Jake Paul-Gervonta Davis Pressers, Lamont Roach Next Bout + Eubank Jr-Benn Undercard | BFW Preview Podcast - Big Fight Weekend Boxing Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The countdown is on to fight time.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is Big Fight Weekend. No, here is your host,
DJ Leaves. All right, kids, here we are on the
big fight we can preview. I'm merely the somewhat competent host,
TJ Reeves. Here is our insider, Big Dan Rayfield.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We do a fantastic job. We do, say so ourselves,
weekend and week out of previewing the best of the
coming weekend in boxing. One problem this weekend, Rayfield, we
don't really have a prominent fight per se. So we
got to get creative on this week's show. We weren't
gonna just bag it and not be there for the
pod audience. So good to be with you. We got
a lot of fight news to go over. We got

(00:42):
something that we're teasing for Sunday. First of all, how
are you?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
How are you? Thanks here, I'm good, by the way,
Just because there's no fights, it is what it is.
It's sometimes that happens. Call your family, Yeah, catch up.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
We call your mother, right, call your mother. Catch up
with everybody this weekend, watch some college football, watch some NFL,
et cetera. And we should say to the audience, Okay,
first of all, thank you for finding us on the
pod feed and subscribing Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, wherever you get
the pods. We do try to preview going into the weekend,
recap coming off the weekend, so we don't really have
a lot to recap, but you and I got creative.

(01:15):
Excellent job by you. I publicly prop you excellent job
on hooking Mark Kriegel of ESPN and their coverage and
a longtime writer and author as well, and tell them
more about what we have coming off the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Go yeah, absolutely so. I mean, Mark has been a
friend of mine for twenty five years. I met him
way way back when I was working at USA Today
and the end of two thousand. Mark was a columnist
the writing about general sports, but a lot about boxing
for the New York at that time, the New York
Daily News. He also wrote for The New York Post.
So I've known him forever. We were colleagues at ESPN
for a long time, and he is the author of

(01:51):
a number of best selling books. His latest is called
Baddest Man The Making of Mike Tyson, which is like
a four hundred and thirty four page tome about my
Tyson is immaculately researched tremendously well done, and as I
came to find out when Mark sent me a copy
with a nice inscription to me, that that book is
only really the first part because it only goes through

(02:14):
the end of what happened in the fight with the
very famous apex of Mike' scurer with Mike Tyson. So
what we have coming for the reviewers on YouTube and
the listeners on the pod is we just spent right
before we did this, correct, We do like about an
hour of you and I talking to Mark about a
little bit out Canelo and Crawford, because Mark was part
of the in Netflix broadcast to get his take on

(02:35):
that particular fight and the history that was made by
Terrence Crawford, but also about this amazing book that he
has written, Chroniclink Tyson, as I said to Mark, and
you know, I'll give a little tease, like I've been
following Mike Tyson sin I'm a kid. You know, he
was fighting where I grew up in the Albany, New
York area, in the Capitol District of New York and
has had tens of millions of words and said about

(02:56):
him over the years. And I'm like twenty pages into
the book and I'm already finding out that I never
heard about about that. So he'd done an amazing job
of putting this together. And so we had a really
good time talking about his process of doing the book
and about some things he learned about Mike, and there's
a lot of stuff about Tyson. It was tremendous. I
can't wait for people to see it more.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Nate mention of this again. But we're gonna release it
as a YouTube video. To see Mark Krigel with us,
go to the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page. We will
have that out first on video Sunday evening, and then
for this podcast audience. If you're not savvy enough to
come find us on the video, we want you to
go subscribe there, go hit the light button. We'll have

(03:34):
it as a pod overnight Sunday in the Monday, but
see it first if you're interested on the YouTube page.
Coming up. Okay, So news from this past week, and
there are some different things that we have to talk about.
Jake Paul and Jervonte Davis had their media tour earlier
this week in New York and in Miami, and we

