July 28, 2023 • 50 mins
This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to discuss the 2023 film, "They Cloned Tyrone." The modern take on a blaxploitation film follows three unlikely heroes as they uncover a government conspiracy against Black people. The random topic this week is about rapper Ice Cube sitting down with known white supremacist Tucker Carlson to have a rather surface level dialogue about race in America, the COVID-19 vaccination, and more. We examine the issues with even participating in these bad faith interviews and why its ultimately hurtful to the community, not helpful.
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The last time change. Let's wrapwith James You. Hello, welcome to
a brand new preview episode for Blackand Black Cinema. I'm your host,
Jay, I'm my co host Michael. Hello, Tiaray and Terence. What's
up? All right, guys,we're back. This is a preview episode
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for episode two forty six. Theyclone Tyrone. So this movie the basically
the log line here is a bunchof scary events happen, leading three unlikely
characters to investigate this government conspiracy,which clearly is cloned based on the title.
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Starring John Boyega, Jamie Fox,and uh Tie on Paris. So
we'll talk about that in depth nextweek. It is a blaxploitation movie,
so that's important for people who don'tknow that going in, but we'll talk
about it in depth next week.Just a quick note, we're back on
video this week, but I amI apologize for sounding a little echoe.
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I'm gonna try my best to keepthat down for this episode, but it
should be fixed by the time wedo episode two forty six. The random
topic this week is about black popularrappers doing dumb shit tap dancing for white
folks for some fucking reason. Thelatest episode would be ice Cube doing a
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ride along with his favorite white supremacist, Tucker Carlson through South central LA,
doing a bunch of anti vax bullshit, and you know, just you know,
telling what it's like to be blackin America and how great it is.
Not really, but you know,talking about what what he deals with
in his career, and you knowwhat black folks deal with or what have
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you. But people are more pissedoff that he's speaking to a person who
could give two fuss about black peopleand goes out of their way to shoot
on black people every chance they getta. What were your thoughts on us?
I'm over it. I'm over blackrappers like ice Cube, or even
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folks like Michael was second to Briancamp a couple of years ago, pretending
like therefore something, but partnering upwith the folks who want to destroy the
very thing they think to care about. I don't think it's necessarily surprise to
anyone who who's followed ice Cube overthe last few years or so. I
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mean, he did the the Contractwith Black America thing during the twenty twenty
election, and and acqus like JoeBiden of not critical signing that Black contract
with America. Otherwise we we Ithink he was speaking for all of us
Black folks that that we wouldn't votefor him. And it's just like,
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who are you to try to speakfor us and then literally cozy up to
white supremacists. I would love toknow the reaction of the folks who live
in south central LA to this story, because if he had done that and
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let's say Baltimore or something like that, I've I would be honestly discussed by
it. Taco Carlson is a racistwho pedals violence and encouraged his violence.
That's why he got fired from oneof the reasons why he got fired from
Fox News. And also Tug Carlsonis was at the front of spreading conspiracy
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theories about covid an illness that disproportionatelyimpact to black people. So Ice keep
to going there to also talk abouthis anti vax sentiments. I'm just I'm
over just supporting people like that.I feel the same way about folks like
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Kanye, feel the same way aboutfolks like Brian killing Mike as well.
Yeah, That's where I'm at,Uh, Terrence, what are your thoughts
this? Nigga? Man? Idon't The interesting thing about this is I
don't think he is actually like suckingup to Techa Carlson. I don't think
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any of these rappers or whatever areactually sucking up to these people. I
think they actually do believe in whatthey're saying. The problem is the people
that they're talking with, the talkingto, whether it be Brian Camp or
Tucker Carlson, are using them right, because they're kind, They're because they're
because their conversations are always surface level. Like do you think that you think
the United States is racist? Islike, well, yeah it is,
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and it's incredibly racist. But likeIce c will say, well, I
have friends that are white that I'mreally cool with, but I also have
some black folks that I can't stand. It's not about race. It's like,
well that's not the point, right, Yeah, Like the point is
racism has fucked us over for century, for centuries at this point, and
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like you you're a millionaire, butlike you became a millionaire because you entertained
white folks. Stephen Hrter, whowas that line in Was It Coffee or
Foxy Brown that Antonio Fargus said,He's like, I'm not good enough to
be on television I'm not athletic enoughto be a football player, So what
the am I supposed to do?Like, you're a very good rapper,
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and so you know, you madea lot of money doing it, and
I'm sure you give back to thecommunity. I'm sure you you've got these
other ventures, but like you literallymade all your money by entertaining white folks.
And and I'm sure just just asin the side, I'm sure that
people are gonna say, you know, white people aren't who you know used
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to listen to que back in theday or whatever. Yes they were,
yes, yeah, yeah they were. And also without white folks exactly.
Yeah, that was exactly my point. Like black people, yeah, we
we love ice Cuper whatever. Butyeah, these stars don't go platinum or
diamond or whatever without a significant amountof white listeners. The vast majority of
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their listeners are white. So yeah, so it's I don't like, yeah,
they get these people like get theseThey'll pick someone that like, AM
a free freethinker, I don't followthe status quo. And all of a
sudden, bullshit like he's anti vacs. He missed out on like ten million
dollars because he didn't get the vaccinefor and he was supposed to be doing
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a movie. I was like,yeah, I didn't take it because I
don't trust it. Okay, finewhatever, Sure, but yeah, that's
why he that's why he called you. And the other thing is I don't
know if Tucker because my brother acouple of years ago worked for Fox for
for a couple of months and heactually worked on the Tucker Costs ship.
Right when he was finished, hewas like Tuck, he actually had conversations
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with Tucker Costs. I don't thinkTucker Costs is racist. I don't,
but he pedals in it because that'swhat makes me money. Yeah, I
don't think any of these guys actuallybelieve I don't think any of these people
are racist. I don't think they'refucking biggest because like he could talk to
anybodybody right, Like if he waslike a straight racist, he would he
would be like, I'm not talkingto this lowly ass nigga, but he
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would like to talk to him.He's like very friendly and all this other
ship. But like they peddling thisshit so and that's what makes them money.
But he's dangerous. He may notbe racist, but he's dangerous because
the people that listen to him,right, and that's the problem. Yeah,
but these are not as smart aspeople think they are. So I
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don't why why do you this isfor everyone? And I'm like it's plenty
too, but like, why doyou think that folks like ice Cube allow
themselves to be used by folks likeTucker Carlson or Brian Kemp or another far
right winger who is honestly not interestedin the things that ice Cube because they
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think they're they're they're creating a dialoguelike, look, I can talk.
I'm a hardcore gangster rapp and Ican talk to this, so like,
if I can do it, y'allcan do it. But again, the
dialogue is incredibly super superficial, andthe other that person sways the dialogue and
they like chop up the fucking footageto make it seem to push it,
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to sway it in their in theirdirection. It's fucked up. So the
thing I would think I would addto that smart market's pretty smart, but
like you know, like the thingI would I would add to that is
is that there are but there arepeople who are more reasonable and have told
them that they're that while they understandtheir approach to creating a dialogue. I
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feel like the responses from folks likeice Cube or Kill the Mike when they
received backlash to this has it's almostlike it's almost like they're keeping all of
the energy that they should have forsomeone like Tucker Carlson, who who is
doing real damage to how we consumenews and how we think about our electoral
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processes and everything. The energy thatwe have for them. People like ice
Cub and Kill the Mike had thatfor the folks who are trying to tell
them, like, hey, thosepeople are bad faith actors. They are
using you as volfual idiots. Sobut so so so their responses to the
criticism is what continues to baffle mein a sense. But yeah, Mike,
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at your thoughts, I want tofollow up on what you said to
you are but I want to hearmicast this is just another episode of Carcoon
Karaoke, guys, like it's justperfect. Look look at that one,
like, well, you know,I had to kind of think of something,
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you know, you know, likethe other material was a better Jerry.
Yeah, yeah, I think so. But you know, I gotta
I gotta do something for y'all.Look, man, I agree with with
Terrence for the most part. II a Tiara and probably jay I.
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I don't think that these guys areracist. Once you make a certain amount
of money, like you just kindof can't be bothered with that shit,
especially if you like know, minoritieswith money. Like when you look at
that video and Tucker Carlson is andlook, this guy's a professional bullshitter man.
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And ice Cube as clever as heis with words, he ain't that
clever with words right like behind it, like like Tucker Carlson is asking him
leading questions, he's framing it asso they commanded you. They commanded you
to take the VACU like like that'swhat I'm saying. They're smarter than the
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people that they're Actually they're smart,like Tucker Carlson, I think it's smarter
than I Cube, but like iceCube is more like no, Tucker Carson
has a lot of money too.He's got but he was born in yeah
he was. It looks ice Cubeis streets smart. He very much is.
He is streets smart, and heis business savvy. And and Tuck
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Carlson is is clever like he's he'snot dumb like anyone who positions themselves to
make a lot of money. Isn'ta moron, right, Like as much
as Trump is dumb, as muchas Trump is dumb, he is savvy,
right, And that's what I thinkmost of these guys are. They're
savvy, they're snake oil salesman.It's it's it's it's been done for literally
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since the dawn of of man,right, and and people keep falling for
it, and it just it's sad. It's sad. One. Look,
I understand when you get older,people have a tendency to get a little
more conservative, and when you gotmoney, you tend to be a lot
more conservative, you know, typically, But it's I just think it's sad,
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right, Like the dude that was, you know, fuck the police
and you know, I'm not lettingthis guy to take advantage of me.
