August 1, 2025 • 47 mins
Buckle up, because this episode goes completely off the rails—in the best way possible.
First up, we dive into the media’s favorite pastime: wildly speculating about suspects while the situation is still unfolding. (What could possibly go wrong?)
Then, things get tight—literally—as we unpack the bizarre internet uproar over Sydney Sweeney’s jeans. Are they just denim, or a coded message from the fashion-industrial complex? We explore the wild theories, questionable genetics talk, and somehow end up in a conversation no one saw coming.
Finally, we wrap things up with a look at NPR’s identity crisis and Tulsi Gabbard’s dramatic unveiling of “Operation Mockingbird.” Spoiler: it’s not a new Netflix thriller—yet. It’s smart, it’s snarky, and it might just be plain weird.
You can Follow Billy Dees on X https://x.com/BillyDees
And Cynthia Elliott on X https://x.com/shamanisis
First up, we dive into the media’s favorite pastime: wildly speculating about suspects while the situation is still unfolding. (What could possibly go wrong?)
Then, things get tight—literally—as we unpack the bizarre internet uproar over Sydney Sweeney’s jeans. Are they just denim, or a coded message from the fashion-industrial complex? We explore the wild theories, questionable genetics talk, and somehow end up in a conversation no one saw coming.
Finally, we wrap things up with a look at NPR’s identity crisis and Tulsi Gabbard’s dramatic unveiling of “Operation Mockingbird.” Spoiler: it’s not a new Netflix thriller—yet. It’s smart, it’s snarky, and it might just be plain weird.
You can Follow Billy Dees on X https://x.com/BillyDees
And Cynthia Elliott on X https://x.com/shamanisis
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are listening to the Billy D's Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, well, hello everyone, and welcome to the program.
My name is Billy D's. If this is your first
time here, first of all, welcome, so glad that you
are here. We are primarily an interview and a commentary
based podcast. We do a little both. Got a lot
of interviews going on lately. As a matter of fact,
on Friday nights we usually go live with some fun
(00:30):
commentary and as so often is the case, my very
frequent co host is Cynthia Elliotts. And oh I almost
caught her in mid drink there she was being taken
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, no, it's so good to see you. I'm psyched
to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I was gonna take a sip of my drink, but
you know, that's okay, I can swing. It's always good
to see Billy, and I'm always honored to guest co
host for showing.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh well, that's so nice. Thank you, that's great to hear. Yeah.
For the lives in about the first couple, like the
first hour, first two or to three hours. They do
very well on X SO I you know, but live,
I've noticed in general, you if you don't get the
audience soon it doesn't happen, whereas on the podcast platforms,
(01:16):
people will listen to them throughout the week because it's
part of their what they do on launch or while
they're commuting or whatever. So it's a little bit of
a different beast. But I'm glad we're strong in both
in both places, so very happy about that. Okay, getting
into the subject of today's podcast, I know these manufactured
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controversies are are sometimes they're hard to ignore because they're
just so funny. And this thing with Sidney Sweeney, I
actually softened the title. I chickened out. My original title
was going to be Sidney Sweeney has No Weenie, but.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, come on, Billy, that would have been so much fun.
I like what went with it was I made matt
eyebrows raise, which is the point.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, So anyway, yeah, I chickened out, so I went
with something a little softer. The the the Sydney Sweeney
is probably white is a reference to what I'm going
to talk about first, which is seeing it. We're going
to talk about that first in just a moment. Now,
obviously we're going to cover Sidney Sweeney and what really
bothers me isn't so much the media controversy, but it's
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the ignorance about genetics that when you hear people talk
about this, it's it's you know, there was a time
when I would say, you know, agreeing with you is
like saying is like trying to argue with somebody who
thinks the world is flat. If they don't know it
by now, they never will. That used to be a joke,
but that isn't the case anymore, because there isn't just
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people on the fringes who believe this that. There's a
lot of people out there who think there's a firmament
up there. It's impossible to get to the moon. You
know that that was all faked. So it's like, you know,
we talk about the evolution happened, I can tell you
we're devolving. So I'm going to talk about that a
little bit. I'm also going to ask you, because I
know you're a media person, I'm going to ask you
(03:12):
about MPR apparently it's official now no more MPR. And
we're going to talk a little bit about Tulsa Gabbard
and this Operation Muckingbird. We'll get into that. Well, yeah, anyhow,
that's kind of the flow. Let's start with seeing it again,
(03:32):
there was another mass shooter in New York and very troublesome.
And here again, if you're new to the program, generally,
what I try to do is go to an area
with some of these subjects that you would never expect.
And I haven't heard this mentioned to me. Speculating about
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race isn't the issue here. I'm going to play the clip.
This is what happened. And while the shooter was you know,
his whereabouts were unknown, and CNN was reporting. This is
how the report went.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They do not know who he is. They know he
is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses, he appears
to have a mustache, and that picture has been distributed
to every police officer in New York City particularly, has
been sent to the phones of the search teams inside
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that building among.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Them that they did get. They do know what he
looks like.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Sunglasses, mustache, male, possibly white.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And that okay now, but you know the picture that
they had was somebody that was probably not white. I'll
put it that way. And here here's the thing. I
don't have an issue when there is a shoe and
you know for sure the son of a bitch is
(05:04):
white and they call out race. I don't have a
problem with that. When CNN comes on and says, this
son of a bitch is white and he's five eleven
and he's two hundred pounds, I don't have a problem
with that at all, because that's what you need to
know when somebody's out running around, okay, and there's nothing that.
There's no racial problem with that at all, because if
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you're the police, or if you're somebody in that area
and you run across somebody who is black, at that point,
you know that's not the son of a bitch. Okay.
What I have a problem with is the speculation he's
probably white, because that is worse than not saying anything
from a technical standpoint, from a law enforcement standpoint, because
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if you are in that area and you're trying to
get to your car, you're trying to get the hell
out of there, and and CNN says, well, the shooter's
active and he's probably white. When you're on your way
to your car, when you're running through the parking lot,
you're looking for a white son of a bitch, okay,
And that's the problem. At that point, you put everybody,
you distract everybody with who potentially is the wrong suspect.
(06:14):
It's a very high danger in doing that. A lot
of people don't understand why. One of the first questions
a nine to eleven operator will ask when there's something
going on as the black or way, it's not because
they're calling out race you know, if you say the
guy's whites, when the police get there and there's the
black dude standing there, they know it's the wrong dude.
This isn't This is how these things become so convoluted
(06:36):
in these politically correct conversations. I have no idea. The
speculation from a law enforcement and a safety aspect is
what the danger was here. Do you have a comment
about this?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to when NDIA finally gives up on.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Trying to continue to use the race wars, if you will.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's a very underlying thing, but that's really what informs
that kind of decision. It's the fact that that plays well,
It gets attention. It's one of the I mean, I
get it when you're trying to You've got a photo.
I'm pretty sure anybody that I know would look at
that photo and say.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Medium, medium skin tone.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, because you cannot that it's clear to anybody who
has any experience that that person could be many different things.
And frankly, the media is going to kind of have
to give up on that labeling thing because pretty soon,
since we're all looking, you know, so diverse, now, that's
just not going to work. I mean, we can't even
really say white and black anymore because we've got to
re shade another sign. Yes, So yeah, it speaks really
(07:37):
to that kind that that need for them to quickly
get to that because that that helps them in some
way and getting attention to the story.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, which I really think that's what that's really about.
And I think people are over.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It, yes, and sin and I would say that overall,
Fox is probably holding its own in the rate. And
this is objectively speaking because I don't watch any of
them with any regularity. When there's a breaking news story,
an active shooter, or you know, there's an explosion somewhere,
I'll turn it on just to see if I can
(08:10):
get some live video feeds or something like that. But
for the most part, I don't watch cable news at all.
And the like I said, Fox hanging in there, the
rest of them are extremely low, extremely low. And this
is part and parcel as to why it's you're watching
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something and they're speculating, which is here again, hazardous from
a news standpoint, a safety as point, But they just
can't wait to bring color into it when they don't
even know what in the hell they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Speculation isn't journalism.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, it's not, it's absolutely not. So you know, here again,
CNN has been in the crosshairs of a lot of people,
of people like me, mostly because the standard. You know,
CNN used to be one of the good guys. You know,
you had MSNBC on the left, you had Fox on
the right, and you know CNN was boring. You had
(09:10):
uh Rush Limbay used to call wolf Blitzer wolf Blitz
because he always looked like he was Blitz. He was like, no,
I she okay, but I'm picking on wolf Blitzer, but
you know what I'm saying. But generally it was boring,
but it was basically what was going on now there.
Twenty sixteen changed everything. Uh COVID changed everything, and they're
(09:34):
in the tank just with everybody else. And quite frankly,
if I was in media right now, I'm not sure
that I would be doing a whole lot with cable news. Yeah, so,
and you know, the demographics are very old for and
not that there's anything wrong with that. Like everybody's talking
the Stephen Colbert thing. I was talking about that while
you were off the last couple of episodes. His demographics
(09:58):
are sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And it's a dying demographic regard.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I mean, it's not about it's not about age, but
that when a show only has older people, they're dying show.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, and that's and one of the reasons why they're
dying is it doesn't necessarily mean that they're literally dropping dead. See,
I'm at the age now between fifty five and sixty five.
