Black and Blue (REVIEW): Balancing Being Black and Being a Cop | Ep280 - Black on Black Cinema - Black Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have no idea and many lesson about the villa two.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right now, don't find the last down before me change.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's wrap or chased on it, you know. Hello and
welcome to a brand new episode of Black and Black Cinema.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm your host, Jay.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm here with my co host Micah. Hey, Terrence, what's
up a Tierra?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
All right, guys, we are back. This is episode two
eighty Black and Blue. This is the twenty nineteen film.
I'll give the log line here. A rookie New Orleans
police officer is forced to balance her identity as a
black woman after she witnesses two corrupt cops committing murder.
This is directed by Deon Taylor and stars Naomi Harris,

(00:52):
Tyrius Gibson, and Frank Grillo. I don't think any of
us have seen this before this recording, or you know,
before we chose to do this movie. I will go
to Micah first, who is the biggest Tyres fan on
the podcast. Uh, what did you think of this movie?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know, I wasn't expecting too much. I went in
with very low expectations and they were met.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
This is Ah, this is a perfect little.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
T n T movie.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, this is uh you know, of the of the
last two movies that we that I've seen that dealt
with the police killing a black person for no reason,

(01:45):
this one's better.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Uh, you know it's it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
They both you know, throw subtle tea off a cliff
and but you know, I I was a little more.
I wasn't board watching this. I wasn't board watching either one.
But but I wasn't mad watching this, right, Like it

(02:17):
was fine, It was fine, you know it.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
There's a new phrase.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
There's not a new phrase, but there's a there's a
phrase that a portmanteau that everyone likes to use.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Whenever a police officer is in any type of media,
it's called coppaganda because usually people portray police in a
very very positive light. And that's not this at all.
So if you want the opposite of copaganda, that's what

(02:55):
this is. But yeah, you know, if it's if it's on,
you can watch it.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I don't really give a ship.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's a wild review. You could watch it right, like
if your TV is stuck and you can't change.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
The chat, like if he'm waiting for something, if you're
waiting for something else to come on, or you know
you only got like you only got a few minutes
before you're about to head out throw this home real quick.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Naomi Harris is really good in it. Naomi Harris. I
really like Naomi Harris. I think she she is elevating
this material, right, and it's it's on the ground, you know,
she's you know, she's like she's picking it up off
the ground, right, but like it's there, right, and tyresee,

(03:54):
you know, he's fine. Frank Grillo plays every Frank Grilla
character ever, right. And the most ridiculous thing is my
Coulter as a gang And look, man, I don't I
don't have any beef with my culture. I really really don't.

(04:18):
He's but he's Morris Chestnut without the swag yo, And like,
I mean, like.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
What what am I? What am I supposed to do
with that?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like he's he's super cool, Like he feels like he's
out of his element.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Like remember remember that commercial. I think it was a
sprit commercial.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
I don't know what the hell it was with the
commercial with the three niggas on the basketball court back
in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean that's like, that's like.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Third dudes on the basketball court, and they was acting
so hard and then when they when the director yells cut,
the guy's like, what's my they'd like act like Thespians.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh yes, yeah yeah yeah I did.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Commercial that's what that's what this ye and like then
again the beginning of u uh damn it, bring that
right now black Dynamite.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah yeah yeah when he gets or no not that's
not get shot.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm I agree.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Dude from the Mac, you know what I mean. Like
he was like he was a classically trained actor.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
No, no, Superman, super Fly both, yeah, super.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Fly might be both. Yeah, Max Julius, Yeah, Max Julius was.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Like the guy from Superfly was definitely like a Thespian actor,
which is wild to rewind. Yeah, but whatever the dude's
name is from Superfly was also like a hardcore.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Okay, So all right, Tiara, your thoughts, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I mean same. I actually thought I saw this, but
I thought I saw it on a plane, and that's
why I watched and I was okay, like they didn't.
It didn't feel familiar to me, And I was thinking, like,
has Frank Girl ever played a good guy in any movie?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I think he was a good guy in one of
the Purge movies, Like he was like a punisher type dude,
like helping a family out.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh okay, So, but he's still playing the same heavily armed,
military adjacent white man with a chip on his shoulder,
So a frank character who.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
May or may not be Italian, I guess.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't know. I look forward to his role in
the DC universe, where he'll play a military adjacent person
heavily armed.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Like, yeah, the movie was fine. I mean when I
was like kind of doing stuff while I was on
So it's that kind of movie. I actually liked tyres
in movies, so and I wish he would like stop
making like I don't know, like when I see Tyri's movies,

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he doesn't really bother me so because I just expect
him to be funny, but he really wasn't funny in this.
I think, like, if we're connecting something like this to
the real world, it's but like who has you know,
I guess who's going to check the police state? You know,
I guess if you have coptious out here, while and

(07:44):
SQ folks things like that. My culture, there's one scene
in this w my culture reminded looks like a fit
version of doctor Gumar I think.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Again. Another wild thing.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
He was beating up someone and his face is like
oh they had like a slow shot where he's like
clearly about to come back into the room and his
face is like, oh.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
No that that ship was so super weird, Like why
are you doing?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Like, okay, you take your Halloween bro, he got this
weird ass like like I'm hold gate.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
All right, yo, all.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right, look I said, I have said this on many
occasions on our other shows. He's not niggoriush enough of me,
Like it's just weird.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Like it's just weird.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I like, my cult are fine to stop playing those roles.
It's weird.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, it's just And that's the race.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
By the way, that's a little bit of the racism
of Hollywood. They keep giving him those roles, Like come on, man,
this is clearly not him. He should be a banker
or give him the uh girls Trip Girl Trup where
you played Regina Hall's husband.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's like that's him. I don't watch I
haven't watched this show where he or whatever, but like,
don't give him these roles. We're supposed to act tough.
It's just it. It took me out of the movie
and I and I wasn't paying that much attention anyway.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
It's like hiring me. It wouldn't work. Like it just
wouldn't work. I know what, I should play a banker,
same thing.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, the movie it's it's fine, man, when Harris is great.
There was some some uh, there was some decision making
at the beginning. I was like, girl, why would you
think calling dispatch wood? You think no one would cool?
All right, well, I have faith in the system, I guess.
But I would take this over duplicity any day. I

(09:57):
would rewatch this forever over duplicity any.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's a fair and I think that's a very fair assessment.
Terrence your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's fine, that's it, like like everyone else is. Again,
it's a tant movie. It's fine, is great. It was
a little heavy handed the ending, Like, I don't think
that's how that would work. No, it tried its best

(10:28):
to be like training day at the end. Again, this
is the second week in a row. I'm like, what
is going on with this training day? These training the beats,
come on, you can't do that. That's a perfect movie.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Stop it. Oh, let's throw her in the bathtub. I
was like, you you don't have the for this scene.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You don't have it, like.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You don't, right, yeah, nah you don't. Yeah, my culture,
I couldn't take that nigga. Seriously, I just could. I couldn't.
I'm just like, yo, this is this is silly.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm gonna start walking around corners in a very similar way,
like just in my own personal.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
It came in with the with the what's the dude
from uh the Four Brothers? Oh, she would his name,
she would tell you.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I can't remember her name.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Something sweets with the jacket when he first pulled up
in like the fur of the leather jacket with the
fur on it, I'm like, yo, this looks ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm not a friend. And tete.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Posh ass English nigga, and he played and terrifying and
that right he was eat the food next to your man,
go down there and eat the food.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Was that no British?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
No, he's just American.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, regulast nigga from from somewhere I don't know where. Yeah, man,
I don't really have much to say. It was I
don't like cops.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, that really gets like, I feel like all.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Cops are like this except for harris character and when
they try to be Harris's character, when they try to be.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I feel like I feel like all cops are are
read Scott's character, her her partner in the beginning. I
feel like all cops are his character who kind of
go along to get along, don't want to be right, right,
but like.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Right, yeah, okay, So my quick thoughts on this. When
we get started, I thought it was very mediocre. I
assume that it would be from the trailer. I appreciate
that somehow it was a better It does a better,
more respectful job about, you know, being shot by police,
black people being down by police for no fucking reason,

(12:57):
much better than duplicity. The plot is paper fucking thin,
but somehow like decently entertaining, and I use the word
decently like very loosely here. But then I looked at
who the the director is, and he directed two movies
we've already done, Fatal and The Intruder, which are two

(13:20):
movies that while I don't love them, I kind of
love them so especially The Intruder. The Intruder was fucking wild. Yeah,
this movie, this movie is fine. The Intruder is the
one with Megan Good and Dennis Quaid uh.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And Michael So.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, look, this movie is mediocre at best. Again, Frank
Rollo is playing Frank Rollo as he usually does. Tyrese
actually was not bothered by him. I don't think he
had that much to do. But his character didn't bother
me at all. I thought he was thought he was
totally serviceable. The only thing that bothered me about his
character was the fact that he was in that he
had that like early Anthony Hamilton beard, which was really

(14:13):
bothersome to me, Like before Anthony Hamilton bought a bevel
and like shaved his face properly, just like like The
Shut Out of Me.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
There's a movie called nineteen ninety two that you need
to look at, like a clip from Does he like
this year?

Speaker 6 (14:29):
It's worse, It's bro Come on, man.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, I don't. I think they just put it on
his face.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I've never seen before this movie. He's always been clean shaven.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, normally is.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Maybe just maybe this is why fair enough.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
He should probably stick to that. Yeah, So I thought
everybody was fine. Nailmi Harris to MICA's point, she's elevating
the script. But you know, raising the script up off
the ground five inches isn't necessarily that impressive in absolute numbers.
But and it's not her fault, Like the script is
just it's okay, it's just not it's just not that great.