Is literally letting a guy take advantageof Like if you look at that video,
you see Tucker Carlson asking these leadingquestions and using certain words that you
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know, to play to, toplay off of ice cubes ego, Like
it's not hard to deduce. He'salso like he's got a sense of glee
about it, right, Like fuckinggrin on his face, Yeah, because
one he knows he's getting away withsomething. And two it's like wow,
like like it's like the look islike you're being driven through a nature preserve
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right, Like that's the look thathe has. And it's just like I
and I feel I feel sad.Look, I don't have a problem creating
a dialogue, because that's what weneed to do more often. We need
to have a dialogue. We needto talk with people that don't agree with
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us. The problem is we bothhave to come to the conversation in good
faith and have real conversations. That'sthe point. And and and he's nobody
wants to have real conversations. No, like you said, Terrence is all
surface level. Well, why didn'tyou take the vaccine? You know why
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he didn't take the vaccine. Everybodyknows why he didn't take the vaccine.
He said it. He's yelling itfrom the mountaintops, right. And instead
of a nine million dollar payday,he wanted to roll the dice and roll
the dice. We wanted to playRussian Roulette with him and his lover.
And he looked he made it right. He's fine. And even if he
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did get it, he probably dideven if he did get it right,
like, you're not he's rich.I don't know. There's something about money,
yo, there's something about my magic. Johnson got aid and it's still
fucking just around because there's something abouthaving money. He had money in the
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early nineties, right right, Andthat's not like it's I don't know,
man, I just feel I feelI feel sad, like I don't feel
ashamed for Ice Cubed. I feelI just feel ashamed, like damn man
like I don't feel a shame,I feel ushamed like so so my I
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mean my thoughts here are I thinkit is? This is a This is
like the textbook evolution of these sortof politically active rappers right there. There
are there are two two ways thisgoes. There is, you become sort
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of a philanthropist and you kind ofreally keep grounded and still on the same
issues that you've always pushed on,right, whether that is publicly funding certain
things or privately funding them. Right, Like, you can take a look
at like a jay Z and Beyonceright like, they fund a lot of
black programs and they kind of keeptheir names out of it and people kind
of eventually find out about it.But they just kind of do. They
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don't. They don't broadcast their opinionstoo much on it. They're just like,
we're trying to help black folks.Just keep buying my music white people.
I'm still going to funnel this moneyto black people, right, I
got no problem with that. Ithink, frankly, it's probably the better
way to go. And then there'sthe other aspect, which is what Terrence
talked about, which is the freethinkers. Right, spoiler alert. Freethinker is
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just another phrase for a person who'suneducated, Like in the modern term,
that's all that means. I'm afreethinker. You mean you're free from knowledge,
free from books like cool, noproblem, free from intellectual rigor.
Yeah. Absolutely, You're definitely freeof those things. And I'm free not
to listen. But it's Kanye Westtalked about that, right, he's a
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freethinker. It's just that these guyshave been largely because they have money,
and then because they have access,they have been surrounded by yes men and
women who tell them every idea thatthey've ever had is brilliant. And you
know, nobody's thinking like you're thinking, nobody, nobody has the balls to
have the conversation with Tucker Carlson,like you, ice Cube, nobody you
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know, you know you can doit. You can do it. And
like you said, like you know, he's being let around basically by his
nose in that conversation, right,like he legitimately is because he's actually not
savvy enough in that world to say, Yeah, they didn't order me to
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take the vacs. What happened isit was a requirement to do the movie.
I chose because I'm an American.I chose what to do or what
not to do. That's perfectly withinmy choice, and other people are within
their choice. That would be areasonable answer. But to just go along
with they they made you do it, and you've refused, They didn't make
you do anything. Guess what,they didn't make you do it. You
know how I know they didn't makeyou do it because you didn't do it.
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They didn't make you do anything.That's a dumb fucking thing to say.
And I largely agree with with Terrenceabout these guys don't really believe what
they peddle, Like I don't believethat. I don't. I think they
are well aware, like you wouldhave to be a massive ignoramus to listen
to the ship that they peddle andthink that it's logically consistent. They're hoping
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that you're in ignoramus. That's whyyou're buying into it. But all of
these guys, their their goal isto stand out because as artists, fundamentally,
that is what they've always had todo. Right, so they think
when they move into politics, thebest way to stand out is to do
the opposite of what everyone else isdoing. Right Killer Mike, as much
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as he talks about black liberation andsays a lot of things I absolutely agree
with, why the fuck would youstand next to Brian Kemp. It doesn't
ideologically make any sense except from theperspective of I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
go the opposite direction that everyone elseis going because I'm a freethinker, right
like it doesn't. It just doesn'tfundamentally make any sense. Ice Q can't
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talk about, you know, helpingblack people and everything else. When if
you watch Tucker Carlson for nine secondson television, you watch any interview with
this asshole, you can tell hedoesn't give a fuck about black people,
and quite the opposite, right,he is trying to pump up hatred towards
other races and things like that,like that's what he does. So I
think these guys are just told thatthey're so god damn amazing and that they
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should do the opposite of or theythink they should do the opposite of what
all other black people are doing.And that's why you get these ideologically inconsistent,
fucking thought processes. It doesn't makeany sense. It's weed logic.
It's weed. It is it is. I mean, I make it decisions
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on the ship. And this iswhere I'm like where I think, I
just why I sound like I'm overa lot of folks like ice Cube and
why I'm just like am I I'membarrassed for it for him because I mean,
yeah, you can watch it twoseconds of Carlson's show and know he
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is completely full of it. Buteven then, Tucker Carlson's like lawyers even
said that you cannot take anything hesays seriously because he lies, like that's
that's that's like record, that's that'sa that's a real thing. But but
then there's another aspect to this thatI think it's it's far more serious,
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is that people like ice Cube havea platform there are people who do listen
to them, and if you're goingto come out and get into into into
politics, you have to do yourdue diligence to make sure that you were
spreading the right messages. And thefact that they aren't even taking the steps
to do that tells me it's itdoesn't feel like it's about the community.
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To me, it's about It's abouttheir egos. That's it. That's it,
because there are plenty of black people, rich black people who don't do
this, who who have been successfulfor a very long time, who could
possibly be just out of touch essentiallywith with with what it means to live
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like a regular person, who aren'tdoing this. So I just I don't
have any patience for something like thisthat ice Cube is doing. And just
like, this is what he saidabout the covex. There's no repercussions if
they're wrong, but I get allthe repercussions if they're wrong. I I
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read that, and I was youjust you can tell that when he said
that, he thought he says somethingyeah, no, And but also Balsa.
Further down in this article, itsays when when Carlson asked ICEQ if
he knows you wh who's been injuredby the vaccine. A question to sure
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inflame anti backs of conspiracy theories,he said, yes, I do,
and they stuff every day. It'shard to watch who names use are those
white people who be shaking on Twitterpretending what they got issues lyon there have
been there have been reports and theirreports of COVID nineteen killing black people,
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and other people call them more sothan than than the people and to come
out and I know, and Iknow like most people have gotten backs and
made it. Hopefully hopefully they're listeningto she vaccinated and we're kind of password
the worst of COVID nineteen. Butit's still dangerous to just for those types
of conspiracy theory, conspiracy theories,because they to promoting other conspiracy theories.
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So in one surprised me if iceCup has some other stupid ass type of
conspiracy theory that big he peddles aswell, and in COVID nineteen, vaccinations
are just one of them. Markablebeing antibacky is one of them. Look
I have long said this. LookI have long said this. We are
a conspiratorial people, and because ofour history, we have every right to
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be. In a lot of ways, but at the same time, like,
yo, not everything is a fuckingconspiracy. Lebron's son didn't have a
cardiac event because of fucking COVID,Like you got to stop peddling in that
ship because it's just simple minded nonsense. That's all it is. It's super
easy to not think it's in COVID, COVID, COVID, like nigga,
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what else? Nope, that's it. Like are you hoping you're correct?
Are you hoping that billions of peopleare going to drop dead? Like what
is your point here? It's reallynot true? But yeah, like I
said, like this is this isan egos and I just think as in
a time where information is so rampant, it's so easily believable on social media
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and in folks shows like Tucker Carlson'swhich is it shows a Twitter show everyone?
And if he didn't know he hasa show on Twitter, Like where're
misinformation is so rampant and we're comingup again on on another election season,
Like this is not the time tofuck around. And I would prefer if
he just said nothing. By theway, why do you think Tucker Carlson
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had him on? That's why it'sit's to sway black people away from the
Democratic Party. That's all it is. That's all it is, so they
can they can submit more power.That's all it is. It's using black
people against other black people. Y'allsay, thinking this shit out, Yet
it's so annoying to me and andnot and not the black people. Black
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man, Yeah, it's a blackman. It is black because black women
don't. As far as the audiencebetween Carlson and ice Cube, I don't
know what the fuck intersection that is. But white men, who who were
they looking for to watch this interviewto sway them to like, you know,
agree with whatever the fuck was goingon in this interview. If years,
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oh, I could tell you whowhite white white men who love rat
music but are low key quotable libertarianbut are actually low key conservatives and just
need an excuse to just completely supportright wing ideology. But we're gonna we're
gonna vote the Trump anyway, that'smy thing. They also want black They
also want black men who refer toKevin Samuels as the godfather godfather. Yet
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but these are grown ass niggas again, ice Cube is a fifty four year
old black Yes, I was likewhen fuck the Police came out. I
was fucking eight ten years old whenwhen that song came out, So I
remember their song. But there arekids that don't know this nigga from anything.
