BIG C SPORTS' 8-26-2025' CIVIL LAWS, YOU & REPARATIONS

REAL SPORTS TALK, M-F 6:00PM

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Callie House, she was born a slave.

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She went out all around in the community tell the
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Pretty soon, her activities came to the attention of the
government and they convicted her a fraud.

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To try to get something.

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She got out of prison, she went back to Nashville
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She counsels student athletes, and she says she's perturbed for
how many do athletes are not equipment to perform at
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Level, but they push them through. They push them through
so they can get a uniform off to help the
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Ending up for the kickoff.

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The petulant child sitting in the Oval office spent the
weekend going back in fourth lying about Maryland Governor Wes Moore.
He lied about crime in Baltimore, He lied about the
bridge collapse and the funding in Maryland as well.

Speaker 8 (18:12):
He lied about the National Guard.

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Then you've got these Fox News hacks like Joe Kansha
saying all that the governor was lying about getting a
bronze star when actually it.

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Was a screw up and he was officially awarded that.
And this is what you see.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Donald Trump attacked Governor Moore his integrity and his credibility,
which is sort of amusing when you talk when you
hear from somebody who was criminally convicted, who was also
found liable for a sexual assault, and we could just
go on and on and on and being a tax chief.
So let's just be real clear. We're going to talk

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about integrity. The person who is lobbing the insults literally
has done. Governor Wes Moore joins us right now and
Governant listen.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I remember the same for American President where they said
that there are times for real issues and real people.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
Uh, and that's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
But what we are facing right now literally is a petulant,
vindictive individual who has no bottom, who has no ethics
for morals, and who literally will attack anyone in everyone
and no sense of decency whatsoever.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
And that was exhibited this weekend with his attacks on you.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, you know, and you know it's it was.

Speaker 17 (19:33):
Uh, it's just sad because you know, he's spending all
of his time coming at mean, because he doesn't want
to talk about his rectors.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
You know.

Speaker 17 (19:42):
That's that's the thing I think people should should always remember,
you know, when when he's when he is, you know,
making making these these absurd claims.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
You know why.

Speaker 17 (19:52):
It's because he doesn't want to talk about the fact
that his economic policies are.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Making life more expensive for everybody.

Speaker 17 (19:57):
He doesn't want to talk about the fact that his
trade war is making food more expensive. It is making
clothing more expensive, is making energy prices more expensive.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
He doesn't want to talk about.

Speaker 17 (20:07):
The fact that his policies are in the state of
Maryland alone, are kicking a quarter of a million people
off of healthcare. He doesn't want to talk about the
fact that his policies have now kicked over six hundred
and eighty thousand people off of food assistance. He doesn't
want to talk about the fact that he has now
laid off over twelve thousand Marylanders, fired over twelve thousand

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Marylanders who are federal workers, the largest number of any
state in this entire country.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
He doesn't want to talk about the fact that his policies.

Speaker 17 (20:39):
Have cut funding for local law enforcement, for violence prevention groups.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
His policies have cut funding for gun violence programs.

Speaker 17 (20:48):
So what do you do when you don't want to
talk about it, You actually just love insults and you
try to distract.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
And he's been doing this his entire life, and so.

Speaker 17 (20:59):
I wasn't terribly surprised when he took to the airways
to talk about how he wants to activate the National Guard, that,
you know, doing something that frankly is what is not
going to be sustainable is not going to be scalable,
is unconstitutional and also something that is deeply disrespectful to
the members of the National Guard. But also then taking

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it because every time he's talking about nonsense, he's not
talking about the fact that his policies are making life
more difficult for everybody every single day.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
And the thing here is this here he literally believes
that he has the right to do whatever he wants
and you have to have a legal reason to make
this move. Normally, the process is that a governor makes
the request that goes to the federal government.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
He believes he could just do whatever he wants when
he wants.

Speaker 17 (21:57):
So I'm very glad you said that because people will
sometimes refer to the Insurrection Act, right, and that's the
justification that he's using to activate the National Guard. And
I said, okay, that that's fair. But if you want
to get you want we want to get technical. Let's
get technical. What is article two, section section section three
and section one and two, and what is article four

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section four of the Insurrection Act?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Talk about? It actually talks about.

Speaker 17 (22:23):
To your point, Rowland, it talks about the idea that
it requires the state to once they say they have
been overrun or they have had all their resources exhausted
that they then have to send a formal letter and
invite the federal government to come on board, which is
not the case that we have seen for a single
time that the President wants to talk about the Insurrection Act.

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And so you're absolutely right that there's you know, I've
taken the I've taken a few oaths in my life.
I took an open when I became a soldier and
I joined the United States United States Army. I took
an over when I became the sixty third governor of
the State of Maryland, and when I became the commander
in chief of the Maryland National Guard.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I take those oaths seriously.

Speaker 17 (23:05):
And one of the oaths that I took was that
I would always not just protect this country against all
enemies foreign and domestic, but that also as a soldier,
that I would follow all legal orders. Now, we have
to remember that what the President of the United States
is doing oftentimes is picking and choosing what parts of
the Constitution to follow, and pick and choosing which parts
of the laws that will actually work to.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
His benefit and to his favor.

Speaker 17 (23:28):
And so that's why this activation that he's doing on
the National Guard is deeply problematic on a collection different levels,
but one of them is is that you do not
have the authority to be able to make those moves
without some type of state ass or some office type
of state build And that's why I've been very clear,

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I will not authorize the members of the National Guard
to be activated if I do not deem as a
commander in chief of Maryland's National Guards, if I do
not deem them to be mission article or mission a
line with what's being asked.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
So it's official.

Speaker 14 (24:05):
The legislature just called a special election November fourth, Proposition fifty,
the Election Rigging Response Act, responding to what just happened
in Texas, Donald Trump and Greg Abbott trying to rig
the twenty twenty six congressional elections before even.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
One vote is cast.

Speaker 14 (24:23):
They also just announced they're going to invest over one
hundred million dollars to defeat this initiative. And that's why
we need your help. We need your support three dollars,
five dollars, ten dollars, whatever you can afford to stand
up to Trump, to stand up for the rule of law,
and to push back against the rule of don.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Being asked.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
I think it was what Lap found me interesting.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I was I had to respond to this idiot with
Joe Kamcha on Fox and Unions, and there was leg
oh was more light about a bronze star.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
And and you listen to folks like if he's a
fifth rate heck, I mean he's he's a nobody. But
then you have a Donald Trump as well.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
And I love how these people think that they can
tell or they can say, uh, talk about the military. Well,
they never put the uniform on when they've never served,
they never took that actual oath. And so mister bonespurs himself,
Donald Trump, I mean, give me a break. He ran
from service. He we know exactly what happened there. H

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And so who is he to understand what the military
oath is praying?

