December 12, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (12/12/25), Hank extols the sinlessness of Christ; the only one who was genuinely perfect because He was God in flesh. Hank goes on to describe Jesus’ supernatural power over nature, sickness, and even death, as well as the power to transform lives.
Hank also answers the following questions:
Is Isaiah 66:17 describing the final Judgment? Does this mean that Christians can’t eat pork? Don - OK (4:25)
What is the biblical teaching on those who died before Christ’s sacrifice on the cross? Archie - Atlanta, GA (15:59)
Could you give me some historical background on the Amish and the Mennonites? Are they considered Christian? Jo - Overland Park, KS (19:58)
Did the Apostle Paul perform a resurrection? If so, in what passage of Scripture was it recorded? Josh - Dublin, GA (23:55)
Hank also answers the following questions:
Is Isaiah 66:17 describing the final Judgment? Does this mean that Christians can’t eat pork? Don - OK (4:25)
What is the biblical teaching on those who died before Christ’s sacrifice on the cross? Archie - Atlanta, GA (15:59)
Could you give me some historical background on the Amish and the Mennonites? Are they considered Christian? Jo - Overland Park, KS (19:58)
Did the Apostle Paul perform a resurrection? If so, in what passage of Scripture was it recorded? Josh - Dublin, GA (23:55)
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Heard all across the United States, Canada, and around the world.
This is the Bible answer Man broadcast with Hank Annagraph.
Hank as President of the Christian Research Institute at CRI.
Our desire is to equip you not only to defend
the historic Christian faith, but to become a winsome witness
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(00:31):
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now here's Hank Canagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you much, Randy. Have you ever had the experience
of perhaps sitting in a meeting and listening to someone speak.
You don't really know who that person is, but you
ask someone who is that guy or who is that gal?
You're wondering who that possibly could be based on what
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they're saying, either positively or negatively. Well, you can well
imagine that that same thing was said over and over
again with respect to Jesus Christ, because he is the
only person who ever demonstrated the credential of sinlessness. John
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declares that in him is no sin. In fact, Jesus
said of himself, can any of you prove me guilty
of sin? And he there is talking to not his friends,
but his antagonists. Prove me guilty of sin. I mean,
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that's a strong statement. If someone can say they are sinless,
they are saying by virtue of that, I am more
than human. And that is precisely what Jesus Christ was.
Not only that, but think about Jesus, who demonstrated supernatural
authority over sickness, supernatural authority over the forces of nature,
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supernatural authority over fallen angels, and even death itself. Think
about Jesus Christ rebuking I mean, imagine someone rebuking the
winds and the waves, and yet they obeyed him because
he's the one who spoke and they came into existence.
(02:43):
Imagine Jesus telling a royal official whose son was close
to death, that your son is going to live. Then
you have to know the future to be able to
say something like that. The four Gospel writers all red
cord that Jesus Christ demonstrated ultimate power over this universe,
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ultimate power over death itself. Of course, that was done
through the immutable fact of the resurrection, which we as Christians,
don't believe as a function of blind faith, but rather
faith in irrefutable fact or evidence. And if you want
to see that cashed out, just go to First Corinthians,
chapter fifteen, where Paul gives a four part ironclad argument
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for that very thing. Of course, I think the greatest
testimony to Christ ultimately is seen in the lives of men,
women and children every day around the world. People of
different tongues and tribes and nations experienced the Christ that
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we celebrate at Christmas. They repented their sin, and they
receive Him as Lord and savior of their lives. And
therefore they don't only come to know about Christ evidentially,
but they come to know Christ experientially. He becomes more
real to them than the very flesh upon their bones.
(04:13):
That's what I write about on Day twelve in our
Journey to the Heart of Christmas. And this devotional for
the season is available as a gift. You can find
it on the web at equip dot org. Let's go
right to the phone lines. Talk to Don. He's listening
in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Hi Don, Hi, Hank, how are you today?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Good?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Thank you good?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
My question. I just finished with the Book of Isaiah
chapter sixty six, the last book, I think it was seventeen.
I noticed Isaiah seemed to jump around in time quite
a bit, and it seemed to me that that particular
verse was talking about the judgment of God, the last
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judgment upon the earth? Is am I right about that?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Or now? I think that is what Isaiah is doing.
