September 12, 2025 • 47 mins
This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to announce the next film to be reviewed, Spike Lee's "Highest 2 Lowest" starring Denzel Washington, and Jeffrey Wright, Ilfenesh Hadera, and A$AP Rocky. The film follows a titan music mogul who is targeted with a ransom plot, causing him to be jammed up in a life-or-death moral dilemma. The random topic this week is about the recent public killing of rightwing hatemonger Charlie Kirk in front of thousands of college students in Utah. At the time of this recording, the suspected shooter (Tyler Robinson, 22, white male) had not be apprehended by the FBI.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know, I did a lesson about the villains.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right now, don't find the last down before make change.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And let's wrapper chase on it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new preview episode for Black
and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with
my co host Micah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hey, Hey Terrence, what's up? All right? Guys, we are back.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is a preview episode for eighty seven Highest to Lois. Uh.
This is obviously the new Spike Lee, Denzel Washington, Jeffrey
Wright an ASoP rocky movie. This is available on Apple TV.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
If you have that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So the long line here is when a Titan music
mogul is targeted with a ransom plot, he is jammed
up in a life in a life or death moral dilemma. So, uh,
look is Denzel Washing and then Spike Lee. So that's
the I feel like it's the It's our Generations version.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Of Ryan Coogler Michael B.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Jordan's right, Like it's kind of like those guys really
don't miss when they're together.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, it's Denzel Washington and Spike Lee in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Like, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What's this movie about? I don't care, I'm gonna watch it.
And it's gonna be fun, all right. So look for
Highest to lowis next week in Depth. So we were
trying to figure out a topic and then one just
kind of fell into our laps. Unfortunately, today right wing
debate bro pseudo celebrity I guess on the right, Charlie Kirk.
(01:45):
He was giving a he was on his college tour
where he debates college students and says, in my opinion,
horrendous stupid shit and his proved me wrong tour taking
Back America. He was shot and killed publicly in front
of thousands of people, And I guess the argument or
(02:10):
the situation has kind of called for like people shouldn't
say bad things, people should be empathetic, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Some people on the right are blaming Democrats, even though
they don't even have the shooter at this point, so
they don't even know who or why this person did it.
People on the left are anywhere between laughing about it
(02:35):
and saying, oh, we we shouldn't, we should be very respectful.
This sucks, and you know, we should have gun control.
I'm not gonna be one of those people who sits
there and pretends that like nobody on the left is
making fun of Charlie Kurk getting shot. That's simply not true.
And I've seen creators be like, no, you don't see
that from the left. Yeah you do, Yeah you do, Okay,
like you do, maybe not left creating.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I literally saw someone dancing, Like, I literally saw someone dancing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So it's happening, right, Like, we don't.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We don't have to.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We don't have to play purity politics.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You don't have to pretend I'm one of them. I'm sorry,
I'm going to be. I'm gonna be an asshole this episode.
If you if you have empathy for this nigga, you
might want to turn it off because.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know, and I'll be one of those people standing
in there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like here's the thing, I'm not religious. I'm not the
Christian on this episode. I'm not the Christian in this group.
Neither is j that's Mica. So he's going to be
the moral center right, Oh this way, this nigga I hate.
He's going to be the the the the the moral
center for this episode because.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
This episode the first time on this show, You've got you,
you got your Martin Luther King Junior and to Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Xtas like nothing I don't. I'm just I just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, so let's get into it. I'm gonna go ahead
and echo Terrence's point. I feel nothing. I look, I
feel I'll be honest, I feel sorry for that guy's
family because they're not the people out there saying the
horrendous shit that he says. But they got to in
door it right. He's got like a young daughter, he's
got a wife, and you know, he's got friends and family,
(04:13):
what have you.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Unfortunately, I hope his wife marries a better man than
he was, remarries so his chill, so his uh you know,
so what his daughter grows up to be a better
person than he was, that's it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So maybe his wife will be happier. Maybe I'm just
like I said, I'm going to be a fucking dick.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No again, you're not going to hear any complains for me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's not say something nice. Christian forgive, forgive all the time.
You know. I I think that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I I like, in seriousness, Uh, I don't believe that
we should be shooting people we disagree with.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I just don't. I'm shooting.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The occasional punch in the face maybe, but you know
we we shouldn't be we shouldn't be shooting people. We
do need you know, common sense gun control, right like
we do at the same time, like I'm not some
bleeding neck lib, bleeding heart liberal.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Who's I misspoke? I misspoke?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, all right, Look I I do.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I do genuinely feel sorry if that get That guy's
got like two kids.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And uh and I hope they. I hope they get
a better step farther than he might have been a
great fun in private.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But like you know, right, but like I do feel
sorry for his children, and I do you I feel
sorry for his children, I really really do. I can't imagine,
but you will find it. You are a fool if
(06:15):
you think that the three of us are going to
have a sad for a hate longer dying.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm just I don't. I don't care. What I will
say is I hope his.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
What's the opposite of a sad.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm not going to have a glad, But I'm certainly
not going to have a sad like I like that guy.
That guy made a living. He that's how he fed,
That's how.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
He became popular being a hate being a hate monger. Dude,
he literally hated everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And I don't know if it was even if it
wasn't like even if it wasn't like in his heart
or whatever. I feel like, I feel like, if it's
an act, it's even worse. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
If it's an act, then it's even worse. Now, nobody
deserves to die for that. But like, I'm not gonna,
I'm not gonna be at your funeral, man, like I
(07:22):
you know it quite frankly, the real question is which
one of the three of us is gonna say the
camera on line first.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I saw it earlier, that one like you tough.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know, I'm just saying I may have said it before.
I may have said it earlier today you tough, right,
Like here's here's here's These are just some quotes from
Charlie Kirk. This is the one that writes keep writing like,
I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately
some gun deaths every single year so that we can
have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights.
(07:59):
He was he was a big proponent of the Second Amendment. Also,
you will never live in a society when you have
an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death.
That is nonsense. It's driven. I have a quote for
those are exactly those are his words.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Okay, I have another quote from Charlie Kirk quote. I
can't stand the word empathy. Actually, I think empathy is
a made up new age term and it does a
lot of damage.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So the replacement of white people is far more sensor
than any redistriching project. I'm just running down quote.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's a good Yeah, yeah, he likes he said like
Mike I said, he is, he's a hate longer.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And look, I got a quote. I got a quote.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Don't allow emotions to dictate gun policy. Tyrants would love
nothing more than to capitalize on an evil tragedy as
an excuse to confiscate your guns and limit your ability
to protect yourself. You know when he said that after
your Valdi like this is the type of person that
(09:06):
we're dealing with, guys, So like yeah, and you know
everyone is coming out, and you know, every politician is
coming out like oh please please, this is not this
is not cool. It's not cool.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Let's not do it because they don't want to get shot.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Okay, and I.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Can get right and look and look, I agree, nobody should.
This shouldn't happen to anybody. That's literally our point, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Even in the death of Charlie Kirk, we're not advocating
for changing the law to allow for this to happen more,
we're trying to prevent it. That's the weird thing, right
you you hear right wingers will die of some like,
you know, medically preventable disease because they don't have healthcare
or whatever. People who have literally argued against universal healthcare.
(10:00):
Liberals will come out and be like, that person's a dickhead,
but they didn't deserve to die from this thing that
they could have been saved from. We should have healthcare. Like,
we're not using the argument of like, less healthcare for people,
more guns for people who've gotten killed. We're literally arguing
for the systems to fix the problem that has exacerbated,
(10:20):
that's gotten to the point where these people are being harmed,
including him, who I think is a reprehensible human being.
Was was yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Check.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So like the thing is the rights. The rights inability
to address the most obvious issue in the room is
so irritating to me because you like, it's obviously guns,
it's unfettered access to guns. Like this guy was shot
(10:55):
in the middle of making a statement. Someone asked him
in the crowd, hey, do you know how how many
mass shooters there are? And his response was do you
mean gang related or not? As if like gang violence
is the reason that all of these mass shootings are happening,
which we know is is in fact not true.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And and make no mistake, make no mistake, I'm sorry
to cut you off. Make no mistake. Gang violence is
fucking code.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's right, even right before he caught a bullet in
the neck in Quebec, and well in summary, I think
I'm sorry that was it. You're an asshole, Yeah, even
before you caught the bullet, and that he was still
being a fucking racist ye to the day. He was
doing what he loved when he was shot. Yep.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And so he gets shot, right, that happens under the
banner because the universe is fucked up under the banner.
Prove me wrong?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is the name of his tour, Yeah, the Matrix bro.