Speaker 17 (25:37):
And you know, and listen, I'm I'm very proud of
my service. I'm very proud to have fought him half
a country. I'm very proud of the men and women
who I serve with, and I know they are proud
of me and uh in my service.

Speaker 10 (25:51):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (25:51):
And I'm proud that, you know, to be I've been,
you know, to be a decorated combat veteran to include
having received the Bronze Star for my service for my
service in Afghanistan leading paratroopers, and I, you know, sometimes
you kind of look.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
At who the criticism is coming from.

Speaker 17 (26:07):
To your point, Rowin, I would put my service to
this country against Donald Trump's any day of the week.
And I really believe that if Donald Trump wants to
have a conversation about service to this country, he should
really sit this one out, because.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
That's not a debate that I think he wants to have.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Governor Pritzkurgh had news conference today where he was very
adamant about these plans to see in National Guard to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
It was the Vice priend Kamala Harris warned us about
this control will let me know we had that sound
bite ready, uh And she warned us, and many of
us warned folks. Yet people still vote. People still voted
and in fact want to play that. This is what
Vice President Harris said. Well, she was she was in Washington,
d C.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
We were there. That White House is in the backdrop.
This is what she actually said.

Speaker 13 (26:59):
Donald Trump intends to use the United States military against
American citizens who simply disagree with him.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
People he calls quote, the enemy from within America. This
is not a candidate for president who.

Speaker 24 (27:19):
Is thinking about how to make your life better.

Speaker 13 (27:23):
This is someone who is unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed
with grievance, and out for unchecked power. Donald Trump has
spent a decade trying to keep the American people divided

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and afraid of each other.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
That is who he is.

Speaker 12 (27:49):
But America, I am here tonight to say that.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is not who we are.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
That we are.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
There were people in the media who said, oh, my goodness,
she's wrong.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
She shouldn't be saying those things. You know, I or
her an apology, and.

Speaker 17 (28:13):
You know it's it's uh, you know I I I
heard that that President Trump earlier today said that I
told him, uh that that he was the greatest president
of all time or some some of the some of
the lie. It was amazing to me, and I said,
because if that's the case, I found out really interesting

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because when you see how hard I campaigned to make
sure that.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
He never got back to that office.

Speaker 17 (28:41):
Because what the Vice President was talking about, we are
now seeing, uh in living color.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
You know. There there's there is a seriousness about this job.

Speaker 17 (28:51):
There's a serious about seriousness about this time that we
found ourselves in.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
There's a seriousness about the fact that that the thing.

Speaker 17 (28:58):
That people were hoping for, that this president has no
intention of being able to address it. That Donald Trump
was a fantastic vessel for the frustration. He was the
one who would tell you over and over what's wrong
and who's to blame for it? And now he was
the only one that could fix it. He was the
one who who, by his behavior and buy his rhetoric,

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really served as this as this this this vessel for
people's anger, for the fact that the system did not
always work with people. And we should be very honest
about being able to say that. I also know this
is that for everybody who was saying that, I want
to make sure that we are making your communities safer.

(29:43):
You want to make your your neighborhoods more affordable. You
want to make housing and make affordable housing and real option.
You want to create pathways for work and wages and wealth.
You want to be able to ensure that your your
children have a chance to inherit something more than debt
from you. You want to make sure that you can
own more than you owe. You want to make sure

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that your children can attend to school. That sees you
not just to be employees, but how to be employers.
You want to make sure that your entrepreneur ideas and
hopes can actually be supported. You want to ensure that
you have a chance to age and dignity and age
in place that the President of the United States has
no desire in making those things happen. And that's the
thing that people are saying right now, where if you

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look at the policies that have come on board just
thus far in these past eight months, they've made everything
more expensive.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
They've made true.

Speaker 17 (30:35):
Wealth creation unless you are already wealthy and generally and
oftentimes generationally wealthy, that's made wealth creation and the chance
to own something more unattainable. That's made this country actually
owe more in debt than it ever has before. That
has made our nation less safe when you consider the
amount of global conflicts that are now going on that

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he has had no plan or too sol that we
are seeing in living color what it looks like when
you have someone who does not have a vision for
all of us in place, whose idea is you're on
your own, and that's really a slogan that they are
living by within this administration.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
And so we're just going to be very clear bad
in our state.

Speaker 17 (31:19):
The insurance adjuster just offered me thirty two hundred dollars
for my car accident, but then I found out what
they really owe me.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Check this out, and so we're just going to be
very clear bad in our state.

Speaker 17 (31:32):
That in Maryland that in our time, you know, since
I've been the governor, we have added over one hundred thousand.
We've added around one hundred thousand new jobs in the
state of Maryland, which is more than my predecessor added
in eight years. We've done that in two and a
half years, did one of the fastest job growth rates
in the entire country. That we've gone from forty third
in the country in unemployment and now having one of
the lowest un plumb rates in the entire country for

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a year and a half, that Maryland has seen amongst
the fastest drop and violent crime of anywhere in the
United States of America, and the Baltimore City is now
at fifty years lows when it comes to homicides.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
That we are now watching population increases.

Speaker 17 (32:08):
That we have made our state the first state in
the country that now has a service your option for
our high school graduates. And I've signed the largest mask
pardon in the history of the United States of America
at over one hundred and seventy five thousand misdemeanor cannabis
convictions pardoned in the shrope of a pen. We are
showing that you can give the middle class a tax
cut and ask the millionaires to pay a little bit more,

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which is the absolute opposite that we're seeing from the
federal administration. We're showing that there is an alternative to
the madness in the chaos that we are seeing from
this Trump Dance administration and showing it in this moment.
We will be remembered about how we responded, and I'm
proud about how.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
The state of Maryland continues to respond this moment.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Gon a couple of quick questions, Trump said is quote,
I gave westboy a lot of money to fix his
demoliged bridge.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
I will now have to rethink that decision. Buy the Harris, give.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
You all the money.

Speaker 17 (33:03):
Yeah, there is nothing that has Donald Trumps signature that
has anything to do with a key bridge, you know.
And I'll never forget that morning when we had to
shif the size of three football field slam into our
iconic Key Bridge, and you saw a bridge it's almost
two miles long, crumble to the bottom of the Tapsco River,
where thirteen percent of our state's economy shut down instantaneously,

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where thousands of workers lost their job, where we lost
six construction workers who were fixing potholes.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
In the middle of the night.

Speaker 17 (33:34):
And we were able to not just return, you know,
the remains of the individuals and make sure those families
got the closure that they needed. But when they told
us it would take eleven months to clear that federal channel,
we got it cleared in eleven weeks. And we did
it by putting on a case study of what it
shows and what it looks like to work together, particularly
in times of crisis. And we received one hundred percent

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cost share between the state ofum Maryland and the federal
government that was signed by passed by both Republican and
Democratic members of Congress, and signed by the presidents Joe Biden.
And so there is no money that Donald Trump quote
unquote gave us as a check.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
But there is no money that Donald Trump gave us.

