138. [Texas] Olivia Jones

Olivia meets Chris thinking he is the man of her dreams, but his controlling ways quickly surface and eventually lead to a fatal situation.

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey everyone, welcome to bless this Mess on the True
Crump podcast. I'm care here's do say Heystu, Hi, all right,
we're back this week and we are going to Texas. Yes, Texas.
We are back from our cruise. Remind me, everybody, next
time I say I'm going to book a cruise, say Kara,
you stop. You stop that now, you stop that nonsense.

(00:43):
So them cruises are not for you because I said
this last time, yet I did it. Anyways, I'm not
counting the Disney cruise because the Disney cruise was just
for the children to meet the mouse, you know. But
next time, I'm just booking a cruise just for vacation.
You say, no, no, no, Kara, no no, no no. You and

(01:04):
people are not a good mix. Yes, I looked at
it that we were walking like everything that has lots
of people just slowly becomes my worst nightmare. At the
buffet looking out into the pools and there's like fifty
people in this small pool, and I'm thinking, God, if
my only options were to swim in that or never

(01:26):
swim again, I'm choosing never swimming. Like I'm it's disgusting.
And then I see, I'll see like ten people in
a hot tub.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Dish.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yes, they're always worried about the kids and everything like that.
I'm like, no, all these people are drinking and are
not leaving this pool. Where do you think they get
the pee in pool?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
So in the ool?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, So it's just not for me. People are just disgusting.
And so then I start observing people and then I
start seeing how disgusting they are, and then I just
become grossed out and like I don't want to leave
the room. I don't want to do anything. So yeah,
next time in a book, a cruise, it's a big note.
It's a big note for me. I did get to

(02:10):
see Papa Bear though, Oh yes, I mean so I
joined always joined the Facebook cruise group or whatever, and
there's this guy that was in artist and he was
Papa Bear and he was like Papa Bear, the man,
the myth, the legend, and so he was always posting
the group and he was like posted when leading up

(02:31):
to going on the cruise, and so you're supposed to
come asking for a bear and he'll give you like
a little bear, makes you reach in his pocket and
get the bear knock.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Only to find out there's a hole in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm kidding. I don't know if that's I never I
did not go ask him for a bear, because I'm
one of these people that I become obsessed with something
like something. But I'm not actually gonna go interact. I'm
just gonna watch from a distance, you know. And so anyway,
so Papa Bear, he's posting this cruise group. I mean,
I wish I had the confidence of Papa Bear. Stu

(03:05):
he posted his pre cruise meal. He he he posted
his hotel room, and you thought he the way he
was posting and taking pictures, you thought he was staying
at the Ritz Carlton or something. He was at like
a holiday in Express taking pictures. He had his leg
up on the coffee table in the hotel room taking
a picture. Anyway, So then I told you, I was like,

(03:27):
we gotta watch out for Papa Bear. I was like,
but we're not gonna interact, We're just gonna I just
want to see him. And so Stu actually saw him
first because I talked about him so much, but I
did finally I finally saw him in person, and so
I was like, slightly like taking videos, good creepy.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I can't believe you're telling other people I know podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes, if you know Papa Bear, please do not tell
him about this because I do not want to actually
interact with him. I just wanted to observe him from
a distance, like.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
In the world, like national geographics.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes, this is a national geographic situation for me. So anyways,
but we had the kids had fun. I mean, it's
not that I had to have a bad time on it,
it's just it's just not for me. With the amount
of people. I don't like that many people crowded it up.
So anyway, so that's our cruise story for this week.

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Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, you can complain about the ads. The thing about yeah,
that has nothing personally to do with us. No one
called me wheezy or a bitch, or or that I'm
just like browbeating you or rude or whatever else. All
the things that were wrong with me there for a while.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
There's a lot of things wrong with you.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, starting with who I'm married? Wow, all right, so
let's go ahead and get into this week's episode out
of Texas.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Hey, hihs.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, and I watched an episode of Married to Evil?
Those are those don't play those?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Are? They?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Kind of? Yeah? And they really suck you in with
It's like a slow build up, you know, and everything.
So I highly recommend that series.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Olivia Jones was one of five children growing up in Texas.
She was the oldest. She was very caring, and she
was described as beautiful both inside and out. Her nickname
was Fabulous Olivia Fabulous because she would have like, you know,
like the cute swimsuit, you know, imagine the picture on
a lounge chair with your you know, your stylish sunglasses

(07:20):
and your cute swimsuit and a little cocktail in your hand,
everything and just looking fabulous. So she was that. She
was always had her nails done, always put together and
everything like that. So that was her nickname was Fabulous Olivia.
Now she was the quintessential big sister. She even had
her so her brother who was the next in line

(07:42):
in the children, whenever it was time for him to
move out, she even had him move in with her,
helped him fill out job applications, like took him under
a wing, just kind of show him the ways of
the world, you know. And so she was just that
kind of big sister, always looking out for And now
that we have children, I see how that happened because,
like you know, they always joke about the oldest or whatever,

(08:04):
not the oldest in in my for me and my siblings.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
That didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Listen, listen, Okay, we're not going to get into my family.
But that's a lot of muskogie trash going on with that.
If we if still always is always in shock about
the things I tell him. It's like, why didn't you
tell me this before I married you? All right, So

(08:34):
but I see how it happens because our daughters like that.
We it's it just happens because they're the you know,
they got the younger siblings, and so they always get
asked like Hey, watch out for your brother, hold your
brother's hand, watch out for sissy, you know, and stuff
like that, and we sometimes I feel bad I'm having
to do that, but it's also just kind of like life.
You know, it's just being part of a family.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know, that's what you do.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ye look out for each other. And then one day
he's gonna be like taller than her and bigger than her,
and he can, you know, watch out for her too.
They're only eighteen months apart, so they're going to be
or hate each other either way. Yep. So anyway, so
she's Olivia's was described as having like a business mindset,

(09:19):
and she would be agin working like a little tax business,
and it actually would become pretty successful. She was always
she was always a hard worker. So she married her
high school sweetheart and in nineteen ninety nine they started
their family. She had her first daughter, Ariel, and then
several years later they had a second daughter named Yaliah now.

