
Institute President Hank Canagraph. Our mission at CRII is not
only to equip you with Christian doctrine, apologetic accuracy, and discernment,
but to help you become a faithful apprentice of Jesus Christ,
because life and truth matter. If you'd like to know
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and now here's Hank Canagraph thevery much.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Randy will go right to our phone callers. First up
today is Mike listening of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Mike, Hello, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Question, is there anywhere in the Word of God that
states or promises physical healing for the believer? Physical healing?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well? I would say the answer to that question is
that physical healing is provided for through the atonement of
Jesus Christ, but certainly is never guaranteed in this life.
What is guaranteed is in this life you will have trouble,
but take heart, have overcome the world, which is to
say that we await a new order of things, a
(01:31):
day in which there be no more death, mourning, crying,
or pain, a day in which the old order of
things will have been done away with and all things
will become new. In the meantime, we recognize that Christianity
doesn't give us a peaceful way to come to terms
with the maladies of life. Rather, it gives us something
(01:53):
far greater a way to overcome them, because our hope
is in resurrection, that day in which there'll be a
new order of things.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Right. Yeah, I am currently debating this with a Word
of Faith individual and you know they're quick to go
back to Mark eleven and and uh talk about you know,
if we if we ask anything in his name. But
I'm going back to the point where I don't see
(02:25):
anywhere in the Word of God where it promises physical
healing other than James five appears to be a claim
that that you will be healed. The prayer of faith
will heal the sick. And I've been researching how that
faith is actually the is it is it physical healing?
(02:47):
Because the chapter the verse right after it's talking about
forgiveness of sins, so could you shed any light on
that James five passage.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, we are called in James five to pray for
the sick, just as we are called to present the
Gospel for salvation. Our prayer or presentation of the Gospel
doesn't save anyone, and it is obviously the Holy Spirit
that changes the heart. And in the same way, our
prayer for the sick is efficacious if it is in
concert with the will of God. And we see that
(03:18):
if you read James in context. For example, in James four,
which precedes James five, James says, now listen to you
who say today or tomorrow we will go to this
or that city, spend a year there, carry on business,
make money. Why you don't even know what will happen tomorrow?
(03:39):
What is your life? You are a mist that appears
for a little while and then vanishes. Instead, you ought
to say, if it is the Lord's will, we will
live and do this and that. As it is, you
boast in brag all Such boasting is evil. So again
everything is super seded by if it is the Lord's will.
(04:02):
And this goes back to the passage that you referenced earlier,
Mark chapter eleven. If you look at the passage that's
quoted eleven twenty three, which you reference in the prolog
to your question. It is superseded by Mark eleven twenty two,
which says, have faith in God. Certainly God can do anything,
(04:23):
but we want to pray if it is your will.
And why do we pray that way? Well, because God
sees the panoply of our life. We see just a
snapshot at a time. And the whole idea of Scripture
is not that we're going to have a panacea in
this life with ultimate health and wealth, but that we
(04:44):
look forward to a day in which the old order
things will be done away with and all things will
be restored to what paradise was before Adam and Eve
fell in the lives of perpetual sin terminated by death.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Good Hank, very good. Appreciate you shed a lot of
light on things, and I appreciate that you got.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
To thank you so much for your call. Of course,
one of the Faith movement's favorite proof texts is the
wonderfully True Isaiah fifty three five, which says he was
pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities,
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and
(05:30):
by his wounds we are healed. Contrary to faith teachings,
the Hebrew word here rafa more often than not refers
to spiritual as opposed to physical healing. As such, when
the prophet Jeremiah says, return, oh, faithless sons, I will heal.
(05:56):
I will rafa your faithlessness, he's obviously not referring to
physical healing, and Isaiah could hardly make it clear that
he has spiritual healing in mind when he communicates that
Messiah or Christ was to be pierced for our transgressions,
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crushed for our iniquities. And then Peter builds on this
understanding by writing, he himself bore our sins in his
body on the tree, so that we might die to
sins and live for righteousness. By his wounds, you have
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been healed. Then he underscores us when he says, for
you were like sheep going astray, but now have returned
to the shepherd and overseer of your souls. Peter's theme
here could be stated any more clearly. He says that
Christ bore our sins, our sicknesses. As such, Peter makes
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plain that the healing referred to in Isaiah fifty three
to five is spiritual, not physical. Now what's interesting is
if you go on and you read a little farther.
Isaiah fifty three to five does not have physical healing
in view, but the verse immediately preceding it does speak
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of healing for the body, where Isaiah writes, surely he
took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows. Yet we
considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
Now not only as physical healing clear in that context,
but it's also affirmed by the Gospels, where it's given
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a qualification. Matthew says, when evening came, many who were
demon possessed were brought to him, and he drove out
the spirits with a word, and heal all the sick.
