June 20, 2024 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (06/20/24), Hank shares his thoughts on the article “Tomorrow’s Theology” by the late Reverend Edwin Walhout of the Christian Reformed Church, who claimed that Darwin’s theory of biological evolution is an established fact, thus there was no historical Adam and Eve.
Hank also answers the following questions:
What happens after death? Are we asleep? Larry - Long Beach, CA (15:13)
How can we reach homosexuals without ostracizing them? Ralph - Albuquerque, NM (17:00)
What is the first resurrection described in Revelation chapter 20? Tyler - Norman, OK (19:49)
Should we baptize people in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, or in the name of Jesus only? Wayne - Tipton, MO (21:07)
Hank also answers the following questions:
What happens after death? Are we asleep? Larry - Long Beach, CA (15:13)
How can we reach homosexuals without ostracizing them? Ralph - Albuquerque, NM (17:00)
What is the first resurrection described in Revelation chapter 20? Tyler - Norman, OK (19:49)
Should we baptize people in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, or in the name of Jesus only? Wayne - Tipton, MO (21:07)
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Broadcasting across the United States, Canada, and around the world. This is
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eight seven thousand CRI, or goonline to equip dot org. That's equip
dot org. The following program waspre recorded to start today's Bible answer Man
Broadcast. Here's your host, HankCanagraph. Thank you much. Randy want
to draw everybody's attention to an articletitled Tomorrow's Theology. It's written by the
(00:54):
Reverend Edwin Walhout and he says inthe article that new insights and new doctrinal
formulations will replace those that we nowtreasure. And he goes on to say
in the article that he wouldn't besurprised if a thousand years from now,
or even in five hundred years fromnow, people will look back at our
(01:18):
cherished doctrines and then exclaim, howcould they believe all of that? And
what of our treasured doctrines does ReverendWalhoudt have in mind? Well, he
thinks Darwin's theory of biological evolution isestablished fact and that its inexorable implications for
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the interpretation of Scripture are that therewas no historical Adam and Eve, that
there was no temptation, and thereforethere was no yielding to temptation. And
he concludes, if Adam and Eveare not understood as real historical people,
then there can hardly be an inheritanceof sinfulness from parent to child all the
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way back to Adam, in whichcase the entire doctrine of original sin falls
by the wayside. Now, thissupposed Orthodox Calvinist pastor calls into question our
most cherished beliefs. In fact,he further explains that if the doctrine of
original sin needs to be revisited,theologians need to consider whether our understanding of
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Jesus also needs to be revisited.Now, of course, that begs the
question was there really a historical Adamand Eve? In Walhoud's view, science
has dictated that modern humans emerged fromprimates one hundred thousand or so years ago
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in a population numbering some ten thousand, not two. And he's in the
article is defending Darwinian evolution. Butthe question is why does Darwinian evolution really
correspond to reality, and I wouldsay the answer is null, and a
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reverend in the Christian Reformed denomination livingin an age of scientific enlightenment ought to
know that Darwin hung his hopes onhundreds of thousands of transitional forms leading to
the fossils of the Cambrian explosion.In actuality, the poverty of the fossil
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record has been an embarrassment to evolution. Virtually all known body plans appear abruptly
in the Cambrian To put it quitebluntly, the Cambrian radiation vaporize the Darwinian
tree of life. Furthermore, Ithink it's important to note that scripture plainly
opposes the collective rhetoric of thetheistic evolutionistswho deny the reality of the historical atom
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and a historical eve. And Paulmakes that crystal clear from one man,
God made every nation of men thatthey should inhabit the whole earth. In
fact, sacred Scripture, in concertwith sound science, makes plain that kinds
reproduce according to their kinds, andhad the first atom not fallen into a
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life of perpetual sin terminated by death, there would be no need for God
to send a second Atom or tosend Jesus Christ. And Paul is emphatic
on this point. He says,since death came through a man, the
resurrection of the dead comes also througha man. For as an atom all
die, so in Christ all wouldbe made alive. And there's a final
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point that we should not miss here, which is that our Saviour's words actually
cast a pall on all. Adamand Eve deny like this, Reverend walhout
what did Jesus say? He saidat the beginning, the Creator made them
male and female. Unless one betempted to allegorize the words of our Lord,
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it is instructive to note that Jesusfurther affirmed a historical Adam and Eve
when he referred to the murder oftheir son Abel. And that's not all.