But are we there yet? Yeah, it's not it's not them.
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We're not getting younger they're not gettingyounger voters because that's not the block that
that's the block you want to get, right. Yeah, but they know
that that's that's that's a rap,that's a I mean, I mean that
the younger young young people. Butlike ice Cube may think, hey,
this interview, I might get someyounger people to don't know vote, No
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they do. Now, well here'sthe thing, when sad like they would
trumpet so they were for Trump.The younger voters are like those white boys
I was talking about who who listenedto old school hip hop but don't actually
support or like black people. Andwhen it comes to an election, would
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they vote Probably not, or theywill probably vote their party to put quote
make a stand. But this isdefinitely in the tent to get those people
to either vote for Trump or dowhatever it takes it just not vote for
Democrats. And I will say thesame, it's for as like I said
black dude who really like Kevin Samuelsand also pedal in another No, look,
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that's if you're if you're if you'retrying, if you're trying to get
these like Manisphere black dudes Like,Yeah, that's what they're aiming at absolutely,
because all of that anti woman shit, anti you know, diversity shit,
that that all goes together, rightbecause it's like, well, ice
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Q came up in the time wherelike machismo was like a big thing,
right, like just being like theuber you know, the uber male ideal
or whatever, right like that appealsto them. It appeals to the music
wasn't soft and and shit like thatthat appeals to them. Like that stuff
like that Manisphere stuff appeals to youngmen. To young men like you try
to get those guys at a youngage when your hormones are raising. You
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don't know shit, you can't getfull of come is what they say.
And you just can't, like,you don't you don't know what to think.
And then here comes this Here comesthis guy that you know, you
think is cool or whatever, andhe's telling you like, bitches ain't shit
but holes and tricks. Right,Like Nigga's been married for thirty one year
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flight. You know what I'm saying. You got married in nineteen ninety two.
He's had he's been married to thesame woman for thirty one Wait wait,
you're talking about all Right's Cube.Oh yeah, yeah. But that's
how they get the young people,yo. Like, that's how that's where
the that's where the intersection is alsotreating women like shit like its lyrics,
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but they ship right now. IAlso another thing is like the folks like
Way Home, they they never theynot. They never call out folks like
Tucker Carson for the stuff that they'vesaid. That's they never that. So
talk. So, Mike, goingback to what we said, having the
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dialogue are having having the conversations.They don't want to have the conversation either.
They don't they don't want to getinto it with talk Carlson about about
their own stances. So the onlytime I've ever seen the only time I've
ever seen Ice Cube go into itis when he went after Bill Maher for
when Bill Mark called himself a housenigga, house nigga, and he didn't
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I remember that episode. He cain'tgo that hard, He ain't go that
hard. He really didn't like butno, I mean it just but Bill
Maher brought him on for that,right, like, that's that was what
that was, right because and Ithink HBO made him do it. So
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And usually with folks like that whowon't who again won't keep that same energy
before folks like like Tevi Carlson,they will have the energy against one group
of people or mainly a certain groupof people, and that's usually black women
who who tell them they're being fuckingstupid. But look, go ahead,
oh go ahead, No I wasgonna say. I mean, it's it's
it's black women, it's it's liberalfolks who will call them out in whatever
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you know, gender like, it'sso much easier for them to kick down
on those people. It's way easier, right because they don't have money,
they don't have power, they don'thave influence. You're not gonna how hard
you're gonna kick Bill Maher. BillMaher is a multimillionaire and Bill Markin put
you on TV when you got anew album out, right, So how
hard are you're gonna really kick kickup at him? Even though he says
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a wild shit, right, Butsomebody on the internet or somebody who's that
you see as a lower station thanyou. You can kick at them all
day. So yeah, killing Mikeice Cube all those guys, they're gonna
have way more fucking fire for thosepeople because it's easier and no offense intellectually
when it comes to this type ofshit. They're not particularly deep thinkers,
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and so it's easier to just attack. It's just easier to attack all the
time. Well, what does thatsay about how they actually feel about the
communities that they claim to support,because community support mostly vote vote democratic and
liberal and progressive. I hope ittells people to stop listening to That's what
I hope that's what it tells you. Stop listening to that. No,
that's what tells you. It tellsyou they want you to they want to
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siphon you off. I was lookingat a comment on Instagram. Somebody says
something. It was some dumb postand someone says something about, like,
I've been trying to tell these blackpeople that you gotta yo, don't vote
Democrat. They don't care about you. And my life has been so much
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better because I voted Republican, becauseI'm trying to keep my money in this,
that and the other, and likelike we live in a society,
guys. I hate to do thatshit, yo, but like we do
like and we have to look outfor other people, yo. And this
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ain't looking out for other people.I don't know. You're not even looking
out for yourself. But like ifyou said, I'm glad I voted Republican,
Like are you married? Right?Like are you a married man?
Like what if you what if yourwife has a child? What if your
wife gets pregnant in a in ared state? Any empathy and and if
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she has and if she needs orwants but really needs an abortion due to
a medical emergency. There what right? Exactly, That's exactly what's going Like
what happens. What happens is thenyou voted Republican and they they so job.
I don't forget a story I readabout that for someone in Texas and
they voted for Governor Abbott and thenthey ran into the situation and they had
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to beg their Trump supporting family membersfor money, and they're family members were
very electant to give it to them. But she and she almost died.
Almost cruelty is the point. Ican't I know the tree that nigga right?
Yeah, like legs yeah, that'swhy. From the lick from the
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we were running in a rainstorm anda tree fell on him. Good,
that's hilarious. Much like his name. I know what you're gonna say,
don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. It's funny because
that nig like he passed the billwhere you can't give water to fucking construction
works. They can't take twenty minutewater bricks and like a couple of people
died like a couple of weeks agobecause of that ship. Yeah, thousand
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degrees outside in Texas. Hope anothertree hits right, but face, but
that would be fine. But youknow, the just but the idea of
these guys rallying around these sort ofyou know what I would argue a white
supremacist icons. It's just pathetic.I mean it really is, but I
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don't I really, I'm I amsad that it works on some people.
But like I saw the other day, right, what's what's the dude from
Florida? Like you know him Donald'sthe Conservative? Yeah, I forget his
name. My wife don't really fuckhim anymore. They like knew each other,
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right, Yeah, And like thisdude is a representative from Florida.
Right, he's a conservative black manand put him for like speaker the house
for like a week. Yeah yeah, of course, oh yeah he lost,
because of course he did. Theywere like, let's see what happens.
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See we like you anyway, ata boy, move out of the
way. But the he literally gota pat on the hit. Yeah,
they literally did. Look it up. Look it up. They patted this
nigga on their head in his lastname is Donald's. But yeah, it's
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a while, it's a will moment. But like he came out this week
and was like, well, youknow, we don't approve as a black
conservert. I don't approve of howthey're changing the education, you know,
requirements on black history in Florida.You know, I'm a Floridian, I'm
I'm a black conservert. I don'tappreciate it. Oh no, oh well,
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you know, apparently every nigga whowas every nigga who was in chains
was a great blacksmith by the endof it, Like apparently they're fucking obsessed
with that, right, But buthere's this guy complaining about it, and
I'm like, nigga, this isyour party. These are the people you
roll with. So it's like whenI hear Killer Mike, when I hear
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Ice Cube, you know, saddleup next to these guys will be easily
duped or easily used by these guys. Right. What I all I can
think is you're going to end upin this exact moment where you go,
whoa, whoa, whoa. I'mnot cool with that, But then we've
already given them our vote because welisten to your stupid ass. Look,
Killing Mike, I think you're anamazing rap, I really do. I
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think you're super talented. I'm notgonna listen to your ass when it comes
to politics. I'm just fucking not. I'm not gonna listen to I'm not
gonna listen to jay Z. I'mnot gonna listen to Eminem. I'm gonna
go read. That's what I'm gonnado. I'm not gonna listen to you
niggas, Like I'm not. Idon't give a fuck, make and leave
it there. I'm sorry. I'mjust I'm just seeing this photo of like
they really just like pat his headlike on the back, like like come
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on, So I like, comeon boy, like I'm just yes,
wow, And this nigga showed upto work the next day. He didn't
fist fight none of these dudes.Right, then, that's crazy. How
do you show like you you don'thave black friends, right, or like
you just you don't talk to anyother black people, right because you want
you want access in power more thanyou want to say, hey man,
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this is unacceptable. And again thereare contrariants. There are just people who
go everybody going left. I'm goingright because guess what, most people are
wrong about shit, So if Igo to the opposite direction, then I'll
probably be right. I'm a freethinker. And just in this, in
this series of this, the seriousnessof this is evident in are one of
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our last previous episodes about affirmative actionand how that guy, an Asian man
was used as a voteful idiot andmouthpiece for that's correct white conservative men.