This is a metaphorical picture of judgment for those who
attack the city of God. And so the language that
is used both for the hope of eternity with God
and the reality of judgment for those who oppose the
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purposes of God is given in graphic Old Testament language.
But ultimately, yes, this is about judgment, and it is
also about the hope of eternity.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
So when it talks, though it's not exactly then talking,
it's about necessarily the last judgment, but just all judgment,
like not necessarily him coming on that final.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, I do think it does point to the last judgment, certainly.
The corpses of the invaders, for example, are thrown outside
the city walls, where they decay and where they're eaten
by worms. This metaphor is expanded actually by Jesus in
Mark chapter nine is a picture of eternal punishment for
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those who do not inherit the New Jerusalem. So while
the Old Jerusalem is in view, because this is speaking
in the context of Old Testament Judaism, before the destruction
of the Temple and Jesus had not yet come, the
Old Jerusalem ultimately is not the hope. The Old Jerusalem
is but a type that points forward to Jesus and
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ultimately to a new Jerusalem coming down out of Heaven
from God prepared as a bride beautifully adorned for her husband.
And those who do not go through the gates into
the city are outside those gates, and they suffer eternal
conscious punishment. And so the Old Testament metaphors are delineating that.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So do you think that's why he used the terms
eating the flesh of swine and drinking the drink of abomination?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, absolutely yeah. And on the other hand, the picture
of the new heavens and the new Earth are given
in Old Testament graphic metaphorical language.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Okay, so he's not actually stating that it's like wrong
for a Christian to eat poor, not at.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All, not at all. Remember, there were civil and ceremonial
laws in the context of the Old Testament, they had cachet,
they had value because the substance had not yet come.
But when the substance came, they no longer had any cachet,
they longer had any value. And that's why, if you
read in Mark, Jesus says, is not what goes into
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a man's mouth and into his stomach and then out
of the man, but rather that what precedes from the heart.
And then Mark appens the words of Jesus by saying
that in saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, that's that's kind of what I thought. I just
kind of wanted to, you know, get it verified by you.
You know, I know Paul talked about it, and like,
you know, if one brother thinks it's wrong to eat pork,
then don't try to make him eat pork, you know.
But if you think it's okay, go ahead and eat it.
But if he eats it, it'll be a sin unto him.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, that's right. And you know, we also have to
take into consideration the whole notion is stumbling another brother.
And so Paul becomes all things to all men so
that he might save some. We want to do that,
which is pragmatic in terms of being able to communicate
the truth of the gospel.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Okay, okay, I have one more, just little input about
something I know you're really interesting then, and that's Darwinism.
And and I've never heard anyone really talk about this,
but just kind of wanted to put it out there
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about bees and flowers and fertilization of those flowers and
plants that it seems just it's kind of idiotic to
think that you could have bees forming through evolution if
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they could form enough bees to actually make a colony
to actually and those plants that would have to be
there to sustain the colony would have to be formed
at the exact same time in the exact same area,
and for the beasts that's the same. And also the
bees would have to evolve the exact same time the
plants evolved or otherwise during that one season, those plants
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would die. They wouldn't make it to the next year
because they would, you know, have that polonization.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, and that's just one of many examples that can
be given that pose huge conundrum for the evolutionary paradigm.
I mean, you think about the fact that the eyes
in the brain have to develop in synergistic fashion, because
the isolated development of either is not only counterproductive, it
is devastating. It simply can't work. So there are so
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many examples that explode the evolutionary paradigm in an age
of scientific enlightenment. I think the Cambrian explosion is the
death knell to Darwin's theory of evolution from a biological standpoint.
Much more could be said. I've written about that in
a flip chart, which is available through the Ministry of
the Christian Research Instident also written a book called The
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Speaker 5 (15:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Munched back to the phone lines, we talk next to
Archie listening in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Hi, Archie, Hey, Hey, how you doing. Thanks a lot.
I really appreciate everything you do. My question has to
do with the resurrection. I recally came to Christ. I
grew up with a jobah witness. So I'm having difficulty
untying one of their teachings. Those who died before Christ sacrificed.