Luke, writing to a primarily gentileaudience, extends his genealogy past Abraham
to the first Atom. In thatway, of course, he highlights Christ,
the second Atom, is the saviorof all humanity, and should that
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prove insufficient, Chronicles provides a historicalrecord from Adam to the exile. Likewise,
starting at Genesis five, Moses givesthe written account of Adam's line,
so of one thing we could beabsolutely certain. Though Genesis is historical narrative
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interlaced with Jewish poetry, it ishardly something that we can allegorize. Now.
There are so many problems with aperson like Reverend Walhout taking the position
that he's taking with respect to Darwinianevolution, not the least of which is
that if he is right, thenracism becomes a very distinct possibility. The
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unfit have to die so that thefittest can survive. Ultimately, there are
higher and lower life forms, andeven in the evolution to where we are
right now, there were then lowerforms. The racist implications of that are
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breathtaking. And why buy into thatkind of paradigm to begin with when science
clearly is not on its side.What is on its side is a lock
step political correctness that now a pastorof a prestigious evangelical denomination is forwarding where
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she yet the oracle of that denominationis forwarding. Quite frankly, all of
this is an abomination. It's onething for neo Darwinians like Richard Dawkins to
make these kinds of statements. Itis quite another for a quote evangelical to
make these kinds of statements, theimago day for someone like Dawkins is little
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more than a troublesome myth. Assuch, a human being has no more
intrinsic value than a banana. Noris humanity the crowning jewel of God's creation.
In time will a far more sophisticatedlife form will supplant humankind courtesy of
the evolutionary paradigm. So as hippostransitioned into wales, humans are going to
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inevitably transition into whatever. The factthat there is scant fossil evidence for this
fundamentalist fervor, of course, seemsof little consequence. Nor is molecular evidence
to the contrary a stumbling block.His mind has been darkened, and therefore
he blindly swallows an ocean skin becomesimpermetable to water. Eye protection mechanisms appear
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like magic, as do changes inthe brain, diving in emerging mechanisms,
or respiratory system that prevents the bends, and a lactation system sonar, and
it goes on and on. Indeed, Dawkins, enabmired by reason without revelation,
has long ago departed the world asscience and waded into the illusory land
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to science fiction. The problem forDawkins is that reason without revelation has left
him impotent in the quest to readthe book of Nature for all its worth,
and likewise he is ill equipped toread God's book of Knowledge for all
its worth. His fundamentalist reading ascripture is simply breathtaking, failing to recognize
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that scripture is inspired literature, butliterature. Nonetheless, he persists in pressing
the language of the Biblical text intoa wooden literal labyrinth. Even worse,
he perpetuates the false dichotomy between faithand reason. But it's one thing for
Dawkins to do this, But whya quote evangelical now taking the entire fabric
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of our faith and unraveling it.Because he is part now of the fundamentalist
fervor that's so potently displayed in Westernscience and truth. Western civilization was born
out of a reasonable faith, andbecause that is so, It's revelations rightfully
illumine and elucidate human reason. Butrevelation, encapsule within its pages lead us
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beyond the darkness of this imago Darwin, the image of Darwin, to the
dignity of the image of God.We are created in the image of God,
not in the image of chimpanzees oranimals. And were there scientific evidence
for that, it would be onething. But here you have two faults.
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You not only misread the Bible,but you misread the Book of Nature.