And now affirmative action is right.It's not a game. Vote yeah,
and they never have an alternative.It's like, maybe you don't want to
vote for Republicans, but but then, okay, what's the alternative? Stop
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they say, stop voting Democrat?All right? Cool? Well, Terrence,
if you if you don't vote,that means whatever happens in the in
the result of the election doesn't impactme because I didn't vote. That's literally
the logic that a lot of thesepeople had. No Yah, they literally
say we'll get more power next time. Is that how you think fascism works?
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One plus one is nineteen? You'vedumb? Fuck? What are you
talking about? Cool? You're notvoting now, we don't have to think
about you and just kick you rightin the face as we move roll tanks
right through your town. How dumbare you, y'all? How fucking dumb
are you? That makes me somad? I can't. That just really
bothers me that an adult person wouldthink like that to say, don't vote
and somehow that gains you more power. That's literally the opposite of how it
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works. Jay, We're going toshow them our power by not using our
power. Protest is crazy. Thisis crazy. That's crazy. You'd have
a better chance of putting up anindependent candidate and putting all your power behind
that than not voting. What thefuck? We tried? And then and
but he keeps voting for democrats,you know, and try and keeps running
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as a Democrat every four years orso. No, No, that ain't
gonna work. Nah, I'm notgonna work. I can't look. I
can't wait to watch. I can'twait to watch these same people back Cornell
West right in this failed campaign becausethey are deeply un serious, just like
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sadly he's become as well, deeplyfucking serious. And if you have the
problem with me saying that, Ifeel like you have not been paying attention
to what Cornell West has been saying. So I have so fuck off in
the comments gets right now, An, these folks ask for money. I'm
broken. I'm broke. Don't callhim give them any money. Look,
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there's only one look I'll give you. I'll give you five hundred paces I
got I got you for five hundredpaces. Let's let's look at the conversion
right right now, better than ain'tfucking much? I got you? I
got you. No, you knowwhat, that's too much. That's twenty
nine dollars. Nah, fuck thatyou fit? You know what? Fifty
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those that's three dollars. I gotyou for three bucks. Wow. No,
but it's just it's ridiculous, andit is this desire to try to
lead black people to slaughter, iswhat what you're trying to do. And
it's it's really said. When youwere talking about uh Donald's, Brian Donald's,
Brian Donald, Byron Donald's, Iwas like, you know, all
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right, he's a republic I don't, I don't, I don't. I
know, I know black Republicans,I don't hate them all. But I
was like, all right, wellmaybe maybe. And then I kept looking
and I saw something popped up anhour ago. Uh So I clicked the
link. It's Fox News. Sorry, and he Bron de Santists kind of
(40:53):
takes a jab at him, right, and he says the article says the
Santists gave Donald's an ultimatum either sidewith what he refers to as the free
state of Florida. Okay, hesides with Vice President Kamala Harris and the
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liberal media outlets who have railed againstthe curriculum, claiming it teaches students that
slaves actually benefited from slavery. Quote. So at the end of the day,
you got to choose. Are yougoing to side with Kamala Harris?
He probably said, Kamala Harris andthe liberal media outlets, are you gonna
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side with the state of Florida.I think it's very clear these guys did
a good job on those standards.It wasn't anything that was politically motivated.
These are serious scholars, So don'tside with Kamala on that stand up for
your state. Again, there's anotherwhite guy I don't know, run to
Santus is white. This is anothernon black person who passes as white,
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literally pitting a black man against ablack one, like quite literally doing it.
And I'm curious. I'm curious asto what the outcome that I know
is going to be. Okay,thank you, What what this nigga is
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gonna do? And he's gonna fallin line? That's right, basically what
he's saying. It's either you're eitherwith us or you're against us, right,
And like you're right, he's becauselike, why did you pick Kamala
Harris of like all the peeps,of all the people black woman. He
could have said by outspoken about thatwhole curriculous she should. I'm just saying,
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though, like to pick her.It's so I think that the worst
part, one of the worst partsabout all this is that it's all so
predictable. It's right there, likeyou know, like Stevie wanted to concede
this ship without binoculars from three milesaway. Man, it's the same stupid
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ass playbook that they're all doing.But it work. But but it for
some reason, for some reason,it works. It works for like,
yeah, it's a couple of knuckleheads, but it still works because it can't
happen to them, Jay, theyare the special unicorn black person whatever that's
going to these races as white people'sminds or other or an other conservatives minds,
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like they think that they have aspecial one. They think that they're
the one. That's what it is. And then if you're a nigga,
what's the appeal for being a conservative? That's a wild that's a wild statement.
That's a wild sentence. I needto know. I don't. I
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don't know many black conservatives of blackRepublican I don't know. But what's the
appeal outside of like lower taxes?I don't know. It's trying to keep
my money if you're in if you'rein a certain tax bracket, it's money,
right, I know I know that, But but I mean, besides
that, like it's socially one hundredthousand dollars in under tax bracket. What's
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not as like one of those blackpeople. It's not even I don't know
what part of it is that,but honestly, like because i've I've spoken
to these people, it's it's it'snot necessarily it's one. It's you know,
niggas made fun of me, sofuck them, right and and two
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and two it's religion like it itis. It is if you are a
little more fundamentalist, you know,if you say things like if you say
things like I believe in those psychlike okay, but what what is that?
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It's it's it's that, it's it'syou know, it's it's all social
until you get to a certain taxbrack and like we're not we're not that
different from white people, right likeespecially I mean, like I don't put
me in there's a lot of difference. Okay, there's a lot of differences.
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There's a there's a there's a verythere's a very surly white man out
there right now. It's like,you know, ternces Terns and I are
exactly like like there was a whitedouble ganging for terrace. You know,
I'm sure so, but I don'tknow, man, I I lost my
point, but I just I mean, look, I'll pick up a little
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bit from what you're saying, like, what is what is the appeal of
for a black person to be conservative? I mean, honestly, I think
the I was made fun of.That's a that's a really big one.
That it's weird. It's a reallybig one. It's super common. Nuts,
this is a super common like maybelook, maybe you grow up in
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your life. Damn, I can'tgrow a beard. I guess I'll be
conservative. Like like that's another one, right, Like that's a top tier
one. And but Byron Donald,I thought like, look if you if
you see him walking down the street, you would never know that he was
conservative. Yeah, he got abeard. He breaking stereotypes like blade,
he looks like free away. Andthen you start talking to him like,
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oh, I don't know what hesounds like. He sound like he Nope,
he don't sound he don't even soundlike a typical conservative black dude.
He sounds like he doesn't like podcast. All right, Relax, relax,
relax. He's got a regular ass, Like he doesn't put on that weird
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ass like conservative boys everybody. Youknow, it's also weird. You know,
it's also weird. He's from Brooklyn, Yo, what all right?
Brooklyn? You take an elf ofthat god Jesus Christ, like that's that's
that's not okay, that's not okay. But look, I mean, look,
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at the end of the day,I think we have to continuously call
out what is this obvious playbook oftrying to siphon black people off during an
election series. We all never hearfrom ice Cube on anything until this time
for somebody to run for president andhe can help fuck people over so that
he can save a couple of coinsat tax times that you never involved any
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other part of the year for actualnever you will never hear anything from him
other ones. Also part of itis because ice Cube has a basketball league
that is like not doing as wellas he would like. So this is
partly why you see him, partlywhy you see that Big Three league or
whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah, he's I think he's doing pressed to
(48:09):
try and convince people that. Imean, it's a whole thing, But
I think that's part of it.But I don't know that that's the overlap.
I don't get like you're trying toget people to watch the Big Three
motherfuckers who have to go to aTwitter show for Tucker calls and ain't watching
(48:31):
the Big Three. I think Ican go out and say that so wild
take, but I'll allow you todo that on the show. Yeah.
I just I want people to stoplistening to these guys just because you like
their music or the art that theymake. That is not indicative of whether
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they know what the fuck they're talkingabout when it comes two things as very
serious as your future in this inyou know, in the United State dates
as far as you know what happens, these are the same people who will
lead you to slaughter and you willlose your rights and it will never affect
them. Pay attention just because theperson is someone you like in another avenue.
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Pay attention to what they say,not just affect that they're talking.
That is incredibly important. Like richpeople are genuinely pieces of shit across the
board they generally are. Just assumethat they are and then try to find
the exceptions. It's way easier todo that than it is to just believe
that they're not pieces of shit.Yeah, Like, how many times you're
(49:35):
gonna find out, like my favoritecelebrity is a fucking dirt bag? Yeah
no, kidden, like of course, Like, yeah, you find out,
you know, they're breaking up marriages, you know, because they pretended
to be Asian this week instead ofLatin or whatever. Right, isn't that
what she does and they break upmarriage? Is it's someone who wish just
(49:57):
not my type. Just sai sayon board in one other person. Whatever.