(09:42):
But soon after that second child was born, her marriage
began to fall apart and that would end in divorce.
She was very upset about this divorce because you know,
it's high school sweetheart. They've been together, I think close
to ten or eleven years, like married and everything, and
you know, it's just not the way that her she
thought her life would go. Now she's thirty, she's in

(10:06):
her thirties, having to start over and everything like that.
But her daughter said that their childhood was really great,
even though you know, going through the divorce and everything.
She would always take the girls camping and go to
water parks and just having a really good time. And
she was just a really good mom, always doing these
things with them. Now, her family, even though you know,

(10:27):
she just goten divorced and everything like that, her family
really encouraged her to start dating and trying to find someone.
And because she's still I mean, she was thirty eight, young,
good looking and everything that had a lot of life
ahead of her. Her daughter, I think was her youngest daughter,
was only one or so around that time. So why
Olivia is living in Beaumont, Texas. She has her family

(10:50):
and everyone around her. But she, you know, she starts
dating and in the spring of two thousand and nine,
she meets Christopher Jones and they hit it off and
they start dating each other.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So it's usually what happens.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I know, I don't know why I said it I
don't know why. I feel like I've said the word
dating too much, so then I started to think about
what I was saying, and then then there was no
other word to say. Courting each other, drink, courting each other.
I don't know anyway, So Chris seemed like a good
fit for Olivia. He had a stable job, which was

(11:27):
great because again, remember she's a hard worker, she's starting
her own business, she's on her way. He has a
job as a Texas State prison guard. So Olivia's family
finds out about Chris, and they were excited about him.
You know, just Rob the Batch, you're assuming Texas State
prison guard, good guy, protective. You know, you would just

(11:48):
think they would be a good person or whatever. I mean,
I don't know. I don't know how people no to
compare that to, but I always see like on locked
up and stuff, I'm like, how these people become I mean, like,
I don't know how they do it because the pay isn't,
you know, exceptional, I don't think. But it's such hard work.

(12:11):
I mean, I would think you'd have it's it's almost
it's you almost have like to have a want to
help people, you know, or things like that. I mean,
even though they're prisoners, that just.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Wants to punish them.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, yeah, and that's maybe where we're headed with this one.
Olivia's family would finally get to meet Chris because she
brought him to one of their family Sunday football get togethers.
And this was something they did every single Sunday after church.
They would all meet up at one of their houses
and they would watch football all day, like it would

(12:44):
go tell ten pm at night, you know, because there's
fifty million games. Yes, Monday noon Sunday night football. Ye,
what's the Espen game ESPN?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yes, I think that's Monday nights now.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh oh they get a special game just on ESPN
and no place else, Yes, they did, so. Yeah, so
he goes to this there. You know, it's just a
really good family event they have. They eat tons of
food and everyone brings something. I mean, it sounds like
a good time.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
The family was not sure of what to make of
Chris after meeting him in person. Again, they had a
good impression just from hearing about him, but once they
met him, he just kind of did some weird things.
And one of the things that stuck out to them
was when he was offered food by Olivia's mom. He
told Olivia that she could go fix him a plate

(13:39):
instead of just you know, getting up and making himself
or saying, oh yeah, where's the food or whatever. I mean,
cause it was a self serve situation. I mean, you're
at a family buffet type thing, so you just turn
turn into your girlfriend and you say, why don't you
get on up and fix me a plate? And so
some of the family members are like, eh, I don't

(13:59):
want care about it, but maybe he's just kind of
old fashioned or nervous or something like that and everything.
What's do do you not see a problem with this?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Why don't you get it and fix me a Why
don't you go fuck yourself?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And that would have been the appropriate response. Now, like
I said, it wasn't too crazy request. So they didn't
make a big ordeal about it or anything like that.
Didn't didn't bring it to Olivia's attention or anything. I mean,
it wasn't that that out there. But Ariel, the daughter,
she did, she's the oldest daughter, and she just didn't
like Chris from the very start. She said he just

(14:34):
seemed off to her and very irrogant.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Did not like him. Yeah, according to her, So, yeah,
she wasn't gonna be like hell dad, none of that.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, she didn't. Well he I mean, as we tell
the story, it's very clear he's not a good person.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
And that Ariel has some radar on going on. Yeah,
she can detect shitty people.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, I mean you're not going to be able to
I mean kids can I feel like kids and like
was it kids? And dogs can like know when somebody's
that's what they say, that's what they say, Stu.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
A while, these kids get in the bands with the candy,
well not all.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I mean sometimes they're tooty.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We don't know a butterfly.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Tooty's our son, that's what we call him. Can you
call him tooty? He's a tuty.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, soon after they start dating, the red flags really
start flying and it's not a circus.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
As Stu said, you said that, you said that last episode.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
So yes, I thought it was like episodes.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I said, there was there was a there was lots
of red flags and you're like yeah, and they he
thought it was a circus. And then I said, red
flags just look like flags when you got your rose
colored glasses on. And I thought that was very profound
for me.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
To say that that was last episode.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Uh, yes, I believe, So you're.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Gonna have to go back check. You know, the Apple
podcast actually has transcripts. Now they transcribe your entire podcast.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I know they shouldn't do that. They shouldn't. Plus due
to our I would. I don't think I have an accent,
but apparently you know TikTok and Apple and Instagram because
they sometimes they can't understand a word I'm saying. When
I try to do the captions, I have to go
through and fix those things, and then I get frustrated

(16:29):
and just turn them off because I try to do
captions because not everybody listen. Like when you're scrolling on
Instagram or TikTok, you may not be able to have
the volume up so you want to, but I like
to be able to read the captions. Plus, I've just
turned into a caption. I'm at that age where I
need a caption on the TV. Like, once you go captions,
you can't go back to.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Is this true?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, I've turned them captions on the TV one time
like this, there is no other way to live, no
other way.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I have not turned them on since we got our
new service provider oh you haven't.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Well, I haven't been watching the TV, though I watched.
I watched all my stuff on Peacock and Discovery like
my sister wives, but those all have captions.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Can we continue, Yeah, we can continue.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
You're just awkwardly pausing.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm not pausing, You're just rambling.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I was just talking about caption, Stewart.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I know what you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Here's your caption.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh damn. That was the middle finger for those of
you can't antsy, which is all of you.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Okay, back to our story. Olivia and Chris are out
on a date. Some of Olivia's family members were at
the same restaurant slash bar at the time, which was.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Her brother and sister in law and her brother. Yeah,
her sister in law's name is Brittany.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now, Olivia and Chris went to the restaurant, ran into
a woman that Chris used to date. This woman, she
got together with two other friends of hers, and they
actually attacked Olivia. They just jumped her in the damn bar.
According to Brittany, Chris saw what was happening, he did
not intervene. In fact, he started laughing as they took

(18:19):
the one girl took off her shoe and started beating
Olivia with her shoe. Yeah, like, who does that? The
police were called.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
But I need some clear They didn't really clarify the story.
But I'm where's the brother, where's the sister in law?
Where's the family? I don't but maybe they were more
involved in it than she made it, you know, seem
I don't.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know. It seemed like the sister in law
kind of glossed over a lot of the stuff, like,
we don't want to get involved in Olivia's shit, so
we were like here watching this go down. Yeah, oh man,
that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, but maybe she just for time's sake, they just
edited out, but.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I would hope. So, yeah, the police were called. Anne
Olivia's family members took her to the call to calm
her down and help her with her wounds because she
was actually bleeding because they gave her an ass whooping.
Olivia's family encouraged her to press charges, but Chris asked
her not to press charges due to him working at
the prison, he didn't want no spotlights on him. Olivia

(19:16):
ultimately did what Chris wanted, which she should have broke
up with his ass right then and there another incident
the family witness happened was at a park. Olivia was
there with her two girls, her brother, his wife, Brittany,
and their kids. Olivia's phone kept ringing and ringing and ringing.