And that in an age of scientificenlightenment, tragic that now becomes the
calling card for Christians. It isdisturbing, and this is one of the
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a reason for the hope that lieswithin us, with gentleness and with
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to the Bible answer Man broadcast andyour host and canagraph. Let's go right
to the phone lines. A loveyou hanging on first Larry long Beach,
California. Hi, Larry, Hey, good, Thank you good. My
question is I'm doing a study onas believers when we die, what exactly
happens to us. The two popularviews is absent from the body present with
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the Lord and some also say thatwe sleep in Christ. So my question
is if you even look back inthe Old Testament where I think Elaja was
caught up into a whirlwind and wentinto heaven. But then Jesus says,
no one has ascended into heaven.So I'm trying to put these scriptures together.
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How do you tie the scriptures inwhen one is saying that, and
then in conclusion, absent from thebody to me doesn't clearly say that you're
in heaven, and it just saysthat as from the body present with the
Lord, because I believe the dayI'm present with the Lord. So people
always use as scriptures to said,well, you're in heaven when you're after
from the body. But I meana scripture doesn't clearly indicate that, well,
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heaven is being with the Lord.I mean, that's the whole point.
That's what it means to be inParadise or Abraham's bosom. It is
to be in fellowship with God.But the Bible speaks of the body asleep
in death, never speaks of thesoul asleep in death. The New Testament
unambiguously communicates that the soul continues tohave awareness though the body has died.
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Perhaps the greatest example of that soI died in the whole of the New
Testament would be Luke chapter sixteen,where Jesus tells the parable of a rich
man and a beggar who die physicallyyet experience conscious awareness in the intermediate state.
So again, I think that thewhole notion of soul sleep is unbiblical.
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I've written about this and after life. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Ralph in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Hi, Ralph,
Hi, how you doing it?Sir? I'm doing well. How are
you? I'm doing great? Andso I've been living overseas for four years
and they came and recently moved backto the States. And one of the
things that's been kind of perplex inme is there appears to be it's how
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to deal with homosexual is not notin terms of homosexuality specifically, but in
sin in general, and in termsof there seems to be a movement to
to go out and ostracize the sinnerfor the sin and not first address the
relationship with God first. My thoughtprocess is, if somebody is a homosexual
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and you stop that practice and theystill have no relationship with God, and
you really haven't accomplished anything for attorney. And it seems to me, based
on you know, the influx thatI'm getting being back in the States,
that the folks is on that actand not on well let's get you know,
let's focus on a white relationship withthat. Well, you know,
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I like your thought process, butlet me just make a couple of comments
about it to maybe refine it,just to hear. First of all,
when you say if someone is ahomosexual, I think implied in that,
whether intended or not, is thenotion that homosexuality is an identity. And
I don't think it's an identity,it's a behavior. Secondly, if you
deal with it by dealing with itlovingly, then you are one who will
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suggest that physiologically there is damage thatcan be done, just as there is
psychological damage that can be done.So it is a spiritual issue ultimately,
because as you rightly say, youknow how you think, what you believe
will alter how you behave and againthis is a behavior. So I think
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your thought process is good. Butyou can still help people even if it
isn't a belief matter from the standpointof physiology, because I don't think it
takes an advanced degree in physiology torecognize that the body is not made for
same sex relationships. And as I'vesaid many times on the broadcast, homosexuality
requires a person to contradict their ownbiology, as though God is playing some
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kind of a cruel joke on themby creating their minds and emotions for attraction
to same sex sexuality, and yetcreating their bodies in direct opposition to that
attraction. The bottom line, Ithink, though, is that we have
to show the kind of love thatyou're manifesting in the prologue to the question,
which is to say that we shouldn'tostracize anyone. What we should do
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is reach out with reason rather thanrepelling by being offensive. Back to our
phone callers, Tyler is next listeningin Norman, Oklahoma. Hi Tyler,
Hi, how are you doing good? Thank you good, Thanks for taking
my call. I just had aquick question to preface it. Like yourself,
I'm not a premillennialist, but Iwas wondering how you answer the objection
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that they sometimes bring up about thenature of the First Resurrection in Revolution twenty
and the Greek word and its commonusage. Just how would you kind of
address that. Yeah, well,you know, the first resurrection I think
is the resurrection of Jesus Christ.And therefore John says, blessed and holy
are those who have part in thefirst resurrection what we share in the resurrection
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of Jesus Christ. Whereas Paul putit, we are partakers in Christ's resurrection,
having been buried with him in baptismand raised with him through your faith
in the power of God who raisedChrist from the dead. So christ resurrection
is the quintessential resurrection, and weparticipate in his resurrection through baptism, and
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we now walk in newness of life. And I think that is precisely why
the first resurrection is contrasted with thesecond death. Want to go back to
the phone lines. We'll talk nextto Wayne listening in Tipton, Missouri.
