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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thank you very much for ranty and listener right to
our phone callers. First step is Timmy listening in Saint Louis, Missouri. Hi, Tammy, Hi,
how are you? I'm good? Thank you good good.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, we really appreciate your ministry and and just thank
you for taking my call. And the question that we've
been kind of pondering lately and is in regards to
small groups. We just started a new small group at
our church and we're studying Genesis and kind of the
Bible basics, uh, basically, and and we one of the
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questions in this in the Bible study was do you
believe that the creation as it states in the Bible
is accurate? And one of the couple that are in
our group basically started talking about evolution, and they said, well,
how do you know that you know that we really
weren't from I mean, we that evolution wasn't really the case,
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and that you know, whenever God spoke of creation, because
there wasn't science and all that kind of stuff that
you know, Moses, because people wouldn't understand anything about evolution,
he just said, you know, God created me, and basically
that evolution could have been the case. And you know,
we just eventually we began as monkeys and we became
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people and humans, and it's just not explained thoroughly, I
guess in the book of Genesis. So that kind of
threw up some red flags with us. But I just
wanted to kind of get your opinion about that, and
I also had a second part of that question.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
But I'll let you you know, well, yeah, the Biblical
account of creation specifically states that God created living creatures
according to their own kinds. That's what Genesis one tells us,
and that's confirmed by science. The DNA for a fetus
is not the DNA for a frog, and the DNA
for a frog is not the DNA for a fish.
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Each is uniquely programmed for reproduction after its own kind.
And therefore, while scripture and science allow for microevolution or
transitions within the kinds, does not allow for macro evolution
an amiba evolving into an astronaut. And not only that,
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but I would say this evolution is the cruelest, most
inefficient system for creation that one could possibly think of.
In fact, there was a Nobel Prize winning evolutionist, Jacques Manaud,
who said that the struggle for life and the elimination
of the weakest was a horrible process against which our
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whole modern ethic revolts, And then he said that he
was surprised that Christians would defend the idea that this
is the process which God more or less set up
in order to have evolution. And one final point would be,
from my perspective, theistic evolution is a contradiction in terms,
it's like talking about flaming snowflakes. God can no more
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direct an undirected process than he can create a squared circle.
And yet that's precise what theistic evolution presupposes, and I
would say, rather than prop up evolution when it's fighting
for its very life, I think thinking people everywhere should
be on the vanguard of demonstrating its demise. It simply
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does not correspond to the age of scientific lightment in
which we live. The Cambrian explosion, for example, is uprooted
Darwin's tree of life.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Okay, all right, well, yeah, I really appreciate your time,
and thank you, and have a great weekend. And God
bless you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
God bless you as well. Back to the phone lines.
We'll talk next to Ben in Elitha, Kansas. Hi.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Ben, Oh my gosh, this is just awesome. I love you, Hank,
longtime listener, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Thank you appreciate that so much.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, so, I think I've even probably heard you answer
this before. But Jes the other night had kind of
a discussion with a friend over, you know, kind of
a conversation over something else, and he went into how
the LBS people there good people, and I didn't fight that.
But we were talking about praying and I said, you know,
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I'll pray about that, and he and he was saying
how how he would pray about it to Jesus too,
and I and I mentioned Jesus our one and only God,
or only or one or only Lord and Savior, and
and and that's when I said, I mentioned, that's you know,
that's the only difference between the l S and Christians.
And he said, no, that's where you're wrong. See, you
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don't know anything. And so I wanted to know how
to point out some of the really basic natures of
why it's more, I think a cult rather than a
Christianity without without you know, button heads or arguing too much.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I think what's important is to deal with the
main in the plain things. With respect to Mormonism, Mormonism
separated itself from Christianity with its very founding. It was
birthed in eighteen twenty by an alleged vision in which
two celestial personages appeared to Joseph Smith and then claimed
that all existing churches were wrong and that all their
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creeds were an abomination, and not only that, but all
their professors were corrupt. And then, according to these personages,
Smith had been chosen to restore, not reform by the way,
but restore a church that had disappeared from the face
of the earth, and the Mormon doctrines that evolved from
this vision actually end up compromising, confusing, or contradicting the
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nature of God, the authority of scripture, and the way
of salvation. So this is not some small tangential thing.