(19:37):
It was like ringing back to back to back to
back to back. Her brother noticed this, he thought it
was odd, didn't mention it, and as Olivia was about
to leave and had gotten into her car with her children,
when a red pickup came flying into the parking lot.
Chris hops out and he starts pounding on Olivia's window.
Her brother ran over there to stop him, but Brittany

(20:01):
was holding him back, and she threatened Chris that she
was going to call nine to one one. Chris, hearing
this stop beating on the window, jumped back in his
truck and then he sped off. Olivia refused to speak
about the incident, and she just shut down Withdrew from
the family. She didn't talk to him.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, she's probably embarrassed, yes, because any normal person that
next time someone like, why are you still with this person?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, that's why she didn't talk to him for a year.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, So she completely just Withdrew and probably out of
embarrassment and shame that she was keeping this guy around
when he was clearly off his rocker. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Meanwhile, Olivia and Chris told her daughters that they were
going to go to counseling and that this type of
behavior would never happen again. Unfortunately, it seemed that Olivia
was in love, so deep in love that she was
pushing her family away to be she thought.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
She was in love. I mean, you're not this guy.
This isn't She's mistaking control for love, and that's what
the sister in law said as well. She was for
some reason she saw him controlling her as him loving her,
and then she's reciprocating. You know, I don't know why

(21:22):
she stayed with him whenever. It was early on and
you know, right to get out.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But the family members that did not witness as Chris
as what the hell did I just say, that did
not witness Chris's behavior, thought he was just a nice guy,
and in July twenty fourteen, they were excited when he
proposed to Olivia.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Which I'm assuming he's like every other abusive person. He
has these outburst and then he's super charming, super I'm
so sorry, you know, charms the mom charms the rest
of the family. So then whenever the brother and sister
like this guy's nuts, they're like, oh, oh, Chris, he's

(22:05):
just quirky. He's just got that. He went to counseling.
He's fine, he's getting his anger under control. He's fine.
You know, It's just one of those things. That's what
they do. So I'm sure he was very charismatic around
them whenever he was not, you know, trying to break
windows in.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah. But anyway, so brother and sister in law still
don't like him.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, she found out shut Yeah, well she they found
out on like Facebook or something that they were engaged.
So it wasn't it wasn't like she was you know. Still,
I don't think that they were super close at that time.
So she finds out, But I mean, what what are
you going to do if it's been years and you're
just I mean, what are you going to do? You know,
if someone's dead, said on being with this person, and

(22:53):
I'm not Stu thinks I'm victim blake. He said, I'm
not saying that. I'm just saying that she was under
his spell of that. I mean, there's millions of people
that are in abusive relationships, and they say the same thing.
I've never been in one, so I don't know, Stuart,

(23:14):
you were shut up, So I've never been in one,
so I don't know. But they say it's very difficult
to get out of them, and they do the whole thing.
They play mind tricks on you. They're horrible to you,
and then they're super nice to you. And so it
sounds like, and I don't know, maybe he kept under
wraps for a long time, you know, and then he

(23:34):
seemed like a good guy and it wasn't entime for
they got engaged and married that he really was able
to be his true self, this true evil self.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Who the evil that I marry?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, married to evil? Still, yeah, the show. So after
the engagement, Olivia and her daughters moved into Chris's house
and Chris again, this is not a good sign, But
Chris started running that home like he did the prison.
Everything had to be perfect. Ariel said, she said, you
had to make your bed. It couldn't have any wrinkles.

(24:05):
Stew's like, I don't see.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
What the problem. It sounds like boot camp, sounds like
Friday room inspection.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
So yeah, so no dishes, you know, in the sink
at night, which I can get on board with that,
but not the way he was doing it. I'm pretty
sure it was in a controlling manner. I mean, some
nights we go to bed with dishes in the sink,
but it's we try not to, just because who wants
to wake up to dirty dishes in the seink morning? Anyways,
but he would. You'd have to clean all the floors

(24:32):
at night, he wanted. If they weren't in their rooms,
the doors had to be opened so he could walk
by and see that everything was firsting. I mean, it
is like prison, you know, you have to have your
door open. He wants to see. Yeah, so it was
just a really bad situation for the girls living there.
They didn't like it. And then Chris even began punishing

(24:53):
the girls, even whipping them with a belt if he
felt that they were disrespectful to him or their mom.
And again this is for some people. It is normal
to corporal punishment, depending on how you grew up. Like
I'm trying to think I was never whipped, but I'm
pretty sure my older brother was. It was he was

(25:17):
always the one in trouble and everything like that. So
but yeah, so it might have been normal, so she
may she maybe she didn't think anything of it or
anything like that. And he's going to be their stepfather
and stuff. So so this all these things were happening,
the girls were miserable living there, and then Olivia's life
took a big hit when her mom passed away in

(25:37):
January of twenty fifteen. Now, her and her mom were
very close. They talked on the phone, you know, every morning.
So at this point though, it was a positive because
she did turn to her sister in law after her death,
where you know, for comfort and just to talk to her.
Because Ariel said that Chris pretended like he cared. She
could tell he just didn't care about that her mom died.

(25:59):
It was just no, he didn't even go No.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
He just okay, yeah, I'm not going to the wake,
not going to the funeral. I don't even know if
he showed up to the funeral, but he definitely didn't
go to the wake er any of the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, because I think at that point that it was
kind of confusing. But I think at that eventually the
family started you know getting you know, he's trying to
isolate her more and more from her family, so that
she he's all she has, and so I think the
family did start seeing him for who he was. So
he probably didn't like the mom because she might have
been saying, you need to get out of this and

(26:32):
everything like that. So anyway, so she's confiding in her
in Brittany and at this point that's when she tells
her that they had cameras all throughout their house, and
Brittany's in shock. The sister in law is like, what
what do you mean cameras? I mean inside the home. Yes,

