May 30, 2025 • 51 mins
Adrianne had plans to move in with her boyfriend in Clearwater, Florida but when she is found murdered in her townhome, police must piece together her whereabouts to find her killer and bring him to justice.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess and the dry
Crum podcast. I'm care here with Stu, says do Hey,
we are back this week and we are going to Florida, Florida. Sorry, guys,
I'm very tired and I'm very tired, so I hope
I have enthusiasm. We're supposed to record this last night,
(00:41):
but I had a really bad headache and I went
to bed at like nine pm. It is now nine
to twenty four pm, and I would love to be
in bed right now. But Stu went to go lay
down with the children because we actually had a thunderstorm here.
So also, let me just say that I missed out
on going to sleep while it was raining, which never
happens here. I mean, it does happen, but usually there's
(01:03):
like hell and tornado warns and bad things happening in
high winds. But the last few nights it has been
just a thunderstorm. Yes. Anyways, the children of our daughter
was afraid, so Stu had to go lay down in
there in their room while they went to sleep. And
then he fell asleep, and I'm texting, going where are
you are we? What are we doing? And then finally
(01:26):
he appears and he's like, I don't know when she
fell asleep. I fell asleep. So anyway, so it's now
nine thirty and I'm tired, but we're here to record
this podcast, even though i'd like to say something tell
me from a couple episodes ago, Stu, I never read
the I never read the review where Stu said someone
(01:48):
was complaining about the ads and I was like, well,
get over it, that's not Stu did not convey that
review very well. She wasn't complaining about the ads, complaining
about the placement of the ads.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I said there was nothing we could do it, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But there is something to do. She was saying that
that it's okay. So whatever they put the ads in,
they're supposed to find like natural pauses. So for instance,
like this is a pause, so they're supposed to find
like a natural pause. But I don't know, maybe they're
cutting into the middle.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I don't listen to this again. Like whatever is recorded,
we edit as we go, and I don't. I'm not
gonna listen to myself again. I just can't do it myself.
My my self esteem cannot handle listening to myself on
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And I gotta listen to you all the time, so
I'm definitely not gonna listen to you anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So I will make sure this time when they go out,
I will make sure it's not in the middle of
a sentence. Maybe find a natural break and put one in. So,
I mean, maybe we need to be thinking about that
when we're recording these. I do not know anyway, So
I would just like to apologize to whoever other of you.
Although I don't feel like we deserve three stars for that,
(03:02):
just do five stars to say please. They're like, cause
them bitches ain't gonna look at it unless I give
them three stars. I gotta take a couple of stars
off for them to notice now. Alice, on the other hand,
she gave us a one star review because she said
she wrote a whole entire yes about how terrible we are.
Thank you, Alice, and we put a fair warning. We
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are inappropriate. We cuss and I laugh in uncomfortable situations.
We have talked about this. I don't know how to
handle uncomfortable situations except for joking about them. So that's
how we do. And we do try to not I
don't know, we try. Just never mind to we're never
(03:45):
gonna change. I don't think we're disrespectful to the victims ever.
I think we laugh about other things in this stuff,
but we try not to have anything unless there's just
really something silly. Sometimes there's just really something silly. But
for the most part, no, we mainly make jokes about
like stuff going on with us that when we're doing
(04:07):
reading the case, it reminds us of things going on.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But that means you have no empathy.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, I have no empathy. I'm just a terrible bitch.
So thank you, Alice. Appreciate you. Appreciate the review, and
I will work on the ad placement. I don't know
if I'm going to work on it this time, but
maybe next time I will so because it is late,
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(04:36):
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promise anything because I've said this many at times, but
we actually have like a little thing we're planning. So
just to hint, we are watching the what's her name, Cherry,
Cherry Shappini, Scherry Pepinie.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was hungry? Is that what? Uh? That's what?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Monkey said Panini. No, who said Panini?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I did No.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She was upset with someone. Oh, she was calling nine
one one or yes, and she said, she said, my
name is Sherry Peppini. He says Cherry Panini.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
She's like, no, Puppini. Hey was hungry.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Anyways, we are watching that. So that's just a hint
and maybe something that might be discussed because you know,
Alice was like something silly. Well, there's something silly, Miss
Sherry Peppini. She's silly. So we're we are working on
something for a patron But Stu does have his eye
surgery coming up, so we may be not having episodes
(05:45):
for the next two weeks. Probably not unless I get
going and get something in before before Sunday, but that's
probably not gonna happen, guys, So so might have a
two week break going into Stu's eye surgery. So yes,
thank you everyone on Patreon, falls, on Instagram, Facebook, and
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write a review that's not one star would be appreciated.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Thanks Alice.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yep, do not go ask Alice. That's a book, Stu,
go ask Alice.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Anyways, all right, so let's go ahead and get into
this week's episode. Out of Florida. Did I say that
right out of Florida? I could not think of fact
of the matter today?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I just said it earlier. I don't know if I
said it on the pod. I could not say think
of fact. I was like matter of matter of fact,
fact of the matter. They're both they're both options, right, yes, okay.
Adrian Robert was born January fourth, nineteen eighty three, to
Mark and Dolores Robert in Brunswick, Maine. Now Adrian, Maine,
(06:58):
beautiful state.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Did like it?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yes, We went to Bayhaibah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It was lovely, and we went to.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What where's Stephen King's house? Was it Brunswick? No, someone knows.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We popped by in front of it and yeah, we went.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, they're like they're little like the red balloons from it.
People had put them all out on the on the
gates and everything. So very pretty, very pretty state.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Maine.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Now Adrian grew up in Maine with her parents and brother.
She attended leave It or Levitt High School and graduated
in two thousand and one. She would later go on
to attend the University of Maine in Augusta, and she
would graduate in two thousand and five. Now she decided
to go back to school. So she went in and
decided to try something completely different, and she moves to St. Petersburg,
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Florida to attend USF. Now, while living in Florida, Adrian
met Justin Pounderst.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Stuart.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now, why can't you just be mature? Now? Justin Pounders.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, she's just.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Even just in time or something. Uh. They hit it
off immediately. Justin thought Adriane was beautiful and funny and
they just had a really good time together. Now, Adriane
and Justin were progressing their relationship and they decided they
want to move in together. Well, Adrian was currently living
in Clearwater, Florida, in a townhouse with her friend Jay.
(08:32):
So she's gonna need to, you know, move out today, roommate.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So they Justin and Adrian were excited to take this
next step in their relationship and they found a place.
So they start packing, getting ready to move on out
and move on in with each other. I'll do it, Stuart,
I was just having flat too late for you to
It's too late or is it?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is it ever too late? On July thirteenth, twenty twelve,
Adrian and Jay, who is the roommate, Kara.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yes, I wanted to just make sure everybody remembered.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That decided to have a last evening together. Kind of
is a farewell of all the time that they had
spent together, lived together. Justin was fine with this because
he needed to finish packing a few things and organizing
for the big move the next day. At around three
thirty four am, that's God, I can't even imagine being
(09:32):
up that lie.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I know, nine thirty three, I mean, and I'm like Jesus,
I should already be asleep six hours by then.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, I would like to be asleep myself. But at
three thirty four am, which is late, well, we already
did early.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
What is that probably in our neighborhood? Yeah, someone probably
got shot. Get us out of.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Here now, like Jay did. We should probably call nine one,
but Jay calls nine to one one.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is what Alice is talking about, stew inappropriate Jos, No,
but you skipped a whole section though, Jay. Around three
thirty four am, Jay returns home and Adrian had headed
home before him.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, Adrian had headed home before j When Jay gets
there at three thirty four am, I think we've.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well established he arrived at three thirty four am Stewart.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I just wanted to get back to the dot. He
comes upon Adrian in lying on the bathroom floor and
she's not moving. She's covered in blood. He calls nine
to one one. He tells him that she's not breathing.
The nine to one one operator walks in through CPR
until help arrives, but it is too late. Adrian is
(10:50):
pronounced dead at the scene. Police head to the scene
to process the town home for evidence, and when they
arrived they notice that there are no signs a forest entry.
The townhome has two stories. Adriane is lying in the
bathroom just off the stairs on the second floor. From
the initial scene, they can tell that Adrian has a
stab wound to the chest and that she has bled
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out all over the bathroom. There was a broken toilet
seat and blood spatter in the bathtub as if there
had been a struggle. Adrian was undressed and it appeared
that a sexual assault had been the motive. There was
blood prints. There were blood prints leading out of the
room and they would most likely be from the killer,
as Adrian would not have been able to leave the
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room after the stab wound. In her bedroom, there was
also a very odd clue. A large circular portion of
her bed sheet had been cut out, as if the purse.
Someone had removed it to take the evidence of a
possible rape. They collect whatever evidence they can from the
bed and during her autopsy they find bruising on her
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arms and other bruising indicating rape.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Now, when looking outside, they find Adriane's jeep was missing.
So she's a jeep girls doew, so automatically makes her
cooler than me other girls. I was a jeep girls,
stew you were.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I still have the jeep and now you're a mini.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I know how the mighty have fallen. I still have
the jeep though one day we'll reconnect. Now police immediately
assume that probably the killer had taken the jeep during
the getaway, because a lot of times that the killer
or someone who does something robs someone, you know they're
going to take their car. So they canvassed the neighborhood
and they just start asking around to see if anybody
(12:35):
saw anything suspicious or anything like that. They start by
speaking to Jay and he walks them through their night
and he said that they headed to a place called
Diamond Dolls around ten thirty PM strip club. It is
a strip club, so this was Police were initially like, oh,
you guys were going to a strip club, you know,
(12:55):
because I don't know a lot of women that I
have been to a strip club. But that's not something
that I would have you now, Stuart, we've been to
strip clubs together very infrequently, and it was in New Orleans.
