They Cloned Tyrone - Episode 246

This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to discuss the 2023 film, "They Cloned Tyrone" starring John Bodega, Jamie Foxx, and Teyonah Parris. The film follows a series of eerie events that thrusts an unlikely trio onto the trail of a nefarious government conspiracy in this pulpy mystery caper.

Episode Transcript

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The last time. Kay, let'sjaw. Hello and welcome to a brand
new episode of Black on Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm
here with my co host Michael Hey, Tiara Hey, and Terence. What's

(00:32):
up? All right, guys,we're back. This is episode two forty
six, They clone Tyrone. Youcan watch this uh streaming on Netflix right
now. The film obviously stars JamieFox, John Boyega, and uh Tiana
Paris. The story is the logline. Here is a series of eerie
events through ust an unlikely trio ontothe trail of a nefarious government conspiracy in

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this pulpy mystery caper. I thinkit probably needs to be said for some
people this is a black exploitation movieand that you should be expecting to see
black people in stereotypical roles. Butthat's kind of the point. Why does
that need to be clarified? Jay? What has happened lately on social media
to inspire you just say such athing? Because people were only born ten

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years ago, apparently, and justdon't who are film critics call themselves?
Some critics didn't bother to watch anythingthat came out before two two seven was
on the air, So congratulations seven. It was ten years ago. Yeah,

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it's the first thing that came tomy mind for something fucking stranger reason.
Yeah, I guess they weren't whenthat came out either way, that
one of the co hosts wasn't evenborn with two two seven was out.
I was like, nineteen eighty seven, were you not? You know when

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I was born. We've gone overthis. It was the most random thing
that popped in my mind. Okay, so that's fine. I'm sorry nineteen
eighty five. Okay, yeah,tr you were damn you were thought maybe
I was negative six? God,all right, that's unacceptable. Well,

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you're your generation is part of theproblem. All right. So we are
all newly seeing this movie. I'mgonna go to I'm gonna go to Terence
first, what did you think ofthe Club? Tyro? I saw it
about a week and a half ago. Whendn't I see Saturday last Saturday?
I liked it. I enjoyed it, and then I thought about it for

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like five minutes, and I'm likea lot of that didn't make me sense.
I thought. After I finished,I'm like, I really liked this
movie, but then I thought aboutit like ten minutes later, I'm like,
there's some sense that need to beyou know that that's something about that
ultimate plan. It don't really makesense to me, it don't. It
don't add up at all. Butbesides that, you know, I enjoyed

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it. I like, I likethe actors, like John Boyega is.
I don't think he's missed yet asfar as anything he's been in, except
for maybe Star Wars. I don'tknow. I haven't. I only saw
the first one. After that,I was like, I don't give a
fuck. Gianna Paris, Tianna Paris, Jamie Fox. It took a little

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bit of time for me to likewarm up to his character because it was
almost like too much. Yeah,it was over the top, agree with
that. Yeah, But then Ijust it just kind of fell into a
groove after a while. Plot wasinteresting again, Like when I finished it,
I'm like, that was pretty cool, but then stuff fell apart at

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the end. Overall, I enjoyedit, though. I had fun with
it, like because a conspiratorial likewe always say, and this is basically
a movie about right, right,what are your thoughts? So I just
watched it, so I am socurious to know, like why the movie

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fell apart for you Tis, becausethere were some parts at the end where
I was like, is Tiana Paristhe person here? Keep will keep referring
to the One thing that kind ofmaybe go was like the makeup for f
toward it. I was like,hmm, that's I mean, obviously John

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Boyega, but it was just likesome of the makeup was like a little
I don't want to say bad,but not the best. There was a
part with with a fried chicken.I was just like, so this place
is basically hip hop, Like ifwe're talking about all like the white powder
and stuff, that's basically I didn'teven put that together, but you know,

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you might be. I was likeall them dead hip hops and uh
in Bottomore, I'm like this hipotshas some like baby put crack on the
chicken. I thought the plot wasyou know, it was it was interesting.
I I was like, so it'sso funny because I definitely think there's

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probably some folks who watch this andwho were like, I bet you do
you do that for real? Yo? So this is a document, but
I mean basically I was like,I was like, so white folks would
rather clone people and unless a blackman who has a legitimate grief, vest

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or trauma rather than deal with theoriginal sin of slavery. So I was
just like okay, And then Iwas like like, I was like,
I was like, boy, whitenesswould go to length to just just avoid
treating black people humanely in dealing thefact that they enslaved black folks. And

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then with one of the characters,I was like, I was like,
oh, so this is how blackconservatives are born, uh, and why
they would say something that assimilation isbetter than annihilation shout out to ice Cube
in our previous episode last week.Oh and then there was the title like
when because when the movie started,was like, oh, this guy's name

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is not Tyrone. I was like, so where did they get Tyrone from?
And then at the end, Iwas like, oh, so that's
Tyrone. But I was like,but why so yeah, I'm appreciate well
and well, and then they hada really good ending song, like I
feel like the ending song came beforethe title. They were like, I

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know, but like, I'm meanI get that, but like but why
but what? Right? I justI don't know. Maybe I'm not explained
myself correctly because I think I thinkyou might be overthinking the title. Okay,
that title is usually the last thingthat one of the last things that
get you know, And Tyrone islike stereotypical black right. Like when I

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was yeah, you know, whenI would be stopped by of cops and
they would ask me what my namewas, I always say Tyrone Jenkins.
Like that's a true story. Bythe way, I'm serious, that was
my name. Well, we allknow, we all know. Whenever whenever,
whenever Jay's talking about thinking a blackman, he uses the names that

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we use the same name. That'scrazy. But yeah, I mean I
liked it. It's cool. Iloved Tiana Paris. She was my favorite
part of the films. But JohnJohn was really great too, So all
right, might get your thoughts.Uh, yeah, you know, for
the most part, I liked it. I thought performances were were pretty great

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from Tiana Paris and John Boyega.Jamie Fox kind of laying it on a
little too. He's kind of inliving color bag a little bit, you
know, laying it on him alittle too thick for me. But it
was fine, right, And Imean, look, I liked the movie.

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I just didn't like it as muchas everyone else. I think.
I think I kind of got sweptup in the hype. You know,
people are like, oh, thisis amazing, this is amazing. Like,
yo, I've seen this plot twicebefore in Through the Hard Way,
where they where it's a government conspiracyto reag to commit genocide on black people
by poisoning the drinking water. AndI saw it in Black Dynamite, whether

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it's a government in conspiracy to regulateblack people by putting food in the chicken
like and that was a black right, there's a Black Dynamite reference in this
movie. Oh, I'll have to, I have to. You have to

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let me know when we get toit. But that's a bad idea in
my opinion, because you know,like it's the you're taking the same plot,
yo. But that's fine, youknow, like there's only a certain
number of stories that can be told. It's just really weird that, like
I vividly remember seeing all of thesemovies recently because of this show, right

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that you know, this is athis is a recurring theme for us.
But my biggest issue is with theend. I don't I don't think that
that that character would resort to whathe is doing, uh, the old

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man. I don't think he that'snot That's not the thought process that I
would have if something, if thathappened to my little brother, that is
not the thought process that I wouldhave. Well, I guess we better
assimilate. I guess we better actlike these people that murdered my younger brother.
What the fuck? No, thatdoesn't make sense to me like that,

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that's what kills the movie for me. That kills the movie. But
that's a big black eye on thismovie for me, because I need somebody
to make that make sense to me. How they would get to how old
old Fontaine would get to that mindsetgiven his backstory? I agree? Did

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they explain what? I know?They explained how how the brother? They
explained like why that happened in thefirst place. I don't remember that part.
If they like he gets pulled overby the cops or something, it's
just like because yeah, and becauseracism, because a white cop is is
in his like white cop mode andfucking kills kills his little brother, and

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so his thought is all black peoplegotta be white? What the fuck?
No? Literally no, if I'mif I'm cloning a bunch of niggas,
we're gonna clone to take over,Like that's my mentality. Like if that
if motivation, that would have actuallybeen a clever plot twist of like like

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I don't I don't really fun withthese white people like that, I'm just
trying to make more of us,like okay, Like and I kind of
like I kind of get it.Oh yeah that and I get get his
motivation. His motivation should have beendifferent his ironically, his motivation should have
been Homeboy from the Blacks, thesame motivation as his where he's lashing out

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at these black people because he wascalled white, Well because he wasn't black
enough for them, right, OhI'm not black enough for you. Well,
I'm gonna make all of us white. You call me white, I'm
gonna make all of us white?How about that? Yeah? Like it
just doesn't I mean, I knowyou're not supposed to rewrite movies, but

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that you know that that that onemode, that one thing at the end
just kind of yeah, well butokay, in fairness to the fairness to
the movie, if they had donethat, then you could easily have the
same complaint, which is you've seenthat done before, right, Like,
in fairness, I've seen this plotdone before three different times. I know

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but I'm just saying, like wejust we just did the Blackening, and
then it would be the same,you know, would be the kind of
the same plot. Yeah, yeah, the same motivation. That doesn't necessarily
mean that I disagree with you,because actually do agree with you. Look,
I overall I thought the movie waspretty fun. I agree that Sienna
Paris and John John Boyega very specifically, we're both really very good in this.

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Jamie Fox is definitely laying on thick. But I had the same response
to Terrence had, which was inthe beginning, I was like, this
is like a little over the topfor me, and then it kind of
settled down for me, and thenI was like, all right, like
it was working for me. Butyeah, overall, I thought it was
pretty good. It was kind offun to see the person who played Nixon
in the movie, Like I justI just found that funny that it was

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him. I was like, yeah, I didn't random came out of nowhere,
like all right, where have youbeen? So I like, I
enjoyed that, and I enjoyed themovie overall. I agree the motivation for
the villain doesn't really make any sense. I would have probably gone with something
like, hey, you know mybrother was like, if you're gonna do

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like my my brother was killed,so let's do this assimilation thing, then
make it like a black cop killedhim, right, like I don't know,
and then like a white cop triedto save him or say, you
know, you have like a twistedsort of view of the world. The
fact that then it would have madesense in a twisted way, but like
it didn't really make sense to justbe like my brother was killed by a

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white cop, so we all wantto be white now, Like that doesn't
I don't understand that that doesn't makeany sense. But yeah, overall,
I did enjoy it. I don'tthink necessarily it's the sleeper head of the
year for me, but I thinkit's very good and I think Netflix has
a lot of garbage and it's niceto see something that was legitimately well done.