Those are the years that people like me just kill over.
You know, you're gonna find me in the driveway one
day next to my car. Now over sixty five, guys
like me have a ten city At that point, I'm
(10:29):
probably gonna die of a long term illness. You know,
that's generally how it works. But when I say that
that sixty eight isn't a north of sixty eight isn't
a good demographic, it's because those people are not spending.
Those people are not the demographic that is actively buying
new cars, actively doing whatever. They're just simply not. They're
(10:50):
sitting at home thinking about how terrible Trump is looking
at the TV watching Stephen Gobert. And Stephen Colbert does
not do comedy. He does political comment. There's nothing about
that show that to me, enter fits the mold of entertainment. Okay,
he sits there and beloviates about Trump and you know,
fifteen or twenty minutes before you ever get to a guest.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, he lost me fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I was like, being a political journalist, is it should
be about truth? It shouldn't be. Again, we're talking about
like opinion. I mean in all of his is like
his hatred of the people he doesn't like, and his
highlighting of the people he does like. It wasn't it
ninety nine nine percent of all of his guests were Democrats.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, they did a thing on it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What kind of show is that?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And you call yourself a political commentator journalist but you
only show one side?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yes, that's correct. And here again getting back to the demographics,
the boomers, and he's there. He's on the older side
of the boomers. He is that demographic. Sits there watching
cable news, and then they watched they watched something like
NCIS or whatever that is. I don't even know if
it's still on anymore, but whatever that is. And then
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they watch their local news and they watch Stephen Colbert
and that's all they do, night after night after night.
They never go out, they never do anything. And it's
very hard number one to sell anything to that demographic
from a marketing standpoint, and number two to reach them
with any new ideas. That's why Kennedy, even though RFK
Junior was a boomer, he didn't have a lot of
(12:32):
support with the boomers because cable news and late night
TV did not speak about him. Well, you only knew
about him if you were, you know, on the new media,
listening to podcasts on x listen, you know, subscribing to
substack and all this, and that demographic is not doing that.
So anyway, CNN is where it is at because of
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their own doing and same same with all of them.
And Fox is guilty of two although they they've they've
managed to hold on to some. But you got to
keep in mind that none of these stations are doing
our networks are doing what they did in yours past.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay, yeah, the death of all brands just from my
twenty five years is a marketing in per pioneer is
the death of all brands is bot is when they
stop cultivating their current clientele while cultivating a future clientele
simultaneously and keeping them all happy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And none of them were doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes, so that's the state of that. Okay, we're gonna
talk about Sidney Sweeney. And if you don't know, if
you're living under a rock, we'll just suffice it to
say that Sidney Sweeney is a very beautiful model. Okay,
and I'm going to put up if you don't mind,
I'll osk your permission. First, I have an old modeling
picture of you, because I think as a former model,
(13:44):
your opinion has gravitas in a center. Okay, So here's
what was that? Estate laud or what was that?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That was a national campaign for Paul Mitchell?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Paul Mitchell. I'm sorry, okay, Paul Mitchell. So we still
want to make sure Paul Mitchell gets the credit for that.
Quite frankly, uh Shaman, you know the kind of woman
that you were back then, I can pretty much predict
you were the kind of woman that wouldn't have given
me the time of day.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So I didn't give anybody the time of.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Day, and I don't blame you. So there's there's some
other pictures you can find of Cynthia La if you
if you go digging, she's she's the one I actually like.
Isn't the one that's necessarily sensuous, but it's that one.
You have that sweater on. It's like a white knit sweater.
I think that that one is just that is just
so soft, and so I just love that picture. Oh
(14:39):
thank you, Bill, Okay, But anyway, what I was getting
at was from your aspect, Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, a beautiful girl. She's clearly talented.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, we live in the attention economy and I've
been I've been talking about this for a few years
now as somebody who worked in here for twenty five
years and did a lot of campaigns, and one one
of the things that I have gotten to the point
of just being really disgusted by is the manipulation of
the public to enhance attention. Sydney Swinging works in a
business where attention is is a huge part of it.
(15:11):
And because the entertainment, Hollywood fashion industries are all getting
completely just decimated, they're they're.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You know, they're in survival mode.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And I get that, but I would have a lot
more respect for brands like like them American Egle I
think it is. I would have a lot more respect
if they if they didn't manipulate the public and create
fake contrast firs that actually I mean, I believe they engineered.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This is my opinion.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Brands have you know, legal teams, they review things they keep,
They have pr teams that look for potential conflicts, that
things may actually cause a backlash of any kind. No
one's going to convince me that they're not playing the
Balenciaga Zara card, where you you know, slide something in
there that's going to upset people, and then you plant stories, because.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's how it works. You plant stories with a few.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Influencers to say, oh my goodness, I can't believe they
did this, and you know, and it manipulates the public.
And while it gets them a lot of tension. And
I'm all for businesses, especially American businesses, doing well, I
have very little respect for what I'm now calling yellow marketing,
just like yellow journalism. It's you know, it's low brow,
it's manipulative, it's not authentic, and I don't have a
(16:22):
lot of respect for anybody or any company that upsets
people on purpose just to benefit from it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And you know, and that's really what that is.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't think it's that that upsetting and when you
see the campaign or what it's about, but it's the
fact that the that's the engine behind it is to
provoke upset and create negativity, which lowers the vibration of
everyone has to deal with it. So that's my opinion
on it. I mean, good for her, you know, lots
of attention, it's her moment. This is part of the
(16:51):
machine of Hollywood entertainment. I can't even imagine working in
a business we're getting attention all the time. It was
part of my job because that it just sounds like
an awful way to live.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The only thing I will say is American Eagle, which
I believe is in Pennsylvania. They have a history of
very diverse advertising. Okay, this is just the latest one,
and they've had all different shapes and sizes and ethnicities
represented in their effort. They've been actually very good about this, Okay,
(17:23):
So a lot of the hate that they're getting from
the left is a little misplaced. Now, whether they engineered
this as a controversy or not. Maybe true, but here again,
given their past, they're not. They're not the person that
or a company that we should be holding up as
a whipping boy, because they actually have been very good
about this.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yep, this isn't the whole point. They have played the
game for a long time. But billion a lot of
fashion brands are dying.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
People are, That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean they really.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I've worked in fashion for such a long time and
I've seen it. I've seen the quality of everything across
the board absolutely die and they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
But I just like, hey, really, you know, And and
the proof for me that this was understood that they
were doing this was the absurd the size of the posters.
So I was at the mall trying to buy yoga
clothes and I happened to go by their store and
I was like, oh my god, the posters were the
largest ones I've ever seen in the store, and it
was like, here, here's our controversial campaign. But anyway, you know,
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it's just faux outrage.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, if you go buy stocks and everything else, the
initial readings on this are very good.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Of course they are, because we that's why they're doing
it because you know, if the Kardashians really poly like
old Hollywood in the fifties, they were very aware of,
you know, how to create a moment.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
The nude thing was a lesson. That was the first
sort of the first real lesson in how you can
spend controversy positively. And you know, when you get to
Kim Kardashian and the Paris Hiltons of the world, they
literally basically copied Maryland's you know, experience to create a
career for themselves. And this is what brands have learned from,
you know, the cordistions just really kind of perfected it
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and made.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Everybody aware of it. Yes, so it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Absolutely that is, you know, all true, one hundred percent.
I will say this, I do feel that a lot
of the political correctness has you know, they say the
pendulum swings, and I think the pendulum right now is
swinging away from a lot of the political correctness. And
what they did is they just gave it a little
(19:28):
extra shove. They realized there was going in that direction,
and they just gave it a little extra shove and
it worked. Because everybody has jumped on this and actually
a lot of people from the left have said this
is ridiculous, the idea that somehow somebody who looks like
Sidney Sweeney, if you remember that the movie They Live,
where he would put on the glasses and he would
(19:49):
see what the signs really said, like spend money, bro
create and all this. I saw a good illustration where,
you know, somebody on the extream left is looking at
Sydney Swingey and they put on the glasses and they
see Hitler. You know, this is the type of bullshit
that is starting to backlash now. People have had enough
(20:13):
of it. And what I really don't like is the
manipulation in the common dialogue about genetics, you know, and
sex and male and female and all this. I'm all for,
one thousand percent for you to love whoever you want
be with, whoever you want to be with. I am
a champion and a friend of that community one thousand percent. Okay,
(20:37):
we all are on this earth for a very limited
period of time, and you should be able to live
it in whatever way gives you the most pleasure and
fulfillment and whatever it is you want to do with
your life. I'm on that one hundred percent. But what
I don't like is the twisting effects. Okay, And that's
(20:57):
where we're at now. We've reached a point where you
not only have all right to your own opinion, but
you have your right to your own set of facts. This,
my truth, is a word that kind of sticks in
my craw. Let me just say this about genetics, okay.
And like I said, I always tell the audience that
I go a direction that you don't too often. Here.
(21:22):
The Earth is approximately four and a half billion years old,
and there's any number of reasons how we know that.
I'll spare you all the nerdy details. A lot of
it has to do with the Sun, the rate that
it's burning energy, the amount of elements that it's already fused.
