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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:32):
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feel me?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So this episode today, in fact, before being to get
to the episode, how are you feeling today, my brother.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's been a hard day long. I'm not gonna lie,
it's been a long day.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm really grateful for my job, but man, it's it's
certain days it could be really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Before we even introduce to the top, we talk about
what song will put what song will represent your mood today.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know if they make music that represents my
my how I'm feeling today.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I feel I feel overwhelmed, I feel stressed, I feel anxious,
I feel I'm tired.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know what I mean. So hustle, I mean that song,
but that's song is energy.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Though I don't know if they now you're saying, are you.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
So you asking me, like what song would make me
feel better?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Because I don't know a song that makes me that
like represents like how I feel.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Right now now when you came in, you had the
energy right when I came in. It's been a long day.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
It's been a long day.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Hustle. Yeah, I came in us music right now even
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, But today topic we're going to get into music. Music, music,
music gets me. How music is, How music influence us,
How music pretty much is the key of life. Like
music play a big part of life.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It play a big part of my life. Certain songs
put me in different mood.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It takes you back to that day, like damn I
remember with doing this, so like music is big, whether
it's words, whether it's just the sound, whether is it beat.
Music have a big impact on our lives. So the
reason why I'm doing this topic today because I listen
to music, more music than I do listening.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
To TV watch your TV.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Let me say, like, certain songs come on and depending
on what mood I'm in, it'll make me cry, it
makes me smile, it makes me laugh, and it brings
me back to that day that I'm like, damn, I
was with this person.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It brings like music brings back good memories.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Same time it can break you down because it's like, damn,
I don't want to remember this.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
When I listen to a.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Certain song, that's weird, bro, like certain sometimes just more
to your point, like, sometimes I listen to a song, bro,
and it'll make me think about something that's not even
related to what they're talking about in the song, but
something about it though. Yeah, So sometimes songs can make
you happy and then other times it could that shit
how you feeling some other ways too.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
True true, So I question when what should go to
love song?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Like you you would have Shorty y'ah, y'all vibing, y'all
in the mood, but you feeling her, you like her,
y'all been dating for a little minute, but you played
you put that song on and it's like you can't
express how you feel.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
But by you.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Putting this song on, she's gonna get the idea. Oh dann,
we'll feel like this about me.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
That's tough, man, That's tough because there's so many great
love songs like s WV Escape Man, some some shit
I can't even think about. It's been a long day,
you know what I mean. But like the first thing
that easily comes to the mind, Jill Scott, long Walk.
You're gonna get me with that one every single time.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Give me Jill Scott.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah about Yeah, I'm a Jill Scott Eric ab type
of nigga for sure, and called me Eric Badu.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
You know what I'm saying. For shure, I'm l.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
But the likes of insense in this bitch for sure. Yeah,
but that's that's my type of Like I grew up
listening to that song, in particular on vinyl.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
My aunt used to pull it out on vinyl.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
She had like this gray vinyl sound system and ship
these bean bags, and her and my mom would be
in the back room, probably smoking weed, and we'll be
sitting there just like real comfy, just listening to Ship
Spin on vinyl, you know what I mean. So, Jill Scott,
she she got a special place in my heart for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Got it today birthday too? Happy? Oh ship for real?
She from my city too, I should know that. Yeah,
she's from Dallas.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Shout out to like me music soul child.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I love, don't change that ship like that represents me.
If you mind, I want you to know, like I
love you. Your head turn gray.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You feel me when you think about that? That's real love.
I don't care if you gain weight.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I don't care if your head turned gray, you lose
your teeth, you ball you looking like Frederick Douglass or
Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Shout to Stevie. But when your woman started losing her hand,
she looking like Stevie, Like, I still love the girl.
Let me kiss that ball spot. I still love you, girl.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
That's I kissed that ball spot. If that's my hell? Yeah,
my one, what baby's okay? We can put a wig
on that thing.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Baby. I still love you. I don't. It's like that
when you listen to that.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Song, it's just shown like you don't have to be perfect.
I didn't fall in love with the outside of you.
I fell in love with the inside of you. So
it's like I can't maybe I can't describe that. But
this way, I'm gonna put this song on and I'm
gonna you know, you just put that song where you
get that glee see you just look at her, she
looking like, damn, this is how you.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Feel about me? Like it's like that, that's that different feeling.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
You feel like, I need to get more into my
love song bag because honestly, that's that's not like, that's
not really that's not really like a vibe that I
that I'm going to a lot when I'm.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Listening to music, I.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Listen to my R and B, then I listen to track.
I listen to R and B, but it's not but
it's not like love per You know. I actually like
when R and B songs are not about love.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, I actually like that.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I feel like sometimes I feel like love is like
a like an easy cop out for a singer because
it's like all your songs be about love. But yeah,
I want to hear a niggas sing bro, and it
be about your life, you know what I mean, Like,
tell me what it was like picking the kids up
from school, tell me about you was making dinner, and
then you you spend forty minutes on it and then
you fucked it up and now you gotta eat rhymen
noodles because you know, like I want to hear about