Speaker 17 (34:16):
And so I always tell the people of our state,
you cannot take something, and we cannot have someone take
something away from us when they never gave it to
us in the first place. And I'm thankful to the
five partisan members of Congress for their ability to have
a vision about what it means to rebuild this country together,
and we will continue to work to make them proud
in that effort.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Well government.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Last point here, I said this twenty two hours ago,
and I wanted to see how sad we are this country.
Is a black lawyer in d C. Sho won by
twenty officers, walking down the block. His name is Paul Bryant.
He says he's going to press charge it gives those
who assaulted him. He is a West Point graduate, serve
as an infantry officer in the US Army for starting
his legal career. And again, a black man walking down

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the street and then he is accosted by federal law enforcement,
midfather and police. And I keep warning people, this is
going to get worse. If people and if you can
speak to this here, and I've been saying this all
across the country. I was in Jackson, Mississippi, on Saturday.
I was in Milwaukee on Thursday. The only way to
stop these people, we have to have massive resistance at

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the ballot box in twenty twenty five for the state
elections twenty.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
Twenty six, when it comes to the congression.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Election, and if the only way to stop these people.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You can't cry about it, tweet about it, put it
on TikTok.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
We must vote these thugs out and have accountability.

Speaker 17 (35:44):
That's exactly right. There has to be checked some balances,
And you're right. I mean, like, when I hear people
talk about, well, what are we going to do in
twenty twenty eight, I'm like, listen, what are you doing
in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Like, what are you doing right now? What are you
doing make sure that we are standing up and using
our voice.

Speaker 17 (36:02):
What are you doing to make sure that we will
not be bullied and we will not be pushed aside?
And no, I will not just assume the position when
we have a president of the United States and we
have an administration who was continually attacking the people of
our state. I was very clear to the people of Maryland.
I will work with anyone, but I will bow down
to nowhere. And this becomes a moment where we all

(36:23):
have to be able to use our voice and say,
if you believe in democracy, then start expressing your democratic life.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
If you believe in this country, then start defending this country.

Speaker 17 (36:34):
And when we have to make sure that every single,
every single race matters to us, every single election matters
to us. I don't care if you don't live in
Virginia or you don't live in New Jersey. There are
two governor's races going on right now in both those
two states that we've got to make sure that our
voices are heard because you will rep long after those

(36:57):
I don't care if you happen to live in a
jurisdiction twenty twenty six that has a has a competitive
congressional race, you have to make sure that your voice
is heard and that the people who need to win
win and the people who need to get.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Voted out or voted out.

Speaker 17 (37:11):
This becomes a moment when we have to flex our
muscle and we have to strengthen our muscle.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
You deserve the best at Harbor Fright, you can afford it.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
We design our own tools with performance and durability in mind.

Speaker 17 (37:25):
And we have to strengthen our muscles because if we don't,
we will simply find ourselves going quiet into the darkness.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
And that's exactly what those who want to oppress you want.

Speaker 17 (37:37):
So use your voice, respect your democracy and actually fight
for your future.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
And as we say, there goes an out for the man.
Sorry Scott Bolden, lookap of lets. If there's an O
six thing kids, right.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Burt Ball service the ball. We shall strengths snd All.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
Hey, we've sure.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Go to Westbourne. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, god Blett,
you goblet help one night.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Hello.

Speaker 24 (38:08):
We know the President watches the program and he likely
saw the guest listing because he's tweeting about you or
true thing. I guess he says. The governor of Wesmore
of Maryland has asked, in a nasty and provocative tone
that I walked the streets of Maryland with him and
he's talking about crime ridden Baltimore. It's quite lengthy, but
he goes after your record on crime. He says it's

(38:28):
a bad one. He says, if you need help, he
will send in the troops, which is being done in
nearby DC. I mean, when we saw a few weeks
ago the deployment on the streets of Los Angeles, the
governor of California tried to go to the course and
he was unable to stop them. Is the reality here
is you can't stop the president from sending troops to

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Baltimore if.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
He wants to.

Speaker 17 (38:51):
The year before I became the governor in twenty twenty two,
Baltimore was averaging almost a homicide to day and I
came in and Nice said, I refuse to be a
governor who just offers thoughts and prayers to this situation.
So we said, we're actually going to work in partnership
with Mayor Scott, working partnership with local elected officials, working
partnership with local with local law enforcement.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
We made the largest investments.

Speaker 17 (39:14):
In local law enforcement in our state's history, over fifty
million dollars going to Baltimore City alone.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
That came from both federal and state miney.

Speaker 17 (39:23):
And also Maryland became one of the only states that
actually helped to fund the US Attorney out of balance sheet,
taking many of those gun crimes and actually turning them
into federal charges. And the results have been incredibly encouraging,
where Maryland has had amongst the fastest drops in violent
crime of anywhere in the United States in the past
two and a half years. The homicide rate Maryland is
down over twenty percent since I had been the governor,

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and the last time the homicide rate was this law in.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Baltimore City, I was not born yet.

Speaker 17 (39:48):
And so the reason that I've asked the President to
come and join us is because he seems to enjoy
living in this blissful ignorance, these tropes, in these nineteen
eighty scarce tax scared time. And you know, just last
week I was in Baltimore and I was with a
group called We Are Us, who's a violence intervention groups,
and they say, We're all we got, We're all we need.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
And that's exactly how.

Speaker 17 (40:11):
People in this community feel, because while the President is
spending his time from the Oval office making jabs and
attacks at us, there are people actually on the ground
doing the work who know what supports would actually work
to continue to bring down crime.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
But it's falling on deaf years. As the President states, you're.

Speaker 24 (40:25):
Talking about the positive trend line, the presence pointing to
the FBI statistics which shows Baltimore's the fifth most instances
of violent crime on a per capita basis fourth highest
murder rate. To your point, the city of Memphis is
also on that list, and the governor of Tennessee sent
those National Guard troops here to this city, not to
the streets of Memphis.

Speaker 17 (40:45):
But we know it worked to do We know like,
if one person does not feel safe in their neighborhood,
that's one too many.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
But we also know what tactics actually work and what
taxes just theatrics.

Speaker 24 (40:54):
But you're the mayor in Baltimore. Did just say he
wants federal help. He doesn't want national goal our troups
per se, though, he says he wants agents from FBIDA
and ATS. Do you need more federal health in policing
If your mayor thinks you do, oh.