(03:55):
began to learn some more about this of course there's
the viral moments of Paul you know, squaring off with
Javonte Davis as he's bigger, and we see all that
all over the internet. But Dan take us through anything
that we learn, including the undercard being filled out as
well for this upcoming November show go ahead.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I mean, look, first of all, as far as this,
I call it a goofy exhibition. I mean, you know,
good for the two guys. They are gonna make a
lot of money. I'm sure there's a lot of people
that are interested to see whatever's gonna transpire in this
particular event. And you know me, I've never knocked Jake
for doing the things he has done in terms of
the types of events he's put on. I just can't

(04:34):
find myself getting too into this one, to be honest.
And it's not anything against tankh I enjoy watching. I
wish he was fighting a legitimate fight in terms of
the dull monument.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
And so you're coming a little closer to my side
of the street on farcical with this on him being
eighty pounds heavier than Davis seventy eight pounds heavier.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, I mean, if they're at their actual fighting weights,
they're separated by sixty five pounds, but yeah, I hear you,
and not to mention that Jake is probably about about
seven or eight inches taller than Tank Davis. But whatever,
let them do what they want to do. So they
went and they did their media tour open to the public.
They did it in Monday in Manhattan. They did it
again on Tuesday in Miami, where they moved the fight
from the original location in Atlanta now is taking place

(05:13):
in Miami, and so they square it off. But I
you know, when you do a press conference for an
actual fight and there's tension and there's stakes because of
a title or pound for pound or whatever the reasons are, like,
you can feel like the tension and you know that
they're looking to hurt each other or you know, to
win because it's going to advance their careers. It's going

(05:34):
to help them make a legacy on people are really
into it this fight. To me, again, I'm not not
going to if you want to watch it, by all means,
I'm going to watch it. I don't love it, but
I'm going to watch it. It doesn't have any of
that because there's no real stakes because it's not going
to count it's they did announce the particulars. It is officially,
as we suspected and knew ahead of time, it is
an exhibition match for ten rounds three minute rounds, so

(05:56):
at least in that sense, the rules are the same.
Nikisa Beadarin, who was the co founder of Most Valuable
Promotions and Jake Paul's partner in that company, he's the
ostensibly the promoter since Jake is the combatant in the fight.
They announced that it will be uh, it'll be contracted
at one hundred and ninety five pounds, hardly a big

(06:17):
give for anybody, because Tank is one hundred and thirty
five pounds champion. He fought one time about four years
ago at one hundred and forty pounds in his fight
against Mario Barrios and Jake Paul. Although the cruiserweight limit
is two hundred pounds, for most of his fights, he's
been somewhere between like one eighty three and like one

(06:38):
ninety is or something like that, so he's had a
few fights over the one ninety five. Obviously, when he
fought Tyson, you know, in the so called official fight,
he bulked up to two hundred and twenty seven pounds
but the point is for him to make two hundred
for cruiserweight, like he that was the limit, let's say
for his most recent bout against Chavez Junior. For the
making one ninety five, You're hardly sucking down and draining

(06:59):
yourself in any kind of dramatic way. To me, the
more interesting thing is not what Jake Paul's gonna wait
for this fight, because presumably he's going to weigh right
on the one ninety five. I don't see why he
would be lower. Is how heavy is tanking to come in?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Where can he still be effected?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
He was a realistic guess I have one shirl.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Idea because even if you see.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I think he really I think he realistically to still
be in some kind of shape or whatever would be
about one hundred and fifty pounds match.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's fair? Is that fair? I think that's fair. And
I think he might even be a little lesson that
to tell you the truth, because here's the thing he's not.
He's not like officially preparing for the fight. You looked
at him at the press converence. He doesn't look like
he's out of shape or anything like that. But he
can't be more than one sixty or something like that
right now, I can't. It probably isn't even that much.
And like I said, his only fight above one thirty

(07:45):
five was one hundred and forty pounds and he was
effective at that weight. I mean, so I don't know.
It's a goofy thing to me. So anyway, bottom line,
there are a ten round three minute ten round fight.
Three minute rounds. One hundred and ninety five is the
contract limit. They are gonna have three judges there, according
to the cases announcement at this news conference. But they're
gonna so though the renders score is if necessary unless

