May 22, 2025 • 44 mins
This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to announce the next film, "Sinners." The film follows twin brothers trying to leave their troubled lives behind, but return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back. The random topic this week is all about (RG3) Robert Griffin III's comments about Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark's rivalry in the WNBA and the blowback he received from Ryan Clark. The back and forth between the two commentators also spilled into issues of race that RG3 seems to not want to address but then appears to be upset at the idea of his own blindspots and racial fetish behaviors being highlighted by others.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I know I did less about the villain, right now,
go find the last down before me change.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let's rappor chase on it, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello, and welcome to a brand new preview episode for
Black and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm here
with my co host Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, guys, we're back just the two of us
this week. Uh, this is a preview for episode two
eighty three Sinners. All right, So, I know everybody was
excited finally for us to do this movie. It's coming
next week. I'm excited, can't wait to talk about it.
So we'll give the log line.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a lot to uh, there's a lot to unback
in that movie.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We'll see now.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Of course, nobody's surprised, so I'll give the log line
as if anybody really needs that. Trying to leave their
troubled lies behind, twin brothers returned to their hometown to
start again, only to discover that an even greater evil
is waiting to welcome them back. Written and directed by
Ryan Coogler, obviously starring Michael B. Jordan and Michael B. Jordan,
(01:13):
Miles Canton, and Saul Williams.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
That's dope.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I saw Saul Williams in concert number years ago. So yeah,
I don't know. I have not watched it yet. I
will have a chance to watch it before next week's show.
I'm very very excit.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So do you know anything about it?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I I know, yeah, No, No, I know some things,
and I've i have luckily been very very very lucky
to not have major things spoiled for me. Like I mean,
I know, like who and what the Like, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Know what the plot. You know what the plot is,
but like even if you know some of the stuff,
like there's one sequence in it that has to be
seen to be believed, Like it's I mean, I think
that guy might know what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Saying, right, Yeah, I mean I've I've heard like sort
of like little little conversations and I'm just like, don't
want to hear it, please, just I just want to
go in as blind as possible.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
So, but I am looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So if you're if you're looking forward to the Center's episode,
we will talk about that in depth next week. Okay,
random topic this week. Going from excited to very annoyed
h r G three back on the back on the
preview episode because he got into it with Ryan Clark
from the Pivot podcast about his supposed thought that uh,
(02:42):
Caitlin was a Kayton. Caitlin Clark and Angela Ree they
have like they hate each other or Angel re see.
I don't watch basketball, especially any level of professional sports
really at all, but Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark have
this like beef and very specifically that Angel Rees, a
black woman, hates Caitlin Clark, a white woman, to which
(03:04):
he got a lot of shit for saying that RG
three did from sports journalist obviously from Ryan Clark, very specifically,
and they had a little bit of a back and forth.
I'll go to you first to get your general thoughts
because this involves like RG three's wife who is white
and obviously he's black, and you know this idea of
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RG three not understanding about what it is to be
a black person in that or to understand what black
and women go through in athletics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So go, So, yeah, this all stemmed from you know,
if you follow any type of you know, sports, you
know that the w n b A is kind of
on an upswing, and a lot of it has to
do with the rivalry between Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese,
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who are not the best players, but like Asia Wilson
is probably the best player all all around. But Caitlyn
Clark is kind of like the most important player right
now because like her stardom has kind of driven white
people to kind of enjoy this, and and Angel Reese
(04:22):
is but but they've had this rivalry like through college, right,
so this is not like a new thing, right, and
Angel Reese is like a college champion and Caitlyn Clark wasn't.
And they they've kind of taken this rivalry into the
professional leagues. They're kind of like the Magic Johnson and
(04:43):
Larry Bird of the w NBA, right, Like it's it's
getting people excited to watch women's basketball, which is a
good thing for everybody. But here's the thing with Angel Reese.
Every everybody talks about Kaitlyn Clark, right, like she's like
this phenom, right, and Angel Reese is kind of Angel
(05:07):
Reese is kind of like that Jordan me, right, And
I took that personally right because she's like she's going
on record and say, hey, man, like the w the
w NBA is getting you know, a lot of shine
but it's not just about one player, right, I'm a
part of this too. A lot of us are part
of it. And she's getting like a little frustrated, right
(05:30):
because in interviews people ask Angel Reese about Caitlyn Clark,
not necessarily the other way around unless they have some
direct interaction.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So this is the sophomore year, and the w NBA
is like, hey, let's put the fever against the sky. Right,
there's the two teams they play on first game of
the season. Everybody's gonna watch it. Right, during one point,
I mean, that's just good booking. Right, during one point,
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Kaitlyn Clark committed a hard foul on Angel Reese and
you got to realize, yo, like the the first year,
their rookie year. I mean, people were put enough boots
to Kaitlyn Clark, you know, like people I remember that,
they're like yeah, right, like welcome to the welcome to
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the w right, like like now we're not fucking around.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Right, And by the way that like people try to
make a big deal of that, like they're treating I
was like, that's what happens when you get a big
name rookie coming into a professional sports.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That happens no matter gender, Like, that's just the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, it's just the thing, man, It's just it's just
the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Right. Like, but you know, white.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
People are desperate to play victim, right, like they need it,
right and yeah, not all of them, but like enough
of them, right, and and this is their great white hope, right.
And so this season, like Kaitlin Car's not having that ship.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And at one point during the game, Andrew Reves goes
up for a layup, an easy layup. Caitlyn Clark makes
a hard foul, a deliberate hard foul, right, No, no
easy shots, right, she makes it play on the ball,
but it's a very hard foul.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You could argue that Angel Rees uh flopped. You could
argue that the foul was too hard whatever, right, Like,
there's a lot of flopping in the NBA. I would
assume it would translate to the w n b A.
But the foul happened. Andrew Rees gets up and she's like, Yo,
(07:37):
what the fuck is the problem? Right, and she has
to be held back. Caitlyn Carr turns around, She's just
like whatever, Right, it's in the heat of competition. Right
after the game, everybody's like it was a Kaitlyn car
is like, look, it was a player on the ball,
refs gaming flavorant for it. I don't think they should have,
but I respect the decision. Andrew Reese is like, the
(08:01):
rest got it right? Moving on, literally, that's what she said, right, because.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
That's it right, that's it soious an egregious response.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because because she's so sick and tired of people asking
her about Caitlin Clark understand right, which is understandable, right, Like,
and the way people are I'm giving you all this
background just to kind of illustrate a point. The way
that certain white people are treating Angel Reese is fucking
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egregious because they because they have the you know, basketball
is generally stereotypically dominated by black players, right, Black players
are really really good and what at at at being
like at the athletics of it, and white people tend
to be good it at the fundamentals of it.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And the way that some of these white fans are
treating Angel Reese, I mean they're calling them like racist
names and shit like you know, and and they're they're
literally doing an investigation right now because someone was heard
hurling insults at Angel Reese on like a racial level
(09:27):
or something like that, and everybody's come out and says
there's no place in it, but like it happens, and
it happens a lot, right, and.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Do what they do in soccer? Do you know what
they do? Like because that got so open.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They chan't like they wear like monkey masks and shit.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh yeah right yeah whatever, the professional soccer I don't
know whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Who Baltimore Blast.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
The Faithful Organization. I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I'm unbelievably ignorant about sports. They basically instituted a rule
I guess on the like the higher level soccer at least,
like if you get caught doing that, the players can
sue you. And like the very first player to win
a lawsuit is a black player obviously.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And dude was like, I love it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Y'all keep saying whatever the fuck you want, Like I'm
gonna sue your rest IN'SO fucking oblivion.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah yeah, that's what you should do.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Like you don't get to you don't get to come
to a game in her racial insults. It's ridiculous, like this,
it's a game.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's a game.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's a game, you know, it's it's one thing to heckle. Right,
there's another hate speech is another thing right on any direction, right,
nobody should be calling anybody fucking names and shit, it's
just dumb.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Look, I get it, I get the arguments. I want
to been like, but what about free speech? Yeah, I'm
just giving an example, okay, in free speech laws in
Europe are very different than here. Anyway, if you if
you need to defend that's not.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
How free speech works in America either, well it is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But like you really feel the need, white people in
the comments to defend someone yelling racial epithets, I would
just say that someone needs to feed you your own teeth.