(15:13):
So okay, But it did do a better job at
dealing with this shit than than the last movie. I
will say this, I agree the trying to make this
like Training Day. Really there's a lot of moments I'm like,
please don't try to make the King Kong and got
nothing on me speech at the end Frank Grillo, I
need you to never try to do that. Luckily they

(15:36):
decided not to. But there's so much of that. It
is really ham fisted in a lot of ways. But
the point gets across right, however clunky it falls over
the finish line, it does get there. So yeah, it's okay.
Like you guys said, it's a it's a TMT movie.
It's a solid folding laundry film for me, So there
you go. All right, So the actual movie in and

(15:58):
of itself, So the film starts off, by the way,
here's another criticism I quickly have for a movie set
in New Orleans. There's nothing New Orleans about this movie,
you know what I mean, Like New Orleans is and
then then.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Like he's like, Katrina, wipe this place out.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I was like, oh this, oh, right, that's in New Orleans, right,
Like New Orleans is such a unique city and when
it's normally featured in movies, there is a vibe about
the city that kind of permeates the whole script. There's
none of that.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Detroit it could have been.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I wouldn't be surprised if it would have film somewhere
completely different, to be honest. So yeah, that that's just
was weird. Okay. So the movie opens up Naomi Harris's character,
she is a cop by the way, she plays Alicia
Alicia West, and she is out jogging much like the

(16:55):
beginning of Duplicity. Incidentally, she is out jogging and she's
got her have phones on and these two white cops
pull up on her and they don't They are like,
what are you doing in our neighborhood And they just
slam her up against the fence like like you know,
you fit the description, blah blah blah blah, and then
you know, they take her wallet and the other cops like, oh,

(17:16):
she's she's blue, she's a cop, and they're like, oh, yeah,
my bad, sorry about that. You know how it is
what you mean, I know how it is. Get the
funk out of.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Here, Like description did I fit?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
You want to ask that question quite a lot more?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
What was the description? A black woman running.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Five had a hoodie black woman? Like, right, black five six? Dangerous?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
What? Yeah? Yeah, very weird.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
So yeah, they just basically started start the movie off
being basically saying, hey, look, you can get treated like
ship by cops no matter what. And then maybe there's
a slight difference if you are a cop. Again, very
heavy handed, I guess. So she she jogged. She continues
jogging after being pulled over by the police to a

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local New Orleans style cemetery, and she she goes to
see her mother's graves down the west and she takes
some dead flowers off and she puts some fresh flowers.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
In and that's the end of that. She doesn't like.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Talk to her mother or anything. I just thought that
was very weird, Like she could have just gone to
a Starbucks for all I care. For the relevance of
the sea, it didn't mean anything like if even if
it was something like loving mother died in the line
of duty or something like that, like oh her mom
was a cop or something like that. No, just loving mother. Okay,

(18:57):
well we'll see at the end. I guess, like I
don't really am stand what. She don't even have a kid, Like,
there's no there's no connection whatsoever to this wall that
she's standing next to her.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
We meet like recent because this is twenty This movie
came out in twenty nineteen, so her mother.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Like just died, just died.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Like they have like a flashback like I
think you're gonna make a great cop, but make sure
you keep your blackness. And then she dies and then
like okay, then that's the connection and nothing. Then you
have like a big mama scene like big Mammy are
own right, Like nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
It's very weird to me.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
So then we meet her. She's at the station, you know,
getting ready to start shift, and we meet her partner,
Kevin played by Reed Scott, and they established like they
both have to wear body cameras and everything else, and
they're they're relatively close and they have like a kind
of a like kind of fun relationship. So you're like, oh,

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I guess Kevin is fine, and so they're they're driving
by a bit of a rougher neighborhood and he's like, look, man,
we won't even won't even come down here if they
call unless a cop is in trouble, Like fuck these people.
And of course, you know, Naomi Harris is like new

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to the force. By the way, she's a former military vet.
She was in Afghanistan, I believe, which I guess they
use as an explanation while she's kicking the shit out
of everybody that she takes ten times or size. So
they end up pulling up to like a convenience store

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and she's sitting in the car while her her partner
goes in to get a coffee and the guy, the
guy inside, is like, hey, man, are you guys here
about that call I made? And he's like no, He's like, yeah,
I called you guys like twenty four hours ago about
a break in. He's like, oh, okay, what happened. He's like,
never mind, don't even fuck worry about it because already

(20:58):
robbed me.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Who cares?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Because the cops don't do shit. And you see on
the TV that six cops recently busted for stealing evidence
and filing false police reports and doing extortion, and so
the local police department that they're from is trying to
crack down on this, which is weird because they're just
cracking down on what police officers always do.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
So I thought that was.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Extortion, making up ship crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You've got to cover your crimes up, guys, head like
care ye.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
So Alicia uh sees this little boy with the freshest
fucking shape up ever. Uh. She sees him sitting out
outside of the Comedian store with a skateboard, and she's like, Oh,
I'm gonna I'm gonna do that like weird ship cops do.
Like I'm gonna try to be cool. I'm trying to
be fucking officer friendly with with kids.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
As I come and ruin their neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, it's kind of weird, you know, like I'm losing
a basketball with the local youth like in uniform.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't want to be your fucking job right out
of here, bro, I don't.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I don't like that ship at all, Like, I don't
think because.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You're using me as a prop yo, yeah, as a PLoP?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Can we film this fuck off? Like?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
No, right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I don't like that, Like, hey, we're all friends. Like, nigga,
you shot my uncle six weeks ago, Shut up, get
out of here.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Did y'all have cops come to your like schools and
ye be like, hey.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Kids, officer friendly. You didn't have officer friendly by the
time you you got to high school in two thousand
and six or whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
High school was like gets elementary, middle, elementary, schoolementary school.
But by that time I had already been harassed by
the cops several times.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Friendly niggas, not even we had we had army recruiters
in high school.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
We had cops elementary.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, they're trying to get Joe ass shot in a
different country. Thanks speaking to speaking of the army, did
you guys find the music in the beginning of this
movie a bit weird? Like I die for America, Like
I'm fighting wars for America. I was like, this feels
a little odd. In twenty twenty five, I did, and

(23:20):
I was like, I would die for America. I'm like why,
like for real, usual, I'm good, looks, Look, my daughter
could always use a babysitter.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
He can come on down here.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'll pay you and pay those twenty five cents a day.
That's expensive. So she's talking to this little boy, and
the little boy's mother walks up and she was like,
get the get the fuck in the car. She's like
yelling at her kid, which I don't like. That really
bothers me personally. I just cannot stand when people yeah

(23:59):
kids in private, Yeah, like a regular person.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Don't embarrass us.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
And so she apparently rolls with this woman who actually
you were was friends with Alicia. Even though she pretends
that she she wasn't Missy, she clearly rolls with this
like crew of gangsters or whatever. These motherfuckers talk to
cops like dang ship, which I respected, but also I
was like, be careful, but be careful right, Like what

(24:30):
the fuck you want cop?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I'm like, h like, can I go all right? Didn't?
I was like, all right, careful girl.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's like I feel like they were just like putting
the finger on the forehead, like the funk out of
here type of shit.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I was like signings get shot, like, don't do that.
I'm rooting for y'all. You know you're drug dealers. So
she's like, oh, I'm your friend, Alicia.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
She was like, I don't know you. And then she
just like fucking walks off. So all the drug dealers
they get in their fancy trucks and they drive away.
We also meet Tyrese Rockings Anthony Hamilton Beard, and she
also knows uh him as well. What's his name?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Mouse?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, mouse Jackson, Mouse Jackson, solid Christian and my low
is his given name. But you know, I don't believe you.
But so.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
His mama name of Mouse.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
So he's like, oh, she's like, oh remember me from school.
He's like, yeah, I remember who you are, Like, yeah,
you've been going for like ten years. Like get fucked basically,
and then the white cop steals coffee and like a
donut out of the store.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
That's why I knew, all right, well, this nigga can't
be trusted. He just walked, he just he just stole that.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, No, they don't pay your fuck pay your fare share,
like knock it off, pay.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Your taxes, come and go into a seven eleven and
gets you for free.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
If a cop walks into a seven eleven and I'm
in a seven eleven, I'll walk out, so like I wouldn't.
I'm not there long enough to know. No, I mean,
people say that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't know how much of a thing.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it's show
people do it. Yeah, yeah, you got to pay the protection, right, I.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Mean, that's literally what it is. It's literally what it is.
It'd be ashamed of somebody just came in here and
fucked up all your seven year old hot dogs like.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
A Cruis talking lot and there's no cops around to
help doing doing a robbery.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Thanks. Yeah, that is when you say it like that,
that's really fucked up and it's absolutely accurate, like it
is mafia. Yeah, I'm sure there will be. There might
be a cop in our in our comments. You don't
know what it's like to be a cup on the streets.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
You're right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I didn't choose that, jont I didn't choose that job.
You did a job, nigga. You weren't born a cop
like you weren't. They're not Irish.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
They have to.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
The way. That's fucked up, but that's they did kind
of do that after slavery fucked up. So so basically
they're they're supposed to work. Somebody needs to work at
double shift and read excuse me, Kevin, he can't do
it because he's trying to make a sexy time with
his wife, and so they're like, uh, Alicia's like, oh,