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Yeah, I had I watched itbefore all the all the hype,
like I saw. I watched itlike Saturday morning, right, and then
like Sunday, everybody was like thisis the greatest, Like I need to
calm down. It's fun, butlike stop, I don't like folks,
I mean, I get it.I don't think people say or if they

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do, they look look right exactlyand it's either one stream of the other
right, Like it's either there's athis guy was this movie was co written
by a white man, so itshouldn't exist, right, or or yoda's

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the Grids movie ever because it speaksto us directly. Yeah, yes,
so so wild dichotomy, like it'sreally strange and yeah, you know is
always yeah, but I mean itwas fine the movie. The movie was
fine. Can't it just be fine? No, honestly, it's a little

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more than fine. Like I like, I actually enjoyed it a lot.
I really enjoyed this movie. Like, despite my despite my givings with the
ending, I thought the movie wasa good time. But you know,
yeah, but I'm like, can't, but can it? Can it just
be just that? And then youknow, Scott, Nope, it's got

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it's gotta get nominated for an Oscar. It's gotta get nominated for an Oscar.
And if it doesn't get nominated foran Oscar. I saw someone say
this is an eight top five greatestmovie. I didn't. I didn't see
some people calling it. I sawsome people call it an instant classic.

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I don't know it's like wow,I mean, look, it's fun again,
Like there's nothing wrong with it besideslike the ending in the plan that
they came up with that has someplot holes. But like the top five,
how old are you? Seven days? Seven days old? You just

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not watch a lot of movies becauseI mean, we we're I guess I
can understand we're in a bubble becausewe we this is what we did.
We watch, we fucking watch movies, and we've seen a lot of movies.
But that's a that's a crazy statementto me. Top five. This
is not This isn't I mean,no offensive movie. Again, I enjoyed
it thoroughly, but this is notin my top five. This isn't even

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in my top five black movies.It's not even in my top five black
sploitation movies. It's not even inmy top five Jamie Fox movies. Like
it's not like I'm sorry, it'snot so yeah, it's it's a little
weird, but yeah, overall,I I dug it. I think people
should watch it. I mean,we're you know, we're probably being a

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little bit too harsh on certain pointshere, but but overall, yeah,
I think it's I think it's avery good time. I think everybody like
there's you know, a lot ofmovies, you know, like when things
are like kind of vibing well withlike the cast and everything else, you
can kind of tell, and thismovie, you can tell that all three
of the main characters they were actuallyhaving fun, like you get I guarantee

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you there's a blooper reel or somethingwhere they're just having a good time making
this movie, and it really kindof shows up on screen when like those
three principal characters have like very goodchemistry and stuff like that, and it
comes off as at least it feelsvery obvious to me that they're all getting
along and like really having a goodtime with their parts. So that can

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carry a movie from not that thisis a mediocre movie, but that can
carry a mediocre movie into a quitequite a well done movie if people are
actually seemingly excited to be there,and they definitely are, and it's a
good movie to begin with, Sothat's that's a good thing. I mean
it, ironically, I feel likethis movie because people knew what was coming

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out, was this the reason thatpeople just jumped to Jamie Foxx was cloned?
Right? Because they heard the wordcloned in a movie that he was
gonna be in, Like like,I feel like that's eighty five percent of
that right, m. He's tryingto tell us something drough to movie titles
like, nah, it's he's justsick. Are you serious, that's a

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real thing. You didn't get anything. He was cloned. Yeah. He
came out when he made that statementafter he was like feeling better. He
was like, I'm not cloned,and they were like, that's what a
clone would say. It's fucking great. You The internet really shows you how
people are really fucking stupid, howdumb people really are. Like it does

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it do? I mean, youknow, if you're a good faith actor,
you know, or you know,like yeah, if you're said that
whoever that was, you're a fuckingidiot. If you're watching this episode like
you're an idiot, Jesus Christ,you look so mad. Yeah, that's
so stupid. I'm just maybe becauseI'm just not on on social media as

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much more. It's just when Ihear these things, I'm like this,
people are really people should probably gooutside. I don't know, but then
you may you may run into aclone. Who knows. You may see
a bunch of clothes just running outsideor whatever. Folks, man, Like,
that's that's how it works. Meanwhile, they would don't work on your

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iPhone, but they clone in people. Yeah, that's what you believe,
all right, Like they got thetechnology to clone people. Why would they
clone Jamie Fox? And I lovewhat He's a national treasure. But like
for what I clone somebody who cando some science? You know, the
planet is not? Like nah,just do the dude who can be funny?

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Okay? Nah. If they couldclone people, first of all they
could clone people, they'd be cloningwhite people, Okay, because wife like
a boy. They would be cloned. They would clone one black person to
see if it works, and thenthey would get rid of the evidence,
and then they would clone a bunchof white people. And I also like
they were cloning a bunch of whitegenerals to help them figure out how to

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take their country back or whatever whatever. Fucking bullshit. Yeah, because the
idea was to maintain peace in America. And then was like the invisible strings
above me, which I'm assuming arewhite people. Why would they clone more

(21:29):
ands? I look, I getthat right, drug dealers and pimps because
they want to keep the black populationand ship. That makes sense, But
the whole I'm gonna clone enough ofus and then turn us white through generational
breeding doesn't. But like that kindof happened now, I've seen a lot

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of melatos out there in the streets. You can't use that ter Oh my
god, you can't use mulatto.You have to say arent, you have
to say mix, like, ohyeah, whatever, I don't. I
don't care for this. He's thisterm. Jesus, I know what they're

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like. Tr joked before the showthat we need an HR department, and
I firmly disagree with that. Ify'all want more episodes, we do not
need an H department. I didnot get that memo. I did not
know mulatto. I didn't know mixed. I thought mixed. I didn't know.

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I thought it's a mulatto, likethe technical term it quite it quite
literally is not the technical term.I hate. I just I just looked
at it's in dictionary mulatto a personof mixed white and black ancestry, especially
a person with one white and oneblack parrot. Well, it is not

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it is not acceptable. If theword is in the dictionary, I can
say it. According to Webster.But that's not how that works at all.
So what am I supposed to say? Just bi racial mixed? Bi

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racial? Was about to take somethingelse offensive? No, no, George
Jefferson, you can't say zebra.That's not I wasn't going to say that.
And I can say kid is Iget a pass? I got half?
You get kids. I also don'tthink that that works hardly. No,

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no, I would. I don'tthink I would ever referred to fer
as either one of those things,although they did in the Black they were
like, oh shit, isn't thatit was a picture of a zebra stuck
up ship with a fin It's funny. You have to you have to have
a sense of humor about these things. You know. It's like they were
old. We're not We're not thatprogressive. I'm not that progressive. Sorry

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two, okay, whatever he's like, actually that's actually worse than you thought.
Yeah, sorry, Like there's certainthings, you know, you get
stuck in your ways. I'm moreprogressive on camera than off, I'll tell
you that much. Right, that'sone hundred. I'm not gonna lie.

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Come on, we grew up,we grew up as we grew up as
teenagers in the nineties, for God'ssake, Like, that's all you need
to know. I graduated in nineteenninety nine. Go back and watch.
I watch some old episodes of deafcomedy Jam when Martin was hosting, and

(25:00):
just again, I watch through ofsign fell watch old episodes and the show
was incredibly offensive. But in nineteeniannine, I was eight years old that
stuffy parents can and ship. They'relike, no, I don't go outside.

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I'm like, no, no,our parents will like, get on
a bike. We'll see you thisemail, I'll see you at seven thirty
street lights, street lights whatever.All right, So let's get into this
movie they cloned. Tyrof So Fontaneplayed by John Boyega, is a drug
dealer in a retro futuristic neighborhood.That is a weird thing to write.

(25:45):
I didn't get you couldn't really tellwhat well, you couldn't tell a year
it took place in. That's true, ye, until until like the end
when like you saw your first cellphone on the news, which is weird.
But yeah, yeah, I meanonly just because of the way this
guy is dressed in this beginning,Like I assume that it's not the seventies.

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Oh yeah, but like there's carsand things like that that are very
much like big catalacts and shit likethat. But niggas drive that kind of
ship. Now, So wow,that woman is very attractive. I did
not notice her first. Yeah,so walking into this, that is correct.
So Fontane played by John Boyega isdrug dealer in a retrofuturistic neighborhood called

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the Glenn with odds against him anda schedule he keeps daily. So we're
kind of introduced to him. He'she's like lifting weights or whatever, and
this is it his brother. Iguess it goes to scene kid slow kid.
Oh yeah, yeah, just likeyeah, that's right, like in

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his neighborhood or whatever. And sothey go around and they're they're having this
like funny little conversation about whether ornot Fontaine watches uh SpongeBob SquarePants. Uh
apparently he does in fact, butI just I just found that to be
weird. But because Fontaine's a drugdeally, he's like trying to get his

(27:12):
money and all this other shit.And this one dude is trying to talk
shit and Fontaine hits him with hiscar and breaks the guy's leg it's a
hell of a way to start toshow that he's he's like, he's not
fucking around, Like if he wantshis money, he's gonna get his money,
right. But a kid is basicallya snitch, So he's the kid

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kind of like gives him information becausehe's running around bike and he told him
that this guy is where he wasright and he needed to get his money,
so you know, yeah, andhe guy has a flip phone,
so like it could have been liketwo thousand and four. Yeah, I
have no idea what he is.Yeah, back, it could be now
they got flip phones now all glass. No, that was he had a

(27:59):
razor. Yeah, that was apraiser. Well you used to just like
hit niggas with the clack when youhung up on him, Like I missed
that. Hanging up on people's awesome. So yeah, we get we get
to see this like this other drugdealer whatever. He calls his boss.
He's like, look, Fontaine justhit me with his car, broke my

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leg, and so he's like,all right, we're gonna look get this
nigga like laid on. Then wesee Fontaine go back to his own house
and he's talking to his mom throughthrough the door, asking if she wants
some food, and she's like,no, I'm all right, Like but
she never she never opens the door. Right then we see commercials on TV

(28:41):
for hot Box Chicken where black peopleare literally dancing and singing and a Chicken
commercial, which is wildly unacceptable assoon as Chicken commercials them like, yeah,
okay, you know this is it'scalled hot box Chicken. You know

(29:02):
it's called goddamn chicken. Is adiscounted prices. That's what the fucking and
that's fucked up. It's also geniusYear, that's that's that's a pretty good
jingle. I'm not gonna I'm notgonna lie. Oh but the the black
Dynamite reference, he gets anaconda alook when he goes to the store,

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that's okay, And it's kind ofand it's like a big sign on the
side of the air like a storetoo. Okay. So yeah, it's
so again you're you're you know,they're kind of just establishing that here he
is a drug dealer. You're gonnameet Jamie Fox's character later on that's a

