All Day and A Night (REVIEW): The Sins of the Father Cycle | Ep285

This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to discuss the 2020 film, All Day and A Night. The film follows a young man who committed a homicide and now has to deal with the repercussions of his action. The film stars Ashton Sanders, Jeffrey Wright, and Isaiah Jon, Kelly Jenrette, and Shakira Ja'nai Paye. Written and Directed by Joe Robert Cole.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have no I da mama lesson about the villain too, right, Now,
go find the last down before me change.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And let's wrap the chase on it. You know.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello and welcome to a brand new episode of Black
and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm here with
my co host. Hey, all right, guys, we are back.
This is episode two eighty five. All Day and a Night.
This is the twenty twenty film written and directed by
Joe Robert Cole, starring Ashton Sanders, Jeffrey Wright, Isaiah John Shakira,

(00:42):
Janey Pey, Regina Taylor, and Kelly Uh Jenrett.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Excuse me h.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
The film is basically kind of a Sense of the
Father kind of film. The logline here is a young
man who committed a homicide deals with the percussions of
his actions.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
This is on Netflix, by the way, if you if
you haven't watched it, I would recommend that you do.
It's again it's a sense of the Father sort of story.
Jeffrey Wright, who plays the main kid's dad, Uh, he
is locked up in prison for I don't know, wife
or however long and yeah, well he deserves it, he did,

(01:28):
and so he is sort of hopeful, we come to
find out, hopeful that his son will not follow in
his footsteps. But again, he's not really equipped to be
a good dad, just because his life is kind of
a mess and for obvious reasons as you watch the film,
and then of course jah or jah Kor, his son

(01:49):
played by Ashad Sanders, does in fact follow into the
exact same footsteps, but it's a little bit more nuanced
than that, and it's actually kind of an interesting ending,
uh to a too, by the way, So I'll give
my thoughts on it. I thought it was pretty good.
This movie was not on my radar at all. We
talked about this offline. This movie came out in twenty twenty,

(02:10):
and I had never heard anyone talk about this movie
at all, which is crazy because I think Ashton Sanders
and Jeffrey Wright, especially Jeffrey Wright, are both very good actors,
and just this got no play whatsoever, which is just curious.
But yeah, I think it's a pretty good I think
it's a pretty good movie. It's a little long. It

(02:31):
drags in me, Yeah, it drags it in some parts.
Like I would probably be okay with this being like
an hour and a half hour, forty five minutes, like
you could cut out some of the stuff and get
a much tighter script. But all in all, I thought
it was pretty good. The acting and the performances are good.
The story is good. It spends a lot of time.
It spends the entire film ping ponging through sort of

(02:53):
three different timelines, which are when Jai kr is a kid,
and when he is sort of an adult, and then
while he's in prison. Right, so it's the present. The
sort of the prison time and him as an adult
are very similar in the timeline, but they kind of

(03:15):
jumps around because the events that happen in the when
he's just an adult out out of jail, that's important, right,
those actions are It's.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Like it's like a week or so up until he
commits the crime that puts him in It's uh, it's
it's it's a little comforts hime to explain, but it
makes sense, Like you don't feel lost.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
None of you get it completely as he's watching it.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So, yeah, I enjoyed it. I thought it was good.
Does a very good job of jumping between these different
periods in time. You know, it doesn't. Yeah, this movie,
I like you. This movie. I never heard this movie.

(04:02):
I didn't even remember it when you, uh, when you said, yeah,
we gotta watch you gotta watch this movie, and I
forgot the name of it, like because it just totally
was not on my radar. Netflix doesn't promote things like
this unless it makes like, you know, a ton of
money or I get a ton of views. So I

(04:27):
would recommend that you see it. It is a good movie.
Ashton Sanders. Really, I mean, he's the star. He carries
the load and he's a really really good actor. And yeah,
I realized I've seen him and other stuff but I didn't,
most notably Moonlight. He played the teen version of the

(04:49):
main character in Moonlight, but he was also a Native
sun which you know he was. He was. He also
played Bobby br Helm and that Whitney Houston movie and
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I can see it. I haven't
seen that movie, but yeah, I see it. Uh. And

(05:11):
he played the Rizza in Bhutang in American Saga.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I've never watched it. Everyone says that's actually very good.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, everyone says that is good. I haven't watched it.
I think it's on Hulu. I might I might try to.
I might try to check it out. I mean, I
like Bu Tang as much as the next pert. Well
maybe not as much as the next person, but but
I like Wu Tang. Jeffrey Wright is good and everything.
You know, no notes yahya abdul Mateen part two is right.

(05:42):
I forgot he was in this. Sorry, yeah, that's but
that's a testament to like how little he has used
in this movie. He's fine. It just wasn't you know.
It feels like a role anybody could have done. But
you know, I'm happy to see the guy get work.
I like him as an actor. The story a great actor.
So yeah, yeah, that's a waste to do. Yeah, the

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story is one of those It's one of the good
old fashioned nineties message movies, you know what I mean,
like Boys in the Hood and you know, Don't be
a Menace and and that President, like all that stuff
that came out in the nineties. I think you mean
menace to society. Don't society? What did I say, don't

(06:26):
be a menace? Is like this, don't be a menace? Yeah, no,
not to spoof, Not to spoof this movie. No it's not. Yeah,
it's the lesson is don't watch that movie. Yeah, it's
a it's a message movie. And it's something that like,
you know, you sit a young person down and you know,

(06:48):
you hope that that it scares them straight, just like
Boys and a scared scared me straight.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I was like, you know what message received?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Got it? But I do think it's effective, you know,
and as a movie that deals with to the sins
of the father being passed on to the sins of
the son, or to being passed on to the son,

(07:18):
and you know, the cycles of generational trauma, and like
where does it end? Right, Like I've I've made it
a point to end whatever. My dad's a good dad,
but like you know, should happens, we all got bull right,

(07:39):
And and I made it a point to say, you
know what, not gonna not going to do this right,
Like I'm a find a different way to discipline my
son's right, And and that is for.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Ten years from now, throwing your son's video game onto
the floor.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, spiking it, right. They don't make them like the
Nintenal sixty four. They don't make them like they used to.
So if I'll spike it, it's done. Yeah, that's your right.
But no, man, I think this is a movie that
that you know, dad's should watch and maybe it'll help

(08:20):
you get through you know, or help you understand certain things. Yeah,
and you know, I this movie has a place and
this movie says something and I and I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, it's interesting because the movie does do something that
I think is lacking in a lot of sort of
message movies. And this is gonna sound like a really
weird point, but it humanizes a villain of sorts where

(08:55):
you go, oh, okay, like I don't agree with what
you did, but I get it, you know what I mean.
Like a lot of times the message movies are just
like these people are human beings and they go through shit,
and that's like, and that's a totally fine way to
do it, right, Like, actually, I think that's probably the
most effective. But this movie does that. But it also

(09:15):
shows you why you would do the dirty shit that
this character does, where you actually go like, I wouldn't
have done it, but I can't be that mad at you,
like maybe be a better with your aim, but like
I can't be that mad at you about it, because

(09:36):
like when you see the sort of residual effects of
that situation, you go, yeah, okay, I understand, And so
that that I thought was kind of a little unique
kind of twist on this sort of common story. But yeah,
I thought everybody did a pretty good job in this.
It was good, and it's it's a lot more brutal
than I was expecting to. Like a lot of people
get shot and they don't really they don't really like

(09:59):
shy away from it either. It's like I got shot
in the head, got it?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, the Saha PG. Thirteen violence now is pretty graphic,
but you know, you gotta hit that message. The message
gotta stick.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Niggas get shot every day, be like I literally that's
what happens in this movie.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And sort of also.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
The the normalization of violence is I actually, this is
me getting fucking old. I actually found it really repulsive,
like and I and not in a like I'm offended
of the filmmaking, Like I'm offended at the concept of
like that people do things like that. And that's just

(10:45):
that's me getting old. I think I was just like, hey,
young man, don't do that. Like.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's also because it's also because it's set in it's
set in reality, right, like I can watch horror movie.
I can watch horror movies all day, right exactly that
stuff is right, That stuff is fake, right, like that
stuff's not going to happen, but this very likely could
happen Tomolo, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, And it's just there. There's just a number
of moments where I was just like, I don't like
how people are behaving in this movie, and it's it's
not like this feels unrealistic. It feels too realistic. And
I'm just like, yeah, because you know that there are
people who wake up every day in these situations and
respond in these ways, and you're just like like, there,

(11:31):
there's just a there's a a realness to that that
as I as I've gotten older, I'm just like, I don't,
I don't care for that. Could we all just hug
it out? Like is that a possibility?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Please? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, I'm becoming an even larger pussy in my old dish.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Put that kid in the head with a rock. Why
don't do that?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
You should be on suspension. Yeah, it's just crazy. As
you get older, it's just like certain things are just
like that's I don't. I don't care for this behavior
at all. Please stop doing that?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
All right?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
So the film opens up. Actually I don't I don't
have the film up. But the movie starts with sort
of an aspiring rapper, Uh so JAHI cor.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Let me, let me, let me help you out. It
takes place in Oakland, and we see Ja Cour main
character played by Ashton Sanders, and he's he is driving
up to a house that is and he's driving up
with the lights out, his headlights off, and we cut
to this guy named Malcolm getting home from wherever and uh,

(12:43):
you know, he's he's he greets his girl, his wife
or whatever, and you know, he trying to make something happen, right,
try and go upstairs. His wife makes something happen. All right,
all right, young tells tells his door to go to bed,
and a little too it's a little too vo yeah,
like your kid's there, like I'm gonna tear that up,

