148. [Georgia] Patrice Endres

In 2004, Patrice Endres vanishes from her salon in Cumming, Georgia. With little evidence at the scene and no suspects, the case would quickly go cold. Almost two years later her remains are found but it does not bring the police any closer to finding her killer. Join us while we discuss our theories and by theories, I mean the creepy husband definitely did it.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess and the True
Grump Podcast. I don't care, here's to say.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Study.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, we are back this week and we are
going back to Georgia again to do and I will
warn everybody this one is unsolved. However, by the end,
we all know who did it. Okay, I feel like
we do.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I feel like they threw out a couple other suspects
that could be credible, but I.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Feel like I know who did it some way or another. Yeah,
somehow he magiced.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
His ass to the top of the suspect lest yes.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah. So anyway, so this week we did another Shoot
the Pooh episode, so all the Patreons we talked about
the Gilg Beach Killer House of Secrets, which mainly focused
on the family, the wife, the kids, that whole situation
with the Long Island serial killer. So if you're a
Patreon go check that one out. We just released that

(01:17):
one on Monday, No Tuesday, because we had family and
were late.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We're late as we are with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
But next week first Shoot the Pooh, be prepared because
we are going to be. We watched The Earth, I
watched the Amy Bradley Is Missing documentary on Netflix, the
one where the girl disappeared off the cruise ship in
nineteen ninety eight. Anyways, I have some thoughts, so do Yeah. Yes,
so we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, we're going to talk about that, and then we're
going to talk about this. The guy that died with
the Annabelle. I don't know anything about it because I
didn't read. I just read ahead of So Stu's gonna
read more into it and we're gonna talk about that
as well. So if you are a Patreon, go watch
those things or Dennis. Okay, Stu. Nobody knows what that is.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well, if they listen to our thing, then they know what.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
We didn't even hardly talk about it.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
We already said it once.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
No, you just keep saying that nobody knows. It's from
the wild and weird and wonder whatever. The Whites of
West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
From twenty ten documentary.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes, I had ste watch it, and now I regret
doing that because it's all your fault. It's turned into
his whole personality at this point.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, we've talked about it before because oh Sue.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Vib we did not talk about it before, not on
the regular podcast. Anyways, So so we appreciate all the patreons.
We got a couple new ones this week, so we
really appreciate you guys. Rate review, subscribe, Facebook, Instagram, the TikTok.
The TikTok keeps the ticket talking in and everything. I

(02:52):
recommend documentaries on there and different true crime shows, so
I put those on. I post those on Instagram and
Facebook as well. But I think that that's everything. Oh,
I have a question for everybody. Okay, Well, when this
bothers me every day and I need a consensus on
what I should do. So where I work, we have

(03:15):
security personnel that sit at the front. You know, you
come in and there's two of them sitting at the
front desk, sometimes three of them, And then you walk
by in the morning and you scan your badge in
and you go in. You don't have to talk to
him if you have a badge or whatever. You know,
same thing when you're leaving, you just leave and you exit.
So this is my conundrum. If I'm on the fence,

(03:39):
do I say good morning and goodbye to these people
every single day?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Did they tell you good morning?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Sometimes? But then sometimes I don't. Then I'm like, should
I be saying good morning to them.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Do they tell you good morning? Though?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
If they say good morning, then I say it, But
then sometimes I feel pressure to say it first. But
see here, here's where I am.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Or them make an eye contact, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I try not to make eye contact because I start
getting real stressed out about it. It's every single day going.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well if you make automatically, yes, yes, okay, but.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But listen to where I'm coming from. It's not about
me being I don't mind saying good morning or goodbye
to them. I'm trying to make them more comfortable because
if I sat there every day and there's hundreds of
people coming in and out, I'd be so annoyed having
to tell everybody good morning and goodbye, I have.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
A nice day five thousand times.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know, That's where I'm coming from, Like this is
their right regular job. They already have to talk to
the visitors. Do they really want to talk to just
the people that work there that are having to come
in and out? So that's where I met. Should I
keep saying good morning, Tom and bye, I have a
good evening.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Let them initiate it. At they say good morning, you
tell them back.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, But I don't want them to think I'm being
rude and they're like, oh, who's that. Oh that's that
bitch over there car breaking broken into We're not gonna
let her know.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's the nice lady that doesn't bother us every morning, okay,
either way.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I guess it's there. Some people are just more
friendly too, and they want to interact. See if I
was sitting there, I want to ready to leave me
the fuck aloneless. I absolutely had to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Is it a good morning, Patrice? Is it really a
good morning? Yes?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's my conundrum. And I think about this every single
every time I come into the building and every time
I exit. This whole train of thought goes through my head,
and then I get myself all flustered about it, like
should I be saying these things?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yes, they sit there all day thinking about that carolate.
If they just don't tell them good morning.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
They're like or they're like, I can't believe she annoys
us every day by saying good morning.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, they talk about you all day every night.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, well that's what we all do, is do all
It's like things in your head.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, that's you, okay, and other people like you there's
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
People, I'm sure, like me, that overthink things as simple
as this every single day of their life.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, thank god I'm not one of them.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, Well, anyways, so that's my question out there. Would
you rather someone say hi to you every day? Or
just leave you alone? If that's your job sitting up there?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
So all right, how cute is she?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Two?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, one's a man and one's a woman, and sometimes
there's extra ones up there, but that's not even relevant. Stuart,
you're such an idiot. Anyways. All right, let's go ahead
and get into this week's case out of Georgia. All right,
So Patrese Marie andres Ney Tambers was born November twenty eighth,