That's t R way of saying thatNigga's ugly. We'll say she's trying
to be a good person. Knockat off. All right, That is
it for this preview episode. We'llbe back next week for episode two forty
six. They clone Tyrone. Bythe way, you can watch it on
(50:19):
Netflix if you if you're not aware, all right, we'll see you guys
next time. See you bye.But yeah, yeah, yeah,
The last time change. Let's wrapwith James You. Hello, welcome to
a brand new preview episode for Blackand Black Cinema. I'm your host,
Jay, I'm my co host Michael. Hello, Tiaray and Terence. What's
up? All right, guys,we're back. This is a preview episode
(00:33):
for episode two forty six. Theyclone Tyrone. So this movie the basically
the log line here is a bunchof scary events happen, leading three unlikely
characters to investigate this government conspiracy,which clearly is cloned based on the title.
(00:55):
Starring John Boyega, Jamie Fox,and uh Tie on Paris. So
we'll talk about that in depth nextweek. It is a blaxploitation movie,
so that's important for people who don'tknow that going in, but we'll talk
about it in depth next week.Just a quick note, we're back on
video this week, but I amI apologize for sounding a little echoe.
(01:19):
I'm gonna try my best to keepthat down for this episode, but it
should be fixed by the time wedo episode two forty six. The random
topic this week is about black popularrappers doing dumb shit tap dancing for white
folks for some fucking reason. Thelatest episode would be ice Cube doing a
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ride along with his favorite white supremacist, Tucker Carlson through South central LA,
doing a bunch of anti vax bullshit, and you know, just you know,
telling what it's like to be blackin America and how great it is.
Not really, but you know,talking about what what he deals with
in his career, and you knowwhat black folks deal with or what have
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you. But people are more pissedoff that he's speaking to a person who
could give two fuss about black peopleand goes out of their way to shoot
on black people every chance they getta. What were your thoughts on us?
I'm over it. I'm over blackrappers like ice Cube, or even
(02:25):
folks like Michael was second to Briancamp a couple of years ago, pretending
like therefore something, but partnering upwith the folks who want to destroy the
very thing they think to care about. I don't think it's necessarily surprise to
anyone who who's followed ice Cube overthe last few years or so. I
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mean, he did the the Contractwith Black America thing during the twenty twenty
election, and and acqus like JoeBiden of not critical signing that Black contract
with America. Otherwise we we Ithink he was speaking for all of us
Black folks that that we wouldn't votefor him. And it's just like,
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who are you to try to speakfor us and then literally cozy up to
white supremacists. I would love toknow the reaction of the folks who live
in south central LA to this story, because if he had done that and
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let's say Baltimore or something like that, I've I would be honestly discussed by
it. Taco Carlson is a racistwho pedals violence and encouraged his violence.
That's why he got fired from oneof the reasons why he got fired from
Fox News. And also Tug Carlsonis was at the front of spreading conspiracy
(03:53):
theories about covid an illness that disproportionatelyimpact to black people. So Ice keep
to going there to also talk abouthis anti vax sentiments. I'm just I'm
over just supporting people like that.I feel the same way about folks like
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Kanye, feel the same way aboutfolks like Brian killing Mike as well.
Yeah, That's where I'm at,Uh, Terrence, what are your thoughts
this? Nigga? Man? Idon't The interesting thing about this is I
don't think he is actually like suckingup to Techa Carlson. I don't think
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any of these rappers or whatever areactually sucking up to these people. I
think they actually do believe in whatthey're saying. The problem is the people
that they're talking with, the talkingto, whether it be Brian Camp or
Tucker Carlson, are using them right, because they're kind, They're because they're
because their conversations are always surface level. Like do you think that you think
the United States is racist? Islike, well, yeah it is,
(05:03):
and it's incredibly racist. But likeIce c will say, well, I
have friends that are white that I'mreally cool with, but I also have
some black folks that I can't stand. It's not about race. It's like,
well that's not the point, right, Yeah, Like the point is
racism has fucked us over for century, for centuries at this point, and
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like you you're a millionaire, butlike you became a millionaire because you entertained
white folks. Stephen Hrter, whowas that line in Was It Coffee or
Foxy Brown that Antonio Fargus said,He's like, I'm not good enough to
be on television I'm not athletic enoughto be a football player, So what
the am I supposed to do?Like, you're a very good rapper,
(05:45):
and so you know, you madea lot of money doing it, and
I'm sure you give back to thecommunity. I'm sure you you've got these
other ventures, but like you literallymade all your money by entertaining white folks.
And and I'm sure just just asin the side, I'm sure that
people are gonna say, you know, white people aren't who you know used
(06:06):
to listen to que back in theday or whatever. Yes they were,
yes, yeah, yeah they were. And also without white folks exactly.
Yeah, that was exactly my point. Like black people, yeah, we
we love ice Cuper whatever. Butyeah, these stars don't go platinum or
diamond or whatever without a significant amountof white listeners. The vast majority of
(06:29):
their listeners are white. So yeah, so it's I don't like, yeah,
they get these people like get theseThey'll pick someone that like, AM
a free freethinker, I don't followthe status quo. And all of a
sudden, bullshit like he's anti vacs. He missed out on like ten million
dollars because he didn't get the vaccinefor and he was supposed to be doing
(06:53):
a movie. I was like,yeah, I didn't take it because I
don't trust it. Okay, finewhatever, Sure, but yeah, that's
why he that's why he called you. And the other thing is I don't
know if Tucker because my brother acouple of years ago worked for Fox for
for a couple of months and heactually worked on the Tucker Costs ship.
Right when he was finished, hewas like Tuck, he actually had conversations
(07:15):
with Tucker Costs. I don't thinkTucker Costs is racist. I don't,
but he pedals in it because that'swhat makes me money. Yeah, I
don't think any of these guys actuallybelieve I don't think any of these people
are racist. I don't think they'refucking biggest because like he could talk to
anybodybody right, Like if he waslike a straight racist, he would he
would be like, I'm not talkingto this lowly ass nigga, but he
(07:38):
would like to talk to him.He's like very friendly and all this other
ship. But like they peddling thisshit so and that's what makes them money.
But he's dangerous. He may notbe racist, but he's dangerous because
the people that listen to him,right, and that's the problem. Yeah,
but these are not as smart aspeople think they are. So I
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don't why why do you this isfor everyone? And I'm like it's plenty
too, but like, why doyou think that folks like ice Cube allow
themselves to be used by folks likeTucker Carlson or Brian Kemp or another far
right winger who is honestly not interestedin the things that ice Cube because they
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think they're they're they're creating a dialoguelike, look, I can talk.
I'm a hardcore gangster rapp and Ican talk to this, so like,
if I can do it, y'allcan do it. But again, the
dialogue is incredibly super superficial, andthe other that person sways the dialogue and
they like chop up the fucking footageto make it seem to push it,
(08:46):
to sway it in their in theirdirection. It's fucked up. So the
thing I would think I would addto that smart market's pretty smart, but
like you know, like the thingI would I would add to that is
is that there are but there arepeople who are more reasonable and have told
them that they're that while they understandtheir approach to creating a dialogue. I
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feel like the responses from folks likeice Cube or Kill the Mike when they
received backlash to this has it's almostlike it's almost like they're keeping all of
the energy that they should have forsomeone like Tucker Carlson, who who is
doing real damage to how we consumenews and how we think about our electoral
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processes and everything. The energy thatwe have for them. People like ice
Cub and Kill the Mike had thatfor the folks who are trying to tell
them, like, hey, thosepeople are bad faith actors. They are
using you as volfual idiots. Sobut so so so their responses to the
criticism is what continues to baffle mein a sense. But yeah, Mike,
(10:00):
at your thoughts, I want tofollow up on what you said to
you are but I want to hearmicast this is just another episode of Carcoon
Karaoke, guys, like it's justperfect. Look look at that one,
like, well, you know,I had to kind of think of something,
(10:22):
you know, you know, likethe other material was a better Jerry.
Yeah, yeah, I think so. But you know, I gotta
I gotta do something for y'all.Look, man, I agree with with
Terrence for the most part. II a Tiara and probably jay I.
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I don't think that these guys areracist. Once you make a certain amount
of money, like you just kindof can't be bothered with that shit,
especially if you like know, minoritieswith money. Like when you look at
that video and Tucker Carlson is andlook, this guy's a professional bullshitter man.
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And ice Cube as clever as heis with words, he ain't that
clever with words right like behind it, like like Tucker Carlson is asking him
leading questions, he's framing it asso they commanded you. They commanded you
to take the VACU like like that'swhat I'm saying. They're smarter than the
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people that they're Actually they're smart,like Tucker Carlson, I think it's smarter
than I Cube, but like iceCube is more like no, Tucker Carson
has a lot of money too.He's got but he was born in yeah
he was. It looks ice Cubeis streets smart. He very much is.
He is streets smart, and heis business savvy. And and Tuck
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Carlson is is clever like he's he'snot dumb like anyone who positions themselves to
make a lot of money. Isn'ta moron, right, Like as much
as Trump is dumb, as muchas Trump is dumb, he is savvy,
right, And that's what I thinkmost of these guys are. They're
savvy, they're snake oil salesman.It's it's it's it's been done for literally
(12:26):
since the dawn of of man,right, and and people keep falling for
it, and it just it's sad. It's sad. One. Look,
I understand when you get older,people have a tendency to get a little
more conservative, and when you gotmoney, you tend to be a lot
more conservative, you know, typically, But it's I just think it's sad,
(12:52):
right, Like the dude that was, you know, fuck the police
and you know, I'm not lettingthis guy to take advantage of me.