(13:05):
all right, all right, all right, your daughter's there, bro,
Like you got me? Like all right, relaxed. So he
about to you know, he trying to make something happen.
So they all go into uh this one room it
turned light on and oh, ship Jakor is there and

(13:28):
he's got guns of kimbo pointed at to get the
dude Malcolm and his girl and the daughter is sitting
right there, and Jacour hesitates for a moment, and then
he asks Malcolm do you remember me? And Malcolm's like yeah, bro,
and we people and and Ur is like nah, and

(13:50):
then just busts off and he murders. He murders Malcolm,
he murders the wife, and the little girl is uh
there to witness it. Smash cut to uh uh this
nigga on trial? Yeah, and no, this nigga being sentenced,

(14:10):
Like yeah, not even on trial being sentenced right, because
like you you did that ship, you did that shit.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Guilty as fun, right, and by the way, nobody knows
why he did it, right like that, That's that's the
whole point of Like the larger part of the story is,
so why did you just throw your life away just
murdering these two people? Again, get your aim a little
bit better. That woman didn't do anything. You didn't need

(14:38):
to kill her. It's kind of fucked up. Also, don't
kill people in front of kids, Like the guy understand
the game is the game. I'm you know, I get
all that come into the other room.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean, look, I'm glad you didn't kill a kid.
I was like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm just a kid. Wow, Like that clip is yeah,
I thought at first he was gonna kill the kid.
I was like, come on, man, that's that's like I
don't want to watch this movie that that character is
irredeemable at that point.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
But that's the thing, you know, like that this is
a This is an incredibly provocative way to start a movie,
and like, this is your main character and he seemingly
comes in and just murders these people for no reason.
Now you find out why. But you know, normally our
main character is not you know, our main character does

(15:28):
something like this for the reasons that he does it
at the end of the movie. But but this is
a is a I appreciate the way the movie started.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, no, it it starts with a bang, right because
you're like, it puts itself in a precarious situation where
then they have to win.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
The audience over with this guy.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yes, which, by the way, that's a brave move. The
writer director of this Joe Robert Cole, also co wrote
both Black Panther movies, so it's not like he's not
used to like interesting ways of telling stories and stuff
like that. To put yourself in a situation where you.
You're fighting to get the audience on your side the

(16:10):
entire movie. That's that's a that's a tough move like that.
It's not necessary, but all because at the end of
the movie you'd be like, fuck that guy, like fuck him.
Oh sad story, fuck you man. But in the end
you're like, it's kind of a sad story.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
You got me dog, like you know what you won
me over?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Thank you very much. You shouldn't have killed a woman.
Yeah I don't. I don't know if you won me over,
but I understand, like I you know, I I feel
bad for judging you, but I get partially partially, yeah, partially,
you don't.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
You don't get off on that ship.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
So if you, if you, if you, if you all
haven't noticed. Ja and I aren't registered nurses, we aren't
are ends, we aren't real nice No.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, I'm not no, not now. I ain't never been
to jail.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's not a flex for me.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
They're right, I haven't, and I'm more than okay with that.
I don't want to go. I'm I'm way too pretty
for that. Um and I got small arms. I can't
fight get out of here. So smash cut to kids on
the on the on the school yard. Well by the way,

(17:36):
when he's when he's on on trial of being sentenced,
they ask if anybody who is related to the victims
wants to say something, and this woman comes up. She's
the wife that was killed or the woman that was killed.
It's her mother and she's like, Yeah, this guy sitting
up there with no remorse or anything, and he basically

(17:59):
took everything for me my daughter. Yeah, I need the
judge to never let this animal out of prison ever again.
It's like, I mean, I think she's good. I think
she went a little easy. I gotta tell you because look,
you and I have discussed this on the show. Uh,
there is a tacit agreement that if someone ever did

(18:20):
anything to my family and I was in a courtroom
and I could and I was anywhere near them, I
just need you.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
To run block against the bailiff. Becau.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I'm gonna try to break that nigga's neck right there.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I'm trying to kill right there. I gotta set the pick.
All I ask.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's all like, you ain't gotta throw yourself front of
a bullet. I ain't asking all that. Look, you probably
gonna go to jail of open night like whatever. Like me, brother,
this is cool. I'm gonna try to knock his fucking
teeth out of his head. Dude, don't let me get
to you, like it.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Just don't let me get to you.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Because like you and handcuffs and so this is not
going to be a fair fight.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And he shouldn't be because I like those.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Tables are like either metal or like very old school.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Would guess whose face is going into it? Yours? Oh stop,
you're this is not appropriate.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
It feels pretty appropriate.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like yo, I just that woman was way nicer than me.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I'd be like, oh yeah, things I have to say,
and I'd be just like inching slowly over and I
just make a break for you.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Fuck that.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
So look, you know, if you find out Jay got arrested,
just know that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like that's the reason if the show was gone for
for a while and we don't tell you why, that's it.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Like I'll tell Look, I'll tell the story on the
next preview episode, like no, big, I regret and the
judge like, do you regret it? I regret nothing. I
regret I regret nothing, but yo, temporary insanity.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
So yeah, this one a bunch of people and then
a bunch of people would be like, well, well, why
why did you do that? Why why wouldn't she Why
they would treat you like they treat that Asian woman
in centers, Like well, I mean what what? What? Why
would you do? Huh? What?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Like yeah, y'all don't like look, you want to interview me.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
You want me to tell you? Oh God, tell you
what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Look, don't go with me, be telling your crimes. I
already served my night in jail. I'm fine. So so
then after he is sentenced to life in prison along
with his dad, who's also in the same prison for
life smash cut, we see him, uh, we see him

(20:31):
in jail. He's kind of walking around the yard and look,
I gotta tell you, jail seems terrifying to me.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It just does.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I feel like like I would be so afraid I
would get shanked all the time. Like I don't need
those problems, Joe, Like I just I just don't. I
just don't need those problems. It feels like a really
bad idea.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, no, thanks, Yeah, I don't see the appeal.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
So no, I I don't and I know, like people
have this weird thing of like I guess a rite
a passage. Look, man, people have to serve the time.
And look, I'm not denegrating anybody's been to jail. Get
your life together. I think that's great. Like if you
go and then you get your life together whatever, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I just don't want to go, That's all I'm saying.
I ain't judge nobody in there. I just don't want
to go, Like, no thanks. So that's a hard line
for me. We see at a certain point here we
smash cut back to thirteen years earlier where you see
Jai Kor or Jakor on the playground and his kid's

(21:36):
like fucking with him and he tries to like fight back,
and he's a lot smaller than that kid. That kid
literally does a wwe body slam.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah yo, Like what the fuck? Like he like it's
like Hogan slamm and Andre but the other way.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Right, this does not seem like a fair fight at all.
But that's just kind of a stablishes Jaquor just being
kind of kind of bullied, right like he was he's
all I mean, even in presid day he's a small guy, right,
He's like, a you know, pretty thin guy. It's just
you know, it is what it is. So while he

(22:15):
after he gets beaten out.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm looking for I'm not looking forward to this, by
the way, because somebody gonna pick on my son, and yeah,
I'm not I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do what
uh j D does to my son, but I might
do it to the kid like can't I can't, you
know I can't. Yeah, bullying is not cool, man, Believe

(22:39):
I'm not looking forward to I'm not looking forward to
the to the day he comes home and says he
got beat up by a bully.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Like, uh, well, you just just do what my dad did.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I didn't get.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I didn't get I didn't get beat up for it.
He was like, you see that right there. You see
what's behind that radiator? I was like yeah. He was like,
that's a two by four. If somebody hits you, you
come into how and you get that and you fucking
hit them with it. I was like that seems like
sound advice. And then smash cut to like a week later,
the kid down the street was was a bully and
he bullied me. I walked right in the house and

(23:11):
I got that two by four. My mom's like, you
cannot take that outside. I was like, what I was
told that this was an option for me. She was like,
that is that is not a good idea. But I
was like, I was ready. I was gonna go take
that ship outside and hit him right in the fucking.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Hit him with it, right, like my dad. Right, I
understand it. At the same time, like, you can't teach
your kids that do ship like that? Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Like you can't teach and you're not allowed to hit
small children.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's no. He gotta fight his own battles.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
But I mean, well, if somebody sees them, I if
nobody say who you are, I'm just trip.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Just triple. Yeah, I'll triple. I don't kids, Well, relax,
that's not a command.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, relaxed, Donald, there's no list.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
So he while he is in the principal's office after
getting fucking body slam, what happened to the other kid?
He meets, Uh, he meets this other kid who's also
like in the principal's office.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Uh, I forget that kid's name. That's the kid in
the wheelchair later.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Right, Yeah, I forget I forget how.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Lamark Lamark, Well, what a mark assbuster.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I guess people would say they probably that's probably what
they made fun of him. His name, it's a weird name.
So yeah, he meets Lamark. And so basically Lamark is like, hey, man, like,
I'm trying to do everything right to kind of get
out of this situation. I'm gonna do well in school,
I'm gonna go into the army. I'm gonna like I'm

(24:47):
getting out of the hood. And that's that's sort of
the the point of that character and doesn't necessarily work
out well for him, but you know, it is.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
What it is. Uh, he's the Ricky of the group.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, he is somehow dies even more tragically actually,
I mean not that that wasn't incredibly tragic. And boys,
and hut can you take over because for some reason
my internet is like an asshole?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, he means Lamark Lamark is like you said, he's
he's you know, I got big dreams, guys, I'm wide
eyed and I'm the I'm a I'm a great guy,
and I'm gonna go to the army and make it
out this, that and the other. Right, And as they're
walking home and when he gets when when uh gets home,