(07:51):
your life as a singer. I feel like a lot
of the time, singing is just like an easy cheat code,
like I'm in.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Love with you, you.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Cheated on me, I'm gonna get you.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But see I'm the opposite because I feel this new
RN b ever is singing and all that, but women's
his bitches.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh are you saying the women of bitches that's in
the songs? That's how it is, what you mean?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
They singing pretty much saying these women's bitches like these
bitches ain't low you this that it like, that's not
what happened to the real R and B Like Donell Jones,
let me see the penties off this girl and all that.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
You feel me like damn, like you sat there and saying.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Hold on going you were mind you said, donare I'm
like it was done Johnes songs, I Love bro Like.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You sat there and said hard times that.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I want to hear about you sucking up life, jealous
life Jennis, Yeah, facts, you're right like that that first
album he dropped. Was you mean like people never understand?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Must be nice? Like that ship six year seventeen days.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like a lot of them songs he I like, I
sat with like that when he's say I'm looking for
God at my grandmother's house. In between the kutchen and
the couch. I look all around, up and down side
to side. That man was nowhere to be found. I
felt that, so I called my granny on the phone, like,

(09:20):
old lady, you best to get home because God ain't
where you say he would be.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I felt that shit when I got shot, and she
like like.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
That music put me in a more. I'm just like yo,
When I got shot, I was lost. I stopped believing
in God. I didn't know who God was. It's like,
but then I listen to that song, It's like God is.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
God is dying. The whereest place is you just don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So like music touch you in different places, in different
moods and different swings.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
You feel me.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
So music is like sometimes when I want to get
turned up, what I'll put on Dirk, I'll put on Future,
put on ge Z. I put on Boosie, like the
down South music and all that ship. When I'm in
my money mode. I'm listening to jay Z, I'm listening
to Young Dolph. If I want to be like drop knowledge,

(10:13):
I'm listening to Nipsey. So it's like, if i want
to be depressed and sad, because that's the mood I'm in,
I'm gonna put rod Wave on, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Cry listen to rod Waves.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So it's like music impacts our life and we don't
even know it.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
What do you so when you want when you feel
like crying, you feel like you need to cry, you
need to release something. Who do you listen to every time?
I don't think I've ever actually heard one rod Wave
song Emotion dark clouds that get you. They get the
tears flowing every time.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Because as he's speaking, it's like, this is what I've
been through in life?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
What is it about that song?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Though? It's like is he fighting the demons?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
But like I'm saying, like, when you're listening to that song,
right you press play? Is it like and I want
you to really think about this. Is it from beginning
to end? Or is it like building up to the
hook or bid it getting to the ending?

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Just off rip? As soon as you hear the sound.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Come in, you just feeling I had it be ride Dennis,
all of these percosets.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Wow, it ain't working yet.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I've been there when I was popping pails, bought a
pound on the bus. You're feeling murdered at like everything
he say. Tonight, he say, niggas are stabbing on your
back but smelling your face. Niggas act like no, he said,
bitches a stab you in your back but smelling your face.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Niggas act like they your homies, but they want your place.
I felt that shit. I'm looking for peace, begging for space. Low.
I'm just a nigga trying to win lo. I'm just
a nigga. So I sin, I feel that man.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
They spent a block, I spend a block. We spend again.
That nigga gotta pray for what he did to me.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I felt that shit. I've been feeling pained for so
long I became numb.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I've been at mm hmm. So it's like when I
want to cry, when I want to cry, it's a whole.
That's a couple of ships. Church music, you know, when
it comes to gospel, bro, I can see I grew
up in the church like heavy, heavy, like I was
going both services and going Monday, Wednesday and Thursday type ship.