(08:05):
somebody gets knocked out. There's no prohibition against a knockout
or anything like that, which is always sort of a
weird thing. Anyway. You can't prohibit prohibiting knockout because if
a guy lands a shot and a guy gets knocked out,
that can happen no matter whether you're say you're not
allowed to do it or not. So they're gonna presumably
fight hard. I hope they'd do anyway, But three judges
will offer their scoring at the end of the rounds

(08:26):
and at the end of the fight if it goes
to ten, you know, if it goes at ten round distance,
but it won't count on their records because technically it's
an exhibition, even though we'll know what our eyes saw. Furthermore,
they will wear twelve ounce gloves instead of what would
normally have been ten ounce gloves. If you know about
boxing rules, if you're in the welterweight division or below,
it's usually ten ounce rather eight ounce gloves than anything

(08:47):
above that is ten ounce gloves. For this, they're gonna
wear twelve ounce gloves, which are still smaller than like
gloves that guys would typically spar in. There'll be the
heaviest gloves that that tank ever wore for an actual fight,
because of course he's never fought about one, so I
would imagine every one of his professional bouts had been
eight ounce gloves, So that could be a little bit different,
But I don't think it's gonna to the to the

(09:07):
layman that's watching on Netflix, which is what's going to
carry this event. You're not going to notice a couple
extra ounces on a guy's gloves, and but you will
notice that one guy is six foot one and will
be pushing close to two hundred pounds and the other
guy's five foot five and you know, standing on a
phone book, as I like to say, you know who's
been boxing as a one hundred and thirty five pounder
for most of his career, or even before that one

(09:29):
hundred and thirty pounds where he won his first world titles.
So you know, it's kind of a goofy thing. But
if people want to see it, so be it. Again,
I can't get too hyped about it. But but anyway,
but the point I'm making though, TJ. Is when you
went and watched any of the news conference, whether it
was the one in New York or the one of Miami,
you know, they were saying things and all that, but
I didn't get any real sense of like they're they're

(09:49):
don't like each other, or you know that there's hatred
or there's some kind of chip on their shoulder. They're
fighting for any real stakes. This is a business transaction,
cash grab for both of them. It's a money grab,
and by the way, nothing wrong with that, because we'd
all love to get cash grabs if we Because I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Know, the only thing that I keep coming back to is,
don't tell me you're serious about becoming a World Championships fighter.
Jake Paul. If this is what you're doing instead and
wasting another six months for a.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Year I think about itself, turns out to be a joke,
and everybody leaves their screen or their phone or their
you know, TV or wherever they watched this event upset.
Just remember two things. A it wasn't pay per view.
You know, if you have a regular Netflix subscription, you
just get it anyway, so you're not out the money
if you blew. You know, back in the day, people

(10:35):
spending fifty dollars watching Mike Tyson knock got Bruce Seldon
in one round where Bruce heldn didn't even try to fight.
That was a different story. And secondly, what do you
expect from a from a fight between guys exactly? I mean,
this is ridiculous. I'm I'm a little disappointed the Commission
would even approve this as an exhibition or not. I mean,
but again, the Florida Commission approved Floyd Mayweather against Logan

(10:57):
Paul where there was a similar weight to party. Floyd
was like a at that time, fighting about one fifty
four and Logan Paul was over two hundred pounds. I
guess when he would, you know, be walking around so
there was similar fifty plus pounds different, so you know
that that was what it was anyway, you know whatever,
and the.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Under card, what about the card on the on the
November show.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, So with respect to MVP, like, one thing I'll
say when they put some of these goofy Jake Paul
events on, one thing I'll give them credit for is
they do a pretty damn good job of putting on
legit fights for their undercards, you know, and that's that's important.
I think that's important. So and this is no different.
So in the co feature, they promote Alicia Baumgardner, who's
the undisputed women's Junior lightweight champion, for this fight. She