We can backtrack that to see how long it took
the Solar system, and the Earth itself is about four
(21:42):
and a half billion years old, and we can run
the models now with computers and everything and retrace the
orbits and all this kind of stuff and the vast
majority of time. A lot of people think that life
is something recent in the history of the Earth, and
that is absolutely not true. Almost life began right away
(22:05):
as soon as the Earth began to cool and We're
talking about millions of years here, So when I say,
I don't mean like on day two it got hot
and then it got cool over the course of millions
and billions of years. So out of that four and
a half excuse me, out of that four and a
half billion year history, let's say life began about three
(22:26):
billion years ago. But the vast majority of time that
life existed, it was microscopic, and all it basically did
was make little duplicates of itself.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So you have a very basic, microscopic living thing, and
it makes a little duplicate of itself, and they would
go on for a while, and then it would make
another one and that one would die. Okay, something happened
in the course of this, After billions of years of
(23:01):
all these little life forms just duplicating themselves, what happened
was what would become sex, and what you had would
be two of them conjoining and passing along. Let's say
something simple. At first, it lived the ones that were
(23:22):
best suited to live just a little bit longer, passed
that information to a new one, and eventually, as time
went on, how to live a little bit longer went
to a new one, and then how to get a
little bit bigger and stronger, went to a new one,
and what would become sex changed everything. It changed everything
(23:45):
almost immediately. There were trilobytes, there were other things, and
eventually dinosaurs walking the earth and the things that we
think about walking the earth are really only present in
the last five hundred and six hundred million years. Before that,
everything with me tiny, just barely microscopic, and fucking changed everything. Okay, Now,
(24:07):
there's no getting around it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But it's a survival and evolution of life wanting to continue,
and it's still running.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's really running the show now, Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And to somehow twist this into some thing about racism
or whatever. This no matter what you believe in, whether
you believe in evolution, and even if you are religious,
just every religion out there has some creation myth that
involves a man and a woman fucking There's just no
(24:40):
getting around it. Okay, and the religious people even got
that right. Okay, So it's one of those things, where
where are we taking this most basic structure of what
created everything? Look out the window, everything, every living thing
(25:01):
out there. There is some asexual stuff out there, but
the vast majority of the stuff that walks talks does
crazy shit. Okay, the result of fucking that's that simple,
all right. Now, there's no point in making this ugly
or making it controversial or whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You know, this is all about supporting. So the whole
thing is it's like a trickle down effect. So you know,
this has become like a method. But it starts with
the people who have like the money or access. This
is American Eagle or you know whoever, someone famous, like
a Kim Kardashian, and they create this the moment to
drive attention. And then there's all there's the media, the
(25:43):
mass media, looking for new stories because the churn on
stories and information and people's appetite for them has reached
I mean, these off the charts. It has never been
like this in the history of humanity, the way people
are just chewing through content and so and then you
get the whole entire social media world where there's an
entire cottage industry of content creators whose entire platform is
(26:04):
about whatever the latest breaking scandal story or you know
news item that has people up in arms, and you know,
and they and they all they're all following each other
and uh and I'm really looking forward. Excuse me, It
reminds me of when podcasts, whether it was like podcasts,
we're kind of hitting this peak where there was like
five hundred million of them, and I was like, when.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Are people going to get burnout on on at least
trying to be part of that system?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And I think you'll see a lot of creators kind
of drop off because it's not producing the kind of
money that they need.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's all their time and energy and the shop.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
We're going to see and realize it's incredibly draining for
the human soul to be investing its energy and what
the fuck is going on with a bunch of people who.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Aren't going to give a shit about them?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The whole the whole system is this.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I just watch it as somebody who worked in the
business research a long time, and I'm like, this is
is just a big circle jerk cycle.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, that's exactly what it is. So I don't want
to get too controversial. Here are all even having more
haters Like I showed Cynthia Elliott's modeling one of her
modeling pictures. This is my claim to fame right here.
Keith Olberman blocked you.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I was so happy when I saw that.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
That was when I did the spiel about the Democrats
last year before the election, and that episode blew up
and I had every every pundit, left wing plunge coming
after me. And here's where I'm going to get in
in into trouble again. As I said, I think we
are devolving, and I know this is this is I'll
keep this short because I know this is going to
piss a lot of people off, but we really are
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de evolving. I'm holding up here in iPhone. And the
reason that I'm holding this up is this is used
as an example of how of how advanced we've become.
All right, let me point a few things out to everybody.
The idea that you to live a good life, you're
you're going to be rewarded with an after life. That
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is about five thousand years old. The idea of nations
is about five thousand years old. The idea that there
are different strata in society because like people who are
good building stones and designing them or whatever should have
a higher status. So there's different strata in society. That
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is about five thousand years old. The idea that and
by the way, all my religious friends get mad at
me when I point out there's not many differences between
us and monkeys. I'll tell you what monkeys do, not
all monkeys, not all primates. Okay, without getting a piecemealing
out which species do what? There are species of primates
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that draw lines, imaginary lines on the ground and they
go to war over them. Now, of course, that's a
very animalistic thing to do. Human beings would never do that.
Another thing they do is they ferment alcohol. They do,
they actually do, and the among the members of the
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group that can ferment alcohol really well will give it
away in exchange for sexual favors. Now that's something that,
of course is very animalistic and something that us humans
that are so advanced and walk around with these beautiful
phones that we just spent one thousand dollars for for
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something that did virtually exactly the same thing last year.
We're much more advanced than that. We're much more advanced
from that. So I'm not sure why it's happening, but
I think we are de evolving, you know, we are
arguing about things that were settled a long time ago,
like the Earth being round. Aristophanes figured it out, you know, BC.
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He figured it out by looking at the shadows on
the ground. You noticed that there were shadows at heigh
noon in one place and there there weren't in another. Okay,
that could only work if the earth is not lat Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, Billy, I'm pretty sure that cell phones are
what that plug that goes from our human bodies into
the matrix run through.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, that's that's this.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know, when you look at what you think back
of the film, you see the like almost baby human
being plug. They're plugged in and they're an energy source
for the great power, the great system. And if you
look at cell phones and kind of the dumbing down
and the ability to manipulate you know, massive amounts of
people at any given time, like all of that's happened
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in the last twenty years and and every year that
goes by. If you look at our young kids and
their ability to handle anxiety, there, that's due to the
fact that they've been plugged into the matrix, which is
the cell phones the iPads for twenty something years.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And it is it is making us stupid. I mean
it is.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It is.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Also I will say there's not everything is bad in
that way because the people that actually want to educate
themselves have access to it in ways they never have before.
So there is this segment of the population that is
well gonna have, that has educated themselves. That's how Trump
got in office. But there's a whole lot of really
dumb people.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yes, you know, and I'm really I'm gonna I'm gonna
piss off a lot of people. I'm gonna if you
really think that we're the supreme species just because we
walk around with these phones. You go look at it.
Go look at at a at a barnyard. Go look
at a barnyard. How the how, how the sheep and
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everything are herded in a line, and then go to
a bank and look around and see what the difference is.
All Right, you are, you're standing in line and these
ropes and these little things that guide you around because
you can't do it yourself. A group of people can't
figure that out. And I'll say one that's really going
(31:47):
to be horrible. This is gonna piss a lot off.
The trigger warning. Okay, I've had friends in the mortuary business. Okay,
And if you think that necrophilia is an uncommon weird
thing that you hear in horror movies, it's not. As
a matter of fact, what there is a protocol when
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an attractive woman comes into a funeral home to make
sure that that there's somebody watching that body all the time.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
So when I knew they preferred to hire women, but
I didn't know they had to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yes, they had, they had. There's a protocol to make
sure nobody comes in to give me just some time
alone with her. No, Okay, Now, with that being in mind,
With that being in mind, you probably think you're better
than a rat, don't you. All right, Cynthia, you lived
in New York a lot of times you've seen rats.
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When was the last time you saw a rat trying
to fuck a dead rat?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Never?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Ok? It is it is actually a sign of just
how gross like when you think about it, like talk
about treating things like other humans like objects, like that's
just astonishing.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So I really me personally, I don't I'm not too
impressed by people getting on their high horse about how
advanced we are as a species, because we got this.
It don't mean shit.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
And I think AIII I mean, just in speaking about technology,
I'm a huge fan of AI. I think it's going
to help make a lot of things really great. But
I actually think that one of the biggest dangers. It's
one of the things I talk about as an AI
ethics advocate is that we have a lot of technology
coming into this world and into this country from other
places that don't give it about America, that are spying
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on people, they have the capability of manipulating people. And
then on top of that, we're introducing technology that is
actually making us lazier and dumber.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
And I'm not saying that there's not hope on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But you know, we can do things to actually stall
stop and prevent the dumbing down of human beings. And
when you think about how many people are gonna get
laid off, how many people are going to the job,
situation is going to get scary, and we've got these
devices and abilities like a robot that literally wipes our ass. Yes,
you know, you know it really when you if you've
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ever seen the movie Ready Player one, which I'm a
huge fan of, it's a great movie, but that those
scenes where the people live in these huge, you know,
horrible areas where all they do is play video games
all day, and that's actually realistic for a lot of
people in this world. Yeah, yeah, and I hate to
see that happen and that I think we have this
moment really still, we have about a year left before
(34:23):
it's all, Before it's all, she wrote, But yeah, I'd
love to do an episode where we talk about kind
of what's going on in the AI.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And oh, absolutely, we definitely got to do that. Yeah,
I do want to ask you about something else, because
you are such a good media person. Apparently it's official now,
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS,
says it will close down after federal cuts. There would
have been a time. I'm going to let you speak
about this before I set it up, because I want
I just want your raw reaction. What do you say
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to that.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I'm not surprised, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I remember when I first got Intoto Marketing and pr
in PR really the kreme de la creme of the impartial,
true journalist that reported the facts and stay. They were
very careful and cautious, but they really were there to
educate the people. And I remember when when I watched
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them stop fact checking things and I was like, oh Jesus,
this is going to be the beginning of the end.