(26:53):
and this is twenty fifteen too, so I feel like
cameras weren't as big even on outside the house at
that time. That was ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Wow, I mean, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, but I think I feel like ring just started
and everything like that. It wasn't. Now you go to
every single house, like will you go buy a house
and there's cameras everywhere, there's camera everybody has cameras on
their house. But I feel like twenty fifteen, even some houses,
a lot of houses didn't have cameras installed at that point.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
No, I mean, but we still get that we still had.
You could get the ones, I.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Know that, but you would have to know how to
install them and everything or pay at that point, you
would most likely have to pay somewhere to install, oh
for inside the home. Well I know that, but we
wouldn't have them.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't think he had them mounted.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yes, he had them mounted in the home. They were
in the corners of the of the home, like in
the like cameras mounted, like security cameras at a building
like he was the print like it was the prisons.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
They also had like some some wireless ones that you
charged and everything too.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
So what does that matter what kind they were.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm just saying the technology was up to date.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So okay, well whatever that was, this is so stupid.
I don't know why you care.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
What money as it were because you act like somebody
had to come run wires through the house and all
that other mess.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well no, but I'm saying. What I'm saying is that
to have the cameras in the home in twenty fifteen
is shocking because not everybody even had them on the
outside their home, so it to have them inside your
home is really shocking. Does that all make sense.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
To not if you're control right?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Okay, Well Stuart, yes, obviously for him it made sense.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, I had to go work on some guys cameras
at his house. He had them old style black and
white ones, and I think him and his girlfriend were
just in there shooting up heair when he won like
some kind of lawsuit or something. And this house was
real creepy when you got there. There was cameras outside
and alarm systems and they were just sitting inside in
the dark, just kind of looking like they were tweaking out.
But he had money for cameras. Though when what year

(28:53):
was this, I don't know, twenty ten maybe.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh well, I'm glad I pulled you out of that
situation I'm being in the heroine house. Yes, well, you've
told me some stories about going in and installing things
and people. He still used to install security cameras before
his previous gig, before becoming a stay at home mom.
But yes, so, yeah, so he used to tell me

(29:19):
some stories about like you go up and roach infested
homes and m m, just nasty things and like people
doing crazy. I remember that one lady that was going
to leave you in the home by herself with her children. Yeah,
and you were like, no, I'm no.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Under like a sixteen year old kid or fourteen I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, I'm like no, yeah, I mean what what parents like, Yeah,
it's fine. You can just hear a strange man coming
to my own and I'm just going to leave in
The fourteen year old will be, you know, here to
to make sure as the as the person in the home.
It's like, no, what's wrong with parents anyway? So always

(29:59):
so it's about the cameras and everything, and he's got
him in the house and she's just appalled by this,
and so Ariels started talking to her Anne about him,
because she's you know, she's like, hey, tell me about
these cameras you got in your house. Well, she said
that Chris would watch them while he was at the prison,
and the cameras actually had microphones, so he could talk
to them whenever he wanted, and then they would have

(30:21):
to talk back to him. They would have to communicate
through the cameras. There was absolutely no privacy in the home.
I don't think he had him in the bedroom because
that would be illegal.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
So they didn't have him in the bedrooms or the bathrooms.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, so, but everywhere else was fair game. He could
watch you come and go and hear every single thing
that you said. And because the reason. Uh, because that
was part of the reason that she found out about
the cameras is because whenever she was on the phone
with Brittany, she said, I got to be quiet because
I don't want the cameras to pick it up. And
then that's when it got into the whole camera situation

(30:54):
because she couldn't even have a conversation with a family
member in private because of how he had the house set.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, it would be recorded.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Ariel continue to witness abuse.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
There's tensions behind the microphone. Guys per huge, per per
huge mail. Again always classic Kara.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Classic Carara. Ariel continued to witness the abuse in the home.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yes, because at the serenest time, there was abuse happening,
but of course it wasn't shared with the other family.
I think there was a lot of being cut a
lot of communication which is cut off, you know, even
for the even for the nieces or you know, to
the daughters.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yea, the daughters talking to their aunts and uncles. But
also I found like there seemed to be like the
family members during this episode this that didn't seem forthcoming
with with what they actually knew, possibly and why they
didn't intervene.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Or things well, no, but I think at some point
the people, I mean, this happens all the time. At
some point you're just like, I don't know what else
to do. I can't call the cops on him because
he's not doing anything in front of me. You know,
if she's not gonna do anything about the situation, I
don't know what else to do. I mean, that's thought.
That's what I felt from him. They had just they

(32:18):
didn't know what else to do. I mean, she's over
here living her life. She's not gonna call the police
on They can't. They can't just barge in there and
be like we're taking you because she's just gonna go
right back to him and probably make him angry in
the process, and that it's gonna be even worse for her.
I mean, there's just like not a win and tell
the person that's in the situation it's gonna has had enough. Yeah,
then there's not much the family members can do unless

(32:40):
they witness and even if they witness it, then then
the person has to press charges, you know, they have
to agree to p Yeah, and then a lot of
times that doesn't happen, or if they start to, then
they drop them because the guy's sweet talks him back
into it. So it's just in a bad situation. I
just felt like the family didn't know what to do
with it. They I mean, they just didn't know what
to do. I don't think they also knew how bad

(33:00):
it was, though. You don't think no, because at the
end they said they didn't realize that this was all
going on inside the home. They knew about the cameras
and things of that, but they didn't know the level
of how he was treating her inside the home. Spoiler alert,
spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Anyway, so Olivia are Ariel's witness on all this, and
she didn't she knew that her mother was not going
to leave Chris. Olivia had told Ariel that she would
leave whenever she had had enough, but Ariel never thought
that day would come, because it didn't seem how no

(33:39):
matter how bad it got, Olivia just would make an
excuse or dismiss it or not even talk about it.
Olivia went through with the wedding and Chris controlled the
guest list, and at that point most of Olivia's siblings
were disinvited, with the exception of the brother and the

(33:59):
sister law that were at the park that or in
this episode.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, And I don't know if they were just maybe
they weren't pushing her about leaving him, and that's why,
because maybe they thought it was better just be some
part of her life in this, you know, because if
they just maybe the other siblings were like, you guys
need to leave, and then she he pushed them out
and everything. But maybe the brother and the sister in
law were saying, you know what, some relationship is better

(34:24):
than them none. So we're just gonna try to be
a part of her life in whatever way we can
that will make that will allow us to be close
to her.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
And the other three were pushed out of the Yeah,
out of the circle of trust. Yes, And even though
this was a happy day it to Olivia's daughters and
the siblings that were pushed out, this seeming like it
was kind of a crazy situation.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, because Olivia was super excited about this, like she
was having a blast. It was like she was marrying,
you know, the best guy ever. And the family's just
like this, this is crazy, are we are we all
just we're all just going to pretend that this is great.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
We're just going to pretend that this is yeah, shit
that's happening is not happening.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And a lot of what we're saying is speculation just
from the with the fan. But I can just assume
that it's probably difficult for them to confront her about
these things if she's so blinded by.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, it's like she's not wanting to hear it. She's like, oh, yeah,
I know, but it's not that bad. Yeah, as what
we theorize is going on. Chris continued the controlling and
threatening behavior at home and while he was at work
he was able to just do it over the phone.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Well. No, he was also a no at work, he's starting.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yes, And at work he was also being abusive to
the inmates and he was actually placed on administrative leave
after beating one inmates so bad that he had to
go to the infirmary and then I think actually to
the hospital.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yes, And he actually had the video recording and he
brought it home and showed a real the daughter and
she's like, showed, she showed, He showed her the video
of him beating this man to like a pulp and everything,
And I'm assuming it was probably to show her what
he's capable of. Yes, if she doesn't she crosses him. Yeah. Yeah,