But look, that's that's me.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
But that's also a free speecher. Sure, so it's fine anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I give you all that background right to kind
of put the whole rivalry in context. Now, the ever
the hot take machine, Robert Griffin goes on Twitter and
he's like, nah, you don't get up like that and
(11:28):
ready to square up. And unless you really hate somebody, right,
Andrew Reis hates Caiton Clark, right, and he's just like
adamant about it for some reason, and like it's a
weird take, right, Like it's a bad take. That's a
bad take. It's a weird take. It's like, okay, like
(11:50):
even if even if it's true, like why are you
bringing this up?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
And he's like, well, I got evidence, right, Like I
got evidence, and and he gives he cites examples of
how someone in the heat of competition gets pissed off
at another player, right like.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, no, you don't do that. You don't do all this,
and I'm doing I'm head snaking because that's what he did.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
He was mocking her with his wife, by the way,
in the background with his wife like ah, yeah, you're funny,
you're funny.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Right, and and he but he does this in fairness, right,
he does this and is like okay, uh, okay, this
is weird, right, especially coming from you. R G three,
a guy who recently said we shouldn't have all this
(12:42):
other stuff revolving around sports, right, it shouldn't be about
like politics, It shouldn't be about all this stuff. It
should just be about the sport, right.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like, all right, that's always can I mean that, that's
the that's the great concern.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And I don't know if he's concern.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If I had to make a guess, I would say probably,
but he's not very smart, so I would argue probably
is conservative. But yeah, that that's a classic thing, you know,
like why are you bringing politics into stuff and then
immediately when it is convenient to your argument, the politics
comes in first off, or you know, racism or something
like that, like they are nothing but hypocritical.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So yeah, right, and he's basically big up in Caitlyn Clark.
By putting Angel Reese down, you can pick up Kaitlyn Clark.
Kaitlyn Clark is is a phenomenal athlete, like she she
is quite frankly, she's got the w NBA on her
back right now, right, like people are tuning in to
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right in terms of popularity. And she's a good player,
like she just she just did. Like it's just the
point of fact, but like there's a lot but there's
a lot of great players there too. But he's putting
her up by knock Angels down, and right, that's the problem, right.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right, And he's not doing it based on skill, and
he's also not doing it right.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
He's also doing it in a weirdly ahistorical way of.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Looking at sports. And here's a prime example of it.
Look again, not a big sports guy feel.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Free, but I'm I'm a conversation about it, right.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I am not a big sports guy. However, I do
in fact live in the world, and so this is
why RG three is so like his viewpoint is so
a historical to me. There are two people on television
right now, Charles Barkley and Shack work together. Are friends,
(14:45):
clearly very close friends. Shaq and Barkley both tell the
story from their own perspectives of how they got into
that almost gone to that fist fight. Well, they did
get into a fist fight in the middle of a game.
Shaq literally said, I was mad because I meant to
leave with my left so I could knock his fucking
head off.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Is a quote from him.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
They literally got into a fistfight in the middle of
the basketball game because I guess it was a foul
or whatever, and Barkley threw the ball and hit Shack
on the head.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Shaq was a younger player, Barkley is an older player,
trying to fucking be like, hey, get the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You're not gonna come in here and just run shit.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And they almost they almost tried to damn near kill
each other in that fistfight, and their moms are the
ones who ended up breaking that shit up, like over
the phone, like knock the shit off, right, So to
pretend like athletes don't get super fucking heated, like this
is their job, like you were an athlete RG three
in the middle of a game, there's there's money on
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the line. They're more importantly than money.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
In those cases. It's your fucking massive egos that are
on the line.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
All of that shit get you hyped. So even though
you may be like, I'm a fuck this guy up,
I'm gonna punch this guy in the face. Yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Years later you're like yo, Like you're cracking jokes on
TV together and you're like best friends. Because that's not
their their their their competitiveness isn't doesn't dictate who they
are in all aspects of their lives. And look, you
may know more about football than me, you may understand
sports more than me, but I understand logic clearly better
(16:21):
than you. You don't like your job, isn't It doesn't
define like your job. Relationships don't define how you are
in all aspects. This is not a Tyler Perry movie
where the way you do one thing is the way
you do everything, Like that's stupid and that's a that's
a poor bit of logic, right, that movie is so dumb.
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But like when I saw him say that, I was like,
that doesn't make any sense. There are tons of players
who have There are people who have not gotten along
on you know, in in their particular sport, and they
still don't get along.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
In real life.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
But there are absolutely other there. There are way more
examples of people being very heated in moments of athleticism
and then they're just like all right, well, like the
fuck that's a job. Like they literally that's what they do.
How many boxeses Mike Tyson try to fucking murder and
then he has them on their podcasts and they're like
laughing about it and ship they do.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well, here's here's.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Here's the thing that I don't think, uh Robin Griffin
like gets.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Really specific about this one.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There's a lot you're you're when you say stuff like that,
you're playing into the angry black person trope, right, Yeah,
and that's part of Ryan Clark's point too. Yeah, you
you are really playing into that and it's not it's
not healthy for anybody. It's already it's already you know,
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perceived that Angel Reese is the villain or whatever. She's
already the villain to a lot of people whose you know,
great white hope. Is this precious little you know, flower child, right.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And and that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Kaitlyn Clark is not even like that, right, Like she's
from what I can grab them, right, She's getting wrapped
up in white people's horse shit about this and like
because I've seen interviews are like she gives like all
this like homage to all these you know, black female
players that came before her, Like she's not she's actually
not like the shittier versions of her fan base, which
I'm glad people seem to be able to differentiate because
(18:22):
it's the Internet and people are really bad.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
At that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So I've seen I've seen people. I've seen people leave
comments when she says stuff like that like we made you,
we we we How could you say that?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like you you weren't shooting in the gym? Get the
fuck out of here, Like like are people okay, Like no, no,
they're not. She's super weird, man, But you know, it
gets it gets to the point where it's like you're
you know when you hear that stuff like these are
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these are children guys, not children, but like I don't
mean to belittle them, these are these are young women,
like very very young, Like they're in their early twenties.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And when you hear, when you constantly hear you are
the you're the villain, You're this, you're that, You're the
like remember when remember when who's the gymnast? Simone Biles
was like, hey, I got to step away for a bit. Yeah,
and people were just like.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You don't have the heart of a champion, right, Like,
like she was like.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yo, I couldn't see where I was going when I
was doing flips, I would die Like okay.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Girl, takes some time.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Just fuck But but that's the thing that he doesn't
understand is that as much as you get it, black
people get it in a different way, and black and
women get it in a different way. So being a
black woman, it is just compounded, right, And he doesn't
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understand that because he lives in a he lives in
what I'm being very generous with him, he lives in
what he perceives as a post racial.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
World in my opinion, right, I think he thinks that's
a very that's very generous.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm trying, dude, I'm trying because I.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Know it's a certain topic. I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna look. Oh look, look.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I know what it's like to be the weird nigga
that black people don't like. Right, So I try to
give So I tried to get. I tried past tense.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
To give that dude some grace.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But I'm I'm done.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You know, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Like this dude's a fucking weirdo. I looked at his
I looked at his response to Ryan Clark's response before
I saw Ryan Clark's response right, and.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's like, man, you came after my family.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Man, you just there's just a line you don't crush
and you sprinted to that line, Ryan Clark, you a
better man, bro. And I looked at all the comments
and every single comment was like this, ain't it?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Take this down? Everyone was like that's not what he
said at.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
All, what he said at all. And then I said,
you know what, let me go back and look at
this Lion Clark fan. And Ryan Clark is such a
nice guy.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
He is.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He's he's forty five ish, he.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Is enlightened.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
In terms of what black athletes are, but with black
athletes in front of microphones have to say, he's he's.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Quite the enlightened individual. And I saw that what he said,
and he's he's a very thoughtful person. And I like,
I like that guy a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yea, And yeah, I mean I'm not a big sports guy,
but the clips I've seen, and you know, segments I've
seen from Pivot are very very good. All the all
those guys are really good.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, and and you know they talk about like real shit,
right and he breaks down. You know, well, I don't
agree with the take. Here's why they're here are the
systemic reasons why. You know, Like he goes into background,
he's like, hey, I've met rg III.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
You know, he's he's he he is what he is.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I met his family. You know, his wife is really nice,
you know, like he compliments his wife and like, so
I'm like, where's the attack, right, And I'm just waiting
for somebody to ask Robert Griffin, what were you offended by?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I just need somebody to do that. I you know
what I think it is.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I think he didn't like the fact that he brought
up his wife. I think that's just all it is.
