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August 28, 2025 • 86 mins
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There's more to life than just making money.

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There's integrity. That's what you stand for. What you think.

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I think you gotta be a little crazy sometimes in
this world to get what you want.

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Soon somebody that tread somebody's kidnapped our sign.

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You want to do this.

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I got into this by myself. I'm gonna get out
of it by myself.

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in right here, and I don't try it. Nothing funny.

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From At the very same time that America refused to
give the Negro in the land through an Act of Congress,
our government was giving away millions of acres of land
in the West and the Midwest.

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Lord.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
But not only did they give the land, they built
grant colleges the government money to teach them how to farm.
Not only that they provided county agents conserve of that
expertise and parment. Not only that they provided low interest
rates in order that they could mechanize that farm. Not

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only that, but they many of these people.

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Are many hundreds of dollars in federal subset. Is not
the pump and They are the very.

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People telling the black man and you all to lift
himself by his own footstraps.

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This is what we are faced with, and this is
a reality now when we come to Washington.

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In this campaign, we are coming to get our check.

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Reparations has been here and have been working on for generations.
From the very beginning, people were knocking on the door saying,
we are old for our labor.

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Callie House, she was born a slave.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
She went out all around the community to other black
people that they all asked the government to get somebody
because they were pulled.

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And they were desperate.

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By the nineteen hundred, she had three hundred thousand dues
paying members. It was the largest organization of black folk
that had existed. Pretty soon, her activities came to the
attention of the government and they convicted her a fraud.
The federal charge was that at a time when you

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should have known that the federal government would have never
give negroes anything, why would you telling negroes they should
organize to try to get something. They sent her to
prison to serve one year term. She got out of prison,
she went back to Nashville to the Shotgun House.

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She got uterine cancer, and she died.

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You can draw a direct line from Kelly House to
the reparations movement.

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I want to lean back and thinks he's sports, Oh
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Not everything is great, but you make the most douvin
You gotta know who's on your team.

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And when God says I'm on your team, then you
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Give God the praise that are doing them to get better.
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Did you see it?

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Black women made history again and diversity was front and
centered on the world stage. Did you see it the
long lines that polling places around the country as we
voted like our lives depended on.

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Did you see it the way we put culture and
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The way black culture continued to fuel our entertainment and unity?

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Did you see do you see it?

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Smute advocacy, agitation and resistance to protect our communities and
the progress made over the past one hundred and sixteen years.
Do you see it classrooms that include black history as
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Because it is?

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Who you see it? More inclusion?

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Do you see it?

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We do.

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We have a vision to adance.

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The black Hole. You gotta get the whole sixty Get
in the hole. I gotta tell you we got some
bricky NFL news. If you don't know by now, how
about those cowboys, Well, how about them?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Jarry Jones is a multi multi billionaire, but when it
comes to winning Super Bowl, he's in.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I don't want to win. He doesn't want to win, so.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
He decided to let go one of the best players
on the defensive side of the football since and two toe.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Jones like the parfas.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Listen up, kind of dragon's gonna drop it down for you.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
History.

Speaker 14 (18:34):
The Dallas Cowboys traded Micah Parsons to the Green Bay
Packers in exchange for Kenny Clark in two first round picks.
This ends a huge saga in Dallas. Michael Parsons has
requested a trade. He had become disgruntled with the Cowboys,
specifically Jerry Jones, and now he joins the Green Bay

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Packers and they immediately become a contender in the NFC.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
He is signing a four year, one hundred and eighty
eight million dollar contract.

Speaker 14 (19:08):
He becomes the richest non quarterback in NFL history.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
This means for Dallas fans. Within a calendar year.

Speaker 14 (19:17):
On the NBA side, the MAVs traded Luca and now
the Cowboys are trading their franchise player in Micah Parsons
to the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Well that the story. You heard it first.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm telling your business posts bring it to you from
the black hole.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
You got to bring in a black hole to you.
How about those Cowboys?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Well, I gotta tell you, when you're a multi billionaire
like Jerry Jones, sometimes.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
You don't want to win.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Sometimes you don't want to win. I got to tell
you a lot of good things happening in the world
up in and of football. We're just about a week
away from the kickoff. But sometimes when you think about
teams that want to win and you have all the
money in the world. The Dallas Cowboys, then the Walks
NFL franchise valued over ten billion dollars, and Michael Parson's
the trades to the Green Bay Packers and the extension

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made him the eighth highest non paid NFL quarterback. The
univors get the black hole getting black home for praise.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I gotta tell you, it's amazing. He's a great player.
They did this back in the day.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
It's spend, but they signed at the vision of two
games and they went on to win the Super Bowl
with this time.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Didn't know he's been signing.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
But you think about defense winning champions for some of
the NFL's top defenders that now just started.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
To get paid. What about guys that plaid forty years ago.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Now they get paid enough in one year that some
guys made their whole lifetime. All stare in that will work,
I gotta tell you. While quarterbacks broke the fifty million
dollar terms of average annual value, years ago. Defensive players
are now just getting paid.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
They're just now getting paid in the black hole.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Get a lot of NFL with the players down playing
in the black hole, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
GM.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
The offseason very elucinitive for those I opening knew contracts
since the end of Super Bowl fifty nine. The Great
Miles Gear, Miles Proping, think about it, Miles Hearing, next
Cropley in Big C East brokes records for the highest
billion nine quarterbacks in league history. In the black hole,