(11:39):
will defend against the Canadian contender, Layla A Bedouin, but
she has vacated her WBC belt, so she's given up
her status as undisputed. She still has the other three titles.
And the reason is because this stems to the time
in recent years where Amanda Serrano, who was at the
time the undisputed featherweight champion, wanted her bouts to be
under the same rules as the men, meaning twelve rounds

(12:00):
and three minute rounds. The WBC, they cite their medical
people's reports and research and safety things along those lines,
and they refuse for women's matches to sanctioned fights that
are twelve rounds or three minutes. So she wanted to
participate in the same type of rules as the men.
The other organizations allow it, the Commission allows it if

(12:22):
both sides say it's okay, even though the default for
women would be ten rounds for a title fight and
two minute rounds. But I guess both the athletes are
on board with it, and that's what she wanted to do.
So she vacates her WBC title, but they will fight
a female Boxing World Championship fight. This will be a
twelve round schedule about and the rounds will be three
minutes long. So she's following in the footsteps of what

(12:44):
Amanda Serrano has done, who is part of MVP now
also and as you know, one of their major fighters.
So that's her defense in the co feature and then
in the fight that's below that This is actually a
good fight, and I've been wondering what's happening with this fight,
been asking Gilberto Mendoz from the WBA for like two
months what the status was because that had been ordered
to a purse bid, but it will be this fight.

(13:06):
It will be the first defense of the WBA Junior
welterweight title of Gary Antoine Russell, who will take on
his mandatory the Japanese contender, who you may have seen
on some of the Japanese cards that came on ESPN
Plus from Japan on in a way under cards and
that sort of thing against Andy Hirioka, And so that's
another fight on the card. That's a very interesting fight
to me. You know, good fighters. Obviously, Gary Russell is

(13:28):
just tremendous speed, comes from that bloodlines of his brother,
Gary Junior, was the former featherweight champion, and Gary looked
good in the last fight when he won the belt.
And you know, Heroica has been doing his thing. He's
gonna be coming off about a fourteen month layoff. Part
of that was because he achieved the mandatory status and
they weren't going to blow that spot. So he's twenty
four to zero with nineteen knockouts. They're both the same
age twenty nine. So that's the next fight down the card,

(13:52):
and then you get into the fights that are on
the preliminaries, and they've added some of the two of
their women champions, because obviously if you follow MVP at all,
you know that they are by far and away the
number one promoter in terms of top level women's boxing.
So they have signed a whole bunch of top women
over the last few months, and so they've got a
couple of them making defenses. You have Elie Scottney from
the UK. She's taken on Mayeli Flores. That will be

(14:15):
a four belt unification fights, so it will produce at
the end if there's no draw, you'll have the undisputed
women's junior featherweight champion, so that there are stakes there.
And then further down you've got jo Costa Vaye, who's
been one of the top pound four pound female boxers
for a number of years. Had a pretty big fight
that she lost against Anissi Estrada. She is since that loss,

(14:35):
has one another title. She's the WBC's female strawweight Champion.
She is defending the title against Yadira Bustillos. So you
got that, and then you know some other fights on
the preliminary part, but the main card Jake Paul against
Davis and the exhibition Alisa Baumgarner against Bedouin in the
title defense at twelve rounds of three minutes for a

(14:56):
female boxing match and a very high level first class
legit world title fight between Gary Antoine Russell and Andy Hereoka.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
So at least you get a good undercard with this,
like you said, like you prefaced it with, and again
that's coming for November, all right. So a couple of
other things here on some fights. While we're on the
subject of Davonte Davis. Remember he knocked out the ghost
Frank Martin back in June of twenty twenty four, and
Martin is now going to fight for the first time

(15:25):
in almost what a year and a half coming up
the next month. So tell me more about Martin's return.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
So PBC has not announced this yet, but if you
go on any of Frank martin social media, he's posted
like an artwork rendering of it and he announced he's
back and what's going on. So he will be back
on October twenty fifth, will be on the card that
PBC and Prime Video are doing as a pay per
view October twenty fifth at the MGM Brand Gardenerena in
Las Vegas. The main event is Sebastian Fundora defending his