Like I said earlier that he wrote that screen today,
the irony is absolutely in.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think we live in I think we live in
the next grand theft auto, you know, like I I like, like,
I firmly believe that, Like, no, stop going to New York,
California and Florida. Just make a grand theft Ato capital
city and then just have it and just have it
be about all this nonsense.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You'd have a field day. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I still think that's goat that got near the Hadron
collider that really fucked it up. Like we're in a
different we all died and we're now we're now in
a different timeline. But this guy did not believe in,
you know, did not believe in empathy, did not believe
in you know, not sort of you know, dunking the
(12:45):
ball when people got hurt, said horrible shit about Paul
Pelosi when he was attacked. Right, Paul Pelosi not a politician,
not in politics at all, like Charlie Kirk is, you know,
politically adjacent, right, his politics adjacent, but he's not in
that ship. And that guy was attacked and almost killed,
but he thought that shit was funny.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Ha ha ha, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So like I see people like Nancy Mace and other
Republicans saying, you know, this is the thing, you know,
this is Democrats fah blah blah blah, blah. Again, you
have no idea who who's doing the shooting. You don't
know that, right because you know, you could say, oh, well,
he was a right wing guy, so it must be
a left wing person.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
The guy who shot Trump was right wing right, like, like,
you don't know, you don't know the you know, the
thought process of at all. Sometimes they try to kill
people to start a race war or whatever fucking lunatic
shit they do. But she wanted to talk about how
this was a big deal, that this was horrible right now,
(13:43):
But she doesn't have that same level of fucking smoke.
When twenty kids get killed in a school, right then
if you bring it up and you want to talk
about the details of like gun gun violence, or we're
talking about you know, you know, restrictive gun laws and
things like that, then that's being too political because one
of their guys that they use to push out propaganda
(14:04):
to fucking gullible college students, he got killed. But twenty
innocent five year olds or what have you, they get killed,
and somehow we can't talk about that. So my empathy
for these people has largely died. I can be empathetic
to their children, stuff like that because they don't deserve
to have to grow up without a father and stuff
(14:25):
like that. But make no mistake, this is his fault.
This is his fault. You spend all of your time
and effort on planet Earth. What is much of an
audience that you have by not doing good things? And
I'm not coming from a Christian perspective or whatever. I
don't give a shit about any of that. But your
job on the planet, I teach my six year old
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is is to leave the planet better than when you
got here. That's the most basic shit. You don't throw
trash on the ground, and you try to help people
when you can. You don't try to divide the country
and bring in fascis to subjugate people. So you got shot.
That sucks that it happened in public and people had
to fucking see that. I wish you could have gone
(15:08):
away in a different way that wasn't like this, that
you didn't feel the need to stoke your entire fucking
career on being a hateful, bigoted piece of shit. But
you get what you fucking deserve because you do terrible shit.
You do you do terrible shit, and that's what happens
to you.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He was. I was in high school in nineteen ninety
nine when Columbine happened. I was in I was a
senior in high school. Charlie Kirk was like five or
six years old when that should happened, right, So he's
his whole life, he's seen tragedy after tragedy as far
as like school shootings and things like that, and that's
(15:48):
still that's not a thing for us growing up. Never, right,
we didn't see that. I didn't see that until I
was almost twenty, like you know, y'all, y'all, y'ao will
literally just out of high school when that happened, right, yeah, right,
in ninety eight. Yeah right, I didn't see that shit
until my fucking senior year in high school. He was
five or six when that happened. Yet he's still managed
to fucking No, he was probably younger than that. He
(16:10):
was born like ninety.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Four, maybe he was born in ninety three.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Ninety three, so yeah, he would have been six years old.
And you see this your whole life. You see these
these traged shootings, you see the Columbine, you see he
was in he was like probably nineteen when a new
town happened, right, So he was still a teenager when
that one happened. You see all of this, but you
still live your life like guns are fine, we need more.
(16:37):
That's weird, you know. I don't see how anyone under
the age of like thirty still believe, has been, still
believes that guns are the greatest things, and like the
Second Amendment is great and all this other shit when
you see nothing but like tragedy. Nothing good comes from
the fucking barrel of a gun. At the end of
the barrel of a gun, nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I mean I don't
like this dude.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I think he was a piece of shit, But like,
like you said, you didn't deserve to be shot. No,
but you know, I'm not gonna be sad about it.
I don't really give a fuck because, like you, you
brought this on yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well not only not only did you bring it on yourself,
you're also advocating for policies that get other people killed.
You're advocating for more guns that gets young kids killed
in school. It's not like, hey, I'm just a conservative
and people are like, yeah, just kill that guy. That's
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not what's happening. There are standard fucking run of the
mill conservatives who have their views, people can't fucking stand them,
but they're not out there advocating for like, hey, I
don't really give a shit that other people got hit
in the head with a fucking hammer or they're not
doing that necessarily. And some of them are, some of
them are not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But I'm not saying, Hey, if I see a black pilot,
I fear for my life. I don't want to get
on that plane because DEEI this is these are the
he's like just outside of the gun shit, Like he
just said just horrible things about all other other groups
of people besides white men. Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I my topic of choice I was gonna bring up
before this actually happened. I was driving the other day
and I was just I was just thinking because I
saw this guy's videos. Black dude had a video. It
was about this one conservative black dude, I don't know
his name. He's a fucking ass clown too, And he
was like, why is it that black conservatism? Because he
(18:36):
was like, this guy doesn't like he's not just a
black conservative, but he doesn't like black culture, anything with
black people. He don't fuck with right, And he was like, look,
I grew up, and I had a mentor when I
was like in high school who was a black conservative.
He was like, but the guy like ran a program
to like help inner city kids out, Like he didn't
hate black people, like he was just conservative. Like, Okay,
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you like fiscally you believe whatever you believe, right, And
I just start to think, right, well, I also, and
I'll make this point in a second, fiscal conservatism and
like socially liberal doesn't make any fucking sense. And if
you say that, you're an idiot, and I'll prove it
to it. And I fucking hate that logic. Oh I'm
one of these things. And then the complete opposite in
every way to the shutting. You've thought about this nine
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seconds and you just want money that that's not the
same thing. It's just being physically conservative. So yeah, that's
just rib.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Even fucking liberals don't like paying taxes, want to be broke.
If we're going to pay them, we want them to
go to something that helps the society.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Right, Yeah, we're not. We're not advocated for like no taxes.
It's fine, that's dumb.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's stupid argument.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So like, and so his point was like why being
why does being a black conservative equal you have to
hate black culture. And I started thinking about it. I'm like,
I don't understand when people talk about the culture wars.
I now realize I don't know what that even means anymore,
because like when I when I think about like the
culture wars, which is what and to make it about
(20:08):
to connect them? Back to Charlie Kirk, that's all he is, right,
He's a he's a culture war guy, right, just for
the right. They always call liberals culture warriors, but in
fact the right has just as many of them.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But what I was thinking is like culture wars used
to be in the United States. Like the best one
I can think of is like in the sixties, like
hippies being like hey, man, like free love is cool,
and conservatives like, I think that might do damage to
the family structure, and you know you should be like
x y Z.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Those are like two sides that you could debate on
without hating each other and be like, well, I agree
with this or I don't agree with this. Culture wars now,
as they're called, are just I agree that this group
should have equality, and the other side is like, yeah,
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, right, kind of culture one side is like, we
don't like these people. The other side is like, yo,
can we just leave us the fuck alone and let
us do what the fuck we want to do? That's it,
and so that's it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So who's what are we talking?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Are the culture warriors? Who are the culture warriors in
this particular in this instance? Is it them? We don't
there's no war on our side. We're just like, Yo,
what the fuck is wrong with you? Niggas?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Y'all keep y'all keep throwing punches like nigga, we just
standing like we're just standing here.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't like this. I don't like gay people, like
we ain't did nothing to.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You, okay, all right, don't like them over there?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right? What do we do?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Like they're just gonna get married? Could you just stop
knocking on their door yelling at them like they're not
they're not at your house? Like it's so it's just
I just thought about that. I'm like, I don't understand
where we are, Like like I hear democrats like like
put you know, sort of like political democrats. And this
is one of the things that drives me crazy about
Bernie for instance, like we gotta get away from like
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the culture culture wars type of arguments. It's like, but
the wars at this point are fundamental to human rights.
So your guy, Charlie Kirk, for instance, is literally out
there arguing against equality for human beings, the treatment of
human beings that they're livelihoods, and in cases of guns,
(22:17):
that they even fucking can exist, right, not not have
fucking zygote or whatever, but an actual breathing human being
cannot exist because of the policies that you put forth.