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you got to get the back goal to get that
kind of money. That second part to buy your American
Express black Park. Don't leave home without it. Especy goes
to the back home. And then you got Daniel Hunter
also as his name unto the list.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Check it in between those two.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
T J.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Watt that good away got the money, and then Madison
pass the ball, and now the Greig supreame Bay Packers.
Macca Parses.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
You gotta get that, Brothers and praise. He sat on
his own terms. He wanted to get paid with his word,
and now you get it.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
The great mac Up Parsons set the joint the party
for the NFL's highest played players. The Cowboys trade parts
to the Green Bay Packers and the star Fast user
has agreed to a historic extensions of the new team,
the new deal and deal with that fix in one
of the highest made non quarterbacks getting hit all historics

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and he deserves the money. If you can get the money,
you can get the money. Not his edge, Paul Jones
out of Dallas Cowboy Dif it's a player on the
front line, I'm not talking about d Sanders on the
front line. He's a great dance rusher and now he's
getting his money. At the same time, a lot of
the rules of the NFL have changed. Players they they

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lift weights and staying ship year round. It's a year
round business. And when you make that kind of money,
you gotta you gotta stay.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
You ready for it.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
I know there's a lot of things going on in
the world at Bisy sports that's more important.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Nick turns them, oh b three point play. Oh man,
Well he's going all the league.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
And I gotta tell you that higher the NFL defensive players,
I gotta look at some of them. I'll get you
the top five, the number five backs. Cross me with
the Las Vegas Raiders. He's at thirty five point five
million dollars. Number four Danielle Hundreds with the Houston Texas
at thirty five twinty six million dollars. And then Cleveland

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this is for you, the great Miles Garrett of the
Cleveland Browns at forty million dollars. In the tea Jay Watt,
the Pittsburgh stelis part of that, still Curtin at forty
one million dollars, and now new fighting out the frozen
Toctor mil Partas forty eight million dollars, and Jared Jones

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said he wants the Dallas Cowboys fast to buy as
as many tickets as they can at the rage. At
the rate of the way things are going on Dallas.
People talking about newcap Gonta Stephens, best state of Texas
and the Dallas matter to buy to fly in Los
Angeles to the Lakers in showtime. Well they're those short

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time at Green Bay. But now you get Mike and
Love Love out of Utah State and then at Liberty
High School in bakers Field. He's gonna be a star
quarterback with the Green Bay Packers. But now they have
another guy on defense that could really shift the side
of the field back and Parsons would do that he
reminds me a lot of nick Bosover with the forty

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nine ers total contact value, I'll go to number five
to one, Joshua Hines, Allan Jacksonville and Jack Ross one hundred.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
And forty one point three five million. Number four Chris.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Jones in Kansas City Hues one hundred and fifty eight
point seventy five million, Dallas Timber three.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Degrade Miles Yeay to Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
This is for you, the Cleveland Browns one hundred and
seatony million dollars. Number two Nick both Ups of the
San Francisco forty nine ers one hundred and seventy million dollars,
bet better.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Than all of them. Micah paus Dam was get what
No he got dreads of Green Bay Biker.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Get the whole, Get the whole one hundred eighty eight
billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Not he can buy a fourth sacred gas. Imagine all
the cheese hits to get buy a green bab with
a hundred eighty eight mega dollars. Well, that's by I'm
digging with it.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
But there's some things that are more important than sports,
and by figing, I gotta think what's called the Big
Z Paul also known as the Big Sea Timeout mixed up,
Michael Eric Tyson, he didn't sign one hundred and eighty
eight Magion dollars.

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You carry so long.

Speaker 15 (25:44):
And I could see you fight, and that's how you
got so strong. When you watch a long West say
you can't keep folding on. You can't keep folding on
because you're tired of being so strong.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
You don't have to walk with your burdens all along.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I will take you out of it.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Is miseries, not your home.

Speaker 16 (26:10):
You don't have to feel like your alone. You don't
have to feel like your alone. You are not alone.
Who I will help you carry?

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Hey, family, thank you for tuning into the Jamal Brown podcast.
Let's be clear. It is said that Iron Shoppings, Iron
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and he is spending the bottle talking about everything in

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terms of present day hip hop culture, the illiteracy of
the Black church, the critical thinking that is necessary in
the country, and the dumbing down that is being celebrated
a top form of Jesus. Everything that is offensive. Starts
with our mind, Howard Thurman said, with head and heart.

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A lot of us are taking our hearts and leaving
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every person who thinks about things differently, dances to the
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can't draw, can't paign, and can't sing. I want them
to be a part of it, and I need you
to share with it this conversation. If it will not
change your mind, it will at least large you. The
richest white boys dropped out. Get Martus Zuckerberg finished the
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dropped out of the scoops. You're dropping out of harbor.
That's differently dropping out of potum. But the point is
they pursue their dreams and ambitions. Not like Us is
DEI saying uniquroes are not like us superior white folks.
Not like us is arguing that Republicans have got a
copyright on what is exactly moral about this community.

Speaker 17 (28:17):
Not like Us is one of the most perfectly fascist
statements that has been articulated, and it happens to be
in a black voice fascism.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Ain't this an interesting moment on MSNBC. Thus fascism has
come to your neighborhood. They are banning books. They are
banning therefore black bodies, and banning black brains and banning
black intelligence. Voting is still a critical means to exercise
democratic small The energy and democracy is at stake, and

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the vote is critical. People die for.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
What more was Michael Eric Disen? You gotta pay.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Attention to Wikipedia chat GPT. None of them got as
much knowledge as the black Albert Einstein, the Michael Eric
dysonness in the building. Thank you, sir, Reverend Doctors. You
know Bryan my vibe made it. I'm going out Bryan's
I can't now. If I get to the pool pit,
I might go over to him. Oh listen, lord, you

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gotta get that. I needed you to come in and
just to a crash course on America's anti intellectualists. M Oh,
because of where it is that we are right now,
nobody is Thank you, man. I'm so glad you started
a very Look there's a famous book Richard Hofsta in
nineteen sixty three anti intellectualism in America. Now, he wasn't

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talking about negros one of the advantages of racism and
Jim Crow all the villains were white? Do all the
crazy folks were white?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Right?

