April 25, 2025 • 52 mins
This week we are covering the crazy case involving a prominent political family in Kentucky. Steve Nunn was destined to follow in his fathers footsteps but alcohol and poor decisions led him down a path that would leave a young woman dead and him in prison for life.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless this Mess in the True Podcast.
I don't care who was Dusa haystuhy. All right, we're
back this week and we are covering an episode out
of Kentucky. No, a case out of Kentucky. It was
a it was a very strange case that I caught
watching True Crime with Aphrodity Jones. So we're gonna be
(00:41):
covering that. It's about a senator who lost his marbles.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To was congressman lost his marbles?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
No, he was a Kentucky State senator.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh yeah, what season? What episode and season was this?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I don't know, Stuart, Why would you ask me? Why
don't you do some research? All you have to just
find out what episode?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm doing research. I'm asking a question, you're asking me, Yes,
that's my research. All right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So back to the case. It is out of Kentucky.
We haven't been to Kentucky in a while.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They don't cover a lot of stuff that's out of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It seems like there's just Bardstown.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Bardstown is all you all y'all got out There is Bartstown,
the case that just keeps on giving. So yeah, we're
gonna do a case out of Kentucky and then just
quickly the business of it all. Stue rate review, subscribe
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Because we were with a bunch of other people that
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Did they contact all the other podcast us to tell
them that they were going to take their episode down?
We are all in any other podcasts still doing it?
That is a question, because this was seven years ago.
Eight years ago.
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I think, well, mine's a madness. I think it's still
doing that.
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I'm really bad at the tiktoks, so I try, but
it's I'm not the best at posting there. But all right,
so let's go ahead and get into our case out
of Kentucky. So we start in lexing Kinton, Kentuck. Good lord, Kentucky,
look up.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't know. No, I'm not Pensentucky. I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That Tony fella.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, Pensentucky you know on the Orange is the New Black?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, what that was like twenty years ago?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh my god. Anyways, in Lexington, Kentucky, on September eleventh,
two thousand and nine, around six am, twenty nine year
old Amanda Ross is walking to her car at her
apartment complex. Now, Amanda worked at the State Department of Insurance.
Didn't know that was a thing, but it's a thing. Yes,
State Department of Insurance.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The Virginia State Department of Insurance.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh okay, I mean like the state department. So it'd
be the Kentucky State Department of Insurance.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yes' not the State Department of I can't think of
That is.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So weird, like such a weird place to work.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Why would they name it like something that state?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It has one?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Anyways, Okay, it makes more sense if you put Kentucky
State Department of Insurance and you put like a little
bit of a pause between. Okay. So she had aspirations
to work in politics, and this job was kind of
her foot in the door. Suddenly there are gun shots
heard and Amanda lay on the asphalt. A detectives arrive
at the scene after witnesses called police after hearing those gunshots.
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Now she is rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead.
Now at the crime scene, they find her purse with
her BlackBerry iPhone, a handgun, and everything else was still there,
so robbery was quickly ruled out. Another interesting item in
her purse was a paper for a protective order, and
they quickly learned that she was in a domestic violence
(05:31):
situation and that is why she was carrying that handgun. Now,
as they are falling up on leads from Amanda's murder,
they receive another tip stew Yes, Now, this one is
about a man in a cemetery out in Horse Cave, Kentucky.
Horse Cave, Yeah, familiar. No, Now, this is about two
hours away from Lexington where Amanda was murdered. Now, someone
(05:56):
saw a fanny pack covered in blood, a knife, and
a man with a handgun. Well, police arrive on the
scene and they do find that man. He is drunk.
He's waving around a thirty eight. He's telling police that
he's going to try to kill himself, and all of
a sudden he shoots the gun and then falls to
the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sounds like something out of a movie. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I told you this is like some of these ID
channel like Discovery, ID Network, they have like the craziest
like Dayline don't really cover crazy shit like this, you know,
They're like, we're gonna find some crazy shit. And so
these I do like those shows because they do they
have interesting, like just weird things that you wouldn't that
(06:36):
you couldn't make up, you know. So they think he
has killed himself because he said I'm gonna kill myself
and then he shoots a gun off and fell to
the ground. So they run over there and he is
not dead.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Not dead, no, not even shot no.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So the blood all over him is actually from where
he tried to cut his wrists. They can see it
coming out of his wrist. And when he shot the gun,
he just kind of shot it into the air. He
didn't actually kill himsel like shoot at himself. He just
kind of I guess, maybe up by his head. So
they notice he is near a set of graves, and
the graves belong to the Nun family, specifically the grave
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of Louis B. Nunn, who's the former governor of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You shut up.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I know it's getting interesting already. Are you on the
edge of your seat? I am good because it's your turn.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Please quickly find out the identity there man, man, I
can't read either. What the hell is going on?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, that's because you made fun of me?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So this is what Kara? Kara? You don't believe Kara?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What do you mean? I don't believe in karma?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You don't believe in Kara's jinx? You no, I got
a cat named Jenks.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well no, if I believed in jinxes, most people wouldn't
get a black cat.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I think they're.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay. Well, whatever you read, bad, you smile bad. Probably
to take a shower.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Police quickly find out the identity of the man. His
name is Steve Nunn. Steve is the fifty six year
old son of Louis, and he is also the man
listed on Amanda's protective order. Steve was a prominent figure
came together it is He was prominent figure following in
his father's footsteps. He was elected to be as a
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state representative in Kentucky and had formerly ran for the
governorship Steve was arrested on gun charges. To get him
in jail while they figured out his involvement with Amanda's murder,
they took his car into evidence and they found a
Manila envelope with a seven page rant on how the
world was unfair to him and that they were out
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to get him, and how he blamed Amanda for most
all of his problems and he wanted revenge.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So it's pretty clear cut.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, end, that was our case for this week. They
learn that Amanda was Steve's former fiance, and just three
days later, using the letter and ballistic evidence at the
crime scene, they charged Steve with the murder of Amanda.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right, this is where in the episode that we
do the.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No the pause.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You say, I'm sure you're wondering how we got here,
you know that, like the Saved by the Bell where
everybody pauses in the background.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
No. No, I'm used to the different into the past.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like the Twilight Zone. No Oh, anyway, so we go
back twenty years because we need to figure out how
we got here. It didn't just we didn't just roll
up on here and someone's drunk in a in a
cemetery and you know, murdering people. So we go back
twenty years to try to and we learn a little
more about Steve and his life growing up. Now, Steve
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grew up in the limelight. As you can imagine, he
was a good looking kid. They kept telling they kept
saying it as he was older when he was running
for stuff, that he was like a good looking guy.
He was not a good looking guy when he was older.
I'm no, he was not.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Fuck he fell out of the ugly tree and had
at least five or six branches.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean, I don't know if he was that ugly,
but he was not. I would not classify him as
good a good looking politicians. Yeah, so anyway, So but
as a kid, he was good looking or better looking.
And his dad's you know, prominent governor who was very popular,
and so he did get quite a bit of attention.
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And he had this last name that everybody in Kentucky knew,
and so Steve he grew up going to like fancy
parties and being recognized as part of this family, probably
getting his way a lot with stuff and everything. Despite
all this, though, they did say he was a nice
He was a generally like nice person.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
He wasn't respectfully, young man.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yes. So in nineteen ninety one, Steve decides to move
into the political world where he is elected as a
state represent representative. So he that's when he's done the
Kentucky Senate.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Stewart, it sounds like his state rep.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not a senator, No, I think he No, he's a
I thought he was a senator in the Kentucky Senate.
He's a senator. I probably just put that, Stewart, Okay, Now,
why do you have to argue with me.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm just telling you what you wrote.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He was a senator, Okay. I later wrote senator, which
is what he was. Oh, but I put he serves
in the house.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I don't know, Stu. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I had to write my my.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Work, like I hope you did it better than you
wrote this.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Where I work, we have to write our own pat
on the back, our own de It's called like, uh,
what is it? But you're like your annual review or whatever.
So you have to write your coming I word for
is weird. So you have to write your own So
I had to spend like four hours today because I
have to get it. I had to get it done today.
So I spent like four hours today writing, telling every
(12:11):
like typing up out how great I am. And yes,
it's a very weird system. I'm not going to go
into it. But anyway, so yeah, i'd fried my brain.
So yes, I did reread my thing because it is
work like several times.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I hope that you didn't like you did this.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't know it could I've got I got a
meet in the morning with my boss and he'll probably
be like, what's what the fuck.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You were trying to say here? I'll be like, sorry,
is the draft.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Anyway? So they so he ends up in the Senate
or the House one or the other, one or the
other for the next fifteen years. And they talk about
him being like a compassionate person and you know, wanting
to help out with the underprivileged like his father. His
dad was no own kind of for his policies where
he would you know, start public programs and this included
(13:06):
public television and other programs to help the underprivilege. Now,
Louis was wonderful in the public's eye, like I said,
very popular governor. However, behind the scenes he was known
to be very tough, very critical. I mean, I'm assuming
most politicians behind the scenes, if you if you're rising
to that level or whatever, you're probably not the I
(13:28):
wouldn't say you're one hundred percent nice behind the scenes.