(29:47):
pimp, and you meet Tyana parisIs character who is a is a hooker.
Right again, we'll explain what blackexploitation is to uh to focus in
a minute. Is hooker offensive?Now, I don't think hooker is no
sex sex worker, sex worker?No, Yo, she's hooking, you

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know, like that's what hooking.That's the same the term is sex worker.
No, because no people putting theirfeet on. No, look,
not the same as she is work. Yeah, no, that that is
that is that is the name ofher occupation, like like overall, like

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she works in the sex industry.I get that, But she's she's hooking,
like specifically she's hooking. Also bringback hooking. But that's the great
term. But that's the rocket.Yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes, yes it's not appropriate.No, we need hr. This is

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R Jesus Christ. Is no lady, Lady of the night. Yeah,
no, flap a little bit worker, sex worker Okay, yeah, you
know I was gonna I was gonnasay it. Really what I'm not going
to that's just that's just me.What about ho I mean, Jamie,

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he does she is a whore.Hoores, hoores get paid, hoes do
it for the love it Again,she is not true, that's true all
our sex workers. Yeah, alright, apparently tex all right. Look,
no offense to anybody flipping burgers,but they're not a chef, you know

(31:38):
what I mean? Like you knowwhat I'm saying, Like like it's it's
degrees, show, it's degrees.That's funny, that's funny, it's true.
We know what a podcast wet DJs. That's true, that's true,
that's funny. Our degrees. He'snot wrong. I don't think there's anything

(32:04):
wrong with discussing the degrees to whichyou're hooking and or some feet picks on
only fans. I think that's okay. It's all sex work. There's nothing
wrong with sex work. By theway, there's nothing wrong with that.
People. A blow job is stilla job. Oh Jesus, it is.
People on YouTube don't have a senseof human you can white. I

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am sending an employee survey to thefour of us to go ahead, and
I'm filling it up. I'm establishingan announced hr for us. You run
it, You run it, allright? Yes, I would run the
HRR HR department. Well, youknow what negligence you know what it would

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be the black woman that would haveto h of course, look whatever,
however, which is like to alsopoint out the black woman. This will
be the black main character, SianaParis's character not impacted by by the white
man's hypnosis. I noticed that,and I thought they were going to make

(33:20):
some commentary on that, and Ithink that was kind of a missed opportunity.
Yeah, they didn't, but youknow, they slightly did, but
they really didn't. I mean,they made they made a commentary on why
they didn't choose her, but likethey didn't like stick the landing at the
end. So back to the film. So we we meet Jamie Fox's character

(33:49):
as he's as he's sort of dressingdown one of his uh okay, one
of his h vaginal employees. Andyeah, yeah, that's oh, that's

(34:15):
like saying yeast infection, Like that'snot so anyway. So she's one,
she's one of his she's one ofhis hookers. And so I guess he's
sort of a pimp, not aparticularly effective one, but he he's like

(34:37):
he's laying it on pretty pretty thickas far as this Like this character,
right, she's going on about,you know, basically using her John's to
get to make money to like investin blockchain and all of some other stuff.
So she is a she's a hookerwith a plan, if you will,
and so she ends up leaving andBoyega's character is is trying to come

(35:00):
see what is his name, SlickSlick Charles, thank you, And that's
Jamie Fox's character and her name isYoyo by the way, and so he's
Boyeaga is over there trying to findSlick Charles so he can get his money.
He sees Yoyo on on his wayout and she's like yeah, you
know, like basically get your boyhe in there, and so he goes

(35:23):
to see Slick Charles and it's thisis where like like it was kind of
a changeover for me because when hefirst came on on the screen, I
was like, I don't know.But there's a couple of funny moments in
this scene where he's he's talking shitto John Boyega, who he's clearly scared
of, like he clearly thinks thisguy is like pretty fucking dangerous. But

(35:45):
he's like, yeah, you know, like keep you know, keep walking,
Nigga, Like he's saying all thisship behind his back, and then
when he turns around, he's like, oh yeah, no, it's cool,
like like no problem, which Ithought was pretty funny. It's it's
a good interaction for how serious Boyega'scharacter is to how silly slick Charles is.
And so he's like, look like, I'll get you your money whatever,

(36:07):
like you know, get the fuckout, like afterwards after he takes
after he takes some money off ofhim anyway, and so Fontaine leaves and
while he's sitting in his car,another car pulls up behind him, which
is not a good sign, andso he's blocked in. He realizes as
an ambush from some of the dudesfrom earlier, the guy that he broke

(36:29):
his leg and the other guy thatgot called, and so he tries to
get out and start shooting and getsshot like six times in his in the
chest and gets killed and then that'sthe end of the movie. But my
wife was like, damn, Ithought he was the main character. And
I'm just thinking to myself as I'msitting I'm like the movie or I was

(36:53):
like like, I'm just not gonnasay anything. It was one of those
dude, it's sweet ever seen itme? Still he looks at a lake.
I was like, you're gonna findout t minus three seconds. She
was like, and then we seeBoyaga's character wake up and he's fine,

(37:14):
and she's like, oh, it'sa dream sequence. I was like,
it's not. It's pretty funny.It's just like so then we actually see
the shot up version of of Fontanewalking down the street all bloody, and

(37:37):
then a black truck comes and grabshim up and takes him it. Meanwhile,
the Fontaine that just woke up,who is fine, is watching this
all happen and it's just like aall blacked out SUV. So Fontaine goes
this new Fontaine goes and sees slickCharles, and by the way, like

(38:00):
Charles knows that he was shot abunch of times, so he's very concerned.
Why the fuck he's seeing basically aghost, right, He's like,
nah, fuck that. You know, you had a bunch of like you
should have a bunch of tubes inyou, like you got shot all these
times? How to fuck you here? And you're like you're doing fine.
But then like it's weird, right, because like this performance in this scene

(38:22):
is very strange, Like he's usinglike words like have a dasherie and shit
like that. Let it just doesn'tgo. He did call him the ghosts
of Christmas pass nigga, which Iappreciate it. Christmas. Yeah, you
puts nigga at the end of someit just makes it funny. It just
yeah, it does, it does. It does. So he's he's like

(38:43):
super confused as to like, howthe fuck is he walking around? And
so then he before you continue,what's his name? Fontaine has this ritual,
well, I guess you could callit a ritual. He goes to
the liquor store. He comes home, and then he asked his mother if
she wants something to eat, likehe oh, he every day he does
the same thing. He's like,he goes to his mother's room, knocks
on the door, never opens it, but like and her brother's like,

(39:07):
no, I'm good, and thenhe goes on about his day. That's
and he also and he also stopsto talk to Frog the old man outside
of yeah, the old man.He always pours him some up liquor and
then he says some weird shit thathe doesn't understand. Right, that is
also important. Later, so SlickCharles and Fontaine they go to see Yo

(39:32):
Yo. Because Fontaine is like,Yo, what the fuck are you talking
about? And he's like, let'sgo see yo. Yo, she saw
she saw you last night, youlike, she knows what the fuck is
going on. And so he's like, yeah, it wasn't that. Didn't
you hear like gunshots and all thisother shit, And she was like,
yeah, I did. I thoughtyou were dead. I thought you might
a kill Slick Charles, And soshe's not really validating Slick Charles's theory,

(40:00):
but again, like immediately and thisis where I thought it was a little
weird. Immediately after hearing like,nah, you should have been dead,
Fontane is like, cool, Ibelieve you. I should I should have
died. I guess I guess somethingstrange is going on. Let's go check
it out. Like that's a veryweird thing to not just be like,
nah, you guys are locking crazylike you your character isn't your character is

(40:22):
way too easy to believe this conspiracytheory immediately that they believe it. Well
there, Well, while they're driving, he sees the black ISSUEV that he
saw earlier when he saw what lookedlike himself, and and I think that
is that coupled with the fact thatthese two are like something like right,

(40:46):
I think that like I see whatyou're saying, Like it's I'm I'm kind
of I'm kind of working with themovie to try and get myself there.
Yeah, but but yeah, andhe's like all right, yeah, I'm
all let's do it. I'm like, wait, what whereas I think it's
more like one sentence? And thenI saw a random ass truck and I'm

(41:07):
like, all right, now,let's do it right. Like it's you
know, still still a bit ofa leap, but that's okay. I
mean, none of this stuff issupposed to be reasonable. They go inside
this house, they see the suvat one of the greatest movies of all
time is playing in the background.Of course, blood Sport. When that

(41:28):
asshole Bolo cheated by throwing that dustin Van Dam's face, it's fucked up.
So they're they're looking around trying tofigure out what's going on. There's
like like shift information like you know, like punch out cars and show like
that. But I was trying tofigure out why is this in a regular
house? And then Yo Yo findsa coffee that's still still warm, so

(41:51):
she's like, like, that's kindof strange, considering the house looks abandoned.
They look around. They eventually findan elevant later in the house,
which is not normal, and forsome reason, these three crazy motherfuckers get
on the elevator. No, no, no, I'd be like, let's

(42:14):
I'd be like, nah, let'sgo get twelve of our friends and then
come back. It's going down there. Just slick Charles is credit. Slick
Charles is like, what no,I mean, but but I feel like,
once you kind of see that Fontainewho was very much not dead and

(42:36):
walking around, uh and alive andlived, you've seen him get shot like
six times, it is getting onan elevator really that far over stretch after
that. No, No, I'mnot trying to investigate you. I'm not.
I don't go looking for trouble.I want to. No, no,
I'm not getting an elevator. You'lllike, forget it. That's what

(42:57):
a white person would do in ahorror movie. I'm not. No,
absolutely not. So they eventually getdown to the bottom floor. That's so
funny. Like Yo Yo is dressed. What I would argue is like a
fucking X men in a nineties Cartercomic book, Like she looks ridiculous.