And then says Matthew, this was to fulfill what was
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spoken through the prophet Isaiah. He took up our infirmities
and carried our diseases. Therefore, the healing mentioned in Isaiah
fifty three four was fulfilled during the healing ministry of
Christ and consequently does not guarantee our healing today. And
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the danger, of course, with the Word of faith movement
is apparent when word of faith, people take their theology
into practice with absolutely disastrous consequences. I'll never forget when
a man from San Marcos, Texas called me. His name
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was Kirk, and he called in and he talked about
his mom. A lump appeared in her breast, and she
determined to deny the symptom, and thus she rejected medical treatment.
And she was so committed to the faith message that
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even as the tumor continued to grow, she stood her ground.
It wasn't until the tumor had become a weeping sore
consuming most of her breast, that she finally looked to
medical attention. But then it was too late, so she
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died six months later. And even at the funeral, the
faith followers lauded Kirk's mother for denying her symptoms, and
he said, at that point, it sickened me to watch
people from her church come to the front and praise
her for what she had done, for the tenacity of
her faith. It was just mind boggling. Well, it's equally
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mind boggling that you have faith teaching who popularize the
notion that symptoms like this are simply satan except refuge.
And do you have a new breed of faith teachers today.
We're virulent in teaching these kinds of errors. We need
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to learn to read the Bible for all it's worth,
because if we do not, we are going to fall
for the pretexts of faith teachers who are distorting the
Word of God in dangerous fashion. I've written to bount
this in my book Christianity in Crisis twenty first century,
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
Very much, Randy, and we'll go right back to our
phone callers. Next up as Harvey listening in Oregon.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Hi, Harvey, Yes, good afternoon, Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
My pleasure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
My wife has been discussing John Hagey and I said,
you know, I don't think Hank Canagraph endorses him and
it doesn't agree with his teaching.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, yeah, that's absolutely true. I mean he shamelessly promotes
the pretext of a prosperous Jesus. He says that Jesus
lived in a mansion. He says that if you go
to John one thirty eight, you see that Jesus turned
to those who were following him and said, come with me,
and they said, where dwellest thou? And he said, come
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and see. And Jesus took the crowd home with him
to stay in his house. Then says hegy that meant
it was a big house. Then he says Jesus wore
designer clothes, he had a designer robe. And then he
goes on to say, when you have to have a
secretary treasurer to carry the excess money, you're not poor. Well,
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as I demonstrated my book Christianity in Christ of twenty
first century, the notion of Jesus with a rolex is
the stuff of mists and fables. In fact, the crowd
Jesus allegedly invited to stay with him in his mansion
is the mere figment of Hagey's over active imagination. Now,
and the very passage that he cites makes it clear
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that far from inviting a crowd to join him in
a mansion, Jesus invited two people to see where he
was staying. And in the same way the notion that
the soldiers gambled for Christ's garment because it was so valuable,
it is completely ad hoc. In reality, they cast lots
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for the garment of Christ, not only that the scripture
might be fulfilled, but because, as common sense would dictate,
one carment divided into four rags would have been of
little value to them. But even if we suppose that
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that the closet of Christ's mention was replete with more
of the same. Nor can we presume that because the
disciples had a money bag, that Jesus was a multimillion
dollar messiah. I mean, instead, the message of Jesus is
consistent and clear. It's easy for a cambel to go
through the eye of a needle than for a rich
man to enter the Kingdom of God. But this is
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not the end of it. I mean, if you look
at his teachings, they're just shameful.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Quite frankly, I'm not always home on the weekends, and
so she doesn't always attend to church. She says, yeah,
I do my Bible study, and then I listened to
John Hagy and boy, it just really is right on No, no, no, no,
I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No, it really is, and he is, I think a
very dangerous teacher. You need to test what he says
in lightest scripture and then hold fast that which is good.
And if you don't have a good working knowledge of scripture,
you can end up with all kinds of errors which
are pretty tragic. For example, John Hagey places more emphasis
on returning Jewish pilgrims to the land than in turning
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Jewish people to the Lord. He says in one of
his statement, let's put an end to this Christian chatter
that all Jews are lost and can't be in the
will of God until they convert to Christianity. And then
he takes the onus off the Jewish community places on
the Jewish christ. He says this, and I'm looking at
this quote right now, just dragged it up out of
one of my books. If Jesus refused, by his words
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or actions to claim to be Messiah to the Jews, then,
says Hagey, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting
what was never offered? So, according to hage the Jewish
people wanted Jesus to be their Messiah, but he was
absolutely refusing to be their messiah. Then he says, the
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Jews were not rejecting Jesus's messiah. It was Jesus who
was refusing to be Messiah to the Jews. Of course,
anyone who has read through the Gospels even once knows
that Jesus emphatically contradicted this notion. I mean, who can
forget the emotionally charged words of Christ. Is he's walking
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away from the temple, he says, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you
who killed the prophets and stone those sent to you.