And then I watched them become an arm of a
political party, the Democratic Party, and they almost all of
their employees were Democrats. All of their opinion pieces were
Democrat based, and the statistics of that, I think they
had one person in their New York office that was
(35:35):
a Republican.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
And I knew. I knew ten fifteen.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Years ago that I was like, Wow, this is really
sad to watch the demise of NPR and PBS like
I've watched. I loved PBS, I loved MPR. But once
you have stopped doing what your job is actually, then
you're no longer what we've designed and built and it's
time for you to either evolve or go.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah. I did a bit on this on a reason
to podcasts. I want to do it again. But I
do feel that what NPR was originally in public broadcasting
in general, was designed to do was to feed a
segment of the audience with content that would not be
supported by advertising. So it wasn't profitable for one of
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the major networks to produce the certain types of programming
it wouldn't be supported in that way. So the idea
was you could cover topics for people who were interested.
You know a lot of times esoteric things or scientific things,
programs that would not be supported in the mainstream media,
and that's originally what it was intended to do. It
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was public service, much like news was in the early
days after World War Two. News was actually a public service.
It was not a money leader. Okay, that happened later.
That happened after JFK and what happened in Dallas. Americans
were glued to their TVs for an entire weekend and
a lot of suits sitting up in building said, we
(37:00):
can make money off this new stuff, and we don't
have to hire writers, we don't have to hire sets,
we don't have to build sets, we don't have any anything.
Just run let people run in the street with the camera.
So this public service idea molded into bloviating and I
would have to look at the history of this, but
I believe it probably started with the Watergate, where you
(37:21):
just had what did the president know? How much did
he know? And when did he know it? We know
what the jowls. And pretty soon what happened is the
reporting itself became the story, and uh, it began a
dialogue that was very partisan and it was very left leaning.
(37:43):
Now I don't necessarily have a problem with that. If
you're funding yourself if you're using my dollars for that
and what you think is so important and there's so
like they're all up in arms right now that this
is the end of the world because so many people
are losing this programming. If it has grown into something
that important, then you should be able to support it
with advertising. That's that simple.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
So you know, Yeah, they became an arm of the
deep state, and that really was the beginning of the
end for them.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, Like I was talking about CNN and MSNBC, I
don't care because you know they're sinking because they're not
being supported. Well, you know, public broadcasting is essentially MSNBC,
except your tax dollars are funding it. And even if
you are, I would say the same thing. I mean,
I lean conservative. I wouldn't say I'm a conservative across
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the board. I'm like, I'm liberal when it comes to
women's rights and things like that. But let's say, for example,
I was a staunch conservative and a conservative PBS was
getting defunded. I would say the same thing, that's not
my tax dollars are not the feed. Partisanship. That should
be something that you say objectively, regardless of what your
political leanings are. I do want to wrap up with
(38:54):
this real quick, This Tulsi Gabbared thing and Operation mocking Bird.
It does seem that there's a lot of evidence that
points that the the the Russia hoax really was a hoax,
and at the at the tallest order. Now, I'm not
going to piece mail out or what I think is
true and what isn't, but the idea that it was
(39:16):
manufactured it And I'll tell you if if you really
want some good reporting on this, I really got to
point you towards Matt Tayibi Okay. I mean, uh, he's
a podcaster extraordinary, Okay, and uh he's done a lot
of things like the Twitter files, Uh, the manipulating, the
manipulation of of what the government was doing behind the scenes.
(39:37):
With that, it does seem like these narratives are not
only biased, they're not only partisan, but they're weaponized. They're
actually weaponized to smear somebody. It's one I mean, it's
one thing. It's not good to put out a partisan
thing and only present the one side of one story,
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but it's another thing to make somebody look like they
are colluding with a foreign government or whatever. What is
have you been following this? Uh? What is your opinion
about that.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
So when that story first came out, I remember I
was going through a phase where, you know, I had
been a Democrat most of my life. I mean, I
grew up Republican because I'm from Teressey. I don't know
what it's like there now, but I was. I was very,
very much I'm a liberal in many ways. I love
the arts and music and all that stuff and things
things that the Democrats pretend to care about. And I
(40:34):
got I started to get really really concerned. This is
before Trump Uh's first presidency. And then I just kept
getting increasingly concerned with the things that I was seeing
because I recognize patterns.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I've been around a long time. I know manipulation when.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
I see it, And you know, I'm okay with some
level of that if it's if it's really truly for
the good of human beings, because I accepted there's a
lot of cattle out there that can't think for themselves.
But when I heard that story, and you know, I've
actually met Trump a couple of times, and and you know,
was the world's biggest fan of his, was I running
around telling everybody, Oh, you need to you know, No,
(41:10):
I was just looking for a solution. That's one of
the reasons I voted for I was like, we need
some chaos in this world, because this is getting out
of control. But when I saw that Russian hoax story drop,
I knew the second.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I saw it that it was bullshit.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I just I knew I could smell the bullshit behind it,
and I was so speechless. Between that and the closures
over over how the media and social media giants were
being used by a handful of people to to basically
force Americans to do or experience what they decided was
right for us, I was like, I can't do this anymore.
(41:43):
And that's when I switched over and started to support
Trump and stepped away from the Democratic Party. And you know,
they've they've sort of caused their own death with all
of this.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yes, it's a scary time, you know. I you expect partisanship.
You don't expect to be vilified unfairly and made out
to be something that you're not in a harmful, weaponized fashion.
(42:13):
So if this continues, if the news on this continues
to go the way that it has been, I'm not
only very saddened, but I'm very frightened by it. Because
here again I try to be an objective person. I
don't want this happening to Trump. I don't want it
happening to Obama. I don't believe that should be happening
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to anyone that undermines a free society. And for a
long time, the press was supposed to be one of
the safeguards. That's one of the founding father's principles. That's
why it's woven into the Bill of Rights, because they
knew that public accountability was very important out of the
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stream of government. And where along the line that safety
valve has become a weapon, It has become something that
has been turned against what it originally was designed to protect.
And I just hope that that doesn't continue. So, yeah, Cynthia,
you are doing so many things, you know, speaking of
(43:21):
the modeling career, You're you're now doing clothing. You're doing
so many things. Tell me a little bit about what
you're up to.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
My book, my book Memory Mansion was back at number
one and two and three on the charts over the weekends.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I was really excited about that. I'm working on a documentary.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I've got my fashion, my sustainable fashion line which was
made in America and beautifully made. Because I worked in
fashion for a long time and I cannot tolerate the
garbage and with stores. So I created my own collection
Intension fashion dot com, so people can check that out
and them. I've got a speaking tour coming up in
the fall, in the winter, so if you like well being,
I'll be speaking in Toronto at the well Being it
(44:01):
We're giving a keynote on consciousness in the Age of AI.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
So lots of good stuff. If you want to catch
up with me, you can check.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Me out on x or on my website at shamanisis
dot com.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
That is absolutely fantastic for those of you that may
or I mean, I know if you're checking this out
for the first time. The Bill D's podcast is available
on virtually all podcast platforms. As far as I know,
we have a ten year history, ten year history with
the podcast in its current form. I actually go back
farther than that. I go back too far, too far.
(44:37):
You know, we're talking about Sidney Sweety and me, you know,
talking about Sidney Sweeney. I'm I'm over the hill. I'm
over the hill and down the other side. So I
can can imagine what people are saying, what the hell
is that guy? He have it? You know, I don't
as man, and you know they talk about viagra. Here,
here's what I do. I don't use it for what
you think. Here's what I do. I take up the
(44:59):
viagrant and I break it up into little tiny pieces,
you know, like a little potter, and I just do
that on the tip of my tongue and it's just
just enough. Saw it don't piss on my shoes. That's okay.
So but anyway you.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Can find I know way more about you than I
ever wanted to.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
And by the way, this podcast will be available on
all the major platforms with an explicit warning.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
We do that on occasion it gets us in trouble.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah yeah, I haven't checked yet, but I'll probably kicked
the f off of YouTube right now. But anyway, you
can find abilities podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms. X
is probably my social media home only because we're so
involved with news, we are so involved with trending topics.
And by the way, we got some great great interviews
coming up with some authors and authorship, new books, book marketing,
(45:55):
all that stuff, big topics. On X You can follow
me at Billy D's on on X. I have a small,
very small podcast, bade Billy D's Podcasts. It's very small,
but we do share some things there, what we're doing
behind the scenes and little updates and things like that,
not just talking about our recent episodes. So but I'm
(46:15):
gonna say, if you're gonna follow me on social media,
X is the place to be, all right, Cynthia. As always,
thank you so much for hanging out tonight with us.