I think that's all it is. Like I think he
and I think he didn't bring up his wife in
a way that was because I think he was deferential,
like he was just like, yo, I think that she's
more than her color, right, Like I think she's a
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smart knife.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's what he says, right, right, And I think that
I think that's what did it right, right, because I
think that's it's more putting a mirror up to RG
three and his comments. And I think he didn't like
that reflection. He was like, you're going after my family.
He was like, you didn't go up to your family like.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
He quite literally was kind to your wife. And he
didn't say it in a sort of like sarcastic way
at all. He was just like, no, I think she's
just more than this like one note thing that you
make her out to be. Like He's like, right, Which,
by the way, if you really want to piss somebody off,
you play you pay compliment to their wife in a
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way that shits on them. That's a perfect respect. That's
a that's the difference between him being forty five and
RG three being thirty five. Like that is a skill
you learn just with age. You don't have to you
don't have to hit somebody directly. Sometimes a bank shot
works even better.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Right, it's a class it's a classy ass this man,
it's a classy backhanded dis.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, your wife is great. You should treat her better.
And you're like, I don't treat her. Yeah, that's what
you're right, right, And.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And you know when I was, I was incredibly impressed
because I wouldn't have said all that ship, like I'd
have been like this niggas. Look, I don't call I
don't like calling people coons, but like, nah, you know,
get your trash pan to ask up out of here
with that ship.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like that's that's the whole that's the whole podcast. I'm done.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
No, But here's the Like I thought Clark's point was
really really good, right, like, listen, you don't his his
overarching point was you're saying that you think that she
hates her like, which is which is a weird take. Again,
we discussed all the points of why that's a historical
it makes no sense, but you're saying that, but you're
(24:47):
also helping, like you said, you're throwing fuel on a
fire of these racist fans. Of hers, and you're putting
angel Rees in a worse position, right because you're saying
this thing that you're basing this on a heat of
the moment thing, Like that's silly. Now if you just said,
like you could have even said, oh, on the basketball
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court they hate each other. This is like a weird
choice of words. But I don't think anybody would have cared.
But you were like, she hates her, and then you
put period hate like you were like really trying to
fucking send that home when you tweeted that shit out.
But and Clart made the point of like, because you're
not married to a black woman, that perhaps you don't
understand like what you're doing, right, like the level of
(25:36):
fucking gasoline you're throwing on that and to paint her
as this kind of this hard villain in this situation
is really fucked up. And he was like, you don't
sit and have those conversations with your wife about what
a woman of color is going through because she's white, right.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, He's not wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Now. RG three's response.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Is, well, I have a black mother, I have I
have you know, black daughters like daughters, right, which is
a valid response, but it doesn't address what he said. Yes,
you may be raising young black girls, but that doesn't
mean that you're having that conversation with them now, right.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You may, you may, in fact have that conversation with
them later.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I would hope that you would, but it doesn't mean
that you're having that conversation now, right. Like if again,
my wife and I don't watch sports, but if we
were watching this and following this, my wife is a
woman of color, we would be having a conversation about
like that's kind of fucked up, of like the difference
in how these two people are being treated. Right, But
your wife isn't a woman of color, So the chances
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are now in fairness, Clark isn't he is assuming this right,
But I would argue that his assumption were normally, I
would be like, well're kind of speaking from a point
of ignorance, but we can tell in the way that
you behave with your wife, right, Like we can make
assumptions based on how you talk about right, based on
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the like, oh, I bet you didn't know a white
girl could do this, right, Like, right, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Not that boy. You gotta drink some of that milk, man,
all that milk you gotta drink some milk.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Man, Like, yeah, he's really weird about gross nigga. So
like that's your wife you talking about, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Like right, but she but she seems to be cool
to like, oh, happy milk and National Milk and Cookie
Day and they're like standing there or whatever, and I'm like, Okay,
that's really fucking weird, Like it's super funny at home.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
They gotta do is weird? Okay, It's like that is
fucking guarantee, I guarantee you she she calls him nigger like.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Hard r.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
That's the only way you get.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Thank you, right probably, But okay, so I you and
I are both of you and I are married to women.
That's a very weird way to start this straight like
just so everyone knows boss right, no, but for real,
we're not kidding, but a very strange way to start suns.
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But our perspectives are different. You are married to a
black woman, so your perspective on this is is a
very one to one, right, which is like, hey man,
what the fuck, Like, don't don't do that to black women?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Right, like, because you can see that you can, I
mean obviously can see it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But also women, right it just it's it's that male
thing of like, wait a minute, I got daughters. Maybe
I should start carrying about women.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Now like that one dumb white boy one of the
Jake Paul.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Logan was like, I didn't realize women had it so
hard now that I have a wife and a daughter.
Holy shit, bro, fuck thanks you fucking moron.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad the world shook you
and you woke up. Yeah, it's basically like that.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So that is your perspective, right as as a black
man being married to a black woman, you can see
that sort of that one to one connection directly through
your wife. I have a different connection to this, which
is my wife is not white, or my wife is
not my wife is not black, but she's half white,
half Indian.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Right, here's my thing. I am very two thoughts of
this one. Nobody cares about your diverse colored marriage. No
one cares. No one cares.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
RG three and your wife missus RG three, all of
you fucking weirdos on TikTok. Hey, this is my white
girlfriend or my white boyfriend and I'm black and I'm different.
Hey I drive like this and then they do taxes
like this No one cares about your comic view version
of your marriage or relationship.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's dumb. You are not fucking special. Nothing matters. You
may be special in different ways.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Maybe you can throw a ball, maybe you can sing
a song, maybe you can do cool shit on a computer.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I don't know. But the color of your skin versus
the color of the skin of your partner is not important.
This is not nineteen sixty five. You're not fighting for
civil rights. You're just marrying the person that you love.
And that's fine. And I'm saying this as a person
was in an interracial marriage. You're not special for that reason.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
At the same time, I need people to also stop
basing what they think of interracial marriages based on dumb
niggas like RG three and his wife and other stupid
people on the internet.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That's not how it is.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You know, what an interracial marriage is like is just
like a monochromatic marriage. I always like to say that
because it's just funny. Right.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
It's the same. It's the same as your marriage. There's
no difference.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Mike's wife drives him crazy, just like my wife drives
me crazy. We drive our wives crazy just the same.
There's no difference, guys, there's no difference. What is it
like being married to somebody's not black?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
The same thing is like being married to somebody who is.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Like, yeah, there are racial issues you can talk about
as a direct experience, but ninety nine point nine percent
of it you.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Just marry Like that's it. There's no fucking difference.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So I fucking hate when people, especially black men, try
to make it out to be some like special thing.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Gotta drink milk. Look how different it is it it's not.
It's not. You're not special. You're not special. I can
guarantee you. You're just You're You're not a unique, beautiful
and unique snowflake. You're just a nigga who's good with
the football. Who cares. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
That being said, stop denigrating other women, black women in
this case, very specifically, to big up your wife who
is white. If you have to do that, what it
says about you is that you're insecure about your relationship,
not that they have a problem.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You're insecure. RG three.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
You're insecure about your marriage. That's why you keep bringing
up black women. That's why you keep bringing up her
race and everything else.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Hey, look us Look what I got. Look what I got.
Look what I got, Look what I got. Because you're insecure.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
You know how much I talk about my wife's race
as far as like comparative to other people, I don't do.
You know how much I give a fuck about what
other people think of my marriage because my wife isn't.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Black, I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I don't give a fuck, and that in that way
of like, go fuck yourself. I don't give a fuck, right,
Like if somebody said something denigrating, of course that's different, right,
it wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Matter what color she was. But I don't care, Like,
I don't give a shit, And I don't understand why
people think that it matters or doesn't matter. It doesn't,
it doesn't. Just go live your life. So so people
have been, uh, you know, calling for the wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
People have been calling for Ryan Clark to be removed
from ESPN because he's a he's a contributor on ESPN.