Speaker 17 (41:10):
Absolutely, And we need the President to stop cutting funding
because if you look at the President's budget, it actually
cuts funding towards voalance intervention groups, It cuts funding towards
the bureaus of the FBI and the ATF that are
supporting local jurisdictions like Baltimore, that it doesn't do anything
about things like ghost guns and these extending block clips
that allow these blocks to essentially turn into automatic weapons.

(41:32):
Those are actually real tangible things that the President of
the United States could do and where you could put
capital to actually make our community safe.

Speaker 24 (41:39):
So you are a Democrat who is President Trump says
so as well, possibly a presidential candidate. He talked about
you the other day. Yeah, you spent a lot of
time talking about you.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I've been on his mind.

Speaker 24 (41:50):
You're spending time talking about crime. Is this something that
as a Democrat you think the Democratic Party needs to
be more vocal and muscular about when running for office,
Because I hear you do that. It's a very big
change from twenty twenty when the idea was deep on
the fleet.

Speaker 17 (42:05):
Absolutely, and yet the President spending all this time talking
about me. I'm spending my time talking about the people
I served. And yes, I believe that we have to
be able to address the issue of crime. I came
up in and I have existed in neighborhoods and communities
that have been chronically neglected. And I remember one of
the first things that happened in our first months in
I had to visit shock trauma inside of Baltimore because

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Baltimore had one of the largest mass.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Shootings in its history.

Speaker 17 (42:30):
And I visited a young man, a teenager, who was
just finished surgery and had one of his testicle shot
off and was talking about how was he ever going
to become a father? And I said at that point,
I refuse to continue doing this and not putting the
proper resources in place, and not being able to put
a real focus on making our community safer. And that's

(42:52):
why it is so frustrating when we're hearing from the
President of the United States something that is just purely
performative without actually focusing on these communities and these neighborhoods
who believe that progress is possible and who are willing
to put in the work, and which is simply asking
for Washington to be able to acknowledge it and support it.

Speaker 24 (43:10):
He says, you're not presidential timber at all. I imagine
you disagree with that assessment.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
No, I've been very clear, I'm not running for president.

Speaker 17 (43:19):
But it's interesting that But it's interesting the president seems
to be more concerned about my future than he is
about the future of the American people. And that's why
I'm asking him to keep his focus focus on the
things that actually matter right now, which is the fact
that his economic policies are driving up prices on everything
from electronics to the clothes that we wear to the
food that we eat. In talk about the fact that

(43:40):
these immigration policies that are knocking out tens of thousands
of jobs in the state of Maryland. Talk about the
fact that you are about to kick veterans and seniors
off of health care.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Don't worry about my future, worry about theirs.

Speaker 25 (43:54):
Hello, my name is Adam Ferrari.

Speaker 23 (43:57):
National Guard troops controlling the nation's capital are now carrying
fire arms. The majority will carry M seventeen pistols, their
service issued weapons, according to a Defense Department official, while
a small number of the troops will be armed with
their service and four rifles. National Guard troops were seen
walking around the city with pistols, holds, toolstered on their hips,
and MP patches designating their role as military police to

(44:19):
see them on the screen. On Friday, Defense Secretary Pete
Hegseth authorized Guard members in DC to carry those weapons,
and it's a shift from their previously unarmed status. They're
authorized to use those weapons for self protection only. As
of Sunday, there were more than two thousand National Guard
soldiers and airmen assigned to d C, including Guard from Louisiana, Mississippi, Ohio,
and other states.

Speaker 24 (44:40):
Despite the deployment, DC police data.

Speaker 23 (44:42):
Shows violent crime is down roughly twenty seven percent year
over year, according to DC Police data. Meanwhile, only reporting
reveals the Pentagon has been planning a military deployment to
Chicago four weeks now, as President Trump turns his head
towards the next city amid his plans to crack down
on crime, homelessness, and undocument into demmigration. Official familiar with

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the matter tell The Washington Post that the planning involves
several options, including mobilizing at least a few thousand members
of the National Guard to Chicago as soon as next month.
On Friday, Trump touted his ongoing National Guard intervention here
in DC and zeroed in on Chicago as the next target.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Chicago is a mess.

Speaker 26 (45:20):
You have an incompetent mayor, mostly incompetence, and we'll straighten
that one out, probably next.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
That will be our next one after this, and it
won't even be tough.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
And the people in Chicago, mister Vice President, are screaming
for us to go.

Speaker 23 (45:37):
The mayor of Chicago, Brendon Johnson, touted his city's falling
crime rate and an interview yesterday and said Trump's threats
are unconstitutional and costly.

Speaker 27 (45:47):
As president has not taking his role and his responsibility
as serious as mayors like myself and across the plunk
yard because we actually have to show up as a
limit for people where he gets to show up and
make a mockay out of our democrasy. It's unconstitutional, it's
e lee wal, it's costly, and it's.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Not going to drive robustown in our city. The work
that we're doing is working. If he's serious, he would
work with us.

Speaker 23 (46:11):
Our colleague Shack Brewster doing that interview Illinois Governor J. B.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Pritz were also weighted.

Speaker 23 (46:16):
Accusing the President of attempting to manufacture a crisis in
his words, adding that it might be abusing his power.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
I Meanwhile, President Trump.

Speaker 23 (46:24):
Is also threatening to send the military into Baltimore to
quickly clean up prime there. Trump's threat came in a
post on social media yesterday, where he also criticized Maryland's
Governor Wes Moore, writing in part, if Wes Moore needs
help like Gavin Newscomb did in LA, I will send
in the troops. The President also threatened to pull federal
funding for the replacement of the Francis Scott Key Bridge,

(46:45):
which collapsed in twenty twenty four, and he questioned whether
Moore an army veteran who served in Afghanistan lied about
receiving a Bronze Star. No evidence at all there. Trump's
remarks came after Moore said that Trump's comments about fighting
prime come off as so tone deaf and so ignorant.
Despite Trump's claims, violent crime is on the decline in Baltimore,

(47:05):
homicides are down twenty four percent.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Well, non fatal.

Speaker 24 (47:08):
Shootings are down eighteen percent. Dottor Wes Moore is going
to join us to discuss.

Speaker 23 (47:13):
All of this later on Morning Joe, but for now
joining us NBC News Justice reporter Ryan Riley Ryan troops
carrying weapons appears to be a major escalation here. It's
one that we've known was coming. But do we have
any idea why that order was turned around?

Speaker 12 (47:29):
What are you going to get this time?

Speaker 24 (47:30):
Get Domino's nine ninety nine pristial lover before it's gone.

Speaker 25 (47:33):
Hey, it's Governor Gavin Newsom. And we're not going to
watch Donald Trump rig the next election.

Speaker 28 (47:37):
We're not going to just sit back and watch what's
happening in Texas and not respond to it.