(06:30):
nineteen sixty five, in Ohio. Patrese would have a son
named Pistol Pistol Black Stude thought that was a great name.
Around nineteen eighty nine with a man named Don Black.
I'm sure they named name Pistol because he's got the
last name Black, and that's like a cool name, like
Pistol Black.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
You know, I don't know, but it's unique. I've never
heard of anybody named I.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Don't think it's too crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I've heard of gunner. Yeah, Pistol's a new one though,
trigger trigger.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Anyways. In okay, so she so she has this this
child with this man named Don Black. Don and her
would not work out, but they would remain best friends
in raising pistol. Now, in nineteen ninety five, Patrise met Rob.
This was Rob Andres Andres and.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Looks like enders. They say it Andres.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Though, Andres okay.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
In the yeah, they pronounced it and.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Rob Andres went, this is the last time we'll say
his last name. Anyways, it doesn't matter. When she was
working at a hair salon, he said, he walked in
as a customer to get a haircut, which due questioned,
based on the picture, what what haircut? He's got the
bald on the top, and then he must have had
the he had the little he was still holding onto
the sides in the back.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You know, and went all the way around the side
and yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So yeah, I guess he needed to get that trimmed up.
So he said. He walked in as customer, he said,
as soon as he saw her, he knew he was
going to make her his wife. Well, Patrice was around
thirty years old at the time, and Rob was around.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Fifty years old, wet twenty age.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yes, and he did not look he did not look
younger than fifty elsa. He definitely looked fifty.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, he should have just let go of those let
go of the hair and shaved, shave the head.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I would say, Patrice was he was definitely the reacher.
She settled, Yes, she settled. He read yes, definitely because
he definitely looked fifty plus.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
He must have had a nice pile of money somewhere.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm guessing, well, I don't know, Stuard. We're not going
to put that on. We don't know, Okay. They said
that she literally loved him any So they soon began dating,
and then they were married on March second, nineteen ninety seven. Sorry,
my thing messed up. I had to take a second
Mike phone messed up where I was reading. And he's Patrice,

(09:00):
she so, they said, at the wedding and everything, she
was very excited. She's all over and like they did,
seem very much in love, they said at the at
the beginning. Now, Patrice had a passion for cutting hair.
Early on. She used to practice on her son, trying
out new haircuts. He joke tells she he would even
have like mohawks and things, and she he'd have new
hair like seem like every week. She worked hard to

(09:22):
develop her skills and her customer base, and she was
finally able to open her own salon off Highway three
sixty nine in Coming Georgia. Stu, I'm surprised her heard.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
An I shall refrain.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Why would you name a town that coming Georgia. Anyways,
she named her salon Tamber's Trim and Tan, and I
will just say I'm sorry, Patrees, but she did participate
in the tan portion of she She was big on
the tanning bed you can see from her pictures and everything,

(09:55):
which we were all back then. You know, we've all
learned it's not good. Don't do it. Yeah, don't be
hanging out in the tanning bits. I used to I
used to think it was cool to get the little
Playboy bunny sticker. You know that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I was past tanning beds by the time I met you. Yes, no,
I might have been like casually going, but it wasn't.
It used to be like a thing you went every
single day, like this was the thing I made. By
the time I met you, it might have been just
still kind of something you did to go to get
ready to go on a trip. Not necessarily a day

(10:29):
to day lifestyle choice. It was definitely a.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Lifestyle part of your hygiene.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And the people that tanned were it was it was
part of their personality. It was definitely a personality trait.
The ones that were passionate about it, and you could
tell because they looked like orange leather.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
In there probably had the high end goggles and everything.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah. Yeah, bring, they brought their own goggles, the whole,
the whole nine yards. I did find it interesting that
she named her salon Tambers after her maiden name rather
than her married name. Yes, because he did. Her new
husband did help her open the salon, like supported it
financially and stuff like that was part of that. But

(11:10):
she'd built the business up herself by everybody.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
In town, just like I know clients, I know business.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, everybody in town loved her and everything like that.
So anyway, so the business was very successful and she
was very proud of it. Patrese was described by friends
as being always positive, always smiling, and just made everybody
feel special. She could talk to anybody, which that's kind
of like, I feel like a trait of hairdressers. They
have to have like a her people skills, people skills.

(11:35):
I would never be able to do that job. I
can't even determine if I'm supposed to say hi to
a security guard.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
So you don't even talk to the tickle when you
get your hair did.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I try on too, but they'll start talking to you
and then you have to talk to them. So I mean,
you know, me, I can be chatty if somebody gets
me going, yeah, but it's I got you gone, Stuart.
But I'm not going to going to initiate that chatty chattiness.
You know. Every once in a while I will, though,

(12:06):
I get start to feel awkward with something, and then
I just start talking, you know, awkward.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's like shut out, what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I know, I just start feeling awkward and something. I
overthink every single situation I'm in with any any human being,
and then I then I either make it. I either
just like shut down or I overcompensate.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Way.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yes, those are my two two speeds. So that's why
I just stay home, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
With me? Yeah, with you, you overthink what I'm thinking about.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
No, I know, my brain actually shuts off when I'm
with you. It's like it's just like whatever I do,
I don't either to do. Okay, So but Terce, like
we said she we describe her how she was and everything,

(13:01):
and how she made people feel special, like people would
stop by her salon just to chit chat with.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
There, like yeah they didn't even have an appointment, yeah,
or that would hang out after their appointment.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yep. So Patrice uh was very excited about her new
marriage with Rob. And for the first year, Rob, Patrese, Pistol,
they all got around along like super good. Everything was
just great because I think Pistol was about seven or
eight when they got married.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Anyway, so that first year, everything's going great. However, about
a year into it, it's the whole relationship changed, specifically
with Rob and Pistol. It was almost like he became
a Rob became a different person. Pistol said, he would
start making like snyde comments to him and even do
this in front of his friends, just like walk by

(13:47):
and say something rude to him in his room.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, I want to know what he would say. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I would like the examples.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
So Pistol would end up spending a lot of time
in his room just to avoid row. Now as time
went on, friends and family noticed that Rob was overly
protective of Patrice and kind of became possessive of her
my precious and at the time, as time went on,
it was clear that Rob was jealous of the tension
that Pistol got from his mom, because you know, she
was a single mom for seven years, Like you're not

