June 26, 2025 • 55 mins
This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to announce the next film, "All Day and a Night." The film follows a young man who has committed a homicide and deals with the repercussions of his action. The movie stars Ashton Sanders, Jeffrey Wright, and Isaiah John. The random topic this week is discussing an article that lists out what are some Black directors and Black actors favorite movies of all time. We go through the list and give our takes on the films we've seen, why those films may have influenced those particular people, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have no idea less about the villain right now,
don't find the last down, call me change.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let's wrapper chase on it.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello and welcome to a brand new preview episode for
Black and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm here
with my co host Micah.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, guys, we are back. This is a preview
for episode two eighty five, All Day and a Night.
This is the twenty twenty American crime drama film written
directed by Joe Robert Cole, stars Jeffrey Wright, Ashton Sanders,
and Yah Yah Abdulah. Matein the Second basically is about
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an aspiring, aspiring rapper who ends up in prison like
his dad isn't ends up in prison, and he's kind
of raising this kind of not so great world. Then
he ends up doing some shit that he probab shouldnt
and he also ends up in prison, and right before
he goes in, his girlfriend lets him know that she
was pregnant, and so it's sort of a generational kind
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of conversation of like trying not to repeat sense of
the father type of thing. It looks very good. So
this is on Netflix, so you can check this out.
It came out again twenty twenty. So, I mean, all
three of the major players in this movie are pretty
great actors. So I am looking forward to it the
movie that we are or excuse me. The random topic
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this week is celebrities Black celebrities talking about their favorite
their favorite movies of all time. Not just black movies,
by the way, but just their favorite movies of all times.
So this is kind of interesting. It's a selection of
black actors, directors, and artists talking about their sort of
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I would assume stuff from from their youth and what
have you, So it'll be interesting. We'll talk about the
movies that they like, give our thoughts on it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Taken away. Yeah. This article is courtesy of The Root.
Shout out to The Root and Chanel Janee for for
the article.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It starts with Ryan Coogan, Everybody's new favorite director. He
was recently on an episode of Closet Picks for the
Criterion Collection, and he listed his favorite films as Seven Samurai, Thief,
Late Spring, Malcolm X, and Love Jones. This is an
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incredibly eclectic group of films. The only one I'm not
familiar with is Late Spring. Have You Have You?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So? It's it's by a Japanese director, because I will
actually watched that because I think I said this to you,
actually that yeah, that clip, I've not seen.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Thief.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I've not seen Late Spring, So Late Spring is by
a Japanese director. Like I started after I watched this,
I actually created a list of like movies that I,
you know, sort of classic movies or the things I
haven't seen that you know, people that I trust with
films have recommended, and I actually put Thief in Late
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Spring on there. The Thief is by Michael Mann. Apparently
that's very very good as well. According to Coogler, Look,
the guy knows movies, and if you've never watched him
talk about film, it's actually really it's a treat because
like he's not just like yeah, I like this movie,
Like he can break down everything about the history of
those directors and stuff. It's awesome to listen to him
talk about film.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Really, it's it's it's really interesting to listen to anybody
talk about anything that they are knowledgeable and passionate about. Right,
I don't know music, but I'll listen to like Anthony
Fantano talk about music because he makes it interesting. Right,
I don't know. Look, I like movies. But I am
not a film student, right, I don't exactly, you know,
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I just really enjoy them. So I can listen to
Ryan Coogler talk about film, the medium and the actual
like physical film all day. He did he did a
little special thing with Kodak where he broke down the
different types of like film, like the stuff that you
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actually shoot movies on. And it was like a half
an hour or something like that. And I watched the
whole thing because he just he is so into it
that it makes you want to get into it. Yeah,
and he's not. He doesn't seem like the type of
person that is like he seems like he might be
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kind of stand office in public, but like once you
get him going on something, he's just like, well yo,
I mean but like look at this.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, yes, No, he's got a real nerd. He's got
her own nerd quality. When it comes back to he's
a big dork.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He's a movie dork, right and and uh, and I
love it. Look, this is list. This is a great
list and makes sense for Ryan Coogler from what little
I know of him. Right, you can you can see
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throughout his filmography the stuff that these movies kind of
deal with right, like, Love Jones is a we did
love Jones, didn't we? Yes? I think we really love
Jones and Love Jones is like one of the classic,
like contemporary black love stories. He's one of the best
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by far. Yeah, Malcolm X is I mean Malcolm X
is Malcolm Max right, Like, I don't I don't know
what else to say about it. Michael Mann is an
incredible director. Yes, like it's Kurosawa is? I mean? Everybody
rips off Kirosawa? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right, it's just like the goat. Hey, I'm gonna I'm
gonna make a samurai film. Really, Gee? What style will
it be in? He I'm gonna make a samurai video game? Really,
what style is it going to be in?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right? Hey, I'm just gonna if you're Quentin Tarantino, Hey,
I'm just gonna make a movie. Oh okay, where are
you pulling your inspiration from? Right? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Who the fuck else am I gonna pull it from?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, this is an incredibly interesting list, not surprising, this
is an incredibly interesting person. One of my favorite singers
is Janelle Monnet, and during her episode of Closet Pics,
she she said that her favorite films were specifically horror related,
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the the Blob, I've never seen the blog Erase her
Head in nineteen eighty four, Brazil and Night of the
Living Dead. Yeah, hell, look, that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Is not a list I would assume of Tanel Monet
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's it is, and it isn't right because like she's
another one who is very much a very artsy nerdy person, right,
Like she's been through her phases right where you know,
early in her career she was you know, the arc android, right,
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and she's kind of transitioned into this woman who is
like in control of herself and her body and her
sexuality and stuff like that. And yeah, and so yeah,
I can see it, but it's not the thing that
I would think of off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I mean she's very much she's very much an
art kid. So it like like Brazil in eraser Head
being there, that definitely makes sense. Look, I've been wanting
to do Night of the Living Dead.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was about to say, like, if if we were
to do if we were to do a movie that
is not like a traditional like black movie, and how
you know, we loosely define it not a living dead?
Would be it? Not a living Dead has not a
Living Dead. If you haven't seen it, you should watch
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it because it's it's it's there. And I don't know
if like I don't know if George abram Merrow like
meant to have these like these like black like how
do you say yeah themes or or but there's a
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black character in it that you immediately it's it's the
black experience, ben is the black experience in this country?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, I mean like from my from my if I
recall like interviews with him now, he kind of meant
it like it wasn't it wasn't happened since he kind
of did that on purpose, which makes the film, which
makes the film that much more interesting, right, And it's
you know you should see right, And it is a
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it is a non traditional It would be a very
much a non traditional movie for us. And maybe we
save that for Halloween because it is I mean, they
didn't have black heroes in horror movies. They barely have
that now, like they just.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They don't have black people in horror movies, right, Like
this whole trope of like oh the black guy dies
first is like ain't no black people in horror movies? Yo?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like first when when are we in it?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Right? If we are in it, we die usually right,
ninety nine point nine percent of the time we die,
but but very rarely.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is it first? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So and yeah, washingight a living dead. Matter of fact,
that's a really good idea. We should do that in October,
if we remember, Yeah, if if I recall, Romero wasn't
unintentionally making that, like it actually was kind.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Of on purpose. That was not like the main purpose,
but like the choices he made were like yeah, no, obviously,
like what the fuck? Ao ed a berry from the bear.
Her list is High and Low, which we'll get into, charade, bottle, Rocket, Thief,
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thief again, interesting, the Funeral to Sleep with Anger, and
EO MOFE, which is subtitled this is My Desire. I
guess it's a translation. I've not seen any of these movies,
so I know High and Low is that's a Kirasawa
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movie that the new Spike Lee, right, so I'm I
do want to actually watch that ahead ahead of that
the Spike Lee movie coming out, But I honestly don't know.
I've not seen any of these lists on her list.
So that's again that I will add these two things
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that I want to.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Watch again Thief there again? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like, all right, well have you seen have you seen
Thief before?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
No? I haven't. I haven't, And I haven't seen Bottle Rocket,
which is weird. I thought I've seen most Wes Anderson films,
but I have not seen Bottle Rocket.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
This is a super early Yeah, this is a super
early film.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
This is this is his first feature.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah. But you know what she's also, she's she She
strikes me as as an art kid in a lot
of ways. So I'm I shouldn't be surprised by this
one either, to be honest, But no.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. She's she's very much.
I remember her episode of Saturday Night Live. Look, I
know you guys don't like Saturday Night Live, but you
gotta watch her episode. Her episode. Her episode is fantastic,
and because she came in there to play right, like,
she gets what old school, not hyper snarky political Saturday
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Night Live is. It's just she's she's being super goofy
in that episode. It's really really well done, excellent.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Now I like her a lot. I think her career
is I mean, it's fucking taking off, to say the least.
I was trying to see where she went to school. Yeah,
I mean she went to NYU, which makes sense. She
has a major injury writing. Oh she was an upright
citizens Brigade. Okay, yeah, she's hilarious. That makes sense. She
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was an intern there, so okay, that makes sense. But yeah,
that's a that's a good list. That's a good list
of things. A lot of stuff I've never heard. Cynthia Arevo.
Her list is The Devil Wears Prada, Miss Harris goes
to Paris, Chuck a lot, and Eve's by you. I've
never I've never seen Miss Harris goes to Paris, but
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I've seen all the others. There's a good list. That's
a good list. What of those have you have you
seen or not seen?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I've not seen Miss Harris goes to Paris. I've seen,
but don't get I mean it was which Now she
doesn't say which version, right, because there's that movie has
been made like a million times, so who knows.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Hopefully it's not the one with like Johnny Depp.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
That's the one I saw, and it's not it wasn't
you know, it wasn't for me. I've not seen the
Double Ways product either, I hear that's a pretty great movie.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's pretty good. I mean it's it's fucking Meryl Streep.
Like she, as the quote goes from Modern Family, if
Meryl Street wanted to play Batman, she would be perfect
for the role. Like she's just really good at everything,
Like she just does. Meryl Streep is the white Viola Davis,
like she just does.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean you put either one of them in a movie,
I'm like, what is it about? Who gives a shit?