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (29:56):
Raazy and for eventhesis here because we don't want to
dismiss mental health. But the point is that when he's
talking about it in nineteen sixty three anti intellectualism, he
ain't responded to what's going on in the culture. Now
he's talking about the fact that they chose Dwight D.
Eisenhower over a greater.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Candidate on the Democratic side who could have presented a
far more compelling argument in defensive democracy. So you know
if back then they talk about Dwight Eisenhower as an
avatar of what's in competence, Yes, what we talk about
right now in this culture solved the allergy to intellectual engagement,

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the allergy to sophistication, not in terms of abstract discourse
that nobody can understand. Because Jesse Jackson said something to me,
was he said, if you say something I can't understand,
that's a failure of your education. Not mind why never
forgotten that? Why I never forgotten that? And look they're
arenas in what you've got to do, all that the
insurrection from the Uti Nolargians, and blah bla blah. You

(30:59):
are doing it. But the thing is, if you can't
master it, so you can't explain it, then nobody else
can understand what you're saying. You don't understand it yourself.
So anti intellectualism is sometimes fed by an unnecessary addiction
to obscure discourse as opposed to having the courage to
be clear and to be lucid as somebody who has

(31:21):
given their life to the academy. Tell me what your
thoughts are when you are alone from thinking about the
dismantle of the Department Educate. Oh my lord, it is astonishing.
It is astonishing that a hunter an onslaught a siege

(31:42):
of the most merciless unintelligence that this nation has seen
at the highest office in the land. This man is
proud to be unmolested by a Lane, and the woman
who is the symbolic head of the Department of Education,
her sole purpose is to wwe dismantle it, to have

(32:06):
it as a wrestling match between forces pitched against fascism
on the one hand, autocratic dispensation on the other and
the authoritarian refusal to acknowledge the legitimacy of critical intelligence.
Why because the biggest threat to an autocrat is not
the biggest threat to an authoritarian is somebody who knows

(32:26):
you ain't doing the right thing. And for the Department
of Education, and people think, well, you know, it's just
a kind of bureaucratic formality.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
No it ain't.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
This is where a large part of arguments and court
of cases about justice and injustice, about racial injustice, happen
at that level. So when you dis missed the Department
of Education, you ain't just getting rid of a formal
bureaucratic procedure. You're getting rid of an avenue that allows
us to adjudicate claims about what is just and unjust

(32:58):
in America. I really wrestle with where it is that
we are as a country and as a country seemingly
of a she uh and not of goats. I am
a concerned doctor Dyson about the absence or the disconnect

(33:21):
of intellectual social engagement up the black pool pit where
the white polepit are willfully in. Yeah, yeah, that's what
we not even ordered in the client. I want you
to really challenge, Yeah, the thought process of the Black

(33:42):
poolpit in the Black Church to really think through their theology.
They're hermeneutic and what it is that we're leading our
people too, because it's almost silence of the lambs. It
is silence of the lembs. And I don't know who's
playing Anthony Hopkins. Somebody is out here eating people alive. Yeah,

(34:03):
So here's the thing, and I'm glad you said it
that way.

Speaker 19 (34:07):
You know, I go to some of these places because
like you, I'm a black person in these spots, in
spaces where actual, real existing Black people live, and a
lot of them go.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Is that all we don't do is sitting around here
and talk.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (34:22):
What? Well?

Speaker 5 (34:24):
The white boys and the white folk, Yeah, got their intellectuals,
but they don't ask them. Are they're gonna sener out
and talk as I can you frame a document called
Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 20 (34:34):
And legitimately validate what we believe into intellectually critical, digestible
moments or sophisticated, irritate expositions about race, about DDI, about class,
about culture, about religion.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
So they use their white intellectuals to further their goals
and we crapping on. Now, I'm not saying that that
happens every time in every case, but it happens where
I feel the heat of that resistance. Now, some of
us have been egg hans who are horrible is it black,
and no doubt about it, we know that they are
bad at athletes. But for the most part, most scholars

(35:12):
have been reared in black communities that have taught them
the necessity of bridging the gap between what they do
in the classroom and what happens in the larger culture. Now,
not everybody is a public intellectional. They're not going to
go on TV, they're not going to explain these things
in public, but they're writing the books that inform those
who do. Tupac said, I might not change the world,

(35:33):
but I bet I'll spark the brain that will. And
so sparking the brain that changes is extremely important. So
when we see folk like of Freddie Haynes, of Jamal Bryant,
and I'm saying as I ain't said this because I've
said it behind you back. Somebody just asked me for
my list of the greatest preachers in the country, and
you and Freddie Haynes at the top of that list.
That kind of rhetorical jail let's not heard that.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I see.

Speaker 21 (36:00):
It.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I'm made. But look at here that kind of rhetorical
genius that you all possess, that ability you talk about hermeneutic,
the ability to interpret the signs of the time, so
to speak, and to be able to clearly articulate the
base and the focus and the energy that we need
to have. That's a gift. And so but it's necessary

(36:24):
that those who possess like gifts, similar gifts are not
moved to make.