Speaker 25 (47:42):
It's time to fight fire with fire. We're going to
the ballot. We're going to redistrict here in the state
of California. But we're going to need your help.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
They're going to throw.

Speaker 28 (47:51):
Millions and millions of dollars at us. They're going to
do whatever it takes to defeat this effort here in
the Golden State. And that's why we need your support.
A dollar, five dollars, ten dollars, anything you can afford.
Let's stand up for democracy, Let's stand up for.

Speaker 24 (48:06):
The rule of law.

Speaker 25 (48:07):
Let's stand up for the principles to find the best
of our nation.

Speaker 29 (48:11):
Well, Donald Trump is continuing his assault on American cities. First,
he deployed the National Guard to the streets of Los Angeles,
which city officials did not want nor ask for.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Then came Washington, d c. Again unprovoked.

Speaker 29 (48:23):
Tonight, National Guard troops are carrying side arms m seventeen
pistols to patrol our nation's capital.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Chicago now the.

Speaker 29 (48:31):
Third city, all led by Democrats bracing for a federal
troop presence after Donald Trump escalated his threat to deploy the.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Military to crack down on crime.

Speaker 29 (48:41):
Donald Trump's assault on American cities has nothing to do
with violent crime, which is generally down across the country,
but down more in some of these cities than in
a whole bunch of other cities. Donald Trump is exaggerating
the amount of crime in these cities, and the same
way that he exaggerated the role that undocumented immigrants play
in committing crimes. We all know this when undocumented immigrants

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commit crimes at a much lower rate than either native
born Americans or naturalized citizens and legal residents, in large
part because the consequences of committing a felony when you're
an undocumented immigrant could be deportation.

Speaker 20 (49:13):
They all know that.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
But if there is crime in our cities, it should
be addressed.

Speaker 29 (49:18):
If you're the victim of crime, you don't want to
hear a bunch of Ivory Tower politicians caring on about
how it's not that bad. It's just that this isn't
the way to fix the problem of actual crime. This
has everything to do with intimidation and Donald Trump's desire
for martial law. It's the soft underbelly of authoritarianism. This
is what Donald Trump said in the Oval office this morning.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
I made the statement that next should be Chicago, because,
as you all know, Chicago's a killing fields right now,
and they don't acknowledge it, and they say we don't
need them.

Speaker 12 (49:50):
Freedom.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Freedom.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of people
are saying, maybe we like a dictator.

Speaker 29 (49:57):
Donald Trump's not only lying about Chicago being a quote
killing field right now. Chicago actually has seen about a
thirty three percent decrease in homicides in the first half
of this year. But he's really wrong about his claim
that a lot of people are saying, maybe we'd like
a dictator. According to a recent pull, donald Trump's disapproval
rating has a new high. Fifty six percent of Americans

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disapprove of Trump's job performance, forty percent approved. Who are
all these people, these Americans who say maybe we'd like
a dictator. Since the start of his second term, Donald
Trump has wasted no time trying to make his dictatorial
dreams of reality. Donald Trump said he could send troops
anywhere on less than twenty four hours notice, and then.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
He said this, we may wait, we may or may not.
We may just go in and do it today.

Speaker 29 (50:45):
Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker sent Donald Trump a warning after
that threat. This is not about fighting prime This is
about Donald Trump searching for any justification to deploy the
military in a blue city. In a blue state to
try and intimidate his political rivals. This is about the

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President of the United States and his complicit Lackey Stephen Miller,
searching for ways to lay the groundwork to circumvent our democracy,
militarize our cities, and end elections. In case there was
any doubt as to the motivation behind Trump's military occupations,

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take note thirteen of the top twenty cities in homicide
rate have Republican governors.

Speaker 26 (51:34):
None of these cities is Chicago. Eight of the top
ten states with the highest homicide rates are led by Republicans.
None of those states is Illinois. Memphis, Tennessee, Hattiesburg, Mississippi
have higher prime rates than Chicago. And yet Donald Trump
is sending troops here and not there. Ask yourself why

(51:58):
this is not a time to fall back into the
reflexive crouch that I so often see, where the authoritarian
creep by this administration is ignored in favor of some
horse race piece on who will be helped politically by
the president's actions. Donald Trump wants to use the military
to occupy a US city, punish his dissidents, and score

(52:23):
political points. If this were happening in any other country.
We would have no trouble calling it what it is,
a dangerous power grant.

Speaker 29 (52:32):
It isn't just democratic governors or mayors, local lawmakers who
are echoing that sentiment. Here's what Donald Trump's former chief
of staff, the retired US Marine Corps General John Kelly,
said about Donald Trump last year.

Speaker 30 (52:44):
Well, looking at the definition of fascism, it's a far right, authoritarian,
ulternationalist political ideology movement characterized by a tutoral leader, centralized
on pocracy, militarism, suppose suppression of opposition, belief in the
natural social hierarchy.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Certainly, the former president.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
Is in the far right area.

Speaker 30 (53:13):
Certainly an authoritarian admires people who are dictators. He has
said that, so he certainly falls into into the general
definition of fascists.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
For sure.

Speaker 29 (53:30):
Trump is normalizing armed troops in American neighborhoods. And you
may not live in Washington, DC, or Los Angeles or
Chicago or care but for everyone else not living in
these cities, this is a flashing light of fascism being
accepted and normalized, and it could be come into your
streets next joining us now. Radley Balco, investigative journalist and
author of the rise of the warrior cop militarization of
America's police forces. Is also the author of the substact

(53:53):
newsletter The Watch, also with US. Jason Stanley, professor at
the Monk's School of Global Affairs and Public Policy at
the University of Toronto, is the author of A Racing History,
How Fascist rewrites the past to control of the future.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Good morning, I'll go evening to both of you guys. Thanks.
I say good morning to you. Lassime. I talked to
you is in the morning.

Speaker 29 (54:10):
We had an important conversation about this idea when it
was happening in d C.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Jason, I want to start with you.

Speaker 29 (54:17):
You know, when people use the expression crossing the rubicon,
it's the idea that the leader cannot come into Rome.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Caesar could not come into Rome at the head of
the army.

Speaker 29 (54:25):
The army is not for the things that need to
be done in Rome, the policing of the Roman citizen.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
We've done this now three times.

Speaker 29 (54:33):
We have crossed the rubicon, literally three times, and we're
Donald Trump is relying on the fact that this just
becomes north.

Speaker 12 (54:45):
It's official tanks have unleashed the US military against Americans,
which is not hyperbolic. Because he's doing it. He signed
this executive order yesterday. President Trump has signed an executive
order to a established specialized National Guard units that will
address public order issues. That tells me protests not just

(55:10):
I mean because that's the only public disturbance that I
can think of.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
What about you?