Are they going to be resurrected at some point given
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a chance to hear the message? What's the biblical teaching
on them?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The biblical teaching is that throughout all of history people
are saved in exactly the same way, which is to
say that Abraham was saved not after he was circumcised,
but before he was circumcised. Why circumcision pointed forward in
faith to a truth, and that truth ultimately came in
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the person and work of Jesus Christ. So prior to
Jesus Christ, people look forward to Jesus Christ through types
and shadows. After Jesus Christ, those types and shadows have
been fulfilled. So we already see the substance. So the
Cross stands on the falkrm of history. Before the Cross,
people looked forward to the Cross again through types and shadows.
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After the Cross, we look back at the Cross and
we see that the one who was prefigured in those
types and shadows has come.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Thanks. But I guess my question, I do it those
that before the Cross had no knowledge or understanding of
the types of shadows.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, no they did. They didn't have full knowledge. They
didn't have the kind of clarity that we have, but
they had knowledge. So Abraham was considered a friend of God,
and he looked forward to a new home. He wasn't
addicted to this earth, a new home whose architect and
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builder was God. So he looked forward to Paradise restored,
just as Adam and Eve did. The proto evangel comes
already in Genesis chapter three. So certainly they didn't have
the clarity. And oftentimes you can look at this maybe
as walking into a room. You can kind of make
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the outline of the furniture out in the darkness. You
can kind of see this furniture there. You can't really
see what color it is, but you know it's there,
so you see dimly. But when the light is turned on,
when Christ comes, then you see everything clearly. But certainly,
no matter where you are, you're saved in the same way.
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And Paul makes this explicit. You can go to Acts
chapter seventeen where he's in the Areopagus and he says
from one man, God made every nation of men that
they should inhabit the whole earth. And then Paul says this,
he determined the exact times and places that they should live,
and did that so that men might reach out for
him and find him, though he is not far from
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each one of us. Now Paul can say that because
no matter where you are or what epic of time
you lived in, you have the light of creation. Not
only that, but God has provided a light internally, which
is the knowledge of Himself written upon the canvas of
our consciousness. He talks about that in Romans chapter two.
So if we respond to that light, we will have
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the light of Christ, either through types and shadows or
today the actual light of Christ. And I've often said this,
it's not the absence of truth that damns, it's the
despising of truth that damns. So the idea was not
that Abram had to have encyclopedic knowledge of what was
to come, but he had to believe in faith that
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God was going to provide a sacrifice, just as he
provided a sacrifice in place of Isaac.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Great. Great, Thank you so much. I appreciate all you do.
Thanks thought you got it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Thank you for your call back to the phone lines.
We'll talk next to Joe Overland Park, Kansas. Hi, Joe, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
My question is about the Amish and the Mennonites. If
you could give me a little background on what they
stand for. Are they considered Christian? Is it a sect
or a cult? And I've been reading in a book
and it says that missionary work was not part of
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the Amish way, and I was wondering how do they
lend people to Christ? And the second part of my
question is I have a friend who has been going
to a Quaker church for a couple of years and
I wanted to know is there any resk flax that
should go off that I should explain to her? And
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how do they compare to the Amish and the Mennonite.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, you know, there are certainly Amish and Mennonite and
Quakers who are not believers, but you and say that
about Presbyterians and Baptists as well. In terms of the history,
the Amish were named after Jakob Ahman, who was a
seventeenth century Swiss Mennonite, and the Mennonites themselves were named
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after Meno Simmons, who was a Dutchman like I am
a sixteenth century Dutchman. However, and the Amish were actually
a reactionary function within the Mennonite movement, with essentially an
attempt to freeze history around the seventeenth century if you
think about it, because they had a real problem with
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things like electricity and cars and buttons and all of
these kinds of things. So they were a radical Reformation movement.
They didn't think the Reformation had gone far enough in
terms of reforming, and they wanted to really withdraw from
the culture. And so some of their ways and some
of their teachings are certainly peculiar. And it comes to Quakerism.
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I have some distinct problems with the teachings of George Fox,
and I lay those out in my book counterfeit revival.