Oh yeah, We've been to other things in New Orleans
that were not good anyways, So you know, police were like, oh,
(13:17):
this this little weird. But Jay actually he's like, yeah,
this is actually something we do all the time because
it's within walking distance of their house. But anyways, I
looked up Diamond Dolls is still a round stew and
it was rated like number one gentlemen's club, like seven
years in a row or something, So we.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Need to go do some researchers what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, And it's been around since like nineteen eighty three,
so Diamond Dolls is still going strong. So yeah, So
but police with her going to this strip club, they
are concerned about the possibly the different types of people
Adrian might encounter. There could be plenty of suspects there.
I mean, you are going to a mainly men or
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there mainly men that want to be with women, and
now we have this sexually motivated crime, so you know,
the suspect list could be big. Now. Jay says they
were approached by a because they start asking, you know,
did anything weird happen? Did you talk to anybody? And
he does say that a man approached them while they
were sitting at the bar, and the police asked him
(14:20):
to describe and he said he was an African American.
He had a goateee, he was medium billed and not
too tall. He said that he'd never, you know, met
this person before. He didn't even get the guy's name.
It seemed like they were Jay and Adrian were sitting
at the bar and this guy, you know, you know,
someone will just kind of come up and sit next
next to you and just kind of start chatting you
(14:43):
up or whatever at the bar, like getting the feelers
out and stuff like that. So it seemed like that
was more. He wasn't like joining their group or anything
like that. So Adrian decided that she wanted to go
ahead and leave since she was moving the next morning.
She needed to get home, get a good night's sleep
and everything like that. Well, Jay he wasn't ready to go,
(15:04):
so he stays a little longer. Well, after Adrian leaves,
the man sitting with them asked, you know, asked Jay
where she went, and he told him, well, she had
to go, and then that's when the man got up
and left, and he Jay just thought he was hanging
around him because he thought he might.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Be able to, you know, get it out or something.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, he was probably hitting on or hoping to you know,
hit on Adrian. And then she left and then he's like, oh, yeah,
she left, So then he's probably thinking, oh. The guy
just is like, Okay, well, I'm not gonna sit around
here with this this dude I don't know at this
strip club. And so he didn't really think it wasn't
anything suspicious or anything like that, but it was something
that he you know, remembered happening. So police need to
(15:47):
verify Jay's story, so they request footage from the Diamond
Dolls establishment.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
STU. I need to request some footage from.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
There, and there was several that needed to go do
undercover work to see.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Meanwhile, police are able to find her jeep pretty quickly.
It's only about three or four blocks away. It was
still running and the lights were on. The jeep was
parked near a carmac, so police head to the business
to see if they caught anything on a camera. They
have him playback everything starting with the evening of July thirteenth,
and at around three point thirty eight am, they see
(16:21):
a figure walking through the parking lot. It appears to
be a black mail with long hair, a baseball hat,
and he was wearing shorts. The person was also walking
away from where the jeep was found. So this was
their best lead so far.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, it wasn't. They didn't see him. Actually, this was
just in the Carmacks parking lot, so it's just going across.
They don't actually can't actually see the jeep in it,
but it's just the jeep was over there or where
they would he would have left from.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yes, and they see him walking away from that general area.
Police didn't have any other camera angle showing him leaving
the jeep. They didn't show him coming in, leaving anything.
They don't know where he went next or anything like that.
They continue to ask around the neighborhood when they find
someone who says that they saw Adrian and a black
male running down the road late at night. It seemed
(17:12):
odd to them because Adrian was wearing a dress and
carrying her shoes, so it's not like they were out
there working out there we're doing a workout at four
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah it was. It was in the middle of the
night and she's running with her shoes in her hand
to wear her dress. So now they've got the the
the description of the person in the CarMax parking lot
of the running down. That's all they have is just
very general descriptions of people. So it's not their best
bet right now is the one walking in the Carmacks
(17:42):
parking lot, because why are you walking in a CarMax
parking lot at three thirty eight am, you know, four hours? No,
it's like, what are you doing? You're not looking for
that mini van like we were. We've got That's where
we got our minivan was CarMax. Because when you have
three small chill LDN and a car that really doesn't
fit all three.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, I went through this last week with the suburban
and all.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, I'm saying it's very difficult to go car searching.
And where we are is in a freaking you know,
cultural desert, not economic desert, though it's.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Not a cultural desert. There's lots of things to do here.
There's a theater down the road.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm sorry, a cultural wasteland.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, that would be the same thing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, we are out here in the middle of nowhere,
so everything is limited and everything's more expensive because it's
takes so long to get anything else. So any of
the good cars, the good deals are gone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, it's just like living in Hawaiian.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, it's just like living in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Stud hard to get things and they're more expensive.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, yes, it's just a little bit different views, you know,
a little bit. Yeah. Anyway, so we used CarMax because
they'll ship if it's within a certain distance, they'll ship
a car from another CarMax and you can go test
drive it. Now. Now, don't get any ideas though we
didn't have a CarMax here though, we're not that upit.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Y up.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
We had to drive an hour up to Lubbock, hour
and a half up to Lubbock, which does have a CarMax.
And then so they shipped this car from Dallas, Houston, Houston,
they shifted up there. I think, No, it was Dallas.
They shipped it from Dallas, which is five hours away. Yeah,
they shipped it here, it arrived, we drove went up there,
and then we had to make a decision if we
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wanted it, and we bought it. That's that, and then
it got a hell damage a month or a week
or two late.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You told the exact same story last up.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
No, I didn't. I was talking about how I was
talking about the differences between the mini vans. This is
how we got the Mini van and in the CarMax.
I know I didn't mention CarMax last week because we
didn't have a CarMax in the episode. We had a Walmart. Okay,
I'm sure I talked about a Walmart. You're wrong, But okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The reviews will tell us, all sure.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'm sure Alice will let us.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Know, because God knows you won't go back and listen
to either.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I can't do that to myself, Stuart, I don't. I
don't have a high enough self esteem for that. All right,
So please get the video footage from Diamond Dolls. And
they were able to verify that. Adrian and Jay arrived
at ten thirty pm. Like Jay said, you know, everything's
the up and up. They didn't really suspect Jay, you know,
(20:22):
he wasn't. On the of course they had to question him,
but he wasn't. Nothing he did made them think that
he was, you know, the guy, so they are also
able to verify that. So whenever they went into the
strip club, they were all happy, laughing like everything was great,
and they were also able to verify that. He left
around three am alone. Soft, No, he left alone. No, Stuart, don't,
(20:47):
don't try to correct me, like you know this more
than I do. There's our neighbors and they're freaking god.
Why why are they like this?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Okay, So he leaves at three am to walk home
and they see him leaving on camera by himself. Now
they rewind back in around one thirty eight eight am,
they see Adrian leave the club. She has but she
has her shoes on because you know, the person said
they saw her running holding her shoes. Well, in this one,
she has her shoes on and she's walking out alone.
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Doesn't seem rushed, doesn't seem fearful, just very relaxed, leaving
out of the establishment. Stew Why do I feel like
if it's if it's a strip clube, bunny, then call
it an establishment.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Let's say the club the clurb in a clurb.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
We all, fam, you still don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I said it the clurb, We all.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Fam, I have no clue. Just moving, are you racist?
Shut up and read on?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, So just four seconds, like literally right after she
leaves the the establishment, just four seconds later, they see
a man leave behind Adrian and he starts running after her.
Because they got it. They got a door camera that
comes in and then they got the one out in
the parking lot, so they see him approach her in
that parking lot. He hands her like a black sweater
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or shawl or something that she had left behind, and
they converse a little bit. And so this is completely normal.
Like you they're thinking, Okay, she left her sweater, he's
running it out to her, so normally you would think.
So the next thing you would expect was he goes
back into the establishment, the establishment, and she continues on
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her way. However, they both turn in the direction of
her town home and they start walking. So they get
with Jay and they show him this footage and they
do confirm with him that the man following her in
the parking lot was the man sitting with them at
the establishment at the bar. Now, however, they compare the
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video footage of the man in the CarMax parking lot,
and it's not the same man. This is that was
just some random guy that almost got in trouble because
he's walking in a CarMax. I mean that, I mean
I could see how like that would be their number
one suspect. So if they didn't have this video footage,
that poor man would have had his like stuff blasted
all over there.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yes, would have been flipped upside down. So I figured
out it was not like I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Never walking in a CarMax party at three point thirty
in the morning. You know what they say, only hospital
gels and legs are open past you just go home.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Why would you go home if there's a hospital open?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
All right, So the man in the CarMax parking lot
is eliminated as a suspect, and the person who moved
her jeep must have walked in a different direction, did
not walk towards the CarMax, must have headed off where
there weren't any cameras.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Police received the forensics from the town home and they
found DNA on the sheets near where it was cut
out on Adrian's hands and on her body.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, the person who cut out the killer who cut
out the the you know portion of the sheets as
an idiot, like they were.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Going to get why would you cut the sheet and
just take taking the whole thing off?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I know, it was just like stupid idiot.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
They run the DNA through the data base and they
wait for results. Meanwhile, they continue to track down the
movements of the man that night. He arrived at the
club at around five forty five, and they were able
to get a pretty good video of his face.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, because this was now during at that time, it
was daylight hours, they had to go back pretty far
because I mean that's pretty early. I feel like to
be at the establishment stew five.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It all depends.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They're not even dancing at that time, are they?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, they are, They're dancing at lunchtime. Did I tell
you about but she don't want to be there for
the lunch crew? Did I tell you.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
About the time that our car broke down and that
we had to go into a strip club to get
a help. And I was a little I was a
little girl.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm sure you did.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We had gone to a softball tournament and our car
broke down and the only thing close by was the
Strip club, but it was daytime hours and they only
operated at night, so it was closed. But I remember
the guy he let he you know, it was like
my dad and my mommy. You know, they're like super
super religious, my dad especially anyway, so we go in
(25:32):
here and they were like, oh, yeah, you guys could
come around this way. And then I remember him going
in the room that they had us in and there
was like pictures of naked women. So it's like turn
her around the pictures because you know, for me being
in there was like I mean I was probably like
ten or eleven or something like that. I still remember
the whole thing. And then the other time we ran
(25:53):
into a sketchy situation was, uh so my grandpa worked
for the Ford glass Plant, so like the Ford vehicles,
and he used to make glass. He worked at the
glass plant. He was like really good at making glass,
and so he the company Ford would give him these
like reward points, and so we got we were we
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were pretty broke growing up, like we we we was
broke sto okay anyway, so he had all these points
to go to this like super fancy hotel in New Orleans,
like the I can't the Continental or something like that
super fancy hotel. So here we are, you know, the
Beverly Hillbillies rolling up in our on our old blue suburban.