This is a compromise in a contradiction of the essentials
of the historic Christian faith. For example, Christians believe that
God is spirit, but Joseph Smith taught that God himself
was once as we are now and is an exalted
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man who sits enthroned in yonder heavens. They also hold
to a plurality of gods and then contend that as
man is, God once was, and as God is, Man
may become. I mean, I would say that's a pretty
substantive difference. Not only that, but they compromise the nature
of the God man Jesus Christ, because in Christianity, Jesus
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is the self existent creator of all things, but in
Mormonism he's the spirit brother of Lucifer, who was conceived
in heaven by a celestial mother and then came in
flesh as the direct result of the Father having sex
with the virgin Mary. So there are many things that
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we would point to, including the operative question what is
your authority, They would say, not the Bible, but the
Book of Mormon is the most correct of any book
on Earth and the keystone to their religion. And then
you look at their view of what eternity is like, well,
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virtually everyone qualifies for heaven, even the world's violence people
make it into their celestial hen which is far better
than the current earth. Lukewarm Mormons and religious people, and
those who accept the Mormon gospel in the spirit world
will they enter the terrestrial heaven. And only temple Mormons
make it to the celestial heaven, and only those who
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are sealed in secret temple rituals make it to the
third level of the celestial Kingdom and then become gods
of their own planets. So that's why I say there
are doctrinal perversions that exclude Mormonism from rightly being called Christian.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Okay, that was really good, thank you. So would I've
looked at a couple of verses as opposed to their verses,
and it looks like they've changed minor words, like some
verbs here and there, and so what would be a
really good verse, just one or two verses that I
could sit down and read with them and show them why.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, I think one of the key issues is who
is Jesus Christ rist Is he unique or is he
the Jesus Christ of Mormonism. In Christianity, Jesus is unique.
He's the one who spoke in the universe leapt into existence,
so he is not someone who came into existence at
a point in time, and certainly he is not the
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spirit brother of Lucifer. But even beyond that, I think
that what we have to look at is what is
the ultimate authority for faith? In practice, we say it
is the Bible, and we can demonstrate that the Bible
is rooted in history and evidence, and therefore we can
invoke Two Timothy three sixteen. But if you look at
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the Book of Mormon, it turns out that both anthropology
and archaeology have completely undressed it as being bogus. So
while they claim it to be their authority, I think
that what we have to do is demonstrate that the
Bible is in fact the infallible repositor of redemptive revelation
and corresponds to reality. The people places, in particulars that
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populate the Biblical text. You can find evidence and history
to back up. You can't find the same thing to
be true about the Jaredites and the Lamanites and the
nephytes of the Book of Mormon.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Hey, well, that's really good information. I appreciate it. I'll
study it up and try to deal with this in
a non confrontational way. I really appreciate your ministry and
everything you do, and we just love you out here
in Oleifa.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
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We don't want to repel, we want to reach in
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Thank you about for Randy, and let's go right back to
the phone lines. Talk to April and Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Hi, April, Hi, Hank, I have a question. Hank I
was just recently diagnosed with a recurrence of cancer, and
I am praying to the Lord about that for healing. However,
it did strike me that I'm wondering if it's unbiblical
to petition the Lord over and over for healing, or
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if I should just trust and leave it that the
Lord is working on.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That well, April, if you have a real desire to
be healed, as I'm certain that you have, I think
it's perfectly legitimate to petition the Lord for healing. But
I would always suppend the world words nevertheless, not my will,
but thy will be done. You see a snapshot in time,
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God sees the panoply of your life. In fact, in
Psalm one point thirty nine, he says that all the
days ordained for you were written in his book before
even one of them came to be. And so there's
not a single hair that's going to fall from your
head that he doesn't know about and he doesn't care about.
And Christianity ultimately doesn't give us a peaceful way to
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come to terms with the kinds of difficulties that you're
experiencing physically, it does ultimately give us the hope of resurrection.
So all of us are going to die, all of
us are going to suffer. But the fact of the
matter is we look forward to a time in which
there'll be no more death, mourning, crying, or pain, for
the old order things has passed away. But I would
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definitely petition the Lord please heal me. And the reason
I would is because I have a lot of kids.
I feel my kids need me around, and so I
would definitely be praying for that. I feel like I
still have unfinished business in terms of writing and ministry
for the Lord, and therefore I would ask the Lord that.
But I'd also recognize that God knows far better than
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I do, and therefore I'd in the process realize that
prayer is not so much to get our particular needs fulfilled,
but rather to develop a relationship with the love of
her soul, who will spend eternity with.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Yes, well, that's very helpful, Hank, I thank you so
much for that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, April, may God give you peace in the midst
of this storm. Amen, May I pray for you. Yes, Father,
thank you for April for her very obvious trust in you. Lord.
You don't answer the why question every time, but you
do teach us to trust you in the midst of
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our wives. I pray Lord that you would give Abe
a piece that literally does pass all understanding. Father, I
pray that her testimony might be incredible in terms of
touching people. Lord, use even this as you have promised
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for your good and glory. Not only for your good
and glory, but for ours as well, For you have
promised that all things work together for good to those
who love you and are the called according to your purposes. Father,
May you make your will and your way evident to April.