They comment on the fact that he was once in
a relationship and has a child with a white woman,
Okaye's ex wife or whatever, and this is this is,
this is what's real.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Fucked up. Someone I saw someone posts.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
An image of Ryan Clark, and I guess is his
wife next to RG three and his wife and said, well,
I can see why Ryan Clark's met that that RG
three has a white wife because she's not built like
the white people's version of what they think a black
woman should look like. Right, she's not like a royal
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centric woman with a tan, right, she's not like she
she's fine, right, but she don't look like a white lady,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Like she's not as perfectly attractive woman.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
She's perfectly attractive, but she's not like an athlete or
whatever like his like RG three's wife, and it's just like, nigga,
like this is what this is what you're doing, you know,
like you're you're you're you're literally having dudes out here
comparing women, and it just I don't know, man, Like
I don't know, like the whole victim thing, like look right,
(34:15):
all right, you're not a victim.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I'm gonna say something that's maybe not nice. RG three's
wife just she looks like a trophy wife. She just
looks like a trophy wife. Like that's not impressive to me,
Oh my god, Like I don't think you should be
comparing them anyway. I think that's fucking stupid. But if
you just like, oh, she's pretty, yeah, I mean, okay,
(34:40):
I guess she's skinny with fake tits. Congratulations, okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
All right, like is this this is the this is
the high bar for you. I don't know. Listen, man,
very weird. Look, you can RG three, you know you can.
You can have weirdo takes and you can. You can.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You can be proud of your wife, right, like everyone
should be proud of their spouse, right, like.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Right, you should think she's the baddest check on the planet.
No problem, right, no problem though, But but it's not
a zero sum game, right. You don't have to you
don't have to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Clan, you don't have to put down other people directly
or indirectly to pick up your wife. And you don't
you know, I don't know. It's weird, bro, it's weird. Look, Tiara,
I don't like to chime in. No TIERR wanted to
try him in. She said, if you guys talk about
RG III, I'll note that he may love his wife,
(35:44):
but he fetishizes her because she is white and gets
embarrassed for getting caught out on it, and then uses
his black daughters as a shield no way. He talks
to his daughters about what black women face when he
tries to be race neutral ninety nine percent of the time.
This latest fiasco is just another example of that. Yeah, man,
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like I get it. You know, race is a sensitive
thing and you don't necessarily want you don't want to
see it, or you don't want to live in a
world where you want to live in a colorblind society.
Always tell people that that's not the way to approach life.
The way to approach life is to see color, acknowledge it,
(36:27):
and you know, see your differences, but not let them
divide you. Like, being colorblind is what white people do
when they don't want to see, when they don't want
to accept the fact that like, black people or other
people might be different. No, no, you're just like me.
You're just like me, right, No, I don't want to
(36:48):
be like you. I want to be like me and
you just be cool with it, just like I'm just
like I'm cool with.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
You being you. Maybe as a people we are a
little too cool, right, Like, we don't have to let
redheads be black now, guys.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Now, apparently now we don't have to let redheads because
guess what, because guess what. Those redheads didn't want that
black girl playing aerial in the Little Mermaid, So get
out of here with that ship, all right, Like, but
that's just like, that's just a tangent. Right, we can
be cool, but we're not the same.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
No, we're not cool no more. It's Andy and I
have been laughing. Look for all week. It's so stupid.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Look, man, Also, ginger is an anagram of nigger, So
maybe we're not as far away from each other as
we think.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
They treat them people for no reason.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Look, I mean, in all honesty, it's look, you got
RG three has three beautiful daughters. Images you gotta You're
thirty five, and it's gonna sound really weird because I'm
ten years older than you. Much of Ryan Arcis. You
gotta grow the fuck up, then, because your perspective on
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black women and thinking it doesn't matter and not recognizing
the full scope of what you're doing is going to
do damage.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
To your kids and to your daughters very specifically. You
have to understand this. You have to understand it.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And look again, I am also in a marriage with
a woman who is not black, and it is your
job as a black man. You gotta be on your shit.
You gotta be on your shit because the woman that
they look up to the most is not a black woman,
So you gotta do double duty to make sure that
she is around and understand these three girls, understand.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
What power they have as black women. And you cannot
live in a world where it's like it's all race neutral.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
These girls are brown. Okay, they're not as brown as you,
but they're brown. No one's gonna be like, I guess
they have a tan.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
They're brown. So you need to prepare them for the world.
And your wife, if she isn't already, I have no
fucking idea what her opinions are. Frankly, I don't give
a shit. But your wife also has a responsibility in
that she does. She also has a responsibility, and.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's as oursibility of marrying and having kids with a
black man.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
You also have a responsibility in that ship. You gotta
do the best you can. You got to put them
in front of people who know more than you. You
gotta ask ask questions.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You gotta try to learn if you don't know, and
even if you think you know, you still gotta ask
fucking questions.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
And that's the thing that people don't talk about you
have to fucking you have to reach out and try
to get better on that ship. You have to. That
is your responsibility because you had those kids too. You
don't get to make them just white. That's not how
the world works.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Look, I will uh, I will end it with this. Okay,
this is a tweet that I am reading. Quote blame
ESPN for this, Angel Rehys, Ryan Clark RG three dust
up the world Wide Leader, ruined sports and turned it
into a quote and rit embrace race debate debate spelled
(40:07):
d dash b a I t as in race baiting. Right,
this is what Disney did by making Stephen A. Smith
the gold standard. ESPN birthed Ryan Clark's emmy witting televised bigotry.
That is a tweet from Jason Whitlock. Oh if Jason
(40:29):
Whitlock is on your side, your won like that like
that's it, that's it, that's it. And if you if
if Jason Wood likes on your side, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah yeah, like it is Disney buying ESPN. This is
the like.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Like Obama created racism. Shit, Like if racism wasn't there
then Obama became president, then that's when racism started, like
when Disney body ESPN, that's when racism in sports started.
All right, hey guys, let me know. Let me know
what year it was when donn im Is called black
black girl's nappy headed hose on fucking morning television.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Let me know when that? What year that was?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, white people love to push off all of their
decades of bigotry and go uh uh a black.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Guy said something. I don't agree with that guy? Did it? Okay,
Obama created racism? You motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Motherfucker was the first black black president, but he's the
one who created it started with all right, yeah, I noticed,
we got we got quite a few white opinions, uh,
in our our comment section on the last preview episode
about the white woman who called a five year old
kid with autism the N word, and they were like, well,
(41:48):
what about what about this?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Let me just say this.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Let me just save you guys some clicks. I am
completely uninterested, and I think I can speak for everyone
on the show. We are completely uninterested in your dumb,
fucking white opinions.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
We just start. That's it.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I mean, you know, if you if you want any
child a fucking if you're grown up, and you're calling
a child a fucking name, like a slur for God's sake, right.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
A slur of all things?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Like why why are you defending that?
Speaker 4 (42:19):
But what about when the black guy did this other thing? Okay,
that's bad? What does that have to do with this point?
Like what does this have to do with that? Right?
More things could be bad, Like many things can be bad, guys, and.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
We're talking about this specific bad thing.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Well you don't want to talk about that thing. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Is there a list that we have to go through
based on your again, your useless white opinions?
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I don't think so. I don't think so. So go
make a video. Yeah it's weird. No, what else is weird?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Jason Whitlock lusting after h RJ three's wife. Quote that's
not two percent milk, that's whole milk. It's this cringey
ass ship bro.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Like it's like it's wait, wait, wait, that's no.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
But I know I'm gonna I'm gonna defend Jason Whitlock
for a second because and this is a wild take,
but that's like why see that's not real though, right,
because we know for a fact that he got busted
looking at gay porn when he had tweeted out that
whole thing about hey, why am I getting these gay
porn ads? And everyone's like they're accustomed to you, and
(43:28):
he was like, I'm gonna delete this tweet. So he
doesn't really want RG three's wife.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
He likes dudes, but he's two in the closet about it.
So in fairness to him, this is all nonsense. That's
just that's just a that's just a gay man giving
a compliment to a woman, which is fine. It's totally.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Jason Whitlock is one of the worst people on the planet,
not because he's good, but because he talks.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
All right, that's it for us. That's a true story.