I'll watch it. They're both incredibly talented. Yeah, Chocolattis I
saw looking at this list of when I saw the
nineteen eighty eight film, I believe I think that's the
one I saw. And Eased by You we've done on
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the show, which is excellent. That's an excellent movie.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, this is a good list. It is a very
good list.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
H nothing like too too crazy, but I mean Eased
by You is kind of a fucked up movie in
the end, but it's that's a good movie. I really
enjoyed that episode.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Washington's here's a very modern list for the uh you
know which I'm I'm a little surprised, uh given given
his lineage, but his favorite films from the Criterion closet
are Menace to Society, which you know, I mean faces,
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Rumble in the Bronx, uh do we but Malcolm X
and Ghost Dog where the Samurai people.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
We don't really like that movie though we did that movie.
I don't like that movie. I don't really care for
that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But you know what, that movie came out at a
at a time. And if I had seen that movie
when it came out, I thought you were right exactly
exactly like it came out at the turn of the millennium.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yo, this is nineteen ninety nine, micaeh.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh, yeah, I'd have been walking around with a sword
and a hoodie calling myself. You know, it wouldn't be
Ghost Dog because like fuck dogs. But I don't know, man,
But yeah, if I've seen this when it came out, yeah,
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I'd be all about it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This is so it's like so funny because timing in
movies matters a lot, right, Like there's a lot of
times where people in the comments are like, now this movie, like,
you guys are wrong, this movie is a classic or whatever.
And it's not even that you're wrong, like you're not,
but it does matter when you see a movie, right,
because it imprints on you in your youth or at
a certain time, and you see, you literally just see
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the movie differently than other people. And there's no right
or wrong to that. Right, Like, it's not bad that
you saw it early. It's not bad as someone else
saw it late. But like when I saw Ghost Dog,
I was like mid thirties right at that point. Like again,
if I had seen Ghost Dog in nineteen ninety nine,
I would have been my first year of college. I
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loved it, Like I will, I want it. I'll be like, yo, dude,
Jude Takes, he's a fucking urban samurai. I'm an urban samurai. Nigga, No,
you're not right, Like I just thought it was cool, right,
I'd say for Mica, so I get it. I'm not
even mad. I mean, I don't think I'm a big
Jim jar Moush fan, to be honest, Like, I just
I just don't think I am. But I think also,
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I didn't watch a lot of his films when I
was younger, right, And I just and that's not like
a maturity thing, like I think his movies are immature.
I just don't think that it just appeals to me.
Now that could easily be proven wrong. I just yeah,
Ghost Dog was not for me. It wasn't that movie.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, it just at twenty years too late. Yeah, also
Rumbling the Bronx getting some love.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Like John David Washington is a bit of a nigga.
I love him for that, but like this list is wild,
Like he's.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Gotta be he's got to be our age, right because
like see, definitely that seems like a forty five year
old man's list of favorite movies.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
All right, let's see John David Washington is how old?
Oh yeah, he's born nineteen eighty four. He's just a
little bit younger than us, all right, so.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
He's like he's just he's a little older than a
little younger than Terrence. Yeah that makes sense that this
this list makes sense, right, But you better put Malcolm
xan right.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh yeah, you know your dad fuck you up for that.
I can't get out of here. But in fairness to him,
it is a great movie, like it is like it
is like, yeah, my dad's in it, but like it
is your dad channeled Malcolm x in Away that I've
that will never be repeated again, Like this period, I
mean that's a movie. You literally watched that movie and
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as good as Denzel Washington it is, and as accurate
as a criticism of him is, Like he's kind of
himself in every movie. That's the one movie he disappears
into that role. He completely disappears into the role. You're like, oh,
this is just how Malcolm X talks, and then you
see clips and you're like, oh, actually they did talk
a light like it's weird, but yeah, it's the one
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role where I totally forget, Like it feels like you're
watching the documentary in a lot of words.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Lashana Lynch hash Yeah, probably I've seen everything on her list. Yeah,
I love everything on her list, and it's uh, this
probably the blackest. This is probably the straight up blackest
like list in terms of like black movies. Yeah, waiting
to exhale the woman King, Loving Basketball.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I like she picked her movie she was in.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And uh and moon Light. Look, all these movies are
great for different reasons. I think my favorite, I think
the most well done of them is Moonlight, but I
think the one that I would probably watch the most
is probably Loving Basketball.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
We haven't done that.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
We haven't done that. We did we must have done
the other one, then yeah, that's the same movie. Yeah,
it's the same movie. Just replace music with basketball and
that that's it, which is fine, you know what I mean,
Like Volcano and Dante's Pete came out at the same time.
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Deep impact impact, Right, this is a solid list as
a solid list.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Look, I think Waiting Next Hail is one of those
films that is just it is. It's peak of its time, right,
Like black women needed to get that fucking message out
and they got it out in fucking spades in that
movie like they did, and it's great. It's got so
many memorable moments in it. Uh. I swore off leather
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vests with no h no shirt after that movie. I
just I was like, I'm not I'm not gonna wear
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
The woman King was just dope as fuck. Like it
just was like Black women were just kicking ass in
that movie. They all looked great. Leshana Lynch looked especially great.
Loving Basketball is a classic, right, like it's just this
and Moonlight Light was fucking amazing and just an amazing movie.
I'm mad that Barry Jenkins hasn't really done much since then,
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except for like a move fossa movie that, like, I
want to see him dig into some other ship because
that guy's got a real talent.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So yeah, apparently that Move Foster movie was better than
then people thought it would be.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, I'm not surprised it's good. I just don't care,
like that's my you know what I mean. It's like
I just kind of don't give a shit. I'll watch
it at some point when my daughter's like, I guess
I'll watch that after I've watched this other Disney movie
forty seven times. So yeah, so the solid list and
they're all black, black filmmakers, so I like it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
All right. Next up, next up Zuid Kravitz her Uh,
who made our directorial debut debut with Blank Twice, which
is a which is an excellent movie. Is that a
black movie? That a black movie?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
No? No, No, I mean I enjoy it, but it's
unfortunately it's not it's not a black movie.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah. I just want to talk about that movie because
like that movie was really good and like I want
people to watch it again.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
If ever there was a show women on women cinema,
that should be the.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, that should be that one. Yeah. Yeah. Paris
is Burning, the Vanishing a Woman under the Influence, the Killing,
Moonstruck film, and Louise and Midnight Cowboy. Now I've seen
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Moonstruck a very long time ago. Yeah, because it has
Academy Award winning actor Nicolas Cage in it, and and
Thelma and Louise I've seen.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Uh, yes, I've not seen The Killing. That's the Stanley
Kubrick film. It's a film in no wir so that
feels like something I would enjoy. Honestly, I've seen Thelma, Louise,
Midnight Cowboy. Trying to remember if I've actually seen it.
I've seen so many goddamn movies. M No, No, I've
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not seen this, So yeah, I mean I don't know.
A Woman under the Influence Like this is a This
is a good list of movies that, like, maybe you
have not heard of or seen, and so that's probably
good to add to your list. A Woman under the
Influences in nineteen seventy four American drama film written and
directed by John Savantes and starring his wife Gina Rowlands.
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Rowlands plays a housewife whose unusual behavioral lidst a conflict
with her blue collar husband, Peter fulk in her family.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Okay, so this these movies kind of makes sense to me,
you know, Zoid Kravitz. I you know, I hate labeling people,
but like I believe that Zoed Kravitz is like like
a feminist, right like and not like I don't say
that in a word, in a way that's likestic, right
like you know, femin nasazi Like no, like she's a femini.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
She believes in egal terry society.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
And and and you know, feminists tend to be very
open minded, right Like Midnight Cowboy is is like a
queer movie, Paris is Burning is a queer movie. Filming
Louise is a feminist movie. I'm presuming a Woman under
the Influence is a feminist movie like this, this, this,
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this seems to make sense for who this is.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, and if you're a budding director, the things that
you're influenced by are gonna be your top films, so.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Right exactly, because like look at Blink twice. Blink Twice
was an incredibly good, like feminist narrative.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, and I will always categorize. Yeah, I do kind
of want to review that movie and death that what
I'm saying. Man, we gotta figure out a way. I mean,
she's what so like that might be enough.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Black main characters black. I don't know, man, I want
to talk about that movie, all right, talk about that movie.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
All right in the comments. If you've seen Blink Twice
that came out what a year ago? Two years ago?
Let us know if you if you think that qualifies
to do on the show, and we'll we'll talk about
doing it, because if enough people wanted us to do it,
I think that's a that is a movie to get into. Like,
that's a really good movie to get into. Because Terrence
is also seen it and all three of us were
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talking offline light this is pretty good. Like I like it,
and I feel like if Tiara hasn't seen it, I
feel like I feel like she would enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Like I would love to get her reaction. I would
love to get her reaction to that movie.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, that's so Blink twice. Let us know in the comments.
You can leave comments on Spotify or on our YouTube
channel or wherever. I would love to hear from people
about that. Yeah, that's that that It's like the get Out.
It's what get Out was for black people. Blink Twice
is for women. Now I'm not saying they're to the
same quality or whatever, but narratively like they're they're pushing
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at the same they're.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Pushingramatically, submit thematically. Yeah, they're they're they're doing the same thing,
which is good. Quest Love one of the few people
from Philadelphia that I actually respect enough his uh, his
favorite films are The Beastie Boys, Anthology, Black Orpheus, The
Complete Monterey Pop Festival, Do the Right Thing, Gimme Shelter,
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and Bamboozled.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh, Bamboozled.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
People don't talk about Bamboozle when they talk about Spike
Lee movies, man, And you know, Bamboozled is Spike Lee
at his most like like indignant, like fuck you, like
I don't give right right, like this is this is
like this is like that radical Spike Lee that that
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that that white people are afraid of, you know what
I mean? Yeah, and again another movie that I really
really like.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I really enjoyed that film and that that That's an
interesting episode to go back and listen to because if
I recall, like Terrence was like he hadn't seen the
movie in a long time, but he was like he
did not care for the ending of it, like when
he saw it the first time, and you know, it
was like I don't know, like a decade before or
something like that, or however many years it came out
before we did it. And then going back and us
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talking there, he's like, you know, this is actually a
really good movie because like when you really sit down,
especially as you're older again, timing when you see a
movie really matters, Like you catch themes and you understand
sort of thematically, and you know narratively what certain things
mean and how they are meant to be presented versus
how they're presented, right if that makes sense, Like this
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thing is being pushed to your face, and if you
read it at face value, that's a very different thing
than I'm trying to send a message via this, right Like,
So I might be showing you it may appear that
this is being seen as a positive, but I'm actually
what I'm trying to tell you is like, don't do
this thing right like, And and I think Bamboozo has
a lot of that. Yeah, that's a that's a that's
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a very underrated Spike Lee movie in my opinion, very
much so. I mean this is all pretty heavily music oriented,
which that makes sense, yea makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Beastie Boys Anthology The Monterey Pop Festival and Gimme Shelter.