(14:18):
going to come in and just take over, Like she's
not gonna care about her son anymore, just because you
guys got married. But that's what almost Rob after the
first year seemed like he was like, why is she?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Was she talking to this kid?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I was nice to him for a year, Like why
do we have to keep doing this? So that's how
that's how people started seeing Rob act towards Patrise and
towards Pistol specifically.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well Rob dead himself now favors and his portion talking
about Pistol. It's like, yeah, this guy seems off that
he never did like the kid.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, well we're going to talk about that, Stu. We
got to get into it. I'm just saying, I know,
but we're going to get into it, okay with exactly
what Rob said and did.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, Oh I know, we will. I'm just it's foreshadowing.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Karen shot shadowing.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, I got some for something for you.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I got some something you can shove it. Okay, Now
can you do your part?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
As you can probably tell, Kara is a mouth breathed
there this episode.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Why would you sit there and say that they didn't know?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh no, how can I.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I'm a little stuffy. Okay, So I'm having a hard
time breathing and talking.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yes for the for the first time listener that just
tuned in, it's gonna be like, I'm never listening to this.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm having a little bit of issues here lately. It's
probably this stupid place.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
We live, with all the dust.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yes, with all the dust. It's got me just messed up.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
On April fifteenth, two thousand and four, thirty eight year
old Patrese woke up as she normally does. She got
her son Pistol out of bed and got him ready
for school. She had a small argument with her son,
but nothing major. Then she got ready to go into
work at her salon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I think it was normal teenage stuff, like he wanted
to get to school early to talk to a girl.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So I don't know if he was rushing her whatever,
But it was just normal son teenager drama.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
What's normal teenager drama?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know, Stu. Just not anything I grew up with,
but you know, normistic.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So Patrice drops her son off at school and they
said that they're goodbyes. She said, I love you, He said,
I love you. Moms. She went to work. He went
into class to go talk to this girl that he
was sweet on. Later that afternoon, none one one call
was received from a client of Patrice's. They had an
appointment to get their hair cut and Patrice was nowhere

(16:44):
to be found. The scene supposedly looked very suspicious.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Do you mean supposedly it did look the same.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It looked suspicious. She wasn't there, and the cash register.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Was open, yes, and her lunch was sitting in the
microwave or whatever next.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
To the microwave.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yes, go on?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Would you like me to go on? Or would you
like I don't know why you.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Added supposedly like we don't trust the client.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Sometimes these ladies can be a little over a little extra,
like thinking that something was overly suspicious when it's not okay, whatever,
kind of like the way you overthink the good mornings.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
At the work, okay, whatever go on.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Police arrived to find the cash register open and all
the cash missing. Pa Teresa's lunch is in the microwave,
her vehicle is in the parking lot, and her purse
is untouched. They immediately knew that something was wrong. They
looked around. They found nothing else. Though the salon was tidy,
There was no signs of struggle, nothing knocked over. They

(17:46):
can't find anything really out of place other than the
cash register missing its cash.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
So they contacted Pistol at school and asked him if
he could please try to contact his mom. Did he
know how to contact her. He calls her on her
cell phone, but she doesn't answer her and she didn't
call right back, which is odd to him because even
if she doesn't answer, she always calls him right back
because they're very, very close. He told police this was
unusual and that this is when the police are like, hey,

(18:16):
they didn't really tell him what was going on. There
was like can you just try to call her? And
then they're like, hey, she's actually missing, That's why we
were here, this is what's going on. And they asked
him if he if they thought if he thought that
she would ever leave town. On her own accord and
everything that. He told police that she had no plan,
she had no plans of leaving, and that she would

(18:37):
never leave him either. Like they were very very close,
she was very involved with his life, and he would
never believe that she would do something like that. At
this point, Pistol broke down finding out his mom is
now nowhere to be found. Rob Patrese's husband, was also
contacted about his wife's disappearance. He did not believe she

(18:58):
would run off on her own either. Rob said he
knew he would be a suspect because he was the husband,
and he also said he had a degree in criminology.
I'm not sure if that's true or not. Rob was
a very confident man, so he just knows these things.
He knows I'm suspect number one.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
We don't we all?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes? Well, Rob told police, I don't think you need
a degree in criminology to think that's the first suspect.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, well, you got to throw that out though. All
you got to do is watch one crime show to no.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah. Rob told the police that he was at work
that day, but he would remain on their radar until
they could officially rule him out. One thing all of
Patrice's friends and family could agree on was that she
would never leave Pistol and she would never run away
like this, so they believe someone took her against her will.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
While looking at the crime saying, police find very little
evidence to go on. There's no signs of fourth century.
Since it's a salon, so obviously the door is going
to be opened during the day.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's a business, so there's going to be anybody could
walk in unless she was super PARENTO. When if I
was there by myself, i'd probably lock the door in
between customers.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Though I mean I personally wouldn't and if I was
at lunch, i'd lock the door too.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, but she was more trusting, and this was a
small town, and she was more friendly, and like I said,
she had friends just stop by, like pop into the salon.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know, no, y'all. I mean, I'm not letting people
just walk in and you're going to have to knock.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I know that. But you're a different personality than she
was to I know you clearly couldn't do hair.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I could not, no, because I don't have any First off,
after talking to friends and family, the only thing that
was out of place was Patrica's tahoe. She normally parked
backing in on the side of the salon, so when
she got out, she would walk right in the side door,
right into the salon. But today her vehicle was not

(20:50):
backed in, it was facing a different way. Police find
this very odd because of what her friends are telling them.
They run through the me any theories as to why
the vehicle had been moved to where it is, and
if there had been a reason for Patrise to move
it prior to being abducted. They're trying to trying to
figure it out. So one of the theories is did

(21:13):
somebody come up and ask for help jump in their vehicle? Which,
if you pulled in, your vehicle is running, So I
don't know why you would come in asking for a
jump unless you shut it off.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, yes, yes, you would trick her, so you'd pull
in obviously, and then you'd tell her, oh, my car
won't start. I pulled over to do whatever and my
car won't start. Can you come give me a Jumpyeah?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I suppose that could work.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yes, if I was intentionally trying to harm her, then yes,
then they could pretend that their car wouldn't be able
to start.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah. Or the other theory is if somebody moved her
tahoe after the fact, after she was taken.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Fully, Oh what are you going to go?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can go, okay go. Helicopters, dog search par parties,
they bring in the whole nine yards to look for
patrees because at this point it didn't look like she
had been harmed in the salon, and so they're believing
that she has possibly been kidnapped and they're gonna be
out there looking for she's been abducted, taken from the property,