Guys like you can look it up. He got totally
busted in that ship and he got that's funny. Uh,
that's the worse.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Okay, that is it for us. Look next week, episode
two eighty three, Sinners is going to be a good
fucking time, I'm sure, So look forward to that. We
will see you guys next week.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
See you we yeah, yeah yeah,
I know I did less about the villain, right now,
go find the last down before me change.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let's rappor chase on it, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello, and welcome to a brand new preview episode for
Black and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm here
with my co host Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, guys, we're back just the two of us
this week. Uh, this is a preview for episode two
eighty three Sinners. All right, So, I know everybody was
excited finally for us to do this movie. It's coming
next week. I'm excited, can't wait to talk about it.
So we'll give the log line.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a lot to uh, there's a lot to unback
in that movie.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We'll see now.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Of course, nobody's surprised, so I'll give the log line
as if anybody really needs that. Trying to leave their
troubled lies behind, twin brothers returned to their hometown to
start again, only to discover that an even greater evil
is waiting to welcome them back. Written and directed by
Ryan Coogler, obviously starring Michael B. Jordan and Michael B. Jordan,
(01:13):
Miles Canton, and Saul Williams.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
That's dope.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I saw Saul Williams in concert number years ago. So yeah,
I don't know. I have not watched it yet. I
will have a chance to watch it before next week's show.
I'm very very excit.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So do you know anything about it?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I I know, yeah, No, No, I know some things,
and I've i have luckily been very very very lucky
to not have major things spoiled for me. Like I mean,
I know, like who and what the Like, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Know what the plot. You know what the plot is,
but like even if you know some of the stuff,
like there's one sequence in it that has to be
seen to be believed, Like it's I mean, I think
that guy might know what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's what I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Saying, right, Yeah, I mean I've I've heard like sort
of like little little conversations and I'm just like, don't
want to hear it, please, just I just want to
go in as blind as possible.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
So, but I am looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So if you're if you're looking forward to the Center's episode,
we will talk about that in depth next week. Okay,
random topic this week. Going from excited to very annoyed
h r G three back on the back on the
preview episode because he got into it with Ryan Clark
from the Pivot podcast about his supposed thought that uh,
(02:42):
Caitlin was a Kayton. Caitlin Clark and Angela Ree they
have like they hate each other or Angel re see.
I don't watch basketball, especially any level of professional sports
really at all, but Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark have
this like beef and very specifically that Angel Rees, a
black woman, hates Caitlin Clark, a white woman, to which
(03:04):
he got a lot of shit for saying that RG
three did from sports journalist obviously from Ryan Clark, very specifically,
and they had a little bit of a back and forth.
I'll go to you first to get your general thoughts
because this involves like RG three's wife who is white
and obviously he's black, and you know this idea of
(03:27):
RG three not understanding about what it is to be
a black person in that or to understand what black
and women go through in athletics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So go, So, yeah, this all stemmed from you know,
if you follow any type of you know, sports, you
know that the w n b A is kind of
on an upswing, and a lot of it has to
do with the rivalry between Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese,
(03:57):
who are not the best players, but like Asia Wilson
is probably the best player all all around. But Caitlyn
Clark is kind of like the most important player right
now because like her stardom has kind of driven white
people to kind of enjoy this, and and Angel Reese
(04:22):
is but but they've had this rivalry like through college, right,
so this is not like a new thing, right, and
Angel Reese is like a college champion and Caitlyn Clark wasn't.
And they they've kind of taken this rivalry into the
professional leagues. They're kind of like the Magic Johnson and
(04:43):
Larry Bird of the w NBA, right, Like it's it's
getting people excited to watch women's basketball, which is a
good thing for everybody. But here's the thing with Angel Reese.
Every everybody talks about Kaitlyn Clark, right, like she's like
this phenom, right, and Angel Reese is kind of Angel
(05:07):
Reese is kind of like that Jordan me, right, And
I took that personally right because she's like she's going
on record and say, hey, man, like the w the
w NBA is getting you know, a lot of shine
but it's not just about one player, right, I'm a
part of this too. A lot of us are part
of it. And she's getting like a little frustrated, right
(05:30):
because in interviews people ask Angel Reese about Caitlyn Clark,
not necessarily the other way around unless they have some
direct interaction.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So this is the sophomore year, and the w NBA
is like, hey, let's put the fever against the sky. Right,
there's the two teams they play on first game of
the season. Everybody's gonna watch it. Right, during one point,
I mean, that's just good booking. Right, during one point,
(06:01):
Kaitlyn Clark committed a hard foul on Angel Reese and
you got to realize, yo, like the the first year,
their rookie year. I mean, people were put enough boots
to Kaitlyn Clark, you know, like people I remember that,
they're like yeah, right, like welcome to the welcome to
(06:22):
the w right, like like now we're not fucking around.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Right, And by the way that like people try to
make a big deal of that, like they're treating I
was like, that's what happens when you get a big
name rookie coming into a professional sports.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That happens no matter gender, Like, that's just the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, it's just the thing, man, It's just it's just
the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Right. Like, but you know, white.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
People are desperate to play victim, right, like they need it,
right and yeah, not all of them, but like enough
of them, right, and and this is their great white hope, right.
And so this season, like Kaitlin Car's not having that ship.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And at one point during the game, Andrew Reves goes
up for a layup, an easy layup. Caitlyn Clark makes
a hard foul, a deliberate hard foul, right, No, no
easy shots, right, she makes it play on the ball,
but it's a very hard foul.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You could argue that Angel Rees uh flopped. You could
argue that the foul was too hard whatever, right, Like,
there's a lot of flopping in the NBA. I would
assume it would translate to the w n b A.
But the foul happened. Andrew Rees gets up and she's like, Yo,
(07:37):
what the fuck is the problem? Right, and she has
to be held back. Caitlyn Carr turns around, She's just
like whatever, Right, it's in the heat of competition. Right
after the game, everybody's like it was a Kaitlyn car
is like, look, it was a player on the ball,
refs gaming flavorant for it. I don't think they should have,
but I respect the decision. Andrew Reese is like, the
(08:01):
rest got it right? Moving on, literally, that's what she said, right, because.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
That's it right, that's it soious an egregious response.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because because she's so sick and tired of people asking
her about Caitlin Clark understand right, which is understandable, right, Like,
and the way people are I'm giving you all this
background just to kind of illustrate a point. The way
that certain white people are treating Angel Reese is fucking
(08:40):
egregious because they because they have the you know, basketball
is generally stereotypically dominated by black players, right, Black players
are really really good and what at at at being
like at the athletics of it, and white people tend
to be good it at the fundamentals of it.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And the way that some of these white fans are
treating Angel Reese, I mean they're calling them like racist
names and shit like you know, and and they're they're
literally doing an investigation right now because someone was heard
hurling insults at Angel Reese on like a racial level
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or something like that, and everybody's come out and says
there's no place in it, but like it happens, and
it happens a lot, right, and.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Do what they do in soccer? Do you know what
they do? Like because that got so open.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They chan't like they wear like monkey masks and shit.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh yeah right yeah whatever, the professional soccer I don't
know whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Who Baltimore Blast.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
The Faithful Organization. I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I'm unbelievably ignorant about sports. They basically instituted a rule
I guess on the like the higher level soccer at least,
like if you get caught doing that, the players can
sue you. And like the very first player to win
a lawsuit is a black player obviously.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And dude was like, I love it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Y'all keep saying whatever the fuck you want, Like I'm
gonna sue your rest IN'SO fucking oblivion.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah yeah, that's what you should do.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Like you don't get to you don't get to come
to a game in her racial insults. It's ridiculous, like this,
it's a game.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's a game.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's a game, you know, it's it's one thing to heckle. Right,
there's another hate speech is another thing right on any direction, right,
nobody should be calling anybody fucking names and shit, it's
just dumb.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Look, I get it, I get the arguments. I want
to been like, but what about free speech? Yeah, I'm
just giving an example, okay, in free speech laws in
Europe are very different than here. Anyway, if you if
you need to defend that's not.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
How free speech works in America either, well it is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But like you really feel the need, white people in
the comments to defend someone yelling racial epithets, I would
just say that someone needs to feed you your own teeth.