Those are the music based films, uh, you know, documentaries
and narrative. Yeah, it would make sense that the musician
is into movies about music.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And then he did that documentary that he won an
oscar for, and he won.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
An oscar for that was overshadowed because one of his
dumb Philadelphian compatriots decided that he wanted to make an
ass of himself.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, that was a you really kind of fucked quest
love on that because like I think he won you then,
and then the thing happened immediately after, like thanks man,
Thanks cool is the biggest night of my life. Appreciate God,
damn it. And now Will Smith is making terrible music.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Terrible Yeah. Yeah, well something something's wrong with that guy. Man,
Like he's he's going through what he's going through his
midlight crisis, man, Like not a good look. Weird. It's
weird how people's midlife crises like manifest. Right, your midlife
crisis manifest. Then I gotta get in tremendous shape because
I don't want to die. Right, my midlife crisis is
(30:09):
I gotta stay alive because I don't want to die.
I don't need to get in tremendous shape. It's too
late for all that I just want for me because
I'm lazy. I just don't want to die. And Will
Smith's mid life crisis is I like pretty girls. Girls. Yeah,
(30:30):
I like pretty girls, and I'm rapping about stuff that
doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Like, Nikko, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You're fifty five? Yo?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Fifty and you were never really a rapper. Like, if
we're being honest, like, yeah, he had Summertime. That's that's
your long standing hit. Every black person, don't care what
generation you in. You love that song. I love that
song still to this day. If you're listening to this
and you're my age, your parents and your grandparents love
that song. To shut the fuck up, knock it off
an lie, right, But like he was never like his
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music was just sort of an avenue at like an
early points like oh, parents just don't understand and stuff
like that. But he never got like super big because
of music. He kind of got on the scene and
then he did Fresh Prints and stuff like that, and
then people were like, oh, I love this guy. Like
this guy is awesome, he's funny. Everything else he can
you can do action movies now, all shit, no worries.
(31:28):
I don't know what's going on now, Like, knock this off.
Whatever this is, knock it off.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's trying to you know, he's trying to go back
to like you know, they say I'm soft. Yeah, more
like Microsoft.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
One of the worst bars I've ever heard in my
entire life.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
What are we doing? Yo? What are we not doing?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's something I would say. I'm not a fucking talented
musician at all, And I would say it as a
joke because that's sounds awful. Yeah, like that's a really
bad line. Yeah, you shouldn't have You shouldn't have laid
that on wax or whatever it is people do now.
That is just terrible. Like but that that video Pretty
(32:11):
Girls or whatever the fuck I can't listen to. I
saw like it would like it popped up on Instagram
or something. When I was scrolling through. I had to
turn it off after like thirty seconds because I was
getting secondhand embarrassment for a multi millionaire. I was like, yo,
I feel sorry for you, Like it was bad. It's
so cold.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So also, you know, with the shit that just happened,
we go with Shannon Sharp, maybe it's not cool for
a fifty five year old black man talking about he
liked pretty girls, you know, like it just yo. I
don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I guess at this point, who's the worst musician in
his family? Is it him or his wife? Because she
does heavy metal and that's terrible, by the way, metal
fucking terrible.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I've never heard her. I've never heard her music, so
I'm gonna plead. I'm gonnafleet it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, it's really bad. It's like it's it's really bad.
Like it's like it's one of those things where you go,
why are you doing this? Like you're rich, you don't
have to do this, Like it's it's horrible, Like it's
just really really bad. Yeah, God, I while you do that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
While you do that. Lee Daniels is up next, and
you know, Lee Daniels is like the the Pepsi to
Tyler Perry's coke, right, like they they do very like
similar movies. Some of his movies. I don't like. Some
of those movies. I like, some of them I don't like,
and some of them I just watch because like, you know,
(33:59):
like the fuck, like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
But his uh, when he was on the Criterion closet,
the movies he selected were Spartacus, The Piano, Do the
Right Thing, Claudine, Female Trouble, Quirell, Picking Up, Picking on
South Street, pick Up and a half, pick Up on
South Street, eight and a half, and Essential Felini. I've
(34:29):
only seen two of those, uh, the two movies that
we did on Black on Black Cinema. Do the Right Thing, Claudine,
I mean, look good, the right thing, like everybody's seen,
do the right thing, right. But but Claudine is very
very interesting because Claudine wasn't on my radar until you
brought it up as a show that as a as
(34:51):
a movie that we should do for the show. And
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. And you know,
the the brilliant and and like very sad thing about
that movie is that it is one relatable to today.
And that movie came out in nineteen seventy four and
(35:12):
it's still the same. The same issues that are in
that movie translate now.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, well, the system that was was created and the
systems that were broken because of what the federal government
was doing. Yeah, that shit just still exists. And people
are still dealing with the ramifications of that from the seventies. Yeah.
The name of her band, by the way, is uh,
Jada Piutt's band was Wicked Wisdom.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Is it spelled like is it?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's spelled spelled normally. There're no, there's not two x's
or anything stupid like that in it. M Yeah, she's gotta,
She's gotta. She's got a song called bleed all over
Me Stills we do heavy metal. Uh yeah, no, it's
she had a she had a like a fake name.
(36:06):
She had like a like a pen name. Uh yeah, yeah,
no plume if you.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Will, Yeah, like childish cambino.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Right, So she goes by Jada Korn when she's uh,
when she's when she's doing her whole metal thing. Uh so, yeah,
that's cool, it's it's it's good.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
All right. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna listen to it.
I'm not gonna listen to it. On the show, I
did that. I did that. When we recently did dens Pixels,
Terrence was talking about a little Wayne song that.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I heard your guy, I heard about your conversation. Oh
my god, my god, as I as I sold Brad
when I talked to him. I said, I don't listen
to I don't generally listen to Little Wayne, not his
newer music, because I don't really listen to I don't
like listening to people with CTE. Uh like I don't
(37:05):
really want to hear your ct music. That's fine, but yeah,
all right, Lee Daniels, I mean, this is a pretty,
this is a pretty. It's a pretty, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
A very it's it's a very eclectic mix, which again
is to be expected from a director. You know, you're
a director, you probably you have to see a ton
of different types of movies. Uh, if you want to
if you want to be able to like effectively create art, right,
you need to be inspired and and you can't just
(37:38):
look at one thing and then just try to, you know,
ape it like you This is why, this is why
people need to travel. If you can, right or if
you can't, like be curious and look at other cultures,
look at other countries. See what hell see what see
what black people do in other countries? Right, like, because
it's it's different, but it's the same, right, And and
(38:00):
then just kind of branch out and and be a
little more well rounded. I think that would help out
literally everyone, and.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
By and by the way, is I'm not I'm not
asking this to like be a dick is lead Daniels gang.
I don't know if he is.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I think I think he is. I think he is
an out and proud gay person.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yes, okay. Now the only reason I ask is I'm
looking at the list, and then I realized I was, like,
where do I know Female Trouble from? That's a John
Waterson and that's uh, the starring Divine right, So like, look,
we're from Baltimore. So if you don't know John Water,
John Waters is a fucking institution in Baltimore, right, And
you know obviously, obviously if you've ever seen John Waters
(38:43):
or watching John Waters movie, John Waters is as gay
as Elton John is.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, He's a flamboyantly gay, right.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Maybe gay or than Elton John and Elton John is
Elton John, right, who is the king of British gays.
I think I think that's his official title at least
it should be. So like for one of his favorite
movies to be Female Trouble, that's kind of interesting, right,
like because I don't I don't think of Lee Daniel's
films as being necessarily coded as as queer oriented, which
(39:15):
is interesting, right, which he doesn't have to be right, Like,
you don't have to like put yourself in that box.
I'm not saying that, but just looking at this list,
it's interesting how many of those things are obviously very
you know, like very straightforward sort of gay experiences. But also,
I mean, do the Right Thing and Claudine are very
(39:36):
straightforward black experiences. So again, when people like put gay
people in one box and then black people in a
different box, it's like, but there are people who live
in both of those boxes. It doesn't make sense. Right,
gay is not a national so it is just it's
kind of interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that about him,
(39:58):
but like in reading this, I'm like that feel it
feels like that's probably true. So yeah, a lot of
movies I haven't seen either, so that's good.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Gina Prince Bythewood, you would you would know her from
her directorial films such as Loving Basketball, Secret Life of Bees,
Beyond the Lights, The Woman King, The Old Guard, a
bunch of movies that that you're like, hey, hey, I
like that, but like you never but you don't know
(40:29):
anything about like who directed it she directed? She listed
a handful of her favorites. Devil in a Blue Dress.
We have to do it on the show. We have
to do that.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Have you ever seen that movie? No, there's one scene
in that movie that you will not forget, I assure you.
And anyone who's ever seen that movie already is laughing
because they already know that's a that's a fucking dope movie. Man,
that's a super dope movie. And it's a neo norm starring.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh well, I'm looking at the I'm looking at the poster. Yep,
all right, it's a dip. I see a devil in
a blue dress. Yeah, that's a great scene in that movie. Yeah,
that movie is gonna make me mad. I feel it.
That movie's gonna make me mad.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, there's a scene that won't make you mad.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
What excellent?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's very very good. Yeah, that's that's a good choice.
Claudine again is on the list.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
A Dry White Season in the Mood for Love broadcast news,
Fish Tank, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, uh, and
An Actor's Revenge broadcast news. I don't know this movie.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh this is a James Brooks movie. Okay, okay, all right,
I've never seen this At first, I thought I was
I was thinking of the movie Broadcast, which is like
a super classic film, which is also excellent if you've
never seen it. I've never seen Fish Tank, Fear and
Loathing Las Vegas. I've definitely seen. That's a wild fucking movie.