(25:37):
he his dad comes and sees him and is like
a mark ass buster or whatever. Y'all brothers saying Oakland
the one. The voiceover of adult Jaquor is like, yeah,
they didn't think they thought they thought my dad too

(26:00):
yellow for him to be my real father. But but
now he acted like he showed him how black he was,
and he was is just a it's a heroin statement.
Uh yeah, that follows.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Right, like that being black is just just being violent
and abusive and beating and beating.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
The ship out of your kid. Yeah he he, He's like,
I'm going to teach you a lesson. You don't let
somebody take advantage of you. You don't let somebody beat
you up. And in order to teach you that lesson,
I'm gonna beat the ship out of you.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
And yeah, hm, look, I know, I know it's I
know it's cool. I I know that people think that
this is an intelligent thing to say. Beating your kids
is dumb and when you do it, you're dumb.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I know, Black people get really fucking mad when you
say that.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I was fine. You didn't need to get beat on.
You didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
You didn't and when people make the reverse argument of
well look at why kids they don't get beat and
they be acting crazy, that's a poor argument. That's a
very very poor argument. We don't have to beat our
children into submission. It's a horrible way to act. It
teaches black children very early that violence is the way
to solve problems. It's not good. So anybody who makes

(27:29):
the argument that sometimes you just gotta be beat kids,
you're wrong. You're one hundred percent wrong. Also, it fox
with kids intelligence. I don't know if people know that
that's true.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
It makes you dumb. Its quite literally makes you dumb.
And yeah, I you know I was disciplined, right, Yeah,
it's a bad idea, and and it it affected my
relationship with my father to this day, like right, like

(28:01):
it it just did. And I don't please don't hit
your children, please don't, like there's another way to do it. Yeah,
just just I guarantee you take something away from a kid,
they're going to be just as a yo. That's way worse.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
So like in beating a beating a kid like you know,
with a belt with your hand or whatever, or well
I use an open hand, I'll use a closed fist.
Still bad. Okay, still bad.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
But and look, I get it.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I have a child.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Sometimes you want to spect the shit out of a kid.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I understand like you do because you're just like, yo,
I'm at my wits end, and I feel like that's
my that's my help. It doesn't actually like it just
doesn't help. It lowers children's intelligence. That that is that
is like a scientific fact. Okay, that's not just an opinion.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And again, it teaches kids that violence is the way
in which you solve disagreements. Why do you want to
send your sons and your daughters out into the world
to think that if you have daughters that they can
like beat on their partners or be beaten on by
their partners right when they have a disagreement or they're angry.
And why do you want to send your sons into

(29:21):
the world to beat on their partners or be beaten
on by their partners. This is a bad idea, Like,
and I hate all of the dumb fuck arguments. We
used to have a Facebook page, like a fan page,
and this topic came out once and people are just
like no, no, And I'm like, you're literally just defending
beating small children, Like that's a very weird thing, right,

(29:45):
you are, like, I'm not weird, You're being weird, right,
And it's funny because if you and this is this
is something I was I was watching the other day.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
They were talking about this.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
The history of corporal po on children is a very
European thing.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, guess what, that's what slave masters did, guys like that.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like that's but they also beat on their own kids too.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Right, Like that's like that's where this stuff comes from.
And because because because what do you because what do
you do to animals? Right, It's it's the same thing,
and it just doesn't Yeah, this is very Yeah, please
don't do it, man, Please don't do it, because as

(30:35):
we see in the very next scene he says he says,
niggas the thing twice before they step to you. Right.
And then we have the very next day Jaquor Polina
j and uh. He got a rock and he found
the bully that took his little John Cena doll or

(30:56):
whatever like you can't see me, damn, and then hit
him in the back of the head with a rock.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yo. Yeah, the difference between me and this kid are tremendous.
I would have hit the kid with the two by
four in the face, like I'm not, I'm not sneaking up.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
He's bigger than me.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
He probably caught that shit and beat the ship out
of me, if I'm being honest. But yeah, he hit
that kid in the back of the head with a rock.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You know, that's not cool.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
And then they they proceeded to stamp this kid like
he hit him. He hit him in the back of
the head with the rock, And at that moment he realizes, like, yo,
I'm a kid, Like I'm he's kind of traumatized by like,
oh ship. And then his other friends kicked the ship
out of the kid. He doesn't even do any of
the other you know, other like stomping or whatever. So
and then the good the good kid Lamark actually sees

(31:47):
this and was like, I'm out, which is the right
course of action.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
By the way, Yeah, I had I had a friend
like that who was just like, maybe, you know, maybe
you shouldn't be hanging out with this kid, right, somebody
I grew up with. Yeah, and you know, we just
kind of grew apart, and yeah, man, it'd be like
that sometimes. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, No, I actually I actually had a friend very
similar to that. Uh like uh sort of early middle school.
And at a certain point my mom is like, nah,
like you ain't hanging out, yeah, like he not, and
like that dude is like I don't know where he
is now, but he was into stealing cars and all
sorts of other shit.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
My mom was like, don't you ever get in a
car with him? Like no, because if he stole a
car and you in the car, guests who are going
to jail? Both of y'all going to jail. I was like,
you know what, that's a good ass point. Yeah, coming
in loud and clear. Mom, not trying to go to jail.
I'm not trying to go to Julie.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
What the fuck? No, So if you got look.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
If your kids got friends like that, may give him
that advice, because shit like that, I get your kid
fucked up, even if they didn't do it either, Like.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, just be just be just be be present. Yeah,
be visually, you have to be be present, be visually.
I look, my son, he gotta he got a friend.
It seems like the sweetest kid in the world. Right,
all of a sudden, he goes over and tells my
son a secret, and I see it. I was like,
I said, come here, come here, mass, Well, what do

(33:23):
you say to you? And thankfully I have a decent
relationship with my six year old. Kind of hard to
not uh, and he said he said like some swear
word or some ship, right, And he was like what
the fuck right, And just like all right, maybe we
shouldn't be hanging out with this kid. We gotta like
like we gotta, we gotta, we gotta watch this stuff.

(33:46):
But you gotta be like hyper vigilant, man, because like
I don't want my like seeing stuff like this. It
still affects me, man, these message movies still all I
can think of.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
All I can think of as I'm watching this is
I'm so glad that one even when I lived in
the States, I did not live in an area like
this to have to raise kids.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And like now I'm like, right.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, we're very fortunate, absolutely, And then now I'm like
I don't live around things like this, right, So like
that's kind of the nice thing, but like that's not
like this is not the only bad version that kids
can grow up in. You can also grow up around
not that we're rich at all, but like you can
you can grow up around a bunch of like kind

(34:31):
of rich kids and they're like heavy into drugs and
drinking and fucking wild party type of shit. I'm like, nope, no, right,
that's even that's it's it's it can be worse.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Opposite, Yeah, it can be worse. It's the it's just
the it's just the opposite side of that coin, right,
Like if you're completely desperate and you and you and
you you do things right, destructive things, or you can
be incredibly affluent and just get bored and do destructive right.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
And my my daughter, my daughter is very much a
kid who wants to fit in right, like she she goes.
She's kind of a people pleaser in that way, right,
And so that's like, that's my fear is that you
end up running with a crew of people who do
a lot of wild shit. And then she's like, yeah,
I'll do these things. And I'm like, because it look,

(35:19):
if your black ass father got to go to some
fucking house in Mexico because there's a crazy party, I'm
gonna start throwing niggas out the front door, Like just understand, Like, look,
Baltimore's coming to Mexico. Because I might act like an asshole,
like it just is what it is, and I don't
want to do that. So you got to give your
kid those fucking tools to be like, I'm not doing that,
get the fuck.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Out of here.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
But a lot of a lot of parents don't, and
they don't prepare their kids for that shit either. They
just think, well, they're not shooting each other in the ghetto,
so everything else is fine. Nope, no, Right, So there's
there definitely both sides of that coin.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
You have to be careful either way.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
But look, man, somebody trying to bully your son, you know,
just give me a call. I'll come out there, asshole
like uh like getting fucking bad boys?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Uh too or whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
He's like, my asshole, who kids, Let's.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Get those little kids fucked.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
So after we see the the rock to the back
of the head school fight and you got, uh was it?
T Q?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Is that his name?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, he's the one doing all the kicking, right, He's
he's standing there for his boy, but it's mostly just
because he's like he's got a violent streak and like
he just kind of wants to hurt people. They kind
of smash cut to TQ and.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Jaquor.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
This is fucking Robin niggers. And this is like thirteen
months before we see the murder in the beginning, right.
So TQ is like talking ship to the one dude,
Uh takes his chain, you know, Jaquor just like takes
the guys like his his bracelet and his chain and ship.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
It's the money.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
And the other guy was like, yeah, I'm you know,
he says to t Q. Yeah, nigga'mnna se you later.
I'm gonna see you later. I feel like you shouldn't
be talking ship, man. That feels like a bad idea.
These guy's got you down on the ground on your knees.
He's got a gun to you.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I ain't saying ship. I ain't saying ship. Well, you
can still be dignified in defeat, yo.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I'm not talking ship.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Looks like they make good decisions. These niggas are robbing
you in daylight, like, well, I'm gonna see you later.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Like, think it, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
You don't have to vocalize it, just think it.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
That's fine. Like I'm okay with you getting your revenge.
Don't say the ship out loud. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, self preservation, come on, man, And so uh t
Q didn't didn't take too kindly to to back talk
to being sessed, and so he proceeds to pistol whip
this guy like a lot, and then to the point
where they got passes out, and then he fucking just

(38:01):
kicks him in the chest, which is Chuck supposed to
him doing the same thing to that kid. Uh literally
a few scenes the last scene.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
And this this is a scene where I'm like, I
don't like.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
This type of behavior.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
This feels wrong to me, Like it just like I
just don't. It's just it's just violence for violence sake.
And again I'm not criticizing the filmmaking. I'm saying, like
in life, this type of.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Ship, right, it's too real. It's too real it is.
I'm like, ah, this is like pistol people, there's like
blood splattering. I'm like, oh, oh right, I'd.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Like to watch something more reasonable, like hostile or you know, like.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I mean, something I can deal with.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
So then later on that day or or what have you.
I guess it's that day. They're like they're in the
studio because again Jaquor is like trying to be an
aspiring rapper. Their buddy Lamark is there. He's in a
wheelchair now, and it's because he got injured in the army, right,
so he's just gonna be in a wheelchair just temporarily.