(27:33):
I'll take the double shift. So they send her downstairs
to work with I guess the unit that is responsible
for all of the corruption, because these niggas look like
corrupt cops, Like all of them, they all their faces
just look corrupt as ship the Nars.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
And as we all know from Yeah, as we all
know from the Midway game narc the motherfuckers just.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Do whatever they want.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
The Midway pull up and they pull up in a
Lamborghini and start blowing niggas away.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Old Porsche with what the what the Oh yeah, the Porsche.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's like a tech mountain shooting.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
That's how that game was out in The arcades is
crazy to the eighties and nineties were wild. So she
she joins up with this other dude who's the cops.
Black guy.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
He goes his nigga looks like a cross between Bill
Duke dude from that Tyler Perry movie.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
I am.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Thought it was one of the Wood the Wood brothers.
Oh yeah, Harris what Harris Harris brother? What Harris? What's
the other one?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh? He's a yeah, he's the one who she tried
to drown in the tub and the first.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Movie I thought it was him at first, I'm like, no,
it's not him.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
But he does look like Bill Duke too. Like that
is that is an absolutely correct assumption.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
No, I have any of the James Moses Black, who's
playing a character named Brown. Ironic, so Brown, Officer Brown
and Officer West. They pull up to a confrontation outside
of a club or some ship, and these two dudes
are fighting. She she, she pulls the she pulls the

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one guy up who I guess who was in the
middle of the ship, and the other dude starts sneaking
around again in a very my culture around the corner
type of movies, like you know, moving through the crowd
like a snake man. And luckily, just as he was
about to I guess, shoot the other guy or the cop,

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Brown comes out of a cop. A very odd choice,
a very odd choice.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
What he gonna do.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
In a crowd of people.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Everybody sees your face, everybody and again are right there.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
He's like, you're going to die if you do that?
Going to what the.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, you guys are arguing over again to a club,
is it really worth it? So Brown pulls a pulls
a gun on him after he's he repeatedly slams this
guy on the on the hood of the car.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Uh, Which, here's the thing, police, my nigga, Like you
was about to shoot her? Yeah? Man, get you. Yeah,
Like I'm I don't really feel that bad.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Was was it successive or was it because if he.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Was going, if he if he knew that that guy
had a gun, then yeah, yeah, I'm okay with I'm
okay with it. But here's the thing, right, Like, but
in the whole confrontation, he's like slamming him and slamming him.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Ah, you know what's gonna happen to you know who
I am? Why you take the gun out of his
out of his waist? Like why are you waiting until
she's like.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Dde dude Brown, He's like gun, but like, why ain't
you just disarmed the nigga, like immediately after you grabbed
him slam him on the disarm It was I mean,
I get it because movie, but like it.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Was just it was just odd.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean I guess I guess then, yes, it is
excessive that he didn't just you know, disarmed the guy
right then and there before you know, right putting his
head in the in the in the car. But you know,
at the same time, right like yo, this nigga was
about to shoot. This nigga was so brazen. He was

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about to shoot a guy that's pinned down and a
cop was was pinning to Like this dude is crazy, Yeah,
like Brown Brown.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Says he was.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
You know, he had this gun for you, And I
was like, I don't think he was gonna shoot her.
I think he was gonna shoot the guy he's actually
mad at, which is also brazen.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Again, he's pinned up against the wall by a cop.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
If anything, he's just gonna like, you know, deafen the
cop and then get shot by Brown in the back,
and probably nine other bystanders will also get shot because
they're standing right there.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
So yeah, it was really weird.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So then in a in a diner because that's where
cops are.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'm sure they got a couple of good donuts.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Brown delivers, uh, the speech of the movie, which is
you think you black, you ain't black, you blue, and
that's all it mad At. It's like, okay, and I
guess that's it.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, but this is a real fucked up.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I mean they're not wrong, He's not exactly wrong, but
it isn't incredibly fuck mentality.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean because you just and this is why like
you you you lose all your you lose all your
you lose all your identity, Like and I get it.
That's the point, right, Like they want you to to
only think about They want you to only think about
your fellow officer instead of doing what the job description

(33:13):
what they what it says on the fucking car bro
to protect and serve. I guess they need to, you know,
the public right, they need to add that part.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Not because their cars even say that anymore.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
They said they say it in this movie. They say
it in this movie. So if they say it in
this movie, like and you're right, I don't think they do.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Say it anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I mean in the L A one say like you
treat you like a king or something like that, like
back in the day, was it something like wild like that?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
What I think making it up? No I'm not.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
The freight No no, no, no, that's I'm not making
this up. The phrase l A p D We treat
you like a has become controversial due to its potential
association with the Rodney King beating incident.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, there's no way that ship was on the car.
It's not possible.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Let me let me see if I can find it.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
They were just staying at the assholes.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
No, but that was before, that was before.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
The King shooting or the King beating. I'm pretty sure.
M hm, we got we got this ship.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
I thought I thought I thought the statement was actually
before or maybe it maybe it was afterwards. Never mind,
if it was afterwards, that is that is Oh no,
it is no, I'm sorry it is mocking the reference
of that. But yeah, there was. There was l A
p D cops wearing the T shirt.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Again.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Again, like cops, it's not okay to say all cops bastards?

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Are you short? Yeah? I'm gonna need justification as to
why I shouldn't say that. It's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
So yeah, jesus, okay, yeah, I love that those cops
got away with it, like that's unbelievable, and white people
are like, no, it seemed justified. He just wouldn't stop
getting up, so we just kept beating them.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay. Things change very slowly.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Uh So they get to they go, they go off
to some area or whatever, and Brown is like, I
gotta go see a you know, a c I which
I think is just like kind of like a snitch, right,
and you know, I'll be right back. And she's about
to get out the car, and he's like, uh, no,

(35:51):
you said, Joe ass in the car.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I got real police business.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
And so he goes into this this like warehouse type
of ship. Uh there as a dude doing a straight
up drug deal right in front of her, and she
gets up. She's like, Hey, what the fuck are you doing?
And guys like, oh shit, my bad just runs off.
I guess he didn't see the police car behind him.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think he was trying to I think he was
trying to steal that car.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh was he?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's Frank Grillo's car. Oh I see and no one
was in it. Yeah, yeah, okay, you're right.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
So just as she walks up to the car to
check it out, she hears two shots coming from the
building that Officer Brown walked into. So Alicia Murphy walks
into this abandoned warehouse and hopes not to get shot
by many many bad guys in order to become a RoboCop.

(36:46):
Later on in the movie, she witnesses Frank Grillo's character
is just straight shooted a black dude in the fucking
forehead and then put a bunch of other fucking bullets
in him. And then they turn around and they're like, hey, uh,
didn't we say to stay in the car. And the

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one cop who looks like the most corrupt cop I've
ever fucking seen. That white cop is just like a
word and he just starts fucking shooting her in the chest.
I was like, yeah, that guy seems pretty corrupt.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, this guy's name is bow Knap and he looks
like a racist.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah no he does, like in this movie, Like I
don't know what.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I don't know the guy personally, but in this movie
a perfect casting, perfect casting.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, no notes.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Every time he shows up, I'm like, this, guys.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
He's from l Age. He'd be from like Staten Island
or some ship. Does he get he gave me like
racist New York vibes? Yeah, yeah, but he's from.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
L am still be racist, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like, but it's just his his his accent, and everything's like,
let's do from yeah bottery.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, there's nobody with a Cajun accent in this movie.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, nobody sounds like James Carville in this movie. I
was very upset by that. You need somebody, you need
somebody with a thick ass, like you know, look, New
Orleans isn't exactly a transient city, so I expected someone to,
you know, sound like James Carville. Nobody, nobody said, Crawdad, Well,

(38:31):
we did fucking Republicans in there, fucking asshole.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Like all right, he's such an angry old man's when's
the last time you think Trump saw his own dick?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
That's an actual quote from external Wow. So so goddamn
fat he's so they they put like five bullets in her.
They all hit her vest. I think she gets gets
one one through the vest and she gets hit and
she she's uh, she fucking disappears like show enough in

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the fact.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
That she gets shot and then she falls through the
floor yep, into some into a pilot garbage, but like
that's still you know, it's a fall all in.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Shots didn't hit the body cam like Jesus bro.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, they're not the best shooters in it's like aim
for the red light. Fair enough, that's storm trooper behavior.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So she she gets she gets away, she tries to
call a dispatch and she's like, oh, you know, I've
been shot, and she tries to give some like code
or whatever, probably like the cops a bad code or whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm not a cop, and.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Frank Grillo gets on the gets on the on the transmission.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Basically it was like no, no, no, we got our
new rookie cops. She got freaked out.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
She she killed somebody, and don't worry about I got it.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
So okay, okay, you got it, Frank, Well we'll see
you later. And then as she's trying to leave, immediately Joey,
corrupt cop from uh should be from Staten Island, as
Tarn said, immediately sees her and he just starts fucking
firing off shots.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Like this guy is just reckless as fuck. You're right
to this.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
This doesn't really make a lot of sense for her
to call dispatch on the radio, because like, they're all cops,
they're probably all on the radio. They're probably all on
the same.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Channel, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, I mean literally to that point, that's how she
finds out about another cop get hurt. Like it's the same,
it's the same fucking transmission nobody changed the channel.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
You know, I think something else that I was I
was thinking it was like, was she was she so
naive that she honestly thought that other cops would not
be in on this, especially considering how untouchable the NARSI
I seem.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Or I think she thought.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I think she thought it was I think she mistaken
military brotherhood for police brotherhood.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
You know. What I mean is a large difference, is
a huge difference.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Military is like, Yo, you don't just shoot people because
I mean they dropped like you know, you know, to
drop on innocent folks.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
But they'd be in like little you know, like trailers
and ship with with all that. They don't be on
a field Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, five thousand miles away, fucking he doing it. But
I I do think there is a there is a
difference in sort of that military connection from soldier to
soldier versus cop to cop. Though there are there is
plenty of like factions inside the military too, right, like
racial factions and shit.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Like that too.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
But I think, and I wish they had kind of
with the stronger script, they would have delve into that
a little bit more, right, like having if you've got
a connection with another soldier, like that person is looking
out for you. I kind of no matter what type
of shit. And I mean, there's a reason why a
lot of military people go into law enforcement because it's