Speaker 22 (36:31):
Success starts when the right people surround you, Teammates who
push you, leaders who lift you, and allies who never
let you settle, share, the partners who share your dreams,
and the experts who know how to make you real.
Find your people and you find your win. That's the

(36:52):
power of us. US Bank, proud partners of.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
The PLL and WLL similar gifts are not moved to
make those similar moves. You're in the pool kit you
have ecclesiastical orgasm, but you have no sanctification beyond those
walls of those who don't have access to you. You
ain't making it playing for those but the old people.
You say, put it what the ghost can get it,

(37:17):
and so they can do that rhetorically. They can talk
about theology that way, they can speak about some homiletical
exegetical moment, but they can't break it down that. If
you say, Jesus is the light of the world and
Homeboy can't keep his lights on, what's the disconnect? And
so for me, I challenge those of us who are
scholars to go into the world to help the world

(37:39):
understand the black world. Right, the larger world for sure,
but in our own worlds, we need to help people
understand why it is that these issues are important and
why they need to be taking them up fascism. Ain't
this an interesting moment on MSNBC. Thus, or fascism has
come to your neighborhood. They are banning books, They are
banning their or black bodies, and banning black brains and

(38:03):
banning black intelligence. And what we have to do is
to resuscitate them, to recuperate them. Our churches should be
warehouses for the intelligentia of the community, where we are
teaching the very books that they are banning in these schools.
If we could do that, we could change our worlds
in a very powerful and tangible fession. Now I love it.

(38:23):
I wanted to ask you if you could speak to
for one moment, almost a as a elder brother, as
a statesman in the community, what would your conversation if
is not me sitting in this chail, if as Shannon
Sharp sitting in this chair, you would say what to me? Well, say,

(38:47):
she got a head of an autist. Wonder one? You know,
Chase got a club Chay, say and I've been on
club Say see now I was on Club Chase before
they were doing it like he's doing it now. You
wear pretend yet waist you got pretend? Let me tell
you one thing. Okay, I want to fret because can't

(39:07):
that change the game? Battle? Love it so, But I
think a Shannon Sharp, to his credit, allows people to
come on the show. Some people criticize him for this,
but the beautiful saying he lets you stretch out. He
gonna let you say what you got to say. None
of these sound bites where oh I was misinterpreted. No,

(39:29):
you spoke for about ten minutes, how I was some
I don't know what else it was though. That's on
your right, and that's a genius document. It's all right.
Similar to you. You know how to guide the conversation.
You know how to get people to bring out their
best and the best hosts are capable of doing that.
You want to have just enough to tease what somebody believes,

(39:51):
but you want to give them space either to surrender
to a larger moment and purpose that illuminates the context
for everybody. And you want to be able to have
the possibility of being clear in a context where you
have the space to break it down. And I think
Shannon Sharp did that in an has done that in
a brilliant way. And we know his recent troubles and trials.

(40:13):
Thank god that stuff was at least legally situated. I
think he'll get back on the path. But what he
and o Cho Senko are doing that revolutionize that platform.
Now the question is what do we do, what advantage
do we take of that moment. It's not about simply
pop culture, though that's a critically important You are a
figure in pop culture, you a dress pop culture. That's

(40:35):
extremely important because that's where people live, and we live
by analogy and metaphor. It's like this The Real Housewives
of or it's like this what we're doing on TikTok.
So we have to take those things seriously. But at
the same time, we got to say, but at the
end of the day, what do we do with algorithms,
what we do with social media, what we do with
club shash, what do we do with a podcast? We

(40:56):
begin to formulate ideas and principles that allow ordinary every
citizens to have a sense of how much power they possess,
the things they have to do, and what the agenda
is for their daily life. Now that's that's critical. I
gave away DOT maybe two million dollars worth of scholarships

(41:16):
to HBCUs for students out of our congregation, to two
hundred and thirty five student We're now giving away scholarships
for young people to get a train. I saw you
on that. That was great. I want you to talk about,
even from the academy, why we need to let the

(41:37):
left hand know what the right hand is doing. Because
there's going to be a need of three hundred thousand
plumbers in the next four years. That's going to be
a need of two.

Speaker 23 (41:49):
Hundred and seventy five thousand h back right right, right,
right right two years, and we don't have anybody in
position to be able to do it and make it.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Can y'all writ notion loans? Come on? I mean, you know.
So the thing is, look, we need the boys and
we need Booker T. So Booker T in terms of
sitting down your pair where you are the very ethos
in other words, the practicality of capital at that point,
that's that's extremely important. We ain't getting down with his
educational gender, but the boys takes care of that. But

(42:23):
we need both and not either or, And we don't
need to look down our noses at people who actually
made a living. Many of us in the black middle
class and the upper class rolled those elevators and escalators
up based upon the capital procure by people who were
trains men and women in our That's right, right, they
were doing the hard work. My daddy had to drop

(42:45):
out in the eighth grade. My daddy from all been
a Georgia right after rolled here. And my daddy was
blue black, and so I saw I joke about bringing
light skin back, but I saw the right I've helped
with you, Drake, hold on, we'll get to you a minute.
So the boy, I'll be sure, thank you Quincy for introducing.

(43:05):
But the thing is is that I saw how he
was mistreated by black people and treating him like a simy,
like he was an angel like he was a throwaway
because he was a dark skinned black man. So I
saw that and what those consequences are that that made
a huge imprint of my bid. He lived by the
bron and the sweat of his brow. He was a

(43:26):
muscular man, and he did work, and it was honorable work.
And he went to work every day as an arc welder.
And you know a factory in Detroit, a well breaking
drum factor. That is honorable work. And men and women
who choose not to go to higher education must have
a space and a place where they are allowed to

(43:46):
learn a trade and do something with it. Guess what,
because the richest white boys dropped out, didn't hard as
up A Berg finished, and did as Bean.