(39:11):
But he's you know, he's back home from overseas or whatever, right,
And it's Lamark Dequor and and TQ, and then you know,
they's just like shooting the shit or whatever. And you know,
Lamark is like, yeah, you know, your life's pretty good whatever,
you know, like military type of shit. And tq's like, man,

(39:33):
you need to be getting in on this, like on
this money, Like tell me you don't want this shit.
And he just like pulls out like the chain they
stole and and all this cash and everything else, right,
and so everything is you know, like look at all
this money I got. Look how look how great my
life is. I just beat the living piss out of
people in order to get it, which is definitely a
thing you shouldn't do. So then TQ goes downstairs. He

(39:55):
needs to talk to some people to show up a guy. Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
These two dudes.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
One is kind of a music industry guy and the
other guy is just some guy named Malcolm.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
So and it's not a spoiler.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Malcolm is the guy that he shoots and kills in
the beginning, right, so this is obviously you know rewinding
in ton Look this other guy, this music industry guy.
I don't care for that guy.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I was really as a asshole man.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I was worried for his death quite literally was. I
was like, who's going to kill him? Why is it
taking someone?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, it all worked out, it did, but it took
a while to get that man.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, I really I was like, I really don't like
this nigga. They were really working over time to be
like do you hate him?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Not yet?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
All right, well fucking let's double down.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Give me did our main character leave a bad taste
in your mouth? Here's a worse one? Yeah, all right, goddamn,
here's a worse one. And the main character killed two.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
People, so right right this, they ain't killed nobody yet,
Like he adn't done anything.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
He's just showing up. You're like, I hate this guy.
Like this guy fucking sucks.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
So we smash cut to to jacor in in prison again,
and this one dude approaches him and he's like, hey, man,
like you know, like we look it out for you,
you know, type of shit. This is who this is
who this is like trying to give him the the
the you know, like sort of the lay of the
land type of shit, right, and cour is just like

(41:31):
mm hmm, like I'm not really fucking talking to you,
and which makes sense because I wouldn't trust anybody in
jail either.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, I'd be like, can I join the Muslim brotherhood
or whatever? Like cool? Can I just not get murdered?
Like that's all I want to do? And then I
will immediately renounce all religion the second I get out,
which is unfortunate. So so while they're walking in line
back into prison, this dude was just like just walked down,

(42:02):
punched him right in his face and was like walking
into the yard fish. I was like, oh that ain't
that ain't right, And luckily Jeffrey Wright steps in. He's like, Yo,
he's just trying to bait you, like don't don't do that, like,
don't don't try to fight that guy, which I thought, like,
isn't jail rules, Like you gotta like fuck somebody up,

(42:23):
so you know, like some people everybody knows like you
ain't to be fucked with, Like you just gonna let
this dude fucking style on.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
You, like get me live, don't get me lined. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I just thought it was I mean, I'm not trying
to I'm not trying to tell people how to operate
in jail.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I don't fucking know. I've seen oz That's all I know.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Okay, but I thought, when you go in jail, somebody
fucked with you, got you gotta fuck that person up
so everybody knows you're not bitch. But apparently like you
just let this think of punching in the mouth and
just keep going.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Well, you know, he he he was stopped by his dad, right,
because like this is where JD is given like fatherly
advice to his son at at the last possible moment
that it would be effective. Don't end up like me, nigga.
I'm many many with you. But but yeah, it's it's

(43:21):
this is where Jeffrey Wright is is you know, playing
the dad role. Uh, this is where Jeffrey Wright kind
of plays the dad role in the movie. But it's
also juxtaposed to flashbacks of a year before where he was,
you know, a cocad. Yeah, which is very it's very

(43:42):
it's very interesting to see this character, you know, be
an ice cube stereotype and then be this like like
bad to be an to be an ice cube stereotype
from his n w A to his are we there
yet days?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Like that the meme of like him holding the AK
forty seven and the other he's holding like the fishing line,
like yeah, hilarious. We we smash cut to a funeral,
which I assume is just of one of the kind
of the guys in this you know, array of homeboys,

(44:26):
like this gang type of ship that they that they
roll in this crew we see yeah yah abdulah Matine.
The second as he is playing Stunner is that his name, yeah,
And he just goes up to this to the mom
I I assume of this person who has been killed,
and he was like, you know, this is our gift

(44:49):
to you whatever. And it's just like a shoe box
full of cash.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Which you know, cool, thanks rather have my son, but
you know she took the money.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Helps, No, I understand it, like nigga, you probably a
reason they are dead, but thanks. So Stunner comes up
to up to t Q and and Jaquor is not
like involved in any of this right, Like he's not
involved in his crew at all, but tq is and

(45:24):
Stunner is like, yeah, do you know who is behind
this or whatever? Yeah, this is this dude named Malcolm.
We gotta put we gotta put that nigga on a
T shirt, which is a dope way of saying I'm
gonna kill somebody. By the way, like that's pretty good.
Right in the hood, that's what they do, like gett
get your face.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
On T shirt.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
I got a couple of hood cousins. I went to
a funeral once and they had like the uncle or
whatever on the T shirt. And I was like, that
was my first experience with that. I was like, oh, okay,
that's that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I mean, we expressed yourself how you expressed yourself. Like
it's not a judgment. It was just not a thing
I I was used to. Yeah, but I was like, okay,
all right, today I learned. So we see we see
Jack Corr. He comes out of this Uh he's at
this one chick's house. Uh, because she's blowing him. I mean,

(46:20):
I get it. She's super fun too, by the ways.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
As a side.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Note, and he's like, yeah, you know, how fuck with
you girl. By the way, he has a girlfriend, just
so just over Claire like there's just some some chick
on the side. He was like, yeah, you know, how
fuck with you? Oh yeah, no worries. And this woman
does something that I was like, see does this is
how niggas gets shot? Like she's on the balcony and

(46:47):
he Jack cor is like walking down to the car
where that dude that we said we hate his name
is t Rex.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I guess he's a rapper.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
He's like he's sitting in there, he's sitting in the
truck and she's like, oh, hey, t Rex, how you doing.
And he's like hey girl, and she's like we are
you gonna let me be on one of your tracks
or whatever for singing? And he's like, yeah, come down
the studio, stay thick girl. I'd be like all right,
you only I gotta punch you in your mouth, like
what the fuck are we doing? Like now, But it's
just like his side check.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
So I guess Jakoor is like he's bothered by it,
but like not that bothered by it. And then t
Rex does something that I think is really reprehensible. He's like, yeah,
that's a that's a girl and he's like nah, like
I fuck with her like, you know, like again he's
giving me a blowy, like it's not my girlfriend. He's like, nah,

(47:35):
I'm you know, I'm you know, I mess with this
other girl ya YadA YadA around the corner or whatever.
And he's like, oh, she hang out with some Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
He's like, oh that's our people or whatever. He's like yeah,
he was like, yeah, that's crazy. Dog. I used to
fuck her. Thanks what Like what the fuck's just me?
Not me my friends.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I'm like you all right, like choke you out in
this fucking GMC truck, Like what the fuck are we
talking about right now?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And this makes a tremendous amount of disrespect, yo, It's
just a tremendous amount of disrespect. Like we all got
pasts right yo, Like what are you doing? Like, nigga,
what the fuck? Like fuck you nig Like get the
fuck out of here, man, Yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah, what's the last thing? Yeah yeah, me, me and
the crew used to do her. Thanks thanks, Bell BIV.
Devote you fucking piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Like what the fuck? Which is fucked up?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Just a side note, Hey, don't record you your your casual.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Sacks with people. Not a good idea.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
This is not a good idea unless you're trying to
make money on it. Don't do that. Spoilers for the
future of this movie, not of me. So yeah, he
says that ship and he's like, ah, you're fucking out
my high nigga. You crazy though, It's like, yeah, I'm crazy. Yeah,
I'm just I'm just playing around m hm. And so yeah,

(49:07):
they drive off and again I've been pissed. So we
we get sort of the backstory of how Chante and
Jacour met. Uh she's adorable, she's a super super cute girl. Yeah,
to try to kill you know, uh, a little fucking
Rick Ross over there the function.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Moment, Yeah, tells him. She tells him that she is pregnant,
and she was like, I was scared. I'm scared to
tell you. Was like, just tell me what it is, right,
because like he does that thing that people do, whereas like, oh,

(49:48):
I guess something to tell you what I think you
might be mad. Just tell me, Just tell me. I
don't like that, Just tell me, Just tell me.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Stop front loading my my emotions.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Like that's like right, Like I don't like surprises. Just
say it. I'm not gonna be mad, Like whatever, you
got to tell me. I'm not gonna be mad at you.
I might be like, yeah, I might be like I
don't care.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I'm not gonna be like I'm gonna fly off the
handle and just start fucking swinging, Like.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
It's like, what the fuck is going on? Just tell me?
And she's like, I'm pregnant and he's like, awesome, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
What proper way to respond to that? Not said that's
that's a wall statement.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Don't do Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I mean he's like, I'll take care of that ship.
Like cool, great, that's that's exactly what you're supposed to do.
But he's actually legitimately excited about it.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Good. You should be a brief We had a brief
scene with Jaquor going over to Lamark's house. I think
this is where he says he's going he's getting He's
getting like surgery or something done to help him, uh
with his injury. That hed gott an armie or something

(51:12):
like that. Yeah, and and he tells him that, you know,
he tells me he's gonna be a dad, right, And
we cut back to prison real quick, and uh, he's
on the phone with Chante and she wants to come
see him, and she wants to bring the baby, and
he's like, no, no, don't do that. I don't want to.