And the other side's like, hey man, you want to
go hunt and shoot deer, that's fine, but could you
not have an automatic rifleg just go walk into a
school and kill a bunch of kids. We're kind of
(22:38):
not okay with that. And they're like, yeah, I disagree,
all right, dumb fuck what are you talking about? And
by the way, yeah, to my point earlier about the
fiscal conservative socially liberal buffoons who say that shit, you
can't be because socially liberal things like having equitable housing
and people being treated equally in society. You know, an
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equitable treatment across all swaths of life requires money, you
fucking dumb shits. And if you are a fiscally conservative
person who doesn't. I don't want to spend money on that.
I don't want to spend money on that. Then you're
not a socially liberal person. You just like to say
that because you know that the socially liberal things are
normal thinking ideas, that's all. And so you're just greedy
(23:22):
and you just want money and like that.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Just greedy. You just don't want to pay taxes.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Right, None of us want to pay taxes, right, you
know I should look at all this money I made.
Oh it's gone.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
As a liberal, I love this, no said, no liberal ever?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Shut up? Shut up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We would all love to pay lower taxes. But I
also like to have the roads not have giant holes
in them, right, Like I would rather my tax does
not go to blowing up brown people around the world.
How about building a man?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Rather, I'd rather have my taxes going through feeding children
than blowing up fun.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
This year, you want to pay this, nigga? Want to
pay for kids lunches at public schools?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I have no issue with that. What
is wrong with like when you put it in those terms,
they sound insane.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It sounds insane, like are you get a part time job?
I'm fused while I'm at school.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was like, I started. I worked on a far when
I was fourteen years old, and I'm like, nigga, you
are like forty five years old. No you didn't. Stop
fucking lying though, No you didn't. I had a job
working this when I was fourteen. I'm like, yo, you
probably like ten years old. Stop lying. He was a
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fucking Republican on some state, some fucking channel. I'm like, yo,
you're just making up shit. You're not that old. You're
just not I don't in the vaccines against feeding people
feeding children. It's like, what is that coon and fucking
Florida man? Oh the surgeon general in general? Yo, I
(25:00):
ain't never heard no ship like that. I'm sorry, we're
going on tangents.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
He's a surgeon general and said, who am I to
tell you what you should put in your You're the doctor, bro,
the that is doctor.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You were probably vaccinated as a kid, because you're not
that old either.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
One hundred percent he was one hundred percent. God damn man,
vaccinating these children is like slavery.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
All of those people in the crowd that you want
to When he said that ship you motherfuckers were vaccinated
as children? Every last one of you. Why you're not
dead now? And now you're clapping because like, look, this
is the type of ship Charlie Kirk would be like
advocating for, Yes, dumb ship.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Charlie Kirk literally went to South Korea ship. Yeah, Kirk
Kirk literally went to South Korea. The other a couple
of weeks ago or a few days ago, what have you?
And he did he was like, oh, he was walking
around and now he's like, look how safe it is?
Violence is a choice? God's like, how safe this place is?
Is safe because they have gun restricted laws and it's
(26:17):
safe and and people are healthy and happy because they
have universal healthcare, two things that you rail against. Shut
the fuck up, like no choice?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, okay, you know violence is a choice. So is
all the fucking rhetoric that you're speaking correct, that's also
a choice?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Terrible, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I look, I do hope
they catch this person. I hope because I want to
pick that person's brain. I want to know.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Why you did it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And yeah, I would really like to know why they
did it, and I would really like them. I mean,
I would really like it to be who I think
it is. I mean, it happened in Utah, like.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I unless it was one of the basketball plays, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It ain't a jazz, one of the jazz.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So did he do it that the last person? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
No, is that. I highly doubt it's a black dude.
They would have picked his ass out of a crowd.
Jamal it was Jamal right there we saw right. So,
I mean, but here's the thing, even as he like,
like we talked about, even as he got shot, he's
trying to make a conversation, you know, move the conversation
that that is black people's violence in this, in this
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in the United States, that's really causing all of this
gun violence. Better one black person?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, not really, No, not really, we know, quite literally,
quite literally. I went to my wife and I said,
who do you know who Charlie Kirk is? She said, no,
Captain Kirk. And then I explained every day, I'll tell
you the rest of that story when we get off
the podcast. But but she but she she didn't know.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
She didn't know who he is. Those people don't. Yeah,
someone sent me a message showing me somebody actually sent
me the fucking footage. I'm like, as I've already seen it.
And she was like, I don't know who this person is,
but judging by all the people dancing on the grade,
he probably deserved it. And I was like, don't get ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, so you know, I mean this is this is
from the same party that in twenty seventeen, Steve Scalise,
who is a member of Congress, was shot by some
crazy left wing guy. We shot him and he like
shot them in the hip or something like that. See,
Scalice is still out there and being like, we need
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more guns, and I'm just like, you learned lessons worse
than my six year old daughter. There's no way I
get shot in a mass shooting. And then I'm like,
you know what, more guns. Let's let's triple down because
they're so fucking they're so red pilled about, you know,
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the only solution to this is to add more weaponry
into it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Remember how many guns?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Why isn't it fixed?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I wrote that the crime Bill, the crime build that
they signed into low in ninety three. With ninety three,
one of the one of the part of the bill
was an assault rifle band remember that, And that actually
stopped a lot of gun violence in the nineties. It
was overturned to twenty in two thousand and four, and
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here we are.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And if you, if you, if you look at the
timeline of when that was not renewed, the amount of
mass shootings has gone up exponentially. Now that's you know,
causation does not equal correlation or correlation does not equal causation.
But I would I would have if I had hazard
A guess, I would say it certainly did not hurt
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the argument. So but these people don't. They don't believe
in logic and reason.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
They don't. They don't, and I know they don't believe
in facts over feelings, although that's what they always say
to us. Do you know? The funny part about people
like him is like, we're either soy boy cooks a
bunch of pussies, but will beat the ship out of
you out of the if you don't get incredibly violent,
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which one is? Which left are the soy boys that
are will beat the ship out of you? So who's
the pussy in this? But that's you? The bitch ass
niggas are us? Because we if we beat the ship
out of you for being cuks and we're also cucks,
what does that make.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You it's sort of a.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Makes you the bitch, like you a big you the
biggest bitches, Like I don't know, like we just wanting
to be left alone. If someone says I want to
be known as they them, you lose your ship.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
They can't handle it, you lose your mind.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm like, I think it's mean personally. I'm like, I'm
telling me what your name is. Bro Right, it's not
going to lose my mind and say this is culture war.
It takes nothing right. It's like we're losing our country.
It's like from who what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Who's winning?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Who's winning? It's a it's a bizarre dichotomy that they
have in their brain. They can't they can't square that circle.
Like we're either, like you said, incredibly violent or up
on ships.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean class, that's a class. That's a classic fascism thing. Right,
the enemy is incredibly weak but also incredibly strong at
the same time.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's like okay, like like a mastermind but also a
brain addled idiot. Yeah, which one was it? Like? Which one?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Is it relating the deep state? Also, he should be
put in a home. Pick one, just pick Is he
doing it from the home? So look again, I don't care.
To be honest, I just don't care it is. I'm
not I'm not going to celebrate the guy's death.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'm really not.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
What I will say is this one less bigoted piece
of ship who sows division and everything else, not being
not being out there spewing that rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's not a bad thing.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I wish he just would just retire from that and
not have gotten killed.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Seriously, that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, I I hate to I hate to bring this up,
but you know, I'm gonna read Richard's this moment if
if you've said nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Want to kill our baby.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
The fact that this.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Dude was murdered in such a public way in front
of so many people, like the and the right is
already going to treat this dude like a martyr. Yeah,
you know, it's one of those things where it's like, hey,
Obama got elected, isn't this wonderful?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And like that was.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
The lynchpin for all the biggots and racists and assholes
to just let their biggot flag fly. And I have
a feeling that this is another.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Canon event.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That that will activate a certain class of scum and
I hope not, but just prepare for it.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And so my wife said, Hey.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
We're not going into d C anytime soon. We're not
gonna be anywhere where any politician is.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We're not gonna be. I'm gonna be working from home as.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Much as I can because I gotta drive through DC. Now,
we're gonna, We're just gonna, We're gonna be here in
Maryland for.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Look.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I think I said it on the show. I don't
plan on going to d C until that motherfucker is dead.