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My mom of course packed the cooler, so we're bringing
the cooler up. There's like doormen and everything like this
is a fancy They're like, would you like would you
like valet parking? No?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, no no.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So we're rolling up and it's like that that I
still remember. The steps were like red and they were
like the felt or felt not velvet or whatever. And
we're rolling up in our little igle cooler with our stuff. Anyways,
that's not the point. That's we can go on line.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I don't know. I don't know why you don't walk
like watching the bevery Hillbilly is when it seems like
you lived that life. Get some pie some steve. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So anyways, the whole point was this. So we went
to New Orleans. So again my parents were my dad
was super religious, my mom you know Christian everything that
we go walk down Bourbon Street and my parents didn't
really understand I guess like Bourbon Street and so we
were walking by and we were my brothers were like looking,
we were looking at this like fish tank or whatever,
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and my mom's like, oh cool, it's like a fish tank.
And then this lady like swims by and she's topless,
she's a topless mermaid, you know, at the and they're like,
oh god it. So we had to get off three. Anyways,
So those were my two young interactions with strip clubs.
I don't think I had anymore until you were all
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back to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Anyways, okay, so where.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Where was I that he was there at the strip
club them?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Because you said it wasn't open at that time, and
I was trying to tell you that some of them
are closed at that time.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm telling you it could have been opened at that time. Okay, anyway,
been opened at lunch. They have a lot of I.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Feel like they probably closed between like two and two
and six or whatever, like some restaurants, you know, to
clean up. Yeah. Ew the Diamond Dolls. I did look
at their website. They do have those rooms, yeah, for
private They said contact them for a private thing, but
I did.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
There is no contact allowed in the in the champagne room.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, they were not accepting their form that they were
using though to accept applications had been had reached the
max quota and they hadn't reset it. So I don't
know if they're not looking for girls right now or
what's going on? Call to find out, all right, So
they were able to find him at five forty five, again,
pretty good video of him coming in. Was it you were?
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Are you telling this part?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Or was I you were? No? You were this? Was you?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Okay, finish, finish up, but not like in the.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And then that somebody's gonna have to since.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, finish, finish, finish.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They also found out that he had arrived by cab,
which would allow them to identify him. Through the cab company,
they were able to get his phone number and track
it back to a Thomas Frederick. They pull his ID
and it looks like the person in the video. He
is not, however, in the database for DNA. So now
they're going to have to get a sample the old
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fashioned way, some old dumb shoe detective work.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, So they begin surveillance of Thomas and are waiting
to get like a cigarette butt or a cup he
drinks from. But they need to be on the slide
because they really have nothing on him. I mean, he
was the last one seen with her from the video footage.
But other than that, you we don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
No, you can't. You can't go pick him up and
spook him because then he might leave, ye, So you got.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
To get the You gotta do this. So this took
a while, but they were finally able to get a
cigarette butt that he threw on the ground. They run
the DNA sample of Thomas against the DNA profile from
Adrian's apartment. Now the DNA profile Stue is a match
stop it, so they are now able to make an
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arrest for Adrian's murder. Now Thomas was confronted, so they
bring him in. He is confronted with the picture of Adrian,
and police you know, asked him about their interactions that night,
and he said that she bought him some drinks, which
Jay did not mention that at all, so they know
he's like lying. Yeah, he said they dance, which Jay
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did not say. He was just like a random guy
at the bar, like this was not some big you know,
them getting to know and be like, wow, we're going
to be friends from now on. He said, they dance
and then she bought him some more drinks and then
he left the club and went to work. And they're like,
wait a minute, wait a minute, you just left the
club and went straight to work after being out all
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night and he drinking. Yeah, and he said, I think
he worked in construction.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You can. You can go to work drunk and in construction.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yes, I used to work for the state or not
this state, another state for and that we had some
so we had some sketch some some.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
People that like to imbibe their office. But they weren't
out there actually doing dangerous work, were they.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yes, Oh Jesus, oh, let me tell you about the time.
The one guy was like, because we would, they would
just the state Louisiana would just contract all this stuff out.
So it was like the lowest bidder type situations, you know.
And we had this one guy and he was so stupid.
I caught him. He was like supposed to be spray
painting the like the sidewalk orange for like marking it
for construction or whatever, and he had the paint cander
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in the wrong way and I saw him. I caught him.
I saw him, and he was actually spraying the car.
It was a future roundabout and he's just.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Just just a bright orange line.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Across this white car.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah. Yeah, anyways, we used to. I used to go
to lunch with them sometimes and we'd always go to
they always would go to, uh, the Tilted Kilt, So
I'd go with them there.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well they got some good food there.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, they at least had some good food. It did
go out of business though, Okay, well the Tilted Killed
in Lafayette.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
No, that's still in business.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No it's not.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It was, No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It was the Tilted Kilt.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
No, you're thinking of the Twin Peaks.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Tilted Kilt naturally did not have good food, and the
girls weren't that great either, So I mean it was
a lose lose situation.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think of that Twin Peaks. They got that board, yeah,
lumberjack board or what I call it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, Twin Peaks is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah. Tilted Kill all right, terrible.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
So so those were my construction days. Like to know
why more about my work history, just like Thomas yep.
Uh So he's like, yeah, I go, I go to
work straight from the club all the time. And I
actually believe him. I probably he probably does go into work,
you know, hungover and stuff like that, or still slightly
slightly drunk. So this is when they know he's lying.
(33:25):
So they show him the security footage from that night
and he said that he did walk so he's changed.
He's like, okay, okay, I did walk out with her,
but after they went around the corner off the camera,
they of course went separate ways, you know, they did
not of course, yes, So they asked if he had
been to her house and he says that he So
he's like, okay, actually, I did go to our house.
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So as they're confronting him, he's like, okay, yeah, I
did do that. Yeah, we actually didn't just part at
the corner, and so he says, yeah, I did go
to our house. But he just doesn't remember, he said,
when he drinks, he just doesn't know. He just doesn't
know what he does. And so they tell him that
someone saw him running after her, and he says that
they were just running together, so casual, you know. They
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finally tell him that they know he killed her and
that they have his DNA and they know what happened,
and so he says, so he's like, okay, I need
to come up with the story for this. So he
says that he went to her apartment. She threw up, okay,
and then they had sex wow, and then all hell
broke loose, he said. So he said that she went
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and got a knife and then swung at him, and
that's when he got defensive and plunged the knife into her.
So that's what happened. So he was on the defense.
This was her fault.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Well that's what it sounds like according to his story.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, So he basically he just kept getting caught in
lies and as they confronted him, he just was trying
to change the story on the spot. And this is
where he landed that she tried to attack him.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So she threw up, They had consensual sex, and then
they got in a knife.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Fight and he stabbed her. Yeah that's what he's that's
what he's going to go with.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
The jury's really going to love her in this one. Yeah,
police charge him with first degree murder, and in twenty
fourteen he stands trial. The prosecution believes that he followed
her home and she tried to run ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, she probably, I think she They think she.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like chatted him up for a little while.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But it was like, you know, one of those things
like maybef I'm he's you know, because it was at
that point where she either had to make the decision
to keep walking home or go back into the club
with the establishments do and go find Jay. And unfortunately,
she maybe just thought he was just going to be
you know, she would have never thought he would take
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go to this level. So she probably thought, oh, he's
just trying to flirsh me. I'll just tell him, you know,
not right now, and he'll leave me alone. And then
it slowly real she probably realized, like, this is not
he's not leaving me alone. I should have went back
into that, went back in there and got Jay.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
He did make it into her home, and police believe
that she may have tried to be nice to him
to see if he would leave.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, because at this point they're just guessing, but they
do know there was no forced entry, so they're not
really sure what happened, but they know she wasn't come.
They know there was no consensual sex or anything like that.
It was she was maybe just let him in her
house because maybe he might have been closed and forced
his way in. They just don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
They believe that he grabbed a knife, forced himself upon
her in the bedroom, and then he makes her go
to the bathroom to get cleaned up so that there's
no DNA evidence basically.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, because he did cut the sheet so that they're
thinking that was his, that he was reasoning behind all.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Manning this, and something definitely takes a turn for the
worse in the bathroom because he stabs her in there.
I don't know if he was going to have her
get cleaned up and stab her regardless, or something else
happened that made him stab her. He then takes her vehicle,
parks it out by the CarMax, and flees. He is
found guilty of first degree murder and one count of
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grand theft auto.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
They did get him on the grand theft autos too.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, you got to add them yours if you can.
I mean, it's nice when they add him consecutively and
not concurrently. Yeah, it's like, if you're going to add
it concurrently, why would you even charge him with the
grand theft auto.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
They were unable to get him on the count of
sexual battery due to lack of evidence. He was sentenced
to life without parole.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah. I don't know what the lack of evidence. I
don't know if it's because he did have her cleanup
or what was going on. But they were able to
at least get him in with life without parole. So
he's he's gone forever. He is in Florida, so he
will not be getting out. They said, when you get
life without parole there, it's life without parol, life without parole.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, that's the state that is not No federal whatever
is going to get you off on that.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yep, all right, stud that is our case for this week.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Again, we may not be around for the next two weeks,
so blame, Stew.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Blame, that's what everybody always does.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yes, we are working on something for Patreon, I promise.