(51:33):
I don't want the baby. And it's not because you
know the you know, he's ashamed of the baby. He
don't want the baby to see him in prison, even
though it's a baby and the baby is not going
to remember anything. You know, he what that he doesn't
want us.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Like, let's say, let's say, I mean, obviously this is
going to happen to you at some point, You're gonna
end up in prison.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
And do you want would you want.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Your your infant child or any any age really children
to see you in prison?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Uh? I took a last time we went to San Francisco.
We took a tour of Alcatraz and there was a
ton of people going into the cells and having their
pictures taken, like, oh, look at me, I'm in prison.
And I said, I looked at my wife and I said,
there is no fucking way that either of us are

(52:25):
getting in that fucking cell to take a picture. Get
the fuck out of it.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I have been to Alcatraz. I have done the tour twice.
It's very interesting. I actually really really love the tour
through quite fun and I've gone with my white friends.
And each time two different sets of friends, the white
people in the in the group have done the picture
in the cell and they're like, oh you wanna do it? No, no, no, no,

(52:54):
God forbid.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Something happened to me and that's the picture that that's
the one they put on the new The fuck out
of here, No, no, the club.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You know what, I do have one picture of me.
I think it's like it's sort of behind behind bars
in the weirdest of ways. My wife and I when
we were first dating, we went I want to I
don't remember where we were, what state we were in,
but we went to like this restaurant that was in
kind of a cool like hmpster part of town or whatever.

(53:31):
And the restaurant was in a former like jail, like
it they can. They bought it and converted it right,
and so they had like a couple of things that
were like still left over from it. And I was like,
there was like a wall that had like a little
Joe and I was like, oh, like that's it. But
I'm not getting into a cell money like that's no, no,
it's it's a really weird thing. I have two reasons why.

(53:53):
The most obvious is because black, right, like I don't.
I don't like that imagery, like it just knows that,
thank you. The second is weirdly like what if it
closes and they can't open it out like I would
the funk out? Like that's my second reason it does.

(54:13):
It's insane like that shit doesn't work anymore, but like
what if you do that?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
But what if it does? Like that's my luck?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Right, It's like, oh, isn't this funny boom? We can't
get it open? Get a fucking hire a welder, get
his ass on the boat from San Francisco and get
him the funk over here, because I'm gonna lose my mom.
Like no, like that's a weird a reason, but like
in your heart of hearts, I don't think that's I mean,
I get it though, like I'm not getting in there.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I'm not I get it. No, you no. So to
answer your question, though, I would not want to see
my son me behind any type of you know, mug shots,
in a in a jail, in any type of negative situation.
I don't need that. I don't I don't want I

(55:03):
don't want it.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Even as they're growing up, You're like, nah.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
No, no, just just call me, you know what I
look like, you call me and then when I get out,
I'll get out. But uh, you know, knock on wood
that that ship never happens. And yeah, I just it's

(55:28):
just something about the visual. I don't I don't want that.
You don't forget something like that. Man, Yeah, I know
that's really weird.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
No no, no, no, no, no, I'm not okay with it.
I'm just I did there is something about that fundamentally,
I'm just not okay with again because black and also
like what if a ghost closes it?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
And I don't even believe that's true. And I'm afraid
people are gonna I'm afraid people are gonna interpret this
as some sort of like respectability thing and it's.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Just like, no, it's not, it's not at all.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
It's not. I just don't, like, I don't want the
image of my son having of his father in a
situation like that, Like, I just don't.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
No, Like, look, if you take that as respectability politics,
I feel like you just think that everything shouldn't affect
us and that and that's just not human like that,
that's not what it is to be black in America.
It's not what it is to be a person in
the world. There's just certain things, just visually, like there's
just certain things. I don't need my daughter to see

(56:34):
me in or I wouldn't want her to do that
at all either. Like little black kids get locked the
fuck up they get they get thrown into juvie and
allsother shit over nonsense. No, it's just like it's not
for me. It's not for me, So you're never getting
me to stand in a prison.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
So see what it's like.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I can see what it's like from out here.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
It's small. It's very small, like.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
The fat I have a cubicle.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Essentially the thing, right, I mean I think they're like
quite literally, like slightly smaller than a present cell, which is.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Wet. We get a brief scene of of a flashback
of the uh pretty bad home life that Jakor has his's.
He overhears his his parents arguing, you know the the

(57:34):
mom is like, you know, you know you got to
help us, You gotta take care, you know you you
know we got to I don't even have lunch money
for the kid, and j D is just like, man,
fuck fuck that lunch money bullshit. He ain't gonna be no,
and fuck them teachers. He ain't gonna be no smarter
than anybody else. So he's gonna be just like the

(57:56):
mother niggas around here, and he gonna end up just
like me. And and it's just it's just a pretty
bad home life, right that we cut to a scene
of his mom visiting him in prison and they get
into an argument. Yeah. The thing is Jacot really loves

(58:19):
his dad and and to the to the point where
he you know, disrespects his mom because of it, which
is not a dynamic usual I'm I'm used to. I'm
very much used to boys, you know, uh be adoring
their mother's and tolerating their fathers. Right, so this is

(58:45):
this was a weird dynamic. I'm sure it happens, right, but.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Well, and I think it's his dad is seen as like,
at least on the street, his dad is seen as
like this tough guy, and you know, there's a there's
a little bit of it's a little bit of pity
on his dad too, I think, like protective of his dad.
We'll find out why later. I think that's also a
part of it. But his mom is kind of a straight,

(59:10):
straight and you know, straight lace straight and narrow type
of person. So I think that kind of pushes against
everything that he sees, and he eventually kind of realizes
he's being a dickhead to his mom. Not in that scene,
but like kind of later on.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Much later on, because there's another scene. There's another scene
where it's just like, yo, we're gonna do this right here,
like you being in a wild.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Again. That's a scene where I'm like, I don't like
the decisions that are being made by people in the scene,
Like it is bothering poor violence, speaking of abhooring violence. Uh,
it's Stunner's birthday, I guess. And so look, I I'm
not a I'm not a real nigga.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
This is this is a wild birthday party. Like you
just give me some real quick I just want to
talk about this one quick scene. Jacor needs money, right,
and he's not like out here robbing niggas all the time.
Like he needs a day job, especially for like you know,
he needs a day job. So he gets a job
at like finish line or foot locker or whatever, right,

(01:00:19):
and this fucking white bitch comes in here. He he
puts his uh, he puts his a hoodie on over
top of his work shirt, and this white bitch comes
in here and she's like, what are you doing? Where's
the salesperson? And he's like, I'm working and she turns

(01:00:39):
around and looks at the cop and it's just like
it's just like, even when you're trying to do right,
somebody fucking just assumes the worst of you. And you know,
as I get older, I try Look, I used to
do that when I was younger, right, but I try
not to do it. I try not to assume the
worst in people, at least not off right off the

(01:01:02):
bat right. But we don't get that grace. So that's
why I try to make a conscious effort to not
do it. But I don't know that just this seemed
really fucking bothered me in the way that it's supposed
to bother me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
You don't, Yeah, no it is, it's it's supposed to.
It absolutely worked as intended. Yeah, I was just like,
mind your fucking business.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
How about that? Is that an option?