I'm not going into that city. Nope, Oh Trump died,
all right? Is somebody else president? Is it not jd Vance,
Then I'll go into d C. I'm never going back
into that city. I'm not going into a city basically
under military occupation. I don't care if they got these
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niggas cleaning up trash. Shit is nonsense, no fuck off, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Don't I don't know what people expected.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I really don't.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You can only do this type of rhetoric and say
terrible shit and do terrible shit and sow division and
hatred for so long, and now you live in you
live in a world, and you live in a time
where people are losing their money, they're losing their jobs,
they don't have their health care, and people don't have
shit to lose. And when people don't have shit to lose,
much like a wild animal cornered, they can get very
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vicious and very violent.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And your policies made it incredibly easy for them to
get guns. There's four hundred million guns in this country.
There's three hundred and forty seven million people in goddamn country.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Right, and a lot of kids, so they don't even
have guns, right, So that number is not a one
to one. By the way, Utah had passed the law
making it making it aokay.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Thumbs up, guys, Cool, cool, you're gonna change that. You're
gonna switch it around. Now, they're gonna double down.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You gotta have two guns.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You're gonna do ship from with us if there's a sniper.
Because apparently that's what happened. Yeah, they say like two
hundred yards away, feet yard or whatever, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
It's like five hundred feet something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm not I'm not a gun guy, but seems far.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It's very far, and that's still what happened. What it
did to him just proves that the human body is
incredibly fragile, and guns are made to do nothing but kill.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's right, that's two football that's two football fits, not
including the end zone.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Right, So it's further than Oswald shopped Kennedy. So why
why were you able to purchase that as a just
a citizen? Why were you able to purchase such a weapon?
What do you need it for? Well?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
What if the deer is really far away? Move closer,
my nigga, like molos, get better.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's manners. I have deer right off the outside. The
niggas don't move for ship.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, you gotta get super close and loud because like
they'll look at you like they'll be eating.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Like I had to. I had to build a.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Fucking fence around my backyard to keep them deal away
because they don't move like, nigga, you're not exactly like
you're not exactly hunting the predator, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They get hit by cars, yo, cars fucking gas powered
loud right, you ain't here heard me?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
They're not bright.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
So yeah, and in all seriousness, you read what you saw.
Did you put that shit out there?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Man? You did?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And that's why we tell people don't do that it's
not good, and I hope people don't get hurt. To
Mike's point, on the other side, I don't want anybody
to get hurt on their side either, I don't, but
maybe stop pushing for you know, pushing rhetoric that is
pro fucking people's lives up, Like when is the wake
(38:23):
up call? When is the wake up nigga? When the
when the president got shot at? And they're just like,
maybe more guns, Like, what's the solution. If it's more guns,
where is the number? Is it five hundred million guns?
Because it doesn't feel like it's solving anything.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Can we at least try it happen weekend weekend?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Put them in a lock box. We'll just see what happens.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
For a week.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Oh shit, nobody.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Happened back in twenty thirteen or twenty twelve, and they
didn't do shit. I'm like, yeah, there we cooked twelve
years ago. Twenty children, any.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Babies, white town, white white babies, and no, but that's important.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, you're right, that's very important.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, because if it was twenty black kids in Chicago,
they've been like, get give all the kids handguns.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I guess I'm tough, right right exactly, But no, they
still literally did that. The you tough right niggas get
shot every day to the twenty little white boys, the
white babies, like that's crazy. They don't give a fuck
about like so the whole like, you know, pro life motherfuckers.
I don't want to get ship from y'all because that
shit happened twelve years ago and we still haven't done
shit about fucking guns in this country.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I thought we were a Christian nation. We're not. But
that's what they say.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, like thet kids die and you said, well, we
need more guns. Maybe should have see through backpacks or bulletproof.
That was that was the bulletproof backpacks, fucking more metal detectors,
more cops in the school. First of all, no harm though.
Now armed.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Arm drones, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I saw that. Oh my god, Yo, that definitely top
it out of a locker flying through the fucking Yo.
What's wrong with us? Then?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Anything to avoid the most obvious answer in the world.
Maybe we should restrict guns a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I don't know, But the.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Problem is we are so far, we are so through
the looking glass at this point. Like you said, there's
four hundred million guns, you're not gonna confiscate.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Any of them.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
So they're already out there. They're just out there.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Just a lot of fucking guns. Though, that's a lot,
it's so many guns.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I think you should be able to have. I think
it was like Joe Biden who talked about this a
couple of years ago. He was like, I think people
should be able to have a handgun.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, you have a rifle for hunting if that's what
you want to do, and you get a shotgun, that's it.
It's like you go outside, you wrack the shotgun. People
leave you fucking love. Like if somebody breaks into your house,
you rack a shotgup, people are like, you know what
you heard. I gotta got to get the fuck out
of here. That's a that's a very good sound as
a detern.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
What the fuck you need an AR fifteen four? And
I'm sure there's gonna be some fucking ass clowns in
the comments like, well they are fifteen I don't give
a shit. You don't need it, you don't need it, but.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I want it.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, I forgot. I want a million dollars. Like what
the fuck it is? Like, who cares what you want?
People are being shot and killed. But those are criminals,
they're criminals. Yeah, well, here's the problem. They have easy
access to guns.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
They do.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Why are there still loopholes and shit that you can
buy guns at a gun show? Why is it that
there's no national registry of guns. If you're so cool
with everybody having guns and you're all law abiding citizens,
then why can't you register your gun with a national registry?
Why in some states you're not even allowed to put
(41:58):
it in a digital form? They write the shit down, Yes,
it doesn't because you're so afraid, I'm so you're so
afraid that it can be put into a database that
anybody across the country can find. So they're like, nah, no,
just write it down in like a fucking ledger.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
It's not eighteen seventy six. What the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Democracy by candlelight? According to fucking conservatives, it's stupid as shit.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
It's stupid as shit.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And if you say, oh, the gun laws are fine
where they are, you're a fucking moron. You're a fucking moron.
And Charlie Kirk is the biggest one of those, because
all the advocating you did for all of this shit,
you suffered, your kids and your wife now have to
suffer the fucking consequences of what you did. You're supposed
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that's what pisses me off. Actually, as I think about it,
that's what pisses me off the most. You're supposed to
protect your children, and what you did put them at
a loss for you to grow up with you.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
You fucked up. Yeah, we'll marry a better human being
than he was.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I hope it's a black dude, and I hope he's
a livery actually, you know what. I hope he's Latin.
I hope he's I hope it's a Latin gentleman.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Good.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, and a black woman gives birth to another one
of the twitch to their child.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Just why not look man before we go? Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Something actually really sad happened today that unfortunately will get overshadowed.
One student has died and three more were injured in
a shooting at Evergreen High School Wednesday afternoon, the day
that we are recording this. The local hospital confirmed the
death but would not share any other details about the
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student who died. Three students, including the shooter, were being
treated at the high spital for gunshot wounds. A fourth
student took themselves to the hospital with injuries sustained while
escaping the high school and fleeing to a nearby elementary school.
The Jefferson County Sheriffs Office said that the alleged shooter
was a sixteen year old male who suffered a self
inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Yeah, there was a
(44:18):
shooting at a school. And where was Colorado. I don't
know what the fuck Colorado's problem is. Guess just the
air too thin, mind, don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
What is going on in Colorado, but this story is.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Tragic, and I just wanted to let people know that,
like this is happening.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
And school just started, like a week and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, school just started, and we're off to the races.
And and you know, I don't mean to speak for
the dead. I can only imagine the rhetoric that would
come out of his mouth about this.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yep, so.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And and and and it's gonna get overshadowed because this
guy who you know, every life is important, right, or
lives murder right, But like he's not, he's he's he's
just a popular guy on the internet. Like the quote
(45:32):
that old Chris Rock bit right, Martin Luther King was assassinated.
Malcolm X was assassinated. This nigga got shot.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
This nigga just got shot. To pocket me, that niggas
got shot exactly. That wasn't an assassination. No, it was.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
A murder from an internet celebrity. And while it is tragic,
I I you know, I said it before, You're gonna
be hard pressed for me to to to weep for
a hate longer. I just can't. I just can't.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, I'm not gonna use that and made up empathy
that he talked about, That's that's a bunch of bullshit.