(43:21):
There's one white guy in this basementwith an afro with an afro listening to
Michael Jackson, don't stop to youget enough, which is just fucking hilarious.
And I guess this guy is apart of the scientific experiments that are
going on as well. Look,I thought this was kicking Michael Key at

(43:43):
first show. Yo, he looks. This guy looks so fucking silly.
He just looks silly a ship.So yeah, they're they're just like,
you know, what the fuck isgoing on down here? And you know,
and so they're they're all kind oflike looking around, and then slick

(44:06):
Charles finds a pile of what hethought was cocaine and just starts trying it.
Was like, that doesn't feel likea smart move, like there's any
powder he's putting up your nose,but he tastes it and he then he
starts like giggling and laughing and actingall fucking silly. But then I really

(44:29):
like Jamie Fox in the scene.Yeah, no, I mean it's a
good scene right like this, he'she's having fun, right. I did
like when he picked up what hethought was a cocaine, he was like,
this ain't it, but I couldski on it, like so he
just bag Yeah, exactly like thatone. Yeah, so they're just trying

(44:51):
to figure out what the fuck isgoing on, and this guy is of
course not giving them anything, andyeah, Jamie Fox is stealing all of
these drugs in a Crown Royal baglike the blackest thing he could think.
He says, where do you finda white nigga with an afro? And
then he starts like laughing and gigglingand shit. And so they're looking around,

(45:14):
and while Yo Yo and Slick Charleshave guns on this white dude,
Fontaine starts looking around a little bitfurther and then he actually finds his dead
body, we assume the previous onethat just got shot up. So he
starts freaking out, like rightfully so, and the camera lets you know that

(45:38):
by having things upside down like fora minute, he is just losing his
fucking shit, which anybody would ifyou saw a clone version of yourself.
So they they leave, they headback to Yoyo's. Slick Charles shoots dude
in the head, oh right,because he's like giggling. Shit. He

(46:00):
also Yoyo was like playing around withlike the things with like the different substances
in the bag, and she messesup and it causes Slick Charles to jump
and then shoot that yeah, andlike it's so funny because they're like,
oh sorry, like my bad,okay, Like we gotta go, like
he just shot the dude. Yeah. They can't even take it seriously because

(46:23):
they're so fucking high. They eventuallygo back to Yoyo's house, and Yoyo's
like, listen, here's what wegotta do. I know, we gotta
investigate the ship because I read abunch of Nancy Drew books and I love
that Fontane. From then on,it's like, all right, so what's
this Nancy Drew bitch gonna do next? Like like what would she do?

(46:45):
Like drews a real person, andso they're so basically she's like, look,
you gotta stay here and like letthe you know, let the heat
die down. We just killed thisdude. Let's chill, and then we'll
go back over there the next morningand down to deck is laboratory, which
I thought was funny and you know, trying to figure out what's going on.

(47:05):
They eventually do, they go backover there. Fontane goes back over
there with some some of his otherfriends. All of them have guns and
look, smartly, this is thisis how you handle it. And they
go over there and the whole houseis changed over, like everything looks different
somehow. The elevator is gone,like they can't get to the lab or

(47:30):
anything. Like, the whole thinggot changed over over overnight. And of
course, his his three buddies arelike, sure, Grandma, like,
let's lead you to the old folkshome. You know, yeah, we
got it, we got it.And so he just fucking leaves. He's
like, nah, fuck that,and he just drives off, of course,
leaving them there. He goes backto Yoyo's house, where Slick Charles

(47:57):
is as well, and they're likehe tells them, like, look,
everything is fucking different. Everything isyou know, it's just like a regular
house. Right. So so SlickChaws is like, Yo, I'm hungry.
Let's uh, let's go to hiphop chicken, hip hop fish and
chicken and and and they do.And while they're at the and they're trying

(48:22):
to figure out and uh, whilethey're eating the chicken, they're like,
oh god, damn, that's justgood at chick boy? Whoa make you
want to slap your momo or whatever? Right, And they noticed that everybody
is doing it. Everybody is justlike giggling ship a slick Chaws is like,

(48:42):
oh shit, it's the chicken.It's the chicken. They put some
some of that fucking hip hop fishand chicken seasoning on it, and it's
just it's making your loopy, it'smaking you acts silly and and because of
the secret ingredient. And it turnsout the secret ingredient is the same stuff
that the Slick Charles consumed previously.So Yo Yo decides she's gonna investigate.

(49:09):
Is she gonna going going back andseduce the restaurant manager, Bob Ross.
And he looks very he's a whiteman with an afro, you see.
And she while she's like doing herthings, she discovers that everyone in the

(49:32):
town is being surveyed, were surveyedand recorded, and they're like and then
she's she's like, all right,come on, let's get out of here,
like don't need the chicken. Don'tneed the chicken, like she's because
there's a line in front of thein front of hip hop. And she's
like, don't need chicken, don'tneed chicken. Right, So they're trying

(49:52):
to they're trying to they go backin the car. They're trying to figure
out a plan, and they're like, hey, let's go to this hair
salon real quick. And they goto the hair salon and they realize,
oh shit, they putting chick friedchicken season and in the hair care from
it. And when it's in there, when it's when it touches the scalp,

(50:15):
it basically like it. It lobotomizespeople, uh to the point where
they just get real relaxed, andyou know, it's real susceptible to suggestion.
Uh. You know, like theyshow these women complaining about you know,

(50:36):
everyday stuff and and as soon asthe stuff gets into their head they're
just like, well, maybe I'mjust tripping right. It makes them real
docile. And they see that there'sa there's a shipment of you know,
soul glow or whatever coming in afew clean crea there's a shipment of just

(51:00):
for me? Is being not justin me? I think? I think
are they playing the Cassett taatee whenthey send into the lab? Remember that,

(51:21):
right? Don't you care? Theyused to use just when I remember,
I remember the tape all of that. But this is exactly why I
felt like, this is this iswhy you use d Y products. Like
berries and juices and avocados and extravirgin olive oil and mayonnaise and all the

(51:42):
other ship to make your own naturalhair care products. So that way you
don't file off all the white man'sproducts manna for there. Who do you
use mayonnaise? Yes, I don't. I've heard I don't put pennies in

(52:07):
my hair. I don't put justI buy products because I am, I
am, I'm lately man, Idon't have time to do it anymore.
Extra virgin alive avocado, all thisstuff like that. Uh people sometimes people
use own aliva from an Olivia plant. Get you an Olivia plant? I

(52:29):
get it, I get it.I'm not putting anything, and no you're
not. I put Look I putmayonnaise in my hair. Look what happened
listening that's great? Was like justopen open your your spice cabinets and your
refrigerator just grabs I cult Well,well, Jay, if that have to

(52:52):
you, I clearly don't so becauseI can just no, I don't don't
take advice. Now take my advice. Yeah, walking around with he's all
the guards and Jesus are you here? So Jamie Fox. They convinced Jamie

(53:14):
Fox to get in the van wherehis shipment is being uh you know that's
delivering the shipment, and he getstrapped in there and it takes off,
so Yo Yo and Fontaine they goto uh, they go to the liquor
store and and they talk to thisold alcoholic god that that Fontaine talks to

(53:36):
every day, Frog, trying tosee if he can, you know,
figure out where Jamie Fox is,where Slick Charles is, and he's like,
hey, he's at a they he'sat a church right Mountain Zion Church
or whatever. And so they freeSelick Charles out of the out of the

(54:00):
van and and they they head tothe church and all of a sudden,
like there's David Allen Greer, Likewhat the fuck? Like, oh,
I forgot he's got that beard goingon that yeah, yeah, gotredglass hair

(54:20):
tools. I feel like David AllenGreer is a very highly respected comedian in
our community, but he is anunbelievably unappreciated comedian overall, like outside of
our commedian, completely underrated. Ithink people know David Allen Greer is,

(54:42):
but I don't think people realize justhow like pivotal, especially in comedy,
especially in the nineties, he was, and he's a fucking classically trained actor.
Also, oh is he? OhI didn't know that. Yeah,
dude's great, like he's always beengreat. He's a very good actor.
So yeah, like this, thisis very This performance is almost reminiscent of

(55:06):
Arsenio Hall's performance as the Preacher andComing to America right, like it's it's
just as ridiculous right next to DerrickQueen. So yeah, he's he's fucking
laying it on thick and just beingpretty ridiculous. And apparently everybody is having
great drink. That's the that's whatthey're putting the chemicals in at the church.

(55:31):
That's why everybody's up and grinding andship during this song. That's good.
That's fucking wild. Like I don'tneed to see Brandy bag in that
ass up like this. That's fuckingnuts. I mean, it's wild enough

(55:52):
that I watched the was it theJuvenile Tiny desk uh for the thing he
did for MPR the other day.It was like, this is so bizarre.
Yeah, you can see the closerthat ship. No, yeah,
just like I don't like you,you know, I mean he's like two
weeks ago. It's just weird.I'm like, okay, like it's a

(56:13):
weird artist to see to a tinydesper how many how many songs? Didn
because I don't know, two orthree juvenile songs. That's that's about it.
So but it's I highly recommend it. It was just a funny thing
to watch. But so I guessthey stay at the church until everybody leaves.

(56:37):
It's like a weird jumping time rightlike they were doing. They were
there during the what do they callthis mica uh show uh, praise and
worship, the show, the concert, it's the concert that they have before
the service every church. Well,no, they do that. They do

(56:59):
that in the beginning right to kindof get you pumped up, right.
It's a pep rally. It's apep rally. You talk about God,
yeah, and then and then youknow, you get you get your you
get the star attraction to come outbecause you know, you gotta get everybody
in a good mood before you're askingfor money, you know what I'm saying.
Like, or what they do isthey do the praise and worship and

(57:23):
the past to play around at thesame time because you're in a good mood,
like oh boom, boom boom boomboom. Shit right, you got
the Tamlin's going like that sounds likemoney, right, jingling. So it's
like, oh, get that moneyout watching tr reactively. No, No,

(57:49):
this is no. I don't goto church and I don't and I
don't. I don't like giving mymoney. You live in California. Thought
they still believe it God out there, don't they? Or not? Really?
No, I'm not California. Whatthe fuck it is hot? They
got like the celebrity churches, right, oh my god, okay, look

(58:10):
this the scientology commercials out here.They are so deceptive because and I want
I sometimes watch these YouTube ads andand I'm like, wow, this is
a really good commercial. What communityis this? I think I'll look at
it and it's like, bam,Scienceology. I'm like, oh, never
mind, You're like they make itthey feel like I need to get clear.

(58:31):
I need to go clear. Theymake it seem like so much fun.
Yeah, it is fun. Cultsare fun. You don't have to
think about it. But but becauseit is a cult, I'm no,
I'm good, too bad. Sothey find under this, under this the

(58:52):
pulpit of the of the church,they find like a little button or what
have you that they press, orthey use a key card rather than that
they found, and the entire pulpitrises up and there is a secret elevator
underneath. Done Done, And forsome reason again these three niggas get on

(59:13):
the elevator with no problem. Theyjust no. They have a funny They
have a they have a funny littlesinging thing between Jamie Fox and Tiana Paris,
the characters which was which was?Uh? It worked for me.
I thought it was pretty funny,parodying I because I can't hear it.