Is literally letting a guy take advantageof Like if you look at that video,
you see Tucker Carlson asking these leadingquestions and using certain words that you
(13:13):
know, to play to, toplay off of ice cubes ego, Like
it's not hard to deduce. He'salso like he's got a sense of glee
about it, right, Like fuckinggrin on his face, Yeah, because
one he knows he's getting away withsomething. And two it's like wow,
like like it's like the look islike you're being driven through a nature preserve
(13:41):
right, Like that's the look thathe has. And it's just like I
and I feel I feel sad.Look, I don't have a problem creating
a dialogue, because that's what weneed to do more often. We need
to have a dialogue. We needto talk with people that don't agree with
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us. The problem is we bothhave to come to the conversation in good
faith and have real conversations. That'sthe point. And and and he's nobody
wants to have real conversations. No, like you said, Terrence is all
surface level. Well, why didn'tyou take the vaccine? You know why
(14:22):
he didn't take the vaccine. Everybodyknows why he didn't take the vaccine.
He said it. He's yelling itfrom the mountaintops, right. And instead
of a nine million dollar payday,he wanted to roll the dice and roll
the dice. We wanted to playRussian Roulette with him and his lover.
And he looked he made it right. He's fine. And even if he
(14:46):
did get it, he probably dideven if he did get it right,
like, you're not he's rich.I don't know. There's something about money,
yo, there's something about my magic. Johnson got aid and it's still
fucking just around because there's something abouthaving money. He had money in the
(15:07):
early nineties, right right, Andthat's not like it's I don't know,
man, I just feel I feelI feel sad, like I don't feel
ashamed for Ice Cubed. I feelI just feel ashamed, like damn man
like I don't feel a shame,I feel ushamed like so so my I
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mean my thoughts here are I thinkit is? This is a This is
like the textbook evolution of these sortof politically active rappers right there. There
are there are two two ways thisgoes. There is, you become sort
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of a philanthropist and you kind ofreally keep grounded and still on the same
issues that you've always pushed on,right, whether that is publicly funding certain
things or privately funding them. Right, Like, you can take a look
at like a jay Z and Beyonceright like, they fund a lot of
black programs and they kind of keeptheir names out of it and people kind
of eventually find out about it.But they just kind of do. They
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don't. They don't broadcast their opinionstoo much on it. They're just like,
we're trying to help black folks.Just keep buying my music white people.
I'm still going to funnel this moneyto black people, right, I
got no problem with that. Ithink, frankly, it's probably the better
way to go. And then there'sthe other aspect, which is what Terrence
talked about, which is the freethinkers. Right, spoiler alert. Freethinker is
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just another phrase for a person who'suneducated, Like in the modern term,
that's all that means. I'm afreethinker. You mean you're free from knowledge,
free from books like cool, noproblem, free from intellectual rigor.
Yeah. Absolutely, You're definitely freeof those things. And I'm free not
to listen. But it's Kanye Westtalked about that, right, he's a
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freethinker. It's just that these guyshave been largely because they have money,
and then because they have access,they have been surrounded by yes men and
women who tell them every idea thatthey've ever had is brilliant. And you
know, nobody's thinking like you're thinking, nobody, nobody has the balls to
have the conversation with Tucker Carlson,like you, ice Cube, nobody you
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know, you know you can doit. You can do it. And
like you said, like you know, he's being let around basically by his
nose in that conversation, right,like he legitimately is because he's actually not
savvy enough in that world to say, Yeah, they didn't order me to
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take the vacs. What happened isit was a requirement to do the movie.
I chose because I'm an American.I chose what to do or what
not to do. That's perfectly withinmy choice, and other people are within
their choice. That would be areasonable answer. But to just go along
with they they made you do it, and you've refused, They didn't make
you do anything. Guess what,they didn't make you do it. You
know how I know they didn't makeyou do it because you didn't do it.
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They didn't make you do anything.That's a dumb fucking thing to say.
And I largely agree with with Terrenceabout these guys don't really believe what
they peddle, Like I don't believethat. I don't. I think they
are well aware, like you wouldhave to be a massive ignoramus to listen
to the ship that they peddle andthink that it's logically consistent. They're hoping
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that you're in ignoramus. That's whyyou're buying into it. But all of
these guys, their their goal isto stand out because as artists, fundamentally,
that is what they've always had todo. Right, so they think
when they move into politics, thebest way to stand out is to do
the opposite of what everyone else isdoing. Right Killer Mike, as much
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as he talks about black liberation andsays a lot of things I absolutely agree
with, why the fuck would youstand next to Brian Kemp. It doesn't
ideologically make any sense except from theperspective of I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
go the opposite direction that everyone elseis going because I'm a freethinker, right
like it doesn't. It just doesn'tfundamentally make any sense. Ice Q can't
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talk about, you know, helpingblack people and everything else. When if
you watch Tucker Carlson for nine secondson television, you watch any interview with
this asshole, you can tell hedoesn't give a fuck about black people,
and quite the opposite, right,he is trying to pump up hatred towards
other races and things like that,like that's what he does. So I
think these guys are just told thatthey're so god damn amazing and that they
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should do the opposite of or theythink they should do the opposite of what
all other black people are doing.And that's why you get these ideologically inconsistent,
fucking thought processes. It doesn't makeany sense. It's weed logic.
It's weed. It is it is. I mean, I make it decisions
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on the ship. And this iswhere I'm like where I think, I
just why I sound like I'm overa lot of folks like ice Cube and
why I'm just like am I I'membarrassed for it for him because I mean,
yeah, you can watch it twoseconds of Carlson's show and know he
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is completely full of it. Buteven then, Tucker Carlson's like lawyers even
said that you cannot take anything hesays seriously because he lies, like that's
that's that's like record, that's that'sa that's a real thing. But but
then there's another aspect to this thatI think it's it's far more serious,
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is that people like ice Cube havea platform there are people who do listen
to them, and if you're goingto come out and get into into into
politics, you have to do yourdue diligence to make sure that you were
spreading the right messages. And thefact that they aren't even taking the steps
to do that tells me it's itdoesn't feel like it's about the community.
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To me, it's about It's abouttheir egos. That's it. That's it,
because there are plenty of black people, rich black people who don't do
this, who who have been successfulfor a very long time, who could
possibly be just out of touch essentiallywith with with what it means to live
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like a regular person, who aren'tdoing this. So I just I don't
have any patience for something like thisthat ice Cube is doing. And just
like, this is what he saidabout the covex. There's no repercussions if
they're wrong, but I get allthe repercussions if they're wrong. I I
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read that, and I was youjust you can tell that when he said
that, he thought he says somethingyeah, no, And but also Balsa.
Further down in this article, itsays when when Carlson asked ICEQ if
he knows you wh who's been injuredby the vaccine. A question to sure
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inflame anti backs of conspiracy theories,he said, yes, I do,
and they stuff every day. It'shard to watch who names use are those
white people who be shaking on Twitterpretending what they got issues lyon there have
been there have been reports and theirreports of COVID nineteen killing black people,
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and other people call them more sothan than than the people and to come
out and I know, and Iknow like most people have gotten backs and
made it. Hopefully hopefully they're listeningto she vaccinated and we're kind of password
the worst of COVID nineteen. Butit's still dangerous to just for those types
of conspiracy theory, conspiracy theories,because they to promoting other conspiracy theories.
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So in one surprised me if iceCup has some other stupid ass type of
conspiracy theory that big he peddles aswell, and in COVID nineteen, vaccinations
are just one of them. Markablebeing antibacky is one of them. Look
I have long said this. LookI have long said this. We are
a conspiratorial people, and because ofour history, we have every right to
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be. In a lot of ways, but at the same time, like,
yo, not everything is a fuckingconspiracy. Lebron's son didn't have a
cardiac event because of fucking COVID,Like you got to stop peddling in that
ship because it's just simple minded nonsense. That's all it is. It's super
easy to not think it's in COVID, COVID, COVID, like nigga,
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what else? Nope, that's it. Like are you hoping you're correct?
Are you hoping that billions of peopleare going to drop dead? Like what
is your point here? It's reallynot true? But yeah, like I
said, like this is this isan egos and I just think as in
a time where information is so rampant, it's so easily believable on social media
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and in folks shows like Tucker Carlson'swhich is it shows a Twitter show everyone?
And if he didn't know he hasa show on Twitter, Like where're
misinformation is so rampant and we're comingup again on on another election season,
Like this is not the time tofuck around. And I would prefer if
he just said nothing. By theway, why do you think Tucker Carlson
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had him on? That's why it'sit's to sway black people away from the
Democratic Party. That's all it is. That's all it is, so they
can they can submit more power.That's all it is. It's using black
people against other black people. Y'allsay, thinking this shit out, Yet
it's so annoying to me and andnot and not the black people. Black
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man, Yeah, it's a blackman. It is black because black women
don't. As far as the audiencebetween Carlson and ice Cube, I don't
know what the fuck intersection that is. But white men, who who were
they looking for to watch this interviewto sway them to like, you know,
agree with whatever the fuck was goingon in this interview. If years,
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oh, I could tell you whowhite white white men who love rat
music but are low key quotable libertarianbut are actually low key conservatives and just
need an excuse to just completely supportright wing ideology. But we're gonna we're
gonna vote the Trump anyway, that'smy thing. They also want black They
also want black men who refer toKevin Samuels as the godfather godfather. Yet
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but these are grown ass niggas again, ice Cube is a fifty four year
old black Yes, I was likewhen fuck the Police came out. I
was fucking eight ten years old whenwhen that song came out, So I
remember their song. But there arekids that don't know this nigga from anything.