But there certainly are many Amish Mennonite Quakers who are
completely orthodox when it comes to the essentials of the
historic Christian Faith. However misguided I might think they are
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in secondary matters.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I know that they say one district may not be
like another district. Yeah, Central, Now.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I think there's a truth to that. I mean, I
don't think that they're monolithic, and you could say that
about a lot of denominations. Baptists are not monolithic, Presbyterians
are not monolithic. They're multifaceted, and I think that in
some part applies to these three closely related movements.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So as far as my girlfriend attending a Quaker church,
would you discourage that?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, I certainly have strong differences with some of Quakerism
or some of the teachings of George Fox. But the
real issue ultimately for me is essential Christian doctrine. What
are the essentials of the historic Christian Faith in essentials, unity,
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non essentials, liberty, and all things charity. Secondly, and not
in terms of second in position, but just second point
that I'm making is that they are experiencing life. There
are dead churches that have right orthodoxy, and this is
certainly true within radical Reformation movements. It's true within Reformation churches,
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it's true within non Reformation churches. So I think the
real issue is life and truth. This is what Paul
told Timothy. What your life and doctrine closely? Persevere in them,
because if you do, you'll save both yourself and your hearers.
Back to the phone lines, we'll talk next to Josh.
He's listening in Dublin. Jo Hi, Josh, Hey, miss Hank,
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how are you.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
I'm all right? How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I have a question about resurrection. We've been studying on
Wednesday nights in our church about the i Ams of Jesus,
and we were in chapter eleven where he was going
to resurrect Lazarus and says I am the resurrection. Well,
our preacher asked us if we knew of anyone else
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in the New Testament that performed the resurrection, And I said, Paul,
And he said, all right, we can't, and I can't
figure out where it was that he said it with
an act off top of his head. He didn't know
exactly where. Do you know where it's at?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, it's Acts chapter twenty, where I think Paul gets
very long winded. As a result of that, a guy
falls asleep in the middle of his dissertation and dies
and Paul raises him from the dead.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Right, that's what our preacher was telling us. But you know,
we were still in the middle of our I mean,
we could have found it, but I hadn't had time
to stop and read enough to look for it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
But ah, it's a great story and it's absolutely true.
It's a historical narrative. And again you find it in Acts,
Chapter twenty.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Acts, Chapter twenty, Letter Nike, I sort of appreciate it.
I love what you do.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Thank you, Josh, appreciate your call. Unfortunately out of time
for this edition of the Bible Instrument broadcast. Again, your
prayers and your support are deeply appreciated. So long for now.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
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Heard all across the United States, Canada, and around the world.
This is the Bible answer Man broadcast with Hank Annagraph.
Hank as President of the Christian Research Institute at CRI.
Our desire is to equip you not only to defend
the historic Christian faith, but to become a winsome witness
to a spiritually hungry but skeptical world, because life and
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truth matter. To learn more or to find resources to
help you grow in grace, call eight eight eight seven
thousand CROI or go online to equip dot org. That's
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now here's Hank Canagraph.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you much, Randy. Have you ever had the experience
of perhaps sitting in a meeting and listening to someone speak.
You don't really know who that person is, but you
ask someone who is that guy or who is that gal?
You're wondering who that possibly could be based on what
(01:12):
they're saying, either positively or negatively. Well, you can well
imagine that that same thing was said over and over
again with respect to Jesus Christ, because he is the
only person who ever demonstrated the credential of sinlessness. John
(01:34):
declares that in him is no sin. In fact, Jesus
said of himself, can any of you prove me guilty
of sin? And he there is talking to not his friends,
but his antagonists. Prove me guilty of sin. I mean,
(01:55):
that's a strong statement. If someone can say they are sinless,
they are saying by virtue of that, I am more
than human. And that is precisely what Jesus Christ was.
Not only that, but think about Jesus, who demonstrated supernatural
authority over sickness, supernatural authority over the forces of nature,
(02:22):
supernatural authority over fallen angels, and even death itself. Think
about Jesus Christ rebuking I mean, imagine someone rebuking the
winds and the waves, and yet they obeyed him because
he's the one who spoke and they came into existence.