Speaker 31 (55:16):
Yeah, I mean they're doing They're starting to take over everything,
and there's going to blue cities, and he ran on this,
I'm going to go after the enemy from within, and
the enemy from within if you're a MAGA person, are
your fellow citizens? Because they want to be the thought police.
They don't think that we should be able to have
free thought.

Speaker 12 (55:36):
They want.

Speaker 31 (55:40):
They don't think that we should be able to have
free thought. They want to ban books like the Diary
of Anne Frank while at the same time call everybody
an anti semi And yeah, I mean, this is just
this is a full blown authoritarian play. They don't want
people protesting. They want to continue their propaganda to say,
oh my god, I have a ninety percent approval rating,
which actually I think it's in the low thirties. Strong

(56:02):
support for him is in the low twenties. And so
this is a very unpopular movement. But the only play
that they have is the optic play, and they're going
to continue with the optics. And I think we're going
to see more and more attacks on American citizens. They're
already kidnapping American citizens with masks over their face, and

(56:23):
I think it's just going to continue. Well, we know
he's in DC alleging all of this high crime when
DC is at the lowest crime right in thirty years.
So he said yesterday, Chicago, here we go. Trump hedges
on Chicago plans but says National Guard is ready. You know,
I hate to barge in on a city and then

(56:43):
be treated horribly by corrupt politicians and bad politicians, which
it's rich for him to call anybody corrupt or bad.

Speaker 12 (56:52):
But basically, Chicago is a democratic stronghold. And so here
is what the governor of Illinois had to say in
response to Trump, and he said some really important things.

Speaker 26 (57:01):
So let's listen in, mister President, do not come to Chicago.
You are neither wanted here nor needed here. Your remarks
about this effort over the last several weeks have betrayed
a continuing slip in your mental faculties and are not

(57:24):
fit for the auspicious office that you occupy. Most alarming,
you seem to lack any appropriate concern as our commander
in chief for the members of the military that you
would so callously deploy as pawns in your ever more
alarming grabs for power.

Speaker 12 (57:45):
Here's what's interesting to me, other than Gavin Newsom, I
haven't heard anybody else call out the slip and his
mental faculties. I don't hear it in the media. I
get an alert every now and then that says Trump's
press conference goes off the rails, Trump's press camp, our
dementia ridden nursing home spectaculars.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
That's what they are.

Speaker 31 (58:04):
So I'm happy to see JB. Pritzker calling this out. Yeah,
I mean, it's like Captain Obvious. I mean, and this
is a guy who on the campaign trail was already
showing massive, massive slips and cognitive decline. He tried to
give a microphone a blowjob. He bopped around like a
little bobber out in the lake with Christy Num listening
to Auve Maria, droned on about Hannibal elector and all

(58:28):
of that was.

Speaker 12 (58:29):
Kind of funny when he was campaigning.

Speaker 31 (58:31):
Because Democrats operate on assumption politics, we assume Americans won't
vote for him. We assume democracy won't fall. And right
now we need to assume that they are going to
take the Constitution and rip it up, and we're not
going to make it to the midterms. Because there's no
other reason for the States Rights people to federalize control

(58:55):
of a state who it has a governor, who is
in charge of the streets. There's no other reason to
do this other than to stop elections. That's what they're
trying to do. They know his health is deteriorating, both
physically and mentally, and they have to have some stuff
in place because Jade Vance does not have the risk.
They are trying to stop elections. That's what they're trying

(59:17):
to do with this. Nobody's talking about it. They want
to stop the midterm elections.

Speaker 12 (59:23):
I completely agree. And one thing that JB. Pritsker also
called out were the enablers that he has around him,
particularly in Congress.

Speaker 26 (59:33):
The Congress, finally, to the Trump administration officials who are
complicit in this scheme, to the public servants who have
forsaken their oath to the Constitution to serve the petty
whims of an arrogant little man.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
To any federal official who would come to Chicago and try.

Speaker 26 (59:53):
To incite my people into violence as a pretext for
something darker and more dangerous. We are watching, and we
are taking names. This country has survived darker periods than
the one that we're going through right now, and eventually
the pendulum will swing back, maybe even next year. Donald

(01:00:17):
Trump has already shown himself to have little regard for
the many accolytes that he has encouraged to commit crimes
on his behalf. You can delay justice for a time,
but history shows you cannot prevent it from finding you eventually.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
If you hurt my people, nothing.

Speaker 26 (01:00:37):
Will stop me, not time or political circumstance, from making
sure that you face justice under our constitutional rule of law.
As doctor King once said, the arc of the moral
universe is long, but it bends toward justice. Humbly, I
would add, it doesn't bend on its own. History tells

(01:01:00):
us we often have to apply needed to make sure
that the arc gets where it needs to go.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
This is one of those times.

Speaker 12 (01:01:11):
Do you agree with him that this isn't the darkest
spot in American history?

Speaker 31 (01:01:16):
I mean, I didn't live through, you know, slavery, but
I would think that that would have been a really dark,
horrific time. I didn't live through the period where women
didn't have the right to vote, but I would imagine
that that was a pretty dark, horrific time. I didn't
live through the period when you know, black little girls

(01:01:39):
and boys were trying to walk into a school after
they had been desegregated, and white people spit.

Speaker 12 (01:01:44):
On them and hit them and beat them and punch them, and.

Speaker 31 (01:01:48):
There was a white's only bathroom and a whites only restaurant.
I imagine that that would have been a horribly horrific time.
The thing that we have to remember about what he's
saying right here is to make America great again is
what these people want to return to. They want to
return to a time where we have complete segregation.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
They very much call.

Speaker 31 (01:02:13):
Out black people, brown people. There's a video that I
saw this morning, and it's so painful to watch, and
it's a Breako Garcia hugging his wife and his family members,
and everybody's sobbing uncontrollably because Tom Homan and Stephen Miller
and Kanks are going to ship him off to Uganda,

(01:02:34):
and the cruelty is the point, and so they're wanting
to return to some of our darkest times. I don't
think we're there yet, but I think it is the
aspirations and long term ambition of this administration to return
to those times.

Speaker 12 (01:02:50):
I completely agree with you, because they are doing everything
to take it and make America great again. Like you said,
we're going backwards. They want to go backwards. They want
white men in complete power. And then I don't hear
this a lot other than from independent media, but Governor
Pritzker calls out the media, and I am so grateful
to hear that, because somebody needs to.

Speaker 26 (01:03:13):
To the members of the press who are assembled here
today and listening across the country, I am asking for
your courage to tell it like it is. This is
not a time to pretend here that there are two
sides to this story. This is not a time to
fall back into the reflexive crouch that I so often see,

(01:03:33):
where the authoritarian creep by this administration is ignored in
favor of some horse race piece on who will be.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Helped politically by the president's actions.