You know I got.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I got empathy for his kids, for these other kids,
how about that?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And I got right, and I got empathy for these
for these children who got shot in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well i'll give you.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
I'll give you a sort of a modified quote from
Colonel Jessup from a few good men. His death, while tragic,
probably saved lives.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
So yeah, I just don't. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Tragic and grotesque probably save lives. So look, don't live
your life where people celebrate. Millions of people probably celebrate
your death. It's a simple fucking rule in life. If
a bunch of people are like, I hope that guy died.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You lived a.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Poor life, did you did?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
So we'll see what happens next. That's the look, everybody, all.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Right, We will be back uh next week with highs
to Lois again. You can watch that on Apple TV,
directed by Spike Lee and starring Denzel Washington and Jeffrey Wright.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So later, guys, go to see you.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I know, I did a lesson about the villains.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Right now, don't find the last down before make change.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And let's wrapper chase on it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new preview episode for Black
and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with
my co host Micah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hey, Hey Terrence, what's up? All right? Guys, we are back.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is a preview episode for eighty seven Highest to Lois. Uh.
This is obviously the new Spike Lee, Denzel Washington, Jeffrey
Wright an ASoP rocky movie. This is available on Apple TV.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
If you have that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So the long line here is when a Titan music
mogul is targeted with a ransom plot, he is jammed
up in a life in a life or death moral dilemma. So, uh,
look is Denzel Washing and then Spike Lee. So that's
the I feel like it's the It's our Generations version.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Of Ryan Coogler Michael B.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Jordan's right, Like it's kind of like those guys really
don't miss when they're together.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, it's Denzel Washington and Spike Lee in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Like, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What's this movie about? I don't care, I'm gonna watch it.
And it's gonna be fun, all right. So look for
Highest to lowis next week in Depth. So we were
trying to figure out a topic and then one just
kind of fell into our laps. Unfortunately, today right wing
debate bro pseudo celebrity I guess on the right, Charlie Kirk.
(01:45):
He was giving a he was on his college tour
where he debates college students and says, in my opinion,
horrendous stupid shit and his proved me wrong tour taking
Back America. He was shot and killed publicly in front
of thousands of people, And I guess the argument or
(02:10):
the situation has kind of called for like people shouldn't
say bad things, people should be empathetic, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Some people on the right are blaming Democrats, even though
they don't even have the shooter at this point, so
they don't even know who or why this person did it.
People on the left are anywhere between laughing about it
(02:35):
and saying, oh, we we shouldn't, we should be very respectful.
This sucks, and you know, we should have gun control.
I'm not gonna be one of those people who sits
there and pretends that like nobody on the left is
making fun of Charlie Kurk getting shot. That's simply not true.
And I've seen creators be like, no, you don't see
that from the left. Yeah you do, Yeah you do, Okay,
like you do, maybe not left creating.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I literally saw someone dancing, Like, I literally saw someone dancing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So it's happening, right, Like, we don't.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We don't have to.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We don't have to play purity politics.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You don't have to pretend I'm one of them. I'm sorry,
I'm going to be. I'm gonna be an asshole this episode.
If you if you have empathy for this nigga, you
might want to turn it off because.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know, and I'll be one of those people standing
in there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like here's the thing, I'm not religious. I'm not the
Christian on this episode. I'm not the Christian in this group.
Neither is j that's Mica. So he's going to be
the moral center right, Oh this way, this nigga I hate.
He's going to be the the the the the moral
center for this episode because.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
This episode the first time on this show, You've got you,
you got your Martin Luther King Junior and to Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Xtas like nothing I don't. I'm just I just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, so let's get into it. I'm gonna go ahead
and echo Terrence's point. I feel nothing. I look, I
feel I'll be honest, I feel sorry for that guy's
family because they're not the people out there saying the
horrendous shit that he says. But they got to in
door it right. He's got like a young daughter, he's
got a wife, and you know, he's got friends and family,
(04:13):
what have you.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Unfortunately, I hope his wife marries a better man than
he was, remarries so his chill, so his uh you know,
so what his daughter grows up to be a better
person than he was, that's it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So maybe his wife will be happier. Maybe I'm just
like I said, I'm going to be a fucking dick.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No again, you're not going to hear any complains for me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's not say something nice. Christian forgive, forgive all the time.
You know. I I think that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I I like, in seriousness, Uh, I don't believe that
we should be shooting people we disagree with.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I just don't. I'm shooting.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The occasional punch in the face maybe, but you know
we we shouldn't be we shouldn't be shooting people. We
do need you know, common sense gun control, right like
we do at the same time, like I'm not some
bleeding neck lib, bleeding heart liberal.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Who's I misspoke? I misspoke?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, all right, Look I I do.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I do genuinely feel sorry if that get That guy's
got like two kids.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And uh and I hope they. I hope they get
a better step farther than he might have been a
great fun in private.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But like you know, right, but like I do feel
sorry for his children, and I do you I feel
sorry for his children, I really really do. I can't imagine,
but you will find it. You are a fool if
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you think that the three of us are going to
have a sad for a hate longer dying.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm just I don't. I don't care. What I will
say is I hope his.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
What's the opposite of a sad.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm not going to have a glad, But I'm certainly
not going to have a sad like I like that guy.
That guy made a living. He that's how he fed,
That's how.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
He became popular being a hate being a hate monger. Dude,
he literally hated everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And I don't know if it was even if it
wasn't like even if it wasn't like in his heart
or whatever. I feel like, I feel like, if it's
an act, it's even worse. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
If it's an act, then it's even worse. Now, nobody
deserves to die for that. But like, I'm not gonna,
I'm not gonna be at your funeral, man, like I
(07:22):
you know it quite frankly, the real question is which
one of the three of us is gonna say the
camera on line first.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I saw it earlier, that one like you tough.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know, I'm just saying I may have said it before.
I may have said it earlier today you tough, right,
Like here's here's here's These are just some quotes from
Charlie Kirk. This is the one that writes keep writing like,
I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately
some gun deaths every single year so that we can
have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights.
(07:59):
He was he was a big proponent of the Second Amendment. Also,
you will never live in a society when you have
an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death.
That is nonsense. It's driven. I have a quote for
those are exactly those are his words.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Okay, I have another quote from Charlie Kirk quote. I
can't stand the word empathy. Actually, I think empathy is
a made up new age term and it does a
lot of damage.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So the replacement of white people is far more sensor
than any redistriching project. I'm just running down quote.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That's a good Yeah, yeah, he likes he said like
Mike I said, he is, he's a hate longer.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And look, I got a quote. I got a quote.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Don't allow emotions to dictate gun policy. Tyrants would love
nothing more than to capitalize on an evil tragedy as
an excuse to confiscate your guns and limit your ability
to protect yourself. You know when he said that after
your Valdi like this is the type of person that
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we're dealing with, guys, So like yeah, and you know
everyone is coming out, and you know, every politician is
coming out like oh please please, this is not this
is not cool. It's not cool.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Let's not do it because they don't want to get shot.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Okay, and I.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Can get right and look and look, I agree, nobody should.
This shouldn't happen to anybody. That's literally our point, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Even in the death of Charlie Kirk, we're not advocating
for changing the law to allow for this to happen more,
we're trying to prevent it. That's the weird thing, right
you you hear right wingers will die of some like,
you know, medically preventable disease because they don't have healthcare
or whatever. People who have literally argued against universal healthcare.
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Liberals will come out and be like, that person's a dickhead,
but they didn't deserve to die from this thing that
they could have been saved from. We should have healthcare. Like,
we're not using the argument of like, less healthcare for people,
more guns for people who've gotten killed. We're literally arguing
for the systems to fix the problem that has exacerbated,
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that's gotten to the point where these people are being harmed,
including him, who I think is a reprehensible human being.
Was was yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Check.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So like the thing is the rights. The rights inability
to address the most obvious issue in the room is
so irritating to me because you like, it's obviously guns,
it's unfettered access to guns. Like this guy was shot
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in the middle of making a statement. Someone asked him
in the crowd, hey, do you know how how many
mass shooters there are? And his response was do you
mean gang related or not? As if like gang violence
is the reason that all of these mass shootings are happening,
which we know is is in fact not true.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And and make no mistake, make no mistake, I'm sorry
to cut you off. Make no mistake. Gang violence is
fucking code.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's right, even right before he caught a bullet in
the neck in Quebec, and well in summary, I think
I'm sorry that was it. You're an asshole, Yeah, even
before you caught the bullet, and that he was still
being a fucking racist ye to the day. He was
doing what he loved when he was shot. Yep.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And so he gets shot, right, that happens under the
banner because the universe is fucked up under the banner.
Prove me wrong?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is the name of his tour, Yeah, the Matrix bro.