(59:37):
I couldn't tell you right the second, but I knew what it was.
Remember, I don't remember what itwas. I wanted to know if you
knew this song, because you're notan R person always oh it's oh,
it's uh, I'm going down byuh fuck buck buck Jesus Christ. Two

(59:58):
people. Did you know? Oh? Hell yeah, I definitely. I
definitely don't know what the original No, no, no, get you,
I mean I know who rolls,I know, like, so, yeah,

(01:00:23):
that was a funny little bit.I appreciated that they eventually get down
to the basement they like sneak intolike a bathroom, and they see a
couple of people in contagion suits becauseyou know, they don't want to get
a nigger on them. The onlythree people, the only three people in

(01:00:43):
this entire establishment that have full bodyyou know, containment outfits. Yeah,
that's kind of weird. Everyone elsedone. That just happened to be at
the right size and fit for allof them, is uh right. I
mean again, that's a very blackexploitation thing, like like it's just you
know, like a series of conveniences, right like, and that's fine.

(01:01:07):
Again, we're not not I'm notmad at. I'm not mad at.
I'm just laughing at it. Yeah, they eventually see a map like it's
in the mall, and they're like, you are here, and and they
can see that there's an entire facilityrunning underneath the glen, you know,
all to exploit the glen and dowhatever it is they're doing. It's amazing

(01:01:32):
all these white people have made ithere. And so apparently there's cereal,
there's chicken, there's hair care products, all of this solely designed to fuck
over black people and woo us intocomplacency. I have a question, a
serious note. Do you think thatthere is I hate to say conspiracy because

(01:01:58):
that sounds silly, but you know, conspiracy is just a plot between multiple
people. Really, do you thinkthere is a conspiracy to keep black people
unhealthy in this country so that sothat we have you know, like there's
more damage to us and you know, harming us in the long term.

(01:02:19):
I think it. I don't thinkit's exclusive to black people. I think
it's more of a class thing.Okay, that's you know, but you
know there are certainly I think blackpeople get fucked in ways like jerrymandering,
you know what I mean, likethat is specifically a race thing, that
is not a class thing that isspecifically But I think I think, like

(01:02:45):
the food industry is, I thinkthis is a class thing. You gotta
keep the certain you gotta keep acertain element down, no matter what they
look like. Now, in orderto do this effectively, you still have
to put the races against each other, right, But I think the powers

(01:03:08):
that be are handing out them samefucking nasty ass Hamburgers uh in in South
Baltimore as they are in West andEast Baltimore. M Yeah, I think
it's I think it might be moreeffective in our areas. I think it

(01:03:30):
might be way more effective in ourareas because one, we don't see ourselves
and shit, right, So I'llnever forget. I'll never forget this McDonald's
commercial from the nineties where was adude singing to his girl about fucking chicken
nuggets in an R and B styleand I'm just like, yo, well

(01:03:52):
whatever, like even worse, Yeah, yo, like what the fuck?
Like I was mad at that ship, but I kind of wanted some chicken.
It is it is this nigga.Remember this nigga? Remember this nigga?

(01:04:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, dancewith the drumsticks and say yeah,
come on yo. That was justa meme. Yeah that it became a
meme because it was so fucking ridiculous. Nigga, are you sitting? I
think I've never seen that. ButMary J. Blige did Crispy Yeah,

(01:04:40):
you know, come on, youlike you can't do that. You can't,
you can't. You know what's fuckedup? It was mad effective,
yo, It's mad effective because shehad a song out at that time that
was essentially the same songs with thelyrics changed. Yeah, God damn it
now, Yeah, like I hopethat check was really fat, Like you

(01:05:02):
singing this song you don't realize,like I'm singing about what is she dancing
on the table in a commercial?I hope she wasn't dancing like dancing in
air quotes, right, that littlethat old Frankenstein move she got. I
really wouldn't call dancing if you getto the Elaine dance in real life wasn't

(01:05:31):
wait let me see this, butI got like like a stage pops up
in the burger king and like shestarts singing. No, I don't like
that, like, no, youknow, I I honestly think like black
people were not allowed to sing aboutchicken. Yeah, like we can't,
you know, we can't. Idon't care how it's prepared, you know,
Like I don't care how it's prepared, Like I don't care if it's

(01:05:51):
roasted. You're like, you can't. Yeah, it ain't even it ain't
even chicken. At this point,I don't want us singing for food,
you know. I don't want ussinging for fair that's face. Why but
because yo, oh you want thisperform? What the fuck? No,
yo, it can be fucking filamingyou. I'm not singing for that shit.

(01:06:12):
I agree. That's respect Yeah,no, that's true. That is
respectability. Politics. And you knowwhat, as correct as Terence is that
it is respectability politics. I'm okaywith that, Like I'm really okay with
that. Ya, I'm not.I'm not cool with us singing for chicken.
I'm not like, I don't.I don't like it. I don't

(01:06:33):
like it. What is black liberation? M all right? Well you get
up there, you know what?No love zoom lettuce, no yo,
no tr talking shit. Yeah youhr, I'm zooming on you. We're
gonna do you just sing for chickenand not just any chicken fried chicken.

(01:06:55):
Go ahead, don't even worry aboutit. Don't worry about it. This
market fried chicken from a burger place. Yo. If you go sing,
it can't be chicken at least singfor like papas or some shit something that's
it. Can't it can't be airfried chicken. Just no, no,

(01:07:16):
too healthy, too healthy? No, absolutely not deep from chicken. I
just little oil on it. Andthat's what's on. That's on the crispy
chicken sandwich. I mean it's goodthen, but like it is good,
I want some chicken. You knowwhat I'm saying. I ain't got no

(01:07:39):
problem, I ain't got no problem. Looking. I got a problem with
her singing about hawking chicken. Itjust it feels too mentionable to me,
Like it just does like that thatto me, Like do you want to
see a commercial with Lamar Jackson throwinga drumstick at at Odell Beckham? Yo?
Do you want to see that isn'ta Royal Farms endorsement? And you'll

(01:08:06):
see all the salt fall off thefucking things hot blood pressure. I don't
I actually don't know if I wouldbe bothered by that, only because I
would not even watch football. Idon't know. I don't know if I
would be just be a spokesperson,just you know what the fucking thing is.

(01:08:28):
This is this is particular spokesperson.Look, look, this is how
I know people are well companies arewell aware of racism. So there's no
fucking excuse. In Baltimore, theRoyal Farms chicken ads are all white people,
every single like Billboard is like alittle white kid like sure, it's
just they know, just the ravensjust to touch her, like I love

(01:08:56):
this chicken. A ten ten yearsago, it was the Samoan Hlodi Nada
who wasn't going with a black personon that billboard. No no, no,
it's not like people won't. Youwill not see Lamar Jackson doing the
chicken box commercial for Warrior Arms SaltPepper Catch Up, even though Lamar Jackson

(01:09:20):
does own a so Full spot wherehe does so chicken and rock fish.
That's fine, that's fine, that'sfun, that's fine. It's his and
it's not fucking gas station chicken.But it's good. Yeah, yeah,
what his? Yeah good? It'stoo grusy from Florida, Yeah, from

(01:09:47):
hes from the same place where lewisfrom man Man Country. What I was
trying to sailor is that, likeI think, Oh, zach SBI's is
not great. That's why I saidit gross. Bowl j Angles is by

(01:10:09):
far better than Arms. Never beento Bowl Jngles so many times as I've
been to Florida and Atlanta, I'venever been to a boat j Angles.
If anyone would love to send mesome bowlberry biscuits to Los Angeles, please
stop stop digital begging. You're notgonna You're not gonna do digital panhandling for

(01:10:31):
chicken on my show. I maygo get some chicken after this because the
Pope Eyes I go to sometimes Ilike to get the five piece tenders.
But she just filled up the box. She just fills it up. And
I'm like, okay, that's cool. Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a pop Eyesquestion. That's that mind control ship.

(01:10:54):
And every pop Eye is in myarea and I live in like a pretty
like m h, every Papa isin my area is owned by is owned
by Hispanic people. Is that truefor you? Also? Is it?
Is it weirdly different? Uh?No, it's it's Hispanics who run out

(01:11:16):
here, the ones I go topop up the street. For me,
it is nothing but Hispanic folks inthe in the kitchen. Yeah, okay,
do you want me to check mylocal pop eyes? I think we
know the answer. You going.There's a bunch of black folks, and
it's been like what the fuck?Like everybody get out here, I get

(01:11:40):
out, Like what are you doingit? We can do better? We
can do better. That's funny.I'll check. I was gonna say that,
like, I don't I don't thinkthere's a conspiracy per se, but
like I just don't think they givea fuck about our health in a sense

(01:12:00):
for the things that you just tryingto develop certain areas. So what comes
to mind are when they're building likeuh, interstate highways and they put them
through black neighborhoods, or whenever theyhave like this is what, or whenever
they're like trying to dump environmental wasteand they dump them in near near black
neighborhoods and then you find out thatthere's like a prevalence of like cancer and

(01:12:24):
other kind of health behaviors. Idon't think it's intentional to quote unquote harm
black people, but I think it'slike, oh, we just don't give
a fuck about them. They're disposable, so we don't care if they live
or die or whatever. But Idon't think it's necessarily be like I don't
think they're like, oh, weknow black people would get this as a
result of this. It's more oflike we don't care because they're just the

(01:12:44):
schools. I just don't think theythink of us in that way. I
just think they think we're disposable.Yeah, So there was an interesting it
was an interesting report that came out. It's like a document from it was
like eighteen something, eighteen hundred something, and it was basically like this prominent

(01:13:05):
professor or doctor what have you,was was saying like if we want to
get rid as a white guy,of course, saying like, if we
want to deal with issues of theblack issue, the black issue in America,
the best thing to do is todeny them healthcare for two generations and
that should pretty much weed out mostblack people. Right, And that sentiment

(01:13:29):
has permeated every healthcare debate since then. Right, this this very idea that
the denial of universal healthcare to Americansin general was because they did not want
black people to have it. WhenTheodore Roosevelt suggested it, it was knocked

(01:13:50):
down for that very reason, like, but what about the black people getting
it? Adyr did what about theblack people getting it? And and a
lot of the arguments Teddy Roosevelt,or excuse me, Ted Kennedy when he
tried to push it during Nixon's time, very similar arguments right through, like
what about class, what about youknow, like that that kind of thing.