(22:17):
and there's.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
A chance they can still find her alive if they
act quickly.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yes, the first forty eight, as they say, this was
a heavily wooded area of Georgia, so there'd be a
lot of resources needed to find police. So they had
a truce.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Not police, said police.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Police, that's what you said to do.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well, there's some tension between.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Me and do now because she's a mouth breathing No, because.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I'm annoyed by you right now? All right, there's some
behind the mic activity. Oh well, what Stuart, Just.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Like the snide remarks we didn't get in the episode,
maybe they want to know.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Sometimes sometimes you know you've been together a long time,
and sometimes somebody just annoys the fuck out of you.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You're the one that's breathing heavy.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay, I told you, I can't help it. My nose
is stopped up. You breathe heavy all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I'm not being a seepap, I'm not being annoying
right now.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh you're being annoying all right. Police are able to
narrow down who was in the shop and when based
on Patrise's appointment book. They speak to her first customer
that day, who came in around eight fifty am. The
woman said that Patrise seemed distracted, not very attentive, which
was completely unlike Patrise.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Look.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
She noticed something was.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Off, said she was being at Kara Stuart.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Oh my god. A second customer came in around eleven
ten am. He was in the shop for just a
short period of time and left around eleven twenty seven am.
He said he received a phone call as he was
leaving the shop, and this was confirmed by police. I
guess they were able to talk to whoever he talked to.
Around eleven thirty five am, another customer calls into the
shop and speaks to Patrise for about two minutes. The

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customer said that Patrise was very short with her, which
again completely unlike Patrese. So something was going on that morning.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You know that she was she was annoyed with her husband.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Maybe probably I can really the next phone call that
comes in to the shop is around eleven fifty am.
This call would go unanswered. Police now know that something
happened between eleven thirty seven am and eleven fifty am,
because they say the whole thing about this case is
something happened in thirteen minutes, like that's all it took.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, so if they can find somebody that knows anything
about the thirteen minute window, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
So two independent eyewitnesses come forwards and that they drove
by the shop around eleven forty five am. They noticed
that Patrica's vehicle was not in its normal spot and
that there was a second blue vehicle parked in front
of the shop. Now, when eyewitnesses say, one of the
eyewitnesses says, it's a Chevy Lumina with Georgia Wildlife plates.
I'm on her side because that lady was like she

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knew exactly the color, she knew where everybody was standing,
she knew the Georgia Wildlife plates. I feel like she
really paid attention.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Just not enough. I guess you solve it.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, she told him what it was. She already felt
bad enough. Stewart, you want to rob it in.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is this the one that saw the two people outside
the bin? Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
So there was another. So that was the first witness.
It was a woman. She said she had the specific color,
make model of the car and that it had these
Georgia Wildlife plates. Now, the other witness was a man,
and he said it was a four Taurus or a Malibu.
Both remember seeing two people outside of the car. One
was described as having short brown hair, the other one
was described as an older lady. Now, one witness, however,

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said that the person with the shoulder linked hair was
a woman and the other the guy. The man said
it was a man. So, I don't know. They both
saw the two people.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I don't know where this older lady comes in though,
from them, unless they're talking about the trace at age three.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
They're saying it was an older lady. They both saw
an older lady. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Stewart, they
don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I don't know how one says that the short
brown hair is a woman.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
No, there's two people.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I know. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
There's two people.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
How does the one guy go, I think it's a man.
The other person, like.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I think it was a woman because it's like short hair.
I guess it was shoulder lenked hair, so it could
go either way. I guess. I don't know. But basically
they saw they know there was a blue car there.
It could have been a Chevy Malibu Alumina or a
four tourists or whatever they said, And there was definitely
two They both saw two people there. One was an