Speaker 24 (43:53):
Jobson did, did Bill Gates finish? They all drum and
they dropped out of the schools. They dropped out of Harvard.
That's differently driving out of podium. But the point is
they pursue their dreams and ambitions.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
So we've got to open up some space for ordinary
citizens who are working class and others who make choices
about trades to allow them to exist in that world.
Because look, only a small percentage of the Americans are
out of educate. Right, this is a very small percentage.
So that means the rest of the world can't be
dissed and dismissed, and in our communities we have to

(44:26):
embrace them, and especially one of the great places to
do that is in our church. No, that's great with Brown.

Speaker 25 (44:32):
University kissing the wearing emultuary somethingly erasing the under this administration,
what do you think is the future for HBC.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Well, we got to continue and persist. The thing is
is that my pastor, Reverend Doctor Frederick Sampson, the Manigress
in Peace, used to say.

Speaker 26 (44:54):
We have already come through of what we've come to.
So this ain't that news, right, you know what, I
got a whole stood it. That's no God chip to
witch us.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
That's right right. And he said, just to chase this
little rabbit. What he was talking about, the kid in
the gutta reading the right in the garden who had
lost his mind. He said, it's all right to visit
the graveyard, but you ain't got no business making it
Joe address. So anyway, we're just giving you a little
Just like he's dropping lyrics from the jay Z, we
dropping lyrics from the Green Papers. Because they said, some

(45:29):
great stuff. We'll get to Willie Martinon's like, all right,
will book us a god six simple the zols who
are martin borious, Come on, guys, come on, look at
see this is like his man is des so he
can run again reading this, he can run together. But
the thing is is that when we think about where
we are as a people and struggling to find our

(45:53):
own footing in the midst of a culture, we got
to remember we built these institutions, these the HBC use.
We built them when we had nothing in the bank.
We built them when we had vision and imagination. And
we leverage that vision in imagination against what they could
do to us. Howard Thurpin said, refused the temptation to
scale down your dreams to the event, which is your

(46:16):
immediate experience. This being you confronting right now can not
exhaust the infinite possibility that God can bring to you.
So he said, our slave four parents imagined a different world.
They were enslaved, but they begin to imagine something beyond them.
And if they could do that with the little they had,
my God, what could we do with these great institutions

(46:37):
one hundred or so? Up with them and we have
to remember that unless God resigned, God said in charge. Yes,
either you believe what you said all in years when
it was convenient to say it, now when you need it,
as doctor SAMs, you say, you don't need a spare
tie to the carpet. So if the card unbroke down,
do we have a spare time? And if that spair

(46:58):
tire the kind of faith, the kind of hope, the
kind of belief that we have always proclaimed to be
the basis of our existence. So we ain't going nowhere.
This man got to leave in three and a half,
in whatever years it is. And God is still God,
and people chooses who they will. Now when people say, well,
is God gonna put them? God ain't putting nobody in
office voters did. Don't blame that on God, because if

(47:21):
you say God put your man or woman in office,
that what happens when your man in office? Don't make it?
Did God put them in? Did God put the person in? Now?
Leave God out of that. God gives you the principles
that God wants to see prevail. Justice, mercy, kindness, compassion
is up to us because it's a co creation. What
will we do to choose to either embody those principles

(47:44):
or deny them. And I think, look, as bad as
these people are, they ain't the worse that we don't say.
There's a great book by a guy named Stephen han
Hahn called Illiberal America, and he trace us is us
illiberal God? Because liberalism is not liberal verse conserv As
you know, liberal democracy means we're dealing with civil rights
and civil liberties and the ability of us to enjoy democracy. Right,

(48:06):
Illiberal means anything that creates tensions and challenges. So anything
that creates intolerance of the acceptance of the office. And
he said, y'all thinked that's something that comes about every
now again, he said, that's built into the architecture of
the nature of democracy. So calm down now. It doesn't
mean we don't take it seriously. But it's been there

(48:29):
all along. It's been incipient and in coot to a
certain degree, in coot in this particular age, but it's
been repeated from time and time and again. And when
you remember that, then you can just say, all right,
we got enough resource here to fight back against as
fast as we did it before, we can do it again.
That's what David did, right. I've already faced this giant.

(48:50):
Now it was a bear, but it was some melts.
And I can't wear your armor, or I can't use
your civil rights discourse. I can't use what you did
all but I can take up the five smooth stones.
I got the top ten hits. I'm articulated now the
understanding of the world and challenge the infrastructure of evil

(49:11):
that I see.

Speaker 27 (49:12):
Defortment, if we were to corral all of the black
leaders into the room of the Civil Rights elected Black Caucus,
heads of Black denominations and you are doing the master class,
we would tell them the two things you think our
leaders need to be focused on right now is more.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Getting negroes to vote number one. I know that sounds
to this a look think about this, the woman who
was against that man in the last election. Do you
actually think anything like what we see going on now
would occur? I doubt it. But a lot of people
ain't no difference. They' about the same. The parties are

(49:53):
about the same. We don't man don't make because of
it different.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
Right.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
So the thing is is, then voting is steal a
critical means to exercise democratic small The energy and democracy
is at stink, and the vote is critical. People die
for it. I know people say, well, don't tell young
people what the price was to be paid, because there's
some issues that are involved right now. It's not just