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Like just mind your fucking business? Like, oh, just can't
do it? Got it? How very white of you probably
go home and beat your kids?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
So yeah, it's done.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
His birthday and apparently a really good birthday is filled
with uh going to the club doing donuts and uh,
everyone playing different types of music, all kind of smashed
together in a really annoying menagerie of noise, but everybody's
hanging out and they finally they kind of walk through

(01:02:02):
this club and walk down the street. It's like a
whole fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Thing, and we see them talk to Stunna.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
It's Jaquor and Chantey and then Tiq is there and
then talking to Stunner and and he's like, yeah, we
gotta like gotta find out, like what's going on with
his Malcolm dude, Like there's a lot of talk about
this cat, right, And this guy kind of drives up
and stinks up behind them and immediately shoots.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Stunna is like homeboy right in the fucking side of
the head, killing him instantly. And then the guy who
shot him, he gets shot a number of times by Stunner,
and Stunna just walks over and was like, did that
nigga Malcolm send you? And then he puts like three
or four bullets in his back kills him. It's pretty cold,

(01:02:58):
but it's not the way it kind of kills him
is like it is cold, but the way in which
everyone else responds is disturbing as shit to me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Like everyone else is just like yeah, parties over, parties over.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I guess, and like nobody is like screaming that there's gunshots.
Everyone's just like, oh shit, oh who.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Got got two niggas is dead? All right whatever? And
it's just like literally.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Right, like there's no sense of urgency or like fear
in in anybody's reaction. And it's like this is not
because of like poor acting. This is just the normalization
of violence that these guys, I mean, nobody thought it
was weird to watch this guy walk up and put
like two or three bullets in the in the back
of this guy and kill him. They're like, oh, you

(01:03:50):
have a car. He's like yeah, no, it's it's parked
in there. All right, we'll see you later, all right, peace.
And they just walk up like they just go into
the movies or some shit like it's it's yeah, like
it's it is an artistic choice, and I think it
has everything to do with just like normalizing this type
of ship that these people see every day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
But yeah, this movie, uh, this movie is yet another
reminder of how sheltered I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Am, which is fine by the way it's fine. Hey,
you ain't never seen a nigga get shot paintball, Like, no,
I haven't, and I don't want to. These are things
I don't need to experience up front. I just don't.
I think that type of ship just like strips layers
off your soul.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
To be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
So then we we get a little bit of a
flashback of JD.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
You know, he's you know, he's trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Like talk ship to the to the grandmother about like
you know, who gives a fuck about, like what's going
on with this kid at school and all this other ship?
And she like, look, you gotta you know, you know,
God is going to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Pray for me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
He's like religious ship is like bullshit, right, And I
was like I've never been prouder of j D.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I was like, this is as soon as someone says, hey,
maybe we should turn to God to give us hope,
and you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Know, here comes hey fuck you lady, Yeah, get out
of here, and just like just like me, I was like, yeah,
that's right, get my gun. That's that's how I operate,
Like a lot of sense, me and him on the
same page.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah, Like I don't I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Don't give a shit about religion, but like, I'm not
wildly disrespectful to people like as they're talking about it.
He was like, get the fuck out of here with that.
I'm like, God, Jesus Christ, I do that on the show,
But I don't talk to people like that, like I'll
pray for you get fucked, Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I don't talk to people like that. That's that's crazy.
Not not every day.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
It will be a wild way to interact with human beings,
to be honest. But then we we get sort of
a jump back into to Jack orr as a as
a as an adult prior to him going to jail,
and it's just him and Stunna and I guess Stunn's
girl sitting around like talking about ship and he's like yeah,

(01:06:16):
like yeah, I'm trying to be a musician or whatever,
and they're like, well, you know you could come, like,
you know, come work for me. I can always use
a little bit of muscle, you know, that type of ship.
I find the woman who's there with them, I guess again,
like Stunna's girlfriend or whatever or wife. She had the coolest,

(01:06:37):
calm demeanor and was saying some of the most horrendous
ship I've ever heard like, yeah, you know, we're just
gonna kill this figure, like not a big deal. I'm like,
I feel so calm, like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah, you know, like why are you so since that
chick from New Jack City just rock up by baby
right like that hick? You know, like, this is this
is a this is a rot or die. This is this. Yeah,
Stunna is the man from three B and and he
found his his Oh ship, I'm a lot of die bitch. Yeah,

(01:07:15):
I was like, you know what, she burned that house down?
Yes you look, look I was. I liked her. I
liked her for many.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Reasons, all the nigg I need to watch that movie again.
The man in three B is amazing, Like that is
that is a wild movie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
So then we uh we smashed cut to uh is
this the scene where offers to kill Malcolm? No?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
No, no no not not a little bit later, so
t Q and the Core they walk outside together and
what is this niggas name t Rex? He out there
with his and he was like, hey, hate this your girl.
This is me and my niggas running a train on
her in fucking four K.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
I'd be like, I thought this was it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, I thought he was about to put two hot
ones in this nigga's chest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
You know, I'm like, Yo, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
That's crazy, dude, because he played it off like he
was kidding right, like a yeah, yeah, I was kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Like that, Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Let that be the end of it, yo, what like
you ain't have to pull out the fucking video of
you and your boy fucking this guy's girlfriend. Hey, is
that it is nigga here?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Like, ah, check it out again, Yo, we all got
a passed. But this is just this is just a
level of disrespect that nobody should get out of it
with that ship man. And when he said let me
hold your bike, I was like, oh, this is nigga
about to kill him finally.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Yeah, like this this is the one murder. I was like,
you know, to let him go, like this makes total sense?

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I mean, this guy is like connected, so you can't
really like just swing on this nigga yo. But I'd
been like, Yo, get the fuck away from me, get
away from me, like stop talking to me. And the
second this guy leaves Jack Corse like I hate that,
Like I get that, Like I get it. But so
he takes the bike and then he does he does,
he does the wrong thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
He does the absolute wrong thing. God, yeah, he drives.
He rides the bike to Schante's house and gets mad
at her for having to pass, and she's like, yo,
I didn't know you, and I told you I was
walling back then, but I'm not now. And yeah, he's
getting all you know, he all in his feelings right,

(01:09:52):
because that's how men are right, Like men, you know,
the ones who are like everything has to be logical, right,
every every man wants to pretend to be a fucking
vulcan and suppress their feelings and shit. But then as
soon as something happens that they don't like, they want
to fucking give me the keys and I'll would take

(01:10:14):
my dogs and fuck you for having a life before me.
God damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
All right, look I'm not I'm not gonna pretend that
you can't be like uncomfortable with imagining the person that
you care about. Absolutely, there's nothing wrong with that, right, Like,
that's that's the most human shit ever. Men and women
deal with that Like nobody want to unless you're like
into swinging or something like that. Most people are gonna
be like, I really don't need to imagine that I

(01:10:41):
don't need the gory details of like what was going on.
That's totally fine, But you can't get mad as somebody
for having a past. That's ridiculous. Now again, like I
said earlier, maybe videotape in this type of shit not
a great idea. I'm just saying, maybe not a great idea, unless,
like you, we want to put the shit out on

(01:11:01):
the internet so people can buy or see it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
But if it was just supposed to be some private shit,
don't do that. I know, like everybody want to be
a fucking porn star, knock it off, because once that
shit is out there, you never get it back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You just you're never got Not many of you are
gonna parlay that into a jewelry making career or whatever, right, Like,
it's not it's not going to it's not gonna work
out for you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
No, it's just your naked ass, uh, your naked ass
getting clapped up in four K. Don't do that, Like,
just don't do that. And so many people do that,
you know, just like let some random person tape them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
You know, like, if I can part any lessons, don't
make sex tapes. With people that you are likely never
going to have a long term relationship with. Frankly, you
probably shouldn't do it at all. Probably shouldn't do it
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
I mean I say that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I say that as a person who is watching many
of these tapes on the internet. I'm sure, but I'm
just saying, probably not a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Probably not a great idea.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
I'm just saying, like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Just be aware of just be aware that, like you know,
it's out there forever. Yeah, for for for goners to see.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I put niggas to see. I am niggas, Like, yeah,
and rewind that was great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
They seemed into each other. So, yeah, she was my
brother got shot, so I was doing thres or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I was like, that's all. It's a wild excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
But okay, I'm sad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I'm sad, so throw as many glizzies at me as
as possible. Now, look, man, people, look people, people deal
with this ship the way they deal with I'm mad.
It's it's just it's just a funny line in the movie,
like my brother got shot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
So I was like, fucking mad, dudes, I was running
trains and ship we're having them run on me. Okay, cool?

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Uh? Hurt people, hurt people. So so yeah, he's like,
go in there and get my motherfucker keys and then
so I can get the fuck out of here. And
then like he gets his keys to his car, and
then he he gets his leg he gets his little puppies,
which is, uh, I guess it's like little pit bulls
or something, which is like the least tough guy ship

(01:13:21):
of all time. He's like, hold on a second, we
carry these two adorable dogs out of here, like this
is just funny to me. And he's like, how could
you do this to me? And she was like, the guy,
I think you're cheating on me. He was like, if
I am cheating, niggas, you were like, if I am,
it's because I ain't never trust your ass in the beginning.
I'm like, that's not why you were cheating, because that

(01:13:42):
girl was probably famous on that block for blowjobs. Let's
get real. I mean t Rex even know who the
fuck she was. And so yeah, he takes his car
and his and his two puppies and he fucking bounces.
It's like fuck you did, which is fucked up again,
not the way to play that. He goes into work

(01:14:05):
and he overhears uh this this this white woman saying
the N word, which I did not care for. She's like,
uh Jaick Corr thinks that being you know, being hood
is is about being or being gangster is all about
being black. It's just a black thing, like because all

(01:14:25):
I you know, because all I do is I do
is ride and like and keep and I keep it lit,
keep it lit, all right, A bitch like me don't
even fuck with nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Then ain't gangster?