(36:17):
because the girls were young too. I mean they're they're kids,
Like one was a little girl and then this one's
a teenager. I mean, she's probably terrified of this guy
and just doesn't even know, just walking.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
On eggshells around there got cameras guys of Psycho. But
even though Chris was put on administrative leave, guessing it
was unpaid or it might have been paid, they were
not struggling with money because Olivia government.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
He probably got paid during this time quite possibly.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well, I mean they actually do until they can prove
that you don't deserve a paycheck. But Olivia had been
a hard worker. She had built up her tax service company,
and she was making some pretty good money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I think they said she was making three times as
much as him. Yeah, so she's probably she's making six figures.
I'm assuming with this.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And then Chris came up with the idea to start
a food truck. So Olivia took her tax money that
she was making and she poured that into this new business.
Olivia did all the work on the food truck, and
but she made it look like Chris was doing all that.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
She's trying to make him look good. She's been a
lot of time trying to make him present him as
a good person, as a hard worker, when really she
was the one prepping all the did all the planning everything,
and then he just kind of showed up.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, she pumped all the money into this thing, got
it up running, did all the planning, all the supplies,
and then whenever they rolled the food truck, he would
do the cooking, and then that's his contribution. The food
truck was a success, and Chris was working on that
while he was on administrative leave. Ariel had finally graduated

(37:57):
from high school and she was about to head off
to college. But she was worried about her mom and
her younger sister, as you would imagine, but she was.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Just really thankful just to get out of the house. Though, yes,
I feel she's worried, but she's she's ready for to
not be there in that environment.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Now. Ariel's biggest fears came to fruition. On February fourteenth,
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yes, I know, I wrote fruiting. I actually wrote fruiting
instead of fruition and had to read it. I saw
him looking fruition fruiting. It came to fruiting. Okay, this
is not the time to joke. Stop it, care, stop it.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Ariel received a phone call from Chris saying that her
mom accidentally.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Shot herself and this is Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yes. Police arrived at the scene to find Chris frantically
explaining what happened. He said they got in a fight
and that she ran in, she got a gun that
they kept in the house, sloaded next to the bed,
and threatened to kill herself because he said that he
had wanted a divorce. Yep, he said that whenever he

(39:09):
Chris went to get the gun from her, he went
to grab her arm and she pulled back, and they
were fighting back and forth, and she shot herself in
the head.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Basically, I didn't think he made it sound like they
were fighting.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, well, he went to grab her arm and then
she pulled back.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
He still made it kind of he was it was
kind of like, oh, I was trying to get the gun,
but also she just jerked back to try to and
pull the trigger to get Whenever.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I tried to pull her hand one way, she was
pulling the other way and her hand was on the trigger.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
But he still made it sound like she tried to
she was pulling the trigger intentionally to kill herself, but
in this struggle that's how it actually happened.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
But then he was trying to save her from it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Now, police describe the scene. Olivia was in her bedroom,
lying down, partially dressed. She had an exit wound by
her left eye and it appeared to have been shot.
She appeared to have been shot from the back of
her head, which is why he had to try to
explain something because you don't normally shoot yourself in the
back of the head when you're trying to kill yourself.

(40:16):
It's an odd angle. Now, police immediately were thinking this
did not appear to be a suicidal shot. So they
found her car to have groceries in it and they
were still cold. Her phone was in the car and
her car keys were on the hood. There were flowers
in the front seat looked like for a Valentine's Day,

(40:38):
and so it just appeared that she was in the
middle of basically unloading the car or something, for get
prepping for the food truck and everything when all of
this happened. It just so things were not adding up.
So they speak to family and friends, and no one
said Olivia was suicidal or depressed or anything. And again

(41:00):
nothing at the scene indicated that she was planning on
taking her life. That day, police did notice all of
the cameras in the house, so they were hoping that
they would show them what happened. I mean, case closed.
You know, got cameras all in the house. Probably were thinking,
this is weird, but this is great. Now we know
exactly we'll know exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
They brought Chris down to the station.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
He was interviewed and he wasn't handcuffed during this interview,
so I think they didn't mention it, but he was
definitely a handcuff so they were untrusting of him right
from the start.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Well, I thought they handcuffed him later because he actually
had it. What are you talking about, Maybe I didn't
notice that.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
You didn't notice a handcuffs when he was being interviewed
and he was talking and he was handcuffed. Yes, he
was had his restaurant there and there was he was handcuffed.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Chris said they were preparing the food truck and he
felt as she was not doing her part.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Which is a lie. According to everyone that knew her,
she was the one doing all the work and he
was doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
No, he was probably just sitting around, fucking around.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
And yeah, she did all the prep and everything, and
he was just kind of the face whenever he got there,
probably smiling, trying to be charming and everything pretendent.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Like he was probably telling her she wasn't prepping right
or something.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, well maybe she wasn't. Stu Ye me and Stu
Stew's my soux chef whenever I come up with one
of my crazy endeavors, like when I do supper club
for the neighborhood and everything like that, and he's my
sooux chef. And then I critique his prep skills. Yeah,
you're not dicing the onions.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Like set up, don't your damn stuff by it?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
No what what?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Chris said that he was always strived for the best,
and that he felt that she was not living up
to her part of the deal or his standards.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
He I mean, he's I get why the daughter said
immediately she thought he was arrogant because he sounded so
arrogant to these police officers or these detectives interview and
going saying I strive to be the very best or
I am I'm acting at the very top levels. Yes,
and she's just not and it's like you're a loser.