(01:14:12):
But it was all fairly aimed atkeeping the poorest people, of course,
black people out of keeping their handsout of reach of proper healthcare.
And you even see that today.And I think that is part of the
reason why Obama's success in getting Obamacarepassed while not universal healthcare A certainly a
step towards that, a significant stufftowards that. I think that's part of

(01:14:34):
the reason they are so furious aboutkeeping it now. They may say it's
about poor people or you know,getting you know, people freedoms or whatever,
but I and I don't think theyare thinking, like, just make
sure black people don't get it tokill the race necessarily. But I think
this is what how deeply seated racismis and classism is in this country that

(01:14:58):
if you just say it over andover again, by the time you get
away from it thirty forty sixty yearslater, eighty years later, it doesn't
feel like you're saying about black people, but it still affects black people disproportionately.
Right, So yeah, I meanthe movie is very silly in a
lot of ways, but I thinkit does touch on this idea of you

(01:15:20):
know, these sort of conspiracies thatare not that crazy, you know,
like it's it's a little crazy thecloning aspect, right, but it isn't
that crazy to think about people beingdenied healthcare and stuff like that solely on
the reason of like fuck those people. I don't I don't want to,

(01:15:41):
I don't want to share the planetwith them, like you brought us,
we didn't want to come. Soso I just find it. I just
find that sort of stuff. Imean, I can I can see,
like I totally understand, like likewhy black folks will be conspiratorial when it
comes to that, because like thatkind of thinking and impacts even like medical

(01:16:03):
associations and the way that people willtreat us in real time, like when
it comes to our house. SoI understand, totally understand that part.
In fact, I know people whohave, like I mean, I know
people who have been not aspects ofhealthcare because people just assume they can't afford
something or or they could withstand somethingjust because they're a black person. I'm

(01:16:29):
maybe talking about black women here,but yeah, that's actually in like medical
books. Yes, yeah, Ithink they finally put that information out,
like they say that black women orblack folks in general can can withstand more
pain because they're black. That's inmedical that's in like legit medical books.
Hyeah. Obviously, maybe like fouryears ago with some wild shit like that

(01:16:56):
when my when my wife was pregnant, that story about the first time,
that story about that one family whothe mother died because no one would tend
to her, and when the dadwas just flipping the fuck out because like,
hey, I need somebody to tendto my wife. She says something's

(01:17:18):
wrong and nobody fucking believed him.That was just running through my head both
times that she was pregnant, andit's a real thing. It's a real
thing, and it just it's it'sscary, man, like the fact that
and look, I don't think thatthose people were like fuck her because she's

(01:17:42):
black. I think they were like, all right, I'll get to you
in a minute, like they didn'tcare apathy. I would, I would,
I would respect it a little moreif she were like, no,
fuck you you're black, Like,at least I know where you're staying.
Yo, you just didn't care.You didn't care enough because she was black,
And it's like your job is tocare or a doctor or whatever.

(01:18:09):
But but it's it's that same logicalthing that that was getting at early when
it's like when it comes to thingslike dumping in in in predominantly black areas,
like they just they don't care,they're apathetic to to the consequences because
it's because they're definitely not definitely themdoing this in white neighborhoods. They just
don't care. I mean, andeven then, like to your point,
Mica is anytime, and this iswhere this is where it definitely goes into

(01:18:32):
just implicit buyers when it comes torace, not necessarily class, but like
folks like Serena and Beyonce have beentold have given their stories about how they've
been ignored doing their pregnancies, andI've had and I've had to advocate for
themselves and those like the two twoof the most famous black women in the
world, and they've experienced almost somethingsimilar. Yeah, yeah, because they

(01:18:55):
just don't care. I mean,it wasn't like Serena, she like a
major complication right like there when whenshe was giving birth right and it was
like she could have died. Andand again, if she's not getting the
respect of some of I would argue, she probably knows her body better than
most, considering how much of anathlete she is, right and and can

(01:19:16):
afford the best health the best healthcaretoo, Right. But if she is
saying that, and she is beinglargely ignored, and then you got to
kind of step in and like advocatea little bit harder for yourself because it
correct me if I'm wrong, butI like it was a whole thing where
she was saying, hey, likeI don't feel well x y Z,
and her husband, who's a whiteguy, was like he said something,

(01:19:40):
and then they started being like,oh, okay, I guess this white
man said it. I guess thisis the thing. It's like, yo,
it's one. She's pregnant too.She's the big name here, like
if I'm a doctor at at ahospital, and Serena's like, I need
something like you got it? Likewhat the fun? Like I don't need
a bad yelp review like get outof here, like but this is what

(01:20:00):
this is, she said, youknow kind of thing, and that's just
ridiculous. So this is what theactual story is. The story is that
she said after giving her she beganto lose feeling her legs and the pain
increased, but this hospital staff didn'tseem over concerned, and she wanted to
get test to see a blood classthat formed while she was off her their

(01:20:21):
regular minification, and she says thatthey were trying to talk to her but
she could but she was thinking that, oh my god, that she's dying,
and then more her Finally the testsreveal that immediate surgery is necessary to
keep blood class from reaching her lungs. That was when she was giving worth.

(01:20:41):
That's wild, dude, So wecould have ended up losing one of
the greatest athletes of all time,not even in her forties at that point
because she can't she can't be listened. We couldn't bother to listen to her,
right, she can't advocate for herselfloud enough until you know, having
someone intervened, which is ridiculous.But yeah, it's it's I'm always curious

(01:21:06):
about, Like, this is athing that I think movies do a very
good job at, and not justthis movie, but other other movies that
actually have messages, which is totake things like medical care and these sort
of ideas of ignoring black people andstuff like that and kind of synthesize them

(01:21:27):
down to stories that people can understand. It's not designed to think like this
exact things happening, bro, Like, it's not supposed to be that.
It's supposed to be. Hey,you should probably be aware that these kind
of things as a generality exists andthey hurt us and pay attention to them,
right or stay woke as white peoplehave ever ruined, right, So

(01:21:50):
I do appreciate that they're trying tokind of get these things across. So
that is that is good news forthis movie. So at this point,
you know, we we get weget a scene where the three have now
happened. They're still in the lab, and they've happened upon all of these

(01:22:12):
clones, and they start to seeclones of themselves or clones of Slick Charles
and clones of Fantine. Then uhFantine, you know, find he does
find, he does find one ofhimself, and he just starts doing what
we do best shot. Did youguys figure that Slick Charles is a clone

(01:22:33):
too, like early, like beforethis point or did you just think it
was just I know, Mike,he said that you've seen movies like this
were But like, did y'all didy'all assume that or think that Slick Charles
and Yo Yo were going to beclones as well? I assumed that they
were going to be, of courselater in the movie, but at this

(01:22:53):
point, not at this point time. Yeah, not at this point.
No, not at this point,but once uh one, So well,
I guess Keiper Sutherland kind of comesin and tells you, like, yeah,
this is we cloned two, Butno, I didn't. I didn't
picture it at this point then they, I mean, luckily for them,

(01:23:20):
they end up at a strip cluband the DJ, he's a white guy
with an afro, very unuccessful.He looks like, what's that one comedian
who used to do this show with, like Charlemagne? What's that white dude's
name? Schultz? Yeah, yeah, they should have just had him play

(01:23:48):
him. So yeah, they theypop out of the lab, and one
of the exits for the lab isinto the strip club. And so when
they're they walk out into the stripclub and the DJs sees them and starts
playing this song called Rucket by somebodynamed Ruckets, and it's like really making

(01:24:14):
everybody like super mellow, and theyall seem to be mind controlled, and
then they're basically they they're all usedlike zombies to attack the principal three characters
and they all drive off. Youmentioned I think Terrence mentioned respectability politics jokingly,
But do you think this movie iscommenting on that? Do you think

(01:24:38):
this movie, like this movie isobviously like you know, is this movie
saying you niggas shouldn't beating fried chicken? You niggas shouldn't be drinking grape drank.
Your niggas shouldn't be getting your hairstraight. You should You niggas shouldn't
be listening to this music. Doyou think the movie is talking about that?
I don't think like trying to advocatethat. I I mean you can

(01:25:02):
sure you can easily interpret that way. Yeah, I mean it was half
written by a white man. Well, yes it was. Yes, people
were legitimating, Yes, yes,I mean we're in't a lot of black

(01:25:26):
exploitation movies like co written and definitelya lot of them directed by white people.
There were a lot of them aredirected by by the man, if
you will, so yeah, Idon't know it's possible. Uh, but
we love that stuff. Here's thething and people, I can understand why
people were angry. I can understandwhy people were angry because they were putting

(01:25:50):
it in the great I mean again, it's the it's the satire of the
whole thing that we've seen a thousandtimes before. But they're putting all the
ship in like the ship that weuse like great drink, which I was
never a fan of grape juice tobegin with, first of all, and
fried chicken and the hair care productsand the church, you know, like

(01:26:13):
it's all the black but I mean, you know which which is interesting,
right, because like things like thechurch and things like fried chicken were essential
to and in a lot of waysblack people survival, like exactly post slavery,
during slavery, and then like thinkingabout like hair care products, uh,

(01:26:35):
that was used as a way tokind of to try to assimilate,
to to be more acceptable in society. So I can see why someone would
would see it's a commentary on respectabilityof politics, whether the movie is arguing
against it or saying like, here'swhat white people are shaming you for,

(01:26:58):
even though you were kind of forcingthis position to act out of this way
anyway for your own survival. SoI think that's another way to kind of
think of it too. Yeah,I mean your point about those things being
used as methods, you know,post slavery, you know, to sort
of for black people to survives isactually add per correct. It's I don't

(01:27:24):
know, I don't know that Ithink that it's making a comment about respectability
politics. I certainly can see thatperspective, right, Like I can understand
why someone would draw that. Thereason why I would say it isn't is
because of who the three main charactersare, right, they are a pimp,
a hoe and Susian hooker and adrug deal sure, and she's working

(01:27:49):
as sex what the with natural hair? With the sex natural hair? Yeah,
all of them with natural hair,by the way, all of And
incidentally, in this moment there we'reabout to talk about, another clone of
John Boyega shows up and that personhas his he's got like a conk perm
like you know, so it's likeit's kind of wild. So yeah,

(01:28:12):
it's it's interesting, right, Likethose three characters, you know, to
explain the basics of black exploitation fora second here, Like those three characters
are stereotypes of black people, Likethey are raging obvious stereotypes of black people.
And the reason that exists is totake those stereotypes and throw them in

(01:28:33):
the face of white people to youknow, because black people are exploited by
those stereotypes in film, and totake those stereotypes and throw them back in
the face of white people and makethem heroes. That's the whole point.
So if you're writing things like Iturned it off after seven minutes because he
said use a hoe, you missthe entire point of the fucking genre for

(01:28:56):
you know, fucking fifteen years.But like that, that to me is
the reason I don't think it's sortof being anti respectability politics or making a
commentary on it, because I thinkthe whole point is that black people can
be heroes in any aspect. Right, There's a reason why Pam Greer is
almost always a hooker in her movie. She's a hooker, but she's like

(01:29:20):
a badass who like you know,like kicks ass and like saves people and
stuff like quite literally, like that'swhat was it is that coffee is she's
she's like a prostitute, right,Like it's so I don't understand. I
can, I can that perspective,but I think it misses the whole point

(01:29:40):
of the genre. Well, butalso like yes, all thing of those
characters are very stereotypical and and forsome black folsome mainly black conservatives, who
will be worried about being around criticalthose types of negroes, those well,
those types of ne girls who whobreak open this this large conspiracy theory.