We love to thank you so much for being here,
so thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Billy. I had a blast as always, h great.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Thank you very much for listening, folks, and we will
talk to you again very very soon. Bye bye. I'm
Billy D's and host of the self titled podcast, The
Billy d'es Podcast. We are primarily an interview and a
commentary based podcast featuring authors and creators talking about their craft,
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advocates for community issues, and myself in an array of
co host discussed and current events. There's no partisan renting
and raving going on here, just great content. You can
find The Billy D's Podcast on your favorite platform and
on Twitter at Billy D's. Thank you and I hope
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You are listening to the Billy D's Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, well, hello everyone, and welcome to the program.
My name is Billy D's. If this is your first
time here, first of all, welcome, so glad that you
are here. We are primarily an interview and a commentary
based podcast. We do a little both. Got a lot
of interviews going on lately. As a matter of fact,
on Friday nights we usually go live with some fun
(00:30):
commentary and as so often is the case, my very
frequent co host is Cynthia Elliotts. And oh I almost
caught her in mid drink there she was being taken
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, no, it's so good to see you. I'm psyched
to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I was gonna take a sip of my drink, but
you know, that's okay, I can swing. It's always good
to see Billy, and I'm always honored to guest co
host for showing.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh well, that's so nice. Thank you, that's great to hear. Yeah.
For the lives in about the first couple, like the
first hour, first two or to three hours. They do
very well on X SO I you know, but live,
I've noticed in general, you if you don't get the
audience soon it doesn't happen, whereas on the podcast platforms,
(01:16):
people will listen to them throughout the week because it's
part of their what they do on launch or while
they're commuting or whatever. So it's a little bit of
a different beast. But I'm glad we're strong in both
in both places, so very happy about that. Okay, getting
into the subject of today's podcast, I know these manufactured
(01:37):
controversies are are sometimes they're hard to ignore because they're
just so funny. And this thing with Sidney Sweeney, I
actually softened the title. I chickened out. My original title
was going to be Sidney Sweeney has No Weenie, but.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, come on, Billy, that would have been so much fun.
I like what went with it was I made matt
eyebrows raise, which is the point.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, So anyway, yeah, I chickened out, so I went
with something a little softer. The the the Sydney Sweeney
is probably white is a reference to what I'm going
to talk about first, which is seeing it. We're going
to talk about that first in just a moment. Now,
obviously we're going to cover Sidney Sweeney and what really
bothers me isn't so much the media controversy, but it's
(02:26):
the ignorance about genetics that when you hear people talk
about this, it's it's you know, there was a time
when I would say, you know, agreeing with you is
like saying is like trying to argue with somebody who
thinks the world is flat. If they don't know it
by now, they never will. That used to be a joke,
but that isn't the case anymore, because there isn't just
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people on the fringes who believe this that. There's a
lot of people out there who think there's a firmament
up there. It's impossible to get to the moon. You
know that that was all faked. So it's like, you know,
we talk about the evolution happened, I can tell you
we're devolving. So I'm going to talk about that a
little bit. I'm also going to ask you, because I
know you're a media person, I'm going to ask you
(03:12):
about MPR apparently it's official now no more MPR. And
we're going to talk a little bit about Tulsa Gabbard
and this Operation Muckingbird. We'll get into that. Well, yeah, anyhow,
that's kind of the flow. Let's start with seeing it again,
(03:32):
there was another mass shooter in New York and very troublesome.
And here again, if you're new to the program, generally,
what I try to do is go to an area
with some of these subjects that you would never expect.
And I haven't heard this mentioned to me. Speculating about
(03:54):
race isn't the issue here. I'm going to play the clip.
This is what happened. And while the shooter was you know,
his whereabouts were unknown, and CNN was reporting. This is
how the report went.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They do not know who he is. They know he
is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses, he appears
to have a mustache, and that picture has been distributed
to every police officer in New York City particularly, has
been sent to the phones of the search teams inside
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that building among.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Them that they did get. They do know what he
looks like.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Sunglasses, mustache, male, possibly white.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And that okay now, but you know the picture that
they had was somebody that was probably not white. I'll
put it that way. And here here's the thing. I
don't have an issue when there is a shoe and
you know for sure the son of a bitch is
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white and they call out race. I don't have a
problem with that. When CNN comes on and says, this
son of a bitch is white and he's five eleven
and he's two hundred pounds, I don't have a problem
with that at all, because that's what you need to
know when somebody's out running around, okay, and there's nothing that.
There's no racial problem with that at all, because if
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you're the police, or if you're somebody in that area
and you run across somebody who is black, at that point,
you know that's not the son of a bitch. Okay.
What I have a problem with is the speculation he's
probably white, because that is worse than not saying anything
from a technical standpoint, from a law enforcement standpoint, because
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if you are in that area and you're trying to
get to your car, you're trying to get the hell
out of there, and and CNN says, well, the shooter's
active and he's probably white. When you're on your way
to your car, when you're running through the parking lot,
you're looking for a white son of a bitch, okay,
And that's the problem. At that point, you put everybody,
you distract everybody with who potentially is the wrong suspect.
(06:14):
It's a very high danger in doing that. A lot
of people don't understand why. One of the first questions
a nine to eleven operator will ask when there's something
going on as the black or way, it's not because
they're calling out race you know, if you say the
guy's whites, when the police get there and there's the
black dude standing there, they know it's the wrong dude.
This isn't This is how these things become so convoluted
(06:36):
in these politically correct conversations. I have no idea. The
speculation from a law enforcement and a safety aspect is
what the danger was here. Do you have a comment
about this?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to when NDIA finally gives up on.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Trying to continue to use the race wars, if you will.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
It's a very underlying thing, but that's really what informs
that kind of decision. It's the fact that that plays well,
It gets attention. It's one of the I mean, I
get it when you're trying to You've got a photo.
I'm pretty sure anybody that I know would look at
that photo and say.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Medium, medium skin tone.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, because you cannot that it's clear to anybody who
has any experience that that person could be many different things.
And frankly, the media is going to kind of have
to give up on that labeling thing because pretty soon,
since we're all looking, you know, so diverse, now, that's
just not going to work. I mean, we can't even
really say white and black anymore because we've got to
re shade another sign. Yes, So yeah, it speaks really
(07:37):
to that kind that that need for them to quickly
get to that because that that helps them in some
way and getting attention to the story.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, which I really think that's what that's really about.
And I think people are over.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It, yes, and sin and I would say that overall,
Fox is probably holding its own in the rate. And
this is objectively speaking because I don't watch any of
them with any regularity. When there's a breaking news story,
an active shooter, or you know, there's an explosion somewhere,
I'll turn it on just to see if I can
(08:10):
get some live video feeds or something like that. But
for the most part, I don't watch cable news at all.
And the like I said, Fox hanging in there, the
rest of them are extremely low, extremely low. And this
is part and parcel as to why it's you're watching
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something and they're speculating, which is here again, hazardous from
a news standpoint, a safety as point, But they just
can't wait to bring color into it when they don't
even know what in the hell they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Speculation isn't journalism.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, it's not, it's absolutely not. So you know, here again,
CNN has been in the crosshairs of a lot of people,
of people like me, mostly because the standard. You know,
CNN used to be one of the good guys. You know,
you had MSNBC on the left, you had Fox on
the right, and you know CNN was boring. You had
(09:10):
uh Rush Limbay used to call wolf Blitzer wolf Blitz
because he always looked like he was Blitz. He was like, no,
I she okay, but I'm picking on wolf Blitzer, but
you know what I'm saying. But generally it was boring,
but it was basically what was going on now there.
Twenty sixteen changed everything. Uh COVID changed everything, and they're
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in the tank just with everybody else. And quite frankly,
if I was in media right now, I'm not sure
that I would be doing a whole lot with cable news. Yeah, so,
and you know, the demographics are very old for and
not that there's anything wrong with that. Like everybody's talking
the Stephen Colbert thing. I was talking about that while
you were off the last couple of episodes. His demographics
(09:58):
are sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And it's a dying demographic regard.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I mean, it's not about it's not about age, but
that when a show only has older people, they're dying show.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, and that's and one of the reasons why they're
dying is it doesn't necessarily mean that they're literally dropping dead. See,
I'm at the age now between fifty five and sixty five.
Those are the years that people like me just kill over.
You know, you're gonna find me in the driveway one
day next to my car. Now over sixty five, guys
like me have a ten city At that point, I'm
(10:29):
probably gonna die of a long term illness. You know,
that's generally how it works. But when I say that
that sixty eight isn't a north of sixty eight isn't
a good demographic, it's because those people are not spending.