(15:54):
WBC Junior didawait title in the main event against Keith Thurman,
but Frank Martin's about is supposed to be the final
bout on the free prelum, so even he don't buy
the pay per view, he can still watch this and
whatever else they put on the free prelims. And Frank
Martin is back in action in the main free prelim
fight against Rancis Barthelmy, who frankly I thought was retired,
but I guess he's not. He's a former title holder

(16:17):
both in the junior lightweight and lightweight division. He is
attempted at times to become the first Cuban to win
a title in a third weight division. He came up shy,
he got a draw in one of those fights. In
any event, that's the fight. So it'll be good to
see Frank Martin back in action because it always kind
of drives me mad when a guy's got a nice
career going okay, he runs into a tank Davis, who

(16:37):
he was very competitive with until he got knocked out.
But up until that moment it was a highly competitive fight.
And so he takes some time off and I don't
really quite understand why. It's sixteen months he wasn't particularly
injured or anything like that. But it's good to see
Frank Martin back because look, he is a good quality fighter. Now,
of course for this fight, he's no longer to be
fighting at lightweight. I guess his fight's at junior welterweight,

(16:58):
where Barthelmy has been for the last year years. But
any event, good to see Frank back in action because
he's still a talented fighter. And there's no shame in
losing by knockout to Tank Davis, as that's happened to
a lot of guys.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
True. And then we're going to talk about two more
previous opponents of Tank Davis. And you were saying this
to us coming off of the weekend on the last pod,
that it would not surprise you if PBC would squeeze
in one more card and it would have involved Lamont
Roach and Pitt Bull Cruise. What else have you learned

(17:28):
about when that might be et cetera go ahead?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, so obviously Roach was thinking he's going to get
the rematch of the draw from March against Tank Davis.
They fought to that very controversial draw. The knockdown that
should have been called that the referee didn't call Steve
Willis and Tank Davis was supposed to move on from
that win if he got it infight Jake Paul back
then didn't happen. He exercises right to a rematch against

(17:53):
Lamont Roach, and so that was being planned at various
times in the summer. It didn't happen. Obviously, Tank had
to do you know, he had the legal iss shoes
with the assault, the domestic abuse situation. Ultimately the case
was dropped, so he was no longer dealing with that.
In any event, the fight, the rematch with Roach kept
getting delayed, and then he said forget about it, and
he is now taking the fight with Jake Paul or
the exhibition with Jake Paul. So that left Lamont Roach,

(18:15):
you know, in need of an opponent.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
When Many pakiall fought the fight with Mario Barrios back
in July, there was a lot of discussion after that
fight that Many would come back and fight at the
end of the year in December, you know, and headline
one of these types of shows again. And they were
talking about maybe he would fight Roland Romero. They were
talking about maybe they would do a Barrios rematch. Was
all kinds of different things that were being tossed rat.
It is my understanding, and I've talked to a variety
of people that are directly involved with this event, is

(18:38):
Pakia will not fight again the rest of this year.
He'll be back probably in January February, but in the
meantime they still are going to do a final show
in December, December sixth or December twentieth, and the fight
will be headlined by lamont Roach challenging Isaac Pittbull Cruz
for his WBC Interim Junior weal to rate belt, which
he won on the Pacio undercard back in July, although

(19:00):
drove me crazy because he did so against a late replacement.
They fight only schedule for ten rounds, not the twelve
round championship distance, but you know who's counting.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
This would presumably be a twelve round interim Junior welterway
title fight in December.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, for the interim belt exactly. So as a matchup,
I find Pitbull Cruise against the mont Roach should be
actually a pretty good fight. My question, and again it's
not my money, so I don't have to worry about it.
But I don't know if that sells as an eighty
dollars pay per view main event, now PBC doesn't do.
To PBC's credit, they've done a very good job, similar
to like MVP when they do these undercards. They've put