And then Stew, do you have a y'all need Jesus
of course not. Yes, this is what Alice said we
should be doing. They said that we should be doing
stories about maybe people tackling alligators or something. But we
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do that as well. But we just like to we
just like to keep it light. You know, it's a
heavy subject. Okay, it's a heavy subject. It can be, yes,
but yes, murder can be a heavy subject.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Stu.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
That's why we don't do anything about children. I'm just
not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
It's just not going to happen, you know, although you didn't.
You didn't always have that rule.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
No, I didn't always have that rule, but now that
I have children, No, well, I've just been like that,
or do you have your y'all need Jesus? Or do
you need it to kill some time? Probably bad word?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I have phrasing way to go.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, do you have it ready? Or no? No? Okay? Anyway,
So I've been like, so I'm on the ticker talks
or whatever, and I've just been down a rabbit hole
with that. I don't know if anyone else saw that
the three year old that drowned that the girl has
like millions of followers on TikTok anyways. So it's just
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been like depressing, you know, because we have almost our
son will be three years old next month, and then
we have a four year old, and then we have
a fifteen month old, and then the story about the
daycare with the three year old is traumatizing. I know,
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it's just like super depressing. So this is why we
don't do anything about children, because it's just like so
depressing to think about down I know, is this somber
enough for you, Alice? Anyway? So yeah, I've been on
the and then like this July thirteenth date, I watched
another this. So because of the three year old that
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drowned in the pool, there's been a lot of talk
about pool safety because that's actually the number one accidental
way that children one to four die is drowning. And
so I've just been like, we have a pool, and
so immediately when we moved in, there was nothing. There
was no barrier between like if they were to get
(40:32):
out the door. So that's why we immediately built the
screened in porch so that if they ever got out
the back door, there'd be another barrier. And then Stu
is now installing another barrier because I'm paranoid now they're.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
The next one.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, so we just want to make sure that there's
three barriers in place to get the pool. They're also
going to swim lessons. They we have alarms. We have
a different alarm on the back door so that if
it opens, were there. We put the extra lock on
the top. And then Stu's dad is coming to stay
while he's because he has when he has the eye surgery,
(41:11):
he can't actually pick up anything over ten pounds. Well,
the baby weighs twenty pounds, So his dad's coming to
stay with us, so that because it's for two weeks,
he can't pick anything up. So his Dad's going to say, Well,
then I'm paranoid because most of the time I read
these stories, it's like the grandparents or someone that's not
familiar with like that's like super vigilant on the pool
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comes out and leaves a door. So now Stu's installing
a lock with a pass code that you literally cannot
go out past the screened in porch unless you have
the code, and only myself and him will have the code.
So I'm just like paranoid as I should be, Stu,
as I should be.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yes, you got to be on your toes.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yes, yeah, you got to be their little tricky little things.
They're always trying.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
To get you every damn day. They're always trying to
find a new inventive wedding the emergency room.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, so did you find the y'all need Jesus.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
To I've had one for days.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Okay, well do you have it pulled up? Because I'm
still like just trying.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
To depress everybody about pool safety. You're depressing everybody, including me.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I'm trying to what if someone hasn't heard these things,
so they say, some of the things you should do
is obviously have a barrier to the pool. You don't
shouldn't just have your uh you know, you can't just
have like your back door and be like, oh, yeah,
we have a dead bolt, it's fine or whatever. No,
you need to have a second barrier, whether it be
a fence around the pool or something like. We built
the screened in port and then there's a second barrier.
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We're putting a third barrier. And by no means am
I saying that we're perfect or whatever, you know, But
I'm just saying what perfect. I'm just saying we do.
We added the additional alarm on the back door, the
additional lock that's higher up, the additional padlock that's going
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to go on the screened in porch for whenever we
have guests over, so they don't go out there and
accidentally leave something open. They're in swim lessons. They I've
I've terrified our four year old about the pool, though she's.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Like, well, you terrified about storms too. That's why I
had to go on there for the storm. I know.
I'm like I have to.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I'm a real I'm a worry wartz. I'm like, I'm
I don't I don't sugarcoat the things I tell them.
If you're if you fall in the pool and we're
not here and you don't have any your any floaties
or anything on like that, you are going to sink
to the bottom and you're going to die. And like,
I don't know if that's harsh, but she is terrified
of going into the pool. And yes, I made the
mistake of the stupid I didn't realize that the the
(43:44):
you know, they say now the puddle jumpers are a mistake.
So we're getting out of those. So we've been practicing swimming.
But I do make sure and take them off it
so they realize that if they do not have them on,
they are going to sink to the bottom of the pool.
I did not let them sink to the bottom. I'm
just saying that they're aware, and the four year old's
definitely aware. I've probably been a little too harsh about
the whole situation, but I want her to be taken seriously,
(44:06):
all right, So I've dug myself enough holes. I'm sure
people will be writing me tips and you're telling me
I don't know. People will probably be writing and tell
me how terrible a mother I am because I let
them use the puddle jumpers. I will not make the
miss I already told you the baby is not doing
anything like that because I made that mistake with those two.
And now they want them all the time. So now
(44:27):
we've had to We're having to get them comfortable without them. Yes,
but they're going to swim lessons, so somebody else should
be able to They listened so much better to other people. Yes,
all right, send your hate mil to stew.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yes please, I need more YEP coming to us from
kla Q. The Q Rocks el Paso's best rock. Not Florida,
not Florida. Is this the Dumbest Criminal in Texas? This
is by dub A G.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Definitely not Florida, published.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
May nine, twenty five. The Dumbest Criminal in Texas Award
for twenty twenty five may have already been awarded. If
this guy isn't the dumbest one, he's the absolute unluckiest one.
I'm not a master criminal or anything, but like most
Texas residents with a taste for the I don't know
what the mada is. I keep my eyes open and
(45:24):
I can spot unmarked police car from a mile away. Seriously,
they are generally not that hard to spot if you
know what to look for.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
This is what the guy is writing in his article, clearly.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Where he's working for El Paso.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, and thought I thought Midland was bad. I really
don't want to be. I guess if you're in al Paso.
Though you're on IE to ten, you can make a
quick getaway.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
East or west, you're still out in the middle of BFE. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Clearly this guy didn't know what to look for. Undercover
cops in Lake Way, Texas, were on a steakout hoping
to catch a car thief. Cameras with automated license plate
recognition abilities noted a stolen car had been abandoned near
downtown Austin. I don't know where we get Austin, and
they'l passo from and the popo were, oh because the
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radio stations and i'll passo car. Thief is in Austin.
I guess Lakeway's in Austin, I guess. And the popo
were trying to find the thief. How did the police
catch the thief? They found him or shall we say
he found them? When he tried to steal their unmarked
police car, not realizing that it was a cop car
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and also filled with cops. No less, he made an
ill fated attempt to jack the car. Realizing is a mistake,
he tried to make a run for it, but that
didn't go well. The police caught him, and you'll love
this Carol, They discovered that he had another stolen car
in his possession at the time that they busted him.
(47:03):
So guy in a in a stolen well because the
car thiefs in a stolen car going to uh steal
another car which happened to be an unmarked police car
full of cops.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Okay, I thought you were really gonna say something that
really pertained to me, Like he had a sewing machine
in the backseat or.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Something, and there was a brand new Singer sewing machine
in the in the.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Trophy stolen fils.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yes, well, this story goes on. It says other stupid
Texas criminals.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Let's save those for a rainy days too. I got
to get to ba.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Well, these are like two sentences. A Texas bank robber
honored the teller's request to show his ID before she
could give him any Okay, tad ah Way tad insult
the injury. He was trying to escape and he grabbed
a woman holding a baby to he uses a high
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stitch and she kicked his ass.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
While holding the baby.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
While holding the bit. A thief in Houston left his
cell phone and a traffic ticket with his name on
it at the scene of a robbery he had just committed.
So there's plenty of stupid criminals out there. Yes, my
usual little honey hole didn't have anything news where I
get all my dumb criminal news. That didn't have it
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sounds gross, uh huh, kind of like a honeypot.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Honey pot, what is that.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Poo bear?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
No, poo bear, I got a bee. Well that's what
they call the female spies, huh, intelligence gathering officers who
happened to be female from let say, in the Cold War,
the Kremlin, they would send these female spies to seduce, oh,
(49:02):
to get information.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yes, I'm sure they're.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Still doing that. Honey pots. They're Yes, they do, and
they're still called honeypots.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
And the China sends them, yeah, other foreign adversaries. Yes,
we're still using the age old trick, which is a
good looking woman.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I mean, the US government used to send me to
countries together information and such the manner as.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, yeah, I don't think so what all right? Well okay,
so on that note, we're done.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
So yeah, all right, that is terrible. Why are you
just rambling.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Because I'm tired. It's ten twenty at night. I understand
that that's not that late, but it is for me,
So I'm going to go to sleep. Actually I'm not.
I got to put this out because I told everybody
i'd get it out by tonight. So here we are.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Look at that. We're early tonight though we are usually
like it's eleven fifty nine when you're getting it out.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yep, okay, so Patreon check us out. Thank you everybody.
I would also like to say that Alicis said. Alice
said that we were to make a to make a buck?
Is you wanted to make.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yes? Why do you even tell me about I don't
even look at the reviews until I forgot all about it.