Those people are not the demographic that is actively buying
new cars, actively doing whatever. They're just simply not. They're
(10:50):
sitting at home thinking about how terrible Trump is looking
at the TV watching Stephen Gobert. And Stephen Colbert does
not do comedy. He does political comment. There's nothing about
that show that to me, enter fits the mold of entertainment. Okay,
he sits there and beloviates about Trump and you know,
fifteen or twenty minutes before you ever get to a guest.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, he lost me fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I was like, being a political journalist, is it should
be about truth? It shouldn't be. Again, we're talking about
like opinion. I mean in all of his is like
his hatred of the people he doesn't like, and his
highlighting of the people he does like. It wasn't it
ninety nine nine percent of all of his guests were Democrats.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, they did a thing on it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What kind of show is that?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And you call yourself a political commentator journalist but you
only show one side?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yes, that's correct. And here again getting back to the demographics,
the boomers, and he's there. He's on the older side
of the boomers. He is that demographic. Sits there watching
cable news, and then they watched they watched something like
NCIS or whatever that is. I don't even know if
it's still on anymore, but whatever that is. And then
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they watch their local news and they watch Stephen Colbert
and that's all they do, night after night after night.
They never go out, they never do anything. And it's
very hard number one to sell anything to that demographic
from a marketing standpoint, and number two to reach them
with any new ideas. That's why Kennedy, even though RFK
Junior was a boomer, he didn't have a lot of
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support with the boomers because cable news and late night
TV did not speak about him. Well, you only knew
about him if you were, you know, on the new media,
listening to podcasts on x listen, you know, subscribing to
substack and all this, and that demographic is not doing that.
So anyway, CNN is where it is at because of
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their own doing and same same with all of them.
And Fox is guilty of two although they they've they've
managed to hold on to some. But you got to
keep in mind that none of these stations are doing
our networks are doing what they did in yours past.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay, yeah, the death of all brands just from my
twenty five years is a marketing in per pioneer is
the death of all brands is bot is when they
stop cultivating their current clientele while cultivating a future clientele
simultaneously and keeping them all happy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And none of them were doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yes, so that's the state of that. Okay, we're gonna
talk about Sidney Sweeney. And if you don't know, if
you're living under a rock, we'll just suffice it to
say that Sidney Sweeney is a very beautiful model. Okay,
and I'm going to put up if you don't mind,
I'll osk your permission. First, I have an old modeling
picture of you, because I think as a former model,
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your opinion has gravitas in a center. Okay, So here's
what was that? Estate laud or what was that?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That was a national campaign for Paul Mitchell?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Paul Mitchell. I'm sorry, okay, Paul Mitchell. So we still
want to make sure Paul Mitchell gets the credit for that.
Quite frankly, uh Shaman, you know the kind of woman
that you were back then, I can pretty much predict
you were the kind of woman that wouldn't have given
me the time of day.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So I didn't give anybody the time of.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Day, and I don't blame you. So there's there's some
other pictures you can find of Cynthia La if you
if you go digging, she's she's the one I actually like.
Isn't the one that's necessarily sensuous, but it's that one.
You have that sweater on. It's like a white knit sweater.
I think that that one is just that is just
so soft, and so I just love that picture. Oh
(14:39):
thank you, Bill, Okay, But anyway, what I was getting
at was from your aspect, Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, a beautiful girl. She's clearly talented.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, we live in the attention economy and I've
been I've been talking about this for a few years
now as somebody who worked in here for twenty five
years and did a lot of campaigns, and one one
of the things that I have gotten to the point
of just being really disgusted by is the manipulation of
the public to enhance attention. Sydney Swinging works in a
business where attention is is a huge part of it.
(15:11):
And because the entertainment, Hollywood fashion industries are all getting
completely just decimated, they're they're.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You know, they're in survival mode.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And I get that, but I would have a lot
more respect for brands like like them American Egle I
think it is. I would have a lot more respect
if they if they didn't manipulate the public and create
fake contrast firs that actually I mean, I believe they engineered.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This is my opinion.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Brands have you know, legal teams, they review things they keep,
They have pr teams that look for potential conflicts, that
things may actually cause a backlash of any kind. No
one's going to convince me that they're not playing the
Balenciaga Zara card, where you you know, slide something in
there that's going to upset people, and then you plant stories, because.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's how it works. You plant stories with a few.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Influencers to say, oh my goodness, I can't believe they
did this, and you know, and it manipulates the public.
And while it gets them a lot of tension. And
I'm all for businesses, especially American businesses, doing well, I
have very little respect for what I'm now calling yellow marketing,
just like yellow journalism. It's you know, it's low brow,
it's manipulative, it's not authentic, and I don't have a
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lot of respect for anybody or any company that upsets
people on purpose just to benefit from it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And you know, and that's really what that is.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't think it's that that upsetting and when you
see the campaign or what it's about, but it's the
fact that the that's the engine behind it is to
provoke upset and create negativity, which lowers the vibration of
everyone has to deal with it. So that's my opinion
on it. I mean, good for her, you know, lots
of attention, it's her moment. This is part of the
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machine of Hollywood entertainment. I can't even imagine working in
a business we're getting attention all the time. It was
part of my job because that it just sounds like
an awful way to live.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The only thing I will say is American Eagle, which
I believe is in Pennsylvania. They have a history of
very diverse advertising. Okay, this is just the latest one,
and they've had all different shapes and sizes and ethnicities
represented in their effort. They've been actually very good about this, Okay,
(17:23):
So a lot of the hate that they're getting from
the left is a little misplaced. Now, whether they engineered
this as a controversy or not. Maybe true, but here again,
given their past, they're not. They're not the person that
or a company that we should be holding up as
a whipping boy, because they actually have been very good
about this.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yep, this isn't the whole point. They have played the
game for a long time. But billion a lot of
fashion brands are dying.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
People are, That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean they really.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I've worked in fashion for such a long time and
I've seen it. I've seen the quality of everything across
the board absolutely die and they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
But I just like, hey, really, you know, And and
the proof for me that this was understood that they
were doing this was the absurd the size of the posters.
So I was at the mall trying to buy yoga
clothes and I happened to go by their store and
I was like, oh my god, the posters were the
largest ones I've ever seen in the store, and it
was like, here, here's our controversial campaign. But anyway, you know,
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it's just faux outrage.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, if you go buy stocks and everything else, the
initial readings on this are very good.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Of course they are, because we that's why they're doing
it because you know, if the Kardashians really poly like
old Hollywood in the fifties, they were very aware of,
you know, how to create a moment.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
The nude thing was a lesson. That was the first
sort of the first real lesson in how you can
spend controversy positively. And you know, when you get to
Kim Kardashian and the Paris Hiltons of the world, they
literally basically copied Maryland's you know, experience to create a
career for themselves. And this is what brands have learned from,
you know, the cordistions just really kind of perfected it
(19:02):
and made.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Everybody aware of it. Yes, so it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Absolutely that is, you know, all true, one hundred percent.
I will say this, I do feel that a lot
of the political correctness has you know, they say the
pendulum swings, and I think the pendulum right now is
swinging away from a lot of the political correctness. And
what they did is they just gave it a little
(19:28):
extra shove. They realized there was going in that direction,
and they just gave it a little extra shove and
it worked. Because everybody has jumped on this and actually
a lot of people from the left have said this
is ridiculous, the idea that somehow somebody who looks like
Sidney Sweeney, if you remember that the movie They Live,
where he would put on the glasses and he would
(19:49):
see what the signs really said, like spend money, bro
create and all this. I saw a good illustration where,
you know, somebody on the extream left is looking at
Sydney Swingey and they put on the glasses and they
see Hitler. You know, this is the type of bullshit
that is starting to backlash now. People have had enough
(20:13):
of it. And what I really don't like is the
manipulation in the common dialogue about genetics, you know, and
sex and male and female and all this. I'm all for,
one thousand percent for you to love whoever you want
be with, whoever you want to be with. I am
a champion and a friend of that community one thousand percent. Okay,
(20:37):
we all are on this earth for a very limited
period of time, and you should be able to live
it in whatever way gives you the most pleasure and
fulfillment and whatever it is you want to do with
your life. I'm on that one hundred percent. But what
I don't like is the twisting effects. Okay, And that's
(20:57):
where we're at now. We've reached a point where you
not only have all right to your own opinion, but
you have your right to your own set of facts. This,
my truth, is a word that kind of sticks in
my craw. Let me just say this about genetics, okay.
And like I said, I always tell the audience that
I go a direction that you don't too often. Here.
(21:22):
The Earth is approximately four and a half billion years old,
and there's any number of reasons how we know that.
I'll spare you all the nerdy details. A lot of
it has to do with the Sun, the rate that
it's burning energy, the amount of elements that it's already fused.