(43:15):
You're on administrative leave. She's making all this money, keeping
the household up, doing all this stuff, and you're just
like sitting at home in your in your pajama pants.
You feel personally a text.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
I do, but I'm okay with it. Okay, you need
to take your ass to work, maybe get a second
job or something. I got a standard of living that
I have become accustomed to.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Shut up, stuck.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
He said that he told Olivia that he wanted a divorce,
and he said that's when she lost her shit, and
that's when she went to the room, to the bedroom,
she grabbed the g and the struggle ensued, and that
just during that struggle somehow she shot herself in the

(44:07):
back of the head.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
They asked him for the video and he freely hands
over his phone.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
No problem, problem, you go here, you go take it.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
The problem was that the three minutes leading up to
the shooting they're all missing. Chris said it was a
glitch in the system and that he had not charged
the cameras properly.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's where Stu was coming on about, like, oh well
he had remote cameras that he had to charge. Blah blah.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, well you got to. You gotta be able to
take them down and charge them, okay, if they're wireless.
He continued to deny any involvement other than just trying
to save Olivia's life and he or any involvement in
the camera system.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, like I didn't. They kept saying, did you delete this,
and he's like not, It's just a glitch. It was
just a glitch of the system.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
After the continued questioning, Chris finally admits to deleting the
video on all but one camera. They retrieved the video
and they see that there was not an argument. Chris
went to the bedroom first.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
So, which is completely opposite of what he said, because
he said, oh, they got into an argument and she
stormed off to the bedroom.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yes, to get the gun and kill herself. According to
the video, Chris went to the bedroom first, and Olivia
calmly walks in after him, and there the video goes dark.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
So he deleted he did, so, well, did it goes dark?
I don't want to say dark. It goes into the bedroom,
so you can't see what's going on. Because this all
happened in the bedroom.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Was just and what they said was Olivia was doing
she was doing something in the kitchen and she didn't
know that he was down in the bedroom. And then
when she rounded the corner, she looked shocked to see him.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, because he's probably holding a fucking gun. Yeah, he's
probably pretty shocking. She's over here just trying to cut
some tomatoes up and he's over there and.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Like, what the hell you got the gun for?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So police, after they see this and they see that
his story and messing up about her going.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
It's quite clear he did.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
You know, he's place him under arrest.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
So Chris this this, I found this absolutely thing. So
Chris was let out on bond and why he was
let out, I mean, I guess they let him out.
I don't know. I don't understand how someone murders somebody
and they're allowed to just walk about the the world.
Why aren't they at least on house arrests murder? Yes,
this is not I.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Mean, I'm not even sure how you bond out when
you commit first to gree murder.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah, I don't or and be just free to to
to go about. I mean, I don't know what the
full stipulations were, but the fact that he was even
out of the house to me seemed shocking. So he
continues to run this food truck that she bought and
everything like that. Well, the family found out about this,
and they were pissed. So they made sure that this
was not a successful food truck anymore, and they wanted

(47:01):
everyone to know that this murderer was running it, and
that he killed his wife and was running the food
truck that she purchased and set up and everything, and
trying to profit off of this. And so I believe
the food truck eventually did not work out for him.
But why was he allowed to go run the food
truck because maybe he got special thing saying you can
be at home and you can be at work. But

(47:21):
the problem is the work is the food truck, which
can literally be anywhere, so he has no restrictions basically exactly. Yeah,
I don't know what judge allowed him to find out, Yeah,
and to torment the family like that, just being out
there running the fucking food truck, Jesus, and like in
her house that she paid for and everything with her

(47:44):
working in her business and stuff. I would just be pissed. Now.
During the trial, several videos are shown to the jury
and they're pretty disturbing. So Chris is seen screaming at
Olivia and pushing her, shoving her everything like that, and
she's just it's very disturbing because she's just so calm,

(48:06):
trying to remain calm during this, and this guy's just
he's just shoving her and pushing her down and screaming,
fuck you da da da da and everything. Look, how
you this there's food on the wall. You're disgusting, just
screaming at her, and she's just calmly, just trying to
get through this. The these incidents, and so there's several
videos like that, and Olivia's family this where they I

(48:28):
don't think they understood the level they saw the outside Steah,
that was.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
A lot of verbal abuse.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, and on top of physical abuse. But they just
saw the stuff he did out in public, which he
probably kept it under wraps pretty well. But they were
just in shock that he was so controlling and that
it was it was at the extent that it was.
They weren't aware of this.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, it was. It was quite shocking toward Dan whenever
they were yeah, playing the show, playing the videos from
the kitchen, and you could see what was going on,
just in there, trying to do clean up or whatever,
and he's just losing his shit. In twenty twenty two,
Chris was found guilty of first degree felony murder and
he was sentenced to thirty years in prison without the

(49:13):
right to appeal the case. He chose this route because
he did not think he could win an appeal and
he might have received the highest penalty, which was ninety
nine years. He will be eligible for parole on March fifth,
twenty thirty seven, when he is fifty eight years old.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
So hopefully he doesn't listen to this podcast episode exactly.
He seems angry.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And released March fifth, twenty fifty two, when he is
seventy three years.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Old, so he's probably if he's in good health, he's
going to be out. The problem for him though, he
was a prison guard, yes, and he's probably not doing
very well in prison right now.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
He's probably got to be what do they call that
when they segregate him.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
He's in he's not in gin pop, Nope, he's in yeah, segregation, secretary,
that's not a story.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I don't know what to say there.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Segretory, that's not a word. I don't think now isolation.
I think it is segregation.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, segregate.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
It's not in gin pop. He's in segregation.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, they got all the ones that are the vulnerable inmates.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
That a yeah, I say, just throw them in gin pop.
See what happens. Because it's usually the worst people. It's
the child rapist and stuff like that. They have to
keep separate because they're going to get murdered. It's like,
let's just let prison justice lay out.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Just put them in some pink, pink uniforms.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
And let everybody know. Yeah. So, yeah, he's going to
get out at some point and.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Come looking for you for picking this.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Can twenty thirty seven. That's that's in twelve years, we
won't be around here here. We will not be He
will not know where we are. We might be honest.
Twelve years now, you think we're still gonna be doing
this podcast, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I didn't think we'd be doing it for long.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
We're not doing It's so funny because we've been doing
it for so long, but we do not have that
many episodes for someone. We're only like episode one thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I thought we're like one sixty.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
No, we're on episode one thirty eight, and we've been
doing this since two thousand and No, two thousand and sixteen,
we've been doing this. No, nine years, that's not right. No,
I think it was. I think it was twenty sixteen.