You mentioned him anyway, She said that we were just
trying to make a buck. Let me tell you, Alice,
ain't many bucks have been a making.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Okay, we are trying to make a buck.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, just just anyways, Instagram, Facebook, and then write us
a review five stars. Only somehow some.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
People Alice missed that memo.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
And I guess we will see you next time. By everyone,
say bye, ste.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
It's bad. I'm superstitios. By nothing else. It's working, and
my hand is green
Speaker 1 (51:07):
And hurting at our sickos
Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess and the dry
Crum podcast. I'm care here with Stu, says do Hey,
we are back this week and we are going to Florida, Florida. Sorry, guys,
I'm very tired and I'm very tired, so I hope
I have enthusiasm. We're supposed to record this last night,
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but I had a really bad headache and I went
to bed at like nine pm. It is now nine
to twenty four pm, and I would love to be
in bed right now. But Stu went to go lay
down with the children because we actually had a thunderstorm here.
So also, let me just say that I missed out
on going to sleep while it was raining, which never
happens here. I mean, it does happen, but usually there's
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like hell and tornado warns and bad things happening in
high winds. But the last few nights it has been
just a thunderstorm. Yes. Anyways, the children of our daughter
was afraid, so Stu had to go lay down in
there in their room while they went to sleep. And
then he fell asleep, and I'm texting, going where are
you are we? What are we doing? And then finally
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he appears and he's like, I don't know when she
fell asleep. I fell asleep. So anyway, so it's now
nine thirty and I'm tired, but we're here to record
this podcast, even though i'd like to say something tell
me from a couple episodes ago, Stu, I never read
the I never read the review where Stu said someone
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was complaining about the ads and I was like, well,
get over it, that's not Stu did not convey that
review very well. She wasn't complaining about the ads, complaining
about the placement of the ads.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I said there was nothing we could do it, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But there is something to do. She was saying that
that it's okay. So whatever they put the ads in,
they're supposed to find like natural pauses. So for instance,
like this is a pause, so they're supposed to find
like a natural pause. But I don't know, maybe they're
cutting into the middle.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I don't listen to this again. Like whatever is recorded,
we edit as we go, and I don't. I'm not
gonna listen to myself again. I just can't do it myself.
My my self esteem cannot handle listening to myself on
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And I gotta listen to you all the time, so
I'm definitely not gonna listen to you anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So I will make sure this time when they go out,
I will make sure it's not in the middle of
a sentence. Maybe find a natural break and put one in. So,
I mean, maybe we need to be thinking about that
when we're recording these. I do not know anyway, So
I would just like to apologize to whoever other of you.
Although I don't feel like we deserve three stars for that,
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just do five stars to say please. They're like, cause
them bitches ain't gonna look at it unless I give
them three stars. I gotta take a couple of stars
off for them to notice now. Alice, on the other hand,
she gave us a one star review because she said
she wrote a whole entire yes about how terrible we are.
Thank you, Alice, and we put a fair warning. We
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are inappropriate. We cuss and I laugh in uncomfortable situations.
We have talked about this. I don't know how to
handle uncomfortable situations except for joking about them. So that's
how we do. And we do try to not I
don't know, we try. Just never mind to we're never
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gonna change. I don't think we're disrespectful to the victims ever.
I think we laugh about other things in this stuff,
but we try not to have anything unless there's just
really something silly. Sometimes there's just really something silly. But
for the most part, no, we mainly make jokes about
like stuff going on with us that when we're doing
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reading the case, it reminds us of things going on.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But that means you have no empathy.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, I have no empathy. I'm just a terrible bitch.
So thank you, Alice. Appreciate you. Appreciate the review, and
I will work on the ad placement. I don't know
if I'm going to work on it this time, but
maybe next time I will so because it is late,
all right, Well, follow us on support us on Patreon.
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Really appreciate you. We are actually working on something for
the for if you're on Patreon. I'm not going to
promise anything because I've said this many at times, but
we actually have like a little thing we're planning. So
just to hint, we are watching the what's her name, Cherry,
Cherry Shappini, Scherry Pepinie.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was hungry? Is that what? Uh? That's what?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Monkey said Panini. No, who said Panini?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I did No.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She was upset with someone. Oh, she was calling nine
one one or yes, and she said, she said, my
name is Sherry Peppini. He says Cherry Panini.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
She's like, no, Puppini. Hey was hungry.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Anyways, we are watching that. So that's just a hint
and maybe something that might be discussed because you know,
Alice was like something silly. Well, there's something silly, Miss
Sherry Peppini. She's silly. So we're we are working on
something for a patron But Stu does have his eye
surgery coming up, so we may be not having episodes
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for the next two weeks. Probably not unless I get
going and get something in before before Sunday, but that's
probably not gonna happen, guys, So so might have a
two week break going into Stu's eye surgery. So yes,
thank you everyone on Patreon, falls, on Instagram, Facebook, and
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write a review that's not one star would be appreciated.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Thanks Alice.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yep, do not go ask Alice. That's a book, Stu,
go ask Alice.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Anyways, all right, so let's go ahead and get into
this week's episode. Out of Florida. Did I say that
right out of Florida? I could not think of fact
of the matter today?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I just said it earlier. I don't know if I
said it on the pod. I could not say think
of fact. I was like matter of matter of fact,
fact of the matter. They're both they're both options, right, yes, okay.
Adrian Robert was born January fourth, nineteen eighty three, to
Mark and Dolores Robert in Brunswick, Maine. Now Adrian, Maine,
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beautiful state.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Did like it?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yes, We went to Bayhaibah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It was lovely, and we went to.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What where's Stephen King's house? Was it Brunswick? No, someone knows.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We popped by in front of it and yeah, we went.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, they're like they're little like the red balloons from it.
People had put them all out on the on the
gates and everything. So very pretty, very pretty state.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Maine.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Now Adrian grew up in Maine with her parents and brother.
She attended leave It or Levitt High School and graduated
in two thousand and one. She would later go on
to attend the University of Maine in Augusta, and she
would graduate in two thousand and five. Now she decided
to go back to school. So she went in and
decided to try something completely different, and she moves to St. Petersburg,
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Florida to attend USF. Now, while living in Florida, Adrian
met Justin Pounderst.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Stuart.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now, why can't you just be mature? Now? Justin Pounders.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, she's just.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Even just in time or something. Uh. They hit it
off immediately. Justin thought Adriane was beautiful and funny and
they just had a really good time together. Now, Adriane
and Justin were progressing their relationship and they decided they
want to move in together. Well, Adrian was currently living
in Clearwater, Florida, in a townhouse with her friend Jay.
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So she's gonna need to, you know, move out today, roommate.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So they Justin and Adrian were excited to take this
next step in their relationship and they found a place.
So they start packing, getting ready to move on out
and move on in with each other. I'll do it, Stuart,
I was just having flat too late for you to
It's too late or is it?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is it ever too late? On July thirteenth, twenty twelve,
Adrian and Jay, who is the roommate, Kara.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yes, I wanted to just make sure everybody remembered.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That decided to have a last evening together. Kind of
is a farewell of all the time that they had
spent together, lived together. Justin was fine with this because
he needed to finish packing a few things and organizing
for the big move the next day. At around three
thirty four am, that's God, I can't even imagine being
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up that lie.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I know, nine thirty three, I mean, and I'm like Jesus,
I should already be asleep six hours by then.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, I would like to be asleep myself. But at
three thirty four am, which is late, well, we already
did early.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
What is that probably in our neighborhood? Yeah, someone probably
got shot. Get us out of.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Here now, like Jay did. We should probably call nine one,
but Jay calls nine to one one.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
This is what Alice is talking about, stew inappropriate Jos, No,
but you skipped a whole section though, Jay. Around three
thirty four am, Jay returns home and Adrian had headed
home before him.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, Adrian had headed home before j When Jay gets
there at three thirty four am, I think we've.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well established he arrived at three thirty four am Stewart.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I just wanted to get back to the dot. He
comes upon Adrian in lying on the bathroom floor and
she's not moving. She's covered in blood. He calls nine
to one one. He tells him that she's not breathing.
The nine to one one operator walks in through CPR
until help arrives, but it is too late. Adrian is
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pronounced dead at the scene. Police head to the scene
to process the town home for evidence, and when they
arrived they notice that there are no signs a forest entry.
The townhome has two stories. Adriane is lying in the
bathroom just off the stairs on the second floor. From
the initial scene, they can tell that Adrian has a
stab wound to the chest and that she has bled
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out all over the bathroom. There was a broken toilet
seat and blood spatter in the bathtub as if there
had been a struggle. Adrian was undressed and it appeared
that a sexual assault had been the motive. There was
blood prints. There were blood prints leading out of the
room and they would most likely be from the killer,
as Adrian would not have been able to leave the
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room after the stab wound. In her bedroom, there was
also a very odd clue. A large circular portion of
her bed sheet had been cut out, as if the purse.
Someone had removed it to take the evidence of a
possible rape. They collect whatever evidence they can from the
bed and during her autopsy they find bruising on her
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arms and other bruising indicating rape.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Now, when looking outside, they find Adriane's jeep was missing.
So she's a jeep girls doew, so automatically makes her
cooler than me other girls. I was a jeep girls,
stew you were.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I still have the jeep and now you're a mini.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I know how the mighty have fallen. I still have
the jeep though one day we'll reconnect. Now police immediately
assume that probably the killer had taken the jeep during
the getaway, because a lot of times that the killer
or someone who does something robs someone, you know they're
going to take their car. So they canvassed the neighborhood
and they just start asking around to see if anybody
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saw anything suspicious or anything like that. They start by
speaking to Jay and he walks them through their night
and he said that they headed to a place called
Diamond Dolls around ten thirty PM strip club. It is
a strip club, so this was Police were initially like, oh,
you guys were going to a strip club, you know,
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because I don't know a lot of women that I
have been to a strip club. But that's not something
that I would have you now, Stuart, we've been to
strip clubs together very infrequently, and it was in New Orleans.
Oh yeah, We've been to other things in New Orleans
that were not good anyways, So you know, police were like, oh,
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this this little weird. But Jay actually he's like, yeah,
this is actually something we do all the time because
it's within walking distance of their house. But anyways, I
looked up Diamond Dolls is still a round stew and
it was rated like number one gentlemen's club, like seven
years in a row or something, So we.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Need to go do some researchers what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, And it's been around since like nineteen eighty three,
so Diamond Dolls is still going strong. So yeah, So
but police with her going to this strip club, they
are concerned about the possibly the different types of people
Adrian might encounter. There could be plenty of suspects there.