(19:33):
their best foot forward and done excellent shows for the
remainder of the show as far as beyond the main event.
But I don't know how much it sells. But Pitbull
has a good fan base. And by the way, one
thing was told very specifically by one of the people
directly involve with this event is it probably will not
take place in Las Vegas, which would sort of be
an upset because the PBC on Prime Video pay per
views have most I think all of them. Actually maybe

(19:55):
I'm missing one, but I think they've all taken place
in Las Vegas so far. Take that back when Lamont
Roach fought Tank that was in New York, but most
of them have been in Vegas. But for this one,
they're looking to go maybe to Texas or somewhere in
the southwest. San Diego was mentioned to me. Phoenix was
mentioned to me. Take advantage of the tank of the
Tank of the Pitbull, who has a very healthy following

(20:16):
among the Mexican fan base of the Mexican Americans, so
that that will be the way that they probably close
up the year.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Moving along, there was a press conference Thursday in Japan
where the brother of Naoia in a way, Takuma in Away,
is now involved in a vacant WBC bantamweight title fight.
Tell me more about the circumstances and the opponent real quick.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, it was just in a few last few days
last week or so that Jinto Nakatani, who was the
unified bantam wait champion, vacated the titles. He is moving up.
We discussed it on the one of the previous shows.
He's to be part of that December twenty seventh card
in Saudi Arabia, a read a season or a ring
magazine card whatever they're calling it, a Turkey al sheet
cart where the main event will be in a way,

(21:01):
defending against Picasso there and they're putting Nakatani, as you know,
because the fights are all Japanese boxers taken on other
fighters some other areas of the world. And so now
this is exciting because you have Nakatani coming into the
way class where in Away is. They're both now going
to be a one hundred and twenty two pounds as
we hopefully line up for what will be a mega
fight for Japan and for boxing. Frankly sometime in twenty

(21:24):
twenty six, in the first half of the year. I
would think in the spring, where Nakatani and in a
way will fight each other, assuming they both win their
fights in November. But he vacated the title, so to
fill that vacancy to WBC had ordered the negotiations and
if they didn't make a deal there would have been
a purse bid. But apparently the sides have made a
deal because on Thursday they had the press covers in

(21:44):
Tokyo and this fight will take place November twenty fourth.
To fill the vacant WBC title be Tension Nasakawa, who
has had some exposure on the ESPN Plus under cards
for a lot of the Japanese cards that they have
done with in a way with NaIO in Away the
older brother. Obviously, people might know not Nasakawa because he
was the famous Japanese kickboxer who with the very first

(22:06):
exhibition that Floyd Mayweather did post his retirement, fought Mayweather
was a much heavier fighter and got absolutely pummeled and
knocked out and destroyed in the first round. But as
a professional boxer now he's doing it full time. You know.
He's like seven and always look pretty good. He's a
southpaw and he's fighting not in the Floyd mayweather Way
class like in the one forties or one fifties. He's

(22:27):
fighting at one hundred and eighteen pounds. He's taken on
Takuma in a way, who used to be the Bandonway
title holder of the WBA, So he's been a good
contender for a while. He is coming off of a loss.
But anyway, that is the fight to fill this vacancy.
And if this was a few months ago, we would know, Okay,
this is going to be on ESPN Plus, but now
we'll have to wait and see what they come up
with in terms of a American streamer or broadcaster. It

(22:48):
will be on Prime Video in Japan, where many of
these events are, but it's still not announced or if
there is anything in terms of the United States.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
All right, a couple of more things. The Chris u
Bank and Connor Ben undercard for November has been brought up.
Anything stand out to you, maybe a couple things stand
out to you from that undercard. What about it.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Nothing. I mean it's really similar to the first one
and not a surprise, to be quite honest, is it
is very very British centric. I mean they're not doing
anything for a worldwide audience, certainly nothing for the United States.
This is all about the UK audience. So we all
know about the main event Chris Ubank Junior in the
rematch with Connor Ben from their fantastic fight earlier in
the year November fifteenth, same venue as where the first