(51:37):
We these are twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, so it's been
eight or nine years and we only have one hundred
and thirty eight episodes. I'm ashamed of us, Stewart. We're
going to do better, people, Okay, I know I say.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
That every time you're a liar.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
We are going to do better. No, I'm committed. This summer,
we are putting one episode out every single week. Guys,
you heard her first. No more cruises for care.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
They've heard a lot of shit, come on, I know they.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Have for shit, but there's they're still hanging around. I
mean some people have been listenings from the beginning when
we had terrible audio.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Terrible, yes, but we were, and they actually go back
and listen to some of the ship again.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I know, I know. I was thinking about maybe if
there's weeks where we don't have enough time to write
a new episode to go that they.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Get a new episode every week.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Okay, a new episode everything. We're gonna do it. We're
gonna We're doing it. I'm making the commitment. We don't
have any trips so you know how we love to travel.
We're taking a little pause. We're taking a break because
we are traveled out at this point. We've travel, travel traveled.
You know, we've been for like NonStop for the last

(52:45):
eight or nine months. We've we we started.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
We started in June going.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
To pod Yes, mistake.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I didn't. It wasn't worth the drive. I liked Corpus
Christie better better. Yeah, I mean, Texas doesn't have the
best beaches. I mean, you gotta, you gotta just I
mean it's better than Galveston, But it wasn't worth the extrive.
And we were there there was tar all over the
beaches and got all over our clothes.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
We had clothes out.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
So we started in June. There. We don't travel anyways
over the summer because with my work, with stuff I
have to do at work, it's July is like a
really bad month for me, So we can't really travel
that month anyways, like July August. So then September we
went on the Disney Cruise. Then we went to the

(53:38):
the Balloon Festival Fiesta in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And then
we went.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
To Fredericksburg or vice versa.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, one of those was one way or the other
Fredericksburg for Octoberfest. And then we went to Europe for
almost three weeks to see the Christmas markets. And then
we're home and we're like, okay, we're going to take
a break from traveling. And then we booked a cruse, Yes,
rolled Cribban Goddess with a good deal. Mistakes were made,

(54:08):
and then I started getting antsy because January is also
a bad work month for me, so I started getting antsy. Oh,
we went to Louisiana for two weeks, so I had
to use up the rest of my maternity or we
went for a week and then I was like, okay,
we're going to take a pause. But then I started
getting antsy. So we booked a trip. We went to
Corpus Christie for like four or five days to visit
my brother. That was a good trip though. I enjoyed

(54:29):
the Corpus Christie. Yes, and then they roll Caribbean Goddess
and we booked this cruise. But now we need to stop,
we need to take a break. We need to just
be home and record our podcast. Yes, so yeah, well
we got lots of projects at home we need to
be doing. We don't need to be running off every
couple of weeks because then when you have a big trip,

(54:51):
it's not just the trip you're going on, it's all
the planning for the trip, the pack. Then you have
we have all these children, so it's like the packing
for the trip. It's just a lot to go and
always have something like anticipating it and be like, Okay,
we got to figure out the packing. We got to
figure out what we're doing. So are you not gonna
say anything?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
You're over this?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
This is the end of the podcast, and I guess
I'm guessing you ain't got no y'all. Need you ready
to go?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I ain't ready to go. I got to pull up.
But I know what story it is.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Okay, wy don't you whip it out?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Stop you again?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Oh god, I forgot we did that last time. I
said whip it out and you went.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
You win.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Like you like you was whipping something out. Oh my goodness.
All right, well you go get your y'all need Jesus
and we'll be right here. I should make you guys,
all wait the entire time that it takes us, Like
we should just be on air silent so they can
see how long this takes.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It doesn't take that long.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
It does take that long.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
It does.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Okay, well, I'll continue to talk to you guys, why
while he looks this up so you can see how
long this actually takes me. After I've written the whole case,
We got everything all ready to go, and he had
one job was the y'all need Jesus, it's the same
story every single week. You keep looking. What am I
going to talk about Papa Bear?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, let's talk about you being a stalker, Stuart. I'm
not a stalker.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
He's presenting himself on the internet and I am just yes,
and I am just being entertained. At first I thought
he was crazy, and then I became he got me.
I became fascinated by the Papa Bear. And he did
have the shirt, so his Papa Bear, the man, the myth,
the legend. I thought he would only have it, you know,
like one of those shirts. No, no, no, no no.

(56:48):
He had it multiple days, in multiple colors. So he
had a gray one one day and then another day
we saw him, he had the brown one, and then
he had it in purple. He had the one he
wore getting onto the cruise. And then I did catch
him and his wife. He was there with his wife,
so I caught him and his wife. They were doing
the cruise photos. You know. Oh my god, don't even
get me started on the people that do the cruise photos.

(57:10):
I can't formal night. They like cut off all the
stairs so these people can take photos. Me and Stu
and the kids are all we were in exactly whatever
we wore that day. We are not dressing up fancy.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Are you ready fancy like Applebee's? Yes, yes, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Okay, I'll stop bitching because maybe there's someone out there
that goes on cruises and.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
They probably take cruise photos.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Listen, I say things that annoy me and I think
are stupid. But guess what, I probably do a whole
bunch of stuff that you guys would think is stupid,
like become obsessed with Papa Bear. Yes, they're probably like,
what a fucking weirdo.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I know I'm married to you, and I thought the
same exact goddamn thing. I'm like, how are you fucking
kidding me? Right now? No, I know you were like,
did you take a picture like I did a No,
I didn't take a picture of it, dude.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
He sent me on the little because we don't pay
for the internet on the crew, so send me the message.
He's like, gets to I saw it. He's like, I
just saw Papa Bear. But did you take a video?
He said no. I didn't know at that point that
I would actually see him in person multiple times. So
I thought this was a ship. But it is a

(58:20):
big ship. You could never see you. I mean, it's
not not too big for Papa Bear.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
He gets wrong.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
ABC News May by John Hayworth. Woman arrested after raccoon
named Chewi found with meth pipe and driver's seat during
police stop.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Wait what.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Headline? Woman arrested after raccoon named Chewi found with meth
pipe and driver's seat during police stop.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
So they pulled her over and there's a raccoon in
the driver's seat with the meth pipe.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yes, Okay, Florida not Florida, Florida.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Uh gotta be Florida.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I don't think so think so Ohio.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
You know what I was thinking. I was like, this
sounds like an Ohio story. I was actually honest to God,
in my head, I was like, this sounds like something
that happened on Ohio.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
This was all over the news today, but I guess
you missed it. Yeah, I'm sure that everybody that's listening
to this has probably hurt his story already. I'm sure
it wasn't all over the viral story. You got a
raccoon holding the math pipe and it's on the cops
body camera. You can see the raccoon. No, the story

(59:39):
with the math pipe.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
No. The current story that I am disturbed by right
now on TikTok that's gone viral is there's this lady
that cooked two crabs in an air fryer and it
was a glass one. I don't know how it's still
on TikTok because apparently like crabs have feelings and they
were like hugging each other because they're getting cooked alive

(01:00:01):
in this air frier. And she filmed it all and
you could see it. But she was she wasn't She
didn't realize. She had no clue. What she was doing
was very disturbing. She's just cooking crabs in an air fryer.
She you could hear them like screaming and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Oh Jesus up they were.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Like hugging each other, because yes they were, they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Were hugging each other.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
There's sincient beings? Is that the word sentient beings?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Stop? Just stop?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
No they here?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Are you going to tell me my crawfish are hugging
each other too?