I mean, you are going to a mainly men or
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there mainly men that want to be with women, and
now we have this sexually motivated crime, so you know,
the suspect list could be big. Now. Jay says they
were approached by a because they start asking, you know,
did anything weird happen? Did you talk to anybody? And
he does say that a man approached them while they
were sitting at the bar, and the police asked him
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to describe and he said he was an African American.
He had a goateee, he was medium billed and not
too tall. He said that he'd never, you know, met
this person before. He didn't even get the guy's name.
It seemed like they were Jay and Adrian were sitting
at the bar and this guy, you know, you know,
someone will just kind of come up and sit next
next to you and just kind of start chatting you
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up or whatever at the bar, like getting the feelers
out and stuff like that. So it seemed like that
was more. He wasn't like joining their group or anything
like that. So Adrian decided that she wanted to go
ahead and leave since she was moving the next morning.
She needed to get home, get a good night's sleep
and everything like that. Well, Jay he wasn't ready to go,
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so he stays a little longer. Well, after Adrian leaves,
the man sitting with them asked, you know, asked Jay
where she went, and he told him, well, she had
to go, and then that's when the man got up
and left, and he Jay just thought he was hanging
around him because he thought he might.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Be able to, you know, get it out or something.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, he was probably hitting on or hoping to you know,
hit on Adrian. And then she left and then he's like, oh, yeah,
she left, So then he's probably thinking, oh. The guy
just is like, Okay, well, I'm not gonna sit around
here with this this dude I don't know at this
strip club. And so he didn't really think it wasn't
anything suspicious or anything like that, but it was something
that he you know, remembered happening. So police need to
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verify Jay's story, so they request footage from the Diamond
Dolls establishment.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
STU. I need to request some footage from.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
There, and there was several that needed to go do
undercover work to see.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Meanwhile, police are able to find her jeep pretty quickly.
It's only about three or four blocks away. It was
still running and the lights were on. The jeep was
parked near a carmac, so police head to the business
to see if they caught anything on a camera. They
have him playback everything starting with the evening of July thirteenth,
and at around three point thirty eight am, they see
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a figure walking through the parking lot. It appears to
be a black mail with long hair, a baseball hat,
and he was wearing shorts. The person was also walking
away from where the jeep was found. So this was
their best lead so far.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, it wasn't. They didn't see him. Actually, this was
just in the Carmacks parking lot, so it's just going across.
They don't actually can't actually see the jeep in it,
but it's just the jeep was over there or where
they would he would have left from.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yes, and they see him walking away from that general area.
Police didn't have any other camera angle showing him leaving
the jeep. They didn't show him coming in, leaving anything.
They don't know where he went next or anything like that.
They continue to ask around the neighborhood when they find
someone who says that they saw Adrian and a black
male running down the road late at night. It seemed
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odd to them because Adrian was wearing a dress and
carrying her shoes, so it's not like they were out
there working out there we're doing a workout at four
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah it was. It was in the middle of the
night and she's running with her shoes in her hand
to wear her dress. So now they've got the the
the description of the person in the CarMax parking lot
of the running down. That's all they have is just
very general descriptions of people. So it's not their best
bet right now is the one walking in the Carmacks
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parking lot, because why are you walking in a CarMax
parking lot at three thirty eight am, you know, four hours? No,
it's like, what are you doing? You're not looking for
that mini van like we were. We've got That's where
we got our minivan was CarMax. Because when you have
three small chill LDN and a car that really doesn't
fit all three.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, I went through this last week with the suburban
and all.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, I'm saying it's very difficult to go car searching.
And where we are is in a freaking you know,
cultural desert, not economic desert, though it's.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Not a cultural desert. There's lots of things to do here.
There's a theater down the road.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm sorry, a cultural wasteland.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, that would be the same thing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, we are out here in the middle of nowhere,
so everything is limited and everything's more expensive because it's
takes so long to get anything else. So any of
the good cars, the good deals are gone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, it's just like living in Hawaiian.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, it's just like living in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Stud hard to get things and they're more expensive.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, yes, it's just a little bit different views, you know,
a little bit. Yeah. Anyway, so we used CarMax because
they'll ship if it's within a certain distance, they'll ship
a car from another CarMax and you can go test
drive it. Now. Now, don't get any ideas though we
didn't have a CarMax here though, we're not that upit.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Y up.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
We had to drive an hour up to Lubbock, hour
and a half up to Lubbock, which does have a CarMax.
And then so they shipped this car from Dallas, Houston, Houston,
they shifted up there. I think, No, it was Dallas.
They shipped it from Dallas, which is five hours away. Yeah,
they shipped it here, it arrived, we drove went up there,
and then we had to make a decision if we
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wanted it, and we bought it. That's that, and then
it got a hell damage a month or a week
or two late.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You told the exact same story last up.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
No, I didn't. I was talking about how I was
talking about the differences between the mini vans. This is
how we got the Mini van and in the CarMax.
I know I didn't mention CarMax last week because we
didn't have a CarMax in the episode. We had a Walmart. Okay,
I'm sure I talked about a Walmart. You're wrong, But okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The reviews will tell us, all sure.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'm sure Alice will let us.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Know, because God knows you won't go back and listen
to either.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I can't do that to myself, Stuart, I don't. I
don't have a high enough self esteem for that. All right,
So please get the video footage from Diamond Dolls. And
they were able to verify that. Adrian and Jay arrived
at ten thirty pm. Like Jay said, you know, everything's
the up and up. They didn't really suspect Jay, you know,
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he wasn't. On the of course they had to question him,
but he wasn't. Nothing he did made them think that
he was, you know, the guy, so they are also
able to verify that. So whenever they went into the
strip club, they were all happy, laughing like everything was great,
and they were also able to verify that. He left
around three am alone. Soft, No, he left alone. No, Stuart, don't,
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don't try to correct me, like you know this more
than I do. There's our neighbors and they're freaking god.
Why why are they like this?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Okay, So he leaves at three am to walk home
and they see him leaving on camera by himself. Now
they rewind back in around one thirty eight eight am,
they see Adrian leave the club. She has but she
has her shoes on because you know, the person said
they saw her running holding her shoes. Well, in this one,
she has her shoes on and she's walking out alone.
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Doesn't seem rushed, doesn't seem fearful, just very relaxed, leaving
out of the establishment. Stew Why do I feel like
if it's if it's a strip clube, bunny, then call
it an establishment.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Let's say the club the clurb in a clurb.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
We all, fam, you still don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I said it the clurb, We all.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Fam, I have no clue. Just moving, are you racist?
Shut up and read on?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, So just four seconds, like literally right after she
leaves the the establishment, just four seconds later, they see
a man leave behind Adrian and he starts running after her.
Because they got it. They got a door camera that
comes in and then they got the one out in
the parking lot, so they see him approach her in
that parking lot. He hands her like a black sweater
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or shawl or something that she had left behind, and
they converse a little bit. And so this is completely normal.
Like you they're thinking, Okay, she left her sweater, he's
running it out to her, so normally you would think.
So the next thing you would expect was he goes
back into the establishment, the establishment, and she continues on
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her way. However, they both turn in the direction of
her town home and they start walking. So they get
with Jay and they show him this footage and they
do confirm with him that the man following her in
the parking lot was the man sitting with them at
the establishment at the bar. Now, however, they compare the
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video footage of the man in the CarMax parking lot,
and it's not the same man. This is that was
just some random guy that almost got in trouble because
he's walking in a CarMax. I mean that, I mean
I could see how like that would be their number
one suspect. So if they didn't have this video footage,
that poor man would have had his like stuff blasted
all over there.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yes, would have been flipped upside down. So I figured
out it was not like I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Never walking in a CarMax party at three point thirty
in the morning. You know what they say, only hospital
gels and legs are open past you just go home.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Why would you go home if there's a hospital open?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
All right, So the man in the CarMax parking lot
is eliminated as a suspect, and the person who moved
her jeep must have walked in a different direction, did
not walk towards the CarMax, must have headed off where
there weren't any cameras.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Police received the forensics from the town home and they
found DNA on the sheets near where it was cut
out on Adrian's hands and on her body.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, the person who cut out the killer who cut
out the the you know portion of the sheets as
an idiot, like they were.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Going to get why would you cut the sheet and
just take taking the whole thing off?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I know, it was just like stupid idiot.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
They run the DNA through the data base and they
wait for results. Meanwhile, they continue to track down the
movements of the man that night. He arrived at the
club at around five forty five, and they were able
to get a pretty good video of his face.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, because this was now during at that time, it
was daylight hours, they had to go back pretty far
because I mean that's pretty early. I feel like to
be at the establishment stew five.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It all depends.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They're not even dancing at that time, are they?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, they are, They're dancing at lunchtime. Did I tell
you about but she don't want to be there for
the lunch crew? Did I tell you.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
About the time that our car broke down and that
we had to go into a strip club to get
a help. And I was a little I was a
little girl.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm sure you did.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
We had gone to a softball tournament and our car
broke down and the only thing close by was the
Strip club, but it was daytime hours and they only
operated at night, so it was closed. But I remember
the guy he let he you know, it was like
my dad and my mommy. You know, they're like super
super religious, my dad especially anyway, so we go in
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here and they were like, oh, yeah, you guys could
come around this way. And then I remember him going
in the room that they had us in and there
was like pictures of naked women. So it's like turn
her around the pictures because you know, for me being
in there was like I mean I was probably like
ten or eleven or something like that. I still remember
the whole thing. And then the other time we ran
(25:53):
into a sketchy situation was, uh so my grandpa worked
for the Ford glass Plant, so like the Ford vehicles,
and he used to make glass. He worked at the
glass plant. He was like really good at making glass,
and so he the company Ford would give him these
like reward points, and so we got we were we
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were pretty broke growing up, like we we we was
broke sto okay anyway, so he had all these points
to go to this like super fancy hotel in New Orleans,
like the I can't the Continental or something like that
super fancy hotel. So here we are, you know, the
Beverly Hillbillies rolling up in our on our old blue suburban.