You gotta be a little cutthroat, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Gotta be a little cutthroat. You gotta discipline your children
and can't be like patting him on the back smiling. Oh,
he's such a great kid. He's a little shit sometimes.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Then I gotta no, that is not you're reading the
room wrongs due you would just wait till critical of
his he's Oh, he's overly critical. He's one of these
dads that's never happy, always disappointed. It's never enough. And
Steve was getting the brunt.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Of that, like he's got the Kero syndrome.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh, shut up, stew that's only for you. Wow, Yes,
that's only my critique of you. So Steve worked hard
to win his father's approval, but he just couldn't seem
to do it. No matter what he did. He was
just really critical of him, never going to say he
was proud of him. But it was all very ironic
because old Daddy Louis was hiding some secrets of his
(14:24):
own from the public. Now he had several mistresses. Stu
really and now the family all knew about this, including
his wife Beulah, and she tolerated it for years. But
as she was getting older, she was getting tired of
this disrespect because a lot of people said the reason
that he was governor is because she was behind him.
(14:44):
You know, there's usually like a strong wife behind these
politicians that make it up. And she was that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Strong wife that ken all the secrets.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Keeping the secrets, helping run all the chaos behind the scenes,
presenting as this nice couple and everything. They had their
one child together, all that stuff. So she's getting tired
of this disrespect and like because it was at the
point where he was even taking the mistress's calls at
during dinner and he'd like get up front with Beulah
(15:14):
and Steve and just leave the table be like, hey, baby,
may just be calling, you know. Yeah, So it was
getting out of hand. He was way too I mean,
at least try to hide your mistresses, I guess, out
of respect for your wife. So Beulah, she actually becomes
sick with cancer and tensions continue to rise in the household,
causing a division with Steve because he or with Steve
(15:35):
and his father because Steve decided to side with his mother. Now,
unlike his father, Steve's mother adored him and always praised him,
so it was no surprise that he took her side.
She just was always coming up and saying, you know what,
I'm proud of you, even though your dad sucks or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's a dick.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Now. All this tension and all this stuff going on
in the house all came to a head one night
when Steve got into it with his dad over him
his mom and actually punched him. And that is when
Louis gave Beulah an ultimatum to either choose him or
choose her son. And guess who she chose, who her son.
So Louie moves out that night, and Beulah f filed
(16:15):
for a divorce. So this is after he's not governor anymore,
so he can get a little missy you know out there.
Steve stepped into the role as caregiver for his mother
and he was by her side until she passed away.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
With the fall of the family from grace, Steve was
still working his way in the political world when he
met Tracy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Damren Damren, damnit dam they never pronounced her last name.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
In nineteen ninety five. Tracy was from a very wealthy
family and would be a perfect match for someone like
Steve and his political aspirations.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes apparently, Okay, when I saw her on the show,
I was like, Okay, this bitch has got some money,
because she was she was kinda she looked real, like
her skins and everything real pretty and everything all put together.
But she was quirky though. But it's like a quirky
that you're like, oh, you have money, because you know,
it's quirky if you're eccentric, if you're rich, if you're poor,
(17:12):
you're just crazy. But anyways, but when we're talking money,
I believe she her family. I tried to look up
to see what their network it was, but all I
could find out they owned coal mines. And so apparently
her grandpa or somebody bought a coal mine for like
two million dollars and it was estimated to be worth
like thirty seven billion dollars or something. So that was
(17:33):
the estimate. So I'm assuming she was at least fault.
Their family was at least falling in the billionaire range.
I don't know if it was all the way up
at thirty seven billion, but it was I'm sure if
it was estimated to be that much, at least was.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Worth a couple of billions.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, when We Buy a coal Mine podcast March. Oh yeah,
this podcast takes Yeah, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I mean we're offt halfway or now what.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Do you always joke about that? It's not funny.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I find it hilarious, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But it's just it's just not.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Getting back to our case. They were married very quickly,
and Steve started living the good life very quickly, private
planes and fancy dinners. But none of this made a
difference with his dad, who wrote him a letter saying
that he had no family anymore and that he was
done with. Well, evidently Louis does because he's pissed off
(18:29):
about getting punched in the face.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, I mean it's not like Steve's family didn't come
with have any money. They lived in like this mansion
or whatever, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Tax para money though the governor and poly.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I mean, yeah, it's not going to be coal mining money.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No. Tracy would not accept this, and she spoke to
Louis and the two eventually reconciled.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, she talks about how it took her a couple months,
but she said, sometimes you just need that soft spokenness
of a woman to explain the situation.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
In a couple billion dollars behind you.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes, I think maybe she's I think we're missing some
some steps between. I spoke to him, and then they started.
He came back into his life.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I think there was said, We've got enough money to
run you for the rest of your life if you
don't shape up.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. Now, with his new marriage and his relationship with
his dad going better, Steve was happier than ever. You've
got himself, this rich wife, she's good looking. Dad's back
in his corner. So in nineteen ninety eight he had
another big win. He passed a wrote legislation and passed
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a bill in the Kentucky legislature. And this bill was
for domestic violence victims, and basically is it was to
help protect them more by saying, if you have a
protective order against somebody and that person violates that and
murders you, then they are eligible for the death penalty
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in Kentucky. So basically, you've already had a war, you're
supposed to stay away. You didn't. You killed this person,
We're going to throw the book at you.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So irony has come full circle.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yes, irony has come.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That was the irony.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes. So it was a great bill, and it was
a big win for those suffering from domestic violence because
it put another like I mean, the problem is, though,
if someone's that obsessed with you or wants to hurt
you that bad, it's it's hard to get anything to.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Stop them other than a bullet.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah. So in two thousand and two, so he's had this,
got this marriage. Dad's in the corner, got this win
with this bill getting He's very popular and everything. So
in two thousand and two he decided to run for
the governorship. Tracy was pushing him. I'm sure Dado was
pushing him. Got to keep the family name in there.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
He got some money to sell fund yep.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So he sets up campaign headquarters in his father's mansion. Well,
his dad quickly takes over the campaign, of course, but
this did not help. You know, he's running all the
stuff in the background, telling Steve what to do. Well,
this didn't help because Steve just the facts. The matter is,
he was not as charismatic as his dad. While his
dad was kind of a shitty person on the inside,
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he was to the public. He knew how to talk
to people. He knew how to politic. Steve was more
like not the nice guy, but he did not have
that public persona where he could win people over and
things like that. So he did end up losing and
it was kind of bad and embarrassing because he got
third place.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's not bad, but there.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Were only three.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Now, despite this loss, Now I thought they were gonna
say Dad wrote him another letter, never spoke to him.
Despite this loss, Louis did stay in his life because
I'm sure he's like, well, his wife's still a billionaire,
so I'll hang around. But he was disappointed, but he did.
But he was kind of his fault partly. He was
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running the campaign and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I mean, if I ran, i'd probably finished tenth
out of two people. I don't think anybody would like me.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I don't nobody liked him. You can't run. I
know what you're being sarcastic.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, I mean if they heckled me and would be like, hey,
fuck you, TI buddy.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They actually wrote in new people so that she.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, I'd be ten further down.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yes, they actually started off with three candidates but ended
up with ten because so many people.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Were mad, Donald Duck, all the writing candidates. Yeah, we
now get to a story from Tracy, who's the eccentric
rich lady. Rich Lady x X will eventually.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Be ex wife.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I mean, we'd call her crazy, but.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
She's loaded, so she's eccentric.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
So she's going to tell us about this bird. It's
Christmas of two thousand and four. The whole family was
having dinner at the nun mansion and.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Having a good time. She said, everybody's dressed to the nines,
best China, love and life.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yep. And this is when a mocking bird hit the
window and continued to fly into it until it died.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
She talked about like blood coming out of its chest
and stuff that sounds.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I've had birds hit the window and they just well
they hit. Yeah, they they hit and they fall in
their dazed or they're dead.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah. They we haven't hit. Like where I work, the
building is like all glass from top to bottom, and
I still like so every once in a while I
sit by a window and every once in a while
they look out there and there's a dead bird. And
a lot of times they do die and it's sad.
But there was one that flew into the side like
when you walk out exit the building one of the
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windows over there, and his wings were fully splayed and
so forever there was like this for like two weeks.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It because I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
There's no you know, there's no rain here, and they
hadn't came and cleaned the windows.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh there's rain when you want to go out to
the pool.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well, yeah, this is true. So anyways, I guess the
bird had like dust on him, or so much dust
on the window. It like flopped in there and you
could just see his spready like his his his wings
spread out and it's just like so depressing. And then
the bird laid there forever and then something carried it.
I watched the progression of this bird, his body get
(24:16):
moved around until finally dispar Yeah. That was Macall.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Get it?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah? I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Isn't that what a bird?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Didn't there a Macall bird?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
There's a Macall But cool, cool, there's a monkey called
macaque Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's not even true.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It is true. Jackass had a little macock con monkey
and he's like, this is my cock doing push ups
and all this stuff. Yeah, okay, Johnny Knoxville or somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Okay, I didn't watch a lot of Jackets.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I didn't watch. However, I did see the Macoq episode
with the monkey.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I just remember, don't feed Phil. This wasn't this was
the one guy. This is bayam Mar Jarrow what's his name?
And he had his dad was like really big and
so he made him shirts that said don't feed Phil,
and like nobody was allowed to feed him or whatever.
He did a show anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I didn't watch jack Ass.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, it wasn't Jackass. It was like another show.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm sure he spin off from Jackass.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, I'm sure. Anyway, back to the floot of the day.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Back to crazy story about this bird flying constantly in
the window until it actually does die. But because we're
saying it's a one and done, yeah, they fly in,
they kill themselves or their day.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Well, no, it gets worse because she's you know, I.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Know it gets worse. Okay, I was saying, I don't
believe that the bird kept flying it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
No, I don't either. I think they were had a
little too much to drink.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh yeah, I think Tracy was on something alcohol or
something that harder.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Allegedly money. She could be listening, she could give me something, Okay,
get on with it. People are getting frustrated.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Supposedly, the birds, the mocking birds kept coming back. And
a month later, No, but.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You miss skipped the part where they talked about Louie
said said he told everyone that it was a bad
omen and that it meant death, and he was worried
the birds were coming. He's like, I hope the birds
aren't coming after me, and he was joking about it. Supposedly, yeah,
but everybody else apparently took it very seriously.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well. Supposedly the birds dead too, because they kept coming
back month after month.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yes, no, not month, all month long, she said. Birds.