(12:27):
But gospel music, man, like, some of it is great,
but sometimes I feel like gospel music need a revamp, bro, I.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Feel like it needs to be updated.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
That old Oregon Yeah, I grew up like that type
of I grew up that type of not that music.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, that's like Southern black.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
She saw the best in me, that ship that my
chursed in church.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
That's some heat when.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Everyone now surround ment to see the worst in me.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I understand that.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
No, that's Kurt Franklin. He dance Mary Mary. He it's
the guy.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Didn't me.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
But you see what I'm saying, Like it's like up there,
like I want to know what gospel sound like. If
Pharrell made the soundtrack to it, like that's to me,
that would be crazy, like for real, bro, like holy
ghosts worshiping music.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
But it was like for real.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
And Kanye West, Kanye, Oh, Kanye.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
West did do it a little bit though he did
know he did do it. He did do it, and
you know what, it was some cuts on this ship too.
It was some cuz like he had twenty four hours.
Him and Drake did the They did the Big Meat
Benefit concert or whatever like that was a big meat.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Not Larry Hoover.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Larry Hoover.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah you be in tuned, bro, you be fucking me
up with that shit, Larry Hoover. And then Drake ended
up singing the song that Kanye wrote, but it was
like it was fire bro.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
So yeah, ship like that though, That's.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
What I'm saying, like, and to be fair, I don't
know if Kanye like really went all the way gospel
with it. It was like probably like like eighty percent gospel,
but that other percent it kind of probably needed to
really get that like we could play this in the
church type ship, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
But for what it was though, it was good and
that's what we need.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
G sus Oh.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Come on, that's just showed me the way and the
devil trying to break me down.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
G Suys walks with me, with me, with me with music.
If you wan understand that R Kelly as bad as
people don't want to talk about him, I mean he's
the goat the gold Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I mean the king of R and B, the goats
of all goats.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
R Kelly is the king of R and B, R
and B undisputed undisputed.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Who coming next to who's standing next to R and
BM R Kelly When it comes to the right, his
pen is crazy, his concepts is crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Who's fucking with cas?

Speaker 4 (14:52):
That's your man, that's your man. His music.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I wish you wish what his song? The Holy God
you put on? I wish.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh put me on the spot, he said, that's your song.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Ship. Damn, I gotta I gotta go. You got me
on the spot.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
When to sing these songs by R Kelly, I wish
let me let me look at my God. Damn you
got R Kelly, I wish right then you got you
saved me, You saved me, gave me your second chance.
Like that's a gospel song right there, broke that ship down.
In different scenarios, people of life, of their life, somebody

(15:43):
had cancer, somebody got shot. God coming down and said,
I'm giving you a second chance, right, don't do what
you did before? And then they didn't change.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
You Know A song that makes me cry is I
play this song whenever I'm having like a like a
panic attack my life by Mary Yeah, yeah, that song
is like it it'll get It can bring tears for
me for sure.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
It can bring my everything that's not. What is right
is what it's on.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
You got a map?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, married, Mary gets hello love on the East Coast,
So no, she she she gets loved. But it's like
we got we got other people that we prioritize. But like,
since I've been living here, I haven't been to a
couple of little events and functions. And then I really realized, like, oh,
Mary's like the Beyonce of the East Coast.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Is that a crazy statement? She's beyond She above Beyonce
of the East Coast of the world. Billy, sorry, she
above Beyonce.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
You think Mary Jay is above Beyonce? Beyon as far as.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
What really and truly Beyonce just got the dance to choreography.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
No, no, don't. You can't say that. Now, you can't
say that. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
She can sing? Agree with this, she can sing and
all that. Bro. When it comes to Mary J.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Blige and JB, I'll say this, she's not sitting well
I say this. I think I'm more aligned with Mary J.
Blige's music sonically because she has a more traditional like
us type of sound. Let me know if I'm if
I'm if I'm you know what I mean. But Beyonce,
like her, her goal was to be a megastar, bro,

(17:33):
so she had to expand outside of that sound that
fits us. Mary got that sound that fits us. You
can play that on the block. You can play it
on the block all fucking day.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I do R and B Fridays every Friday. Okay, you
don't really play beyond.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
But that's what I'm saying though, Like Beyonce not making
songs for niggas in the club. Yeah, she got those records,
but like she making songs for people universe that Bro,
she's selling out stadiums.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Bro. That's cool, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
But I'm just saying that's the difference.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I love you anyway, even though you cannot stay. You're
the only one for me that She's.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Not very special, bro.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know at the top of that, you know who
else I love as far as like new school shorties,
I love Ari Lennox bro Ye to me out of
all the girls, out of all the new girls, like
people like Sissor, people like Somemmer Walker, you know what
I mean. But to me, like when it come to
like album Scissor right there, though I can't you know
what I'm saying, Like it's nothing bad I can say