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My mom of course packed the cooler, so we're bringing
the cooler up. There's like doormen and everything like this
is a fancy They're like, would you like would you
like valet parking? No?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, no no.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So we're rolling up and it's like that that I
still remember. The steps were like red and they were
like the felt or felt not velvet or whatever. And
we're rolling up in our little igle cooler with our stuff. Anyways,
that's not the point. That's we can go on line.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I don't know. I don't know why you don't walk
like watching the bevery Hillbilly is when it seems like
you lived that life. Get some pie some steve. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So anyways, the whole point was this. So we went
to New Orleans. So again my parents were my dad
was super religious, my mom you know Christian everything that
we go walk down Bourbon Street and my parents didn't
really understand I guess like Bourbon Street and so we
were walking by and we were my brothers were like looking,
we were looking at this like fish tank or whatever,
(27:35):
and my mom's like, oh cool, it's like a fish tank.
And then this lady like swims by and she's topless,
she's a topless mermaid, you know, at the and they're like,
oh god it. So we had to get off three. Anyways,
So those were my two young interactions with strip clubs.
I don't think I had anymore until you were all
(27:56):
back to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Anyways, okay, so where.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Where was I that he was there at the strip
club them?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Because you said it wasn't open at that time, and
I was trying to tell you that some of them
are closed at that time.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm telling you it could have been opened at that time. Okay, anyway,
been opened at lunch. They have a lot of I.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Feel like they probably closed between like two and two
and six or whatever, like some restaurants, you know, to
clean up. Yeah. Ew the Diamond Dolls. I did look
at their website. They do have those rooms, yeah, for
private They said contact them for a private thing, but
I did.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
There is no contact allowed in the in the champagne room.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, they were not accepting their form that they were
using though to accept applications had been had reached the
max quota and they hadn't reset it. So I don't
know if they're not looking for girls right now or
what's going on? Call to find out, all right, So
they were able to find him at five forty five, again,
pretty good video of him coming in. Was it you were?
(29:00):
Are you telling this part?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Or was I you were? No? You were this? Was you?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Okay, finish, finish up, but not like in the.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And then that somebody's gonna have to since.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, finish, finish, finish.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They also found out that he had arrived by cab,
which would allow them to identify him. Through the cab company,
they were able to get his phone number and track
it back to a Thomas Frederick. They pull his ID
and it looks like the person in the video. He
is not, however, in the database for DNA. So now
they're going to have to get a sample the old
(29:38):
fashioned way, some old dumb shoe detective work.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, So they begin surveillance of Thomas and are waiting
to get like a cigarette butt or a cup he
drinks from. But they need to be on the slide
because they really have nothing on him. I mean, he
was the last one seen with her from the video footage.
But other than that, you we don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
No, you can't. You can't go pick him up and
spook him because then he might leave, ye, So you got.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
To get the You gotta do this. So this took
a while, but they were finally able to get a
cigarette butt that he threw on the ground. They run
the DNA sample of Thomas against the DNA profile from
Adrian's apartment. Now the DNA profile Stue is a match
stop it, so they are now able to make an
(30:26):
arrest for Adrian's murder. Now Thomas was confronted, so they
bring him in. He is confronted with the picture of Adrian,
and police you know, asked him about their interactions that night,
and he said that she bought him some drinks, which
Jay did not mention that at all, so they know
he's like lying. Yeah, he said they dance, which Jay
(30:47):
did not say. He was just like a random guy
at the bar, like this was not some big you know,
them getting to know and be like, wow, we're going
to be friends from now on. He said, they dance
and then she bought him some more drinks and then
he left the club and went to work. And they're like,
wait a minute, wait a minute, you just left the
club and went straight to work after being out all
(31:09):
night and he drinking. Yeah, and he said, I think
he worked in construction.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You can. You can go to work drunk and in construction.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yes, I used to work for the state or not
this state, another state for and that we had some
so we had some sketch some some.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
People that like to imbibe their office. But they weren't
out there actually doing dangerous work, were they.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yes, Oh Jesus, oh, let me tell you about the time.
The one guy was like, because we would, they would
just the state Louisiana would just contract all this stuff out.
So it was like the lowest bidder type situations, you know.
And we had this one guy and he was so stupid.
I caught him. He was like supposed to be spray
painting the like the sidewalk orange for like marking it
for construction or whatever, and he had the paint cander
(31:56):
in the wrong way and I saw him. I caught him.
I saw him, and he was actually spraying the car.
It was a future roundabout and he's just.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Just just a bright orange line.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Across this white car.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah. Yeah, anyways, we used to. I used to go
to lunch with them sometimes and we'd always go to
they always would go to, uh, the Tilted Kilt, So
I'd go with them there.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well they got some good food there.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, they at least had some good food. It did
go out of business though, Okay, well the Tilted Killed
in Lafayette.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
No, that's still in business.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
No it's not.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It was, No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It was the Tilted Kilt.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
No, you're thinking of the Twin Peaks.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Tilted Kilt naturally did not have good food, and the
girls weren't that great either, So I mean it was
a lose lose situation.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think of that Twin Peaks. They got that board, yeah,
lumberjack board or what I call it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, Twin Peaks is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah. Tilted Kill all right, terrible.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
So so those were my construction days. Like to know
why more about my work history, just like Thomas yep.
Uh So he's like, yeah, I go, I go to
work straight from the club all the time. And I
actually believe him. I probably he probably does go into work,
you know, hungover and stuff like that, or still slightly
slightly drunk. So this is when they know he's lying.
(33:25):
So they show him the security footage from that night
and he said that he did walk so he's changed.
He's like, okay, okay, I did walk out with her,
but after they went around the corner off the camera,
they of course went separate ways, you know, they did
not of course, yes, So they asked if he had
been to her house and he says that he So
he's like, okay, actually, I did go to our house.
(33:47):
So as they're confronting him, he's like, okay, yeah, I
did do that. Yeah, we actually didn't just part at
the corner, and so he says, yeah, I did go
to our house. But he just doesn't remember, he said,
when he drinks, he just doesn't know. He just doesn't
know what he does. And so they tell him that
someone saw him running after her, and he says that
they were just running together, so casual, you know. They
(34:08):
finally tell him that they know he killed her and
that they have his DNA and they know what happened,
and so he says, so he's like, okay, I need
to come up with the story for this. So he
says that he went to her apartment. She threw up, okay,
and then they had sex wow, and then all hell
broke loose, he said. So he said that she went
(34:29):
and got a knife and then swung at him, and
that's when he got defensive and plunged the knife into her.
So that's what happened. So he was on the defense.
This was her fault.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Well that's what it sounds like according to his story.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, So he basically he just kept getting caught in
lies and as they confronted him, he just was trying
to change the story on the spot. And this is
where he landed that she tried to attack him.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So she threw up, They had consensual sex, and then
they got in a knife.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Fight and he stabbed her. Yeah that's what he's that's
what he's going to go with.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
The jury's really going to love her in this one. Yeah,
police charge him with first degree murder, and in twenty
fourteen he stands trial. The prosecution believes that he followed
her home and she tried to run ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, she probably, I think she They think she.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like chatted him up for a little while.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But it was like, you know, one of those things
like maybef I'm he's you know, because it was at
that point where she either had to make the decision
to keep walking home or go back into the club
with the establishments do and go find Jay. And unfortunately,
she maybe just thought he was just going to be
you know, she would have never thought he would take
(35:41):
go to this level. So she probably thought, oh, he's
just trying to flirsh me. I'll just tell him, you know,
not right now, and he'll leave me alone. And then
it slowly real she probably realized, like, this is not
he's not leaving me alone. I should have went back
into that, went back in there and got Jay.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
He did make it into her home, and police believe
that she may have tried to be nice to him
to see if he would leave.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, because at this point they're just guessing, but they
do know there was no forced entry, so they're not
really sure what happened, but they know she wasn't come.
They know there was no consensual sex or anything like that.
It was she was maybe just let him in her
house because maybe he might have been closed and forced
his way in. They just don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
They believe that he grabbed a knife, forced himself upon
her in the bedroom, and then he makes her go
to the bathroom to get cleaned up so that there's
no DNA evidence basically.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, because he did cut the sheet so that they're
thinking that was his, that he was reasoning behind all.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Manning this, and something definitely takes a turn for the
worse in the bathroom because he stabs her in there.
I don't know if he was going to have her
get cleaned up and stab her regardless, or something else
happened that made him stab her. He then takes her vehicle,
parks it out by the CarMax, and flees. He is
found guilty of first degree murder and one count of
(37:01):
grand theft auto.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
They did get him on the grand theft autos too.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, you got to add them yours if you can.
I mean, it's nice when they add him consecutively and
not concurrently. Yeah, it's like, if you're going to add
it concurrently, why would you even charge him with the
grand theft auto.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
They were unable to get him on the count of
sexual battery due to lack of evidence. He was sentenced
to life without parole.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah. I don't know what the lack of evidence. I
don't know if it's because he did have her cleanup
or what was going on. But they were able to
at least get him in with life without parole. So
he's he's gone forever. He is in Florida, so he
will not be getting out. They said, when you get
life without parole there, it's life without parol, life without parole.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, that's the state that is not No federal whatever
is going to get you off on that.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yep, all right, stud that is our case for this week.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Again, we may not be around for the next two weeks,
so blame, Stew.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Blame, that's what everybody always does.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yes, we are working on something for Patreon, I promise.