The birds kept doing this, like flying into the window
and killing themselves. Again. I don't believe this happened, but okay.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And then a month after the initial dinner, on Christmas,
Louis was dead from a heart attack. Tracy said. They
moved into the home the same night that his father does.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Now, if you're worried about bad omens, why would you
move into that creepy ass mansion the same night that
he died.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Why are you there with your bags ready to go?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You don't have it. Did they just push him out
of the master bedroom? And as soon as the ambulance
holed his body off, did they even change the sheets?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Tracy also claims that the house had bad energy and
may have been haunted. Yet again, why are you moving in?
Steve slowly turns into his father while he's in the house.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
This is Tracy telling this.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, Tracy telling us all this stuff. And he begins
drinking excessively, and he becomes obsessed with the birds outside.
He continued following in his father's footsteps, and he began
having affairs, and he didn't try to hide them from Tracy.
Tracy said she started he started to lose his mind,
stating that he was, in fact Louis being nuts.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Whenever he'd get really drunk, can cheat hold him and stuff,
he'd say, I'm Louis.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
She said it was something like out of the Shining
or Amityville horror.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Again, this is Tracy telling this week. We need some
outside sources to confirm.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
And then Tracy said the final straw came when he
lost his state Senate seat in two thousand and six
due to his behavior of drinking and carrying on. Tracy
also decided to finally leave Steve that same year. After
putting up with him for years.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, him him not being a that was the last thing.
She's like, you're not even a sinner anymore. I can't
even do well. It's probably embarrassing for her, you know,
because it was getting out around the town.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes. Yeah, the schmuck is cheating on me. I got money, bitch,
I got options. Yeah, I can, even though I'm a
crazy but.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
She and she's good looking too, so she could definitely.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I mean, I've let her talk about mocking birds, like, sure,
you got billions of dollars, you're pretty tell me about
all these mocking birds out in the window. I don't
get a ship.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
After his life is completely falling apart, Steve tried to
make a political comeback by crossing party lines and endorsing
Steve Basher for governor s because Steve and his dad
were Republicans and the state of Kentucky was slowly turning
towards Democrat and so he's like, this is my this
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is my chance.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
This is how I revived. Yeah, switch party support this dude.
He'll give me a cushy little assignment in his cabinet, yeah,
or his administration, and saved me from.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
This back in so Basher. He did win, and Steve
was on the upped up for a while. He's riding
this new high. He's not drinking anymore. He's pulling his
life together. And to top off his comeback, he runs
into Amanda Ross. Now he knew Amanda from her father,
who was actually a lobbyist for Steve, you know, at
(30:04):
some point, and so he had met Amanda a couple
of years before. But Amanda at that time was married
the last time he saw her, and now she is not.
She had gotten divorced. Now he's excited about this because
she is pretty and she is about half his age.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm still going with the pretty billionaire.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But okay, yeah, so Steve is or she's and then
she also, on top of all this, is interested in Steve.
Now she does, I mean she's they're both kind of
when they met, they kind of had ulterior motives for
political reasons. I think anybody who's running for office or
in politics always has that kind of like how is
(30:45):
this going to help me make it? You know? Further up,
So Amanda, she's young, she's new in politics, she has
you know, family that's been in politics for decades. Steve,
he's seeing this like, Okay, this might be a good
move for me to have this young woman that's that's
up and coming. And then yeah, and then Amanda is
(31:08):
also looking at Steve. He's this well known last name.
He just got back this governor that one, like things
are looking up for him, and so I think they
both kind of saw it as an opportunity on top
of just like liking each other.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're reading a lot of shit in that.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'm not reading a lot of shit into it. That's
what they said.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
They said she was.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
From the Aphrodite Jones. She said that they're from she was.
Amanda was had like a political pedigree. She may not
have had as much money or as much clout as Steve,
but she was going down that path of politics. And
she's young and fresh and new and everything like that.
Plus she's half his age, so he's definitely gonna hop
on that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Why wouldn't he. So, as we were saying previously, Amanda
lands a lucrative job in the State Department of Insurance
for Kentucky. For Kentucky, it was a department head level
and it was very important.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, she's like a director.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, Yeah, she's up there in the admin up there
pretty high. Steve also got a boost in his political
career because Governor Bursher appointed him as Secretary of Health
and Family Services over the domestic abuse policy.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I did look up the Basher guy. He's no longer governor,
but his son's the governor.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So this is just family living off the name.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What the nuns wanted to do is now happening.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Things start to get even better for Steve and Amanda
when they become engaged on Amanda's twenty ninth birthday.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh Steve, Yeah, and he used old Steve's mother, Beulah's ring,
so it's probably a pretty good sized ring.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Probably a nice rock. But things began going downhill quickly
after that. Amanda was jealous and Steve was flirting, and
then he began drinking again and made things even worse.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, and I think she was a she liked drinking
as well, and so we got this this thing. She'd
get jealous, but then he'd make it worse because he
probably was flirting with people because that's what he did
to his ex wife, So she had reasons.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
She had her reasons, so we know Tracy was not lying.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Just six months later they call off the engagement and
Steve moved out, but they remained in contact. In February
of two thousand and nine, Amanda and Steve were at
her apartment and they were drinking. He wanted to leave,
but she argued with him, and supposedly she would not
let him leave, so they got into a physical altercation
(33:45):
and he ends up slapping her and throwing her up
against the wall, breaking the lamp in the process.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, two people drinking probably shouldn't be arguing, especially if
they got violent tempers. Police were called do the apartment
and it was noted that they both had marks, they
both had bruises. It appeared that they were both aggressors
in this fight. Amanda filed for an emergency protective order
against Steve, which is ironic, and this quickly got out
(34:14):
to the news. He was placed on administrative leave until
this was sorted out. Yes, you don't want to be
the director in charge of.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Family domestic abuse policy and now you've been accused of
domestic abuse, So yeah, it seemed I mean, I don't
want to say anything bad about the victim in this
or anything like that, but it did appear that she
he had cuts and things like on him. And then
she had bruises. So not saying what he did was okay,
but it did seem like maybe she was doing things
(34:44):
as well. It was just a bad situation in general. Now, Steve,
he's going out trying to save his career, and so
he starts claiming that Amanda was baiting him and wanted
to ruin his career and she was successful. Now do
I personally think maybe that she did the protective order
because it would run him? Yes, I do believe that, Okay,
(35:09):
because they from what I could tell, they only had
this one incident, so it wasn't like and like I said,
they both had. They both seemed to be into it
with each other and everything that. So do I think
that she probably was thinking, Okay, I'm really gonna get him.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Not saying he didn't deserve the protective order, I'm just
saying she knew, she knew it would probably it would
end him whenever she did this. Not saying anything he
did was right. I'm just saying that, Uh No.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
He sounds like a Skis bottle and we had a coming.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So yeah, So Steve begins drinking heavily again, of course,
of course, and he becomes more and more angry towards Amanda,
so he starts spiraling. At this point, he's just, you know,
the world's out to get me guy. He begins trying
to see how he could run her political career. So
he takes naked photos of her, and he begins showing
them around town, all the circles that she would be
(35:59):
pol Tians would be in and things like that. So
just a terrible human. Now on top of this, Amanda
began telling friends and co workers that Steve had started
to follow her or she would just see his car nearby.
He never I don't think he ever approached her, but
he was.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He was lurking, keeping tabs on her.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, because he's become upset. He before I think he was,
because I think before it was more of like normal
shithead behavior. And then now he's been he's now gone.
He's the scales have tipped and he's become psychopath.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's got a bottle of Scotch in the car drinking.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, he got nothing else to do. She's just over
there living in that mansion that his family was in,
his dad who hated him and didn't think he was
good enough and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
And should have bonaire x M yep.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So at this point she decides to buy that handgun
for her protection because she's just worried that he's going
to try to kill her. Now, at one point, she
did say that like one of the closest encounters that
she had with him was she left. This is from
a coworker saying that Amanda came back in and told
her this. She had left work to go to lunch.
She goes outside and she comes pretty not face to face,
(37:10):
but she turns the corner and it's just Steve just
staring her down or whatever. So she's scared, so she
runs back into the office and tells her coworker about this.
And this was just a few days before her murder.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
On September tenth, Steve went to the legislature's office, where
he had served for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
And I use that word right, legislature, Yes, okay, whether
it be House or Senate, the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Legislature, the legislature, well, his old coworkers colleagues, Yeah, what
you call.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
When I was taiying and I was like, it's not coworkers.