Hi. Wayne, Hi, hechaus As we're talking to you in you
as well. My question is I'ma non denominational, just a sicker of
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truth Christian. But I read inMatthew twenty eight nineteen where Jesus said to
go baptize in the name of thefalling Son the Holy Spirit. Can I
read five times in the Book ofActs where they baptized in Jesus' name.
They never said that. My questionis to you, would I be wrong
if I baptize people calling on thename of the Father and the Son in
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the Holy Spirit and then saying thatname is Jesus Guy, Well, words
are equivocal, not unifical. Andwhat I mean by that is it all
depends on what you mean. Itis true that you need to baptize in
the name of the God who hasrevealed himself in scripture, and that God
is one God revealed in three personswho are eternally distinct. So if you're
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baptizing in the name of Jesus,what that means is to be baptized on
the basis of your belief in hisdeath, is burial, and his resurrection.
The problem, however, is thatthere are denominations, like one is
Pentecostalism, that believe that you haveto be baptized only in the name of
Jesus. And that is because intheir view, Jesus is himself, the
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Father, the Son, and theHoly Spirit. In their view, there
is one God who reveals himself indifferent modes or manifestations, and that's not
biblical at all. So they don'thold to one God revealed in three persons
who eternally distinct, but again tothree manifestations of one God revealed in Jesus.
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And therefore, from their perspective,the doctrine of the trinity is pagan
polytheistic philosophy, not a biblical theology. Now, trinity is not found in
the Bible. But trinity is justa word that we used to codify what
you find in the Bible. Whatdo we find in the Bible, or
the Bible is militantly monotheistic. There'sonly one God. And yet when you
read through the Bible, the Bibleis clear that the Father's God, the
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Son is God, the Holy Spiritis God, and further clear in saying
that Father, Son and Holy Spiritare eternally distinct. So what do we
do with that? Well, webow our need before God's revelation of himself
to us in scripture and say,well, there is one God revealed in
three persons, eternally distinct, andrecognize that to be a mystery, but
not a contradiction, because if Iwere to say there's one God in three
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gods, it'd be contradicting myself quiteobviously. But that's not what the Bible
is saying. The Bible is sayingthere's one what in three? Who's one
God with respect to his nature,three with respect to identity, formed and
completed on the basis of relationships withinthe Godhead, Father, Son, and
Holy Spirit. Okay, well,doing my question then would be when Jesus
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said, I came in my Father'sname, and anything you ask the hole
ghost in my name, he willdo. What do you get out of
that? Well, yeah, Imean I think that we can plead the
name of Jesus Christ and that theFather, who is in harmony one in
purpose and will with the Son,will give us what we request. And
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that's why Jesus could say, ifyou've seen me, you've seen the Father,
not that he is the Father,because obviously when he prays to the
Father is not praying to himself.So in terms of the will and purpose
of God, they are in completeunity. Obviously, Jesus being God in
the incarnation, Jesus does not divesthimself of a single attribute of deity,
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but he takes on the limitations ofhumanity. Well, do you believe that
Jesus was fully God and fully manat the same time, then yeah,
he's one person with two natures,one hundred percent divine and one hundred percent
human. Use all right, okay, well first a lot a for sure,
you got it. And by theway, one is Pentecostalism also holds
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rebaptism by their formula with evidence ofspeaking in tongues. No tongues, no
salvation, and you can well imaginethat that has placed tremendous social psychological pressure
on adherence to conjure up the giftof tongues, because those who do not