(18:32):
about Sissy, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
But like, like album though, Lennon's got my heart.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Bro, but you look like you the more that.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
That is me though, that's a fact. Though Yeah, okay, okay,
she's like she's she's the kid of that. Like it's
like Jill Scott and Rikaba do birth Linx. It's like,
that's true.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's in that pocket, that's in that pocket. That's in
that pocket. I understand and I understand why.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's me all day, you know what I'm saying. But
then I like, I like, I like to take your
old school, like I like to go. I love Anita Baker,
Like come on, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
What I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Frankie Beverly
and mays happy feelings like I was raised on this.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Keith swear you said sweat already swear.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Begging.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
But see that's what I'm saying, that should be begging
ass music. That's why I be wanting them to do
more than like quit begging. And like I don't want
you to be like the new version of like gangster
R and B with niggas is rapping and singing. That's
that's another thing. I need niggas to start singing again.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's Chris Brown.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Chris Brown is one of the He's one of the
last grades.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Period. They don't give him credit.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Shorty came in here the other day, right, she came
in here the other day.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
She was like, who's the close, who's the who's the female,
who's the male version of Beyonce? We don't have one.
I said, what you mean, it's Chris Brown. She tried
to act like, she tried to be like, oh, we
got a fan in here, Like, I'm not even I
ain't never heard one Chris Brown album.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
It's just the facts.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
The discredited him over where his past was. Listen, that's bad.
It's just the facts.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
There is not one other motherfucker man or woman that
can dance like that man or woman Like fuck nigga,
fuck the gender ship. There's not another motherfucker on this
planet that can hold a candlestick to Michael Jackson, let
alone Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's Chris Brown. It's done. Nobody even, it's not even close.
Think he's a better dancer than both of them.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
He's, without a doubt he's a better dancer than both
of them. Absolutely, absolutely, and everything else. You might say,
Beyonce got better choreography maybe, but Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Doing it all flips, all that ship hanging from I
ain't doing that.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
She ain't doing no flips. He be coming from the
sky ship to Chris Brown is a goal and don't
want to give.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
It to him.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
No, no, no, no no. People do people do that?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
They really don't. They really don't shower Chris Brown the
way they're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
People do, Bro, because when they do what they bring
up Rihanna ship.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, but you see the thing is, though, like you
you gotta that's just come with it.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
At this point it should know no, but but it does. Though.
You know, when you.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Mentioned Michael Jackson being the great, we don't talk about
what he had people doing allegations of people do Chris Well,
first of all, it's been a lot.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's been a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
That was the way longer than the allegations of Chris
touching on Rihanna when.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
They Michael Jackson died around the same time.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, it's different though, Like Michael Jackson had a better
legacy than Chris Brown too. Here's a he's a stronger,
more impactful legacy. Honestly, Bro, I think that people people
know what it is about Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
But let people live like people can't make mistakes.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Now they do it, or that's what I'm saying. I
feel like we're not doing the justice by bringing it up.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Now, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
You know what I mean, because I think that, like,
at the end of the day, people some people remember
the ship about Michael Jackson. People still bring it up bro,
and he's dead, so it's easy to like only remember
him for the good ship.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
But the reason why I brought that up because it's
like Chris Brown album songs and he touched his first
Grammy this year.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
That's that's crazy. That's crazy. His first Grammy.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
He's been supplied to streets for a real long time.
Long time he was. He was the soundtrack to My Childhood.
Has Drake ever got a Grammy? I don't know. Let
me ask you real quick. I think I think so.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't know if he has bro oh, he had,
he totally. I'm about to say, you got a couple
your hell yeah, he up there with jay Z's and Beyonce.
He is No, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right,
and we talk about Chris Ray got five Grammys.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Talk about Chris Brown over fifty nominations, one like he's
the soundtrack of my childhood. When back in the days
when you used to leave voicemails and playing the music
in the girl voicemail, I used to do it like that.
I used to do that what he said, I used
to go the voicemail I put.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Chris Brown got one Grammy and that's just this year
for uh for twenty twelve, for his album Fame. You
got one for twenty twelve. Yeah, so this is the
second one this year.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
So he just got another one.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, okay, so whatever, So they're not they're not updated
on that one yet.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But yeah, you got to But.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, you was saying he was doing with the voice
with the voice.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Man, Yeah, I put the phone next to the voicemam.
I used to to say, what's your name is?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Oh? Yeah, that fits you. Girls. So the music was
playing first, and then you spoke the.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Music is playing, and then after music playing, I take
a fine like I love you, hang up the phone.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
You said, I love you.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
See I didn't have a cell phone when at this time,
like when that era was popping, I didn't I didn't
have a cell phone.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
We did. We had free nights and weekends, and when
you use up for free nights and weekends, up all
your minute. You had to wait to nine o'clock.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
To use your Yeah, I remember that time.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I spent all my money on ringtones. Yeah, just as
sign to certain people. Some of them ring tones was bullshit.
You remember polytone, polytone, ringtone. It's like you're thinking you
buying the song whole time.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's like some the beat fake by some cheap ass
beat version of the ship. Sound like a phone, sound
like a no Kia. Yeah, sound like some shiit a
nigga made it with, like a toiler made that ship.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I didn't have a cell phone at that time though,
so I was I was trapping off my my granny
housephone and getting in trouble too because I'd be trying
to cake on the phone. But my granny was so popular,
so mad people calling my granny, and I wasn't clicking
over bro to the point where niggas don't play by
my granny.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
So it's like my granny like she's big in the church,
Like people calling her just to check up on her mother.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Taylor coming over bro, they coming over.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Niggas was dead ass, pulling up like, yo, you're good
because I don't called about two three times?