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it feels like a one to one. But I think
there is kind of a profound difference in that regard.
So but look, if you were in the military and
now you're a cop and you disagree, feel free to
correct me in the comments.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I'm not going to read it, but feel free. I'll
probably read it.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
So they're chasing her through the streets and they're just
shooting at this black woman in a police unit form,
and somehow that is just completely aoka in fucking broad daylight,
like fucking who cares? It was just just start aiming,
And eventually they all get together, uh uh Bill Duke
and uh Frank Grilla and the characters. The character's name

(43:12):
is Deacon Brown, which goes to show you that you
cannot trust a dark skinned man named Deacon.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So she's being chased around and she's going from house
to house and the residents.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Are like, Uh, what you doing here? Help?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
You can't sit here?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
No you helping? You helping?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
A cop running up to your door with your bloody hands.
I need help.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I'm sorry, door, you're not helping.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
To you, it looks like she's having a really really
hard day.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
That's a black woman. You just gonna let you just
gonna let it wrong.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I have a dog, kind.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I know.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I have a dog, Like I don't need cops, you know,
chasing her getting happened and she dog.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
So I just you know, tr don't support black women
for nothing.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Dog my dog is.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
You know I want. I don't hear no positive black
womanship from you ever again. I have a dog as
a black woman. Oh damn all right, Bill Duke in
the fucking Ring Diners, Like, nope.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
I mean I would help. Nefessor Williams from Black Lightning
was in this movie if she was running because she's
not wearing a cop.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Now what if Naomi Harris was a plain clothes cop
but like you knew she was a cop.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
But she she she had like some she had a Gucci.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Belt and playing clothes.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Oh she's a narc. She needs help.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Why she gets shot?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
You got a lot of questions. You know, the police
are already outside shooting, Like she's gonna die?

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
They gonna have my dog calling me?

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Like what.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
I mean y'all helping yell on her in your house?

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I have a dog as well.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I got a ring.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I don't answer the door.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Oh this four K video tells me not to come
to the door.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I'm on the fourth floor. And she got a buzz?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Who was it?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Who was this?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
You just come over to the balcony.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Nah, And you know what transfers to a good point.
You can't really get to my apartment without going up
and walking down the hallway buzzing in all of the stuff.
So it's pretty hard to get into my apartment. So
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
So what if somehow she's not like they would be like.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
To get in here?

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Where's your There does of other apartments for you to mind.
And that's that's my purpose.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Oh that black woman looking for help, That black woman
looking for help, And all you can provide is you
vote for oh ship what tray policy? Tear us boom
slammed the door.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
So she she's looking for help in all the wrong
places and she's running and all of a sudden she
sees a cop car and she's like, oh, these cops
are chasing me.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I better go out to these.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Cops, right, Like that's a really good assumption. And it
turns out she was wrong. So she she she's like, hey,
I need help some some some cops are shooting at me.
And one of the cops she's like, come on, come
on in, come on in, and and meanwhile she the
other cop in the car is like, hey, we found

(47:13):
we found a little nigga Rita as Jay would call her.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Don't worry, it's not the work.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's like Margarita with like with an N on it,
right and and and she has the radio one because
none of these cops, None of these cops thought it
would be it would be good to switch channels, right,

(47:44):
Like everybody knows channel two is the corrupt cop channel
to switch to, but they all on the same channel.
So she's like, nope, I'm out of here. And then
she runs and for some reason, these dudes can't catch
a wounded black woman on foot while they're in a car.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
And she got away, and yeah, she disappears like she's
a ghost. And I'm like, where do you think she
would have gone? Like she didn't just the.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Materials de materialize but disappear she's somewhere in this area,
and they was like, we can't find her.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
Ence, I don't know about you. That's all we can do. Sorry, guys,
Like how did you not find her? She's sitting under
the steps.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Like a trash can.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I mean, like, I don't know why. He could have
just like ridiculous. He could just squat it down and
he would have seen her because she was She was
also making her like no, I was like, girl, get
behind the get behind fares.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I lay flat through dirt on myself or something like.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
She was like, I feel like.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
It is her movie.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Like we would have seen her kind of get into
her military bag and be like, yeah, man, I do
it with that with honors for a reason, because I
killed people, real people.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
That's a that's a good point, Like that is a
missed opportunity to show like some flashbacks of like using
her military training. And also like maybe you could have
shown like the difference in connection between other soldiers and
cops or something like that. Yeah, there, there's that. That's
a very good point. Like I watched a bit of

(49:32):
I will finish it because you know.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Sorry, I already finished. I know exactly what you're tying.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
G twenty right, yeah, well I was. I think I'm
twenty five. Okay, at some point, you know what, why
the fuck not? But they like they try to tie
in like, oh, she was in fucking Fallujah or whatever,
that's why she can do this shit. I'm like, all right,
I mean I'm not buying it, but like, why is

(49:59):
by old Davis's like arm so fucking jacked in this
movie is like kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
She was like, I ain't work out and for nothing. Yeah,
you're gonna see saying fuck, she looked great. She look great.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
So yeah, that movie is ridiculous. Oh I just saw
that picture you sentenced. That's ridiculous. That's that nigga. You
need to stop with this beard. Like you got a comment.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I think that was. I think that was like hair
and makeup that did that, because there's no Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
They they look like they put his beard off with
a fucking paint roller on his side.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
He looks came out last year, late last year. I think, yeah,
well earlier this year. I've not heard whether that's good
or not. I have no idea that. I just saw
a clip from it and I saw that nigga's face.
I was like, yo, come in what the fuck is
going on with this? You know better than this.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
So yeah, so she hides. She eventually runs away from
that cop. She gets to she gets to Tyree or
Mouse's convenience store, and you know, she comes out of
hiding and he had he had heard some noise in
the back of the store, so he had pressed the
like the silent alarm, right and look to black People's

(51:16):
credit in a weird way, I feel like it's a
missed opportunity.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
She was thirsty.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
So the second she came out of high and she
drank some seven up black people like sprite, I feel
like this is a very missed opportunity, Like we like, come.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
On, man, probably couldn't afford it.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Oh yeah, because that's a Coca Cola product, right, yeah
yeah seven.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
No, they gave that sh away for free. They were like,
please put in a movie. For the love of god.
No one's cringing her garbage. Uh swill.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
So, so she's trying to like make make a plead
to ty Reese's character, like, hey, I need help. These
cops they shot me. They're corrupt, like you know something, Please,
I'm just let me stay here so I can call
my partner. Uh he's like, all right, I guess, and
so she called. She calls her partner Kevin, and Kevin's like, oh,

(52:10):
all right, like I'll come down and help you, like,
oh ship, Like I can't believe this is happening, So
she calls him.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Then one of the one of these corrupt cops makes
it to the store, and he thought like Tyers is like,
oh yeah, I'm the one who called you, like, don't
come here, you know, fucking guns blazing type of ship.
And so she's hiding. She's hiding out in the store.
They again are really bad at yeah because if she

(52:40):
like I couldn't I guess we're seeing her reflection.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah, but that if if you could see your the
woman's reflection, then they can right like she's not really hiding. Well,
it's a weird, Like I get there trying to be
like clever with their with their with their shots, and
I can appreciate the effort. I would have rather just

(53:11):
cut to like a cramped location. That makes sense, right,
like that she's actually hiding as opposed to just laying
by some milk crates.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Get right in plane.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Oh she's right, Oh she's right there. Boom boom, boom.
So they they the cops, they they look up his
ID and they're like, oh, yeah, I see you didn't
do anything. And then the cops are just kind of
pieces of ship and they're like, all right, we're gonna leave,
and it's gonna be dirt back to you. They leave,

(53:46):
Naylan Harris comes right back out.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I think she super glues her bullet wound together, proving
once again that she was in the military and toughest ship.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Even Tall Reese, who who was always playing the the
insurrogate in every movie, it's like she's like, you got
some She's like, you got some bandages? Like, I don't know, well,
first of all, what the fun kind of convenience stores
this she ain't got ain't got a band aid? And
second but but but you got glue okay, And he

(54:18):
was like, She's like you're gonna glue it. She's like yeah,
like huh.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Okay, Yeah that worked.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
But I appreciate what you know, what else I appreciate
about Todd Reese's character is that he ain't no superman
and he's not trying to be right. Yeah, yeah, right,
Like when the when the cop had when the cop
had had him handcuffed while he was in the store
and pulled the gun out on him. You could see

(54:49):
a tear come down his eyes, down his face, you
know what I mean, Because like, yeah, he's scared, man,
Like I don't want no part of this, like like
any other movie, you know, And and you know he's
he's you know, deferring to a woman, and for some
dudes that's a problem. And but like this character is like, nah, yo,