(02:43):
Imagine Jesus telling a royal official whose son was close
to death, that your son is going to live. Then
you have to know the future to be able to
say something like that. The four Gospel writers all red
cord that Jesus Christ demonstrated ultimate power over this universe,
(03:07):
ultimate power over death itself. Of course, that was done
through the immutable fact of the resurrection, which we as Christians,
don't believe as a function of blind faith, but rather
faith in irrefutable fact or evidence. And if you want
to see that cashed out, just go to First Corinthians,
chapter fifteen, where Paul gives a four part ironclad argument
(03:30):
for that very thing. Of course, I think the greatest
testimony to Christ ultimately is seen in the lives of men,
women and children every day around the world. People of
different tongues and tribes and nations experienced the Christ that
(03:50):
we celebrate at Christmas. They repented their sin, and they
receive Him as Lord and savior of their lives. And
therefore they don't only come to know about Christ evidentially,
but they come to know Christ experientially. He becomes more
real to them than the very flesh upon their bones.
(04:13):
That's what I write about on Day twelve in our
Journey to the Heart of Christmas. And this devotional for
the season is available as a gift. You can find
it on the web at equip dot org. Let's go
right to the phone lines. Talk to Don. He's listening
in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Hi Don, Hi, Hank, how are you today?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Good?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Thank you good?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
My question. I just finished with the Book of Isaiah
chapter sixty six, the last book, I think it was seventeen.
I noticed Isaiah seemed to jump around in time quite
a bit, and it seemed to me that that particular
verse was talking about the judgment of God, the last
(05:00):
judgment upon the earth? Is am I right about that?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Or now? I think that is what Isaiah is doing.
This is a metaphorical picture of judgment for those who
attack the city of God. And so the language that
is used both for the hope of eternity with God
and the reality of judgment for those who oppose the
(05:30):
purposes of God is given in graphic Old Testament language.
But ultimately, yes, this is about judgment, and it is
also about the hope of eternity.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
So when it talks, though it's not exactly then talking,
it's about necessarily the last judgment, but just all judgment,
like not necessarily him coming on that final.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, I do think it does point to the last judgment, certainly.
The corpses of the invaders, for example, are thrown outside
the city walls, where they decay and where they're eaten
by worms. This metaphor is expanded actually by Jesus in
Mark chapter nine is a picture of eternal punishment for
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those who do not inherit the New Jerusalem. So while
the Old Jerusalem is in view, because this is speaking
in the context of Old Testament Judaism, before the destruction
of the Temple and Jesus had not yet come, the
Old Jerusalem ultimately is not the hope. The Old Jerusalem
is but a type that points forward to Jesus and
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ultimately to a new Jerusalem coming down out of Heaven
from God prepared as a bride beautifully adorned for her husband.
And those who do not go through the gates into
the city are outside those gates, and they suffer eternal
conscious punishment. And so the Old Testament metaphors are delineating that.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So do you think that's why he used the terms
eating the flesh of swine and drinking the drink of abomination?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, absolutely yeah. And on the other hand, the picture
of the new heavens and the new Earth are given
in Old Testament graphic metaphorical language.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Okay, so he's not actually stating that it's like wrong
for a Christian to eat poor, not at.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All, not at all. Remember, there were civil and ceremonial
laws in the context of the Old Testament, they had cachet,
they had value because the substance had not yet come.
But when the substance came, they no longer had any cachet,
they longer had any value. And that's why, if you
read in Mark, Jesus says, is not what goes into
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a man's mouth and into his stomach and then out
of the man, but rather that what precedes from the heart.
And then Mark appens the words of Jesus by saying
that in saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, that's that's kind of what I thought. I just
kind of wanted to, you know, get it verified by you.
You know, I know Paul talked about it, and like,
you know, if one brother thinks it's wrong to eat pork,
then don't try to make him eat pork, you know.
But if you think it's okay, go ahead and eat it.
But if he eats it, it'll be a sin unto him.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, that's right. And you know, we also have to
take into consideration the whole notion is stumbling another brother.
And so Paul becomes all things to all men so
that he might save some. We want to do that,
which is pragmatic in terms of being able to communicate
the truth of the gospel.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Okay, okay, I have one more, just little input about
something I know you're really interesting then, and that's Darwinism.