I guess they're kind of they're all employed by the taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yes, well, they all shunned him. They didn't want to
be seen with him. They didn't want the stink on them,
ruining their chances of re election later on down the road.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Not to mention, he probably's coming in freaking like hungover
or partially drunk, showing up at the damn.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Legislator dan Ackroyd from Trading Places where he's in the
Santa suit and he's pulling salmon out of a Santa suit.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know that reference, Stewart, We've.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Never watched Trading Places to no.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, so he's probably looking like disheveled and a mess. Anyway,
So maybe if he'd came in there, you know, buttoned
up and looking clean and everything like that, maybe they
would have talked to him. But they're definitely just get
out of here, guy, you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, that sounds exactly like Trading Places where dan Ackroyd
went back to the farm and all the co workers
shunned him. They're like, no, get out of here because
they framed him from embezzelin or something like that from
the company.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Well that's helped Steve felt.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
This sounds exactly like a scenes from Trading Place.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, I told you the ID channel. They're always coming
up with these things. You can't make the shit up
what they come up with.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And then same thing with Steve that dan Akroy did
the next day. He just went batshit crazy and Steve,
maybe they got.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
The idea for that over how old is that movie?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It's older than okay. He then drove to Well the
next day he ambushed a man. That's when he ambushed her,
was in shot her three times. He then drove to
his parents' graves, where he was found by police. He's
arrested and upon further examination, the Manila envelope that was
found in his car is labeled Psycho Bitch File compiled
(39:38):
on August seventh, two thousand and nine, where he wrote
his dissertation on why Amanda needed to die and what
she had done to him.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Psycho bitch file. That's also what my file.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was your nickname in high school, wasn't it. He
held her responsible for everything that had gone wrong in
his life, and I the law that he wrote in
nineteen ninety eight would make him eligible for the death penalty.
Now to avoid the death penalty, Steve pled guilty in
June of twenty eleven to intentional murder with aggravated circumstances
(40:16):
so that he could receive life without parole.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Now, the prosecutor on was on there being interviewed, and
he wanted to make sure it was clear that anytime
this happens, if someone wants to plead guilty of as
long as it's life without parole, they will accept it.
So he didn't get any special treatment because of his family,
which makes sense because no one gives a fuck about
(40:39):
his family. The dad's dead, he was a.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
All the way child.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Mom's dead.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, and he's a disgrace and nobody cares. He can't
do anything for them anymore anyways.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I he hanging, got no children.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, so a man is friends and family want her
to be known as the intelligent, caring and vivacious person
that she was, and so they wanted to make sure
that they did that she didn't die in vain and
that something good could come out of it. So they
worked really hard to pass a law in Amanda's honor.
And the law is called Amanda's Law in Kentucky and
(41:13):
it allows for those with protective orders to put a
tracking device on their perpetrator. I don't know if it's
on the car or on the person. I would hope
it'd be on the person because they could run a boat. Yeah,
so I guess I don't. I didn't look into the
details about it, but I guess it allows them to
(41:33):
request to that that they have a tracking device, which
I think that's great, especially women that have stalkers and
stuff like that. They just need to know when when
they're showing up. All right, that is our case out
of Kentucky. Stu, do you have a y'all need Jesus?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I always do.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I am always ready.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Only fans model who filmed herself urinating on grocery store
food ew busted for hotel room peacepree EW, including on
a bibbyl. Maybe you have heard of them on a
bibyl a Bible?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Is it the what's the one.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That's awaking James version?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Well, no, there's also I feel like the Mormon Bible
is always.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
In there too, unless they started putting some in there.
I know nothing. I haven't checked my hotel room because.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
You got a no, Stuart, we just started we started
back on hotels. We I think we even explain this,
all right, Maybe I explained it in a video on Instagram.
I don't know how we've switched back to hotels because
the Airbnb fees are outrageous.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
And now I don't actually claim.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, they make you pay like a two hundred do
I swear it's like, and we don't stay at big
Airbnb's like we're our goal is to try to just
get at least one bedroom for our price range, just
because the kids we can close the door and then
we can still be out in the front room. So
even though there's we're a family of five, we're cramming
into a one bedroom and hoping and then sometime times
(43:00):
it's saying even one bedroom. Sometimes it's like and then
it's always like one hundred and fifty to two hundred
dollars cleaning fee. And then as you're living there, you're like,
they didn't pay nobody to come clean this. They came
and took some little cloths and wipe down themselves. They
didn't clean under anything. To me, if you pay two
hundred dollars for that size at home, that's a professional
(43:20):
cleaning fee. Yes, that's that's only they need to pay
someone who's.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Because we find out when the kid's toy rolls under
the couch. When I left that man, they were like cheese. Yeah,
did we get cream cheese? No, that's not our under
the couch. Yeah, well dust.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Anyways, we did have been switched back to hotels, although
it sounds like from.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
This ironically enough, when we went to Corpus Christy, we
did go to the Lexington.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
What does that have to do with anything, because this
was at a.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Oh, that's where this case just was Jesus christ.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I just said that.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Oh I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Listening to you. You said, that's where we just covered
this case.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I said, ironically enough, When we went to Corpus Christie,
we went to the Lexington because we stayed at that
hotel in Corpus Christi okay, And we went to the Lexington.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Oh, this case or that case that you're reading that
y'all need Jesus. No, oh, I thought you meant that
y'all need Jesus was out of Lexington. And that's when
I was like, oh, that's crazy. Oh my god. If
I can hear the reviews writing itself right.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Now, if anybody's listening this long, this is their this
is their.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Fault, I can just hear the reviews.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Anybody that's gotten this far and is hearing this, it's
their own fault. Now. They should have punched out the
first five minutes of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
When I went on that Spotify rant.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, when you went on the Spotify rent, they should.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Have left them all right, go on about this lady.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's Florida or not Florida, not Florida. Okay, you're correct.
I think we this lady already because she was peeing
on groceries. Either that or I just read the story
and I thought it would be good. Y'all need Jesus?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Well, yeah, because you asked me that. I don't remember,
but maybe someone else does.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Coming to us from the New York Post by Emily Crane,
published April seventeenth, twenty twenty five. So this is fresh pea.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well, so then we haven't covered this one.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We have what episs her get it?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Okay, how we have covered? If it's from April seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
A New Hampshire Only fans model who allegedly filmed herself
urinating on grocery store food has been busted over a
peace bree in a hotel room, including on a Bible cups. Yeah,
she was the one that was peeing on the grocery
store food for content or something. Oh maybe, so she's
already been busted for pe and on grocery store food.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Do the rut and this domestic violence thing. If you
get peeing on death penalty.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I think we said that one. I think we did
cover because you said that she needed the death penalty.
Kelly Dford twenty four, was hit with fresh charges this
week for allegedly urinating all over a room at a
Marriott hotel. Write this down in Keene back in January
court documents Shell. Okay, so if we ever go to Keene, New.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Hampshire, because we're Marriot people.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, we're Marriot people. I don't know this one.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Well, I don't know. We're not Marriot people. Were residents
in Fairfield.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, occasionally a courtyard.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
We're in the family.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yes, we're not in like Marriods.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
No. Tedford, who goes by Kinki Kelly on only Fans,
is accused of recording herself peeing on an air conditioner unit, comforter,
curtains and the Bible inside the room. The document's charge.
She is also allegedly defecated on the floor, be hiding
(46:53):
before hiding her feces in the tank of the toilet,
which is called an upper decker if heard.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I've never heard of this store.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Were you poop in the tank?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh, she's not even cute.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
So that whenever they flush.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
It, stud to show me a picture of her.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
The poop comes into the bowl.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I didn't know that. No, what is wrong with you?
Why do you know that?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Because you go to your friend's house and you just know.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
You do not go to your friend's house. You do
not do that.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
No, you go to a friend's house that's not really
your friend, and you're like, hey, no.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
You need to just stop talking or I'm going to
suggest the death penalty for you.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Ah. The alleged purp was hit with five criminal mischief
charges over the sickening ordeal. The filings obtained by The
Smoking Gun show the gross saga allegedly unfolded just weeks
before she was arrested for spraying a slew of products
at the Monaded Knock Food co Op, which is located
(47:52):
in Keene with her urine. Yeah, she was peeing on
the stuff at the grocery store. Then she went to
this hotel room did the same thing film content.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, but house watching this, Okay, But.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Then she got busted for the grocery store, which was
like fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars worth of shit, and
then they found out about this hotel room.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Okay, Well, she's probably making a shit ton of money.
That's why she's willing to risk this to go do
the upper deck or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Her alleged display costs the grocery store roughly fifteen hundred
dollars for ruin products and cleaning expenses. Yeah, because that's
the one.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Well, you can't go to that pr you can't you
can't undo that, you can't put that toothpaste back of
the tube for the public. That Now that's known as
the grocery store, the co op that has pea all
over it, like there's no.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
A local store first forced to issue or recall for
organic quenoa corn.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Meal, I mean technically it was still organic.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Coconut shreads and raw walnuts. Hedford allegedly relieved herself on
the products.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
And she's peeing on stuff that soaks up things too. Yes,
it's not like she's peeing on an orange where it's
just going to roll off. She's peeing on things that
like pastas and quenewaws and coconut shreds that are going
to soak up the the urine. Yes, death penalty.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Cop said. The grocery store footage was among a trove
of online videos they uncover that documented a similar disgusting
acts dating back to at least twenty twenty one. At
this time, it appears likely that similar historic incidents Occurrerding
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surfaces with her urine. She was slapped with a criminal
mischief charge over the grocery store ordeal and is due
to be arraignged on all other charges on May eighth.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
They need to throw her in prison for a long time,
for life, all right, Well thanks for with no bathroom.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yes she just a pee on her own, sleep in it, yes, sleeping?
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh try her, no, put her in prison. Have her
pull that shit in prison and see how long she
lasts peeing on people's stuff.
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Yeah not jel prison.
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y'all need Jesus for the week. We are going on
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In fact, nobody's probably listening at this point is probably
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Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless this Mess in the True Podcast.
I don't care who was Dusa haystuhy. All right, we're
back this week and we are covering an episode out
of Kentucky. No, a case out of Kentucky. It was
a it was a very strange case that I caught
watching True Crime with Aphrodity Jones. So we're gonna be
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covering that. It's about a senator who lost his marbles.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To was congressman lost his marbles?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
No, he was a Kentucky State senator.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh yeah, what season? What episode and season was this?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I don't know, Stuart, Why would you ask me? Why
don't you do some research? All you have to just
find out what episode?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm doing research. I'm asking a question, you're asking me, Yes,
that's my research. All right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
So back to the case. It is out of Kentucky.