Speaker 26 (01:03:45):
Donald Trump wants to use the military to occupy a
US city, punish his dissidents, and score political points. If
this were happening in any other country, we would have
no trouble calling it what it.

Speaker 25 (01:03:59):
Is, a dangerous power grab.

Speaker 12 (01:04:03):
I love that he said that it is a dangerous
power graph. And the media desk go back and forth
like it's just, oh, well, Donald Trump sending in to
US cities because the crime's back. Bullshit. That is a lie.
That is an absolute lie. I watched the BBC last.

Speaker 31 (01:04:19):
Night and they were talking about Trump wanting to militarize Chicago,
and they had on a Republican an American Republican consultant
and a Democratic consultant.

Speaker 12 (01:04:33):
The Republican consultant.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Because I was just kind of I was typing on my.

Speaker 31 (01:04:37):
Computer returning emails, I heard her and this is a
black woman who's a Republican consultant who repeated the lie
that Maga and Kanks is saying that Chicago is a
killing field.

Speaker 12 (01:04:52):
And I popped up my head and I'm looking at.

Speaker 31 (01:04:54):
The screen watching BBC and I am just like I
cannot believe they are both siding this thing, and I
cannot believe that this woman is not completely fact checked immediately.
And all of those clips that you played by Governor
Pritsker are very important and it's refreshing to hear somebody
intelligent that can put sentences together to defend our democracy.

(01:05:18):
But to me, the most important clip from his speech
was this one right here. Audience, please listen to this.
This is so incredibly important.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
This is not about fighting crime. This is about Donald
Trump searching for.

Speaker 26 (01:05:33):
Any justification to deploy the military in a blue city,
in a blue state to try and intimidate his political rivals.
This is about the President of the United States and
his complicit lackey Stephen Miller, searching for ways to lay
the groundwork to circumvent our democracy. Militarize our cities and

(01:05:56):
end elections.

Speaker 31 (01:05:58):
That's it, right there, end elections. Militarize our cities and
end elections. Somebody is finally saying it, somebody with clout,
somebody who is aware of.

Speaker 12 (01:06:12):
What's going on. People in independent media have been saying this.

Speaker 31 (01:06:16):
We have been saying we're very concerned about making it
to the midterms, but somebody is saying it. It is
so important that we message this wide and for a
very long time, because that is their intention. Their intention
is to not have elections again.

Speaker 12 (01:06:34):
And so when somebody like JB. Printzker says that all
governors and the.

Speaker 31 (01:06:39):
Democrat, the DNC and hawkeem Jeffries, if you have it
in you start talking about this.

Speaker 12 (01:06:46):
This is serious.

Speaker 31 (01:06:48):
This is serious because if you don't defend this, he'll
start arresting every single one of you. Those are their plans.
If we don't have elections, you think you're going to
get your seat again, you won't because they'll arrest you.
That's how this ends.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
And it is grave.

Speaker 24 (01:07:05):
It is serious.

Speaker 12 (01:07:06):
They are not effing around.

Speaker 31 (01:07:08):
They're putting up big banners of Trump all over Washington, DC,
which number one has got to deter tourism. But my god,
it's just this is serious, you guys. Okay, please subscribe
to our channel. Make sure we get this video of
Pritzker far wide and the messaging that he is calling

(01:07:31):
right here.

Speaker 24 (01:07:32):
Because this is what.

Speaker 31 (01:07:33):
Authoritarians do historically. You can study it and this is
exactly what they do, and it should kill you to
your bone. But we can still resist, We can still rebel,
and we have no choice but to do it. All right,
subscribe to our channel and we'll see you all later.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Oh, it really has nothing to do with anything real,
and so, as always.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
It's a fraud, he's sign an executive order allowing the
Piscatory pet hexith the authority to establish COLT specialized National
Guard units to do with public disorder dis issues and cracking.

Speaker 8 (01:08:14):
Down on a so called cash list bail.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
According to the White House, one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Executive orders will apply will apply specifically to DC, while
the other will have a part national scope. Y'all, but
he doesn't have the authorities, so that's all bs. But
similar human rights lawyers from Black Lawyers for Justice say
they plan to take what they call strong legal action
in federal court against any National Guard or Metropolitan Police
Department officers who violate the constitutional rights of regids in

(01:08:38):
the district. And the Black Lawyers for Justice National and
President of Attorney Malie Zulus Shabazzi Jonas. Right now, Blake,
I'm glad to have you here, so walk us through this.
And you say it takes strong action, What does that mean?
Because others have filed lawsuits said.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
This is illegal. So what does that mean in terms
of what y'all are going to do?

Speaker 32 (01:08:56):
This means that each individual officer, whether they are Federal
police officer, a National Guard or unfortunately an MPD officer,
any individual officer that violates a person's constitutional rights or
Fourth Amendment rights against illegal search and seizures or detentions.
Those officers will be sued right away in their individual capacity.

(01:09:20):
That means that their bank accounts, their libbihood will be
put directly on the line for the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Actions they take against citizens.

Speaker 32 (01:09:28):
This is a step further and many calls are coming
in because this military occupation is violating a lot of
Fourth Amendment rights, particularly in the black community in the
District of Columbia.

Speaker 12 (01:09:44):
So I finally got my claim to Mike.

Speaker 17 (01:09:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
What's amazing is that these Nasal Guard they're actually not
in the areas in DC to the High Crown areas.

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
And so this is a television show. This isn Trump doing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
What Donald Trump does is playing to the cameras at
the Royality TV show for him, but it has real
consequences because now he's talking about sending the National Guard
to Chicago, to New York City and other cities across
the country.

Speaker 32 (01:10:15):
I believe it's more than just playing to the cameras.
I know he has angles for whatever he does, but
we take this series. His military encroachment into Washington, DC
has encouraged other Capitol police federal police park police to
act much much more aggressively around this city than ever.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Some are saying, I'm not necessarily saying, but some are
saying that.

Speaker 32 (01:10:41):
These are ultimate pre steps into ultimately rounding black people
up and placing them into detention camps. This has happened
before in America. So when we see the attack on
our rights, when we see the disrespect of a black
mayor a black woman here, uh, we understand that these

(01:11:02):
acts are serious and their their encroachments, and they're leading
on the robot to possible detention camp for black people.
And that's why we have to push back and defend
the Fourth Amendment right away.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
And that's what we're here to do. We're here to
fight in.

Speaker 32 (01:11:19):
Court aggressively to hold individual officers directly accountable for the
actions they commit on the street. And right here on
the streets. There are many constitutional rights being violated right now,
including these checkpoints.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
I remember lay the campaign Vice president Kamala Harris said
that Dad Donald Trump was going to send American troops
into US cities, and people mocked her.