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older lady. They both said that the other one though
with the short length, brown length hair or whatever. One
said it was a man, one said it was a woman.
So that's what police know for sure. But they're saying
that they're credible witnesses because they were completely independent of
each other.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
That ye, yeah, they were in different vehicles passing by
approximately at the same time.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
And then both said that the shop door was opened,
but neither said they saw Patrice. They were familiar with
Patrice and they did not see her. So I don't
know who these people were, but there wasn't Patrise wasn't
out there. Patrice did have brown hair, but Patrice was
also very ten, so I feel like.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
She would stood out.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
She would have stood out. Now the police are, like
we said, taking these as credible witnesses because of independently
they're they're coming by at the same time frame, because
this was on a highway, so there's people passing by,
and these two did notice that the car.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Was I thought that the short brown hair person was
Patrese for some reason, no watching the thing.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, they did not, because the one lady was very
familiar with Patrice and none of them were Patrice. She
was friends with her and she said none of them were.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I guess that's why eyewitness accounts are not as reliable
in court as people would hope they would be. They're
not because we watched the same show and I got
these eye witnesses saw different thing.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I watched it three times and rewound it this part
so I could hope I could understand what was going
on because it was confusing. But yes, I reround it
and watch it.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So I shouldn't be feel too bad about the way
they're presented it.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Then, yes, it was confusing. I had to rewind it
and watch it a couple times. This is on Unsolved Mysteries,
is where we found this case FYI the New Unsolved
Mysteries on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Police did look into Rob's alibi and he was able
to produce a gas station receipt for around the time
that Patrice went missing. There were other ways that Rob
could have been involved, but the police had no evidence
at this time that they could pursue, like.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
A murder for hire or something like that. They just
didn't have any evidence to not point away from it,
but not pouring towards it. So they what are they
going to do? You know?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Or he could have gone to the gas station and
asked his buddy for a receipt with that stamp.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, they said the time apparently he worked like forty
five minutes away and where was the gas station. It
would have been very difficult for him to make that.
So I don't know what they said the time. The
he's not eliminated, but it's very unlikely they think that
he would be able to do.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
This pull it off, yeah, without meticulous planning. When asking
Rob about his marriage to Patrese, Rob said that they
never argued and they lies.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's a definite lie.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
What and that he did not have the best relationship
with his step son because Pistol was jealous of his
relationship with Patrice.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
You're gonna tell me, you don't argue whenever you don't
even like your own step son and you've been and
you're hateful to him, and Patrese is just like, okay,
we're not going to argue about that. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
When speaking of Pistol, police learned that Patrice had mentioned
getting a divorce just a couple of weeks prior to
her going missing.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Which I completely believe is could pause possibly, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But when they ask Rob about this, he denies that
there was any divorce on the table whatsoever, that he
knew anything about such a thing.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Well, he may have not known about it, but.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Our relationship was so perfect I couldn't even imagine. Police
follow leads that they have and they're not able to
come up with any solid suspects. So for over a
year this case would not have any new developments.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, there just wasn't any evidence to go off of.
They had nothing, They had no body, they had no
there's not a crime scene really there in terms of
like blood or anything happening. There's not really any witnesses.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Now, something that they didn't answer, and this whole thing
for me was they didn't say whether or not they
cell phone evidence where her cell phone was. If they
found her cell phone.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I believe her cell phone was at the salon. She
didn't have her cell phone because the son said he
said her cell phone was there. He just figured she'd
come back or whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh well, I don't know if that ping rob cell
phone to see if he was pinging off any towers
or not.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't know. They didn't mention it.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
If that's that fugitive, uh what you call it knowledge
that an't killer would.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Now, yes, they said there's still some things that only
that they have kept secret all these years. At this point, though,
I'm thinking, you guys just need to release it. I mean,
this ain't getting any worse close to being solved.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's twenty years on now.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
So some unusual things happened after Patrise went missing in
regards to Rob and Pistol. So this we're gonna talk
more and stuff. What's stew foreshadowed earlier about the weirdness
of it all. So the day that Patrise went missing,
Pistol went to where he lived with his mother and Rob.
You know that he'd been living for since he was
seven years old. He goes there and the locks had

(31:38):
been changed. Rob had changed the locks immediately that day. Now,
Pistol said he knocked on the doors and Rob would
not let him in. So this is like the kids
in like tenth grade. So he's like fifteen fourteen, fifteen
years old.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I think they said he was about two weeks from
He said he was about two weeks from turn of
sixteen when his mom went missing.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, so this is a fifteen year old kid that's
now his mom is missing. He goes back to he's
living with all his stuff, and he won't let him
in the house. So later on, talking to Rob about this,
he said he simply changed This is in the interview
that he's doing Current Times fifteen years later. He said
he didn't. He simply changed the locks because he didn't

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like Pistol, so he didn't want him in the house.
He didn't want to deal with him, so he just
changed the locks. I find this so strange. Pardon me,
wonders if she was in that house, like he was
holding her hostage or something like that, because he said
some weird things later on, which we'll get into me.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
So, anyway, so he said that Pistol was a mental
drag and he just didn't want to put up with
them and everything, which is just crazy to me. So
Pistol had no access to his clothes or any of
his items, any of his mom's stuff, nothing. Pistol was
able to go live with his father during this time,
but it was very hard on both of them because
Patrese was Pistol's father's best friend, so he kind of

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went into a depression and everything like that. They spoke
so Patria, because Patrese and Dawn spoke daily about Pistol
and made him a priority, so that's why they were
so close. Pistol was convinced that Rob had something to
do with the murder. In addition to pistol, friends and
family were also concerned that Rob had something to do

(33:13):
with it. So this isn't just like some moody teenager
that's pissed off, but who locks the kid out of
the house that's so fucked up, or at least that
his stuff outside of your gun. He didn't even give
him any clothes or anything.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
He was just like whatever clothes he had, I think
he had that.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I think he I think he had something to do
with this and that that I think the mom was
in the house.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Either dead or alive. You think she was in there.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yes, that's I'm going with that anyways, But we'll talk
about it bored a minute. Allegedly allegedly, Well, no, Rob's dead,
Oh he is dead.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, I'll think.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well I was going to tell you that at the end.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So he can't come back and see it.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, we can say all we can talk shit about
Rob and his bald head and his terrible He deserves anyone.
He's a terrible person.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, I mean, if you're incoming Georgia, you'd probably just
go and take a shit out on his grave.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, he's a terrible human being. Just but he did
the pistol was a.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Terrible Yeah, that alone deserves being crapped on his grave.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I don't know if there's some law against that. I'm
sure there is. Can't go desecratic.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Well, after this, what if anybody watched this documentary in Georgia,
all the law enforcements going to be like, man, this
guy really sucks.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Somebody go take a shit on his graves.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Talk about taking a shit on someone's grave. That's so disgusting.
What is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Because then the rains and it trickles down on those coffin.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Okay, I don't think that's how that works.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
It probably doesn't work exactly that way now, but okay,
in my mind envisioning it, because Rob's an asshole. On
December sixth, two thousand and five, two men were helping
build a fellowship hall at Lebanon Baptist Church, which is
about six miles from Patracea's old salon. When they were
out back taking a break eating a bay in a biscuit.