We haven't been to Kentucky in a while.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They don't cover a lot of stuff that's out of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It seems like there's just Bardstown.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Bardstown is all you all y'all got out There is Bartstown,
the case that just keeps on giving. So yeah, we're
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Which one is it? Because we have from the people
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Stop looking at me like that. We got permission from
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We are all in any other podcasts still doing it?
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Eight years ago.
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I'm really bad at the tiktoks, so I try, but
it's I'm not the best at posting there. But all right,
so let's go ahead and get into our case out
of Kentucky. So we start in lexing Kinton, Kentuck. Good lord, Kentucky,
look up.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't know. No, I'm not Pensentucky. I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That Tony fella.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, Pensentucky you know on the Orange is the New Black?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, what that was like twenty years ago?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh my god. Anyways, in Lexington, Kentucky, on September eleventh,
two thousand and nine, around six am, twenty nine year
old Amanda Ross is walking to her car at her
apartment complex. Now, Amanda worked at the State Department of Insurance.
Didn't know that was a thing, but it's a thing. Yes,
State Department of Insurance.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The Virginia State Department of Insurance.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh okay, I mean like the state department. So it'd
be the Kentucky State Department of Insurance.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yes' not the State Department of I can't think of
That is.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So weird, like such a weird place to work.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Why would they name it like something that state?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It has one?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Anyways, Okay, it makes more sense if you put Kentucky
State Department of Insurance and you put like a little
bit of a pause between. Okay. So she had aspirations
to work in politics, and this job was kind of
her foot in the door. Suddenly there are gun shots
heard and Amanda lay on the asphalt. A detectives arrive
at the scene after witnesses called police after hearing those gunshots.
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Now she is rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead.
Now at the crime scene, they find her purse with
her BlackBerry iPhone, a handgun, and everything else was still there,
so robbery was quickly ruled out. Another interesting item in
her purse was a paper for a protective order, and
they quickly learned that she was in a domestic violence
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situation and that is why she was carrying that handgun. Now,
as they are falling up on leads from Amanda's murder,
they receive another tip stew Yes, Now, this one is
about a man in a cemetery out in Horse Cave, Kentucky.
Horse Cave, Yeah, familiar. No, Now, this is about two
hours away from Lexington where Amanda was murdered. Now, someone
(05:56):
saw a fanny pack covered in blood, a knife, and
a man with a handgun. Well, police arrive on the
scene and they do find that man. He is drunk.
He's waving around a thirty eight. He's telling police that
he's going to try to kill himself, and all of
a sudden he shoots the gun and then falls to
the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sounds like something out of a movie. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I told you this is like some of these ID
channel like Discovery, ID Network, they have like the craziest
like Dayline don't really cover crazy shit like this, you know,
They're like, we're gonna find some crazy shit. And so
these I do like those shows because they do they
have interesting, like just weird things that you wouldn't that
(06:36):
you couldn't make up, you know. So they think he
has killed himself because he said I'm gonna kill myself
and then he shoots a gun off and fell to
the ground. So they run over there and he is
not dead.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Not dead, no, not even shot no.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So the blood all over him is actually from where
he tried to cut his wrists. They can see it
coming out of his wrist. And when he shot the gun,
he just kind of shot it into the air. He
didn't actually kill himsel like shoot at himself. He just
kind of I guess, maybe up by his head. So
they notice he is near a set of graves, and
the graves belong to the Nun family, specifically the grave
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of Louis B. Nunn, who's the former governor of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You shut up.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I know it's getting interesting already. Are you on the
edge of your seat? I am good because it's your turn.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Please quickly find out the identity there man, man, I
can't read either. What the hell is going on?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, that's because you made fun of me?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So this is what Kara? Kara? You don't believe Kara?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What do you mean? I don't believe in karma?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You don't believe in Kara's jinx? You no, I got
a cat named Jenks.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well no, if I believed in jinxes, most people wouldn't
get a black cat.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I think they're.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay. Well, whatever you read, bad, you smile bad. Probably
to take a shower.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Police quickly find out the identity of the man. His
name is Steve Nunn. Steve is the fifty six year
old son of Louis, and he is also the man
listed on Amanda's protective order. Steve was a prominent figure
came together it is He was prominent figure following in
his father's footsteps. He was elected to be as a
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state representative in Kentucky and had formerly ran for the
governorship Steve was arrested on gun charges. To get him
in jail while they figured out his involvement with Amanda's murder,
they took his car into evidence and they found a
Manila envelope with a seven page rant on how the
world was unfair to him and that they were out
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to get him, and how he blamed Amanda for most
all of his problems and he wanted revenge.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So it's pretty clear cut.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, end, that was our case for this week. They
learn that Amanda was Steve's former fiance, and just three
days later, using the letter and ballistic evidence at the
crime scene, they charged Steve with the murder of Amanda.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right, this is where in the episode that we
do the.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No the pause.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You say, I'm sure you're wondering how we got here,
you know that, like the Saved by the Bell where
everybody pauses in the background.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
No. No, I'm used to the different into the past.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like the Twilight Zone. No Oh, anyway, so we go
back twenty years because we need to figure out how
we got here. It didn't just we didn't just roll
up on here and someone's drunk in a in a
cemetery and you know, murdering people. So we go back
twenty years to try to and we learn a little
more about Steve and his life growing up. Now, Steve
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grew up in the limelight. As you can imagine, he
was a good looking kid. They kept telling they kept
saying it as he was older when he was running
for stuff, that he was like a good looking guy.
He was not a good looking guy when he was older.
I'm no, he was not.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Fuck he fell out of the ugly tree and had
at least five or six branches.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean, I don't know if he was that ugly,
but he was not. I would not classify him as
good a good looking politicians. Yeah, so anyway, So but
as a kid, he was good looking or better looking.
And his dad's you know, prominent governor who was very popular,
and so he did get quite a bit of attention.
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And he had this last name that everybody in Kentucky knew,
and so Steve he grew up going to like fancy
parties and being recognized as part of this family, probably
getting his way a lot with stuff and everything. Despite
all this, though, they did say he was a nice
He was a generally like nice person.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
He wasn't respectfully, young man.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yes. So in nineteen ninety one, Steve decides to move
into the political world where he is elected as a
state represent representative. So he that's when he's done the
Kentucky Senate.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Stewart, it sounds like his state rep.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not a senator, No, I think he No, he's a
I thought he was a senator in the Kentucky Senate.
He's a senator. I probably just put that, Stewart, Okay, Now,
why do you have to argue with me.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm just telling you what you wrote.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He was a senator, Okay. I later wrote senator, which
is what he was. Oh, but I put he serves
in the house.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I don't know, Stu. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I had to write my my.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Work, like I hope you did it better than you
wrote this.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Where I work, we have to write our own pat
on the back, our own de It's called like, uh,
what is it? But you're like your annual review or whatever.
So you have to write your coming I word for
is weird. So you have to write your own So
I had to spend like four hours today because I
have to get it. I had to get it done today.
So I spent like four hours today writing, telling every
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like typing up out how great I am. And yes,
it's a very weird system. I'm not going to go
into it. But anyway, so yeah, i'd fried my brain.
So yes, I did reread my thing because it is
work like several times.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I hope that you didn't like you did this.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't know it could I've got I got a
meet in the morning with my boss and he'll probably
be like, what's what the fuck.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You were trying to say here? I'll be like, sorry,
is the draft.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Anyway? So they so he ends up in the Senate
or the House one or the other, one or the
other for the next fifteen years. And they talk about
him being like a compassionate person and you know, wanting
to help out with the underprivileged like his father. His
dad was no own kind of for his policies where
he would you know, start public programs and this included
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public television and other programs to help the underprivilege. Now,
Louis was wonderful in the public's eye, like I said,
very popular governor. However, behind the scenes he was known
to be very tough, very critical. I mean, I'm assuming
most politicians behind the scenes, if you if you're rising
to that level or whatever, you're probably not the I
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wouldn't say you're one hundred percent nice behind the scenes.
You gotta be a little cutthroat, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Gotta be a little cutthroat. You gotta discipline your children
and can't be like patting him on the back smiling. Oh,
he's such a great kid. He's a little shit sometimes.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Then I gotta no, that is not you're reading the
room wrongs due you would just wait till critical of
his he's Oh, he's overly critical. He's one of these
dads that's never happy, always disappointed. It's never enough. And
Steve was getting the brunt.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Of that, like he's got the Kero syndrome.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh, shut up, stew that's only for you. Wow, Yes,
that's only my critique of you. So Steve worked hard
to win his father's approval, but he just couldn't seem
to do it. No matter what he did. He was
just really critical of him, never going to say he
was proud of him. But it was all very ironic
because old Daddy Louis was hiding some secrets of his
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own from the public. Now he had several mistresses. Stu
really and now the family all knew about this, including
his wife Beulah, and she tolerated it for years. But
as she was getting older, she was getting tired of
this disrespect because a lot of people said the reason
that he was governor is because she was behind him.
(14:44):
You know, there's usually like a strong wife behind these
politicians that make it up. And she was that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Strong wife that ken all the secrets.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Keeping the secrets, helping run all the chaos behind the scenes,
presenting as this nice couple and everything. They had their
one child together, all that stuff. So she's getting tired
of this disrespect and like because it was at the
point where he was even taking the mistress's calls at
during dinner and he'd like get up front with Beulah
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and Steve and just leave the table be like, hey, baby,
may just be calling, you know. Yeah, So it was
getting out of hand. He was way too I mean,
at least try to hide your mistresses, I guess, out
of respect for your wife. So Beulah, she actually becomes
sick with cancer and tensions continue to rise in the household,
causing a division with Steve because he or with Steve
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and his father because Steve decided to side with his mother. Now,
unlike his father, Steve's mother adored him and always praised him,
so it was no surprise that he took her side.