And then Stew, do you have a y'all need Jesus
of course not. Yes, this is what Alice said we
should be doing. They said that we should be doing
stories about maybe people tackling alligators or something. But we
(38:25):
do that as well. But we just like to we
just like to keep it light. You know, it's a
heavy subject. Okay, it's a heavy subject. It can be, yes,
but yes, murder can be a heavy subject.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Stu.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
That's why we don't do anything about children. I'm just
not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
It's just not going to happen, you know, although you didn't.
You didn't always have that rule.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
No, I didn't always have that rule, but now that
I have children, No, well, I've just been like that,
or do you have your y'all need Jesus? Or do
you need it to kill some time? Probably bad word?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I have phrasing way to go.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, do you have it ready? Or no? No? Okay? Anyway,
So I've been like, so I'm on the ticker talks
or whatever, and I've just been down a rabbit hole
with that. I don't know if anyone else saw that
the three year old that drowned that the girl has
like millions of followers on TikTok anyways. So it's just
(39:26):
been like depressing, you know, because we have almost our
son will be three years old next month, and then
we have a four year old, and then we have
a fifteen month old, and then the story about the
daycare with the three year old is traumatizing. I know,
(39:46):
it's just like super depressing. So this is why we
don't do anything about children, because it's just like so
depressing to think about down I know, is this somber
enough for you, Alice? Anyway? So yeah, I've been on
the and then like this July thirteenth date, I watched
another this. So because of the three year old that
(40:10):
drowned in the pool, there's been a lot of talk
about pool safety because that's actually the number one accidental
way that children one to four die is drowning. And
so I've just been like, we have a pool, and
so immediately when we moved in, there was nothing. There
was no barrier between like if they were to get
(40:32):
out the door. So that's why we immediately built the
screened in porch so that if they ever got out
the back door, there'd be another barrier. And then Stu
is now installing another barrier because I'm paranoid now they're.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
The next one.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, so we just want to make sure that there's
three barriers in place to get the pool. They're also
going to swim lessons. They we have alarms. We have
a different alarm on the back door so that if
it opens, were there. We put the extra lock on
the top. And then Stu's dad is coming to stay
while he's because he has when he has the eye surgery,
(41:11):
he can't actually pick up anything over ten pounds. Well,
the baby weighs twenty pounds, So his dad's coming to
stay with us, so that because it's for two weeks,
he can't pick anything up. So his Dad's going to say, Well,
then I'm paranoid because most of the time I read
these stories, it's like the grandparents or someone that's not
familiar with like that's like super vigilant on the pool
(41:32):
comes out and leaves a door. So now Stu's installing
a lock with a pass code that you literally cannot
go out past the screened in porch unless you have
the code, and only myself and him will have the code.
So I'm just like paranoid as I should be, Stu,
as I should be.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yes, you got to be on your toes.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yes, yeah, you got to be their little tricky little things.
They're always trying.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
To get you every damn day. They're always trying to
find a new inventive wedding the emergency room.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, so did you find the y'all need Jesus.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
To I've had one for days.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Okay, well do you have it pulled up? Because I'm
still like just trying.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
To depress everybody about pool safety. You're depressing everybody, including me.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I'm trying to what if someone hasn't heard these things,
so they say, some of the things you should do
is obviously have a barrier to the pool. You don't
shouldn't just have your uh you know, you can't just
have like your back door and be like, oh, yeah,
we have a dead bolt, it's fine or whatever. No,
you need to have a second barrier, whether it be
a fence around the pool or something like. We built
the screened in port and then there's a second barrier.
(42:39):
We're putting a third barrier. And by no means am
I saying that we're perfect or whatever, you know, But
I'm just saying what perfect. I'm just saying we do.
We added the additional alarm on the back door, the
additional lock that's higher up, the additional padlock that's going
(43:00):
to go on the screened in porch for whenever we
have guests over, so they don't go out there and
accidentally leave something open. They're in swim lessons. They I've
I've terrified our four year old about the pool, though she's.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Like, well, you terrified about storms too. That's why I
had to go on there for the storm. I know.
I'm like I have to.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I'm a real I'm a worry wartz. I'm like, I'm
I don't I don't sugarcoat the things I tell them.
If you're if you fall in the pool and we're
not here and you don't have any your any floaties
or anything on like that, you are going to sink
to the bottom and you're going to die. And like,
I don't know if that's harsh, but she is terrified
of going into the pool. And yes, I made the
mistake of the stupid I didn't realize that the the
(43:44):
you know, they say now the puddle jumpers are a mistake.
So we're getting out of those. So we've been practicing swimming.
But I do make sure and take them off it
so they realize that if they do not have them on,
they are going to sink to the bottom of the pool.
I did not let them sink to the bottom. I'm
just saying that they're aware, and the four year old's
definitely aware. I've probably been a little too harsh about
the whole situation, but I want her to be taken seriously,
(44:06):
all right, So I've dug myself enough holes. I'm sure
people will be writing me tips and you're telling me
I don't know. People will probably be writing and tell
me how terrible a mother I am because I let
them use the puddle jumpers. I will not make the
miss I already told you the baby is not doing
anything like that because I made that mistake with those two.
And now they want them all the time. So now
(44:27):
we've had to We're having to get them comfortable without them. Yes,
but they're going to swim lessons, so somebody else should
be able to They listened so much better to other people. Yes,
all right, send your hate mil to stew.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yes please, I need more YEP coming to us from
kla Q. The Q Rocks el Paso's best rock. Not Florida,
not Florida. Is this the Dumbest Criminal in Texas? This
is by dub A G.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Definitely not Florida, published.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
May nine, twenty five. The Dumbest Criminal in Texas Award
for twenty twenty five may have already been awarded. If
this guy isn't the dumbest one, he's the absolute unluckiest one.
I'm not a master criminal or anything, but like most
Texas residents with a taste for the I don't know
what the mada is. I keep my eyes open and
(45:24):
I can spot unmarked police car from a mile away. Seriously,
they are generally not that hard to spot if you
know what to look for.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
This is what the guy is writing in his article, clearly.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Where he's working for El Paso.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, and thought I thought Midland was bad. I really
don't want to be. I guess if you're in al Paso.
Though you're on IE to ten, you can make a
quick getaway.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
East or west, you're still out in the middle of BFE. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Clearly this guy didn't know what to look for. Undercover
cops in Lake Way, Texas, were on a steakout hoping
to catch a car thief. Cameras with automated license plate
recognition abilities noted a stolen car had been abandoned near
downtown Austin. I don't know where we get Austin, and
they'l passo from and the popo were, oh because the
(46:17):
radio stations and i'll passo car. Thief is in Austin.
I guess Lakeway's in Austin, I guess. And the popo
were trying to find the thief. How did the police
catch the thief? They found him or shall we say
he found them? When he tried to steal their unmarked
police car, not realizing that it was a cop car
(46:41):
and also filled with cops. No less, he made an
ill fated attempt to jack the car. Realizing is a mistake,
he tried to make a run for it, but that
didn't go well. The police caught him, and you'll love
this Carol, They discovered that he had another stolen car
in his possession at the time that they busted him.
(47:03):
So guy in a in a stolen well because the
car thiefs in a stolen car going to uh steal
another car which happened to be an unmarked police car
full of cops.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Okay, I thought you were really gonna say something that
really pertained to me, Like he had a sewing machine
in the backseat or.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Something, and there was a brand new Singer sewing machine
in the in the.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Trophy stolen fils.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yes, well, this story goes on. It says other stupid
Texas criminals.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Let's save those for a rainy days too. I got
to get to ba.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Well, these are like two sentences. A Texas bank robber
honored the teller's request to show his ID before she
could give him any Okay, tad ah Way tad insult
the injury. He was trying to escape and he grabbed
a woman holding a baby to he uses a high
(48:00):
stitch and she kicked his ass.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
While holding the baby.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
While holding the bit. A thief in Houston left his
cell phone and a traffic ticket with his name on
it at the scene of a robbery he had just committed.
So there's plenty of stupid criminals out there. Yes, my
usual little honey hole didn't have anything news where I
get all my dumb criminal news. That didn't have it
(48:32):
sounds gross, uh huh, kind of like a honeypot.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Honey pot, what is that.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Poo bear?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
No, poo bear, I got a bee. Well that's what
they call the female spies, huh, intelligence gathering officers who
happened to be female from let say, in the Cold War,
the Kremlin, they would send these female spies to seduce, oh,
(49:02):
to get information.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yes, I'm sure they're.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Still doing that. Honey pots. They're Yes, they do, and
they're still called honeypots.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
And the China sends them, yeah, other foreign adversaries. Yes,
we're still using the age old trick, which is a
good looking woman.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I mean, the US government used to send me to
countries together information and such the manner as.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, yeah, I don't think so what all right? Well okay,
so on that note, we're done.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
So yeah, all right, that is terrible. Why are you
just rambling.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Because I'm tired. It's ten twenty at night. I understand
that that's not that late, but it is for me,
So I'm going to go to sleep. Actually I'm not.
I got to put this out because I told everybody
i'd get it out by tonight. So here we are.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Look at that. We're early tonight though we are usually
like it's eleven fifty nine when you're getting it out.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yep, okay, so Patreon check us out. Thank you everybody.
I would also like to say that Alicis said. Alice
said that we were to make a to make a buck?
Is you wanted to make.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yes? Why do you even tell me about I don't
even look at the reviews until I forgot all about it.
You mentioned him anyway, She said that we were just
trying to make a buck. Let me tell you, Alice,
ain't many bucks have been a making.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Okay, we are trying to make a buck.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, just just anyways, Instagram, Facebook, and then write us
a review five stars. Only somehow some.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
People Alice missed that memo.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
And I guess we will see you next time. By everyone,
say bye, ste.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
It's bad. I'm superstitios. By nothing else. It's working, and
my hand is green
Speaker 1 (51:07):
And hurting at our sickos
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