speak in tongues are thought to belacking in faith or even to be entirely
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eight seven thousand CRI, or goonline to equip dot org. That's equip
dot org. The following program waspre recorded to start today's Bible answer Man
Broadcast. Here's your host, HankCanagraph. Thank you much. Randy want
to draw everybody's attention to an articletitled Tomorrow's Theology. It's written by the
(00:54):
Reverend Edwin Walhout and he says inthe article that new insights and new doctrinal
formulations will replace those that we nowtreasure. And he goes on to say
in the article that he wouldn't besurprised if a thousand years from now,
or even in five hundred years fromnow, people will look back at our
(01:18):
cherished doctrines and then exclaim, howcould they believe all of that? And
what of our treasured doctrines does ReverendWalhoudt have in mind? Well, he
thinks Darwin's theory of biological evolution isestablished fact and that its inexorable implications for
(01:40):
the interpretation of Scripture are that therewas no historical Adam and Eve, that
there was no temptation, and thereforethere was no yielding to temptation. And
he concludes, if Adam and Eveare not understood as real historical people,
then there can hardly be an inheritanceof sinfulness from parent to child all the
(02:06):
way back to Adam, in whichcase the entire doctrine of original sin falls
by the wayside. Now, thissupposed Orthodox Calvinist pastor calls into question our
most cherished beliefs. In fact,he further explains that if the doctrine of
original sin needs to be revisited,theologians need to consider whether our understanding of
(02:32):
Jesus also needs to be revisited.Now, of course, that begs the
question was there really a historical Adamand Eve? In Walhoud's view, science
has dictated that modern humans emerged fromprimates one hundred thousand or so years ago
(02:53):
in a population numbering some ten thousand, not two. And he's in the
article is defending Darwinian evolution. Butthe question is why does Darwinian evolution really
correspond to reality, and I wouldsay the answer is null, and a
(03:17):
reverend in the Christian Reformed denomination livingin an age of scientific enlightenment ought to
know that Darwin hung his hopes onhundreds of thousands of transitional forms leading to
the fossils of the Cambrian explosion.In actuality, the poverty of the fossil
(03:37):
record has been an embarrassment to evolution. Virtually all known body plans appear abruptly
in the Cambrian To put it quitebluntly, the Cambrian radiation vaporize the Darwinian
tree of life. Furthermore, Ithink it's important to note that scripture plainly
opposes the collective rhetoric of thetheistic evolutionistswho deny the reality of the historical atom
(04:04):
and a historical eve. And Paulmakes that crystal clear from one man,
God made every nation of men thatthey should inhabit the whole earth. In
fact, sacred Scripture, in concertwith sound science, makes plain that kinds
reproduce according to their kinds, andhad the first atom not fallen into a
(04:28):
life of perpetual sin terminated by death, there would be no need for God
to send a second Atom or tosend Jesus Christ. And Paul is emphatic
on this point. He says,since death came through a man, the
resurrection of the dead comes also througha man. For as an atom all
die, so in Christ all wouldbe made alive. And there's a final
(04:49):
point that we should not miss here, which is that our Saviour's words actually
cast a pall on all. Adamand Eve deny like this, Reverend walhout
what did Jesus say? He saidat the beginning, the Creator made them
male and female. Unless one betempted to allegorize the words of our Lord,
(05:11):
it is instructive to note that Jesusfurther affirmed a historical Adam and Eve
when he referred to the murder oftheir son Abel. And that's not all.
Luke, writing to a primarily gentileaudience, extends his genealogy past Abraham
to the first Atom. In thatway, of course, he highlights Christ,
the second Atom, is the saviorof all humanity, and should that
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prove insufficient, Chronicles provides a historicalrecord from Adam to the exile. Likewise,
starting at Genesis five, Moses givesthe written account of Adam's line,
so of one thing we could beabsolutely certain. Though Genesis is historical narrative
(05:56):
interlaced with Jewish poetry, it ishardly something that we can allegorize. Now.