She just was always coming up and saying, you know what,
I'm proud of you, even though your dad sucks or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's a dick.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Now. All this tension and all this stuff going on
in the house all came to a head one night
when Steve got into it with his dad over him
his mom and actually punched him. And that is when
Louis gave Beulah an ultimatum to either choose him or
choose her son. And guess who she chose, who her son.
So Louie moves out that night, and Beulah f filed
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for a divorce. So this is after he's not governor anymore,
so he can get a little missy you know out there.
Steve stepped into the role as caregiver for his mother
and he was by her side until she passed away.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
With the fall of the family from grace, Steve was
still working his way in the political world when he
met Tracy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Damren Damren, damnit dam they never pronounced her last name.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
In nineteen ninety five. Tracy was from a very wealthy
family and would be a perfect match for someone like
Steve and his political aspirations.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes apparently, Okay, when I saw her on the show,
I was like, Okay, this bitch has got some money,
because she was she was kinda she looked real, like
her skins and everything real pretty and everything all put together.
But she was quirky though. But it's like a quirky
that you're like, oh, you have money, because you know,
it's quirky if you're eccentric, if you're rich, if you're poor,
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you're just crazy. But anyways, but when we're talking money,
I believe she her family. I tried to look up
to see what their network it was, but all I
could find out they owned coal mines. And so apparently
her grandpa or somebody bought a coal mine for like
two million dollars and it was estimated to be worth
like thirty seven billion dollars or something. So that was
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the estimate. So I'm assuming she was at least fault.
Their family was at least falling in the billionaire range.
I don't know if it was all the way up
at thirty seven billion, but it was I'm sure if
it was estimated to be that much, at least was.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Worth a couple of billions.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, when We Buy a coal Mine podcast March. Oh yeah,
this podcast takes Yeah, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I mean we're offt halfway or now what.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Do you always joke about that? It's not funny.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I find it hilarious, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But it's just it's just not.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Getting back to our case. They were married very quickly,
and Steve started living the good life very quickly, private
planes and fancy dinners. But none of this made a
difference with his dad, who wrote him a letter saying
that he had no family anymore and that he was
done with. Well, evidently Louis does because he's pissed off
(18:29):
about getting punched in the face.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, I mean it's not like Steve's family didn't come
with have any money. They lived in like this mansion
or whatever, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Tax para money though the governor and poly.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I mean, yeah, it's not going to be coal mining money.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No. Tracy would not accept this, and she spoke to
Louis and the two eventually reconciled.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, she talks about how it took her a couple months,
but she said, sometimes you just need that soft spokenness
of a woman to explain the situation.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
In a couple billion dollars behind you.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes, I think maybe she's I think we're missing some
some steps between. I spoke to him, and then they started.
He came back into his life.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I think there was said, We've got enough money to
run you for the rest of your life if you
don't shape up.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah. Now, with his new marriage and his relationship with
his dad going better, Steve was happier than ever. You've
got himself, this rich wife, she's good looking. Dad's back
in his corner. So in nineteen ninety eight he had
another big win. He passed a wrote legislation and passed
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a bill in the Kentucky legislature. And this bill was
for domestic violence victims, and basically is it was to
help protect them more by saying, if you have a
protective order against somebody and that person violates that and
murders you, then they are eligible for the death penalty
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in Kentucky. So basically, you've already had a war, you're
supposed to stay away. You didn't. You killed this person,
We're going to throw the book at you.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So irony has come full circle.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yes, irony has come.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That was the irony.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes. So it was a great bill, and it was
a big win for those suffering from domestic violence because
it put another like I mean, the problem is, though,
if someone's that obsessed with you or wants to hurt
you that bad, it's it's hard to get anything to.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Stop them other than a bullet.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah. So in two thousand and two, so he's had this,
got this marriage. Dad's in the corner, got this win
with this bill getting He's very popular and everything. So
in two thousand and two he decided to run for
the governorship. Tracy was pushing him. I'm sure Dado was
pushing him. Got to keep the family name in there.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
He got some money to sell fund yep.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So he sets up campaign headquarters in his father's mansion. Well,
his dad quickly takes over the campaign, of course, but
this did not help. You know, he's running all the
stuff in the background, telling Steve what to do. Well,
this didn't help because Steve just the facts. The matter is,
he was not as charismatic as his dad. While his
dad was kind of a shitty person on the inside,
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he was to the public. He knew how to talk
to people. He knew how to politic. Steve was more
like not the nice guy, but he did not have
that public persona where he could win people over and
things like that. So he did end up losing and
it was kind of bad and embarrassing because he got
third place.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's not bad, but there.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Were only three.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Now, despite this loss, Now I thought they were gonna
say Dad wrote him another letter, never spoke to him.
Despite this loss, Louis did stay in his life because
I'm sure he's like, well, his wife's still a billionaire,
so I'll hang around. But he was disappointed, but he did.
But he was kind of his fault partly. He was
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running the campaign and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I mean, if I ran, i'd probably finished tenth
out of two people. I don't think anybody would like me.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I don't nobody liked him. You can't run. I
know what you're being sarcastic.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, I mean if they heckled me and would be like, hey,
fuck you, TI buddy.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They actually wrote in new people so that she.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, I'd be ten further down.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yes, they actually started off with three candidates but ended
up with ten because so many people.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Were mad, Donald Duck, all the writing candidates. Yeah, we
now get to a story from Tracy, who's the eccentric
rich lady. Rich Lady x X will eventually.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Be ex wife.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I mean, we'd call her crazy, but.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
She's loaded, so she's eccentric.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
So she's going to tell us about this bird. It's
Christmas of two thousand and four. The whole family was
having dinner at the nun mansion and.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Having a good time. She said, everybody's dressed to the nines,
best China, love and life.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yep. And this is when a mocking bird hit the
window and continued to fly into it until it died.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
She talked about like blood coming out of its chest
and stuff that sounds.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I've had birds hit the window and they just well
they hit. Yeah, they they hit and they fall in
their dazed or they're dead.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah. They we haven't hit. Like where I work, the
building is like all glass from top to bottom, and
I still like so every once in a while I
sit by a window and every once in a while
they look out there and there's a dead bird. And
a lot of times they do die and it's sad.
But there was one that flew into the side like
when you walk out exit the building one of the
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windows over there, and his wings were fully splayed and
so forever there was like this for like two weeks.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It because I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
There's no you know, there's no rain here, and they
hadn't came and cleaned the windows.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh there's rain when you want to go out to
the pool.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well, yeah, this is true. So anyways, I guess the
bird had like dust on him, or so much dust
on the window. It like flopped in there and you
could just see his spready like his his his wings
spread out and it's just like so depressing. And then
the bird laid there forever and then something carried it.
I watched the progression of this bird, his body get
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moved around until finally dispar Yeah. That was Macall.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Get it?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah? I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Isn't that what a bird?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Didn't there a Macall bird?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
There's a Macall But cool, cool, there's a monkey called
macaque Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's not even true.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It is true. Jackass had a little macock con monkey
and he's like, this is my cock doing push ups
and all this stuff. Yeah, okay, Johnny Knoxville or somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Okay, I didn't watch a lot of Jackets.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I didn't watch. However, I did see the Macoq episode
with the monkey.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I just remember, don't feed Phil. This wasn't this was
the one guy. This is bayam Mar Jarrow what's his name?
And he had his dad was like really big and
so he made him shirts that said don't feed Phil,
and like nobody was allowed to feed him or whatever.
He did a show anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I didn't watch jack Ass.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, it wasn't Jackass. It was like another show.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm sure he spin off from Jackass.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, I'm sure. Anyway, back to the floot of the day.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Back to crazy story about this bird flying constantly in
the window until it actually does die. But because we're
saying it's a one and done, yeah, they fly in,
they kill themselves or their day.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Well, no, it gets worse because she's you know, I.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Know it gets worse. Okay, I was saying, I don't
believe that the bird kept flying it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
No, I don't either. I think they were had a
little too much to drink.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh yeah, I think Tracy was on something alcohol or
something that harder.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Allegedly money. She could be listening, she could give me something, Okay,
get on with it. People are getting frustrated.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Supposedly, the birds, the mocking birds kept coming back. And
a month later, No, but.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You miss skipped the part where they talked about Louie
said said he told everyone that it was a bad
omen and that it meant death, and he was worried
the birds were coming. He's like, I hope the birds
aren't coming after me, and he was joking about it. Supposedly, yeah,
but everybody else apparently took it very seriously.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well. Supposedly the birds dead too, because they kept coming
back month after month.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yes, no, not month, all month long, she said. Birds.
The birds kept doing this, like flying into the window
and killing themselves. Again. I don't believe this happened, but okay.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And then a month after the initial dinner, on Christmas,
Louis was dead from a heart attack. Tracy said. They
moved into the home the same night that his father does.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Now, if you're worried about bad omens, why would you
move into that creepy ass mansion the same night that
he died.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Why are you there with your bags ready to go?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You don't have it. Did they just push him out
of the master bedroom? And as soon as the ambulance
holed his body off, did they even change the sheets?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Tracy also claims that the house had bad energy and
may have been haunted. Yet again, why are you moving in?
Steve slowly turns into his father while he's in the house.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
This is Tracy telling this.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, Tracy telling us all this stuff. And he begins
drinking excessively, and he becomes obsessed with the birds outside.