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yes, okay, you're not well, never mind you maybe you're
one of the people that like the videos.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
You're not coming back to the crawfish place with me.
A woman has been arrested after a raccoon named Chewi
was found holding a meth pipe in the driver's seat
of her car and what police are calling a strange
encounter on patrol in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
This is like, oh my god, you have no idea
you just said. You just quoted Dori Eat from the
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. Andy started yawning and
she's turned and she said, am I boring you? You
don't even know that you that you were quoting her?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Wow, I'm probably quoting a lot of people that have boring.
The incident occurred on Monday at approximately seven to fifteen
pm when Springfield Township Police officer Austin Branham. Brandham decided
to conduct a traffic stop on South Arlington Road after
identifying a vehicle whose registered owner had an active warrant

(01:01:42):
and a suspended driver's license. According to the Springfield PD,
when officer Brenham approached the car, he found fifty five
year old Victoria Battle of Akron, Ohio, and was able
to detain her without incidents. However, things took an unusual turn,
and according to police statement, as Officer Brandham returned to

(01:02:03):
the vehicle, he observed the raccoon named Chewi.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
How do they know his name was Chewy? Did he
present a driver's license? I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Well maybe, oh, what's her face? Said? What his name was? Chewye?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Put that medpipe down, Chewie. That's met up. I forgot
their Ohio. They don't got the country accents. You don't
think in Ohio. I don't know. They don't have country
accents in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
People in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
No, you don't think they got country folks. No, not
that sound like people in the No, it doesn't matter.
People in the country in Ohio sound different than people
in the country in the south. They don't have that accent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
People in one part of Texas sound different than the
other people know, Okay, No.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
One in Ohio sounds like like, oh, that's that's met up.
You don't think no, okay if you're from Ohio. Let
us know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Well, chewis sitting in the driver's seat and he's got
a med pipe in his mouth like he's smoking it.
Chewi had somehow gotten hold of a glass meta amphetamine pipe,
leading officers to further inspect the vehicle. Police did confirm
that Chewi was a pet raccoon and that he was
not a wild animal, after Bidal had the appropriate paperwork

(01:03:15):
and documentation that she owned him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I think it's so funny that she was a methetic,
but she was responsible enough to have PaperWorks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
However, a subsequent search revealed that Vidal's car contained a
bulk amount of metha afetamine, cracked cocaine, and three used
glass meta amphetamine pipes. Bible was charged with possession of
uh F three, possession of drugs I don't know what
that is, three, council possession of drug paraphernalia, and was
cited for driving under suspension. She was also subsequently turned

(01:03:51):
over to Cayuga Falls Police on her active warrant, where
additional charges related to crack cocaine possession will be per
se it at grand jury pending lab results. Thankfully, Chewy
was unharmed and notification was made to proper authorities to
determine that she has the proper pay work and documentation

(01:04:13):
to own Chewy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Well, I wonder where Chewy is now. Hopefully he went
to a sanctuary. Nice he's an outpatient facility. Anyways, that
reminds me. So there's this thing where they do on
Instagram or whatever on the rails they'll say, so there's

(01:04:38):
like type A moms that are you know, you know,
everything's on a schedule, they know where everything is, phones
always charged, gas in the car, just like got it
all together. And then type B moms have no clue,
kids eating goldfish off the floor, running out of gas,
you know, with all this stuff. And then there's type
C moms that they're made. They made this category and

(01:05:01):
it's you know, my kids eat all organic. But then
it shows them like handing them, you know, doing something
like that's completely or like having like here kids clears
away and it's like, you know, crap all over the
house is a mess. But then like, oh no, my
kid only needs organic. So it's like a mix of
the two. So she reminds me of a Type C mom.

(01:05:23):
She's on meth, which is the type B behavior, but
she's got her paperwork in order, which is type eight,
which makes her a Type C raccoon mom.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
It's a mixed bag, yes what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Aye, Yes, So that's what it reminded me of. All right,
that was a long walk, yep, it was. I think
we need to hang it on up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I think we should.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
All right, well, I guess check out the Patreon if
you don't want the mads, so you can bump that
review up to five stars.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
All right, you could bomp it up the five stars
and just leave it as it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Yeah, and then Instagram, Facebook, TikTok you sound bored rate
review subscribe. I'm tired to do It's eleven thirty pm.
Because what happens. We sat down to do this and
then our child had a night terror, which he's only
had ever had one other in his entire childhood, and

(01:06:16):
all of a sudden he started having a night terr
And it's kind of weird because you just don't know
what to do. You don't know because they won't wake up.
So then some things say like don't touch him, but
then he then he was gonna if they share a
room with our daughter. So we're like, okay, we need
to get him out because he was starting to you know,
get her woken up, and so we're like, okay, well
we'll move him out to the front room. And then

(01:06:36):
he kind of wanted to be held, but then all
of a sudden he freaked out and didn't want to
be held. So then we just he's we just had
a lame on the floor and he finally calmed down.
But it's like, weird they have these last time he
did it. I mean, we did everything wrong. I think
because we didn't know what was going on. We thought
he was, you know, just having a nightmare or something
like that because it never happened before. So we're trying

(01:06:57):
to wake him up, and it just made it worse
or some worse. And so finally I started looking up
because we were about to take him to the emergency room.
We might have we might have been going to record
the podcast. I feel like I told this story now.
We thought we were gonna take I was like, we
were on the verge of getting dressed to take him
to the emergency room. We thought maybe he had a stomach,
like something was lodged in his intestines, and so I
started looking it up on the thing and they're like, no,
leave him alone. So we just so we started kind

(01:07:19):
of backing off, not talking to him, and just kind
of laid him on the floor whatever. And then all
of a sudden, out of nowhere, he just pops up awake,
looks around, grabs his blanky, and walks back to to
the room and lays down a coast to sleep. I
was like, oh my god, that was so wed. Yeah,
it was an hour and a half, but again, we

(01:07:40):
made it worse that time because we didn't know what
to do. This time. Again, we didn't really know what
to do, but we knew what not to do. So
once we laid him down, if he even heard us
start talking, he would start getting kind of upset again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
So he's laying on the floor, yes currently.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, because that was the likely place he like, We
started talking around him and he started getting fussy. So
I was like, okay, we're just gonna live. Let him
lay in there, so hopefully when we move him, he's
out of his little trance. You know, he's fine, he's safe,
and he's happy. Right now, he's sleeping peacefully. But it's

(01:08:17):
just weird if anybody's had a child that has night terrors.
But all right, okay, I'm done now, well, I guess
we will see you next week. Ste We will see
you next time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Why are you're making promises.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
For episode one nine? We're moving on up in this world?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
We anything else do now? Okay, Well, see you next time.
Buy everyone, say bye, stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Tell you know it's bad to be SUPERSTI shots like
nothing else. It's working. It's sick, this worn o