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Okay, Hi, hi, right a little Becky Beckerton fucking calm
down and then yeah, and she was like, see my
nigga fucking d boy. I was like, one, your boyfriend
isn't even black, Like you're not allowed to say that,
say ninja, and I don't even care for that. And
all he does is sit around and sipping coating. These

(01:14:58):
are not this is not the that you think it
is methany, and so people are ridiculous. So her and
her you know, her boyfriend, they come out of the
store eventually, and so Jack Corny.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
The way right right now, she looks. She just keeps
it lit like it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
So they hop in the range Roverevere they drive off.
Jacquor and t Q follow them because Jaquor is like, yeah,
let's go fucking rod on these niggas. It's steal their rims, right,
like like, are you gonna wear a mask when you
do this robbery? Because like y'all work together, Like y'all
gotta go into fucking Kenny Shoes tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
But they get all the way out to like the suburbs,
it's like super white area and there's just like too
many cops. So they're just like, nah, fuck it, like
it ain't it ain't worth it, And Jaiquor delivers the
line of the movie white People get on my fucking nerves,
which is a line that we have all said in
our chat numerous times.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
What's you know fair enough? Like look, I get it,
I get it. I appreciated that line so much I
had to screen cap it now. And I'm just gonna
keep it. I'm just gonna keep it and just just
that'll be my response that image. It's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
It's trust me, it's totally fair. Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Of course he's he's lamenting about like, you know, this
woman claiming to be you know, all hood and ship
and living in this really upscale area, and TQ was like,
why does it even matter, Like why do you concern
yourself with the opinions of this white woman or why

(01:16:48):
are you, you know, so concerned with what she's doing.
Like the fact that you are concerned makes you their puppet.
And he's like, I can give a fuck with white people.
Think good deal, because I'm predator, nigga. I'm a predator.
I just don't have I just don't have the lockshet.
But I'm a predator. I'm early right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
So so then while he is in jail, he gets
bailed out by his mom and his mom's new man,
and uh, this ship goes this ship goes left super fast.
He's like, hey, man, how much was that. He's like,
I don't worry about it. You know, I'm trying to
help your mom out. Anythink for your mommy, No big deal?

(01:17:33):
Why are you trying to be a good dude. And
so they're walking out of the jail and he was like, oh,
so you like them white girls.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
He was like, what's up? Like at the fun like, hey,
doctor Lumar, fucking chill out. Yeah, I see a bunch
of youngsters out there running with these pale faces. He
was like, Jack Correr is responsible to the best. He goes, hey, nigga,
you don't fucking know me, like, let's let's just establish
this right the fuck now, which to me is a

(01:18:07):
very terrorist response, like niggah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
It's just hilarious to me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
And then jack Rr just immediately was like, oh word,
like you're talking man ship and this guy's like, look, look,
I thought your son was a man. I didn't know
I couldn't talk to him like a man and all
this other ship.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
He's like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Okay, and then jack Corr as he's talking, jack R
just goes he's just like looking at him and just
walking backwards, and he just goes and picks up a
big fucking rock and just smashed at on that on
that nigga's uh windshield. Meanwhile, keep in mind, this is
in front of the jail that he just wanted. They

(01:18:50):
still want, they still park like, and he's like, oh,
you're walking around, you're trying talking ship like you're a boss,
like like you are old and I'm just some young
niggas like all right, we'll fucking step the fuck up.
And and this dude tries to like roll up on
him and uh, cor fucking punched him and knocked his

(01:19:12):
ass right out to the point where he hit his
head on the front bumper and passed out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
You know what, again, this was very satisfying to me. Man,
this is very satisfying to me. Yeah, you're you're I
don't know what. I don't know. Look, I'm not in
on it. I just for some reason sounds like yeah,
I like I like that. I like to cut that
guy's jib. Man, I like cutting that guy's jib. That's fair.

(01:19:38):
Oh you like? Oh you like white bitches? Huh see,
I see a lot of y'all. Young mother, what the fuck?
Hold hold hold, hold hold on, yeah, like me like,
you don't know, right, you don't know me. It's like,
oh oh oh, I can't talk to you now. Huh
I thought you was a man. Huh Like, Yo, calm
the funk down, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Look, I wouldn't I wouldn't have done this. What jaquor did?
I get it? Like, h I get it. Look, black
queens forever, snow bunnies never, Black queens forever, snow bunnies never,
Black queens forever snow bunnies never. You have to say
it three times or it doesn't count. Well, that's all

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you remember it, Like, yeah, I mean but like he
does that shit on purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Yeah, it's a rhetorical flourish, Like yeah, that nigga gets
on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
But like he's hilarious. I mean, good, look, I wish.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
He would just stick to comedy, Like, just just stick
to com for real. So then we see t Rex
goes over to Stunner's house and like, shit is just weird, man,
It's just just weird. Stunner likes to cook as a
way to sort of de stress, and so he was

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making some some deviled eggs. Look shout out the devil eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
That's that's a black ass as a black ass side
dish at a cookout. I love Devil Diggs. I love
it now, we love. We were going into a restaurant.
We finally get in the date night. We go into
a restaurant and they got some mean looking devil eggs
and they got something called oxtail lasagna. Niggah. All right,

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all right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
You know the funny thing is, I've never made oxtail,
but oxtails are really cheap here. I'm like, hey, no,
black ain't too many niggas down here buying them. So like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I see them at the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
I'm like, yeah, I look around, I see nobody look
like me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I'm like, oh, these are on sale.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Great a pork Mexicans, Vaxicans, fucked some pork up boy,
all kinds of round. So yeah, So they're sitting at
Stunner's house.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
T Rex is there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Rex is like, hey, man, that put your music on right,
keeping blowing this nigga off this whole time. So yeah,
I put your music on, and this nigga puts his
song on. He weighs like eleven seconds. He's like, you
got another track? Like I wan, yo, you're talking, you're
talking wild shit. You show me a sex tape of
you and your niggas running trains on my girlfriend and

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now you now you're being disrespectful to my music.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I'm like, yo, you're three for three. My nigga, like
this is it? Like this is it for you? I
don't I don't care for you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
So Jacour puts on his other his other track that's
like that's like the one that he's like really proud of.
Then the guy's like, yeah, I can't really fuck with this,
and he's only saying it just to be a dick,
like it's not I don't even know that he actually
has a genuine opinion of it at all. He's just
doing it to fucking like, to fucking needle him, right,

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because he's just he's just being an asshole. I mean,
nobody would bring a copy of the sex tape you
had with someone's girlfriend if you weren't just trying to
be a dick. Like it's just yeah, he's just being
an asshole. So he's like, yeah, nah, I can't fuck
with it, like sorry, little nigga. And he was like,
no worries, Thanks, appreciate it, your fucking piece of shit.

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And so then we see smash cut to to jail,
and we see JD giving advice to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Uh to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
A son, and he's like, listen, if if they send
anybody up here like your boy, like TQ or whatever,
if they send anybody up here trying to look out
for you, understand it, Like this is jail and it's
not what it seems. These niggas are trying to kill you.
And and he was like, oh shit, okay, like but

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he just kind of kind of blows him off.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Then we see Jai cor he's smash cut. He goes
to see his friend Lamark in the hospital because things
have gone from bad to worse for Lamark and he
ends up dying. So and jaik Or is like he
did everything right, like he went to school, he went
to the army, like he wasn't involved none.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Of this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
And here he is dead right, he's dying. And then
we smashed up back to their childhood where jai Or
sees his dad kill another man in broad daylight for
like one hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
And this is what you assume is the reason that
JD is in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Prison for life, because I mean, he did that shit
and there's I mean, he just shot him in fucking
cold blood.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
It was just because he just like owed him money,
and you know, JD was like, look, guy will kill you.
And then he walked over it and he literally did it.
Then we see a scene where Jack Corr goes to
see Stunna and look, man, and this is some wild shit.
These niggas pull up in a truck with mirrors, like

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the extended mirrors so they can look under the car
to make sure they're not he's not trying to hide
any weapons. These niggas pull out like automatic machine guns
and stop them in the middle of the road. It's
like it's like a military check.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
In in a different it's a military checkpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Yeah, yeah, right, And and here his buddy has just
died because of shit happening overseas, but like it's quite
literally no different, which is insane. And he had just
left the hospital where his friend was dying, right, So
he's he's really quite upset. He to the point where
he gets to this military checkpoint and he like pulls

(01:25:45):
to the side and he just kind of has a
freak out in the car, just a complete another freaking out.
And at this point he kind of is like, at
least from the character's perspective, I got was kind of like,
well this my friend did everything right and he's his
life still got fucked over.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Fuck it, Like, who cares anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
I might as well just you know, I might as
well just do whatever dirt I want to do because
it just doesn't matter, which I think when you feel helpless,
I mean that kind of stuff does make sense, like
to have that sort of thought process.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
And so this is the scene where Jai Corr tells Stunner, like, hey,
let me kill Malcolm for you, And he was like Okay,
I don't know why they weren't trying to kill him before.
But so he's like, yeah, no, I'll do it, like
ain't no big deal, like absolutely, And so the Rodadae

(01:26:43):
chick is like, all right, this is where he stays
at every night, and here's like, here's two clean guns.
I just you know, don't get your don't get your
your fingerprints on it. So then smash cut back to
childhood where we see Jack cor see his father buying
cocaine from somebody and Jaick cor goes or actually, then

(01:27:11):
it smash cuts back to present time where then you
see him sneaking into to go to go kill this
Marcus guy. Then we cut back to the childhood and
he walks up to this dude and he was like,
hey man, what's your name. He's a kid, right, And
he walks into this guy, probably in his twenties or so,

(01:27:33):
and he's like, hey man, what's your name And the
guy's like, yeah, it's Malcolm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
He goes you know JD.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
He's like, yeah, the base head who just left.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Yeah, I know him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
He's like, that's my dad. Can you please stop selling
him drugs? And Marcus just starts laughing and was like, nah, nigga,
that's my best customer. Man, Like, get the fuck out
of here. He just walks away, which gives yeah, which
gives you the impetus for why when he sees him,