Like I said earlier that he wrote that screen today,
the irony is absolutely in.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think we live in I think we live in
the next grand theft auto, you know, like I I like, like,
I firmly believe that, Like, no, stop going to New York,
California and Florida. Just make a grand theft Ato capital
city and then just have it and just have it
be about all this nonsense.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You'd have a field day. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I still think that's goat that got near the Hadron
collider that really fucked it up. Like we're in a
different we all died and we're now we're now in
a different timeline. But this guy did not believe in,
you know, did not believe in empathy, did not believe
in you know, not sort of you know, dunking the
(12:45):
ball when people got hurt, said horrible shit about Paul
Pelosi when he was attacked. Right, Paul Pelosi not a politician,
not in politics at all, like Charlie Kirk is, you know,
politically adjacent, right, his politics adjacent, but he's not in
that ship. And that guy was attacked and almost killed,
but he thought that shit was funny.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Ha ha ha, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So like I see people like Nancy Mace and other
Republicans saying, you know, this is the thing, you know,
this is Democrats fah blah blah blah, blah. Again, you
have no idea who who's doing the shooting. You don't
know that, right because you know, you could say, oh, well,
he was a right wing guy, so it must be
a left wing person.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
The guy who shot Trump was right wing right, like, like,
you don't know, you don't know the you know, the
thought process of at all. Sometimes they try to kill
people to start a race war or whatever fucking lunatic
shit they do. But she wanted to talk about how
this was a big deal, that this was horrible right now,
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But she doesn't have that same level of fucking smoke.
When twenty kids get killed in a school, right then
if you bring it up and you want to talk
about the details of like gun gun violence, or we're
talking about you know, you know, restrictive gun laws and
things like that, then that's being too political because one
of their guys that they use to push out propaganda
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to fucking gullible college students, he got killed. But twenty
innocent five year olds or what have you, they get killed,
and somehow we can't talk about that. So my empathy
for these people has largely died. I can be empathetic
to their children, stuff like that because they don't deserve
to have to grow up without a father and stuff
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like that. But make no mistake, this is his fault.
This is his fault. You spend all of your time
and effort on planet Earth. What is much of an
audience that you have by not doing good things? And
I'm not coming from a Christian perspective or whatever. I
don't give a shit about any of that. But your
job on the planet, I teach my six year old
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is is to leave the planet better than when you
got here. That's the most basic shit. You don't throw
trash on the ground, and you try to help people
when you can. You don't try to divide the country
and bring in fascis to subjugate people. So you got shot.
That sucks that it happened in public and people had
to fucking see that. I wish you could have gone
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away in a different way that wasn't like this, that
you didn't feel the need to stoke your entire fucking
career on being a hateful, bigoted piece of shit. But
you get what you fucking deserve because you do terrible shit.
You do you do terrible shit, and that's what happens
to you.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He was. I was in high school in nineteen ninety
nine when Columbine happened. I was in I was a
senior in high school. Charlie Kirk was like five or
six years old when that should happened, right, So he's
his whole life, he's seen tragedy after tragedy as far
as like school shootings and things like that, and that's
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still that's not a thing for us growing up. Never, right,
we didn't see that. I didn't see that until I
was almost twenty, like you know, y'all, y'all, y'ao will
literally just out of high school when that happened, right, yeah, right,
in ninety eight. Yeah right, I didn't see that shit
until my fucking senior year in high school. He was
five or six when that happened. Yet he's still managed
to fucking No, he was probably younger than that. He
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was born like ninety.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Four, maybe he was born in ninety three.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Ninety three, so yeah, he would have been six years old.
And you see this your whole life. You see these
these traged shootings, you see the Columbine, you see he
was in he was like probably nineteen when a new
town happened, right, So he was still a teenager when
that one happened. You see all of this, but you
still live your life like guns are fine, we need more.
(16:37):
That's weird, you know. I don't see how anyone under
the age of like thirty still believe, has been, still
believes that guns are the greatest things, and like the
Second Amendment is great and all this other shit when
you see nothing but like tragedy. Nothing good comes from
the fucking barrel of a gun. At the end of
the barrel of a gun, nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I mean I don't
like this dude.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I think he was a piece of shit, But like,
like you said, you didn't deserve to be shot. No,
but you know, I'm not gonna be sad about it.
I don't really give a fuck because, like you, you
brought this on yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well not only not only did you bring it on yourself,
you're also advocating for policies that get other people killed.
You're advocating for more guns that gets young kids killed
in school. It's not like, hey, I'm just a conservative
and people are like, yeah, just kill that guy. That's
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not what's happening. There are standard fucking run of the
mill conservatives who have their views, people can't fucking stand them,
but they're not out there advocating for like, hey, I
don't really give a shit that other people got hit
in the head with a fucking hammer or they're not
doing that necessarily. And some of them are, some of
them are not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But I'm not saying, Hey, if I see a black pilot,
I fear for my life. I don't want to get
on that plane because DEEI this is these are the
he's like just outside of the gun shit, Like he
just said just horrible things about all other other groups
of people besides white men. Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I my topic of choice I was gonna bring up
before this actually happened. I was driving the other day
and I was just I was just thinking because I
saw this guy's videos. Black dude had a video. It
was about this one conservative black dude, I don't know
his name. He's a fucking ass clown too, And he
was like, why is it that black conservatism? Because he
(18:36):
was like, this guy doesn't like he's not just a
black conservative, but he doesn't like black culture, anything with
black people. He don't fuck with right, And he was like, look,
I grew up, and I had a mentor when I
was like in high school who was a black conservative.
He was like, but the guy like ran a program
to like help inner city kids out, Like he didn't
hate black people, like he was just conservative. Like, Okay,
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you like fiscally you believe whatever you believe, right, And
I just start to think, right, well, I also, and
I'll make this point in a second, fiscal conservatism and
like socially liberal doesn't make any fucking sense. And if
you say that, you're an idiot, and I'll prove it
to it. And I fucking hate that logic. Oh I'm
one of these things. And then the complete opposite in
every way to the shutting. You've thought about this nine
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seconds and you just want money that that's not the
same thing. It's just being physically conservative. So yeah, that's
just rib.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Even fucking liberals don't like paying taxes, want to be broke.
If we're going to pay them, we want them to
go to something that helps the society.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Right, Yeah, we're not. We're not advocated for like no taxes.
It's fine, that's dumb.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's stupid argument.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So like, and so his point was like why being
why does being a black conservative equal you have to
hate black culture. And I started thinking about it. I'm like,
I don't understand when people talk about the culture wars.
I now realize I don't know what that even means anymore,
because like when I when I think about like the
culture wars, which is what and to make it about
(20:08):
to connect them? Back to Charlie Kirk, that's all he is, right,
He's a he's a culture war guy, right, just for
the right. They always call liberals culture warriors, but in
fact the right has just as many of them.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But what I was thinking is like culture wars used
to be in the United States. Like the best one
I can think of is like in the sixties, like
hippies being like hey, man, like free love is cool,
and conservatives like, I think that might do damage to
the family structure, and you know you should be like
x y Z.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Those are like two sides that you could debate on
without hating each other and be like, well, I agree
with this or I don't agree with this. Culture wars now,
as they're called, are just I agree that this group
should have equality, and the other side is like, yeah,
I disagree.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, right, kind of culture one side is like, we
don't like these people. The other side is like, yo,
can we just leave us the fuck alone and let
us do what the fuck we want to do? That's it,
and so that's it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So who's what are we talking?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Are the culture warriors? Who are the culture warriors in
this particular in this instance? Is it them? We don't
there's no war on our side. We're just like, Yo,
what the fuck is wrong with you? Niggas?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Y'all keep y'all keep throwing punches like nigga, we just
standing like we're just standing here.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't like this. I don't like gay people, like
we ain't did nothing to.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You, okay, all right, don't like them over there?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right? What do we do?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Like they're just gonna get married? Could you just stop
knocking on their door yelling at them like they're not
they're not at your house? Like it's so it's just
I just thought about that. I'm like, I don't understand
where we are, Like like I hear democrats like like
put you know, sort of like political democrats. And this
is one of the things that drives me crazy about
Bernie for instance, like we gotta get away from like
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the culture culture wars type of arguments. It's like, but
the wars at this point are fundamental to human rights.
So your guy, Charlie Kirk, for instance, is literally out
there arguing against equality for human beings, the treatment of
human beings that they're livelihoods, and in cases of guns,
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that they even fucking can exist, right, not not have
fucking zygote or whatever, but an actual breathing human being
cannot exist because of the policies that you put forth.
And the other side's like, hey man, you want to
go hunt and shoot deer, that's fine, but could you
not have an automatic rifleg just go walk into a
school and kill a bunch of kids. We're kind of
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not okay with that. And they're like, yeah, I disagree,
all right, dumb fuck what are you talking about? And
by the way, yeah, to my point earlier about the
fiscal conservative socially liberal buffoons who say that shit, you
can't be because socially liberal things like having equitable housing
and people being treated equally in society. You know, an
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equitable treatment across all swaths of life requires money, you
fucking dumb shits. And if you are a fiscally conservative
person who doesn't. I don't want to spend money on that.