He continued following in his father's footsteps, and he began
having affairs, and he didn't try to hide them from Tracy.
Tracy said she started he started to lose his mind,
stating that he was, in fact Louis being nuts.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Whenever he'd get really drunk, can cheat hold him and stuff,
he'd say, I'm Louis.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
She said it was something like out of the Shining
or Amityville horror.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Again, this is Tracy telling this week. We need some
outside sources to confirm.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
And then Tracy said the final straw came when he
lost his state Senate seat in two thousand and six
due to his behavior of drinking and carrying on. Tracy
also decided to finally leave Steve that same year. After
putting up with him for years.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, him him not being a that was the last thing.
She's like, you're not even a sinner anymore. I can't
even do well. It's probably embarrassing for her, you know,
because it was getting out around the town.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes. Yeah, the schmuck is cheating on me. I got money, bitch,
I got options. Yeah, I can, even though I'm a
crazy but.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
She and she's good looking too, so she could definitely.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I mean, I've let her talk about mocking birds, like, sure,
you got billions of dollars, you're pretty tell me about
all these mocking birds out in the window. I don't
get a ship.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
After his life is completely falling apart, Steve tried to
make a political comeback by crossing party lines and endorsing
Steve Basher for governor s because Steve and his dad
were Republicans and the state of Kentucky was slowly turning
towards Democrat and so he's like, this is my this
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is my chance.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
This is how I revived. Yeah, switch party support this dude.
He'll give me a cushy little assignment in his cabinet, yeah,
or his administration, and saved me from.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
This back in so Basher. He did win, and Steve
was on the upped up for a while. He's riding
this new high. He's not drinking anymore. He's pulling his
life together. And to top off his comeback, he runs
into Amanda Ross. Now he knew Amanda from her father,
who was actually a lobbyist for Steve, you know, at
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some point, and so he had met Amanda a couple
of years before. But Amanda at that time was married
the last time he saw her, and now she is not.
She had gotten divorced. Now he's excited about this because
she is pretty and she is about half his age.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm still going with the pretty billionaire.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But okay, yeah, so Steve is or she's and then
she also, on top of all this, is interested in Steve.
Now she does, I mean she's they're both kind of
when they met, they kind of had ulterior motives for
political reasons. I think anybody who's running for office or
in politics always has that kind of like how is
(30:45):
this going to help me make it? You know? Further up,
So Amanda, she's young, she's new in politics, she has
you know, family that's been in politics for decades. Steve,
he's seeing this like, Okay, this might be a good
move for me to have this young woman that's that's
up and coming. And then yeah, and then Amanda is
(31:08):
also looking at Steve. He's this well known last name.
He just got back this governor that one, like things
are looking up for him, and so I think they
both kind of saw it as an opportunity on top
of just like liking each other.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're reading a lot of shit in that.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'm not reading a lot of shit into it. That's
what they said.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
They said she was.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
From the Aphrodite Jones. She said that they're from she was.
Amanda was had like a political pedigree. She may not
have had as much money or as much clout as Steve,
but she was going down that path of politics. And
she's young and fresh and new and everything like that.
Plus she's half his age, so he's definitely gonna hop
on that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Why wouldn't he. So, as we were saying previously, Amanda
lands a lucrative job in the State Department of Insurance
for Kentucky. For Kentucky, it was a department head level
and it was very important.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, she's like a director.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, Yeah, she's up there in the admin up there
pretty high. Steve also got a boost in his political
career because Governor Bursher appointed him as Secretary of Health
and Family Services over the domestic abuse policy.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I did look up the Basher guy. He's no longer governor,
but his son's the governor.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So this is just family living off the name.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What the nuns wanted to do is now happening.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Things start to get even better for Steve and Amanda
when they become engaged on Amanda's twenty ninth birthday.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh Steve, Yeah, and he used old Steve's mother, Beulah's ring,
so it's probably a pretty good sized ring.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Probably a nice rock. But things began going downhill quickly
after that. Amanda was jealous and Steve was flirting, and
then he began drinking again and made things even worse.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, and I think she was a she liked drinking
as well, and so we got this this thing. She'd
get jealous, but then he'd make it worse because he
probably was flirting with people because that's what he did
to his ex wife, So she had reasons.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
She had her reasons, so we know Tracy was not lying.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Just six months later they call off the engagement and
Steve moved out, but they remained in contact. In February
of two thousand and nine, Amanda and Steve were at
her apartment and they were drinking. He wanted to leave,
but she argued with him, and supposedly she would not
let him leave, so they got into a physical altercation
(33:45):
and he ends up slapping her and throwing her up
against the wall, breaking the lamp in the process.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, two people drinking probably shouldn't be arguing, especially if
they got violent tempers. Police were called do the apartment
and it was noted that they both had marks, they
both had bruises. It appeared that they were both aggressors
in this fight. Amanda filed for an emergency protective order
against Steve, which is ironic, and this quickly got out
(34:14):
to the news. He was placed on administrative leave until
this was sorted out. Yes, you don't want to be
the director in charge of.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Family domestic abuse policy and now you've been accused of
domestic abuse, So yeah, it seemed I mean, I don't
want to say anything bad about the victim in this
or anything like that, but it did appear that she
he had cuts and things like on him. And then
she had bruises. So not saying what he did was okay,
but it did seem like maybe she was doing things
(34:44):
as well. It was just a bad situation in general. Now, Steve,
he's going out trying to save his career, and so
he starts claiming that Amanda was baiting him and wanted
to ruin his career and she was successful. Now do
I personally think maybe that she did the protective order
because it would run him? Yes, I do believe that, Okay,
(35:09):
because they from what I could tell, they only had
this one incident, so it wasn't like and like I said,
they both had. They both seemed to be into it
with each other and everything that. So do I think
that she probably was thinking, Okay, I'm really gonna get him.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Not saying he didn't deserve the protective order, I'm just
saying she knew, she knew it would probably it would
end him whenever she did this. Not saying anything he
did was right. I'm just saying that, Uh No.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
He sounds like a Skis bottle and we had a coming.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So yeah, So Steve begins drinking heavily again, of course,
of course, and he becomes more and more angry towards Amanda,
so he starts spiraling. At this point, he's just, you know,
the world's out to get me guy. He begins trying
to see how he could run her political career. So
he takes naked photos of her, and he begins showing
them around town, all the circles that she would be
(35:59):
pol Tians would be in and things like that. So
just a terrible human. Now on top of this, Amanda
began telling friends and co workers that Steve had started
to follow her or she would just see his car nearby.
He never I don't think he ever approached her, but
he was.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He was lurking, keeping tabs on her.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, because he's become upset. He before I think he was,
because I think before it was more of like normal
shithead behavior. And then now he's been he's now gone.
He's the scales have tipped and he's become psychopath.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's got a bottle of Scotch in the car drinking.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, he got nothing else to do. She's just over
there living in that mansion that his family was in,
his dad who hated him and didn't think he was
good enough and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
And should have bonaire x M yep.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So at this point she decides to buy that handgun
for her protection because she's just worried that he's going
to try to kill her. Now, at one point, she
did say that like one of the closest encounters that
she had with him was she left. This is from
a coworker saying that Amanda came back in and told
her this. She had left work to go to lunch.
She goes outside and she comes pretty not face to face,
(37:10):
but she turns the corner and it's just Steve just
staring her down or whatever. So she's scared, so she
runs back into the office and tells her coworker about this.
And this was just a few days before her murder.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
On September tenth, Steve went to the legislature's office, where
he had served for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
And I use that word right, legislature, Yes, okay, whether
it be House or Senate, the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Legislature, the legislature, well, his old coworkers colleagues, Yeah, what
you call.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
When I was taiying and I was like, it's not coworkers.
I guess they're kind of they're all employed by the taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yes, well, they all shunned him. They didn't want to
be seen with him. They didn't want the stink on them,
ruining their chances of re election later on down the road.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Not to mention, he probably's coming in freaking like hungover
or partially drunk, showing up at the damn.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Legislator dan Ackroyd from Trading Places where he's in the
Santa suit and he's pulling salmon out of a Santa suit.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know that reference, Stewart, We've.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Never watched Trading Places to no.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, so he's probably looking like disheveled and a mess. Anyway,
So maybe if he'd came in there, you know, buttoned
up and looking clean and everything like that, maybe they
would have talked to him. But they're definitely just get
out of here, guy, you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, that sounds exactly like Trading Places where dan Ackroyd
went back to the farm and all the co workers
shunned him. They're like, no, get out of here because
they framed him from embezzelin or something like that from
the company.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Well that's helped Steve felt.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
This sounds exactly like a scenes from Trading Place.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, I told you the ID channel. They're always coming
up with these things. You can't make the shit up
what they come up with.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And then same thing with Steve that dan Akroy did
the next day. He just went batshit crazy and Steve,
maybe they got.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
The idea for that over how old is that movie?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It's older than okay. He then drove to Well the
next day he ambushed a man. That's when he ambushed her,
was in shot her three times. He then drove to
his parents' graves, where he was found by police. He's
arrested and upon further examination, the Manila envelope that was
found in his car is labeled Psycho Bitch File compiled
(39:38):
on August seventh, two thousand and nine, where he wrote
his dissertation on why Amanda needed to die and what
she had done to him.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Psycho bitch file. That's also what my file.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was your nickname in high school, wasn't it. He
held her responsible for everything that had gone wrong in
his life, and I the law that he wrote in
nineteen ninety eight would make him eligible for the death penalty.