(42:01):
It's it's just mania. It's like drug drug induced mania
and an actor's revenge. I don't know that one either.
It's a good list, it's a really good list.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Next up, Carrie Washington.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Ah, hell, yeah, Kerry Washington coming in.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
That's right, Carry Washington coming in with Jay's favorite movie
as number one. When Harry met Sally excellent, This is
not helping those claims of you being a white guy
for people.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's Merry Washington eating popcorn and drinking out of Harry
long stem wine glasses. That's right.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
When Harry met Sally. Malcolm x Hoop Dreams and Django
Unchained that yeah, was also in that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know what movie is really good? The one I'm in.
Fuck you guys.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You know what, though, my wife really loves Django Unchained
because for different reasons. It's, you know, my wife can
be a girly girl sometimes, and that is a movie
about a man who is a slave, right, who overcomes
all that bullshit to save his wife. And it's it's
(43:23):
like a it's like an incredibly violent, you know, racist
love story. And and so I I see it, right,
I see it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
So she's your Broomhilda? Is that that nap? Yes, is
a good list. Look when Harry met Sally. I don't
want to say underrated. It's won so many awards.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah it's I mean it's a it's it's got one
of those famous scenes in cinema, like The Godfather.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Highly underrated guys. But I think a lot of people
from especially from a younger perspective, have never seen that movie. Look,
it is one of for like I think of it. Yeah,
I was thinking about this the other day and not
about this movie, but it brings up the topic. Like
(44:16):
I realize that everything I think, not everything, but a
lot of the way I see the world. And I'm
sure it is just true for you and probably almost everybody.
The way in which you see the world is so
heavily dictated by the art that you watched as a kid,
right and right, Like, because I think a lot of
people just think like they view art, or they don't
(44:36):
even think about movies as art, but like they view
art and they just oh, I like that and that's it.
Like no, but art actually has the ability to imprint
on you, which is a really wild, you know thing
to think about. But everything I think about like fairness
and you know, like doing the right thing for people
(44:56):
who don't have the ability to do those things for themselves,
and like that weird sort of like superhero complex that
a lot of people our age have of like you
gotta say people, you gotta try that yo. That's all
built out of like Rambow and Rocky and all of this,
Like it's all built out of those things. Right, Like
they're incredibly violent movies. I recognize that, But that sense
(45:19):
of like that position that we like mentally have put
ourselves in as a generation all stems from that shit.
And like when Harry met Sally is like for me,
that idea that like that red pill shit doesn't make
sense to me because of things like this, Because like
that entire premise, if you've never seen that movie, is
(45:40):
a man and a woman meet and like they drive
together to go to college. Right, Like Harry picks this
woman up, he's friends with her her, he's like girlfriend
or he's a boyfriend with her friend, and he's like,
I'm going to this NYU or whatever. I can drop
you off. And they drive in a car and they
have this conversation and the crux of the conversation is
(46:00):
can men and women be friends? Harry doesn't think so.
This is them going off to college. She's like, yeah,
I think so. And then they kind of like dig
each other, but nothing happens, and they keep running into
each other at different courses of their life right and
over the course of their life they end up falling
for each other life. Sometimes he's single, sometimes she's single.
You know so and so, And in the end, the
(46:23):
whole point of that movie is yes they can be
But this whole idea of like when you meet because
he is such a great line at the end. He's like,
when you meet somebody and you realize you want to
be with them for the rest of your life, you
want the rest of your life to start right now,
it doesn't. It's like, it's not because I'm drunk, it's
not because it's New Year's Eve, It's because I love you.
And it's just such a fucking well written scene. That
(46:45):
entire movie is fucking pitch perfect. Nora Efron, who wrote
that movie like will go down as one of the
greatest writers of all time.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
And Rob Reiner meet head from All in the Family,
directed the shit out.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Of that movie.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
He did, he did. That's it. It's an excellent movie.
It really is. If you've never seen it, it is
a perfect In my opinion, it is as close to
a perfect film as like a few movies. For me,
it's just fucking perfect.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
It just doesn't It's kind of the prototype for the
romantic comedy it is in in you know, in modern
modern times. Right, Oh, yeah, you know it. It's it's uh,
I haven't seen it in a really really long time,
but yeah, it's an excellent movie. Man. It's like it's
(47:32):
it's it's up there man. Yeah. Uh. Nora from won
an Oscar for.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
That in fact, yeah, yeah, I mean it's like that
Sleepless in Seattle. Uh, you got male, all of those
they all they all pull, they all pull from that movie. Yeah,
they all do. Yeah, Malcolm XA as we said, fucking excellent.
Hoop Dreams I've never seen. I don't really care about sports.
And then obviously Micah's wife's favorite movie, Jangle and not
(48:00):
a favorite, but.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I mean it's so good, like it.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Is good, it is good, it is good. Stop saying
nigga all the time though, just he's like, no, I'm
not right exactly, but you know, at the same time,
like I'm a hypocrite because like dead nigger storage is
like those three words in that order is just hilarious
(48:25):
to me.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
It's like, all right, you should be saying it. Let's
Samuel Jackson saying like, don't do that right, Like, okay,
I'll give you that, but that's it.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Last up, one of my favorite people, Gabrielle Union. I
like her a lot, Like I I am in love
with Gabrielle Union. She's one of those uh she's one
of those people that I think is beautiful on the
inside and out. Her Her favorite films are Greece Waiting
(48:58):
to Exhale Life, Boomerang, and Talladega Knight's The Ballad of
Ricky Bobby.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You know what, sometimes you just like a stupid ass movie.
There's another wrong, but look this is why. But look,
this is why.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Gabrielle Union is Gambrielle Union, Right, you know, she's got
it's it's she's got the one of these things is
not like the other things are not like the other.
But Greece is is I can I get people liking
Greece And I hate musicals, but I like greas and
(49:35):
and you know, waiting to exail on Life, which again
is another underrated movie.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Life is a super underrated movie.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
I slept on that movie, man, I really slept on
that movie. That first time I watched it was when
we did it on the show. And yeah, that was
a really good movie. And Boomerang is boomerang, right, Like
that's that that's a that's an institution in like black film.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
It's like when Harry met Sale is a prototype you
know for all those other romantic comedies. Boomerang was a
prototype for nineties black movies. It was it was the peak,
like black people doing fucking awesome, being like doing awesome shit,
being awesome. Everybody looked good. It was the peak, like
(50:19):
nothing is better than listen listening to interviews with Eddie
Murphy where he's like the studio was like, can we
even make this movie? Is this believable? It's like, yeah,
it's fucking believable. And that movie made a ship ton
of money. Yeah, black people wanted to see themselves.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeahs as marketing executives. Yeah, why the fuck?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Not right, Like we sell shit like the fuck and
it's just And also it's a good it's a good movie.
It's a good movie from the perspective of like the
Roman or like the you know, sort of relationship commentary
and stuff like that, Like all of that's there, man.
And also it's fucking hilarious, Like that's a movie I
(51:00):
could turn on right now and still laugh as much
as I did when I first saw it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah that That movie had a forty two million dollar budget.
It made one hundred and thirty one million. Not bad.
I'm actually surprised they didn't make a sequel, to be honest, I'm.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Really well, don't say that too loud at this point.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, I don't need it.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't
need a sequel at this point.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Isn't there a TV show or some shit?
Speaker 3 (51:25):
I know there was a network called Boomerang, but I
don't I don't think there was an actual like TV show.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Oh okay, I thought there was, like they tried to
make like a TV version or a sequel as something
I thought.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
So I mean maybe maybe I don't. I don't want that.
I don't want it unless it's good. Yeah I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah I'm good. Oh no, hold on, is that is
this it? No? Might okay, yeah, so there you go.
Uh yeah, Telldega Nights is fine. This is a silly ass.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Movie, but that's fine. So yeah, okay, So yeah that's it.
That's you know, I don't know something. If you were
a movie podcast, we talk about movies. I figured, you know,
let's get let's see what movie stars and directors what
their favorite movies are. If I were to do the
if I were to do the typical YouTube thing, tell
(52:20):
us where your favorite movies are in the comments below,
I drive up all that engagement, and yeah we might,
we might have to. I don't know if I have
I can't. I couldn't rattle off a list of favorite movies.
Like right off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I don't like when Harry Matt Sally is my favorite movie.
After that, it's just like it's it's not in any
any particular order, Like I really like I really love
Kill Bill Part one, like I just do. I just
think it's great. I am a huge fan of Eternal
(52:59):
Sunshine the Spotless Mind. I think it's one of the
one of the best scene transition films of all time.
And it's just again I'm a I'm a fan of romance.
I'm a bit of a cuck. I guess it is
the term that kids would use. But I also, like,
you know, I'm like, you know, I'm a child of
the nineties, Like I like Predator and I was watching
(53:22):
Rambo First Blood Part two the other day, which is insane.
So I like so many different types of things, Like
I don't. I try not to box myself into any genre.
I mean I've I've even tried to get into horror,
and I'm a fucking coward, you know.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
So yeah, once you watch, once you watch enough of it,
it's like, all right, this is just silly.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
But I you know what I like. I like this
sort of as somebody referred to it, like mid budget,
high concept horror like Companion and shit like that. Like
I like, I like stuff like that. That's that's kind
of like a social commentary, but like people still getting murked,
like I enjoy that. That's kind of yeah. Yeah, so
I'm kind of all over the place. Yeah, but I'll
(54:06):
do the classic YouTube thing. Yeah, put your put your
favorite movies in the comments. Help us out. Come on, guys,
and also, don't forget let us know if you want
us to do Blink twice, we'll make that shit happen
for real. Like I dude, I want to do that
movie so bad.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
I want to talk about that movie. Yeah, it's a
really good movie.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
All right. Look, a lot of people don't know this
inside Baseball here. Micah took night quote right before we
went on air, so we did. We were able to
get it done before he passed right the fuck out.
So that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, yep, we we but we're running out. We're counting down,
running out of guess.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
So even though this is coming out the week of
June twenty fourth, this episode, we are going to take
a bit of a break and we will be back
with All Night and a Day, or all day and
a night rather on the week of July fourteenth. So yes,
we're we're putting this out this week, but we're gonna
(55:07):
be off the following the following two weeks, and then
we'll put out this episode. Okay, all right, so we'll
see you guys for episode two eighty five the week
of July fourteenth, Later see you yeah yeah yeah
I have no idea less about the villain right now,
don't find the last down, call me change.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let's wrapper chase on it.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello and welcome to a brand new preview episode for
Black and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm here
with my co host Micah.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, guys, we are back. This is a preview
for episode two eighty five, All Day and a Night.