(23:32):
one was at the Tottenham hotspurst Stadium in London. But
the co feature was announced as well as other undercard fights,
and the co feature is the one that does stand out.
It's Adam Azine, who we've talked about. We spoke on
one of the recent shows about he had just signed
a new deal with Boxer his promoter. They're also the
promoter for u Bank Junior, so he's going to get
some tremendous exposure. In the co feature, He's taken on
a very tough, experienced, durable guy in Zara Abdeliav, who

(23:56):
you might remember not that long ago fought raymar Ataya
for a vacant title. He also got stopped years ago
by Devin Haney in a interim title fight. So he's
got his experience against some good quality opposition. So that
will be the co feature, a junior welterweight fight, and
then you've got another one of the undercard downs they announced.
Among the various ones they announced was Jack Catterrell, who's

(24:17):
now fighting as a welter right, He's gonna fight Echo Estuman,
who retired Josh Taylor. That there's been some reporting and
I've seen stuff that Caterall's posted on his social media.
He's changed trainers and this has sort of struck me
as out of the blue. He's gonna now train with
Bozy Ennis, who is the father of Jern Boutsennis. So
it was just a I don't know how that connection happened,

(24:38):
but it would be the last thing I would have
thought of. But he obviously wants a change of pace.
He's come to an American trainer. That'll be their first
fight together. In Estuman earned himself this type of exposure
against a name opponent, a good contender like Caterall by
the way that he took care of Josh Taylor unexpectedly
not that long ago. They've added Richard Ria Kopore, who

(24:58):
has been involved in some bigger fights in the lower
weight class, but now he's coming up to the heavyweight
division to fight Tommy Welch, not exactly a well known fighter.
You got Ishmael Davis against Sam Gilly. So again it's
very British centric. But for my purposes as a fan
besides me and then, I'm very interested to see how
adam Azeem deals with a very durable, rugged, tough, solid

(25:19):
quality guy like zauerb Delive. This is a big step
off rohim. I know he's got the win over Sergei Lippinetz,
who's a former world champion, but I feel like zauerb
Delive is I'm a lot fresher and a lot better
right now in his career than Lipinez was, even though
Lipinitz has a bigger name. And for Caterrell, I guess
I mean, look, Jack, I've said this for a lovely guy,
you know, good boxer, I find him to be extremely

(25:40):
boring to watch. We'll see if Bozie Edmis can put
a little spring in a step, let's say, on the
offensive side of the game.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
They both have in common that they beat Josh Taylor,
and so that's part of the lure of that I
one more note, and that is Lindolfo Delgado and Gabrielle
Golas of Valezuela are going to fight in a one
forty pound IBF title eliminator where the winner would theoretically
be in line to fight Richardson Hitchins. Tell me more

(26:08):
about this, including when and where.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
So the winner of this fight will be the mandatory
for Richards and Hitchins, you know, assuming that Richards and
Hitchins decide to stay in the wake class and or
defend this title. This is not a surprise. This was
the fight that was ordered. If you remember, go back
a few months ago, Delgado had been ordered to fight
Liam Paro. Paro did not participate in the purse bit
pulled out and decided he was going to stay. He
had had one fight a little bit over the one

(26:32):
hundred and forty pound way class. He was going to
stay at welterway and then just about a week ago
he ended up winning an IBF eliminator in the welterweight
division to get a title shot in that division. So
when he pulled out against Delgado, they went down their
ratings and the next guy was Gabriel Golez Vealezuela, So
that's the matchup. It will take place. November fifteenth is
the date supposedly it's going to happen. It will take
place in San Louis Potosi in Mexico, and they will

(26:54):
duke it out for the right to become the mandatory challenger.
And that particular card, which we put on by zan
for Promotions, will be heavily populated by a lot of
top rank fighters. As we've discussed many times, Top Ranks
still without a broadcast deal. They have a very close
relationship with Zanferd Promotions. They also have a number of
Mexican and Mexican American fighters on their roster, Delgado being
one of them. There's been a lot of discussion that