(55:14):
I don't want none of this ship.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
You want the right, you want the Fallujah, And I'm
definitely I'm standing behind you go for exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
So like I will give this movie. I will give
this movie a little bit of credit for showing a
tough woman and not like copping out no part intended,
you know what I mean. Where Todd Ree's got to
be the one to save the fucking day in in
like a in like a traditional like action hero way,

(55:42):
Yeah he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
He doesn't. Ever, the only time he actually has to
kill somebody is to save himself. It's not to save
anybody else. So and actually, I mean you could make
the argument that she gets saved by a woman at
the end, she gets saved by mission.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Spoiler for this very important movie.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
So yeah, after they decide to super glue her wounds together,
he gives her some I guess some like more like
kind of regular clothes again, like she's got like a
like a hoodie on, but like she still has her
like uniform shirt on. I'm like, take that ship off.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Take that ship.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I don't understand it. You got, yeah, I mean maybe
in a different context. Last time, last time I saw
her in a sexy contact, she was sleeping with a
person who I I vehemently disapproved of.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
When that I was like him and and who was that?
That was in a movie black Back? It's very good.
It was. It was reggaejeon page page.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Oh yeah, okay, so yeah that was because gross.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Oh is that true?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I mean Bridgington, believe it.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
I think he's bi racial rights and he's from and
he's from Britain.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Nope, oh damn revision. I think my culture is the same.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
You know, Yes, yes he is.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
He looks it. Though he looks it, I mean he
just I mean does he's got a vibe.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
He's got like he's got like you know how we
say certain white women have inter racial poem face, Like
he's got.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
You seen what his wife looks like.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I look, I don't know what his wife looks like,
but I can, I can already see it. I can.
I just I just know.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Thin mousey, probably blonde, white woman.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Yeah, yeah, I know, she's probably like my height. Actually,
niggas be known.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I'm not surprised. What's what's the doctor umar line?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Snow bunnies or like snow bunnies black black snow bunnies.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Never queen snow bunnies never?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
What means forever snow bunnies never?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
You have to say it three times? You haven't. He's
such a weird dude. Man, he really is.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
NI can take him seriously, which is a real problem.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
He really shouldn't. Okay, well, I say this is his wife.
Good for him. It's just that I don't even need
to see. I don't even need to see. I just
know already know, I already know.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
I will.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah, let me say hold on, because I I I
honestly don't know what. I really don't. And look, that's fine,
I don't real I don't care a ship.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Yeah, of course I will say this.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I did.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
I didn't meet Mike Culter like years ago. It was
a Rhode Island Comic Con. He was super sweet and
his hands are huge and he does and he holds
your hand. So I would just say that.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Look like I said, I don't have a beef of
Mike culture, just stop playing nigger roles, like stop like
roles like you just like he's a fine actor. He's
not that good.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
He's not if he if he's gonna play, he should
be like the like a federal agent in like an
action movie that's like super straight laced and has to
make the hard decision.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
He's the perfect straight man and buddy cop, right I was.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
I was just gonna say, if you put if you
put him up with like who's like a really who
could like really turn it on, like as the sort
of even like think he'd be a good, really good
Murta to somebody's Rigs, Like I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Like, yeah, you put him next to a racist Australian,
I'm gonna see that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I mean, look, I'm not saying he's a racist. I
don't think that he is. But if Chris Hemsworth wants
to play a racist Rigs they wanted to, if they
want to reboot Leath the Weapons, it sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Why not make extraction free back door lethal weapon reboot.
That's not bad. That's not bad. I'm not mad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, and then he joins the police force after all
the crazy shit he's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Seen, Right, Okay, let's see it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Fucking why not, I've seen worse. Uh So back to
this movie. So she meets up, She meets up with
She meets up with Kevin. Kevin shows up in uh
in the hood and he's like, hey, uh, like what
the is going on? She's like, all right, so fucking
Frank grillo Is is doing his frankroll shitty shooting people,
just crazy. And he's like, yeah, yeah, you should definitely

(01:01:08):
not report it because yo, you know X, Y and Z.
And he's giving all these details and she's like you
don't want to be a yeah, and she's like, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Tell you any of that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Like he's like, no, I'm sure you mentioned it, which
is like the most classic thing they do in movies, Like, no,
I didn't mention it, You're you must be corrupt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And then she opens the the glove.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Box and he's got a gun in it and she's
like aha, but I'm like he's a cop, Like I
don't know how that's really a aha moment, Like it
was a weird fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Thing, like you have a you have a gun? Yeah,
I have a exactly Like I'm a police officer. It's
what we do here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
But she she grabs a gun and she pulls it out,
and she's like, pull.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Over, motherfucker. And he's like all right, sorry, my bad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
And and like they fucking get into it and like
she punched him, I think, and and and another cop
car pulls up behind them and they're fighting. She's beating
it out of him again military training. And the cop
car pulls up behind they know this is Cavins.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Truck because they're like, why is he pulled over?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Like yeah, they just start firing into the fucking truck.
That's their bullet. They were just like Kevin's expendable. They
just start firing shots into into the back of the truck.
She eventually subdues subdues him and handcuffs him to the
steering wheel and he's like if you run out, can't

(01:02:36):
help you. I'm like, Nigga, y'all just got into a
fist fight two seconds ago, and she escaped. You and
the other corrupt cops that she's around so like, I
didn't really again, I didn't really understand his argument.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Mouse Mouse is headed home.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
He goes home and Alicia's there again, wearing a hoodie
with her police uniform with the fucking lapel floating in
the wind, out in the most obvious shit ever, and
she's like, I need your help, you in the shit
with me? You know, they're tied to you and also
that shit. And so she's at his apartment trying to

(01:03:12):
hide out. Meanwhile, the son of her old friend sees
that she's there, right, and so he's like, hey, I
remember you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
You're that cop from earlier. He's like, all right, well,
this is foreboding. I wonder what will happen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
It's fifty one minutes into the movie and then we
finally get to see my culture's character. For some reason,
the chief of police shows up at the shooting that
happened what feels like nine years ago in the movie.
She shows up to find out, like, hey, what's going on?
And so they're like, all right, Liz thick Pin, this

(01:03:50):
is what this This is what happened in the movie.
So they're like, all right, the rookie cop, Alicia, Alicia West,
she shot these these black men. She got trigger happy,
and then she ran off and she's in the wind
and so all this is going on, She's like, you
better figure out what the fuck is going on. I'm
out of here, gum shoes, And so she fucking leaves

(01:04:11):
and my culture shows up. My culture is not a
police officer. My culture is a gang member. The head gangster. Right,
he shows up and he just walks into a fucking
crime scene, and they're like, hey, you can let him in.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
It's like, that's not how cops work, even if you
are corrupt. You don't just let that nigga walk in
to a crime scene.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
And then the whole time they're like, hey, don't touch nothing, don't, don't, don't,
don't fuck up the crime scene. Nigga, him walking in
is fucking up the crime scene. What are we talking
about right now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Got out the car looking like a slim Rick Ross?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I lost it? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I can't take this serious?

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I don't understand this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
He okay, I know. I know that when you're a
gangster and you got swag, you're supposed to be very
fucking cool, right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I get that he is not, which is fine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
It's raining, and this nigga is wearing his fur coat.
That's gonna get fucked up, right, even a gangster knows that, right,
you don't wear a Sweden shit out in the rain.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
So he's wearing a fur coat, a leather, leather.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Because every actor is bone fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Drying, except for Frank Rillo, who is somehow wet, and
everyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah, it's very weird.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Right, it's raining, it's windy, it's overcast, and this nigga
still has on sunglasses. I don't understand it, Like, none
of this ship makes any sense. He is not dressed
for this scene whatsoever. This nigga is dressed like he's
going to a cold night in Miami, I guess. So
again they they let him into the crime scene and

(01:05:58):
they're like, oh, yeah, by the way, way clearly Frank
Gorilla's character and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
And this character.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
They have history, right, like they are well aware of
each other's situation as corrupt individuals. And he goes over
to my culture and he's like, yeah, the sixty nine
gang or whatever they killed, they must killed your your nephew.
And he's like, but to be honest, it was a cop, okay,

(01:06:30):
And my culture's question is correct? Why are you telling
me this? Like this feels weird? And so he's like, yeah, well,
you know, you could kill her basically if you want to.
He's like, all right, bet give me all her give
me all of her info, which is definitely what a
gangster would say, like give me all of her info.

(01:06:50):
Do you have a dossier? Who are these criminals?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Like they're very weird, very strange. I, much like my culture,
am not a hood nigger, so uh, y'all will have
to y'all known hood niggas will have to explain to
me why he has rills on the front four teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
But none of the rest though maybe he has a dentist.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
That's like, isn't it usually like usually like either all top.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Or all bottom or or both, Like why are are
you talking about why four?

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Because it looked cool?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I'm told it doesn't. It really doesn't, at least not
on my culture.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
You know, no, I don't. I don't. Look if you
have gold teeth like it, it don't look cool on nobody.
It just looks like your teeth a yellow In nineteen
eighty seven, yeah, gold teeth is a is a wild choice,
like like today, like in today's America, Like because the're
getting gold teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
That is a wild choice. Also, it's really bad for
your teeth, just assignment, so teeth, Like Kanye I was
just about to say, he's yeah, James Bond.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Movie, he's got like those teeth. He doesn't have teeth anymore, right,
it was just covers that he put on his teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
They might be covers because he just I don't give
a I wore a clan outfit. I hope all his
teeth fall out of his fucking head. I don't give
a ship was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
What you needs?