There are so many problems with aperson like Reverend Walhout taking the position
that he's taking with respect to Darwinianevolution, not the least of which is
that if he is right, thenracism becomes a very distinct possibility. The
(06:24):
unfit have to die so that thefittest can survive. Ultimately, there are
higher and lower life forms, andeven in the evolution to where we are
right now, there were then lowerforms. The racist implications of that are
(06:45):
breathtaking. And why buy into thatkind of paradigm to begin with when science
clearly is not on its side.What is on its side is a lock
step political correctness that now a pastorof a prestigious evangelical denomination is forwarding where
(07:12):
she yet the oracle of that denominationis forwarding. Quite frankly, all of
this is an abomination. It's onething for neo Darwinians like Richard Dawkins to
make these kinds of statements. Itis quite another for a quote evangelical to
make these kinds of statements, theimago day for someone like Dawkins is little
(07:35):
more than a troublesome myth. Assuch, a human being has no more
intrinsic value than a banana. Noris humanity the crowning jewel of God's creation.
In time will a far more sophisticatedlife form will supplant humankind courtesy of
the evolutionary paradigm. So as hippostransitioned into wales, humans are going to
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inevitably transition into whatever. The factthat there is scant fossil evidence for this
fundamentalist fervor, of course, seemsof little consequence. Nor is molecular evidence
to the contrary a stumbling block.His mind has been darkened, and therefore
he blindly swallows an ocean skin becomesimpermetable to water. Eye protection mechanisms appear
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like magic, as do changes inthe brain, diving in emerging mechanisms,
or respiratory system that prevents the bends, and a lactation system sonar, and
it goes on and on. Indeed, Dawkins, enabmired by reason without revelation,
has long ago departed the world asscience and waded into the illusory land
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to science fiction. The problem forDawkins is that reason without revelation has left
him impotent in the quest to readthe book of Nature for all its worth,
and likewise he is ill equipped toread God's book of Knowledge for all
its worth. His fundamentalist reading ascripture is simply breathtaking, failing to recognize
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that scripture is inspired literature, butliterature. Nonetheless, he persists in pressing
the language of the Biblical text intoa wooden literal labyrinth. Even worse,
he perpetuates the false dichotomy between faithand reason. But it's one thing for
Dawkins to do this, But whya quote evangelical now taking the entire fabric
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of our faith and unraveling it.Because he is part now of the fundamentalist
fervor that's so potently displayed in Westernscience and truth. Western civilization was born
out of a reasonable faith, andbecause that is so, It's revelations rightfully
illumine and elucidate human reason. Butrevelation, encapsule within its pages lead us
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beyond the darkness of this imago Darwin, the image of Darwin, to the
dignity of the image of God.We are created in the image of God,
not in the image of chimpanzees oranimals. And were there scientific evidence
for that, it would be onething. But here you have two faults.
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You not only misread the Bible,but you misread the Book of Nature.
And that in an age of scientificenlightenment, tragic that now becomes the
calling card for Christians. It isdisturbing, and this is one of the
reasons it is so important for usto always be ready to give an answer,
a reason for the hope that lieswithin us, with gentleness and with
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respect. When the world seeks tounravel the fabric of Christianity, it is
one thing. But when pastors thatname the sacred name of Christ do the
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to the Bible answer Man broadcast andyour host and canagraph. Let's go right
to the phone lines. A loveyou hanging on first Larry long Beach,
California. Hi, Larry, Hey, good, Thank you good. My
question is I'm doing a study onas believers when we die, what exactly
happens to us. The two popularviews is absent from the body present with
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the Lord and some also say thatwe sleep in Christ. So my question
is if you even look back inthe Old Testament where I think Elaja was
caught up into a whirlwind and wentinto heaven. But then Jesus says,
no one has ascended into heaven.So I'm trying to put these scriptures together.