(50:19):
about the past, it's about the president. I agree with them,
But at the end of the day, people shed blood
for that rank, and you ought to remember that. Don't
live in what Gourbidal called the United States of ambies.
Revote your citizenship in that term and join the kingdom
of mythic. Take thou these pms and Mike Thin as
a memorial so that when your kid's excuse what it

(50:42):
was that you confronted, you can tell them that story.
But voting is critical because we have used that vote
to leverage the authority of our community against others. And
then secondly, they having life long learning, not just education.
Education is as the formal establishment of the possibility that

(51:03):
there's schooling. Let me put it that way. Schooling is
a formal establishment of the infrastructure of learning that we
perpetuate legacies of democracy. That's cool. The lifelong learning means
even if you ain't in schooling, you're reading, you're reflecting,
and you're thinking, and why is that important? And why
would I say that to that group because we've been
captive of let's just say white evangelical pie. Remember Reverend

(51:26):
Jackson again the program when he said you got you got,
Martin D. King Junior own the wall with Philly Graham
and your four ooh Jabal Bryant to preach that. Okay,
I expect to hear that and soon get the next
three weeks. Oh yes, yeah, he will break that.

Speaker 28 (51:41):
He will deep his up that that rumway is too long,
that rumway is way too and all he will take
that doctor he that of it is to say, so,
the point is that here we are replicating God said it.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
I believe that that's settles it. That kind of biblical
literalism is a mark of white. So premiscy invading your theology,
because how do you go be literal literal about a
word you couldn't read for ninety years you an enslave
met you couldn't even read. Now, black folks read even
when they came reading, she read him, or we know

(52:15):
how to read. Black folks got the capacity to engage
in cultural hermeneutics. But the point is is that you
couldn't literally read what was on paper, so you had
to rely upon spirit, insight, inspiration. And I would say
to that group, if we can get our people in
a particular arena where we are alert and alive to

(52:36):
the things we need to study and to engage and
to internalize, we could change the world. James Baldwin never
went to college, but Mike got colleges and university study.
Who he is wasn't paul O. James Baldwin never went
to college. No, though James Ball is a high school graduate. Yes,
what I'm saying this way, man hold on, hold on

(52:56):
one of the greatest Wait wait, wait are you saying?
He went and fed out that he ain't never been.
I never knew that to this Mohamo, I went backwards
at folk. Listen here. I know, I don't know what
we're doing, and I know I'm breaking protocol. But today
is his birthday. So here is a man who said

(53:17):
Henry James on the one hand, and the King James
Bible on the other.

Speaker 29 (53:22):
And he generated word and sentences that needed commas to
slow him down, that needed grammar to regulate the cadence
of his high intelligence.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
This was a man so deeply ensconced in the American
literary tradition that his genius is imunmovable. This man never
went to college for but that's the kind of genius
that he is. And Ralph Elison only went to Tuskegee
for a semesteria team to do that. And then he said,
I can't pay that money, and I'm trying to be

(53:55):
a jazz musician. So when you bad at your kids,
I'm gonna drop out. I'm gonna spect these lyrics. You know,
Ralph Ellison went for about a year year and a half,
dropped out, And look at the genius that fat man possesses.
If God gave it to you, can't nobody take it from.
But what did they both? And if they nurtured it?
They ran? They read incessantly, They ran everything they could

(54:19):
get their hands on. Their intellectual curiosity was astonishing. So
can you imagine having those figures if you learn to
read and you learn to think, Look Homer to neither
reading or write. An't nobody gonna call them a village?
Myles dropped out in the eighth grade. It's only right
that I was born to use mikes and the stuff

(54:39):
that I write, it's even tougher than this. I'll take
it right into a new plateau through Rapslow. My rhyming
is a vitamin held without a cancer. I mean, look
at the metaphorical intensity, the symbolic analogies that they articulate.
The best of our tradition has not necessarily gone through school,
but they've been schooled in a university of consciousness that

(55:03):
God bequeaps to them. From the moment it leaves the factory.

Speaker 21 (55:06):
Critical parts of your engine are building up the coasts
and devout. Preventing these damaging composts is enough. We revolutionized
a way to reverse that valubeling the store protect university
of consciousness that God.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Bequeaths to them. I need a nat, I needed a gnat,
a rear bull, and a gatoring. Tell me what your
thought is? You often quote Tupac. Yeah, I wanted to
hear your analysis of present day hip hop. Oh man,

(55:43):
See I'm old man, you.

Speaker 30 (55:45):
Know I like to understand what they say. And sometimes look,
I joke, I said, look we in Atlanta. You know
I love you far to wrong wrong drong u travel.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Niggels. But what you're saying and you're a genius. Now,
I'm using that facetiously because one of the reasons they
obscure their language is because when they were clear, they
were still being hurt and harmed by a police state
that understood exactly what they were saying. So sometimes they
obscured that language to communicate among themselves. So I respect

(56:21):
that the Blues did the same thing. It's a sensibility.
Some of this postmodern hip hop is about ethos, it's
about the emotion, it's about intensity. So I respect that.
But I also respect the hide literacy. We're talking about
James Balwin. A lot of these kids who are geniuses
ain't even going to college. If it's amazing what James

(56:41):
Balmer did, and it is, and it's amazing what Ralph
Ellison did, and it is. I mean to think about
jay Z and Ben the coullege. God forgive me for
about brash delivery, but I remember vividly what these trees
did to me. Imagine me allowing you to nitpicking me,
portray me like a pick of me. I mean, I mean,
you know, bust around. These these cats didn't go to college. Tupac.