This is the twenty twenty American crime drama film written
directed by Joe Robert Cole, stars Jeffrey Wright, Ashton Sanders,
and Yah Yah Abdulah. Matein the Second basically is about
(00:47):
an aspiring, aspiring rapper who ends up in prison like
his dad isn't ends up in prison, and he's kind
of raising this kind of not so great world. Then
he ends up doing some shit that he probab shouldnt
and he also ends up in prison, and right before
he goes in, his girlfriend lets him know that she
was pregnant, and so it's sort of a generational kind
(01:09):
of conversation of like trying not to repeat sense of
the father type of thing. It looks very good. So
this is on Netflix, so you can check this out.
It came out again twenty twenty. So, I mean, all
three of the major players in this movie are pretty
great actors. So I am looking forward to it the
movie that we are or excuse me. The random topic
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this week is celebrities Black celebrities talking about their favorite
their favorite movies of all time. Not just black movies,
by the way, but just their favorite movies of all times.
So this is kind of interesting. It's a selection of
black actors, directors, and artists talking about their sort of
(01:51):
I would assume stuff from from their youth and what
have you, So it'll be interesting. We'll talk about the
movies that they like, give our thoughts on it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Taken away. Yeah. This article is courtesy of The Root.
Shout out to The Root and Chanel Janee for for
the article.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It starts with Ryan Coogan, Everybody's new favorite director. He
was recently on an episode of Closet Picks for the
Criterion Collection, and he listed his favorite films as Seven Samurai, Thief,
Late Spring, Malcolm X, and Love Jones. This is an
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incredibly eclectic group of films. The only one I'm not
familiar with is Late Spring. Have You Have You?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So? It's it's by a Japanese director, because I will
actually watched that because I think I said this to you,
actually that yeah, that clip, I've not seen.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Thief.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I've not seen Late Spring, So Late Spring is by
a Japanese director. Like I started after I watched this,
I actually created a list of like movies that I,
you know, sort of classic movies or the things I
haven't seen that you know, people that I trust with
films have recommended, and I actually put Thief in Late
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Spring on there. The Thief is by Michael Mann. Apparently
that's very very good as well. According to Coogler, Look,
the guy knows movies, and if you've never watched him
talk about film, it's actually really it's a treat because
like he's not just like yeah, I like this movie,
Like he can break down everything about the history of
those directors and stuff. It's awesome to listen to him
talk about film.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Really, it's it's it's really interesting to listen to anybody
talk about anything that they are knowledgeable and passionate about. Right,
I don't know music, but I'll listen to like Anthony
Fantano talk about music because he makes it interesting. Right,
I don't know. Look, I like movies. But I am
not a film student, right, I don't exactly, you know,
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I just really enjoy them. So I can listen to
Ryan Coogler talk about film, the medium and the actual
like physical film all day. He did he did a
little special thing with Kodak where he broke down the
different types of like film, like the stuff that you
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actually shoot movies on. And it was like a half
an hour or something like that. And I watched the
whole thing because he just he is so into it
that it makes you want to get into it. Yeah,
and he's not. He doesn't seem like the type of
person that is like he seems like he might be
(04:48):
kind of stand office in public, but like once you
get him going on something, he's just like, well yo,
I mean but like look at this.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, yes, No, he's got a real nerd. He's got
her own nerd quality. When it comes back to he's
a big dork.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He's a movie dork, right and and uh, and I
love it. Look, this is list. This is a great
list and makes sense for Ryan Coogler from what little
I know of him. Right, you can you can see
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throughout his filmography the stuff that these movies kind of
deal with right, like, Love Jones is a we did
love Jones, didn't we? Yes? I think we really love
Jones and Love Jones is like one of the classic,
like contemporary black love stories. He's one of the best
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by far. Yeah, Malcolm X is I mean Malcolm X
is Malcolm Max right, Like, I don't I don't know
what else to say about it. Michael Mann is an
incredible director. Yes, like it's Kurosawa is? I mean? Everybody
rips off Kirosawa? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right, it's just like the goat. Hey, I'm gonna I'm
gonna make a samurai film. Really, Gee? What style will
it be in? He I'm gonna make a samurai video game? Really,
what style is it going to be in?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right? Hey, I'm just gonna if you're Quentin Tarantino, Hey,
I'm just gonna make a movie. Oh okay, where are
you pulling your inspiration from? Right? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Who the fuck else am I gonna pull it from?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, this is an incredibly interesting list, not surprising, this
is an incredibly interesting person. One of my favorite singers
is Janelle Monnet, and during her episode of Closet Pics,
she she said that her favorite films were specifically horror related,
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the the Blob, I've never seen the blog Erase her
Head in nineteen eighty four, Brazil and Night of the
Living Dead. Yeah, hell, look, that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Is not a list I would assume of Tanel Monet
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's it is, and it isn't right because like she's
another one who is very much a very artsy nerdy person, right,
Like she's been through her phases right where you know,
early in her career she was you know, the arc android, right,
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and she's kind of transitioned into this woman who is
like in control of herself and her body and her
sexuality and stuff like that. And yeah, and so yeah,
I can see it, but it's not the thing that
I would think of off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I mean she's very much she's very much an
art kid. So it like like Brazil in eraser Head
being there, that definitely makes sense. Look, I've been wanting
to do Night of the Living Dead.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was about to say, like, if if we were
to do if we were to do a movie that
is not like a traditional like black movie, and how
you know, we loosely define it not a living dead?
Would be it? Not a living Dead has not a
Living Dead. If you haven't seen it, you should watch
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it because it's it's it's there. And I don't know
if like I don't know if George abram Merrow like
meant to have these like these like black like how
do you say yeah themes or or but there's a
(08:58):
black character in it that you immediately it's it's the
black experience, ben is the black experience in this country?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, I mean like from my from my if I
recall like interviews with him now, he kind of meant
it like it wasn't it wasn't happened since he kind
of did that on purpose, which makes the film, which
makes the film that much more interesting, right, And it's
you know you should see right, And it is a
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it is a non traditional It would be a very
much a non traditional movie for us. And maybe we
save that for Halloween because it is I mean, they
didn't have black heroes in horror movies. They barely have
that now, like they just.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They don't have black people in horror movies, right, Like
this whole trope of like oh the black guy dies
first is like ain't no black people in horror movies? Yo?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like first when when are we in it?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Right? If we are in it, we die usually right,
ninety nine point nine percent of the time we die,
but but very rarely.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Is it first? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So and yeah, washingight a living dead. Matter of fact,
that's a really good idea. We should do that in October,
if we remember, Yeah, if if I recall, Romero wasn't
unintentionally making that, like it actually was kind.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Of on purpose. That was not like the main purpose,
but like the choices he made were like yeah, no, obviously,
like what the fuck? Ao ed a berry from the bear.
Her list is High and Low, which we'll get into, charade, bottle, Rocket, Thief,
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thief again, interesting, the Funeral to Sleep with Anger, and
EO MOFE, which is subtitled this is My Desire. I
guess it's a translation. I've not seen any of these movies,
so I know High and Low is that's a Kirasawa
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movie that the new Spike Lee, right, so I'm I
do want to actually watch that ahead ahead of that
the Spike Lee movie coming out, But I honestly don't know.
I've not seen any of these lists on her list.
So that's again that I will add these two things
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that I want to.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Watch again Thief there again? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like, all right, well have you seen have you seen
Thief before?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
No? I haven't. I haven't, And I haven't seen Bottle Rocket,
which is weird. I thought I've seen most Wes Anderson films,
but I have not seen Bottle Rocket.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
This is a super early Yeah, this is a super
early film.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
This is this is his first feature.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah. But you know what she's also, she's she She
strikes me as as an art kid in a lot
of ways. So I'm I shouldn't be surprised by this
one either, to be honest, But no.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. She's she's very much.
I remember her episode of Saturday Night Live. Look, I
know you guys don't like Saturday Night Live, but you
gotta watch her episode. Her episode. Her episode is fantastic,
and because she came in there to play right, like,
she gets what old school, not hyper snarky political Saturday
(12:36):
Night Live is. It's just she's she's being super goofy
in that episode. It's really really well done, excellent.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Now I like her a lot. I think her career
is I mean, it's fucking taking off, to say the least.
I was trying to see where she went to school. Yeah,
I mean she went to NYU, which makes sense. She
has a major injury writing. Oh she was an upright
citizens Brigade. Okay, yeah, she's hilarious. That makes sense. She
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was an intern there, so okay, that makes sense. But yeah,
that's a that's a good list. That's a good list
of things. A lot of stuff I've never heard. Cynthia Arevo.
Her list is The Devil Wears Prada, Miss Harris goes
to Paris, Chuck a lot, and Eve's by you. I've
never I've never seen Miss Harris goes to Paris, but
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I've seen all the others. There's a good list. That's
a good list. What of those have you have you
seen or not seen?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I've not seen Miss Harris goes to Paris. I've seen,
but don't get I mean it was which Now she
doesn't say which version, right, because there's that movie has
been made like a million times, so who knows.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Hopefully it's not the one with like Johnny Depp.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
That's the one I saw, and it's not it wasn't
you know, it wasn't for me. I've not seen the
Double Ways product either, I hear that's a pretty great movie.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's pretty good. I mean it's it's fucking Meryl Streep.
Like she, as the quote goes from Modern Family, if
Meryl Street wanted to play Batman, she would be perfect
for the role. Like she's just really good at everything,
Like she just does. Meryl Streep is the white Viola Davis,
like she just does.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean you put either one of them in a movie,
I'm like, what is it about? Who gives a shit?