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Help?

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
So we find out, like we we see all the
corrupt cops, fucking Jersey corrupt, Kevin corrupt, Frankrilla corrupt, and
Black corrupt. They're all together and they're all looking over
her her like her file, right, her dossier, trying to

(01:09:00):
figure out anything about her, and he's like, do you
know anything? He's like no, even though her partner I
don't know anything about. It's like does she does she
have a boyfriend? Just you know who she fucking like
blah blah blah. It's like all right, like, bro, I
really don't know what us like like as a black,
she doesn't really share a lot. She's got a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I don't know, so.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Naomi Harris. She eventually decides to take a little nappy
nap h at Tyreese's apartment, uh to make sure that
she's still saying. She's wearing her bulletproof vest, which I
think is just fucking hilarious. You're asleep, like just get
up and to shoot you in the head, Like you're
not protected by wearing a vest, if anything, just put

(01:09:48):
it over your face.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Maybe that will give you an ounswer protection. This is
very strange.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Eventually, the cops go back to the convenience store. They
see that Mouse actually was hiding Alicia out, so they
know that, so they go after him. The little kid
from earlier sees all the information about like that's being
texted around about how Alicia killed their cousins Zero, the

(01:10:22):
guy that Frank Rilla killed, and so he walks up
to her and points a gun at her, and of
course she wakes up immediately when she hears the gun
clock and then Tyrese gets the gun away from her
or away from the kid and shows him like, oh
see you on the phone it says that she killed
all the killed our friends and kids. Will believe anything
because they're stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
I mean that they will. Then that's just the way
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Then the cops they come to Tyresee's building and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
She's like, we in it together. We got to get
out of here together. And he's like, I want to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Like all right, well, it's a bunch of corrupt cops
with shotguns outside, so pick your poison. So he's like,
all right, bet let's get the fuck out of here.
The cops break in. They fucking storm into the building.
Some gang members who are also I guess associated with
my culture's crew, they see her, and so there they

(01:11:18):
have a bounty out for her, and so they start
shooting at her and and mouse and the and the alleyway,
and she goes into fucking g I Jane mode and
fucking starts like shooting every dude within a five mile radius,
which is dope because me, I guess you got it.
Tyrese uh grabs a guy, beats him up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Find it weird that you can kill those criminals, but
you can't kill those fucking cops. Huh, those criminal cops
that are trying to kill you. Yes, she doesn't have
the evidence, Yeah, just shoot shoot them, like get a
gun and shoot them, but she doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Mouse saves himself, like he he quote unquote technically saved
her by grabbing a guy with a shotgun and he
like wrestles him and then he ends up shooting the
guy with his own shotgun as you do. But he
was mostly saving himself because that guy was like fighting him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
So there you go. That's his that's his big Superman moment,
which I'm not mad at.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
M Eventually, the gangsters they grab up Mouse on the
road and they start my culture's character starts kind of
like torturing him, like not torturing him, just like doing
like a Palestinian hanging right. He's gotta like hung up
by his arms and just punching the shit up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Is that what it's called?

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Yeah, like except they like raise you up off the ground. Yeah,
just break your fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Arm and then damn all right, Sorry, I didn't mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
It wasn't just being a racist.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
That's what it's called, right, or like what Mexican necktie?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Right, that's a that's a thing too. Just sucked up
all right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
You can watch the first season of Reacher and they
show it, which is fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Not the thing you want to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Then my culture does that weird scene where he looks
like he's about to have sex with Tyres against his will.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
He's walking around the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
It's bizarre. No thanks, that's had one nine uh nineteen.
You're never going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
That thought out of your head when you see it.
You're never gonna get that thought. He's like, are you ready,
big boy, Like no, nigga, yeah, it's the scene from.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
He's all like, uh, it's gross. That scene is just
off putting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yeah, So instead of.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Violating him in that way, he just continues to punch
him in the stomach, which you know, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Neil, such a bizarre shot, like for what right like
to long, but like you could have just walked around
the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
And you could have had it like not with his
face like being made like that, just you could have
done the slaw motion with him just like walking and
just like kind of this terrifying kind of thing if
you play the music right or whatever. But having him
look at the camera like that is just like you're
skeeving me out, man, Like you're making me real fucking uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
You could have been doing anything else, anything else with that,
Like you could have been taping up his hands, like
I'm about to fuck this nigga's ribcage all the way
up right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
You could have had him like holding a knife or
like a machete or something like, oh shit, he's gonna
like fucking stab him or something like that, any of that.
But he just say he walks up to him in
this very homo erotic way, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Just it's just super homotic. It's just this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
So Alicia remembers that her partner or former partner, said, Hey,
they don't really come down to that area.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Unless a cop is in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
So she starts, she starts walking down in this area
in that like that apartment complex, and she takes off
her sweatshirt and she's got her police band or her
police vest showing everything else. And so she's hoping that
one my culture will his his crew will respond.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
And they do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
They they grab her up and bring her upstairs, and
he doesn't wait too long to have a conversation. The
second she walks in, he's like rabbit and he just
like grabs her sorts, like slamming her around again. Him
trying to be like this is very weird to me
because he's got the the the grow on and he's like,

(01:16:02):
like he said, he looks like a dork, like he
doesn't look I think.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
I think this is what he was when he reminded
me of what's his name?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yes, yeah, it was, it was. It was really weird.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
He shouldn't be Uh, he's treating her like she's a
snow bunny, which obviously never Yeah, he looks really fucking
weird in this scene. Man, he looks really strange, like
and what is this about? Like one fourteen, he really.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Does look like doctor because doctor Mumore is not bold.
So when it's just showing like this part, he looks
just like that nigga right funny.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, it's very weird. This, this entire scene is very strange. So, yeah,
he throws her in the bathtub. They try to again.
This is a very training day fun moment. Again, you
cannot copy that scene.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
It was. It's it's just too good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Also, pushing a guy in the bathtub with a shotgun
on his face has a bit of a more visceral
feel than just pushing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Someone that up and holding a gun at a distance.
It's it's not the same.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
So She's like, I didn't kill your cousin fucking zero
or whatever, your nephew, and she's like, I can prove it.
I got bodycam footage. And I feel like them niggas
would have just not listened, like in reality, like this
whole scene is weird, Like here's the footage. Okay, they
get the camera and they get the data and it's encrypted.

(01:17:38):
But then suddenly I guess the nephew is a hacker
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
The fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Yeah, because the nephew plays video games, so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
You figure it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Play video games all day, Michael, you play video games
all day. You you decrypting uh fucking police files. I
mean you're a computer genius, played video games.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Both Yeah, okay, really good because you never know really
good at uh. I had to get my wife to
help me, and we shared the keyboard and we did
double hacking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Yes, that's one of the most infuriating scenes I've ever
seen them, not how computers work. That was n c
I S where they had two people typing on the
same keyboard and they said, we're doing double.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Hacking. It was like someone is doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
The troll.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Like, you're not gonna you can't do that. I need
the a key my nigga for this command, but I'm
using it like move your thumb, like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Okay, so they don't kill her, right, They're like all right, alright, alright, right,
so you say you got this this camera footage, all right,
so we're going to get the camera footage. You will
let you live. Then Missy comes in and then she's like, yeah, bitch,
where you've been, Like you left us, you know, you
left me for dead.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
In the hood. Fuck you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
I hope my cousin kills you. It's like or my
man or whoever the fucking does start. They take the
they take the camera to uh, the local video game
player and he's like, oh, sorry, I was playing Rocket League.
I guess I'll decrypt whatever you need. And eventually, like
all the cops are like they're coming to under the

(01:19:30):
guise of saving Alicia at this apartment complex. They're in
full fucking swat gear and because she's in trouble, as
it's been reported, but in in actuality, h most of
these guys are there just too straight up murder her.
Alicia asked to see Mouse to make sure he's okay.

(01:19:52):
They let her see him. Everything is fine. They they
figure out how to get into the camera. They decrypted,
they watched the footage, and now my Culture is pissed
because he sees Frank Grillo kill uh his nephew or
cousin or whatever. And at that time, immediately the cops
storm into the house and uh it's like Fallujah again. Uh,

(01:20:15):
they are just fucking firing automatic weapons. My Culture is delicious.
And you know, eventually Culture and Grillo they get into
a close quarters fight and it's one of the dumbest
fights I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
It is just weird, weird set up, weird, Like everything
about it is just odd. You know, they're talking while
they're doing it. It's it's it's a poorly it's it's
not a very interesting uh fight scene. Can't really see anything.