(01:30:05):
So yeah, maybe there's there's commentaryon that that like, well they live
there, that's a difference the waythey live in it. Yeah, so
called black concervatives wouldn't be there.They wouldn't likely. I mean, they're
not though, what black conservatives isthere? Yeah, I mean, I

(01:30:30):
mean, I guess you could makethe argument that the one true Fontane,
like the real one, the original, became a black conservative. Yes,
yeah, right, that's reason.Not for the reason, but I just

(01:30:53):
but you know, but I'm gonnapush back on this for a second because
it is a stupid fucking reason inthe movie. But look at Clarence Thomas.
Clarence stupid fucking reason. Right.He wasn't said that he wasn't black
enough or anything like that. Hewas an affirmative action higher. He got
treated like ship by white people incollege at Harvard or Yale or whatever.

(01:31:15):
He did all that and then heturned to ally with them. When when
at the when we started this episode, I'm saying this, nig's stupid too,
right, No, I'm just saying, right, we agree with then.
But but like that's at the beginningof episode. I was like,
yeah, this is Look, thisis how black conservative is born. Because

(01:31:39):
to to have all this, allthese happened to you, and your solution
is to become part of that groupthat causes trauma in your in your life
due to the color of your skin, that is black conservative thinking. That's
yeah. Look, there was agreat article not too long ago we talked

(01:32:00):
about and look forward. It wascalled complicency will not Complicency will not save
you. It was about conservative women. But it's the same thing applies casing
up to to conservatism or anti blacknessand everything else as a black person in
this case is not going to saveyou. Incidentally, in this movie,
it literally gets you fucking killed,right like it didn't say it didn't save

(01:32:26):
him, right Like black people foundout and we're like, at least half
for you to go. But it'sit's and rightfully so so like this idea
of CosIng up to what is perceivedas the enemy to black people in the
US and black people's survival, it'snot it's not a winning strategy for any
black person's It just simply isn't.Uh, you know. The textbook example

(01:32:50):
is recently, black conservatives in theRepublican Party are pissed that Florida passed that
law and that like slavery on thatbad everybody became a blacksmith bullshit, and
and and Byron Donald and a bunchof other black Republicans were like, wait

(01:33:11):
a minute, I'm from Florida.I don't like this. This is fucked
up. And it's like, yeah, because this is your party, this
is what you joined up with.These are the people you advocate and stand
next to and get out of boysin Congress from But even then, but
even but even if they still didn'tgo far enough, because and if they
did go farto, they wouldn't beback service in the first place. But
like Tim Scott even saying like maybeRon Sensus is having a bad day and

(01:33:34):
we all have bad days and maybedidn't mean what he said, Like like
bro, like that's not now,he meant what he said. So but
even but that's the point where it'sjust like they they clearly made a point
to say that slavery benefited black people. And even if they're just like,

(01:33:58):
okay, maybe maybe you misunderstood aboutwhat you said, like really, okay,
they know exactly what they're saying.They know that they can say whatever
the fuck they want, and thosefucking jackasses will go right along with it
because they just want to be adjacentto power, which is pathetic to me.
It's pathetic. But you know,I'm not a I'm not a punk
bitch ass nigga. So like Ilook like I just don't like. I

(01:34:21):
just I just don't like. Ijust can't imagine the mighty being like could
you do a little soft shoe andI'd be like yes, bass, Like
no yo fuck that, Like Noah, You'll get on. She's crazy to
me. So yeah, the principalcharacters they meet, They meet Nixon,
if that could not be anymore onthe nose. They meet a white guy

(01:34:45):
named Nixon played by fucking twenty fourhimself key for Sutherland Micael. This guy
he's your he's your little personal Jesus, this guy, right, Jack Bauer
can't be killed, right? Ido like Jack Bauer. Look, I'm
probably as I'm probably the most centerof all of us politically, But like

(01:35:09):
twenty four is my conservative wet dreamman. That is a that is a
conservative wet dream It's a fucking whiteman taking the law into his own hands,
murdering brown people, defying Chinese peopleall in a day. Doesn't even

(01:35:29):
sleep, he stays awake for America, defending it. That was a wild
series. Yeah, it was Ieven like I even like Blackbauer. I
even like Blackbauer. Uh doctor DreKip, What the fuck does I do?
His name Kith from Futurama Ki,Yeah, kid from Futurama because he

(01:35:49):
got them weird eyes. Yeah,black guy. Man. No, he's
a good act. So yeah,so he's he's he's there to basically explain
the movie to dumb dumbs. That'sthat's how why he was like, if

(01:36:12):
you've made it this far, letme explain it to you. So it's
like, uh, look, basicallythe Founding Fathers were great, but they
were also assholes, and they setup these these uh these ideals that we
can't live up to, you know, and you know, thanks for the
slaves like that that was you know, helpful to them. And so because

(01:36:33):
the country has no dialogue, nocommon ground, no peace, their idea
is to just assimilate black people andthey are going to do that by controlling
them and all the food and everythingthey consume and the products that they consume
to make them docile. And thenyou come to find out like then why

(01:36:56):
are you cloning pimps and and drugdeals. He's like, yeah, there
needs to be a certain genes sequito keep to keep people away from this
this town. It's got to havea certain flavor so they can do what
they need to do, he said, other basically, otherwise it'd be gentrified
within three weeks, which is hilariousand also true. So yeah, like

(01:37:23):
yeah, it's like you're making alot of sense. You're making a lot
of sense. So yeah, youyou just kind of come to find out,
like listen, this is what they'redoing. You know. He said
to Fontaine, you're a fucking patriot, You're Captain America. It was like,
okay, that's fucked up, consideringwhat happens. And then he controls

(01:37:46):
them and makes Fontaine like hold agun at yo yo and then put a
gun in his own mouth and alsothis stuff because he can control them and
do whatever the fuck he wants.So yeah, they all have They basically
all have like a turn of phraseor something that that he can say to
them, and then they all justbecome complicit and standing with Nixon is a

(01:38:13):
clone of a Fontaine, who againhas a confirm and looks ridiculous. So
yeah, and so he Nixon leavesafter basically embarrassing them and showing that they
have no power over him, andthen all the black people saying there who
were trying to chase him like itwas a thriller video. They're all confused
and they don't know why they're there, right, And this is why he

(01:38:34):
explains why Yo Yo isn't a clone, because he's like, you're a hooker,
you're a diamond, doesn't we don'tthere's no whire's no point even calling
you because of a black women.You don't matter. Yeah, yeah,
right right, yeah. Again,there's some very good things out this movie,

(01:39:00):
Like there's a lot there's a lotof really enjoyed about it, and
I, you know, I appreciate, you know, doing some good messaging.
We fast forward. Fontane comes homeafter you know, after that situation.
He goes to talk to his momand then he eventually he's like,

(01:39:24):
goes in the room and it's justa recording of his mom just saying shit.
And so he realizes that he's beenduped this whole time and that like
his entire life is just a fuckingline, and so he starts kind of
freaking out. He goes and goesto see Slick Charles, and you know,

(01:39:45):
they're they're all kind of like,what the fuck are we gonna do
like this is this is too bigfor us, right, Like this is
too wide reaching, and maybe theyshould just you know, kind of hang
it up like they're both owns.Nothing is real, you know, like
so who cares? Right And look, that to me speaks to not unnecessarily

(01:40:09):
a complacency with black people, becauseI don't I don't think most of us
are particularly complacent, but it doesspeak to the exhaustion of being dark,
of being you know, persecuted andtreated like garbage, and having opportunities ripped
away from me with things like thatjust over and over and over again,
and also just having to fight allthe time, right, Like I feel

(01:40:32):
like the closest you're seeing to that, like in the mainstream for white people
is in politics, is like liberalpeople being like, fuck, we gotta
fight again another election. Yeah,you have to fight forever, Like you're
gonna have to fight forever. Shit'sfucked up and you gotta keep fighting forever.
Welcome to our world, right,And that's why black people can be

(01:40:54):
down front all the time because they'relike, yeah, na, what is
the Tuesday? Like we've been doingthis, like we've been launching. Like
black people don't want to hear thatship. I don't want to hear a
bunch of complaining and ship because it'slike, all right, yo, whatever,
like doing a ship. We've beendoing the ship for a long time,
right and you know, just youall you gotta do is exercise your

(01:41:16):
civic duty, right like right youYou literally have to do the least amount
of work, yeah, to actuallymake it, to actually like really make
a difference. Yeah, we canthrow we can throw our bodies on the
fucking bonfire and it might move theneedle slightly for a moment, right like

(01:41:40):
maybe maybe it does, you know, or maybe it doesn't. Right,
So but yeah, white people,you know, voting in mass for the
right ship, Yeah, you canactually make long term change. It'd be
nice. Get off your duff.So yeah, so they're they're just sort
of contemplating like giving up. Andagain I think black people deal with that

(01:42:02):
all the time, right, likelike ironically, when people tell you not
to vote and all that other ship, that's them giving up because they get
tired. They don't want to admitit, but that's that's they they're just
like, why don't we just try? Oh just see because they tied a
fighting too, and like as angryas they make me. I get it,

(01:42:25):
I get it. It's exhausting,it was exhausting. But that's not
the right answer. Like again,complacency is not going to fucking solve anything.
It just isn't. So eventually theydecide like, nah, fuck that,
we're not We're not just gonna fuckinglay down for this shit like this
is ridiculous, and they get themselvesuh, they get themselves back in the

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lab and start trying to figure out, like what the fuck is going on?
We see we see more of thelike sort of experiments. Kidnap right,
skip that part, yo, Yo, she's she's walking to a funny

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scene. She's walking to a mailboxlooking at somebody she looked like carmer san
Diego, and she puts a letterin the mailbox, but she gets kidnapped
and the other sex worker cover Sandy. Yeah that was funny. So slick
Charles and Fontaine go go back towhere she was with, like to the

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streets and they tell everybody tells her, tells them that uh COVID went missing.
They're trying to find her and they'relike, yeah, she got picked
up by this car or whatever.Right, So they have Fontaine and slick,
Slick Charles, Uh and Isaac havethis plan to rescue yo Yo,

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faking his death to sneak into thelab undetected Fontaine Let's slick Charles Isaac into
the into into into the lab withnumerous residents of the glen. They free
the black people being experimented on,including the clones. While Yo Yo freeze
herself in fines, Leck Charles anothermessage the black woman free herself. She

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doesn't wait for these these men tosave her. And this is this is
the part where I'm like, thisplan doesn't make any sense, right,
because they go They're like, okay, we got to set this up.
We have to get you. Wehave to make it look like you die,
right right. So it goes toIsaac is like, look I need

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you to kill me. Well,looks like, look like you killed me.
And then they do it. Theypick him up, They put him
in the morgue and then they pickhis they take his clone and they clone
they they do whatever they do togive him the memories and they clone them
and he goes back into the streets. Meanwhile, other clone of Fontaine or

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Fontaine gets up out of the bodybag and they kidnap the clone and put
him in a motel and just leavethem there, right Chester. Yeah,
yeah, I think it was.Was it slim slick y'alls kidnaps them him
and puts him in the end thehotel. It's like, sorry, bro,

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we gotta keep you here. Butwhat happens to him at the end?
I mean they kind of throw itaway. They do it, They
throw it away, right, theygive away. They give a throw away
line that Jamie Foxx is like,oh man, I gotta I gotta piste
off Fontaine clone back at a holeat the hotel, right, I gotta
figure out what to do with Like, yeah, I gotta figure out what

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to do it. And there's anotherpart that doesn't make any sense either that
will get through because slip Chaws becomesa clone, his clone ends up I
guess killing Nixon. Yeah I didn't, Yeah I didn't. But like theo

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me with to switch a roof,right, like watch the name? Right,
what's the name? Saves herself becauseshe has a wig, which is
really funny. That's why the chemicalsdidn't get super fucking clever, right,
Like I actually was actually really reallyclever because they made reference to her wearing
a wig. But I didn't pieceit together, you know what I mean?