I'll watch it. They're both incredibly talented. Yeah, Chocolattis I
saw looking at this list of when I saw the
nineteen eighty eight film, I believe I think that's the
one I saw. And Eased by You we've done on
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the show, which is excellent. That's an excellent movie.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, this is a good list. It is a very
good list.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
H nothing like too too crazy, but I mean Eased
by You is kind of a fucked up movie in
the end, but it's that's a good movie. I really
enjoyed that episode.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Washington's here's a very modern list for the uh you
know which I'm I'm a little surprised, uh given given
his lineage, but his favorite films from the Criterion closet
are Menace to Society, which you know, I mean faces,
(15:34):
Rumble in the Bronx, uh do we but Malcolm X
and Ghost Dog where the Samurai people.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
We don't really like that movie though we did that movie.
I don't like that movie. I don't really care for
that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But you know what, that movie came out at a
at a time. And if I had seen that movie
when it came out, I thought you were right exactly
exactly like it came out at the turn of the millennium.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yo, this is nineteen ninety nine, micaeh.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh, yeah, I'd have been walking around with a sword
and a hoodie calling myself. You know, it wouldn't be
Ghost Dog because like fuck dogs. But I don't know, man,
But yeah, if I've seen this when it came out, yeah,
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I'd be all about it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This is so it's like so funny because timing in
movies matters a lot, right, Like there's a lot of
times where people in the comments are like, now this movie, like,
you guys are wrong, this movie is a classic or whatever.
And it's not even that you're wrong, like you're not,
but it does matter when you see a movie, right,
because it imprints on you in your youth or at
a certain time, and you see, you literally just see
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the movie differently than other people. And there's no right
or wrong to that. Right, Like, it's not bad that
you saw it early. It's not bad as someone else
saw it late. But like when I saw Ghost Dog,
I was like mid thirties right at that point. Like again,
if I had seen Ghost Dog in nineteen ninety nine,
I would have been my first year of college. I
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loved it, Like I will, I want it. I'll be like, yo, dude,
Jude Takes, he's a fucking urban samurai. I'm an urban samurai. Nigga, No,
you're not right, Like I just thought it was cool, right,
I'd say for Mica, so I get it. I'm not
even mad. I mean, I don't think I'm a big
Jim jar Moush fan, to be honest, Like, I just
I just don't think I am. But I think also,
(17:40):
I didn't watch a lot of his films when I
was younger, right, And I just and that's not like
a maturity thing, like I think his movies are immature.
I just don't think that it just appeals to me.
Now that could easily be proven wrong. I just yeah,
Ghost Dog was not for me. It wasn't that movie.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, it just at twenty years too late. Yeah, also
Rumbling the Bronx getting some love.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Like John David Washington is a bit of a nigga.
I love him for that, but like this list is wild,
Like he's.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Gotta be he's got to be our age, right because
like see, definitely that seems like a forty five year
old man's list of favorite movies.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
All right, let's see John David Washington is how old?
Oh yeah, he's born nineteen eighty four. He's just a
little bit younger than us, all right, so.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
He's like he's just he's a little older than a
little younger than Terrence. Yeah that makes sense that this
this list makes sense, right, But you better put Malcolm
xan right.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh yeah, you know your dad fuck you up for that.
I can't get out of here. But in fairness to him,
it is a great movie, like it is like it
is like, yeah, my dad's in it, but like it
is your dad channeled Malcolm x in Away that I've
that will never be repeated again, Like this period, I
mean that's a movie. You literally watched that movie and
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as good as Denzel Washington it is, and as accurate
as a criticism of him is, Like he's kind of
himself in every movie. That's the one movie he disappears
into that role. He completely disappears into the role. You're like, oh,
this is just how Malcolm X talks, and then you
see clips and you're like, oh, actually they did talk
a light like it's weird, but yeah, it's the one
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role where I totally forget, Like it feels like you're
watching the documentary in a lot of words.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Lashana Lynch hash Yeah, probably I've seen everything on her list. Yeah,
I love everything on her list, and it's uh, this
probably the blackest. This is probably the straight up blackest
like list in terms of like black movies. Yeah, waiting
to exhale the woman King, Loving Basketball.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I like she picked her movie she was in.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And uh and moon Light. Look, all these movies are
great for different reasons. I think my favorite, I think
the most well done of them is Moonlight, but I
think the one that I would probably watch the most
is probably Loving Basketball.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
We haven't done that.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
We haven't done that. We did we must have done
the other one, then yeah, that's the same movie. Yeah,
it's the same movie. Just replace music with basketball and
that that's it, which is fine, you know what I mean,
Like Volcano and Dante's Pete came out at the same time.
(20:44):
Deep impact impact, Right, this is a solid list as
a solid list.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Look, I think Waiting Next Hail is one of those
films that is just it is. It's peak of its time, right,
Like black women needed to get that fucking message out
and they got it out in fucking spades in that
movie like they did, and it's great. It's got so
many memorable moments in it. Uh. I swore off leather
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vests with no h no shirt after that movie. I
just I was like, I'm not I'm not gonna wear
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
The woman King was just dope as fuck. Like it
just was like Black women were just kicking ass in
that movie. They all looked great. Leshana Lynch looked especially great.
Loving Basketball is a classic, right, like it's just this
and Moonlight Light was fucking amazing and just an amazing movie.
I'm mad that Barry Jenkins hasn't really done much since then,
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except for like a move fossa movie that, like, I
want to see him dig into some other ship because
that guy's got a real talent.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So yeah, apparently that Move Foster movie was better than
then people thought it would be.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, I'm not surprised it's good. I just don't care,
like that's my you know what I mean. It's like
I just kind of don't give a shit. I'll watch
it at some point when my daughter's like, I guess
I'll watch that after I've watched this other Disney movie
forty seven times. So yeah, so the solid list and
they're all black, black filmmakers, so I like it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
All right. Next up, next up Zuid Kravitz her Uh,
who made our directorial debut debut with Blank Twice, which
is a which is an excellent movie. Is that a
black movie? That a black movie?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
No? No, No, I mean I enjoy it, but it's
unfortunately it's not it's not a black movie.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah. I just want to talk about that movie because
like that movie was really good and like I want
people to watch it again.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
If ever there was a show women on women cinema,
that should be the.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, that should be that one. Yeah. Yeah. Paris
is Burning, the Vanishing a Woman under the Influence, the Killing,
Moonstruck film, and Louise and Midnight Cowboy. Now I've seen
(23:09):
Moonstruck a very long time ago. Yeah, because it has
Academy Award winning actor Nicolas Cage in it, and and
Thelma and Louise I've seen.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Uh, yes, I've not seen The Killing. That's the Stanley
Kubrick film. It's a film in no wir so that
feels like something I would enjoy. Honestly, I've seen Thelma, Louise,
Midnight Cowboy. Trying to remember if I've actually seen it.
I've seen so many goddamn movies. M No, No, I've
(23:46):
not seen this, So yeah, I mean I don't know.
A Woman under the Influence Like this is a This
is a good list of movies that, like, maybe you
have not heard of or seen, and so that's probably
good to add to your list. A Woman under the
Influences in nineteen seventy four American drama film written and
directed by John Savantes and starring his wife Gina Rowlands.
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Rowlands plays a housewife whose unusual behavioral lidst a conflict
with her blue collar husband, Peter fulk in her family.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Okay, so this these movies kind of makes sense to me,
you know, Zoid Kravitz. I you know, I hate labeling people,
but like I believe that Zoed Kravitz is like like
a feminist, right like and not like I don't say
that in a word, in a way that's likestic, right
like you know, femin nasazi Like no, like she's a femini.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
She believes in egal terry society.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
And and and you know, feminists tend to be very
open minded, right Like Midnight Cowboy is is like a
queer movie, Paris is Burning is a queer movie. Filming
Louise is a feminist movie. I'm presuming a Woman under
the Influence is a feminist movie like this, this, this,
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this seems to make sense for who this is.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, and if you're a budding director, the things that
you're influenced by are gonna be your top films, so.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Right exactly, because like look at Blink twice. Blink Twice
was an incredibly good, like feminist narrative.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, and I will always categorize. Yeah, I do kind
of want to review that movie and death that what
I'm saying. Man, we gotta figure out a way. I mean,
she's what so like that might be enough.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Black main characters black. I don't know, man, I want
to talk about that movie, all right, talk about that movie.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
All right in the comments. If you've seen Blink Twice
that came out what a year ago? Two years ago?
Let us know if you if you think that qualifies
to do on the show, and we'll we'll talk about
doing it, because if enough people wanted us to do it,
I think that's a that is a movie to get into. Like,
that's a really good movie to get into. Because Terrence
is also seen it and all three of us were
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talking offline light this is pretty good. Like I like it,
and I feel like if Tiara hasn't seen it, I
feel like I feel like she would enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Like I would love to get her reaction. I would
love to get her reaction to that movie.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, that's so Blink twice. Let us know in the comments.
You can leave comments on Spotify or on our YouTube
channel or wherever. I would love to hear from people
about that. Yeah, that's that that It's like the get Out.
It's what get Out was for black people. Blink Twice
is for women. Now I'm not saying they're to the
same quality or whatever, but narratively like they're they're pushing
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at the same they're.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Pushingramatically, submit thematically. Yeah, they're they're they're doing the same thing,
which is good. Quest Love one of the few people
from Philadelphia that I actually respect enough his uh, his
favorite films are The Beastie Boys, Anthology, Black Orpheus, The
Complete Monterey Pop Festival, Do the Right Thing, Gimme Shelter,
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and Bamboozled.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh, Bamboozled.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
People don't talk about Bamboozle when they talk about Spike
Lee movies, man, And you know, Bamboozled is Spike Lee
at his most like like indignant, like fuck you, like
I don't give right right, like this is this is
like this is like that radical Spike Lee that that
(27:30):
that that white people are afraid of, you know what
I mean? Yeah, and again another movie that I really
really like.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I really enjoyed that film and that that That's an
interesting episode to go back and listen to because if
I recall, like Terrence was like he hadn't seen the
movie in a long time, but he was like he
did not care for the ending of it, like when
he saw it the first time, and you know, it
was like I don't know, like a decade before or
something like that, or however many years it came out
before we did it. And then going back and us
(27:59):
talking there, he's like, you know, this is actually a
really good movie because like when you really sit down,
especially as you're older again, timing when you see a
movie really matters, Like you catch themes and you understand
sort of thematically, and you know narratively what certain things
mean and how they are meant to be presented versus
how they're presented, right if that makes sense, Like this
(28:21):
thing is being pushed to your face, and if you
read it at face value, that's a very different thing
than I'm trying to send a message via this, right Like,
So I might be showing you it may appear that
this is being seen as a positive, but I'm actually
what I'm trying to tell you is like, don't do
this thing right like, And and I think Bamboozo has
a lot of that. Yeah, that's a that's a that's
(28:42):
a very underrated Spike Lee movie in my opinion, very
much so. I mean this is all pretty heavily music oriented,
which that makes sense, yea makes sense.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Beastie Boys Anthology The Monterey Pop Festival and Gimme Shelter.