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And Lord again, we pray that you would be the
balm of Gilead in her life. May her relationship with
you become ever dear and near as a result of
this exigency. We pray this in the precious name of
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Amen, Amen, Hank. I will continue to pray for you
in your ministry.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank you so much, April, and we'll be thinking about you.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Thank you so much, bless you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I want to go back to the phone lines. We'll
talk to Amy in Elitha, Kansas. Hi Ami, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I just wanted to tell you that I'm a first
time caller. I've been listening to you for about a
year now, and I found you on my long drive
to work. So you've been a blessing in my life
ever since I found you, So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You got it.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I just have a question for you. It kind of
has two parts that it centers around euthanizing a pet,
and you know, first the first part is, you know,
my husband and I felt that the need to euthanize
our cat after diagnosed with kidney failure, and we were
given a choice by our vet that, you know, we
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could go through an expensive treatment that may or may
not help him, or we can have a muse and
and we chose to just euthanize them and not put
them through that. And my second part is that my
sister is contemplating euthanizing her dog that is very old
and who's in a lot of pain and discomfort and
having a lot of coughing cells. So I'm kind of
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wondering if you know this falls under the tink commandments
of thou shall not murder or does that not apply
to euthanizing our pets? And I want to get your
thoughts on there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, I don't think it applies to euthanizing our pets,
but what does apply is the Biblical principle that we
are to be stewards of all of the creation, and
therefore we should treat all of that which God has
placed before us with dignity and respect. And that certainly
applies to animals. But let me say something about animals suffering.
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There's a growing body of scientific evidence that indicates that
animals like dogs and cats, do experience pain, but they
do not experience the awareness of being in pain. So
animals don't suffer pain in the same way that human
beings suffer pain. I think that's actually good news for
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animal lovers.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Well, it's just it's been something that's been bothering me,
and I felt guilty about it and just wanted to
know your thoughts on that. And I'm just hoping that
I can kind of guide my sister and helping her
make a white decision with her dog.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you have this kind of
care for animals. A lot of people don't recognize that
these are a big part in God's often guard creative
process and that they will inherit eternal life, which is
to say that just as this universe, which now groans
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in travail, will be liberated from its bondage to decay.
So too, it will be that in Paradise restored, their
will be what once was. In Paradise. Paradise was populated
by trees and by animals, and therefore we should not
just suppose that there be trees in the restored universe,
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but also that there will be animals. Now, we don't
know exactly what the new heavens and the new Earth
will look like. We have to be candid about that.
There's only inference. But what we do know is that
this universe that is growing and travailed will be liberated.
So out of the womb of this earth will come
a new heaven at a new Earth where in dwells righteousness.
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And we would suppose that what Adam and Eve experienced
with animals prior to the time that sin invaded the planet,
we will re experience in a new heaven and a
new Earth wherein dwell's righteousness.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
And do you feel our pets have souls and that
we will see them again in heaven?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
They do have souls. Now, we don't know whether petted
pets we will see in heaven. The Bible doesn't tell
us that, but there's nothing to preclude that possibility. And
when I say animals have souls, I think that is
demonstratably true. It wasn't until the Enlightenment that people thought otherwise.
But the soul of an animal is qualitatively different from
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the soul of a human being, and I think that's
very important to recognize. I would also point out that
some of the keenest thinkers, from C. S. Lewis to
Peter Kraft, are not only convinced that animals in general,
but that pets in particularly will be restored in the resurrection.
And so if God did resurrect our pets, it would
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be in total keeping with his overwhelming grace and goodness.
I want to go back to the phone lines and
talk to Jonathan in San Francisco, California. Hi, Jonathan, good her?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Are you good?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
I have a question. I'm me and we're going to
get married pretty soon. And my family, we're Pentecostal Christians.
My dad as a pastor and you know, basits in
church services. I was small and so I grew up
you know, with like like a lot, like knowing what's
good and bad and you know what's sinful, what's worldly.
But like my fiance, I guess her she's Christian also,
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and our souls her family, but they're like a different
I guess her Baptist or a different dembnomination or I
don't know what, but they are, but like they they
kind of like they when we're sitting up for our
weddings that they're asking my fiance, like if we're gonna
have dancing, and if we're gonna have wine, and if
we're gonna have like anything to drink like beverages like beer,
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And I'm me and my my whole side of the family,
we're all against that because we know that's not the Bible.
But like what what what?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Like?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
What can I say her? Because I did try to
talk to them about that, but then they would always
respond by saying that Jesus drank wine.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, I mean, I think that the biblical edict is
against getting drunk, it's not against drinking wine. For example,
if you look at Proverbs chapter twenty week, see that
wine is a mocker and beer or brawler, and whoever's
led astray by them is not wise. Or Provers twenty three,
where Solomon says, listen, my son, to be wise and
set your heart on the right path. Do not join
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those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat.
And what he's doing there is he's demonstrating that we
should in fact take good care of both the metaphysical
and the physical aspects of our humanity. And of course
Paul does the same thing. The New Testament would be
very careful. Then how you live not is unwise, but
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is wise, making the most of every opportunity because the
days are evil. Therefore, do not be foolish, but understand
what the Lord's will is. So don't get drunk on wine,
which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the spirit. Again,
the point is, don't get drunk. Paul, of course tells
Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach, even
from a medicinal perspective. So wine can be a blessing,
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but it can also be misused, leading to drunkenness or worse.
The very clear teaching a scripture again is that we
should be good stewards aboth the physical and the metaphysical
aspects of our humanity. We are out of time for
this edition of the Bible Anserman Broadcast, so long for now.
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But our Lord warned that while the gate to Hell
is wide, the road to it broad, and those who
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