But are we there yet? Yeah, it's not it's not them.
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We're not getting younger they're not gettingyounger voters because that's not the block that
that's the block you want to get, right. Yeah, but they know
that that's that's that's a rap,that's a I mean, I mean that
the younger young young people. Butlike ice Cube may think, hey,
this interview, I might get someyounger people to don't know vote, No
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they do. Now, well here'sthe thing, when sad like they would
trumpet so they were for Trump.The younger voters are like those white boys
I was talking about who who listenedto old school hip hop but don't actually
support or like black people. Andwhen it comes to an election, would
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they vote Probably not, or theywill probably vote their party to put quote
make a stand. But this isdefinitely in the tent to get those people
to either vote for Trump or dowhatever it takes it just not vote for
Democrats. And I will say thesame, it's for as like I said
black dude who really like Kevin Samuelsand also pedal in another No, look,
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that's if you're if you're if you'retrying, if you're trying to get
these like Manisphere black dudes Like,Yeah, that's what they're aiming at absolutely,
because all of that anti woman shit, anti you know, diversity shit,
that that all goes together, rightbecause it's like, well, ice
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Q came up in the time wherelike machismo was like a big thing,
right, like just being like theuber you know, the uber male ideal
or whatever, right like that appealsto them. It appeals to the music
wasn't soft and and shit like thatthat appeals to them. Like that stuff
like that Manisphere stuff appeals to youngmen. To young men like you try
to get those guys at a youngage when your hormones are raising. You
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don't know shit, you can't getfull of come is what they say.
And you just can't, like,you don't you don't know what to think.
And then here comes this Here comesthis guy that you know, you
think is cool or whatever, andhe's telling you like, bitches ain't shit
but holes and tricks. Right,Like Nigga's been married for thirty one year
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flight. You know what I'm saying. You got married in nineteen ninety two.
He's had he's been married to thesame woman for thirty one Wait wait,
you're talking about all Right's Cube.Oh yeah, yeah. But that's
how they get the young people,yo. Like, that's how that's where
the that's where the intersection is alsotreating women like shit like its lyrics,
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but they ship right now. IAlso another thing is like the folks like
Way Home, they they never theynot. They never call out folks like
Tucker Carson for the stuff that they'vesaid. That's they never that. So
talk. So, Mike, goingback to what we said, having the
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dialogue are having having the conversations.They don't want to have the conversation either.
They don't they don't want to getinto it with talk Carlson about about
their own stances. So the onlytime I've ever seen the only time I've
ever seen Ice Cube go into itis when he went after Bill Maher for
when Bill Mark called himself a housenigga, house nigga, and he didn't
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I remember that episode. He cain'tgo that hard, He ain't go that
hard. He really didn't like butno, I mean it just but Bill
Maher brought him on for that,right, like, that's that was what
that was, right because and Ithink HBO made him do it. So
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And usually with folks like that whowon't who again won't keep that same energy
before folks like like Tevi Carlson,they will have the energy against one group
of people or mainly a certain groupof people, and that's usually black women
who who tell them they're being fuckingstupid. But look, go ahead,
oh go ahead, No I wasgonna say. I mean, it's it's
it's black women, it's it's liberalfolks who will call them out in whatever
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you know, gender like, it'sso much easier for them to kick down
on those people. It's way easier, right because they don't have money,
they don't have power, they don'thave influence. You're not gonna how hard
you're gonna kick Bill Maher. BillMaher is a multimillionaire and Bill Markin put
you on TV when you got anew album out, right, So how
hard are you're gonna really kick kickup at him? Even though he says
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a wild shit, right, Butsomebody on the internet or somebody who's that
you see as a lower station thanyou. You can kick at them all
day. So yeah, killing Mikeice Cube all those guys, they're gonna
have way more fucking fire for thosepeople because it's easier and no offense intellectually
when it comes to this type ofshit. They're not particularly deep thinkers,
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and so it's easier to just attack. It's just easier to attack all the
time. Well, what does thatsay about how they actually feel about the
communities that they claim to support,because community support mostly vote vote democratic and
liberal and progressive. I hope ittells people to stop listening to That's what
I hope that's what it tells you. Stop listening to that. No,
that's what tells you. It tellsyou they want you to they want to
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siphon you off. I was lookingat a comment on Instagram. Somebody says
something. It was some dumb postand someone says something about, like,
I've been trying to tell these blackpeople that you gotta yo, don't vote
Democrat. They don't care about you. And my life has been so much
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better because I voted Republican, becauseI'm trying to keep my money in this,
that and the other, and likelike we live in a society,
guys. I hate to do thatshit, yo, but like we do
like and we have to look outfor other people, yo. And this
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ain't looking out for other people.I don't know. You're not even looking
out for yourself. But like ifyou said, I'm glad I voted Republican,
Like are you married? Right?Like are you a married man?
Like what if you what if yourwife has a child? What if your
wife gets pregnant in a in ared state? Any empathy and and if
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she has and if she needs orwants but really needs an abortion due to
a medical emergency. There what right? Exactly, That's exactly what's going Like
what happens. What happens is thenyou voted Republican and they they so job.
I don't forget a story I readabout that for someone in Texas and
they voted for Governor Abbott and thenthey ran into the situation and they had
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to beg their Trump supporting family membersfor money, and they're family members were
very electant to give it to them. But she and she almost died.
Almost cruelty is the point. Ican't I know the tree that nigga right?
Yeah, like legs yeah, that'swhy. From the lick from the
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we were running in a rainstorm anda tree fell on him. Good,
that's hilarious. Much like his name. I know what you're gonna say,
don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. It's funny because
that nig like he passed the billwhere you can't give water to fucking construction
works. They can't take twenty minutewater bricks and like a couple of people
died like a couple of weeks agobecause of that ship. Yeah, thousand
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degrees outside in Texas. Hope anothertree hits right, but face, but
that would be fine. But youknow, the just but the idea of
these guys rallying around these sort ofyou know what I would argue a white
supremacist icons. It's just pathetic.I mean it really is, but I
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don't I really, I'm I amsad that it works on some people.
But like I saw the other day, right, what's what's the dude from
Florida? Like you know him Donald'sthe Conservative? Yeah, I forget his
name. My wife don't really fuckhim anymore. They like knew each other,
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right, Yeah, And like thisdude is a representative from Florida.
Right, he's a conservative black manand put him for like speaker the house
for like a week. Yeah yeah, of course, oh yeah he lost,
because of course he did. Theywere like, let's see what happens.
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See we like you anyway, ata boy, move out of the
way. But the he literally gota pat on the hit. Yeah,
they literally did. Look it up. Look it up. They patted this
nigga on their head in his lastname is Donald's. But yeah, it's
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a while, it's a will moment. But like he came out this week
and was like, well, youknow, we don't approve as a black
conservert. I don't approve of howthey're changing the education, you know,
requirements on black history in Florida.You know, I'm a Floridian, I'm
I'm a black conservert. I don'tappreciate it. Oh no, oh well,
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you know, apparently every nigga whowas every nigga who was in chains
was a great blacksmith by the endof it, Like apparently they're fucking obsessed
with that, right, But buthere's this guy complaining about it, and
I'm like, nigga, this isyour party. These are the people you
roll with. So it's like whenI hear Killer Mike, when I hear
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Ice Cube, you know, saddleup next to these guys will be easily
duped or easily used by these guys. Right. What I all I can
think is you're going to end upin this exact moment where you go,
whoa, whoa, whoa. I'mnot cool with that, But then we've
already given them our vote because welisten to your stupid ass. Look,
Killing Mike, I think you're anamazing rap, I really do. I
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think you're super talented. I'm notgonna listen to your ass when it comes
to politics. I'm just fucking not. I'm not gonna listen to I'm not
gonna listen to jay Z. I'mnot gonna listen to Eminem. I'm gonna
go read. That's what I'm gonnado. I'm not gonna listen to you
niggas, Like I'm not. Idon't give a fuck, make and leave
it there. I'm sorry. I'mjust I'm just seeing this photo of like
they really just like pat his headlike on the back, like like come
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on, So I like, comeon boy, like I'm just yes,
wow, And this nigga showed upto work the next day. He didn't
fist fight none of these dudes.Right, then, that's crazy. How
do you show like you you don'thave black friends, right, or like
you just you don't talk to anyother black people, right because you want
you want access in power more thanyou want to say, hey man,
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this is unacceptable. And again thereare contrariants. There are just people who
go everybody going left. I'm goingright because guess what, most people are
wrong about shit, So if Igo to the opposite direction, then I'll
probably be right. I'm a freethinker. And just in this, in
this series of this, the seriousnessof this is evident in are one of
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our last previous episodes about affirmative actionand how that guy, an Asian man
was used as a voteful idiot andmouthpiece for that's correct white conservative men.