Those are the music based films, uh, you know, documentaries
and narrative. Yeah, it would make sense that the musician
is into movies about music.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And then he did that documentary that he won an
oscar for, and he won.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
An oscar for that was overshadowed because one of his
dumb Philadelphian compatriots decided that he wanted to make an
ass of himself.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, that was a you really kind of fucked quest
love on that because like I think he won you then,
and then the thing happened immediately after, like thanks man,
Thanks cool is the biggest night of my life. Appreciate God,
damn it. And now Will Smith is making terrible music.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Terrible Yeah. Yeah, well something something's wrong with that guy. Man,
Like he's he's going through what he's going through his
midlight crisis, man, Like not a good look. Weird. It's
weird how people's midlife crises like manifest. Right, your midlife
crisis manifest. Then I gotta get in tremendous shape because
I don't want to die. Right, my midlife crisis is
(30:09):
I gotta stay alive because I don't want to die.
I don't need to get in tremendous shape. It's too
late for all that I just want for me because
I'm lazy. I just don't want to die. And Will
Smith's mid life crisis is I like pretty girls. Girls. Yeah,
(30:30):
I like pretty girls, and I'm rapping about stuff that
doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Like, Nikko, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You're fifty five? Yo?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Fifty and you were never really a rapper. Like, if
we're being honest, like, yeah, he had Summertime. That's that's
your long standing hit. Every black person, don't care what
generation you in. You love that song. I love that
song still to this day. If you're listening to this
and you're my age, your parents and your grandparents love
that song. To shut the fuck up, knock it off
an lie, right, But like he was never like his
(31:06):
music was just sort of an avenue at like an
early points like oh, parents just don't understand and stuff
like that. But he never got like super big because
of music. He kind of got on the scene and
then he did Fresh Prints and stuff like that, and
then people were like, oh, I love this guy. Like
this guy is awesome, he's funny. Everything else he can
you can do action movies now, all shit, no worries.
(31:28):
I don't know what's going on now, Like, knock this off.
Whatever this is, knock it off.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's trying to you know, he's trying to go back
to like you know, they say I'm soft. Yeah, more
like Microsoft.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
One of the worst bars I've ever heard in my
entire life.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
What are we doing? Yo? What are we not doing?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's something I would say. I'm not a fucking talented
musician at all, And I would say it as a
joke because that's sounds awful. Yeah, like that's a really
bad line. Yeah, you shouldn't have You shouldn't have laid
that on wax or whatever it is people do now.
That is just terrible. Like but that that video Pretty
(32:11):
Girls or whatever the fuck I can't listen to. I
saw like it would like it popped up on Instagram
or something. When I was scrolling through. I had to
turn it off after like thirty seconds because I was
getting secondhand embarrassment for a multi millionaire. I was like, yo,
I feel sorry for you, Like it was bad. It's
so cold.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So also, you know, with the shit that just happened,
we go with Shannon Sharp, maybe it's not cool for
a fifty five year old black man talking about he
liked pretty girls, you know, like it just yo. I
don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I guess at this point, who's the worst musician in
his family? Is it him or his wife? Because she
does heavy metal and that's terrible, by the way, metal
fucking terrible.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I've never heard her. I've never heard her music, so
I'm gonna plead. I'm gonnafleet it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, it's really bad. It's like it's it's really bad.
Like it's like it's one of those things where you go,
why are you doing this? Like you're rich, you don't
have to do this, Like it's it's horrible, Like it's
just really really bad. Yeah, God, I while you do that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
While you do that. Lee Daniels is up next, and
you know, Lee Daniels is like the the Pepsi to
Tyler Perry's coke, right, like they they do very like
similar movies. Some of his movies. I don't like. Some
of those movies. I like, some of them I don't like,
and some of them I just watch because like, you know,
(33:59):
like the fuck, like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
But his uh, when he was on the Criterion closet,
the movies he selected were Spartacus, The Piano, Do the
Right Thing, Claudine, Female Trouble, Quirell, Picking Up, Picking on
South Street, pick Up and a half, pick Up on
South Street, eight and a half, and Essential Felini. I've
(34:29):
only seen two of those, uh, the two movies that
we did on Black on Black Cinema. Do the Right Thing, Claudine,
I mean, look good, the right thing, like everybody's seen,
do the right thing, right. But but Claudine is very
very interesting because Claudine wasn't on my radar until you
brought it up as a show that as a as
(34:51):
a movie that we should do for the show. And
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. And you know,
the the brilliant and and like very sad thing about
that movie is that it is one relatable to today.
And that movie came out in nineteen seventy four and
(35:12):
it's still the same. The same issues that are in
that movie translate now.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, well, the system that was was created and the
systems that were broken because of what the federal government
was doing. Yeah, that shit just still exists. And people
are still dealing with the ramifications of that from the seventies. Yeah.
The name of her band, by the way, is uh,
Jada Piutt's band was Wicked Wisdom.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Is it spelled like is it?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's spelled spelled normally. There're no, there's not two x's
or anything stupid like that in it. M Yeah, she's gotta,
She's gotta. She's got a song called bleed all over
Me Stills we do heavy metal. Uh yeah, no, it's
she had a she had a like a fake name.
(36:06):
She had like a like a pen name. Uh yeah, yeah,
no plume if you.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Will, Yeah, like childish cambino.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Right, So she goes by Jada Korn when she's uh,
when she's when she's doing her whole metal thing. Uh so, yeah,
that's cool, it's it's it's good.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
All right. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna listen to it.
I'm not gonna listen to it. On the show, I
did that. I did that. When we recently did dens Pixels,
Terrence was talking about a little Wayne song that.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I heard your guy, I heard about your conversation. Oh
my god, my god, as I as I sold Brad
when I talked to him. I said, I don't listen
to I don't generally listen to Little Wayne, not his
newer music, because I don't really listen to I don't
like listening to people with CTE. Uh like I don't
(37:05):
really want to hear your ct music. That's fine, but yeah,
all right, Lee Daniels, I mean, this is a pretty,
this is a pretty. It's a pretty, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
A very it's it's a very eclectic mix, which again
is to be expected from a director. You know, you're
a director, you probably you have to see a ton
of different types of movies. Uh, if you want to
if you want to be able to like effectively create art, right,
you need to be inspired and and you can't just
(37:38):
look at one thing and then just try to, you know,
ape it like you This is why, this is why
people need to travel. If you can, right or if
you can't, like be curious and look at other cultures,
look at other countries. See what hell see what see
what black people do in other countries? Right, like, because
it's it's different, but it's the same, right, And and
(38:00):
then just kind of branch out and and be a
little more well rounded. I think that would help out
literally everyone, and.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
By and by the way, is I'm not I'm not
asking this to like be a dick is lead Daniels gang.
I don't know if he is.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I think I think he is. I think he is
an out and proud gay person.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yes, okay. Now the only reason I ask is I'm
looking at the list, and then I realized I was, like,
where do I know Female Trouble from? That's a John
Waterson and that's uh, the starring Divine right, So like, look,
we're from Baltimore. So if you don't know John Water,
John Waters is a fucking institution in Baltimore, right, And
you know obviously, obviously if you've ever seen John Waters
(38:43):
or watching John Waters movie, John Waters is as gay
as Elton John is.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, He's a flamboyantly gay, right.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Maybe gay or than Elton John and Elton John is
Elton John, right, who is the king of British gays.
I think I think that's his official title at least
it should be. So like for one of his favorite
movies to be Female Trouble, that's kind of interesting, right,
like because I don't I don't think of Lee Daniel's
films as being necessarily coded as as queer oriented, which
(39:15):
is interesting, right, which he doesn't have to be right, Like,
you don't have to like put yourself in that box.
I'm not saying that, but just looking at this list,
it's interesting how many of those things are obviously very
you know, like very straightforward sort of gay experiences. But also,
I mean, do the Right Thing and Claudine are very
(39:36):
straightforward black experiences. So again, when people like put gay
people in one box and then black people in a
different box, it's like, but there are people who live
in both of those boxes. It doesn't make sense. Right,
gay is not a national so it is just it's
kind of interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that about him,
(39:58):
but like in reading this, I'm like that feel it
feels like that's probably true. So yeah, a lot of
movies I haven't seen either, so that's good.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Gina Prince Bythewood, you would you would know her from
her directorial films such as Loving Basketball, Secret Life of Bees,
Beyond the Lights, The Woman King, The Old Guard, a
bunch of movies that that you're like, hey, hey, I
like that, but like you never but you don't know
(40:29):
anything about like who directed it she directed? She listed
a handful of her favorites. Devil in a Blue Dress.
We have to do it on the show. We have
to do that.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Have you ever seen that movie? No, there's one scene
in that movie that you will not forget, I assure you.
And anyone who's ever seen that movie already is laughing
because they already know that's a that's a fucking dope movie. Man,
that's a super dope movie. And it's a neo norm starring.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh well, I'm looking at the I'm looking at the poster. Yep,
all right, it's a dip. I see a devil in
a blue dress. Yeah, that's a great scene in that movie. Yeah,
that movie is gonna make me mad. I feel it.
That movie's gonna make me mad.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, there's a scene that won't make you mad.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
What excellent?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's very very good. Yeah, that's that's a good choice.
Claudine again is on the list.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
A Dry White Season in the Mood for Love broadcast news,
Fish Tank, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, uh, and
An Actor's Revenge broadcast news. I don't know this movie.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh this is a James Brooks movie. Okay, okay, all right,
I've never seen this At first, I thought I was
I was thinking of the movie Broadcast, which is like
a super classic film, which is also excellent if you've
never seen it. I've never seen Fish Tank, Fear and
Loathing Las Vegas. I've definitely seen. That's a wild fucking movie.
(42:01):
It's it's just mania. It's like drug drug induced mania
and an actor's revenge. I don't know that one either.