(01:20:53):
Uh there's a big ass riot shield in the way,
which like they're you trying to trying a mush's face. Yeah,
like okay, Like that's how my two year old fights,
you know what I mean, like just trying.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
To like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Like all right, all right, trying to give him the
mandible claw, Like what are you doing? Like this is
not gonna it's not gonna work. So yeah, Frank, uh,
Frank Grollo just shoots my culture in the stomach. Because
of course, eventually, you know, fucking Jersey corrupt cop he
shows up, uh proceeds to beat the brakes off of

(01:21:38):
Tyres and Alicia. Uh there for a minute, and eventually Alicia,
with her military training, forces that guy to uh self
deport from this mortal coil, which was a pretty decent death.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
After this happened, after the after after that, Uh, Smitty
is the CoP's name after he kills the Bill Ducan
looking dude, Deacon. Deacon gets killed by a white man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
So, bro, yeah, go buy your other name. You'll probably
be fine. Whatever the real name is. Who even knows anymore,
legitimately don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
I don't know legitimately the randall.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
So so eventually after she after kills that Smitty dude,
her and Tyrese, they go off into this you know apartment,
and and he's like, listen, they're looking for a black
female cop, right, like that is who they're looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Why don't you give me the camera.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
I'll sneak out of here with like the bolea shit on,
and I'll sneak back to the precinct and I'll put
the camera on the fucking upload device.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
And she's like, all right, this is a great idea.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
It's a it's not a good idea, and I'll tell
you why, because nobody can. You can't just walk into
a police station. Like, I don't think that's how it works.
Don't you have like a key fob or some shit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
But he's got but he's got the you know, he's
got the jacket on, so he's a cop. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
This is on the video game as logic, some video game, Yeah,
hit Man, right, like, just put on a different uniforn.
You're a waiter now, Like you did not work here
ten minutes. You're a six foot two inch bold white
guy with a barcode tattooed on the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Back of his head. But you're a waiter now, all right,
it's perfectly fine. No one noticed. Yeah, it was like,
how is this gonna work? Who's he?

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Well, I guess the swat team is out on assignment.
No one's gonna notice him walking into.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Yeah, there's a lot of what it was. Yeah, there's
a lot of cops missing from the precinct. I guess
it was all hands on deck.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Also again, says Teresa's character says I can upload it
to the main frame, but I don't know how to
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Well, he says, He says, You're gonna have to tell
me exactly what to do. I don't understand computers. Yeah,
but then when he gets to the computer, he was
typing like ninety words a minute. I was like, what
the fuck? Okay, well, it's weird. Well he learned a lot,
nigga like, stop hating on him. This movie is trying
to this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Look, this movie is ya.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
It's way too.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
I feel like I feel like another thing that could
have just done if it would have made more sense
to me if they had taken that body camp and
been like posting on social media. So because the cops
are in on it, so it needs to go out
to the public since they were able to kind of
put out because because remember they put her her face

(01:25:15):
out there for everybody to see it. And I'm like,
why not just you have the evidence, just be like,
bitch on innocent, just post the video.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Yeah, like it was.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
It was really weird because the kid who plays the
video games right the obviously the computer genius. He was like,
we got to send this out to everybody, but why
didn't you though, like follow through nigga, like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
They didn't have enough time because the cops can't busting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right, you're right. Well
they should have thought of that. Put that up on
YouTube immediately. It's not even that long. It'll take mere
second stop load. So Tarres eventually gets to the police
station with little to no resistance, and he goes he

(01:26:01):
goes in and he starts uploading the footage from the cam,
the body cam up to the mainframe as it were.
So Frank Grilla eventually starts fighting. Uh, he finds Alicia.
They start fighting. They it ends up out in the
street because she straight up runs at him full blast,

(01:26:25):
Like the black dude didn't fucking get out in the
middle of the night. She runs full blast at this
dude and knocks him off the balcony and onto a
cop car. Okay, that is some interesting body weight mechanics.
But all right, sure, yeah, I mean again, she's she's
a soldier. Sure, then on on on a car. Uh.

(01:26:52):
They start fighting the street and she does something that
I thought was very very therapeutic for me. Is a
black woman beating a white man with a metal rod. Yeah,
I mean is there a way to make that sound
of my ring tone on my phone?

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I loved it. I'm like, he shouldn't be moving after this.
I know he's got a bullet, but she was wailing on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
This man, Yeah, to the point where people were like watching,
They're like damn, like they're recording, like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
God, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Also, I need I need uh. If this ever happens
to you in real life and you are a black
woman and you have been attacked by a white man
and you were defending yourself and you find yourself in
possession of a rod, I need you to, yes, do
what she did, but I need you to aim for
the head. That's a sure fire way to keep him down. Okay,
you don't just hit him in the back, You're being
too nice. Hit him in the back of the head

(01:27:49):
just once. I mean more than once. She didn't want
to take a life. She put bullets in them niggas
fucking ten minutes ago. Okay, good Samaritan, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Up closer and personal, you know, like right, but yeah,
you gotta you gotta aim for the back of the head.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
At least once. If not, if you now, if you
don't want to do that, you don't want to give
brain damage.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
I don't see why not. But if you don't want
to do that, hit him in the knees, man, Look
make sure he can't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Get up to walk. It is a very very effective
place to aim.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
So yeah, no, I loved it. She beat the ship
out and with that rod. It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Then he tries to get his gun. Uh Missy, Missy
gets the gun, and she was like, you know, not
so fast, motherfucker. And you know, women are doing it,
sisters are doing it for themselves. He eventually, uh, he
staggers up to his feet. He's bleeding out of the mouth,
which is always a good sign that the villain is
about to come to his his end. She's she she

(01:29:00):
gets the gun from Missy, she's got it trained on him.
And then all of these swat guys who don't know
what the fuck is going on, they they all start
aiming their guns at her and you know, putting the
little red lights on her, proving that she is going
to die if she does not put put the gun down.
And he basically gives a speech like yeah, see see

(01:29:22):
what happens. Like you ain't doing shit, You ain't changing nothing.
Get the funk out of here, and then luckily the
police chief for some reason, gets an update on her computer.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Again how does this work? From there?

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
From like the second the second fucking body camp foot
it is uploaded, she gets a fucking email.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Is that how that works? Right? And then it just
starts it just starts playing, and she's like, I got
a new email. I better check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
And so she watches the video and it is, of
course the video of Frank Grillo killing the the guys
earlier in the movie, and so she calls in at
the last minute. She's like, listen up, local police officers.
You know, Alicia West is innocent. She didn't do anything,
and all the cops are and she's like, stand down,
and all the cops were like, okay, I guess, I

(01:30:17):
guess we'll stand down.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
How did the police chief know that that Alicia was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Was accused, yeah, or not even about to get shot,
but like I thought, they were sending the SWAT team
to save her.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
So what is she talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
She's innocent, well, she thought because remember Frank Gorilla's character
earlier said that she got uh trigger happy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Oh she got trigger happy? Okay, all right? And so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
So like that they so why were they going under
the guys of we got to save Were they going
under the guys that we have to save Alicia? Or
were they going there to be like, Oh, Alicia's there
and she killed a you know, a criminal informant. Let's
send the SWAT team down there to go pick her up.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
I think it was more a cop is in trouble.
I don't know that they knew it was it was
her necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
I don't know, they didn't really make that clear.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Eventually, Frank Grilla gets shot like out of nowhere, and
everyone's like, oh shit, like who did it? And it
turns out it was Kevin trying to redeem himself, as
as the white man coming in after fucking up in
the beginning of the story Royal pretending to be your friend,

(01:31:40):
fucking up Royally behind your back and screwing you. But
at the end, just after you've gone through all the
hell for four years, here comes a white man to
save you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
In the end, and.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
The moment he had them on, he was looking at
his flocker, he was looking at the photos of his kids,
and then he turned around and looked at Alicia's locker,
which had which which had scotch tape on it. Everyone
else's had had had had a more permanent name tag,
which should have shown you that he was going to
end up being a good guy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Ah, yes, yes, yeah, I'm a real fan of the
of the White Knight. He for fucking you over cool
man good And so they arrest him and you know,
maybe Kevin will go to jail. I don't know. Frank
Girl doesn't die, which I think is a shame. He

(01:32:36):
just gets shot and then they take him in jail.
I would have preferred the pay for the pay for.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Yeah, I did. I thought I wanted, like, if I'm being.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Honest, I thought her her speech about like I'm a person,
he's a person. We're all people. I don't have to
cheer choose. I don't have to choose.

Speaker 8 (01:33:02):
I'm like, yeah, okay, you know what you choose, though
they're kind of making you choose. But you did choose because.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
You shot gang members again fifteen minutes earlier in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
You chose, you chose to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
And also like, I mean like you kind of did
choose because as you can see the people, how people
react to you in your neighborhood. They don't trust you,
they say you're black, but they say you wear a badge,
so you you are kind of choosing I.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Mean, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
This is the end of the movie, by the way,
I'm sorry. The end of the movie is she jogs
up to her mother's grave again and changes the flowers,
very important to the entire story.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Obviously, fucking bookend called bookends. Jay.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Yeah, I don't even know if that's actually her mother.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Maybe it is. Maybe maybe she just goes and hangs
out in the fucking cemetery.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
She may be a weirdough because who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
So the idea of being a cop and being black
and sort of playing against those two things. I don't
want to say that I think black people shouldn't be
cops because that feels probably stupid to say. I think
it's kinda like, but if you're gonna be a black cop,

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could you not forget that you're black?

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Like, you don't have you don't have to, you don't
have to.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Like, I feel like black cops are are like overly
harsh on black people to like to prove their copness
in a weird way instead of just like using using
your blackness and I'm not saying all cops, but like,
but all cops, right, I'm I'm I'm over being.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Like nuanced about it. Fuck them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
But like, at a certain point, you should be using
your blackness as a way to understand the people that
you you police, and instead, I think the vast majority
of the time it is a way to just like
beat up on these people who you think should be
doing better because you're quote unquote. So I don't know,
I think black people should be cops, but like stop

(01:35:15):
trusting white people. I guess maybe it's my argument, Like
they're not your friends either, Like they weren't your friends yesterday,
and just because you wear the same uniform doesn't mean
they're your friends now. It's just it's like a fraternity, right,
the people treat you like dog shit and then you're
your best friends.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Like, that's not how that works. You're going to come
best friends first, then you treat your friends like dog shit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Duh, Like what of course that that is? That is
how it's supposed to work. Yeah, I mean, where are
you all? Where are you all on the abolitionist argument?