And and I've never heard anyone really talk about this,
but just kind of wanted to put it out there
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about bees and flowers and fertilization of those flowers and
plants that it seems just it's kind of idiotic to
think that you could have bees forming through evolution if
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they could form enough bees to actually make a colony
to actually and those plants that would have to be
there to sustain the colony would have to be formed
at the exact same time in the exact same area,
and for the beasts that's the same. And also the
bees would have to evolve the exact same time the
plants evolved or otherwise during that one season, those plants
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would die. They wouldn't make it to the next year
because they would, you know, have that polonization.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, and that's just one of many examples that can
be given that pose huge conundrum for the evolutionary paradigm.
I mean, you think about the fact that the eyes
in the brain have to develop in synergistic fashion, because
the isolated development of either is not only counterproductive, it
is devastating. It simply can't work. So there are so
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many examples that explode the evolutionary paradigm in an age
of scientific enlightenment. I think the Cambrian explosion is the
death knell to Darwin's theory of evolution from a biological standpoint.
Much more could be said. I've written about that in
a flip chart, which is available through the Ministry of
the Christian Research Instident also written a book called The
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Creation answer Book. We'll be right back in just a
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Speaker 5 (15:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Munched back to the phone lines, we talk next to
Archie listening in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Hi, Archie, Hey, Hey, how you doing. Thanks a lot.
I really appreciate everything you do. My question has to
do with the resurrection. I recally came to Christ. I
grew up with a jobah witness. So I'm having difficulty
untying one of their teachings. Those who died before Christ sacrificed.
Are they going to be resurrected at some point given
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a chance to hear the message? What's the biblical teaching
on them?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The biblical teaching is that throughout all of history people
are saved in exactly the same way, which is to
say that Abraham was saved not after he was circumcised,
but before he was circumcised. Why circumcision pointed forward in
faith to a truth, and that truth ultimately came in
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the person and work of Jesus Christ. So prior to
Jesus Christ, people look forward to Jesus Christ through types
and shadows. After Jesus Christ, those types and shadows have
been fulfilled. So we already see the substance. So the
Cross stands on the falkrm of history. Before the Cross,
people looked forward to the Cross again through types and shadows.
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After the Cross, we look back at the Cross and
we see that the one who was prefigured in those
types and shadows has come.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Thanks. But I guess my question, I do it those
that before the Cross had no knowledge or understanding of
the types of shadows.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, no they did. They didn't have full knowledge. They
didn't have the kind of clarity that we have, but
they had knowledge. So Abraham was considered a friend of God,
and he looked forward to a new home. He wasn't
addicted to this earth, a new home whose architect and
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builder was God. So he looked forward to Paradise restored,
just as Adam and Eve did. The proto evangel comes
already in Genesis chapter three. So certainly they didn't have
the clarity. And oftentimes you can look at this maybe
as walking into a room. You can kind of make
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the outline of the furniture out in the darkness. You
can kind of see this furniture there. You can't really
see what color it is, but you know it's there,
so you see dimly. But when the light is turned on,
when Christ comes, then you see everything clearly. But certainly,
no matter where you are, you're saved in the same way.
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And Paul makes this explicit. You can go to Acts
chapter seventeen where he's in the Areopagus and he says
from one man, God made every nation of men that
they should inhabit the whole earth. And then Paul says this,
he determined the exact times and places that they should live,
and did that so that men might reach out for
him and find him, though he is not far from
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each one of us. Now Paul can say that because
no matter where you are or what epic of time
you lived in, you have the light of creation. Not
only that, but God has provided a light internally, which
is the knowledge of Himself written upon the canvas of
our consciousness. He talks about that in Romans chapter two.
So if we respond to that light, we will have
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the light of Christ, either through types and shadows or
today the actual light of Christ. And I've often said this,
it's not the absence of truth that damns, it's the
despising of truth that damns. So the idea was not
that Abram had to have encyclopedic knowledge of what was
to come, but he had to believe in faith that
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God was going to provide a sacrifice, just as he
provided a sacrifice in place of Isaac.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Great. Great, Thank you so much. I appreciate all you do.