It's a good list, it's a really good list.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Next up, Carrie Washington.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Ah, hell, yeah, Kerry Washington coming in.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
That's right, Carry Washington coming in with Jay's favorite movie
as number one. When Harry met Sally excellent, This is
not helping those claims of you being a white guy
for people.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's Merry Washington eating popcorn and drinking out of Harry
long stem wine glasses. That's right.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
When Harry met Sally. Malcolm x Hoop Dreams and Django
Unchained that yeah, was also in that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know what movie is really good? The one I'm in.
Fuck you guys.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You know what, though, my wife really loves Django Unchained
because for different reasons. It's, you know, my wife can
be a girly girl sometimes, and that is a movie
about a man who is a slave, right, who overcomes
all that bullshit to save his wife. And it's it's
(43:23):
like a it's like an incredibly violent, you know, racist
love story. And and so I I see it, right,
I see it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
So she's your Broomhilda? Is that that nap? Yes, is
a good list. Look when Harry met Sally. I don't
want to say underrated. It's won so many awards.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah it's I mean it's a it's it's got one
of those famous scenes in cinema, like The Godfather.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Highly underrated guys. But I think a lot of people
from especially from a younger perspective, have never seen that movie. Look,
it is one of for like I think of it. Yeah,
I was thinking about this the other day and not
about this movie, but it brings up the topic. Like
(44:16):
I realize that everything I think, not everything, but a
lot of the way I see the world. And I'm
sure it is just true for you and probably almost everybody.
The way in which you see the world is so
heavily dictated by the art that you watched as a kid,
right and right, Like, because I think a lot of
people just think like they view art, or they don't
(44:36):
even think about movies as art, but like they view
art and they just oh, I like that and that's it.
Like no, but art actually has the ability to imprint
on you, which is a really wild, you know thing
to think about. But everything I think about like fairness
and you know, like doing the right thing for people
(44:56):
who don't have the ability to do those things for themselves,
and like that weird sort of like superhero complex that
a lot of people our age have of like you
gotta say people, you gotta try that yo. That's all
built out of like Rambow and Rocky and all of this,
Like it's all built out of those things. Right, Like
they're incredibly violent movies. I recognize that, But that sense
(45:19):
of like that position that we like mentally have put
ourselves in as a generation all stems from that shit.
And like when Harry met Sally is like for me,
that idea that like that red pill shit doesn't make
sense to me because of things like this, Because like
that entire premise, if you've never seen that movie, is
(45:40):
a man and a woman meet and like they drive
together to go to college. Right, Like Harry picks this
woman up, he's friends with her her, he's like girlfriend
or he's a boyfriend with her friend, and he's like,
I'm going to this NYU or whatever. I can drop
you off. And they drive in a car and they
have this conversation and the crux of the conversation is
(46:00):
can men and women be friends? Harry doesn't think so.
This is them going off to college. She's like, yeah,
I think so. And then they kind of like dig
each other, but nothing happens, and they keep running into
each other at different courses of their life right and
over the course of their life they end up falling
for each other life. Sometimes he's single, sometimes she's single.
You know so and so, And in the end, the
(46:23):
whole point of that movie is yes they can be
But this whole idea of like when you meet because
he is such a great line at the end. He's like,
when you meet somebody and you realize you want to
be with them for the rest of your life, you
want the rest of your life to start right now,
it doesn't. It's like, it's not because I'm drunk, it's
not because it's New Year's Eve, It's because I love you.
And it's just such a fucking well written scene. That
(46:45):
entire movie is fucking pitch perfect. Nora Efron, who wrote
that movie like will go down as one of the
greatest writers of all time.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
And Rob Reiner meet head from All in the Family,
directed the shit out.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Of that movie.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
He did, he did. That's it. It's an excellent movie.
It really is. If you've never seen it, it is
a perfect In my opinion, it is as close to
a perfect film as like a few movies. For me,
it's just fucking perfect.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
It just doesn't It's kind of the prototype for the
romantic comedy it is in in you know, in modern
modern times. Right, Oh, yeah, you know it. It's it's uh,
I haven't seen it in a really really long time,
but yeah, it's an excellent movie. Man. It's like it's
(47:32):
it's it's up there man. Yeah. Uh. Nora from won
an Oscar for.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
That in fact, yeah, yeah, I mean it's like that
Sleepless in Seattle. Uh, you got male, all of those
they all they all pull, they all pull from that movie. Yeah,
they all do. Yeah, Malcolm XA as we said, fucking excellent.
Hoop Dreams I've never seen. I don't really care about sports.
And then obviously Micah's wife's favorite movie, Jangle and not
(48:00):
a favorite, but.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I mean it's so good, like it.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Is good, it is good, it is good. Stop saying
nigga all the time though, just he's like, no, I'm
not right exactly, but you know, at the same time,
like I'm a hypocrite because like dead nigger storage is
like those three words in that order is just hilarious
(48:25):
to me.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
It's like, all right, you should be saying it. Let's
Samuel Jackson saying like, don't do that right, Like, okay,
I'll give you that, but that's it.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Last up, one of my favorite people, Gabrielle Union. I
like her a lot, Like I I am in love
with Gabrielle Union. She's one of those uh she's one
of those people that I think is beautiful on the
inside and out. Her Her favorite films are Greece Waiting
(48:58):
to Exhale Life, Boomerang, and Talladega Knight's The Ballad of
Ricky Bobby.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You know what, sometimes you just like a stupid ass movie.
There's another wrong, but look this is why. But look,
this is why.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Gabrielle Union is Gambrielle Union, Right, you know, she's got
it's it's she's got the one of these things is
not like the other things are not like the other.
But Greece is is I can I get people liking
Greece And I hate musicals, but I like greas and
(49:35):
and you know, waiting to exail on Life, which again
is another underrated movie.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Life is a super underrated movie.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
I slept on that movie, man, I really slept on
that movie. That first time I watched it was when
we did it on the show. And yeah, that was
a really good movie. And Boomerang is boomerang, right, Like
that's that that's a that's an institution in like black film.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
It's like when Harry met Sale is a prototype you
know for all those other romantic comedies. Boomerang was a
prototype for nineties black movies. It was it was the peak,
like black people doing fucking awesome, being like doing awesome shit,
being awesome. Everybody looked good. It was the peak, like
(50:19):
nothing is better than listen listening to interviews with Eddie
Murphy where he's like the studio was like, can we
even make this movie? Is this believable? It's like, yeah,
it's fucking believable. And that movie made a ship ton
of money. Yeah, black people wanted to see themselves.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeahs as marketing executives. Yeah, why the fuck?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Not right, Like we sell shit like the fuck and
it's just And also it's a good it's a good movie.
It's a good movie from the perspective of like the
Roman or like the you know, sort of relationship commentary
and stuff like that, Like all of that's there, man.
And also it's fucking hilarious, Like that's a movie I
(51:00):
could turn on right now and still laugh as much
as I did when I first saw it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah that That movie had a forty two million dollar budget.
It made one hundred and thirty one million. Not bad.
I'm actually surprised they didn't make a sequel, to be honest, I'm.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Really well, don't say that too loud at this point.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, I don't need it.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't
need a sequel at this point.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Isn't there a TV show or some shit?
Speaker 3 (51:25):
I know there was a network called Boomerang, but I
don't I don't think there was an actual like TV show.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Oh okay, I thought there was, like they tried to
make like a TV version or a sequel as something
I thought.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
So I mean maybe maybe I don't. I don't want that.
I don't want it unless it's good. Yeah I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah I'm good. Oh no, hold on, is that is
this it? No? Might okay, yeah, so there you go.
Uh yeah, Telldega Nights is fine. This is a silly ass.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Movie, but that's fine. So yeah, okay, So yeah that's it.
That's you know, I don't know something. If you were
a movie podcast, we talk about movies. I figured, you know,
let's get let's see what movie stars and directors what
their favorite movies are. If I were to do the
if I were to do the typical YouTube thing, tell
(52:20):
us where your favorite movies are in the comments below,
I drive up all that engagement, and yeah we might,
we might have to. I don't know if I have
I can't. I couldn't rattle off a list of favorite movies.
Like right off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I don't like when Harry Matt Sally is my favorite movie.
After that, it's just like it's it's not in any
any particular order, Like I really like I really love
Kill Bill Part one, like I just do. I just
think it's great. I am a huge fan of Eternal
(52:59):
Sunshine the Spotless Mind. I think it's one of the
one of the best scene transition films of all time.
And it's just again I'm a I'm a fan of romance.
I'm a bit of a cuck. I guess it is
the term that kids would use. But I also, like,
you know, I'm like, you know, I'm a child of
the nineties, Like I like Predator and I was watching
(53:22):
Rambo First Blood Part two the other day, which is insane.
So I like so many different types of things, Like
I don't. I try not to box myself into any genre.
I mean I've I've even tried to get into horror,
and I'm a fucking coward, you know.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
So yeah, once you watch, once you watch enough of it,
it's like, all right, this is just silly.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
But I you know what I like. I like this
sort of as somebody referred to it, like mid budget,
high concept horror like Companion and shit like that. Like
I like, I like stuff like that. That's that's kind
of like a social commentary, but like people still getting murked,
like I enjoy that. That's kind of yeah. Yeah, so
I'm kind of all over the place. Yeah, but I'll
(54:06):
do the classic YouTube thing. Yeah, put your put your
favorite movies in the comments. Help us out. Come on, guys,
and also, don't forget let us know if you want
us to do Blink twice, we'll make that shit happen
for real. Like I dude, I want to do that
movie so bad.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
I want to talk about that movie. Yeah, it's a
really good movie.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
All right. Look, a lot of people don't know this
inside Baseball here. Micah took night quote right before we
went on air, so we did. We were able to
get it done before he passed right the fuck out.
So that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, yep, we we but we're running out. We're counting down,
running out of guess.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
So even though this is coming out the week of
June twenty fourth, this episode, we are going to take
a bit of a break and we will be back
with All Night and a Day, or all day and
a night rather on the week of July fourteenth. So yes,
we're we're putting this out this week, but we're gonna
(55:07):
be off the following the following two weeks, and then
we'll put out this episode. Okay, all right, so we'll
see you guys for episode two eighty five the week
of July fourteenth, Later see you yeah yeah yeah
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