Speaker 8 (01:11:46):
Looks like she was correct. She was entirely correct.

Speaker 32 (01:11:51):
This is this military occupation in Crack Town cracked down.
It's in Washington, d C. Spreading to Baltimore and Chicago.
I go in and this is a challenge to black
lawyers and specifically that the black lawyer must must stand
up and confront the plans of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
And the President UH. This these acts in Washington, d C.

Speaker 32 (01:12:15):
Are further designed to to UH, to disparage the black
community and to make America feel that the problem in Washington,
d C is black people. Matter of fact, all of
these acts are designed to demonize black people, to oppress
them with law enforcement, and ultimately take the stage for

(01:12:37):
worse actions. So we have to push back now, and
we're put we're runing our sleeves up and we're pushing
back now. And that's why we're going to be at
the Metropolitan Police Department headquarters tomorrow at two o'clock because
we're going forward with strong legal actions against these individual officers.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
You know, there are a lot of black folks who
are out here ridiculing Vice President Harris saying, old folks
with the Democratic plantation, it's a waste of time to
vote because nothing well you will get from voting. That
Democrats and Republicans are the very same. But There's no
doubt that if Harris was in the old office, you

(01:13:20):
would not be seeing this. And what we said on
this show to those very same people is y'all need
to stop acting as if they're not going to come
after black people. And you had the people who were saying, oh, no,
they're going after the legals, the undocumented people. They're not
they can't do anything to black people, and we kept saying, yeah,
they can, and we're seeing this.

Speaker 8 (01:13:41):
They literally are.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Talking about sending Americans who are in prison to overseas prison.
You see what is happening. But they are deporting individuals
who have a legal right to be here. Well, Donald
Trumps made it clear they don't want they don't want
black people from the African diaspora to be in this country.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
They are remove.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Moving the legal protection for Haitian immigrants who are here
and for other African immigrants who are here. This is
a full on white nationalist movement and black folks that
will wake up and realize and like I've been saying,
they want to defund Black America. They want to destroy
the economic, the civil rights, the academic, the health, infrastructure,

(01:14:21):
everything that we fought for since the end of slavery.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
They are coming after and it's only been eight months.

Speaker 32 (01:14:31):
I think you're correct there, specifically as it pertains to
this Justice Department. I actually miss Assistant Attorney General of
the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, Miss Christen Clark,
she's the one that spearheaded the prosecution of the Ranking

(01:14:52):
County goon squad. I don't believe they would be prosecuted
under this administration.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
You are correct.

Speaker 32 (01:14:58):
This is a white crimise administration that intends are sending
a message and a tone that that white people are
back in charge in America. And just as they're doing
the brown people under ice, they're doing the black people
by other means. And so you know, this Justice Department,
the ones that opened up pattern and practice investigations into Memphis, Lexington, Mississippi,

(01:15:23):
Ranking County, Mississippi cities in Minnesota. This new Justice Department
has rolled back that Justice Department civil rights divisions progress
under Attorney General Christian Clark.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
It's disgraceful and we're in a fight.

Speaker 32 (01:15:42):
And my only lamenting in this hour is that I
think that we're becoming too naive as black people, and
specifically the black lawyers. I think that we're becoming too
naive and complacent. And Donald Trump has nothing to play
with and he's taken action, and we must stand up

(01:16:03):
and take strong actions back.

Speaker 25 (01:16:06):
Hey, it's going to watch Donald Trump read the next election.

Speaker 28 (01:16:09):
We're not going to just sit back and watch what's
happening in Texas and not respond to it.

Speaker 25 (01:16:14):
It's time to fight fire with fire.

Speaker 28 (01:16:16):
We're going to the ballot, We're going to registertier in
the state of California.

Speaker 25 (01:16:20):
But we're going to need your help. They're going to
throw millions and millions of dollars at us.

Speaker 28 (01:16:25):
They're going to do whatever it takes to defeat this
effort here in the Golden State. And that's why we
need your support. A dollar, five dollars, ten dollars, anything
you can afford. Let's stand up for democracy, let's stand
up for the rule of law. Let's stand up for
the principles to find the best of our nation.

Speaker 32 (01:16:43):
And we must stand up and take strong actions back. Mali,
last point here.

Speaker 8 (01:16:51):
And you know, people keep asking me, oh my god,
what do we do, what do we do? What do
we do?

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
And I keep saying, look, you have to maximize the vote.
We literally have to vote in massive numbers to stop
what is going on here, because they look, the Republicans
control the.

Speaker 8 (01:17:08):
House, they control the Senate, they control the White House.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Donald Trump is attacking public private corporations, public corporations. I mean,
they just I mean the actions that they're taking are
impacting every black nonprofit in this country. They are a
companies that literally are afraid to sponsor black events for
fear that Donald Trump was sick of the sec the

(01:17:33):
FCCDJ against them, and so again I just keep saying
the folk, listen, if you just write a complaint and
you don't use your vote, this is going to continue
because this is their agenda. This is probe between twenty five,
the use of the National Guard in DC other cities.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
It was in the document.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
We kept warning people, and there were black people who
after election said, well, rolland I didn't really.

Speaker 8 (01:18:00):
Think they meant it, And I'm like, yeah they did.

Speaker 32 (01:18:05):
Yes, We've heard of the King Alfred Plan and we
know that there are plans here to do away with us.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
We're not a wanted population.

Speaker 32 (01:18:13):
So I can't object to any means that would change
this situation. I know right now that we are outside
of suing and representing victims who are coming forth for
their rights being violated, Black Lawyers for Justice of the
Community organizations, Black Panther Movement, Afro Descendant Nation, and others.

(01:18:34):
We're engaging in community police patrols this week. We're going
to be out on the streets and we have to
now put our bodies on the line and to do
legal police patrol and legal observations so.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
It can happen. It is happening.

Speaker 32 (01:18:53):
And there was times in the past when people didn't
believe that they would be led all the way to
the gas chambers, but eventually they got there and and
and so those that are calling out the alarm are correct.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
And as a man, I know that.

Speaker 32 (01:19:09):
This administration's actions they're race based, that the actions against
the mayor of the District of Columbia, a black woman,
Muriel Bowser.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
That they're that they're race based.

Speaker 32 (01:19:21):
And I as a man, a black man, as an attorney,
and those that are with me, Attorney Donald Temple and others,
we're not We're not going to go down without a
fight matter. We're going to stand up. And that's what
we're doing. We're standing up and we're fighting back.

Speaker 8 (01:19:37):
Large Malice Shamas really appreciate it. Thanks so much.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 9 (01:19:42):
Hello, Well, now you know any attention is more than
just touched down all running three point play. When the
National Guard is on the street looking for people of color,
I told you they were not just coming after Mexican people.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
We Father twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
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