(57:04):
Somebody wake me. I'm dreaming. I started as a sea,
the seamen swimming upstream, planted in the room while streaming
on the top was my mop's muck, my pop's my
mama hollering stopped from a single drop.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
This is what they got.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Not to disrespect my people, But my papa was a loser,
only planning, and for Mama was the blinker and the fuser.
And even as a seed, I could see his plan
for me stranded on welfare, another broken family. I mean,
when you think about the high intelligence, Tupac read stuff
on literary theory. I went to the place where he
had his books, and this cat was a genius. He's

(57:42):
reading about Stanislausty, he's reading high art, he's reading about
the nature of how you craft a scene. This is
the kind of stuff he consumed. So when we think
about hip hop now.

Speaker 31 (57:56):
The golden age was, let's just say it, in the
you know, late eighties, but especially in the early nineties
when you got Nas and Jay and Biggie I be Biggie.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
I mean, who to ef with this page of B
of five forty six in the morning, tuck a dog
and ball. I'm yawn and wipe the call from my
eye so I can see he's ay j me And
why this this guy's writing novels, right? But you could
fill the pipe and bleeding right. You could do Jay
Z's cadence right. This one is for you, This one

(58:27):
is for you. I'm cutting it up. When nas is
articulating his high cerebral index of his consciousness of the world,
it's astonishing, or Lauren Hill, even after all my logic
and my theory, I add a cuss word. So you
ignorant niggas, excuse me, negroes hear me, right, we didn't
cut that, you ignorant negroes hearing. So my point is

(58:49):
there is a level of genius and control and astonishing
insight literariness of the best of our tradition. Now, I
ain't gonna lie. Some of this stuff is lost, you know.
But look, most of gospel music is whack. Let's just
be real. Most of most of us is. You know,
what's going on in opera, It ain't hidden. The thing

(59:12):
is that it's the greatness of the greatest figures that
remind us of something Jesus will neighbors say, no step way,
He told you not this morning. So you or you're
singing theologically suspect music, right, and some of it is uninteresting.
Just because you converted, don't mean you ain't got to
be interested correct right, and so the best of our

(59:35):
artists have often understood that hip hop still maintains a
level of high intelligence to underground and hip hop and
is powerful. And the argument I make too to come
to say, the biggest beef in recent time, and an
unprecedented beef that got into the world was to Kendrick
versus Drake beef. And a lot of people expect me

(59:56):
to supply all you love Kendrick go I do. These
are social conscience person hit I do, But I thought
what happened to Drake was unfair in this sense. The
song is the song, whatever you think about it and
how they got down and who won and all that
I am at DoD But not like Us is the
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to exterminate, deport and get rid of undesirable emness. Not
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that Republicans have got a copyright on what is exactly
moral about this community.

Speaker 17 (01:00:40):
Not like us is one of the most perfectly fascist
statements that has been articulated, and it happens to be
in a black voice. So I was at the Super Bowl,
Trump in the stands Chndrick on the field. And even
though Kendrick is articulating ideas to challenge the hegemony of
a narrow Americans, at the end of the day have

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not liked a cinema is a.

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Manicheen distinction between us and them that replicates the very
thing it claims to attain. Just take to my out
of the stand, don't even drop, Just throw it across
the studio. This stotic, I mean, this is this is
why it is necessary to have conversations between people. If

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I could see a Jamaal Bryant speaking to a Drake
or a Kendrick Lamar and to have that kind of
genius and knowledge you have rhetorical because both of your
rhetorical geniuses, but where do they meet? Can we understand
what the rhetorical genius of a Jackie Thompson versus what's
going on with brow Rilla or a Genus Stewart up

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against a sexy ring and to understand because all of
you are geniuses at rhetoric, but what is the function, purpose,
and point of that genius and that rhetoric and how
can when we use it to satisfy a liberation demand
for our people. Now that is the mean that everything
is judge against it, because sometimes it doesn't want to cry.

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Sometimes you just want to go off steam. Sometimes you
just want to And I think joy is a powerful
radical resistance to fascism. I think the fact that you
have pleasure in the midst of the pain is itself
a political argument against squeezing life down to its narrowest moments.
So I think that's beautiful. But at the end of
the day, if we could see those generations come together

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and across generational poplination of ideas, that would be a
remarkable and revolutionary thing. With our care, I got a go,
but I can't leave because you got me all the
way in the hip hop. I'm looking for my walkman.
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of the legacy of getting You know, it's a complicated legacy.

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And first of all, the work is the work. What
he did is what he did in terms of fostering
the expression of a marriaging blind of a victy. Those
two alone by themselves have changed the landscape. But then
he throw in showdicey. He's throwing I mean so many

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others that this man facilitated. So at that level, the
level of the work is a genius. Now, the hatred
of the misogyny against women, especially women of color, is
real too, But that's Imbra Hill's that's implicated in the
very existence of hip hop and the church is right

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because we know can't stand up here because you have
not been ordained you're a woman. You can't speak from
this to that's polite sexism, but it's still patriarchy and
it's worse. And so when you ask where they learned
it from, they learned it from when they in church
when they said you can't step up here and this
and got a PhD. This dude ain't been to college,
but God bless him, he got a hoop and a horn.