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How do you tie the scriptures inwhen one is saying that, and
then in conclusion, absent from thebody to me doesn't clearly say that you're
in heaven, and it just saysthat as from the body present with the
Lord, because I believe the dayI'm present with the Lord. So people
always use as scriptures to said,well, you're in heaven when you're after
from the body. But I meana scripture doesn't clearly indicate that, well,
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heaven is being with the Lord.I mean, that's the whole point.
That's what it means to be inParadise or Abraham's bosom. It is
to be in fellowship with God.But the Bible speaks of the body asleep
in death, never speaks of thesoul asleep in death. The New Testament
unambiguously communicates that the soul continues tohave awareness though the body has died.
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Perhaps the greatest example of that soI died in the whole of the New
Testament would be Luke chapter sixteen,where Jesus tells the parable of a rich
man and a beggar who die physicallyyet experience conscious awareness in the intermediate state.
So again, I think that thewhole notion of soul sleep is unbiblical.
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I've written about this and after life. Back to the phone lines,
we'll talk next to Ralph in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Hi, Ralph,
Hi, how you doing it?Sir? I'm doing well. How are
you? I'm doing great? Andso I've been living overseas for four years
and they came and recently moved backto the States. And one of the
things that's been kind of perplex inme is there appears to be it's how
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to deal with homosexual is not notin terms of homosexuality specifically, but in
sin in general, and in termsof there seems to be a movement to
to go out and ostracize the sinnerfor the sin and not first address the
relationship with God first. My thoughtprocess is, if somebody is a homosexual
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and you stop that practice and theystill have no relationship with God, and
you really haven't accomplished anything for attorney. And it seems to me, based
on you know, the influx thatI'm getting being back in the States,
that the folks is on that actand not on well let's get you know,
let's focus on a white relationship withthat. Well, you know,
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I like your thought process, butlet me just make a couple of comments
about it to maybe refine it,just to hear. First of all,
when you say if someone is ahomosexual, I think implied in that,
whether intended or not, is thenotion that homosexuality is an identity. And
I don't think it's an identity,it's a behavior. Secondly, if you
deal with it by dealing with itlovingly, then you are one who will
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suggest that physiologically there is damage thatcan be done, just as there is
psychological damage that can be done.So it is a spiritual issue ultimately,
because as you rightly say, youknow how you think, what you believe
will alter how you behave and againthis is a behavior. So I think
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your thought process is good. Butyou can still help people even if it
isn't a belief matter from the standpointof physiology, because I don't think it
takes an advanced degree in physiology torecognize that the body is not made for
same sex relationships. And as I'vesaid many times on the broadcast, homosexuality
requires a person to contradict their ownbiology, as though God is playing some
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kind of a cruel joke on themby creating their minds and emotions for attraction
to same sex sexuality, and yetcreating their bodies in direct opposition to that
attraction. The bottom line, Ithink, though, is that we have
to show the kind of love thatyou're manifesting in the prologue to the question,
which is to say that we shouldn'tostracize anyone. What we should do
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is reach out with reason rather thanrepelling by being offensive. Back to our
phone callers, Tyler is next listeningin Norman, Oklahoma. Hi Tyler,
Hi, how are you doing good? Thank you good, Thanks for taking
my call. I just had aquick question to preface it. Like yourself,
I'm not a premillennialist, but Iwas wondering how you answer the objection
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that they sometimes bring up about thenature of the First Resurrection in Revolution twenty
and the Greek word and its commonusage. Just how would you kind of
address that. Yeah, well,you know, the first resurrection I think
is the resurrection of Jesus Christ.And therefore John says, blessed and holy
are those who have part in thefirst resurrection what we share in the resurrection
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of Jesus Christ. Whereas Paul putit, we are partakers in Christ's resurrection,
having been buried with him in baptismand raised with him through your faith
in the power of God who raisedChrist from the dead. So christ resurrection
is the quintessential resurrection, and weparticipate in his resurrection through baptism, and
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we now walk in newness of life. And I think that is precisely why
the first resurrection is contrasted with thesecond death. Want to go back to
the phone lines. We'll talk nextto Wayne listening in Tipton, Missouri.