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
What getting rid of the police altogether? Yeah, No, that's
fucking dumb. That's dumb. That doesn't make any at all.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
I just bel I hate hearing understand how it would work.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
It wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
It sounds good on paper right to you, like a
super lib right, it sounds good on pay Oh, we
just get rid of the cops and we like create
better services. So like, if people have mental health issues
and give them, you know, some niggas need to go
to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
This people, this can be an and with it doesn't
need to be an either.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
Their products of their environment. I understand that, But there
are a lot of people that grow up in those
same environments that didn't end up just murdering people.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
But here's the thing here. Whenever you whenever you bring
up very real crimes that happen people, the argument against
that is usually like, well, this current system isn't doing
much about those people right now. And my thought about
that is always like, but what is your solution? I mean,
I know there's like, I mean, I know there's a

(01:37:02):
restorative justice, restorative justice and like, which is trying to
give people, you know, back into society. But we're not
talking about those people who we think can be rehabilitated
back into society and they know we're not talking about
those people. We're talking about the people who just do
not give a fuck and are okay with terrorizing people
in terrorizing communities.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Yeah, no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
What was it. Richard Pryor has that one joke I
forget which it might be on the Sunset trip where
he's like he went and visited the penitentiaries and you
probably knows joke, and he's like, yeah, there's all these
all these brothers in there, you know, like it's kind
of sad. You know, I went and talked to him
and everything else. He goes. You know what, I realized,
Thank God for penitentiary. Some of these niggas need to

(01:37:44):
be there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Some people knew some of these to do their job.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
We just be cops to just not be assholes, do
your job, treat people, you know, with respect, don't be
so don't be so trigger happy. I mean, none of
us are cops, and we don't know every single thing
to go through in the very real danger that that
happens to them and stuff like that. But it's just like,
just do your job. Do you think that you're supposed
to be doing.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Yeah, I mean, look, when it comes down to the
sort of like abolish the police, which is fucking insane
to me. I feel like the only people who say
that are white people who live in neighborhoods. They they
never have to deal with police issues. Abolish the police,
which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Okay, there's a very fusty Bahaman woman who is very
much an abolitionist.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
The police. Understandably, I get it. I just I just
don't understand how it works. That's so well, I'm dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Like the idea of better services for people dealing with
like if somebody is if the police are called right
now for somebody who has like mental illness or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
I agree with the worst peace at all.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Right, cops are not the people to solve that. Or
you need social workers. You need people who are trained
in that type of shit. I got no problem with
an argument about we need more people to handle that
and take that out of police hands. If niggas are
robbing a bank, like what do you want them to do? Right? Like,
if the shit in heat is going on, You're like, well,
I guess we'll call it social workers. That's not the right, like,

(01:39:23):
just like you need the right people for that job
for people who have mental illness to deal with that,
sometimes you need people who are are built for situations
where there is a fight at a club and a
dude just sneaking up in the crowd to shoot shoot somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
You need a cop, right, you just do.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
That. Being said, you need cops to do their job. Well,
like Tiara said, it's not about let's just keep the
system and just keep adding on these other services. No,
you need to fix the police system. It is broken.
There is no argument about that. To me, I wouldn't
argue that at all. But you need to fix the system.
It's not just a out throw the baby out with

(01:40:01):
the bath water. Fix the system. The problem is fixing
the system. It's difficult. So people just go out just
get rid of it, Okay, Please, by by any means,
point to any society that does not have police officers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
I would love to hear about it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
I mean, also, like you need we're more or more educated.
Wasn't it something that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Was like on average, I have a high school graduate degree.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
You get these niggas a gun and just go get
out there. Have you met people from your high school?

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
There's a there's a guy went to middle school with
and even even in middle school, we just knew he
had problems, like he whenever he got in trouble, that
the one of the worst tempers. He was like a short,
white kid, pudgy. His face was always red. And then
one time, maybe several years ago, you copped up on

(01:40:57):
my people. You may know on on Facebook he's a
firefighter and bottomore. Now I think he's in like dun
dark or middle reverse.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
No, that's fine, this nigga is crazy enough to run
into fires.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Good. Great, that's a that's a great. Don't give him
a gun.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
But like I mean, but I was, but I was
looking like through his through his profile, he shoots guns
like he was. He had guns in this profile like
he I think I think he he has like a
punisher thing on it. Oh great, But it's just like
you know, it's it's the it's the people. Like being
a cop. The entry to doesn't seem like it's at

(01:41:37):
the right standards.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
It's kind of low, yeah, because people don't really want
to get shot at, like they don't well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
I mean, but also but also also we know that
cops don't get don't face the consequences that they should
that they should be facing when they purposely do something
malicious and it makes it harder to trust them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
Yeah, I mean we had talked a long long time ago.
I'm sure these statistics have not changed much at all.
But like this idea of like cops getting killed on
the job, that's kind of a largely a fallacy, like
it it really is super rare, No, it's super super rare.
Like again, everybody thinks like cops leave the house and
it's like, oh shit, you're rolling the dice like you're

(01:42:27):
fucking Alex Murphy, Like, no, you're probably gonna be totally fine.
But they treat it. They they are trained by like
those secondary training things where it's like, you know, like
it's either you or your your wife doesn't have you
coming home that night, so you gotta shoot first and
ask questions later. Like you can't train cops like that.
That's fucking horrifying, and that's why they shoot first and

(01:42:49):
then like somebody's running away from them, like ah, fucking
shoot them right, they like, it's just an immediate response
for them. So those kind of things where they're trained
like that, that shit needs to go away, but they
just keep doing it. They don't change anything, And then
they wonder why all these cops are killing innocent people. Ironically,
they're the trigger happy ones, right. So no, I don't

(01:43:12):
agree with abolishing the police. I just think there are
better ways of sort of handling things. Like they don't
have here, They don't have necessarily like beat cops, right,
Like you're not like they don't have them like just
walking around type of shit, but they do have they
have like the same kind of cops who have like
their areas and they're like they drive around, right, they're like, hey,
how's it going, and they talk to you or whatever.

(01:43:34):
Like even if you have that where you're not like
the windows rolled up and you're just like leering at
people and shit like that, if you at least have
people have some connection to police, it's far better. I mean,
that's why beat cops were a thing in like the
sixties and seventies and even into the eighties. And they
used to incentivize, at least in Baltimore, like they would

(01:43:55):
give mortgage discounts if you lived in the areas in
the city and Baltimore, like the vast majority, like seventy
plus percent of police officers in Baltimore City, they don't
live in the city. They have no onus to the
city in which they police. So what do you give
a fuck if you shoot and destroy everything that's in it,
you don't fucking live there, Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
You should be required to live in the city, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Or there should be a percentage, like it has to
be at least seventy percent of Baltimore City police officers
live within the confines of the city. They mostly don't,
so they have no connection to the community, and they're
they're basically are there to do what people often say,
which is to protect property. That's true. Yeah, So look,

(01:44:39):
I don't I don't pretend to have all the fucking answers,
but I can tell you this, getting rid of all
cops not a great idea. Allowing tops to do what
they're doing right now also not a great idea.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
There's a I mean, I've seen people say, like, you know,
we can rely on like just citizens of the community
to kind of have these confrontations.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
What citizens.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
You're talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
Like, My answer is, like these things require already already
people are already selfish, probably now more than ever, and
aren't as community minded as we probably thought we were before.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Smash Smash cut thirty five minutes ago, I have a dog,
but go ahead exactly like exactly me, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Like I have a dog. I can't. I can't sit
through a training on have to escalate situations for things.
You know, it's not for me, it's not for which one.
We should trained individuals to go to a certain academy
and they're hell to a standard. They live in that
community and they do some fucked up they go to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
Yeah, I mean you said it about as simple and
plane as it can be said, Like what the fuck?
Like yeah, like you fuck up, you go to jail
like that's just and guess what, they can beat them
and you got to go to gym pop too. They
gonna beat the brakes off of your ass. So stay yeah,
fucking you know, fly right, like keep your shirt on
the straight narrow man, like sorry, com should be held

(01:46:10):
to a different standard.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
You should be. Ye. Oh, it's not fair.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
No one forced you to. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
I think if you, if you choose to be in
a job where you're in a position of power and
you know that you can make decisions that impact people's lives.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
And live or die, by the way, live or die.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
Yep, and you abuse that power, I think that you
know you should. You should probably suffer some tougher consequences.
I don't know about like being shipped off anywhere, but
maybe you know you can stuff those consequences here. Get
your due process or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Do process? D O process.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
That's how that nigga thinks to spell.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
I guarantee it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
You yes, if you're ball in d e W. Now
do you process?

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Any other thoughts on uh black and blue before we
get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
It should have been called police.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Oh for first of.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
All, fuck police.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
None none of us made a black and blue pun
this whole time, because puns are terrible. Nons are awful.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
The movie was a pun.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Yeah right, all right, Well, I guess whatever you guys
are sad.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
I need to go walk my dog.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
See that's all you care about.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
You don't care nothing about these black women suffering running
around goddamn neighborhood seeing Okay, damn shame. All right, that's
it for us, guys. We will be back next week
with episode or preview episode for episode two eighty one.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
We'll see you guys next time.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
See hey bye, yeah yeah yeah. Travel SCA, this travel SUCTA,
this travel OUTSTA, this channel

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Black and Blue (REVIEW): Balancing Being Black and Being a Cop | Ep280