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That was that was actually really clever. So she gets you for yourself,
like you said, because the blackwoman got it for yourself. So
she comes out and this there's apart where Nixon they have like a standoff
Nixon yeah yo yo and slim chawsor slipshaws. Now, the clones have
to be programmed before they can goback out into you know, the world.

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So what was it about the clonethat they pulled out of the pod
that he had this connection to Yoyo? Doesn't make any sense. I don't
know. If I don't know,if I don't know, if that clone,
I don't know, if that clonewas like, oh shit, what
the fuck is this? Hey,who left these clothes here? Let me
put these on? Oh shit,hear somebody? Let me go right like

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they pulled Yeah, yeah, that'slike wait a minute, because he just
came out the pot. So whatall right? I guess, especially because
there's especially because they established that likeeven if you aren't programmed, like you're
not, you have to be programmed. And then when they programmed you,

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like you don't know anything. Sohere's he from the memories that whatever the
program your memories are again because butwhat they want you to know because when
they free everybody else, they're likechildren, right right. It can't even

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like how again another plot hole thatI was just doesn't make sense. You
know, they already programmed the newFontane. So yeah, he's still got
his memories and he's still sitting inthere hotel room. But like when did
they program slip slip Chells. Don'tworry about it. So we actually gave
a funk about your or knew whoshe was, very strange. I think

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it was just a plot hole thatthey were just like I stand in the
movie it got time. Yeah,no, I mean question. Probably it
was there's gonna be one nigga fromBaltimore who notices who cares like nobody.
Maybe they cut it out. Huhagain again you're giving a little too much

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corrected. I feel like there's like, like, here's how, here's how
this meeting went. You need towrap this up. It's been too bad.
This has been There's been an hourand fifty five minutes. Wrap it
up. Let's get to the let'sget to the big Let's get to the
big reveal. So yeah, afterNixon is straight murdered. We get to

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meet the og, the O G. Fontaine, who is an old man,
and he's like, yeah, I'mold and I just decided to FuG
over every black person because a whiteguy killed my brother. Was like,

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oh, that makes sense, thanks, Clarence. What the fuck is wrong
with you? And he's like,look, you know, slow motion better
than no motion, So we're justgoing to set instead of the annihilated,
which is a wild which is awildly stupid thing to say. It doesn't

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make any sense. I don't knowhow a white man killing your brother translates
into you wanting to destroy the abilityof your people to there to be just
black people and then everyone has tobe mixed race. It doesn't make any

(01:50:23):
sense. Also, our jeans aremad dominant, so I don't know that,
like y'all show y'all want to dothis, Like is that how you're
doing it? Because I feel like, I mean, that's that's why all
those white people got afros and ship. He was like, ah, just
it's the hair man like hair.It's so good. I hear, it's
so good. I can't I can'tfigure out how to just make it limp

(01:50:45):
and straight like it just it ishow it works. They keep coming out
with afros like im like African jeansare mad strong, like they're yeah,
I'm not sure. Like there's nota lot of there's not a lot of
times like mixed children between a blackand white parent comes out like, oh,

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do you have a black parent?No, that's not how nigga look
at Barack Obama. You know,he don't look like his mom at all.
Like this is a bad plan ifyou want to, like, we're
gonna get all the wife. Imean, they probably wanted them to look

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like what's her name, Halsey,the singer Halsey, she's mixed race.
I don't know who I've heard.Well, I guess if a nigga right,
like he would want them to lookcloser to black than white. I
mean he got yeah, her father'sblack. M h understand, Okay,
I would not have the same thisname, what's her name? Her father's

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African? Well, doja cat looksblack? Yeah? She looks black,
Yes, Halsey. Halsey doesn't lookslike a straight up white woman. What's
name's daughter? Quincy Jones's daughter,Like she looks white? Yeah, she

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looks just straight up white. Joneslooks. She looks, she looks southing.
She got black, she got blackfeatures, she looks spicy white.
Wait wait wait wait wait you thinkyou think you think that she looks more
black than Dojakat does? Yes,No, you're a wild I know Rashida

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now na Like if anything, Iwould have been like she's Puerto Rican like
like no, I would until someonetold me that was Quincy Jones' daughter.
I didn't know she was biracial atall. Right, she looks white,
but like I don't think. Idon't think cat looks black. I don't.
Yes, she does like Terrence hashit the age where his eyesight.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm looking atpictures of those are cat, Those are
get looks. Yeah, those areGet looks black to me. Yeah,
yes, yes, she does looklike she don't even look like a tan
white woman. Though she only evenlooked like a tan white woman. She
looked black. She looks like alight skinned black girl. Yeah she does.

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She does. Yeah, she lookslike she's had facial surgery, though
I will say that and considering thestory. Look like the one picture,
the one picture, she looked redlike I don't know what the fuck is
she wearing. I guess this wasat the met gala. Yeah, there's
one. She's she's like a catlike, she's like quite a little she's

(01:53:54):
like it's like a bunch of crystalsor something like that. Yeah, yeah,
but there wasn't. No, shelooks like, yeah, it looks
like she looks like a character fromZOOBILEI Zoo. Like she was weird.
That's that's yeah. No, Terence, your eyesight is leaving you. It's

(01:54:15):
all right, bro. I wasI was getting I was getting my I
was getting my mulatto's mixed up.I was getting them. I was getting
them confused for him. I meanthey all look alike. Yeah, yeah,
that's I guess. So at acertain point, our Fontine, I'm

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just gonna say the magic word andcontrol this other Fontaine, the one with
the cock perm and just have himold Fontaine in the head. And I
don't know that worked for me.I liked it because he was like,
nah, fuck that, Like,you're not gonn continue fucking over with black
people. This is fucked up.Uh. Then we get a like a

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news news break and there are blackpeople everywhere and they're mad because they're like,
yo, there's clones there's nag getblack people everywhere like this shit is
crazy, and just you know,the news is kind of like, well,
we don't know what to do.We're just gonna film this ship.

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Like we just confused and we don'tknow why all these black people are And
then we see another clone. Wakeup and he's like, you know,
he gets up. He got togive us this thing. He sits by
the TV and he's hanging out withhis with his buddy and he sees Fontaine

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on TV and he's like, oh, his friends are like, oh shit,
and that you like, oh shit. They clone tyrone credits. It
was West put on a fucking uhWest Coast accent. Yeah. More gass

(01:56:10):
buster right the store. Okay,I guess would be remissed. We would
be remissed to not We would beremissed to not talk about the song that
plays at the end. Uh yeah, Eric by Doo song. Uh.

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It was cute that they got herto re record that song with the different
lyrics. I enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah, look overall, a good
movie. Some some plot issues,but yeah, I dug it. I

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think it works overall. So that'sthat's good. That's good. I'm cool
to see them do some more stuff. Look, I wouldn't mind seeing some
other directors, more established directors oreven small directors actually take on some black
black exploitation. Do you think thatgenre should like largely end when it did
in the in the in the seventies, or do you think it's still a

(01:57:18):
viable thing to kind of bring back. Well, according to the Internet,
no, it's fucking exploitative. Imean, this isn't a fucking name of
the title. But yeah, I'dlike to see him if they were done
well. I love black exploitation.Yeah, they're fun, like terrible,

(01:57:40):
fucking silly, ridiculous, but likethey did them because we wanted to see
ourselves. And I feel like,I think I remember watching the it was
a documentary. I watched My BlackIs there a Black enough for you?
They were talking about like these werebasically independent films, all of them,

(01:58:00):
and they kind of kept the fuckingthey kept. They kind of kept Hollywood
a float for a while, honestly. Yeah, they made quite a lot
of money for the tiny budgets.Yeah, so yeah, I would like
to say, you don't if theydon't cost a lot of money, they're
fun, why not? Yeah,R you're against us, right, you're

(01:58:25):
Jesus Christ. I didn't know becauselike they might use the term alatto and
like, I know, you bemad. It's okay, it's okay if
if the movie does it, it'sokay. Oh wow, so we can't
see we'll see the bias the movie, if fiction, if the movie the

(01:58:45):
movie co written, the movie cowritten by a white man. Yeah,
yeah, your hypocrisy. Fine whatever, people people, black filmmakers, now,
if you're Korean, they can't sayI think ahead. I think black

(01:59:13):
filmmakers. I think black filmmakers cando whatever they want. I I I
appreciate when black films kind of branchout into something that's not you know,
stereotypical black, right, Like weneed more black horror, right, like

(01:59:34):
we need more, we need moreblack science fiction, we need we need
more, we need more black fantasy, like black you know, high fantasy
and shit like that doesn't make sense. You can't, I don't make sense.

(01:59:55):
Sure you can, Sure you can, Nigga, what the fuck?
What the fuck is an elf?But somebody with big ears? I'm a
fucking elf. Yeah, we heldone for present for eight years. You
guys were fine with it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But Yeah,
that's what I want. Yeah,exactly. Elves and dragons and hobbits and

(02:00:17):
shit. That's perfectly fine, butstop stop throwing your diversity in my face.
Forced diversity. How else do youget diversity? I'm confused? All
right, I think that is itfor us. That was episode two forty

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six. They cloned Tyrone. Wewill be back next week. What's another
preview episode later? Guys? Seeyeah, take anything. Ye yeap,
yeap, yeap,