And now affirmative action is right.It's not a game. Vote yeah,
and they never have an alternative.It's like, maybe you don't want to
vote for Republicans, but but then, okay, what's the alternative? Stop
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they say, stop voting Democrat?All right? Cool? Well, Terrence,
if you if you don't vote,that means whatever happens in the in
the result of the election doesn't impactme because I didn't vote. That's literally
the logic that a lot of thesepeople had. No Yah, they literally
say we'll get more power next time. Is that how you think fascism works?
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One plus one is nineteen? You'vedumb? Fuck? What are you
talking about? Cool? You're notvoting now, we don't have to think
about you and just kick you rightin the face as we move roll tanks
right through your town. How dumbare you, y'all? How fucking dumb
are you? That makes me somad? I can't. That just really
bothers me that an adult person wouldthink like that to say, don't vote
and somehow that gains you more power. That's literally the opposite of how it
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works. Jay, We're going toshow them our power by not using our
power. Protest is crazy. Thisis crazy. That's crazy. You'd have
a better chance of putting up anindependent candidate and putting all your power behind
that than not voting. What thefuck? We tried? And then and
but he keeps voting for democrats,you know, and try and keeps running
(38:50):
as a Democrat every four years orso. No, No, that ain't
gonna work. Nah, I'm notgonna work. I can't look. I
can't wait to watch. I can'twait to watch these same people back Cornell
West right in this failed campaign becausethey are deeply un serious, just like
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sadly he's become as well, deeplyfucking serious. And if you have the
problem with me saying that, Ifeel like you have not been paying attention
to what Cornell West has been saying. So I have so fuck off in
the comments gets right now, An, these folks ask for money. I'm
broken. I'm broke. Don't callhim give them any money. Look,
(39:38):
there's only one look I'll give you. I'll give you five hundred paces I
got I got you for five hundredpaces. Let's let's look at the conversion
right right now, better than ain'tfucking much? I got you? I
got you. No, you knowwhat, that's too much. That's twenty
nine dollars. Nah, fuck thatyou fit? You know what? Fifty
(40:02):
those that's three dollars. I gotyou for three bucks. Wow. No,
but it's just it's ridiculous, andit is this desire to try to
lead black people to slaughter, iswhat what you're trying to do. And
it's it's really said. When youwere talking about uh Donald's, Brian Donald's,
Brian Donald, Byron Donald's, Iwas like, you know, all
(40:29):
right, he's a republic I don't, I don't, I don't. I
know, I know black Republicans,I don't hate them all. But I
was like, all right, wellmaybe maybe. And then I kept looking
and I saw something popped up anhour ago. Uh So I clicked the
link. It's Fox News. Sorry, and he Bron de Santists kind of
(40:53):
takes a jab at him, right, and he says the article says the
Santists gave Donald's an ultimatum either sidewith what he refers to as the free
state of Florida. Okay, hesides with Vice President Kamala Harris and the
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liberal media outlets who have railed againstthe curriculum, claiming it teaches students that
slaves actually benefited from slavery. Quote. So at the end of the day,
you got to choose. Are yougoing to side with Kamala Harris?
He probably said, Kamala Harris andthe liberal media outlets, are you gonna
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side with the state of Florida.I think it's very clear these guys did
a good job on those standards.It wasn't anything that was politically motivated.
These are serious scholars, So don'tside with Kamala on that stand up for
your state. Again, there's anotherwhite guy I don't know, run to
Santus is white. This is anothernon black person who passes as white,
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literally pitting a black man against ablack one, like quite literally doing it.
And I'm curious. I'm curious asto what the outcome that I know
is going to be. Okay,thank you, What what this nigga is
(42:22):
gonna do? And he's gonna fallin line? That's right, basically what
he's saying. It's either you're eitherwith us or you're against us, right,
And like you're right, he's becauselike, why did you pick Kamala
Harris of like all the peeps,of all the people black woman. He
could have said by outspoken about thatwhole curriculous she should. I'm just saying,
(42:52):
though, like to pick her.It's so I think that the worst
part, one of the worst partsabout all this is that it's all so
predictable. It's right there, likeyou know, like Stevie wanted to concede
this ship without binoculars from three milesaway. Man, it's the same stupid
(43:15):
ass playbook that they're all doing.But it work. But but it for
some reason, for some reason,it works. It works for like,
yeah, it's a couple of knuckleheads, but it still works because it can't
happen to them, Jay, theyare the special unicorn black person whatever that's
going to these races as white people'sminds or other or an other conservatives minds,
(43:39):
like they think that they have aspecial one. They think that they're
the one. That's what it is. And then if you're a nigga,
what's the appeal for being a conservative? That's a wild that's a wild statement.
That's a wild sentence. I needto know. I don't. I
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don't know many black conservatives of blackRepublican I don't know. But what's the
appeal outside of like lower taxes?I don't know. It's trying to keep
my money if you're in if you'rein a certain tax bracket, it's money,
right, I know I know that, But but I mean, besides
that, like it's socially one hundredthousand dollars in under tax bracket. What's
(44:23):
not as like one of those blackpeople. It's not even I don't know
what part of it is that,but honestly, like because i've I've spoken
to these people, it's it's it'snot necessarily it's one. It's you know,
niggas made fun of me, sofuck them, right and and two
(44:44):
and two it's religion like it itis. It is if you are a
little more fundamentalist, you know,if you say things like if you say
things like I believe in those psychlike okay, but what what is that?
(45:06):
It's it's it's that, it's it'syou know, it's it's all social
until you get to a certain taxbrack and like we're not we're not that
different from white people, right likeespecially I mean, like I don't put
me in there's a lot of difference. Okay, there's a lot of differences.
(45:29):
There's a there's a there's a verythere's a very surly white man out
there right now. It's like,you know, ternces Terns and I are
exactly like like there was a whitedouble ganging for terrace. You know,
I'm sure so, but I don'tknow, man, I I lost my
point, but I just I mean, look, I'll pick up a little
(45:52):
bit from what you're saying, like, what is what is the appeal of
for a black person to be conservative? I mean, honestly, I think
the I was made fun of.That's a that's a really big one.
That it's weird. It's a reallybig one. It's super common. Nuts,
this is a super common like maybelook, maybe you grow up in
(46:14):
your life. Damn, I can'tgrow a beard. I guess I'll be
conservative. Like like that's another one, right, Like that's a top tier
one. And but Byron Donald,I thought like, look if you if
you see him walking down the street, you would never know that he was
conservative. Yeah, he got abeard. He breaking stereotypes like blade,
he looks like free away. Andthen you start talking to him like,
(46:36):
oh, I don't know what hesounds like. He sound like he Nope,
he don't sound he don't even soundlike a typical conservative black dude.
He sounds like he doesn't like podcast. All right, Relax, relax,
relax. He's got a regular ass, Like he doesn't put on that weird
(46:58):
ass like conservative boys everybody. Youknow, it's also weird. You know,
it's also weird. He's from Brooklyn, Yo, what all right?
Brooklyn? You take an elf ofthat god Jesus Christ, like that's that's
that's not okay, that's not okay. But look, I mean, look,
(47:21):
at the end of the day,I think we have to continuously call
out what is this obvious playbook oftrying to siphon black people off during an
election series. We all never hearfrom ice Cube on anything until this time
for somebody to run for president andhe can help fuck people over so that
he can save a couple of coinsat tax times that you never involved any
(47:46):
other part of the year for actualnever you will never hear anything from him
other ones. Also part of itis because ice Cube has a basketball league
that is like not doing as wellas he would like. So this is
partly why you see him, partlywhy you see that Big Three league or
whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah, he's I think he's doing pressed to
(48:09):
try and convince people that. Imean, it's a whole thing, But
I think that's part of it.But I don't know that that's the overlap.
I don't get like you're trying toget people to watch the Big Three
motherfuckers who have to go to aTwitter show for Tucker calls and ain't watching
(48:31):
the Big Three. I think Ican go out and say that so wild
take, but I'll allow you todo that on the show. Yeah.
I just I want people to stoplistening to these guys just because you like
their music or the art that theymake. That is not indicative of whether
(48:52):
they know what the fuck they're talkingabout when it comes two things as very
serious as your future in this inyou know, in the United State dates
as far as you know what happens, these are the same people who will
lead you to slaughter and you willlose your rights and it will never affect
them. Pay attention just because theperson is someone you like in another avenue.
(49:14):
Pay attention to what they say,not just affect that they're talking.
That is incredibly important. Like richpeople are genuinely pieces of shit across the
board they generally are. Just assumethat they are and then try to find
the exceptions. It's way easier todo that than it is to just believe
that they're not pieces of shit.Yeah, Like, how many times you're
(49:35):
gonna find out, like my favoritecelebrity is a fucking dirt bag? Yeah
no, kidden, like of course, Like, yeah, you find out,
you know, they're breaking up marriages, you know, because they pretended
to be Asian this week instead ofLatin or whatever. Right, isn't that
what she does and they break upmarriage? Is it's someone who wish just
(49:57):
not my type. Just sai sayon board in one other person. Whatever.
That's t R way of saying thatNigga's ugly. We'll say she's trying
to be a good person. Knockat off. All right, That is
it for this preview episode. We'llbe back next week for episode two forty
six. They clone Tyrone. Bythe way, you can watch it on
(50:19):
Netflix if you if you're not aware, all right, we'll see you guys
next time. See you bye.But yeah, yeah, yeah,
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