We can backtrack that to see how long it took
the Solar system, and the Earth itself is about four
(21:42):
and a half billion years old, and we can run
the models now with computers and everything and retrace the
orbits and all this kind of stuff and the vast
majority of time. A lot of people think that life
is something recent in the history of the Earth, and
that is absolutely not true. Almost life began right away
(22:05):
as soon as the Earth began to cool and We're
talking about millions of years here, So when I say,
I don't mean like on day two it got hot
and then it got cool over the course of millions
and billions of years. So out of that four and
a half excuse me, out of that four and a
half billion year history, let's say life began about three
(22:26):
billion years ago. But the vast majority of time that
life existed, it was microscopic, and all it basically did
was make little duplicates of itself.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So you have a very basic, microscopic living thing, and
it makes a little duplicate of itself, and they would
go on for a while, and then it would make
another one and that one would die. Okay, something happened
in the course of this, After billions of years of
(23:01):
all these little life forms just duplicating themselves, what happened
was what would become sex, and what you had would
be two of them conjoining and passing along. Let's say
something simple. At first, it lived the ones that were
(23:22):
best suited to live just a little bit longer, passed
that information to a new one, and eventually, as time
went on, how to live a little bit longer went
to a new one, and then how to get a
little bit bigger and stronger, went to a new one,
and what would become sex changed everything. It changed everything
(23:45):
almost immediately. There were trilobytes, there were other things, and
eventually dinosaurs walking the earth and the things that we
think about walking the earth are really only present in
the last five hundred and six hundred million years. Before that,
everything with me tiny, just barely microscopic, and fucking changed everything. Okay, Now,
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there's no getting around it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But it's a survival and evolution of life wanting to continue,
and it's still running.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's really running the show now, Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And to somehow twist this into some thing about racism
or whatever. This no matter what you believe in, whether
you believe in evolution, and even if you are religious,
just every religion out there has some creation myth that
involves a man and a woman fucking There's just no
(24:40):
getting around it. Okay, and the religious people even got
that right. Okay, So it's one of those things, where
where are we taking this most basic structure of what
created everything? Look out the window, everything, every living thing
(25:01):
out there. There is some asexual stuff out there, but
the vast majority of the stuff that walks talks does
crazy shit. Okay, the result of fucking that's that simple,
all right. Now, there's no point in making this ugly
or making it controversial or whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You know, this is all about supporting. So the whole
thing is it's like a trickle down effect. So you know,
this has become like a method. But it starts with
the people who have like the money or access. This
is American Eagle or you know whoever, someone famous, like
a Kim Kardashian, and they create this the moment to
drive attention. And then there's all there's the media, the
(25:43):
mass media, looking for new stories because the churn on
stories and information and people's appetite for them has reached
I mean, these off the charts. It has never been
like this in the history of humanity, the way people
are just chewing through content and so and then you
get the whole entire social media world where there's an
entire cottage industry of content creators whose entire platform is
(26:04):
about whatever the latest breaking scandal story or you know
news item that has people up in arms, and you know,
and they and they all they're all following each other
and uh and I'm really looking forward. Excuse me, It
reminds me of when podcasts, whether it was like podcasts,
we're kind of hitting this peak where there was like
five hundred million of them, and I was like, when.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Are people going to get burnout on on at least
trying to be part of that system?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And I think you'll see a lot of creators kind
of drop off because it's not producing the kind of
money that they need.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's all their time and energy and the shop.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
We're going to see and realize it's incredibly draining for
the human soul to be investing its energy and what
the fuck is going on with a bunch of people who.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Aren't going to give a shit about them?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The whole the whole system is this.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I just watch it as somebody who worked in the
business research a long time, and I'm like, this is
is just a big circle jerk cycle.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, that's exactly what it is. So I don't want
to get too controversial. Here are all even having more
haters Like I showed Cynthia Elliott's modeling one of her
modeling pictures. This is my claim to fame right here.
Keith Olberman blocked you.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I was so happy when I saw that.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
That was when I did the spiel about the Democrats
last year before the election, and that episode blew up
and I had every every pundit, left wing plunge coming
after me. And here's where I'm going to get in
in into trouble again. As I said, I think we
are devolving, and I know this is this is I'll
keep this short because I know this is going to
piss a lot of people off, but we really are
(27:36):
de evolving. I'm holding up here in iPhone. And the
reason that I'm holding this up is this is used
as an example of how of how advanced we've become.
All right, let me point a few things out to everybody.
The idea that you to live a good life, you're
you're going to be rewarded with an after life. That
(27:57):
is about five thousand years old. The idea of nations
is about five thousand years old. The idea that there
are different strata in society because like people who are
good building stones and designing them or whatever should have
a higher status. So there's different strata in society. That
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is about five thousand years old. The idea that and
by the way, all my religious friends get mad at
me when I point out there's not many differences between
us and monkeys. I'll tell you what monkeys do, not
all monkeys, not all primates. Okay, without getting a piecemealing
out which species do what? There are species of primates
(28:41):
that draw lines, imaginary lines on the ground and they
go to war over them. Now, of course, that's a
very animalistic thing to do. Human beings would never do that.
Another thing they do is they ferment alcohol. They do,
they actually do, and the among the members of the
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group that can ferment alcohol really well will give it
away in exchange for sexual favors. Now that's something that,
of course is very animalistic and something that us humans
that are so advanced and walk around with these beautiful
phones that we just spent one thousand dollars for for
(29:22):
something that did virtually exactly the same thing last year.
We're much more advanced than that. We're much more advanced
from that. So I'm not sure why it's happening, but
I think we are de evolving, you know, we are
arguing about things that were settled a long time ago,
like the Earth being round. Aristophanes figured it out, you know, BC.
(29:49):
He figured it out by looking at the shadows on
the ground. You noticed that there were shadows at heigh
noon in one place and there there weren't in another. Okay,
that could only work if the earth is not lat Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, Billy, I'm pretty sure that cell phones are
what that plug that goes from our human bodies into
the matrix run through.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, that's that's this.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know, when you look at what you think back
of the film, you see the like almost baby human
being plug. They're plugged in and they're an energy source
for the great power, the great system. And if you
look at cell phones and kind of the dumbing down
and the ability to manipulate you know, massive amounts of
people at any given time, like all of that's happened
(30:32):
in the last twenty years and and every year that
goes by. If you look at our young kids and
their ability to handle anxiety, there, that's due to the
fact that they've been plugged into the matrix, which is
the cell phones the iPads for twenty something years.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And it is it is making us stupid. I mean
it is.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It is.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Also I will say there's not everything is bad in
that way because the people that actually want to educate
themselves have access to it in ways they never have before.
So there is this segment of the population that is
well gonna have, that has educated themselves. That's how Trump
got in office. But there's a whole lot of really
dumb people.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yes, you know, and I'm really I'm gonna I'm gonna
piss off a lot of people. I'm gonna if you
really think that we're the supreme species just because we
walk around with these phones. You go look at it.
Go look at at a at a barnyard. Go look
at a barnyard. How the how, how the sheep and
(31:26):
everything are herded in a line, and then go to
a bank and look around and see what the difference is.
All Right, you are, you're standing in line and these
ropes and these little things that guide you around because
you can't do it yourself. A group of people can't
figure that out. And I'll say one that's really going
(31:47):
to be horrible. This is gonna piss a lot off.
The trigger warning. Okay, I've had friends in the mortuary business. Okay,
And if you think that necrophilia is an uncommon weird
thing that you hear in horror movies, it's not. As
a matter of fact, what there is a protocol when
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an attractive woman comes into a funeral home to make
sure that that there's somebody watching that body all the time.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
So when I knew they preferred to hire women, but
I didn't know they had to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yes, they had, they had. There's a protocol to make
sure nobody comes in to give me just some time
alone with her. No, Okay, Now, with that being in mind,
With that being in mind, you probably think you're better
than a rat, don't you. All right, Cynthia, you lived
in New York a lot of times you've seen rats.
(32:42):
When was the last time you saw a rat trying
to fuck a dead rat?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Never?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Ok? It is it is actually a sign of just
how gross like when you think about it, like talk
about treating things like other humans like objects, like that's
just astonishing.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So I really me personally, I don't I'm not too
impressed by people getting on their high horse about how
advanced we are as a species, because we got this.
It don't mean shit.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
And I think AIII I mean, just in speaking about technology,
I'm a huge fan of AI. I think it's going
to help make a lot of things really great. But
I actually think that one of the biggest dangers. It's
one of the things I talk about as an AI
ethics advocate is that we have a lot of technology
coming into this world and into this country from other
places that don't give it about America, that are spying
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on people, they have the capability of manipulating people. And
then on top of that, we're introducing technology that is
actually making us lazier and dumber.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
And I'm not saying that there's not hope on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But you know, we can do things to actually stall
stop and prevent the dumbing down of human beings. And
when you think about how many people are gonna get
laid off, how many people are going to the job,
situation is going to get scary, and we've got these
devices and abilities like a robot that literally wipes our ass. Yes,
you know, you know it really when you if you've
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ever seen the movie Ready Player one, which I'm a
huge fan of, it's a great movie, but that those
scenes where the people live in these huge, you know,
horrible areas where all they do is play video games
all day, and that's actually realistic for a lot of
people in this world. Yeah, yeah, and I hate to
see that happen and that I think we have this
moment really still, we have about a year left before
(34:23):
it's all, Before it's all, she wrote, But yeah, I'd
love to do an episode where we talk about kind
of what's going on in the AI.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And oh, absolutely, we definitely got to do that. Yeah,
I do want to ask you about something else, because
you are such a good media person. Apparently it's official now,
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS,
says it will close down after federal cuts. There would
have been a time. I'm going to let you speak
about this before I set it up, because I want
I just want your raw reaction. What do you say
(34:52):
to that.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I'm not surprised, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I remember when I first got Intoto Marketing and pr
in PR really the kreme de la creme of the impartial,
true journalist that reported the facts and stay. They were
very careful and cautious, but they really were there to
educate the people. And I remember when when I watched
(35:15):
them stop fact checking things and I was like, oh Jesus,
this is going to be the beginning of the end.