I don't want to spend money on that. Then you're
not a socially liberal person. You just like to say
that because you know that the socially liberal things are
normal thinking ideas, that's all. And so you're just greedy
(23:22):
and you just want money and like that.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Just greedy. You just don't want to pay taxes.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Right, None of us want to pay taxes, right, you
know I should look at all this money I made.
Oh it's gone.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
As a liberal, I love this, no said, no liberal ever?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Shut up? Shut up.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We would all love to pay lower taxes. But I
also like to have the roads not have giant holes
in them, right, Like I would rather my tax does
not go to blowing up brown people around the world.
How about building a man?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Rather, I'd rather have my taxes going through feeding children
than blowing up fun.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
This year, you want to pay this, nigga? Want to
pay for kids lunches at public schools?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I have no issue with that. What
is wrong with like when you put it in those terms,
they sound insane.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It sounds insane, like are you get a part time job?
I'm fused while I'm at school.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Was like, I started. I worked on a far when
I was fourteen years old, and I'm like, nigga, you
are like forty five years old. No you didn't. Stop
fucking lying though, No you didn't. I had a job
working this when I was fourteen. I'm like, yo, you
probably like ten years old. Stop lying. He was a
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fucking Republican on some state, some fucking channel. I'm like, yo,
you're just making up shit. You're not that old. You're
just not I don't in the vaccines against feeding people
feeding children. It's like, what is that coon and fucking
Florida man? Oh the surgeon general in general? Yo, I
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ain't never heard no ship like that. I'm sorry, we're
going on tangents.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
He's a surgeon general and said, who am I to
tell you what you should put in your You're the doctor, bro,
the that is doctor.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You were probably vaccinated as a kid, because you're not
that old either.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
One hundred percent he was one hundred percent. God damn man,
vaccinating these children is like slavery.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
All of those people in the crowd that you want
to When he said that ship you motherfuckers were vaccinated
as children? Every last one of you. Why you're not
dead now? And now you're clapping because like, look, this
is the type of ship Charlie Kirk would be like
advocating for, Yes, dumb ship.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Charlie Kirk literally went to South Korea ship. Yeah, Kirk
Kirk literally went to South Korea. The other a couple
of weeks ago or a few days ago, what have you?
And he did he was like, oh, he was walking
around and now he's like, look how safe it is?
Violence is a choice? God's like, how safe this place is?
Is safe because they have gun restricted laws and it's
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safe and and people are healthy and happy because they
have universal healthcare, two things that you rail against. Shut
the fuck up, like no choice?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, okay, you know violence is a choice. So is
all the fucking rhetoric that you're speaking correct, that's also
a choice?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Terrible, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I look, I do hope
they catch this person. I hope because I want to
pick that person's brain. I want to know.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Why you did it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And yeah, I would really like to know why they
did it, and I would really like them. I mean,
I would really like it to be who I think
it is. I mean, it happened in Utah, like.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I unless it was one of the basketball plays, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It ain't a jazz, one of the jazz.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So did he do it that the last person? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
No, is that. I highly doubt it's a black dude.
They would have picked his ass out of a crowd.
Jamal it was Jamal right there we saw right. So,
I mean, but here's the thing, even as he like,
like we talked about, even as he got shot, he's
trying to make a conversation, you know, move the conversation
that that is black people's violence in this, in this
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in the United States, that's really causing all of this
gun violence. Better one black person?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, not really, No, not really, we know, quite literally,
quite literally. I went to my wife and I said,
who do you know who Charlie Kirk is? She said, no,
Captain Kirk. And then I explained every day, I'll tell
you the rest of that story when we get off
the podcast. But but she but she she didn't know.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
She didn't know who he is. Those people don't. Yeah,
someone sent me a message showing me somebody actually sent
me the fucking footage. I'm like, as I've already seen it.
And she was like, I don't know who this person is,
but judging by all the people dancing on the grade,
he probably deserved it. And I was like, don't get ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, so you know, I mean this is this is
from the same party that in twenty seventeen, Steve Scalise,
who is a member of Congress, was shot by some
crazy left wing guy. We shot him and he like
shot them in the hip or something like that. See,
Scalice is still out there and being like, we need
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more guns, and I'm just like, you learned lessons worse
than my six year old daughter. There's no way I
get shot in a mass shooting. And then I'm like,
you know what, more guns. Let's let's triple down because
they're so fucking they're so red pilled about, you know,
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the only solution to this is to add more weaponry
into it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Remember how many guns?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Why isn't it fixed?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I wrote that the crime Bill, the crime build that
they signed into low in ninety three. With ninety three,
one of the one of the part of the bill
was an assault rifle band remember that, And that actually
stopped a lot of gun violence in the nineties. It
was overturned to twenty in two thousand and four, and
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here we are.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And if you, if you, if you look at the
timeline of when that was not renewed, the amount of
mass shootings has gone up exponentially. Now that's you know,
causation does not equal correlation or correlation does not equal causation.
But I would I would have if I had hazard
A guess, I would say it certainly did not hurt
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the argument. So but these people don't. They don't believe
in logic and reason.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
They don't. They don't, and I know they don't believe
in facts over feelings, although that's what they always say
to us. Do you know? The funny part about people
like him is like, we're either soy boy cooks a
bunch of pussies, but will beat the ship out of
you out of the if you don't get incredibly violent,
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which one is? Which left are the soy boys that
are will beat the ship out of you? So who's
the pussy in this? But that's you? The bitch ass
niggas are us? Because we if we beat the ship
out of you for being cuks and we're also cucks,
what does that make.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You it's sort of a.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Makes you the bitch, like you a big you the
biggest bitches, Like I don't know, like we just wanting
to be left alone. If someone says I want to
be known as they them, you lose your ship.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
They can't handle it, you lose your mind.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm like, I think it's mean personally. I'm like, I'm
telling me what your name is. Bro Right, it's not
going to lose my mind and say this is culture war.
It takes nothing right. It's like we're losing our country.
It's like from who what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Who's winning?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Who's winning? It's a it's a bizarre dichotomy that they
have in their brain. They can't they can't square that circle.
Like we're either, like you said, incredibly violent or up
on ships.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean class, that's a class. That's a classic fascism thing. Right,
the enemy is incredibly weak but also incredibly strong at
the same time.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's like okay, like like a mastermind but also a
brain addled idiot. Yeah, which one was it? Like? Which one?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Is it relating the deep state? Also, he should be
put in a home. Pick one, just pick Is he
doing it from the home? So look again, I don't care.
To be honest, I just don't care it is. I'm
not I'm not going to celebrate the guy's death.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'm really not.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
What I will say is this one less bigoted piece
of ship who sows division and everything else, not being
not being out there spewing that rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's not a bad thing.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I wish he just would just retire from that and
not have gotten killed.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Seriously, that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, I I hate to I hate to bring this up,
but you know, I'm gonna read Richard's this moment if
if you've said nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Want to kill our baby.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
The fact that this.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Dude was murdered in such a public way in front
of so many people, like the and the right is
already going to treat this dude like a martyr. Yeah,
you know, it's one of those things where it's like, hey,
Obama got elected, isn't this wonderful?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And like that was.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
The lynchpin for all the biggots and racists and assholes
to just let their biggot flag fly. And I have
a feeling that this is another.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Canon event.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That that will activate a certain class of scum and
I hope not, but just prepare for it.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And so my wife said, Hey.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
We're not going into d C anytime soon. We're not
gonna be anywhere where any politician is.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We're not gonna be. I'm gonna be working from home as.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Much as I can because I gotta drive through DC. Now,
we're gonna, We're just gonna, We're gonna be here in
Maryland for.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Look.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I think I said it on the show. I don't
plan on going to d C until that motherfucker is dead.
I'm not going into that city. Nope, Oh Trump died,
all right? Is somebody else president? Is it not jd Vance,
Then I'll go into d C. I'm never going back
into that city. I'm not going into a city basically
under military occupation. I don't care if they got these
(34:56):
niggas cleaning up trash. Shit is nonsense, no fuck off, Like.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Don't I don't know what people expected.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I really don't.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You can only do this type of rhetoric and say
terrible shit and do terrible shit and sow division and
hatred for so long, and now you live in you
live in a world, and you live in a time
where people are losing their money, they're losing their jobs,
they don't have their health care, and people don't have
shit to lose. And when people don't have shit to lose,
much like a wild animal cornered, they can get very
(35:31):
vicious and very violent.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And your policies made it incredibly easy for them to
get guns. There's four hundred million guns in this country.