But look, that's that's me.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
But that's also a free speecher. Sure, so it's fine anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I give you all that background right to kind
of put the whole rivalry in context. Now, the ever
the hot take machine, Robert Griffin goes on Twitter and
he's like, nah, you don't get up like that and
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ready to square up. And unless you really hate somebody, right,
Andrew Reis hates Caiton Clark, right, and he's just like
adamant about it for some reason, and like it's a
weird take, right, Like it's a bad take. That's a
bad take. It's a weird take. It's like, okay, like
(11:50):
even if even if it's true, like why are you
bringing this up?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
And he's like, well, I got evidence, right, Like I
got evidence, and and he gives he cites examples of
how someone in the heat of competition gets pissed off
at another player, right like.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, no, you don't do that. You don't do all this,
and I'm doing I'm head snaking because that's what he did.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
He was mocking her with his wife, by the way,
in the background with his wife like ah, yeah, you're funny,
you're funny.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Right, and and he but he does this in fairness, right,
he does this and is like okay, uh, okay, this
is weird, right, especially coming from you. R G three,
a guy who recently said we shouldn't have all this
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other stuff revolving around sports, right, it shouldn't be about
like politics, It shouldn't be about all this stuff. It
should just be about the sport, right.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like, all right, that's always can I mean that, that's
the that's the great concern.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And I don't know if he's concern.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If I had to make a guess, I would say probably,
but he's not very smart, so I would argue probably
is conservative. But yeah, that that's a classic thing, you know,
like why are you bringing politics into stuff and then
immediately when it is convenient to your argument, the politics
comes in first off, or you know, racism or something
like that, like they are nothing but hypocritical.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So yeah, right, and he's basically big up in Caitlyn Clark.
By putting Angel Reese down, you can pick up Kaitlyn Clark.
Kaitlyn Clark is is a phenomenal athlete, like she she
is quite frankly, she's got the w NBA on her
back right now, right, like people are tuning in to
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right in terms of popularity. And she's a good player,
like she just she just did. Like it's just the
point of fact, but like there's a lot but there's
a lot of great players there too. But he's putting
her up by knock Angels down, and right, that's the problem, right.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right, And he's not doing it based on skill, and
he's also not doing it right.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
He's also doing it in a weirdly ahistorical way of.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Looking at sports. And here's a prime example of it.
Look again, not a big sports guy feel.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Free, but I'm I'm a conversation about it, right.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I am not a big sports guy. However, I do
in fact live in the world, and so this is
why RG three is so like his viewpoint is so
a historical to me. There are two people on television
right now, Charles Barkley and Shack work together. Are friends,
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clearly very close friends. Shaq and Barkley both tell the
story from their own perspectives of how they got into
that almost gone to that fist fight. Well, they did
get into a fist fight in the middle of a game.
Shaq literally said, I was mad because I meant to
leave with my left so I could knock his fucking
head off.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Is a quote from him.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
They literally got into a fistfight in the middle of
the basketball game because I guess it was a foul
or whatever, and Barkley threw the ball and hit Shack
on the head.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Shaq was a younger player, Barkley is an older player,
trying to fucking be like, hey, get the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You're not gonna come in here and just run shit.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And they almost they almost tried to damn near kill
each other in that fistfight, and their moms are the
ones who ended up breaking that shit up, like over
the phone, like knock the shit off, right, So to
pretend like athletes don't get super fucking heated, like this
is their job, like you were an athlete RG three
in the middle of a game, there's there's money on
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the line. They're more importantly than money.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
In those cases. It's your fucking massive egos that are
on the line.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
All of that shit get you hyped. So even though
you may be like, I'm a fuck this guy up,
I'm gonna punch this guy in the face. Yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Years later you're like yo, Like you're cracking jokes on
TV together and you're like best friends. Because that's not
their their their their competitiveness isn't doesn't dictate who they
are in all aspects of their lives. And look, you
may know more about football than me, you may understand
sports more than me, but I understand logic clearly better
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than you. You don't like your job, isn't It doesn't
define like your job. Relationships don't define how you are
in all aspects. This is not a Tyler Perry movie
where the way you do one thing is the way
you do everything, Like that's stupid and that's a that's
a poor bit of logic, right, that movie is so dumb.
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But like when I saw him say that, I was like,
that doesn't make any sense. There are tons of players
who have There are people who have not gotten along
on you know, in in their particular sport, and they
still don't get along.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
In real life.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
But there are absolutely other there. There are way more
examples of people being very heated in moments of athleticism
and then they're just like all right, well, like the
fuck that's a job. Like they literally that's what they do.
How many boxeses Mike Tyson try to fucking murder and
then he has them on their podcasts and they're like
laughing about it and ship they do.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well, here's here's.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Here's the thing that I don't think, uh Robin Griffin
like gets.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Really specific about this one.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There's a lot you're you're when you say stuff like that,
you're playing into the angry black person trope, right, Yeah,
and that's part of Ryan Clark's point too. Yeah, you
you are really playing into that and it's not it's
not healthy for anybody. It's already it's already you know,
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perceived that Angel Reese is the villain or whatever. She's
already the villain to a lot of people whose you know,
great white hope. Is this precious little you know, flower child, right.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And and that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Kaitlyn Clark is not even like that, right, Like she's
from what I can grab them, right, She's getting wrapped
up in white people's horse shit about this and like
because I've seen interviews are like she gives like all
this like homage to all these you know, black female
players that came before her, Like she's not she's actually
not like the shittier versions of her fan base, which
I'm glad people seem to be able to differentiate because
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it's the Internet and people are really bad.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
At that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So I've seen I've seen people. I've seen people leave
comments when she says stuff like that like we made you,
we we we How could you say that?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like you you weren't shooting in the gym? Get the
fuck out of here, Like like are people okay, Like no, no,
they're not. She's super weird, man, But you know, it
gets it gets to the point where it's like you're
you know when you hear that stuff like these are
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these are children guys, not children, but like I don't
mean to belittle them, these are these are young women,
like very very young, Like they're in their early twenties.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And when you hear, when you constantly hear you are
the you're the villain, You're this, you're that, You're the
like remember when remember when who's the gymnast? Simone Biles
was like, hey, I got to step away for a bit. Yeah,
and people were just like.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You don't have the heart of a champion, right, Like,
like she was like.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yo, I couldn't see where I was going when I
was doing flips, I would die Like okay.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Girl, takes some time.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Just fuck But but that's the thing that he doesn't
understand is that as much as you get it, black
people get it in a different way, and black and
women get it in a different way. So being a
black woman, it is just compounded, right, And he doesn't
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understand that because he lives in a he lives in
what I'm being very generous with him, he lives in
what he perceives as a post racial.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
World in my opinion, right, I think he thinks that's
a very that's very generous.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm trying, dude, I'm trying because I.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Know it's a certain topic. I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna look. Oh look, look.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I know what it's like to be the weird nigga
that black people don't like. Right, So I try to
give So I tried to get. I tried past tense.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
To give that dude some grace.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But I'm I'm done.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You know, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Like this dude's a fucking weirdo. I looked at his
I looked at his response to Ryan Clark's response before
I saw Ryan Clark's response right, and.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's like, man, you came after my family.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Man, you just there's just a line you don't crush
and you sprinted to that line, Ryan Clark, you a
better man, bro. And I looked at all the comments
and every single comment was like this, ain't it?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Take this down? Everyone was like that's not what he
said at.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
All, what he said at all. And then I said,
you know what, let me go back and look at
this Lion Clark fan. And Ryan Clark is such a
nice guy.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
He is.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He's he's forty five ish, he.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Is enlightened.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
In terms of what black athletes are, but with black
athletes in front of microphones have to say, he's he's.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Quite the enlightened individual. And I saw that what he said,
and he's he's a very thoughtful person. And I like,
I like that guy a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yea, And yeah, I mean I'm not a big sports guy,
but the clips I've seen, and you know, segments I've
seen from Pivot are very very good. All the all
those guys are really good.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, and and you know they talk about like real shit,
right and he breaks down. You know, well, I don't
agree with the take. Here's why they're here are the
systemic reasons why. You know, Like he goes into background,
he's like, hey, I've met rg III.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
You know, he's he's he he is what he is.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I met his family. You know, his wife is really nice,
you know, like he compliments his wife and like, so
I'm like, where's the attack, right, And I'm just waiting
for somebody to ask Robert Griffin, what were you offended by?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I just need somebody to do that. I you know
what I think it is.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I think he didn't like the fact that he brought
up his wife. I think that's just all it is.