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This was this was a key thing.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
This was true.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
This is true.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It must have been some famous biscuits in town or something,
because if you mentioned the biscuits.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
They didn't say if they were having it with honey
or with some gravy or something, biscuits and gravy or but.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
His friend brought him over a biscuit.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well, they see some buzzards flying around in the woods
out yonder and they thought maybe it was a deer
out there. But they went out to check and see
what was happening. As the birds are cleared away, I mean,
they do see a deer out there, and why.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
They do see a deer?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
There was a deer out there. That's why the buzzards
were circling. So they were out there checking it out.
And then the one guy told the other guys like,
what is that down there to your right? And then
he turned around. He looked and he saw a human skull.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Oh, I didn't catch they had a deer that there
was an actual deer out there.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, there was an actual dead animal out there. So
he sees the skull. They call this in. Police arrive
at the scene and they start recovering bones. They spent
about a day and a half on on the site
searching for remains, looking for any evidence, any clues as
to how she got out there, and investigators said they spent,

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like I said, a day and a half.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Stud's trying to go rogue and not stick to the script.
So that's why he's repeating things because all of a sudden,
you watch the episode this time.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I always watched the episode.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's a lie.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know. Police can't figure out how in fact Patrice
ended up out there. They don't know if she was
carried drug, if she was forced to walk out there
on her own a cord, well not on her own accord,
but forced to walk on her own two feet or
any how she actually got out there, so that this

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is all a mystery too.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yes, because at this point it's just a bunch of
bones out there. They don't have much. Yeah, it's been
a long time.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Almost two years.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Out there in Georgia, and the heat, the bugs, the humidity,
things are. Yeah, that's all they have. They were able to.
They did spend a lot of time recovering those bones,
because the guy said he recovered almost almost every single bone,
because there there's like two hundred and sixteen bones in
the human body, and he said he made him stout
there just look for every single one of them.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
So they tried to find everything they could. But besides
her skeletal remains, there was no other evidence out there.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
And they couldn't tell how she died either. Now, over
the years, there have been a few suspects in the
Patrese In Patrese's murder, The first one was a man
named Gary Hilton. Now Gary was a serial killer who
murdered hike who murdered hikers in Florida, Georgia, and North
Carolina between two thousand and five and two thousand and eight.

(37:32):
He was known as the National Park serial Killer. I
never heard of him before me neither.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'm sure if you listen to the National Park the
uh yeah, the what's that crime junkie people? I think
that's on their network. They got a National.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Park killer National Park out of Dark after Dark.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I don't know what it's called.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Anyways, Well maybe we'll cover it. It covers the South anyway.
So they have no direct evidence showing that Gary killed Patrese. However,
they just know that he was known to con people
out of money, and one of his favorite places to
stop was hair salons. Around lunchtime, he would go in
and try to con people. Now Gary is on death

(38:15):
row and never confess to killing Patrese. Police can't roll
him out, but they also can't definitively say he did this.
They just have a suspicion about him. There's nothing really.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Based on shit he said yeah, that he likes to do.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Another suspect that came forward was Jeremy Jones. Now, Jeremy
was a suspected serial killer. He was convicted in two
thousand and five for the murder of an Alabama woman.
Now Jeremy did confess to murdering Patrese. He did have
some of the facts correct for the crime. Scene. However,
when he's told police, he told police where he dumped
her body, it was actually about seventy miles from where

(38:51):
the body was actually found. And then he later recanted
his confession, stating he only did it because he was
trying to negotiate a better prison situation that he was in.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
The president he was in. Yeah. Yes, Well he also
cost the taxpayers lots of money because he said he
threw a body in.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
This river, and they spent a lot of time, spent
a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Of time looking this sixty five miles worth of river, Yeah,
trying to figure out if her body got hung up somewhere, this,
that or the other. Yeah, they spent a lot of
time looking for her.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
So police don't think that he did it. However, they
can't completely rule him out. So those are just two,
I mean, they're just trying to find anything at this point.
Those are two people that could possibly have been involved,
but they have no evidence to say that they were
all right, So at this point, everybody, we're just telling
you this is unsolved. So we don't have anybody told

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at the beginning. So but what I'm saying is like
going forward, like those theories of who might have killed her.
Those are just theories. So we're just going to try
to talk. We're going to be talking through what we
think happened, some weird behavior by Rob. Where they're at
today because this was made in twenty twenty, we think,
so it's been five more years, but it's still unsolved.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
They found this in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty or
something somewhere around there. Based on what Pistol said, yes,
about fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yes, I didn't take the time to look up when
the actual episode was filmed. I remember Unsolved Mysteries did
it come back at Netflix? But I don't think they really.
It wasn't as popular as they thought it was going
to be.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, they don't have the original kuy what was that
guy's name, Robert Stack with the boys.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, Unsolved Mysteries, Well, Unsolved Mysteries used to do like
I feel like, they were like little fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
They did paranormal stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Well they do paranormal on this too.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
So well, the Amy Bradley was apparently on an Unsolved
Mysteries I believe, and she was also on America's Most
Wanted the cruise ship Lady.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I don't even want to talk about that. Why because
that was a waste of time.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
You didn't even watch it.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I watched like ten minutes. Though.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
No, it wasn't a waste time because we're gonna talk
about it because I got some things to say. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Rob has stated his beliefs of what could have possibly
happened to Patrice. He thinks it's someone who knew her routine,
possibly someone she was familiar with, kind of which I
feel like, like a husband, maybe yes.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Or I feel like because she obviously went with somebody
or walked out, there was no struggle in there or
anything like that, So I just feel like maybe she
did know. I think he's right on that, maybe because
he knew what happened because he was there.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
He thinks that maybe she was held captive, possibly where
she lived according to Kara, for some time, and his
words may even that, Yeah, this is disturbing. He's like,
she might have even been somebody.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, He's like, I mean, I don't want to say it,
but she might have been someone's toy, like who says
that he's very strange.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
He's very creepy, creepy dude. He also suggested that they
took her body out to the woods in a wheelbarrow.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
And the people say that that's strange that he has specifics,
like he's very very specific with what his theories are,
his theories like he's like, maybe in a wheelbarrow.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I don't know, maybe it was a guy that was
twenty years older that pushed her out there in a
wheelbarrow that they bought it lows on a discount day.
Just maybe, just maybe. Rob also did some weird things
after Patrese's body was found. He asked the funeral director
to lay her skeletal remains out as anatomically correct as possible.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And so the poor, the poor funeral guy or whatever
mortician he had it said, took him hours to get
the bones laid properly.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
And then Rob went in there spent hour long and there.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
He picked up the skull and walked around with it.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Said he kissed it, kissed it.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Very strange.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yes, Patrice was cremated and he refused to give pistol
any of the ashes. Rob, as if it wasn't creepy enough,
also admitted to sleeping in the with Patresea's ashes for
at least.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
A year, and he said it was hurt his teddy Bear.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yes, so he had the box, the car, the cardboard
with the whatever box the ashes were in.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well, no, I think he took her bag. He had
her bag. He could.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
He said it was the first time he ever saw
the bag because he like cut it open with a knife.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yes, so he's sleeping with the smushy bag of ashes
like he's cuddling with it.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
No. Yes, Whenever he took the bag of ashes out
in the documentary, he said, this is the first time
I've seen the ash.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I don't think so if you're cuddling up with something,
I don't buy what he said. He didn't want to
admit that he he said he doesn't admit to people
that he slept with their ashes for every year. I
think he's lying why he said this is the first
time I've seen her ashes because I think he wanted
to just how are you going to sit there and
say it's a teddy bear? If it's a box, I
don't know. You can't snuggle up to a box. I
mean you could, You can't and sleep comfortably. You can