And then I watched them become an arm of a
political party, the Democratic Party, and they almost all of
their employees were Democrats. All of their opinion pieces were
Democrat based, and the statistics of that, I think they
had one person in their New York office that was
(35:35):
a Republican.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
And I knew. I knew ten fifteen.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Years ago that I was like, Wow, this is really
sad to watch the demise of NPR and PBS like
I've watched. I loved PBS, I loved MPR. But once
you have stopped doing what your job is actually, then
you're no longer what we've designed and built and it's
time for you to either evolve or go.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah. I did a bit on this on a reason
to podcasts. I want to do it again. But I
do feel that what NPR was originally in public broadcasting
in general, was designed to do was to feed a
segment of the audience with content that would not be
supported by advertising. So it wasn't profitable for one of
(36:18):
the major networks to produce the certain types of programming
it wouldn't be supported in that way. So the idea
was you could cover topics for people who were interested.
You know a lot of times esoteric things or scientific things,
programs that would not be supported in the mainstream media,
and that's originally what it was intended to do. It
(36:39):
was public service, much like news was in the early
days after World War Two. News was actually a public service.
It was not a money leader. Okay, that happened later.
That happened after JFK and what happened in Dallas. Americans
were glued to their TVs for an entire weekend and
a lot of suits sitting up in building said, we
(37:00):
can make money off this new stuff, and we don't
have to hire writers, we don't have to hire sets,
we don't have to build sets, we don't have any anything.
Just run let people run in the street with the camera.
So this public service idea molded into bloviating and I
would have to look at the history of this, but
I believe it probably started with the Watergate, where you
(37:21):
just had what did the president know? How much did
he know? And when did he know it? We know
what the jowls. And pretty soon what happened is the
reporting itself became the story, and uh, it began a
dialogue that was very partisan and it was very left leaning.
(37:43):
Now I don't necessarily have a problem with that. If
you're funding yourself if you're using my dollars for that
and what you think is so important and there's so
like they're all up in arms right now that this
is the end of the world because so many people
are losing this programming. If it has grown into something
that important, then you should be able to support it
with advertising. That's that simple.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
So you know, Yeah, they became an arm of the
deep state, and that really was the beginning of the
end for them.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, Like I was talking about CNN and MSNBC, I
don't care because you know they're sinking because they're not
being supported. Well, you know, public broadcasting is essentially MSNBC,
except your tax dollars are funding it. And even if
you are, I would say the same thing. I mean,
I lean conservative. I wouldn't say I'm a conservative across
(38:33):
the board. I'm like, I'm liberal when it comes to
women's rights and things like that. But let's say, for example,
I was a staunch conservative and a conservative PBS was
getting defunded. I would say the same thing, that's not
my tax dollars are not the feed. Partisanship. That should
be something that you say objectively, regardless of what your
political leanings are. I do want to wrap up with
(38:54):
this real quick, This Tulsi Gabbared thing and Operation mocking Bird.
It does seem that there's a lot of evidence that
points that the the the Russia hoax really was a hoax,
and at the at the tallest order. Now, I'm not
going to piece mail out or what I think is
true and what isn't, but the idea that it was
(39:16):
manufactured it And I'll tell you if if you really
want some good reporting on this, I really got to
point you towards Matt Tayibi Okay. I mean, uh, he's
a podcaster extraordinary, Okay, and uh he's done a lot
of things like the Twitter files, Uh, the manipulating, the
manipulation of of what the government was doing behind the scenes.
(39:37):
With that, it does seem like these narratives are not
only biased, they're not only partisan, but they're weaponized. They're
actually weaponized to smear somebody. It's one I mean, it's
one thing. It's not good to put out a partisan
thing and only present the one side of one story,
(39:59):
but it's another thing to make somebody look like they
are colluding with a foreign government or whatever. What is
have you been following this? Uh? What is your opinion
about that.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
So when that story first came out, I remember I
was going through a phase where, you know, I had
been a Democrat most of my life. I mean, I
grew up Republican because I'm from Teressey. I don't know
what it's like there now, but I was. I was very,
very much I'm a liberal in many ways. I love
the arts and music and all that stuff and things
things that the Democrats pretend to care about. And I
(40:34):
got I started to get really really concerned. This is
before Trump Uh's first presidency. And then I just kept
getting increasingly concerned with the things that I was seeing
because I recognize patterns.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I've been around a long time. I know manipulation when.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
I see it, And you know, I'm okay with some
level of that if it's if it's really truly for
the good of human beings, because I accepted there's a
lot of cattle out there that can't think for themselves.
But when I heard that story, and you know, I've
actually met Trump a couple of times, and and you know,
was the world's biggest fan of his, was I running
around telling everybody, Oh, you need to you know, No,
(41:10):
I was just looking for a solution. That's one of
the reasons I voted for I was like, we need
some chaos in this world, because this is getting out
of control. But when I saw that Russian hoax story drop,
I knew the second.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I saw it that it was bullshit.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I just I knew I could smell the bullshit behind it,
and I was so speechless. Between that and the closures
over over how the media and social media giants were
being used by a handful of people to to basically
force Americans to do or experience what they decided was
right for us, I was like, I can't do this anymore.
(41:43):
And that's when I switched over and started to support
Trump and stepped away from the Democratic Party. And you know,
they've they've sort of caused their own death with all
of this.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yes, it's a scary time, you know. I you expect partisanship.
You don't expect to be vilified unfairly and made out
to be something that you're not in a harmful, weaponized fashion.
(42:13):
So if this continues, if the news on this continues
to go the way that it has been, I'm not
only very saddened, but I'm very frightened by it. Because
here again I try to be an objective person. I
don't want this happening to Trump. I don't want it
happening to Obama. I don't believe that should be happening
(42:33):
to anyone that undermines a free society. And for a
long time, the press was supposed to be one of
the safeguards. That's one of the founding father's principles. That's
why it's woven into the Bill of Rights, because they
knew that public accountability was very important out of the
(42:57):
stream of government. And where along the line that safety
valve has become a weapon, It has become something that
has been turned against what it originally was designed to protect.
And I just hope that that doesn't continue. So, yeah, Cynthia,
you are doing so many things, you know, speaking of
(43:21):
the modeling career, You're you're now doing clothing. You're doing
so many things. Tell me a little bit about what
you're up to.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
My book, my book Memory Mansion was back at number
one and two and three on the charts over the weekends.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I was really excited about that. I'm working on a documentary.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I've got my fashion, my sustainable fashion line which was
made in America and beautifully made. Because I worked in
fashion for a long time and I cannot tolerate the
garbage and with stores. So I created my own collection
Intension fashion dot com, so people can check that out
and them. I've got a speaking tour coming up in
the fall, in the winter, so if you like well being,
I'll be speaking in Toronto at the well Being it
(44:01):
We're giving a keynote on consciousness in the Age of AI.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
So lots of good stuff. If you want to catch
up with me, you can check.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Me out on x or on my website at shamanisis
dot com.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
That is absolutely fantastic for those of you that may
or I mean, I know if you're checking this out
for the first time. The Bill D's podcast is available
on virtually all podcast platforms. As far as I know,
we have a ten year history, ten year history with
the podcast in its current form. I actually go back
farther than that. I go back too far, too far.
(44:37):
You know, we're talking about Sidney Sweety and me, you know,
talking about Sidney Sweeney. I'm I'm over the hill. I'm
over the hill and down the other side. So I
can can imagine what people are saying, what the hell
is that guy? He have it? You know, I don't
as man, and you know they talk about viagra. Here,
here's what I do. I don't use it for what
you think. Here's what I do. I take up the
(44:59):
viagrant and I break it up into little tiny pieces,
you know, like a little potter, and I just do
that on the tip of my tongue and it's just
just enough. Saw it don't piss on my shoes. That's okay.
So but anyway you.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Can find I know way more about you than I
ever wanted to.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
And by the way, this podcast will be available on
all the major platforms with an explicit warning.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
We do that on occasion it gets us in trouble.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah yeah, I haven't checked yet, but I'll probably kicked
the f off of YouTube right now. But anyway, you
can find abilities podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms. X
is probably my social media home only because we're so
involved with news, we are so involved with trending topics.
And by the way, we got some great great interviews
coming up with some authors and authorship, new books, book marketing,
(45:55):
all that stuff, big topics. On X You can follow
me at Billy D's on on X. I have a small,
very small podcast, bade Billy D's Podcasts. It's very small,
but we do share some things there, what we're doing
behind the scenes and little updates and things like that,
not just talking about our recent episodes. So but I'm
(46:15):
gonna say, if you're gonna follow me on social media,
X is the place to be, all right, Cynthia. As always,
thank you so much for hanging out tonight with us.
We love to thank you so much for being here,
so thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Billy. I had a blast as always, h great.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Thank you very much for listening, folks, and we will
talk to you again very very soon. Bye bye. I'm
Billy D's and host of the self titled podcast, The
Billy d'es Podcast. We are primarily an interview and a
commentary based podcast featuring authors and creators talking about their craft,
(46:55):
advocates for community issues, and myself in an array of
co host discussed and current events. There's no partisan renting
and raving going on here, just great content. You can
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