I think that's all it is. Like I think he
and I think he didn't bring up his wife in
a way that was because I think he was deferential,
like he was just like, yo, I think that she's
more than her color, right, Like I think she's a
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smart knife.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's what he says, right, right, And I think that
I think that's what did it right, right, because I
think that's it's more putting a mirror up to RG
three and his comments. And I think he didn't like
that reflection. He was like, you're going after my family.
He was like, you didn't go up to your family like.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
He quite literally was kind to your wife. And he
didn't say it in a sort of like sarcastic way
at all. He was just like, no, I think she's
just more than this like one note thing that you
make her out to be. Like He's like, right, Which,
by the way, if you really want to piss somebody off,
you play you pay compliment to their wife in a
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way that shits on them. That's a perfect respect. That's
a that's the difference between him being forty five and
RG three being thirty five. Like that is a skill
you learn just with age. You don't have to you
don't have to hit somebody directly. Sometimes a bank shot
works even better.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Right, it's a class it's a classy ass this man,
it's a classy backhanded dis.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, your wife is great. You should treat her better.
And you're like, I don't treat her. Yeah, that's what
you're right, right, And.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And you know when I was, I was incredibly impressed
because I wouldn't have said all that ship, like I'd
have been like this niggas. Look, I don't call I
don't like calling people coons, but like, nah, you know,
get your trash pan to ask up out of here
with that ship.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like that's that's the whole that's the whole podcast. I'm done.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
No, But here's the Like I thought Clark's point was
really really good, right, like, listen, you don't his his
overarching point was you're saying that you think that she
hates her like, which is which is a weird take. Again,
we discussed all the points of why that's a historical
it makes no sense, but you're saying that, but you're
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also helping, like you said, you're throwing fuel on a
fire of these racist fans. Of hers, and you're putting
angel Rees in a worse position, right because you're saying
this thing that you're basing this on a heat of
the moment thing, Like that's silly. Now if you just said,
like you could have even said, oh, on the basketball
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court they hate each other. This is like a weird
choice of words. But I don't think anybody would have cared.
But you were like, she hates her, and then you
put period hate like you were like really trying to
fucking send that home when you tweeted that shit out.
But and Clart made the point of like, because you're
not married to a black woman, that perhaps you don't
understand like what you're doing, right, like the level of
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fucking gasoline you're throwing on that and to paint her
as this kind of this hard villain in this situation
is really fucked up. And he was like, you don't
sit and have those conversations with your wife about what
a woman of color is going through because she's white, right.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, He's not wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Now. RG three's response.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Is, well, I have a black mother, I have I
have you know, black daughters like daughters, right, which is
a valid response, but it doesn't address what he said. Yes,
you may be raising young black girls, but that doesn't
mean that you're having that conversation with them now, right.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You may, you may, in fact have that conversation with
them later.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I would hope that you would, but it doesn't mean
that you're having that conversation now, right. Like if again,
my wife and I don't watch sports, but if we
were watching this and following this, my wife is a
woman of color, we would be having a conversation about
like that's kind of fucked up, of like the difference
in how these two people are being treated. Right, But
your wife isn't a woman of color, So the chances
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are now in fairness, Clark isn't he is assuming this right,
But I would argue that his assumption were normally, I
would be like, well're kind of speaking from a point
of ignorance, but we can tell in the way that
you behave with your wife, right, Like we can make
assumptions based on how you talk about right, based on
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the like, oh, I bet you didn't know a white
girl could do this, right, Like, right, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Not that boy. You gotta drink some of that milk, man,
all that milk you gotta drink some milk.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Man, Like, yeah, he's really weird about gross nigga. So
like that's your wife you talking about, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Like right, but she but she seems to be cool
to like, oh, happy milk and National Milk and Cookie
Day and they're like standing there or whatever, and I'm like, Okay,
that's really fucking weird, Like it's super funny at home.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
They gotta do is weird? Okay, It's like that is
fucking guarantee, I guarantee you she she calls him nigger like.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Hard r.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
That's the only way you get.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Thank you, right probably, But okay, so I you and
I are both of you and I are married to women.
That's a very weird way to start this straight like
just so everyone knows boss right, no, but for real,
we're not kidding, but a very strange way to start suns.
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But our perspectives are different. You are married to a
black woman, so your perspective on this is is a
very one to one, right, which is like, hey man,
what the fuck, Like, don't don't do that to black women?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Right, like, because you can see that you can, I
mean obviously can see it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But also women, right it just it's it's that male
thing of like, wait a minute, I got daughters. Maybe
I should start carrying about women.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Now like that one dumb white boy one of the
Jake Paul.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Logan was like, I didn't realize women had it so
hard now that I have a wife and a daughter.
Holy shit, bro, fuck thanks you fucking moron.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad the world shook you
and you woke up. Yeah, it's basically like that.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So that is your perspective, right as as a black
man being married to a black woman, you can see
that sort of that one to one connection directly through
your wife. I have a different connection to this, which
is my wife is not white, or my wife is
not my wife is not black, but she's half white,
half Indian.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Right, here's my thing. I am very two thoughts of
this one. Nobody cares about your diverse colored marriage. No
one cares. No one cares.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
RG three and your wife missus RG three, all of
you fucking weirdos on TikTok. Hey, this is my white
girlfriend or my white boyfriend and I'm black and I'm different.
Hey I drive like this and then they do taxes
like this No one cares about your comic view version
of your marriage or relationship.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's dumb. You are not fucking special. Nothing matters. You
may be special in different ways.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Maybe you can throw a ball, maybe you can sing
a song, maybe you can do cool shit on a computer.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I don't know. But the color of your skin versus
the color of the skin of your partner is not important.
This is not nineteen sixty five. You're not fighting for
civil rights. You're just marrying the person that you love.
And that's fine. And I'm saying this as a person
was in an interracial marriage. You're not special for that reason.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
At the same time, I need people to also stop
basing what they think of interracial marriages based on dumb
niggas like RG three and his wife and other stupid
people on the internet.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That's not how it is.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You know, what an interracial marriage is like is just
like a monochromatic marriage. I always like to say that
because it's just funny. Right.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
It's the same. It's the same as your marriage. There's
no difference.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Mike's wife drives him crazy, just like my wife drives
me crazy. We drive our wives crazy just the same.
There's no difference, guys, there's no difference. What is it
like being married to somebody's not black?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
The same thing is like being married to somebody who is.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Like, yeah, there are racial issues you can talk about
as a direct experience, but ninety nine point nine percent
of it you.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Just marry Like that's it. There's no fucking difference.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So I fucking hate when people, especially black men, try
to make it out to be some like special thing.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Gotta drink milk. Look how different it is it it's not.
It's not. You're not special. You're not special. I can
guarantee you. You're just You're You're not a unique, beautiful
and unique snowflake. You're just a nigga who's good with
the football. Who cares. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
That being said, stop denigrating other women, black women in
this case, very specifically, to big up your wife who
is white. If you have to do that, what it
says about you is that you're insecure about your relationship,
not that they have a problem.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You're insecure. RG three.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
You're insecure about your marriage. That's why you keep bringing
up black women. That's why you keep bringing up her
race and everything else.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Hey, look us Look what I got. Look what I got.
Look what I got, Look what I got. Because you're insecure.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
You know how much I talk about my wife's race
as far as like comparative to other people, I don't do.
You know how much I give a fuck about what
other people think of my marriage because my wife isn't.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Black, I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I don't give a fuck, and that in that way
of like, go fuck yourself. I don't give a fuck, right,
Like if somebody said something denigrating, of course that's different, right,
it wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Matter what color she was. But I don't care, Like,
I don't give a shit, And I don't understand why
people think that it matters or doesn't matter. It doesn't,
it doesn't. Just go live your life. So so people
have been, uh, you know, calling for the wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
People have been calling for Ryan Clark to be removed
from ESPN because he's a he's a contributor on ESPN.