Thanks thought you got it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Thank you for your call back to the phone lines.
We'll talk next to Joe Overland Park, Kansas. Hi, Joe, Hi, Hank.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
My question is about the Amish and the Mennonites. If
you could give me a little background on what they
stand for. Are they considered Christian? Is it a sect
or a cult? And I've been reading in a book
and it says that missionary work was not part of
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the Amish way, and I was wondering how do they
lend people to Christ? And the second part of my
question is I have a friend who has been going
to a Quaker church for a couple of years and
I wanted to know is there any resk flax that
should go off that I should explain to her? And
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how do they compare to the Amish and the Mennonite.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, you know, there are certainly Amish and Mennonite and
Quakers who are not believers, but you and say that
about Presbyterians and Baptists as well. In terms of the history,
the Amish were named after Jakob Ahman, who was a
seventeenth century Swiss Mennonite, and the Mennonites themselves were named
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after Meno Simmons, who was a Dutchman like I am
a sixteenth century Dutchman. However, and the Amish were actually
a reactionary function within the Mennonite movement, with essentially an
attempt to freeze history around the seventeenth century if you
think about it, because they had a real problem with
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things like electricity and cars and buttons and all of
these kinds of things. So they were a radical Reformation movement.
They didn't think the Reformation had gone far enough in
terms of reforming, and they wanted to really withdraw from
the culture. And so some of their ways and some
of their teachings are certainly peculiar. And it comes to Quakerism.
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I have some distinct problems with the teachings of George Fox,
and I lay those out in my book counterfeit revival.
But there certainly are many Amish Mennonite Quakers who are
completely orthodox when it comes to the essentials of the
historic Christian Faith. However misguided I might think they are
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in secondary matters.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
I know that they say one district may not be
like another district. Yeah, Central, Now.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I think there's a truth to that. I mean, I
don't think that they're monolithic, and you could say that
about a lot of denominations. Baptists are not monolithic, Presbyterians
are not monolithic. They're multifaceted, and I think that in
some part applies to these three closely related movements.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So as far as my girlfriend attending a Quaker church,
would you discourage that?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, I certainly have strong differences with some of Quakerism
or some of the teachings of George Fox. But the
real issue ultimately for me is essential Christian doctrine. What
are the essentials of the historic Christian Faith in essentials, unity,
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non essentials, liberty, and all things charity. Secondly, and not
in terms of second in position, but just second point
that I'm making is that they are experiencing life. There
are dead churches that have right orthodoxy, and this is
certainly true within radical Reformation movements. It's true within Reformation churches,
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it's true within non Reformation churches. So I think the
real issue is life and truth. This is what Paul
told Timothy. What your life and doctrine closely? Persevere in them,
because if you do, you'll save both yourself and your hearers.
Back to the phone lines, we'll talk next to Josh.
He's listening in Dublin. Jo Hi, Josh, Hey, miss Hank,
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how are you.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
I'm all right? How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I have a question about resurrection. We've been studying on
Wednesday nights in our church about the i Ams of Jesus,
and we were in chapter eleven where he was going
to resurrect Lazarus and says I am the resurrection. Well,
our preacher asked us if we knew of anyone else
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in the New Testament that performed the resurrection, And I said, Paul,
And he said, all right, we can't, and I can't
figure out where it was that he said it with
an act off top of his head. He didn't know
exactly where. Do you know where it's at?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, it's Acts chapter twenty, where I think Paul gets
very long winded. As a result of that, a guy
falls asleep in the middle of his dissertation and dies
and Paul raises him from the dead.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Right, that's what our preacher was telling us. But you know,
we were still in the middle of our I mean,
we could have found it, but I hadn't had time
to stop and read enough to look for it.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
But ah, it's a great story and it's absolutely true.
It's a historical narrative. And again you find it in Acts,
Chapter twenty.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Acts, Chapter twenty, Letter Nike, I sort of appreciate it.
I love what you do.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Thank you, Josh, appreciate your call. Unfortunately out of time
for this edition of the Bible Instrument broadcast. Again, your
prayers and your support are deeply appreciated. So long for now.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
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