(43:55):
just snuggle up to a box. I think he's lying.
I think he slept with her ashes like in the bag.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Well, it looked like he cut the tape off.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
He seemed to know what he was doing when he
opened that thing, because he opened it on screen for
everybody and pulled her ashes out, which I thought was
odd because most people say, well, oh the ashes, like
we have my I have my mom's ashes. I would
never be like, let's just open it on up, let's
grab the bag of ashes out, like you would just
show the urn. You know, yes, so you could sleep

(44:27):
with an urn.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I don't know. I'd be uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, and you think a box a rectangular box, well
it was cardboard.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
It was whatever box inside a cardboard box.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
He didn't sleep with the cardboard box. I'm telling you
he's a creep. He if he's sitting there kissing the
skull and stuff. He took those ashes out and snuggled
with them.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Stew that's quite possible. I would take care.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I would be well, then why would he do it
that on the show? I'd be afraid they'd poof out there,
you know, But he wasn't. He just was like emphatic
that the reason that he was like, I just I
have her ashes, and the one person I don't want
to have the ashes is Pistol.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, he he hates Pestle.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
He hates Pistol. His fifteen year old kid who lost
his mom. He just like hates him so much and
doesn't want even have that ash.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah. I felt really bad for Pistol because it was like, uh,
yesterday this happened to him. It seemed like whenever he
was telling the story, Yeah, he was pretty broken up,
and I was like, man, I feel bad for that.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, he's very it's very upsetting. And then the fucking
rob guy over there.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Just being a jazhen A toy.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, and then he could I kind of teary eyed,
but he'd say She was.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Like, I don't know if he was getting teary eyed
or he just had leaky eyes, because he.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Might have just had leaky eyes. All right, So police
state that they do, like we said, they do have
some information they have not given to the public because
they want to make sure that if the killer does
come forward, they have those details the killer would know. However,
I feel like they should just let it just because.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
My prime suspect is dead at this point.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
So yeah, so just just release the rest of the details.
Maybe it'll help.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I don't know, there'll be something that ball coming in
there and doing a false confession. Well, anyways, they hold
it out so that you don't get Oh.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
No they do, I know they do, but at this
point they're never going to solve it.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Well, I don't know if the stuff that they released.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Because the one guy's dead that did this, so.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I don't know if they release it if that would
help any eyewitness solve it.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Anyway, So Rob did pass away, so Patresea's murder is
still unsolved today. Rob passed away in twenty twenty three
and Pistol was finally the So apparently Rob remarried after this,
and the wife must have thought this is fucking weird
or something or not right, because after he died, he
was given Pistol, was given the ashes by Rob's family,

(46:45):
so they probably all agreed.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Like, did Rop have any kids?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I didn't they It didn't seem like they didn't mention it.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
No, no, because he would unless he remember, but he
was fifty, he would have been fifty seven, No, fifty eight.
He might have been close to sixty when he remarried.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Well, I don't know if he had any children previous
to Marian.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
That might have been grown adults. Yeah. I don't know anyways,
but I think Rob didn't. I think either he gives
off if I can't have her, nobody can, you know vibes,
So I feel like that's why. I think she was
getting ready to leave and he knew it and he
was never going to let that happen. He either killed him,

(47:27):
killed her himself, or which I think is very odd
that he's talked about a toy. That's why I was like,
did he bring her back to the house, change the locks,
have her up there, then murder her and then go
dumper in the woods with this wheelbarrow.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Rob strikes me as the sort of person that would
have sex with a body.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yes, he would, he would, He would definitely do.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
She may have been dead or alive.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I think he's a freaking creep, is what he is.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
He was a weird dude.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, so one hundred percent. I think it's unsolved, but
I think Pistol thinks that he did it. The friends
and family think he had something to do with it.
He either did a murder for hire or something so.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Or had he found a gas receipt in.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
The parking lot, yeah, or somehow got a gas station
receipt because they didn't say he was on video at
the gas stage. He just had a receipt from the
gas station.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yes, his buddy could have ran it and he'd be like,
hey man, Or he went to the place and somebody
dropped their receipt on the ground and he just picked
it up.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah. So all right, well that's our case for this.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Week. You don't want to throw any other theories out there.
I don't any other shade it.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Rob, No, Rob, did it? Rob the freaking creep?

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Okay, now you just made everybody listen to this.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well they can join me. It's eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Not for them.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yes, so all right, Sue, do you have a yell
need jesus? I have like five, but they just do
the one that we talked about earlier.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yes, well that one in the age of social media,
that one's already like ten years old.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I don't know, it's all the rage right now. People
are just having fun with it at this point.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yes, it is everywhere everywhere, all the time. At the moment,
people probably already know what it's going to be just
based on that description.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't know's it just happened earlier today? Like it's
it's still new, it's still on TikTok. Once it hits
Facebook and Instagram, then it's old news. Okay, Oh you
saw it on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I think I saw it on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Okay, then it's old because Stu will tell me stuff
and I'm like, TikTok finds it first. Yes, TikTok finds it.
I've realized now because I never was on TikTok, but
now that I'm on it, I realized that by the
time it makes it to Instagram and then finally Facebook,
it's old news like it's been on TikTok. He'll tell
me something like, oh yeah, I sold it on TikTok