How often I have longed to gather your children together
as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, But
you were not willing. Or you can look at John
where he says he came to that which was his own,
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but his own did not reach them. It was the
Jews who rejected Jesus, not the other way around. So
this is a guy who very commonly distorts the word
of God and teaches all kinds of error in the process,
which is very, very dangerous, particularly if you're not well grounded.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, this is very good. I really appreciate your answer,
and you're taking the time to go over this with me, Well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You got it. Thank you so much for your call.
I have written about this and referenced John Hagen a
number of different places, including Christian Chrisis twenty first century
in my book The Apocalypse Code, where I note that
those who dare question the notion of a pre tribulational
rapture followed by a Holy Land Holocaust in which the
vast majority of Jews perish are shouted down as peddlers
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of godless heresy by people like John Hagey. In fact,
the ultimate pejorative phrase has been coined for those who
do and I the heart of dispensational eschatology. They're dubbed
replacement theologians, and then are said to be guilty of
spreading the message of anti Semitism. So John Hagey, bluntly
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in his denunciation, says, replacement theologians are now carrying Hitler's
anointing and his message. And of course, at best we
can say that this is one of those issues we
can debate vigorously, we don't have to divide over. But
to use this kind of invective is disturbing to say
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the least, and I would add hage is the one
who is the replacement theologian. He believes Israel will replace
the Church as the focus of God's plan during the Tribulation.
And I would say a much better way of looking
at this is that the Church has not replaced Israel.
The Church is part of true Israel. Read first Peter two,
nine and ten. More could be said, but again, I've
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read about this in various places, including the Croclibs code.
Check it out on the web. It equipped. Or let's
go back to the phone lines, Andrew, next Saint Louis, Missouri. Hi, Andrew, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I would like to ask why was Saul so angry
at David that he wanted.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
To kill him?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, it's a good question, Andrew, and you know, the
short answer to that question is jealousy. What happened is
Saul saw that God accepted David, and he had rejected
him as the king of the land. But the reason
for that is because Saul did not genuinely have a
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heart that yearned after God. And when he saw David,
whose heart panted after God the Bible says, like a
dear pants after water, he became jealous of that love
relationship that David had with the Lord, and instead of
loving the Lord. He hated David, and he was angry
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at David. And we see that throughout the Bible, beginning
with Cain and Abel. Remember in the story in Genesis
where Cain kills his brother Abel. Why because God had
accepted Abel's sacrifice, but he did not accept Cain's sacrifice. Again,
it was the same reason. Cain's heart was really not
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turned towards the Lord. It was turned against the Lord.
And Abel's heart was turned to the Lord. And when
Cain saw the relationship between Abel and God, he was jealous,
and through that jealousy ended up killing his brother. So
the real answer to the question is he was jealous
and as a result, the spirit of God left him.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Thank you so much for your call. Let's go back
the phone lines. DOC to Marco listening in Springfield, Missouri.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Hi, Marco, Yes, Hey, Yank, I.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Have a question about I have a friend and he
is a Jehovah witness and I'm a Christian. I don't
have all the right answer, yets to properly stake this
case to him that the Wife Power organization based on
I understand it is that's really not Christianity. The way
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it's practiced.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. And I think what we have
to do in this particular case is understand the deviation
so that we can use them as springboards or opportunities
share the truth of the Gospel. The Wan Star Society,
first of all, compromises the nature of God, and they
teach in this regard the notion that the Trinity is
a freakish looking three headed God. So they take Christianity
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on at its most basic fundamental teaching with respect to
the nature of God. Again, they call the Trinity of
freakish looking three headed God invented by Satan, and they
say that Jesus is merely a God. So in their theologies,
was created by God as the archangel Michael. During his
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earthly sojourn he became merely human, and after his crucifixion
he was recreated and immaterial spirit creature. They also deny
the physical resurrection of Jesus, and it keeps going from
bad to worse. Under the threat of being this fellowship,
Jehovah's witnesses are barred from celebrating holidays. Even more troubling,
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our Watchtower regulations regarding vaccinations, organ transplants, blood transfusions, all
of which are based on faulty teachings and faulty authority.
And again, what is critical in this case is to
know that the Bible is the authority by which we
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can legitimately test all things, because we can demonstrate the
Bible to be divine as opposed to merely human in origin.
Out of time for this edition of the broadcast, we
look forward to seeing you right back here next time
with more of your questions.
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