(27:15):
maybe Raphael Espinoza, the featherweight title holder of the WBO,
that he will fight on this card in the main event.
There's been some stuff doubt he might fight Luis Alberto Lopez.
I talked to Top Rank and ask them. They're like,
we're not doing that fight, so we'll see, you know
if they're lying.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Or theoretically they would know. So either either it's not
happening or they are lying one of the two, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Or maybe they're talking about it, but it's nowhere near
being done. And like some people like to, you know,
get out in front of things when they put stuff
on their Internet sites or on their Twitter account or whatever.
But suffice it to say, there's probably a good chance
Espinoza finds his way into the main event, be it
against Lopez or somebody else, and that Delgado will be
in this limit or on the show they've talked about having,
like maybe Emeliano Vargas on that show. I've seen some

(27:59):
stuff that potentially Richard Torres, the heavyweight, we might be
on that cart. But Delgado went down as well as
the one fight. As far as the bout is signed
and locked in, uh, you know, and uh, and that
fight is happening, and that's got some stakes involved.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
We haven't seen Richard Torres recently, and he was kind
of you know, in the in the consciousness on the
front burner or whatever. And uh, he's been victimized obviously
by they don't have a deal right now, they don't
have shows, So stay tuned, stay tuned on what's gonna
happen with that.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, one thing about Richard though, he I mean, at
least he's been overall, he's been somewhat active, Yes, since April.
That was his biggest win he got that.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's his only fight of the year though. Yeah, as
we said here now on the precipice of Precipice, let's
let me pull out Precipice on a late night Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Reasons why he might be on that show to gad
a second fighting, but he is at least coming off
with the biggest win back in April where he beat
uh Wuido Vannello. What I always find to be kind
of wild is that here you have that fight goes
down between Torres and Viennello. Vnello loses and he's already
scheduled to be back. He's fighting on a Mattroom card
coming up, and the guy that beat him in Torres
doesn't get happen if he'sh fight set and but that's

(29:01):
kind of crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But maybe it's on this card like you mentioned in November. Yeah, okay,
So a couple more plugs go to the Big Fight
Weekend YouTube page for several reasons. Good nostalgia on the
Michael Spinks upset of a forty eight and oh Larry Holmes,
the anniversary of which was earlier this week, this past weekend.
Go check that out as well as the Sugar Ray
Leonard anniversary of the win, now about ten days ago.

(29:24):
As we do this over Thomas Hearns, you can relive
Dan and I talking about it in the nostalgia great
stuff on the page, and again go to that page
our Big Fight Weekend YouTube page because the video of
our conversation with Mark Kriegel will be there Sunday night,
Sunday evening before the podcast release. See it first, Ray

(29:45):
Feel and audience see it first on the YouTube page,
and then pod audience. You'll hear it overnight Sunday night
into Monday. He's got the new Mike Tyson book out.
He's talking at the beginning of our conversation about the
Canelo Crawford and the Crawford upset, and it ranks good
debate too. I made him pause and you and he
and I kind of went back and forth on prime

(30:07):
Terrence Crawford at welterweight versus prime Sugar Ray Leonard at welterweight.
They need to hear him talking about that before we
talk to Mike Tyson and the baddest man in the
book that Mark Kriegel has written, so that's again coming
out Sunday night. So there's not really a lot to recap.
Enjoy Mark Kriegel, it's a fun It flies by as
a conversation with Ray Feel and Kregel reminiscing.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
About any guests. Appearance by Mark Dogg and Mark's.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Dog does also make an appearance on the video. You
got to see it and you'll hear it on the
pod feed as well. Anything else or are we good?
We're good at the weekend.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I would say, since there's no boxing you have any significance,
call your family, call.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Your mother, call your family. Have fun with that again,
follow subscribe on this podcast feed. We love it. We're
not going anywhere here with all the insight going into
the weekend, usually in the preview mode, the recap's coming
off the weekend. Go find the Big Fight Weekend YouTube
page once more, go find it there, Big Dan, have
a good weekend. Thank you as anyways, and we look

(31:06):
forward to the next time that they see us and
hear us. Mark Kriegel is with us coming off the weekend.
For now, we're good on the Big Fight Weekend preview pod.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Bye

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