(01:28:01):
because that's the very next scene he sees him and
he's like, hey, do you remember me? Like yeah, because
he was the kid asking him to stop selling his
dad drugs and the and the point is because his
dad was a drug addict that fucked up his dad's life,
which fucked up his life and why he was all
the way into this terrible situation that he was in

(01:28:24):
because this Malcolm guy sold sold his dad cocaine. M So,
then after killing Malcolm, we see him go and leave
the guns at Chante's house. He's like, hey, I need
you to hold this for me. Uh, nigga, No, get

(01:28:44):
the fucking these guns. I'm good, thanks, absolutely not. And
so he just goes back over and like they just
kind of rekindle their relationship, which is wild to me.
I'd be like, you need to get the fuck out

(01:29:04):
of here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Well, you know, love makes you do. Love is irrational. Yeah,
Love is irrational as well as being a battlefield is
it is incredibly irrational and they see and they see, uh,
you see the police in fatigues and swat gear. You know,

(01:29:29):
they come in the house and they get them. They
intentionally bust his head open on the on the on
the corner of a door, and you know, we're we're
all caught up. And I think at at one point

(01:29:52):
in prison, I think he said, hey, you know, after
spending his time with his dad, you know, he realizes, hey,
you know, I want to be there for my son,
and I really don't want this life, and I want
to be there for him. So you know, when you
come up, bring him up, because because I want to

(01:30:14):
see him, because he's never seen his son, right, And
so it was like, all right, you know, he's kind
of he's kind of come to grips with like, I'm
going to be here for a while, but my son
needs to know he has a father and and that
his dad is trying. I have a question, a question. Yeah,

(01:30:37):
let's say you do life in prison. Let's say you
do life in prison. About that? About that be the
subject of some of these hypotheticals, No going to jail. Yeah,
you get behind you, you take.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
The picture, and they're like, gotcha, and they closed the
ship and they're like, you're going in. My biggest fear,
you're in jail for life or I'm in jail for life.
However it works. I think they allow you to do
podcasting from there. It's fine, do you allow because this
woman is like, we're gonna be there for you, like

(01:31:12):
this nigga's not gone for ten years, This niggas gone forever,
like this is is a rap fan, right, Like maybe
I guess maybe you could get paroled, but like let's
just say he can't. You would you allow? Would you
be like, look, I'm in here, go find somebody else,
or you're just like, nah, did you stay?

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
You staying alone forever? To your what are what are
the traditional vowels?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
That part? Yeah you dead? No you did you dead?
I'm not dead?

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Selfishly, I would want her to stick around because no.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
I mean he's still like bring your kids and ship,
like you still love you. But like, yo, she she's
like she was supposed to be celibate for fucking sixty
years or some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Look I don't I have no idea. I would not
expect her to be, you know, loyal to someone who
is you know, who was in prison forever. I would
not expect that of someone, but you know, it would

(01:32:30):
feed the ego and it would and it would you know,
help keep me going from day to day, you know
what I mean? Like look at this, like look what
happened when this nigga found out that she had that
she had sex before him? Right, yeah, he just he
wasn't ready for that. He wasn't ready for it. So look,

(01:32:51):
I don't know. I don't know how to answer these
hypotheticals because there is no way that I that it will.
I cannot fathom it. And you can tell me. I
hope that this hypothetical. You can tell me to answer
this hypothetical or divibe by zero and I'm gonna try
to figure out how to divide by zero. That makes
more sense to me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Yeah, I think I would just be like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
I think I give you like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Yeah, I think I just feel like, look it's cool,
like just get a divorce and just or or if
you want to stay, I'll be like you should be
able to be happy, like I'm here for life, Like
what the am I supposed to do less unless they
do what you need to do to be happy?

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Right unless if.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
I'm getting like monthly conjugal visits. Nah yo, nah nah,
you're stuck. Start life, Like, let's go in a little
cottage with real pillows.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
I'm gonna do my thing. I'mna give you the best
three minutes of your life and then just go back home.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
That's fine. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Like if it's once a month and some ship, that's cool.
But if it was like no visits, like they got
me in the fucking Hannibal lector mask on the fucking
gurney type of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Nah yo, just get out of here. Who can I
who can be mad? What they supposed to tell you something?
You know, if I'm in jail for life, uh you know,
I'm not gonna be that long. Oh damn.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
So you're saying there would be a minute missing on
the tape or not like ever?

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think I can do life.
No hope. I don't think that's what I'm saying. That's
what I'm saying, Like, and there's no hope. I'm not
gonna be that long. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's weird. Like I'm just gonna live it
out in prison, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
For one. I don't think I can if I if
I if I didn't do it, then I got something
to fight for it. If I did do it, and
my life is over, my life is over. Yeah, I
don't think. Yeah, that that's a very good distinction.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
If I didn't do it, I just be like one
of them old niggas they they finally let out because
the prison just closed down.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
It like this nigga behave for who cares?

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
What was this eighty five year old gonna do? Just
be just be an old jack man, just doing push
ups all day or whatever. Yeah, I just don't. Yeah,
that's crazy. I don't think I could do life in prison. Yeah,
your your point is as valid.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
But I'd be like I need to, like I need
to figure out a way to get.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Out of there. That's not I don't want to hang myself.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
That feels No, I'm not trying to get shanked to death. No,
Like I don't know, just throw myself off a wall
or some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
But I'd have to like just sneak into like the
medical bay and be like where's the morphine and just
like like how many I need to take? Like, what's
the right amount? Oh, this is too much. Cool, I'll
take double that, yeah, double just to just to make sure. Yeah,
life in prison would be fucked dude, No thanks. So, so,

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so then we see like t Rex t Rex, and
we realized t Rex and t Q they're all they
all rolling together. And so we see Stunna and fucking
Dorada Dodd Chick. They just walked up in this dude's
garage and shot this dude with automatic weapons and uh

(01:36:22):
and then.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
She had a shotgun, which is kind of like so
just so satisfying.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
So oh no, this is a good death.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
This is this is a very yeah. Yeah, I was
all in for the t Rex out of here nikker.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Yeah, should that do? The fucking shotgun? Which an attractive
woman using a shotgun to kill a person I uh
wanted dead in this movie very sexy to me. It's like,
you've never looked on her, man, you really haven't. Yeah,
they just looked like two fucking badasses, and you know,

(01:36:58):
t Rex took a couple of shots right to the chest.
Unfortunate for him, t Q is arrested. They said it
was a parole violation, and so he ends up going
to that same jail and in reality, like he's there
to kill Jack Kor, right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
He tries working for he was working for Malcolm. Those
dudes were working for Malcolm on on the on the
sneak tip, right. So they walk up and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Like him and uh, Jaquor and TQ like go to
greet each other, and TQ immediately tries to fucking stab him, right,
and Jaquor is had already had a weapon and was
fucking ready. He knew, he knew it was coming. And
eventually his dad gave him that advice, ye, don't trust

(01:37:51):
the niggas, like he saved his life. And so he
ends up killing t Q and taking off his He
was wearing an extra like shirt or whatever and had
blood all over it. Took that ship off, threw it down,

(01:38:12):
and that guy died and he just he walked out
because everybody was sort of blocking. So they did get
handled their business. And then like that's the end of
it and that guy blood out and died.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Good good, good for you. Yeah, no, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Uh. And then we see Jaiquor using soap to iron
his pants. This is a little prison trick, and so
we then see wee we see Jaiquor and uh JD
sitting there and Jaiquur is like, look, let me show
you how to grow something. And he's teaching his father

(01:38:52):
how to do some some gardening, right, so that they
can like build something together, right, like this idea of
finally growing and changing and doing something better that isn't
using their hands besides for violence.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
So the cycle as we see it has been broken, right,
which is a wild thing to see to know that,
like your dad and your grandfather are going to be
in prison as you're growing up. Yeah, which is yeah,
fucking while but yeah, so then credits, So yeah, very
good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Very movie. The movie it's it's kind of a throwback,
like I said, to movies from my formative years. And
I can appreciate it. It's it's it's solid. It's not
reinventing the wheel, but it's it's interesting enough that that

(01:39:49):
I would recommend it to I wouldn't recommend it to people,
and it doesn't have it has like the happiest ending
you can get in this situation. Also, you know, it
makes me appreciate what I got, right, you know, because
I you know, I'm a dork. You know, I'm a dork.

(01:40:10):
I'm sheltered. I'm not I'm not a real one. And
you know, I I I appreciate, I feel for the
people that you know, these are real life situations, maybe
not to this like extreme, but maybe right, but maybe

(01:40:31):
I don't know. And you know, you got to know
stuff like this, and just this movie makes me appreciate
everything that that I have and you know, things that
my parents did for me, and you know, I'm fortunate.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Yeah, no, I mean, and that that's actually that's a
very real thing. Is we are incredibly fortunate that we
grew up in areas that were not like us. And
that's not judging the people who grow up in those areas.
Ye feel for them, you absolutely do. That's not that's
not the choice. And people have to make hard decisions
and do things for survival and sometimes that causes them

(01:41:10):
to perform acts of violence and things like that to
to you know, to just live day to day.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
That's not a judgment.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
That is not a judgment for me at all, And
I think I can speak for you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
It's not. It's but it is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
It's terrifying to know that that people have to have
to live like that, And I mean, it's just a
sad truth.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
So all right, that's it for episode was this to
eighty five? Uh, we will be back for a preview
episode for episode to eighty six letters see you, yeah,
yeah yeah