They comment on the fact that he was once in
a relationship and has a child with a white woman,
Okaye's ex wife or whatever, and this is this is,
this is what's real.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Fucked up. Someone I saw someone posts.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
An image of Ryan Clark, and I guess is his
wife next to RG three and his wife and said, well,
I can see why Ryan Clark's met that that RG
three has a white wife because she's not built like
the white people's version of what they think a black
woman should look like. Right, she's not like a royal
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centric woman with a tan, right, she's not like she
she's fine, right, but she don't look like a white lady,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Like she's not as perfectly attractive woman.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
She's perfectly attractive, but she's not like an athlete or
whatever like his like RG three's wife, and it's just like, nigga,
like this is what this is what you're doing, you know,
like you're you're you're you're literally having dudes out here
comparing women, and it just I don't know, man, Like
I don't know, like the whole victim thing, like look right,
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all right, you're not a victim.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I'm gonna say something that's maybe not nice. RG three's
wife just she looks like a trophy wife. She just
looks like a trophy wife. Like that's not impressive to me,
Oh my god, Like I don't think you should be
comparing them anyway. I think that's fucking stupid. But if
you just like, oh, she's pretty, yeah, I mean, okay,
(34:40):
I guess she's skinny with fake tits. Congratulations, okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
All right, like is this this is the this is
the high bar for you. I don't know. Listen, man,
very weird. Look, you can RG three, you know you can.
You can have weirdo takes and you can. You can.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You can be proud of your wife, right, like everyone
should be proud of their spouse, right, like.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Right, you should think she's the baddest check on the planet.
No problem, right, no problem though, But but it's not
a zero sum game, right. You don't have to you
don't have to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Clan, you don't have to put down other people directly
or indirectly to pick up your wife. And you don't
you know, I don't know. It's weird, bro, it's weird. Look, Tiara,
I don't like to chime in. No TIERR wanted to
try him in. She said, if you guys talk about
RG III, I'll note that he may love his wife,
(35:44):
but he fetishizes her because she is white and gets
embarrassed for getting caught out on it, and then uses
his black daughters as a shield no way. He talks
to his daughters about what black women face when he
tries to be race neutral ninety nine percent of the time.
This latest fiasco is just another example of that. Yeah, man,
(36:06):
like I get it. You know, race is a sensitive
thing and you don't necessarily want you don't want to
see it, or you don't want to live in a
world where you want to live in a colorblind society.
Always tell people that that's not the way to approach life.
The way to approach life is to see color, acknowledge it,
(36:27):
and you know, see your differences, but not let them
divide you. Like, being colorblind is what white people do
when they don't want to see, when they don't want
to accept the fact that like, black people or other
people might be different. No, no, you're just like me.
You're just like me, right, No, I don't want to
(36:48):
be like you. I want to be like me and
you just be cool with it, just like I'm just
like I'm cool with.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
You being you. Maybe as a people we are a
little too cool, right, Like, we don't have to let
redheads be black now, guys.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Now, apparently now we don't have to let redheads because
guess what, because guess what. Those redheads didn't want that
black girl playing aerial in the Little Mermaid, So get
out of here with that ship, all right, Like, but
that's just like, that's just a tangent. Right, we can
be cool, but we're not the same.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
No, we're not cool no more. It's Andy and I
have been laughing. Look for all week. It's so stupid.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Look, man, Also, ginger is an anagram of nigger, So
maybe we're not as far away from each other as
we think.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
They treat them people for no reason.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Look, I mean, in all honesty, it's look, you got
RG three has three beautiful daughters. Images you gotta You're
thirty five, and it's gonna sound really weird because I'm
ten years older than you. Much of Ryan Arcis. You
gotta grow the fuck up, then, because your perspective on
(38:06):
black women and thinking it doesn't matter and not recognizing
the full scope of what you're doing is going to
do damage.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
To your kids and to your daughters very specifically. You
have to understand this. You have to understand it.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And look again, I am also in a marriage with
a woman who is not black, and it is your
job as a black man. You gotta be on your shit.
You gotta be on your shit because the woman that
they look up to the most is not a black woman,
So you gotta do double duty to make sure that
she is around and understand these three girls, understand.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
What power they have as black women. And you cannot
live in a world where it's like it's all race neutral.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
These girls are brown. Okay, they're not as brown as you,
but they're brown. No one's gonna be like, I guess
they have a tan.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
They're brown. So you need to prepare them for the world.
And your wife, if she isn't already, I have no
fucking idea what her opinions are. Frankly, I don't give
a shit. But your wife also has a responsibility in
that she does. She also has a responsibility, and.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's as oursibility of marrying and having kids with a
black man.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
You also have a responsibility in that ship. You gotta
do the best you can. You got to put them
in front of people who know more than you. You
gotta ask ask questions.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You gotta try to learn if you don't know, and
even if you think you know, you still gotta ask
fucking questions.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
And that's the thing that people don't talk about you
have to fucking you have to reach out and try
to get better on that ship. You have to. That
is your responsibility because you had those kids too. You
don't get to make them just white. That's not how
the world works.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Look, I will uh, I will end it with this. Okay,
this is a tweet that I am reading. Quote blame
ESPN for this, Angel Rehys, Ryan Clark RG three dust
up the world Wide Leader, ruined sports and turned it
into a quote and rit embrace race debate debate spelled
(40:07):
d dash b a I t as in race baiting. Right,
this is what Disney did by making Stephen A. Smith
the gold standard. ESPN birthed Ryan Clark's emmy witting televised bigotry.
That is a tweet from Jason Whitlock. Oh if Jason
(40:29):
Whitlock is on your side, your won like that like
that's it, that's it, that's it. And if you if
if Jason Wood likes on your side, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah yeah, like it is Disney buying ESPN. This is
the like.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Like Obama created racism. Shit, Like if racism wasn't there
then Obama became president, then that's when racism started, like
when Disney body ESPN, that's when racism in sports started.
All right, hey guys, let me know. Let me know
what year it was when donn im Is called black
black girl's nappy headed hose on fucking morning television.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Let me know when that? What year that was?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, white people love to push off all of their
decades of bigotry and go uh uh a black.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Guy said something. I don't agree with that guy? Did it? Okay,
Obama created racism? You motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Motherfucker was the first black black president, but he's the
one who created it started with all right, yeah, I noticed,
we got we got quite a few white opinions, uh,
in our our comment section on the last preview episode
about the white woman who called a five year old
kid with autism the N word, and they were like, well,
(41:48):
what about what about this?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Let me just say this.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Let me just save you guys some clicks. I am
completely uninterested, and I think I can speak for everyone
on the show. We are completely uninterested in your dumb,
fucking white opinions.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
We just start. That's it.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I mean, you know, if you if you want any
child a fucking if you're grown up, and you're calling
a child a fucking name, like a slur for God's sake, right.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
A slur of all things?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Like why why are you defending that?
Speaker 4 (42:19):
But what about when the black guy did this other thing? Okay,
that's bad? What does that have to do with this point?
Like what does this have to do with that? Right?
More things could be bad, Like many things can be bad, guys, and.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
We're talking about this specific bad thing.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Well you don't want to talk about that thing. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Is there a list that we have to go through
based on your again, your useless white opinions?
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I don't think so. I don't think so. So go
make a video. Yeah it's weird. No, what else is weird?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Jason Whitlock lusting after h RJ three's wife. Quote that's
not two percent milk, that's whole milk. It's this cringey
ass ship bro.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Like it's like it's wait, wait, wait, that's no.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
But I know I'm gonna I'm gonna defend Jason Whitlock
for a second because and this is a wild take,
but that's like why see that's not real though, right,
because we know for a fact that he got busted
looking at gay porn when he had tweeted out that
whole thing about hey, why am I getting these gay
porn ads? And everyone's like they're accustomed to you, and
(43:28):
he was like, I'm gonna delete this tweet. So he
doesn't really want RG three's wife.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
He likes dudes, but he's two in the closet about it.
So in fairness to him, this is all nonsense. That's
just that's just a that's just a gay man giving
a compliment to a woman, which is fine. It's totally.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Jason Whitlock is one of the worst people on the planet,
not because he's good, but because he talks.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
All right, that's it for us. That's a true story.
Guys like you can look it up. He got totally
busted in that ship and he got that's funny. Uh,
that's the worse.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Okay, that is it for us. Look next week, episode
two eighty three, Sinners is going to be a good
fucking time, I'm sure, So look forward to that. We
will see you guys next week.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
See you we yeah, yeah yeah,
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