Now to avoid the death penalty, Steve pled guilty in
June of twenty eleven to intentional murder with aggravated circumstances
(40:16):
so that he could receive life without parole.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Now, the prosecutor on was on there being interviewed, and
he wanted to make sure it was clear that anytime
this happens, if someone wants to plead guilty of as
long as it's life without parole, they will accept it.
So he didn't get any special treatment because of his family,
which makes sense because no one gives a fuck about
(40:39):
his family. The dad's dead, he was a.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
All the way child.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Mom's dead.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, and he's a disgrace and nobody cares. He can't
do anything for them anymore anyways.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I he hanging, got no children.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, so a man is friends and family want her
to be known as the intelligent, caring and vivacious person
that she was, and so they wanted to make sure
that they did that she didn't die in vain and
that something good could come out of it. So they
worked really hard to pass a law in Amanda's honor.
And the law is called Amanda's Law in Kentucky and
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it allows for those with protective orders to put a
tracking device on their perpetrator. I don't know if it's
on the car or on the person. I would hope
it'd be on the person because they could run a boat. Yeah,
so I guess I don't. I didn't look into the
details about it, but I guess it allows them to
(41:33):
request to that that they have a tracking device, which
I think that's great, especially women that have stalkers and
stuff like that. They just need to know when when
they're showing up. All right, that is our case out
of Kentucky. Stu, do you have a y'all need Jesus?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I always do.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I am always ready.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Only fans model who filmed herself urinating on grocery store
food ew busted for hotel room peacepree EW, including on
a bibbyl. Maybe you have heard of them on a
bibyl a Bible?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Is it the what's the one.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That's awaking James version?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Well, no, there's also I feel like the Mormon Bible
is always.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
In there too, unless they started putting some in there.
I know nothing. I haven't checked my hotel room because.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
You got a no, Stuart, we just started we started
back on hotels. We I think we even explain this,
all right, Maybe I explained it in a video on Instagram.
I don't know how we've switched back to hotels because
the Airbnb fees are outrageous.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
And now I don't actually claim.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, they make you pay like a two hundred do
I swear it's like, and we don't stay at big
Airbnb's like we're our goal is to try to just
get at least one bedroom for our price range, just
because the kids we can close the door and then
we can still be out in the front room. So
even though there's we're a family of five, we're cramming
into a one bedroom and hoping and then sometime times
(43:00):
it's saying even one bedroom. Sometimes it's like and then
it's always like one hundred and fifty to two hundred
dollars cleaning fee. And then as you're living there, you're like,
they didn't pay nobody to come clean this. They came
and took some little cloths and wipe down themselves. They
didn't clean under anything. To me, if you pay two
hundred dollars for that size at home, that's a professional
(43:20):
cleaning fee. Yes, that's that's only they need to pay
someone who's.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Because we find out when the kid's toy rolls under
the couch. When I left that man, they were like cheese. Yeah,
did we get cream cheese? No, that's not our under
the couch. Yeah, well dust.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Anyways, we did have been switched back to hotels, although
it sounds like from.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
This ironically enough, when we went to Corpus Christy, we
did go to the Lexington.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
What does that have to do with anything, because this
was at a.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Oh, that's where this case just was Jesus christ.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I just said that.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Oh I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Listening to you. You said, that's where we just covered
this case.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I said, ironically enough, When we went to Corpus Christie,
we went to the Lexington because we stayed at that
hotel in Corpus Christi okay, And we went to the Lexington.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Oh, this case or that case that you're reading that
y'all need Jesus. No, oh, I thought you meant that
y'all need Jesus was out of Lexington. And that's when
I was like, oh, that's crazy. Oh my god. If
I can hear the reviews writing itself right.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Now, if anybody's listening this long, this is their this
is their.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Fault, I can just hear the reviews.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Anybody that's gotten this far and is hearing this, it's
their own fault. Now. They should have punched out the
first five minutes of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
When I went on that Spotify rant.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, when you went on the Spotify rent, they should.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Have left them all right, go on about this lady.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's Florida or not Florida, not Florida. Okay, you're correct.
I think we this lady already because she was peeing
on groceries. Either that or I just read the story
and I thought it would be good. Y'all need Jesus?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Well, yeah, because you asked me that. I don't remember,
but maybe someone else does.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Coming to us from the New York Post by Emily Crane,
published April seventeenth, twenty twenty five. So this is fresh pea.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well, so then we haven't covered this one.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We have what episs her get it?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Okay, how we have covered? If it's from April seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
A New Hampshire Only fans model who allegedly filmed herself
urinating on grocery store food has been busted over a
peace bree in a hotel room, including on a Bible cups. Yeah,
she was the one that was peeing on the grocery
store food for content or something. Oh maybe, so she's
already been busted for pe and on grocery store food.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Do the rut and this domestic violence thing. If you
get peeing on death penalty.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I think we said that one. I think we did
cover because you said that she needed the death penalty.
Kelly Dford twenty four, was hit with fresh charges this
week for allegedly urinating all over a room at a
Marriott hotel. Write this down in Keene back in January
court documents Shell. Okay, so if we ever go to Keene, New.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Hampshire, because we're Marriot people.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, we're Marriot people. I don't know this one.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Well, I don't know. We're not Marriot people. Were residents
in Fairfield.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, occasionally a courtyard.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
We're in the family.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yes, we're not in like Marriods.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
No. Tedford, who goes by Kinki Kelly on only Fans,
is accused of recording herself peeing on an air conditioner unit, comforter,
curtains and the Bible inside the room. The document's charge.
She is also allegedly defecated on the floor, be hiding
(46:53):
before hiding her feces in the tank of the toilet,
which is called an upper decker if heard.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I've never heard of this store.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Were you poop in the tank?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh, she's not even cute.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
So that whenever they flush.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
It, stud to show me a picture of her.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
The poop comes into the bowl.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I didn't know that. No, what is wrong with you?
Why do you know that?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Because you go to your friend's house and you just know.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
You do not go to your friend's house. You do
not do that.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
No, you go to a friend's house that's not really
your friend, and you're like, hey, no.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
You need to just stop talking or I'm going to
suggest the death penalty for you.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Ah. The alleged purp was hit with five criminal mischief
charges over the sickening ordeal. The filings obtained by The
Smoking Gun show the gross saga allegedly unfolded just weeks
before she was arrested for spraying a slew of products
at the Monaded Knock Food co Op, which is located
(47:52):
in Keene with her urine. Yeah, she was peeing on
the stuff at the grocery store. Then she went to
this hotel room did the same thing film content.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, but house watching this, Okay, But.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Then she got busted for the grocery store, which was
like fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars worth of shit, and
then they found out about this hotel room.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Okay, Well, she's probably making a shit ton of money.
That's why she's willing to risk this to go do
the upper deck or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Her alleged display costs the grocery store roughly fifteen hundred
dollars for ruin products and cleaning expenses. Yeah, because that's
the one.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Well, you can't go to that pr you can't you
can't undo that, you can't put that toothpaste back of
the tube for the public. That Now that's known as
the grocery store, the co op that has pea all
over it, like there's no.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
A local store first forced to issue or recall for
organic quenoa corn.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Meal, I mean technically it was still organic.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Coconut shreads and raw walnuts. Hedford allegedly relieved herself on
the products.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
And she's peeing on stuff that soaks up things too. Yes,
it's not like she's peeing on an orange where it's
just going to roll off. She's peeing on things that
like pastas and quenewaws and coconut shreds that are going
to soak up the the urine. Yes, death penalty.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Cop said. The grocery store footage was among a trove
of online videos they uncover that documented a similar disgusting
acts dating back to at least twenty twenty one. At
this time, it appears likely that similar historic incidents Occurrerding
Keen and surrounding communities. Were Tetford contaminated items and or
(49:36):
surfaces with her urine. She was slapped with a criminal
mischief charge over the grocery store ordeal and is due
to be arraignged on all other charges on May eighth.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
They need to throw her in prison for a long time,
for life, all right, Well thanks for with no bathroom.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yes she just a pee on her own, sleep in it, yes, sleeping?
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh try her, no, put her in prison. Have her
pull that shit in prison and see how long she
lasts peeing on people's stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah not jel prison.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah all right, well that is our case in our
y'all need Jesus for the week. We are going on
a cruise.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
What why do you keep telling people we're living our house.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
We're not leaving our house. What do you, Stuart, Nobody
listens to this.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Okay, there's tens of listeners out there listening to this
right now.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Well, if they're listening right now when they heard this part,
then they're not in it to rob us. Okay, nobody's
staying there on this long at the intent to rob us. Nobody.
In fact, nobody's probably listening at this point is probably
just even the tens of listeners we had, they already stopped. Yeah, anyways,
(50:52):
so we will see if we have an episode next week.
We're going to try to record one to have put out,
but that may not happen because you know, Careen where
us No Stewart sucks and needs to start writing cases.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
No, I did write Casey, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Like what the okay, Well maybe you try again. Maybe
you try again, and we'll see how you do.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Okay, and then what happens after I spend all the
time and you're like, nope, main.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
We'll record and put it on the Patreon.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
So you don't want people to come to the Patreon.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Anyways? All right, I guess we will. Yeah. Check out
rate review, subscribe, Instagram, Facebook, check the show notes, join
the Patreon for ad free in early access, and possibly
Stew's unwritten case. The rest is still unwritten.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I don't know what that is, but don't ever do
that again.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
That's Natasha betting Field.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
That's the that's the theme song to the Hills.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I thought that was Brooks.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Oh my god. Anyways, all right, well we will see
you guys next time. Buy Everyone say.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
It it's bad to be superstitious.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Find nothing else. It's working, and my hands bringing and
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Burning, and sick of all, it's worrying Buck
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