(49:50):
three days ago, and it's just not making the rounds.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Are you ready, which is sad, I guess for me, yes,
because I'm not up and hip with what the kids are.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Doing well, because the dramas start on the TikTok That's
where it all starts. Okay, Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Coming to us from The New York Post July seventeen,
twenty twenty five, Thomas Barribee and Natalie O'Neill cold plays
Kiss Cam Zero's in on a mortified tech CEO Andy
Byron and alleged HR chief mistress Kristin Cabot. Here we

(50:29):
go with the little puns. Now they got to face
the music. A kiss cam moment broadcast at a Coldplay
concert struck a scandalous note, Am I boring you?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Oh? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Struck a scandalous note when it apparently yes, I've seen.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
This on TikTok alergity This is old.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
News exposed a cheating tech tycoon and as head of
HR mistress. As the band's frontman, Chris Martin mused that
they must be having an affair. The couple identified as
a strong I'm her CEO, Andy Byron and the firm
chief human resource officer Christen Cabot.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Well, no, but her actual title is Chief People Officer.
It's one of those companies. It's like going to be
given the cutes name, like, oh, she's the chief people
officer instead of the H yes, instead the HR manager
or whatever, She's the chief people Officer. I was like, oh,
I hate these people already.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah. Well, they scrambled to hide their faces when they
were caught on the jumbo tron canoodling. Canoodling. There's not
a word you hear often at Gillette Stadium near Basting
on Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Is that all of it?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
That is not all of it? I had to hit
the read more and then all the ads came up.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
What else is there to say?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Oh, there's more to say, Kara. As the camera paned
toward them, Byron had his arms around Cabot's chest with
her fingers intertwined in his. They quickly realized they were
on the screen, prompting Cabot to fling her hands over
her face and quickly turn around, while Byron ducked down
out of you.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
And that bitch next to him just laughing. She's a
terrible human too, though.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Because she works there. Yes all, and they all knew
about it. At first, Martin thought the camera had captured
a sweet moment. Look at these two, he said, but
the reaction quickly left him confused. He said, oh what,
He can be heard saying, either they're having an affair
or they're just very shy. Holy shit. I hope we

(52:32):
didn't do something bad, he said. According to additional footage
taken right after the paarape, appeared to work closely together
at Astronomer and AI and Data company, valued at about
one point two billion with a bee. When Cabot was
hired in November of last year, Byron gushed about her
twenty years of HR experience or people experience and exceptional

(52:56):
leadership skills. Meanwhile, Cabot Rot, you' your ship for blow
jaw skins, Well you know new Blue. Meanwhile, Cabrit wrote
on LinkedIn that her conversations with Byron before her hiring
had energized her about the opportunities at the company. She
also boasted that she wins trust with employees of all levels,

(53:20):
from CEOs to managers to assistants. Byron appears to be
married to Megan Kerrigan Byron, while Cabot recently divorced her husband,
Kenneth Thornby. Cabotan Thornby filed for divorce in twenty eighteen,
and the split was finalized in twenty twenty two. It's
unclear if she has since remarried. Bah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Okay, let's move on, we don't need any more of this.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Oh what well. Former employees of Byron were laughing their
asses off about his alleged caught on camera affair, and
ax colleague said the text grew groups and chains of
former employees are like everybody's laughing their ass off and
enjoying the hell out of what happened to him getting exposed,
adding that Byron was an allegedly a toxic boss. Observers

(54:12):
Thursday were quick to point out she needs a lesson
from her own hr handbug, don't fratnize with.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
The boss anyways. Okay, we're done with the article.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
No s you want me to go to that review
where people are upset.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
He did release a statement, and I don't know if
it's true or not, but he was upset that he's
like apologized and everything like that because he's a he's
a co founder of this company, so he's worth a
lot of money.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yep, he.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Released a statement and in his statement, he said that
he didn't appreciate though, that these types of things, these
cameras or videos on these big events, would display a
private moment that they did not sign off on to
basically be.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
On these joke you're in a public guess what? Yes?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
And then he also recited cold Play lyrics in the.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Well, the most embarrassing part should be being at a
cold Play at a Coldplay concert.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Anyways, I don't mind cold place, do I know? You
don't like them. Anyways. My question is, though I'm wondering
if I'm wondering, Okay, the woman that was sitting next
to her is terrible too, because she worked there and
was friends with them, and she knew.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
He was friends just like she was.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
A manner, she's aware that this affair is happening, and
they're out there with them while this is all happening.
She was laughing at him though whenever it was happening. Anyways,
my question is when there's very very rich people, sometimes
they have The wife did change her Facebook. She took
his last name off her Facebook page, and then apparently

(55:49):
she got inundated with comments, so then she deleted her page. However,
I'm wondering if they had an agreement said hey, you
can sleep with you. We're not very happy, but this
divorce me messy. You're the CEO of this big company.
We can't have It's not good for the stock, it's
not good for the company for you to look at stable.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I got a sixteen bedroom house that I love with
a lazy river pool that goes around the thing.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
The boy that I really love, and the My questions is,
did is it? Did they have a relationship where it's like, Okay,
you can go and do this because everybody at the
company does, but you can't publicly embarrass me, like this
can't be a public thing. And then he got caught
out there with her, So that's my question. Was it
more of an open relationship because that could have been

(56:35):
part of the thing, and now he's exposed this whole thing,
so now it's definitely gonna have to be over, but
they could have had.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
She's going to get a nice divorce, yes.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
So anyway, so that's our y'all need Jesus anything else
you'd like, Dad, ste.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Quit breathing into the microphone.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Okay, shut up, Stew. I can't help it. Okay, I'm trying. Okay,
you're so annoying. All right, I gotta.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I'm just trying to help you.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
We gotta go. It's eleven o'clock at night. I gotta go.
We gotta get to sleep. So I guess we will
see you all next time. Bye, everyone, say bye ste bye.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
St Don't you know it's bad to be superstiiouss by
napping else it's working and it's pretty learning and sick.
It's worthy. Cam