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Even at the same time, he is to be defer
to in a way that the woman who has gained
that knowledge cannot even be at knowledge to. That is
a deeply sexist moment and a patriarch of culture. Now
that doesn't mean therefore we let Diddy off the hook,
because what he did against Cassie is evil and wrong
at the same time. Wrong at the same time, when

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we look at the legal system where others have been
treated in a different way. We know he was mistreated
in a racist fashion in terms of whether or not
he could even get out of jail while he's awaiting
trial or even now. Yes, right, and he was look
a look predominantly white jewelry sneered at the prosecutors. Were

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you good? Right? Dave Saville said, I'm gonna be a
Rico on you, one man, right yourself. Now that that
is not to for those who are listening, and I
don't want any feminists or women is to think, oh
my god. Of course he would dismiss the evil, the
malevolence against women will not be solved in the Didty case.
That would be easy. The deeper issue is, can we

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look at a culture that produced a Didty on a
daily basis to believe that women's lives were disposable? And
in this culture we learned that at every level. How
do we resist that? How do we speak about a
feminist effort that would interrogate the critical patriarchal practices that
pass for common sense, that pass for old boys will

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be voice? So we want to acknowledge that at the
same time, in a culture that has what they call
carcorologic imprisoning people based upon certain principles. We know that
it's always been unjust toward us, and just because.

Speaker 32 (01:05:53):
We hated what did he did and despise the consequences
of his actions doesn't mean simultaneously that the criminal justice
system has been disposed against us from the gett.

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Michael Ahead, die Son, thank you, thank you, going for
I feel like I'm here one or six apart. Don't
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If you walking, bless you Mark, if they still have fun,
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In this California.

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the endorsement of President inaac San Francisco Branch Jamas Brown,
that he gave the benediction to Vice President Kamala Harris
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you know. He also had lunch with the late doctor
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only that, we have Leon Woods. He's a pastor not
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of us got their benefits.

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Think you know that Mack.

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I'm the CoA chair of the National Black Walls Day project.
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for the RDC team at Best Line Business Funding. But
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That's always taken on every basis. On the podcast, I'm
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On my mother's side. I love doing that.

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I love giving praise my great grandparents, my mom fop, beautiful,
loving kind people always NCOU sure lots of love with
the family, and that's of food in the belly. I
love them with all my body and soul. And then
my grandparents, Buddy and the heads of Guy.

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They can all the time look at a person and
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In their future.

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own hands in the history other universe. Sturner the Headstart program,
a food program, and also coaching all boys literally biseball
team in the.

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Championship of the Universe, always saying Roger Shine.

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He said, God, you said for all the land, because
it is when I give you am Fatty Sam the
best person I ever met in my life. My dear Mama,
I love you with all my heart, my body and soul.
On my father's side, my frand parents, Albert and I
burd the courage.

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They were, as.

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I tell you, they own three churches on two gas
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and that said it's all. I remember being eight years
old walking to the hallway at tennegat at night, nobly,
I said, somebody testing me my forehead.

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She said, what are you doing, young man? Going to
get some noo cookies? I said, wha, what are you doing?
Grandma is tennega at night? You never go to bed
at eighteen thirty? She said, what are you doing, young man?
Going to get some cookies?

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
And the cookies that baby cut them to me Grandma,
I'm going to get my reparations.

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I said, Mother comes gets the nerd. It's been a
long way. She said this something about your voice. I
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Oh the universe where Cathay live from the black hole,
the grand friends, all my hurt, my body and soul.
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fighting by the chief paganic always take us to a
place can find high, so we could always say safe tonight,
always saying, son, develop your mind to the highest extent.

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My dad's the first one.

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That tell me about the start seving the one blackbird.

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He said, Son, that play was so fast they get
fired from Los Angeles to Washington, d c.

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develip your mind and high the stin I love my
dad and all hurt, my body and soul.

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God, beautiful brother todd about not to forest. Always thought
that sports of politics, God sports was like banda and
lightning job with a big if.

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him and all my body and soul, then my beautiful
dart of dz, the but beautiful dart that God ever
meet with his own hands into history.

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The beautiful Collins.

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Graduate Jarrus bart Ever your day, two degrees in three
and a half years from a major university. Daisy always
trusts God, always praise God, always pray Isaiah fifty four seventeen.
I prayed that no weather from against red Propka the
blood of Jesus.

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You know.

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Daisy set up the very first interview for basic sports
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It became the first.

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Time of the history the United States of America, the
NFL Monday Night Football started broadcasting live on the Wall.

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Street Comitsinics network.

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and the shield with the win. But out of dude,
then Days also a great athlete in high school. She's
gonna six goes in the soccer game. Give a Daisy
with the dribble, Daisy with a kick, Daisy with the goal,
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you can always win in life. Always trust God, I
always praise God.

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I love it.

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With all my heart, my body and soul, and then
my beautiful house and son block of me. The captain
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of Jesus. I pray Isaiah fifty verse seventeen. I pray
that no weather come to against that proper. You know
I'm not gonna he he savy trees.

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I always get the newspapers.

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If you eat newspapers, not a going to ballast. But
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newspapers going out to the bras. That's why I comes
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I pray that no weapon from biggast product. And then
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my great grandparents come out of that barn. We're her
church buddies, always saying you gotta believe, you gotta believe,
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welcome to the show. If wenumber that it racy podcast,
you see, I have those scripts. I have no green
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you said, for all the land without.

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Seeings, will I give you? And that's He's wherever and
I trust y'all.

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my thread to take it rid of it. You know,
always play I'm the best fighter they ever want the planet.
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Muhammad Ali's right hand man. He would always tell Ali,
you slow like a.

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Butterfly, and you thing like a peep. Rumble, you man, rumble,
he said, was all you got to use.

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How can you lose? Ali said, I go pretty. I
can't watch any beef. And every time I listen to
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like a butterfly and I seem like it. There was
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know me by now, I always play. I'm as to
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is towards justice. In America, sixteenth President Abram Nickol the
only president with the decency the mass reparations in god side.
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