There's three hundred and forty seven million people in goddamn country.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Right, and a lot of kids, so they don't even
have guns, right, So that number is not a one
to one. By the way, Utah had passed the law
making it making it aokay.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Thumbs up, guys, Cool, cool, you're gonna change that. You're
gonna switch it around. Now, they're gonna double down.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You gotta have two guns.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You're gonna do ship from with us if there's a sniper.
Because apparently that's what happened. Yeah, they say like two
hundred yards away, feet yard or whatever, and maybe.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
It's like five hundred feet something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm not I'm not a gun guy, but seems far.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It's very far, and that's still what happened. What it
did to him just proves that the human body is
incredibly fragile, and guns are made to do nothing but kill.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's right, that's two football that's two football fits, not
including the end zone.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Right, So it's further than Oswald shopped Kennedy. So why
why were you able to purchase that as a just
a citizen? Why were you able to purchase such a weapon?
What do you need it for? Well?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
What if the deer is really far away? Move closer,
my nigga, like molos, get better.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's manners. I have deer right off the outside. The
niggas don't move for ship.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, you gotta get super close and loud because like
they'll look at you like they'll be eating.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Like I had to. I had to build a.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Fucking fence around my backyard to keep them deal away
because they don't move like, nigga, you're not exactly like
you're not exactly hunting the predator, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They get hit by cars, yo, cars fucking gas powered
loud right, you ain't here heard me?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
They're not bright.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
So yeah, and in all seriousness, you read what you saw.
Did you put that shit out there?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Man? You did?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And that's why we tell people don't do that it's
not good, and I hope people don't get hurt. To
Mike's point, on the other side, I don't want anybody
to get hurt on their side either, I don't, but
maybe stop pushing for you know, pushing rhetoric that is
pro fucking people's lives up, Like when is the wake
(38:23):
up call? When is the wake up nigga? When the
when the president got shot at? And they're just like,
maybe more guns, Like, what's the solution. If it's more guns,
where is the number? Is it five hundred million guns?
Because it doesn't feel like it's solving anything.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Can we at least try it happen weekend weekend?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Put them in a lock box. We'll just see what happens.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
For a week.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Oh shit, nobody.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Happened back in twenty thirteen or twenty twelve, and they
didn't do shit. I'm like, yeah, there we cooked twelve
years ago. Twenty children, any.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Babies, white town, white white babies, and no, but that's important.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, you're right, that's very important.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, because if it was twenty black kids in Chicago,
they've been like, get give all the kids handguns.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I guess I'm tough, right right exactly, But no, they
still literally did that. The you tough right niggas get
shot every day to the twenty little white boys, the
white babies, like that's crazy. They don't give a fuck
about like so the whole like, you know, pro life motherfuckers.
I don't want to get ship from y'all because that
shit happened twelve years ago and we still haven't done
shit about fucking guns in this country.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I thought we were a Christian nation. We're not. But
that's what they say.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, like thet kids die and you said, well, we
need more guns. Maybe should have see through backpacks or bulletproof.
That was that was the bulletproof backpacks, fucking more metal detectors,
more cops in the school. First of all, no harm though.
Now armed.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Arm drones, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I saw that. Oh my god, Yo, that definitely top
it out of a locker flying through the fucking Yo.
What's wrong with us? Then?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Anything to avoid the most obvious answer in the world.
Maybe we should restrict guns a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I don't know, But the.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Problem is we are so far, we are so through
the looking glass at this point. Like you said, there's
four hundred million guns, you're not gonna confiscate.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Any of them.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
So they're already out there. They're just out there.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Just a lot of fucking guns. Though, that's a lot,
it's so many guns.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I think you should be able to have. I think
it was like Joe Biden who talked about this a
couple of years ago. He was like, I think people
should be able to have a handgun.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, you have a rifle for hunting if that's what
you want to do, and you get a shotgun, that's it.
It's like you go outside, you wrack the shotgun. People
leave you fucking love. Like if somebody breaks into your house,
you rack a shotgup, people are like, you know what
you heard. I gotta got to get the fuck out
of here. That's a that's a very good sound as
a detern.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
What the fuck you need an AR fifteen four? And
I'm sure there's gonna be some fucking ass clowns in
the comments like, well they are fifteen I don't give
a shit. You don't need it, you don't need it, but.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I want it.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, I forgot. I want a million dollars. Like what
the fuck it is? Like, who cares what you want?
People are being shot and killed. But those are criminals,
they're criminals. Yeah, well, here's the problem. They have easy
access to guns.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
They do.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Why are there still loopholes and shit that you can
buy guns at a gun show? Why is it that
there's no national registry of guns. If you're so cool
with everybody having guns and you're all law abiding citizens,
then why can't you register your gun with a national registry?
Why in some states you're not even allowed to put
(41:58):
it in a digital form? They write the shit down, Yes,
it doesn't because you're so afraid, I'm so you're so
afraid that it can be put into a database that
anybody across the country can find. So they're like, nah, no,
just write it down in like a fucking ledger.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
It's not eighteen seventy six. What the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Democracy by candlelight? According to fucking conservatives, it's stupid as shit.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
It's stupid as shit.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And if you say, oh, the gun laws are fine
where they are, you're a fucking moron. You're a fucking moron.
And Charlie Kirk is the biggest one of those, because
all the advocating you did for all of this shit,
you suffered, your kids and your wife now have to
suffer the fucking consequences of what you did. You're supposed
(42:50):
that's what pisses me off. Actually, as I think about it,
that's what pisses me off the most. You're supposed to
protect your children, and what you did put them at
a loss for you to grow up with you.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
You fucked up. Yeah, we'll marry a better human being
than he was.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I hope it's a black dude, and I hope he's
a livery actually, you know what. I hope he's Latin.
I hope he's I hope it's a Latin gentleman.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Good.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, and a black woman gives birth to another one
of the twitch to their child.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Just why not look man before we go? Uh?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Something actually really sad happened today that unfortunately will get overshadowed.
One student has died and three more were injured in
a shooting at Evergreen High School Wednesday afternoon, the day
that we are recording this. The local hospital confirmed the
death but would not share any other details about the
(43:55):
student who died. Three students, including the shooter, were being
treated at the high spital for gunshot wounds. A fourth
student took themselves to the hospital with injuries sustained while
escaping the high school and fleeing to a nearby elementary school.
The Jefferson County Sheriffs Office said that the alleged shooter
was a sixteen year old male who suffered a self
inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Yeah, there was a
(44:18):
shooting at a school. And where was Colorado. I don't
know what the fuck Colorado's problem is. Guess just the
air too thin, mind, don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
What is going on in Colorado, but this story is.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Tragic, and I just wanted to let people know that,
like this is happening.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
And school just started, like a week and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, school just started, and we're off to the races.
And and you know, I don't mean to speak for
the dead. I can only imagine the rhetoric that would
come out of his mouth about this.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yep, so.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And and and and it's gonna get overshadowed because this
guy who you know, every life is important, right, or
lives murder right, But like he's not, he's he's he's
just a popular guy on the internet. Like the quote
(45:32):
that old Chris Rock bit right, Martin Luther King was assassinated.
Malcolm X was assassinated. This nigga got shot.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
This nigga just got shot. To pocket me, that niggas
got shot exactly. That wasn't an assassination. No, it was.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
A murder from an internet celebrity. And while it is tragic,
I I you know, I said it before, You're gonna
be hard pressed for me to to to weep for
a hate longer. I just can't. I just can't.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, I'm not gonna use that and made up empathy
that he talked about, That's that's a bunch of bullshit.
You know I got.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I got empathy for his kids, for these other kids,
how about that?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And I got right, and I got empathy for these
for these children who got shot in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well i'll give you.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
I'll give you a sort of a modified quote from
Colonel Jessup from a few good men. His death, while tragic,
probably saved lives.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
So yeah, I just don't. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Tragic and grotesque probably save lives. So look, don't live
your life where people celebrate. Millions of people probably celebrate
your death. It's a simple fucking rule in life. If
a bunch of people are like, I hope that guy died.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You lived a.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Poor life, did you did?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
So we'll see what happens next. That's the look, everybody, all.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Right, We will be back uh next week with highs
to Lois again. You can watch that on Apple TV,
directed by Spike Lee and starring Denzel Washington and Jeffrey Wright.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So later, guys, go to see you.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah
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