Hi. Wayne, Hi, hechaus As we're talking to you in you
as well. My question is I'ma non denominational, just a sicker of
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truth Christian. But I read inMatthew twenty eight nineteen where Jesus said to
go baptize in the name of thefalling Son the Holy Spirit. Can I
read five times in the Book ofActs where they baptized in Jesus' name.
They never said that. My questionis to you, would I be wrong
if I baptize people calling on thename of the Father and the Son in
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the Holy Spirit and then saying thatname is Jesus Guy, Well, words
are equivocal, not unifical. Andwhat I mean by that is it all
depends on what you mean. Itis true that you need to baptize in
the name of the God who hasrevealed himself in scripture, and that God
is one God revealed in three personswho are eternally distinct. So if you're
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baptizing in the name of Jesus,what that means is to be baptized on
the basis of your belief in hisdeath, is burial, and his resurrection.
The problem, however, is thatthere are denominations, like one is
Pentecostalism, that believe that you haveto be baptized only in the name of
Jesus. And that is because intheir view, Jesus is himself, the
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Father, the Son, and theHoly Spirit. In their view, there
is one God who reveals himself indifferent modes or manifestations, and that's not
biblical at all. So they don'thold to one God revealed in three persons
who eternally distinct, but again tothree manifestations of one God revealed in Jesus.
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And therefore, from their perspective,the doctrine of the trinity is pagan
polytheistic philosophy, not a biblical theology. Now, trinity is not found in
the Bible. But trinity is justa word that we used to codify what
you find in the Bible. Whatdo we find in the Bible, or
the Bible is militantly monotheistic. There'sonly one God. And yet when you
read through the Bible, the Bibleis clear that the Father's God, the
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Son is God, the Holy Spiritis God, and further clear in saying
that Father, Son and Holy Spiritare eternally distinct. So what do we
do with that? Well, webow our need before God's revelation of himself
to us in scripture and say,well, there is one God revealed in
three persons, eternally distinct, andrecognize that to be a mystery, but
not a contradiction, because if Iwere to say there's one God in three
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gods, it'd be contradicting myself quiteobviously. But that's not what the Bible
is saying. The Bible is sayingthere's one what in three? Who's one
God with respect to his nature,three with respect to identity, formed and
completed on the basis of relationships withinthe Godhead, Father, Son, and
Holy Spirit. Okay, well,doing my question then would be when Jesus
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said, I came in my Father'sname, and anything you ask the hole
ghost in my name, he willdo. What do you get out of
that? Well, yeah, Imean I think that we can plead the
name of Jesus Christ and that theFather, who is in harmony one in
purpose and will with the Son,will give us what we request. And
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that's why Jesus could say, ifyou've seen me, you've seen the Father,
not that he is the Father,because obviously when he prays to the
Father is not praying to himself.So in terms of the will and purpose
of God, they are in completeunity. Obviously, Jesus being God in
the incarnation, Jesus does not divesthimself of a single attribute of deity,
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but he takes on the limitations ofhumanity. Well, do you believe that
Jesus was fully God and fully manat the same time, then yeah,
he's one person with two natures,one hundred percent divine and one hundred percent
human. Use all right, okay, well first a lot a for sure,
you got it. And by theway, one is Pentecostalism also holds
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to a litany of legalistic prescriptions whichshould be mentioned, including the test of
rebaptism by their formula with evidence ofspeaking in tongues. No tongues, no
salvation, and you can well imaginethat that has placed tremendous social psychological pressure
on adherence to conjure up the giftof tongues, because those who do not
speak in tongues are thought to belacking in faith or even to be entirely
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unrepentant. We are out of timefor this edition of the Bible inspent broadcast.
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