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Who days damn.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
But the same time we set up there, we talking
about how music make us feel good and all that
music can be a downfall too, because I.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Ain't gonna lie. I can Li's to Dirk, listen to Vaughan.
I listened to all these different people, and it makes
me want to go out there and drill.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Listen to Von.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It could it could get a little scary because his
music is actually really fucking good.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
But then you really really good. But then you think, like, yo, this.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Man listen to he looks in real life, in real life,
this man is a is a serial killer, man took
lives from this planet. Turn his TV off, turn his
TV off. He was doing that. He was turning TVs off.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Man club and that ship drop and you see how
the club just move to him talking about how he
killed ship.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It's like, I think the best ever did coming out
the streets.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
No, that's saying you're doing You're saying too much. Now,
what do you mean he's the best of What.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Do you mean?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Like in that drill, think for drill.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I don't know, Bro. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
You got Herbo g Herbal, Bro, I don't know you
Herbro good Vaughn wasn't around long enough.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Maybe he wasn't right, but the time he was six.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Hundred breezy, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Bro, Vaughan had Chicago Vaughan one album.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
He the best. He the last best thing to come
out of Chicago.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
He the best thing that came out. I don't know
if that's fair to say. Bro.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Now you got Chief Keith and all them yetting That's
what I'm saying. Cool, whatever the case may be, Dirk,
Dirk and but.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
With Vaughan did not over Herbo. Bro, But Vaughan I'm
taking you're not a Herbo fan. I could tell you
listen to Herbo. I'm taking over Herbal. I'm taking on
over Herbal. I'm taking Dirk over over Herbal. To me,
Dirk is the best thing that came out of out
of Chicago.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Hands down. He's the best thing that came out.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
My thing about Dirk is is like, I don't know,
he just kind of got into this like commercialized version
of him. He started getting money, you know what I mean?
And I'm not saying the music got bad. I just
don't necessarily care for Like, let me not even speak
on that too much because I don't even listen to.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Dirk for rial.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I can't even speak to you every day. But the bro.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
But but g Herbo, like when he was first clicking
and then like welcome to Phase on LAMB mixtape Stop
at the Light and on my Soul Rondo.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, but Dirt, I don't see none of that I'm saying
with Dirk. I'm just sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Okay, Dirk commercialized right, commercials starting to be a commercial.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
All my life. But when you take away all my life,
you go deeper to the album.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
I don't like his style, bro, like I don't.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
His style doesn't resonate with me, like I wish I
could find the right words to like the like the
singing style that he'd be doing, it's not for.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Me pretty much. That's what was doing. Yeah, I think
that's what Max B was doing. No, why not?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Max B was like hood nigga singing though these niggas
is like yodeling on some records with auto tune. It's
like it's different, Like it's like it's it's it's different.
Max B was different there. It's like some it's almost
like like Nate Dogg type ship. How Nate Dogg be
singing but he a hood nigga.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's Max B.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I just felt like they did Max B. And I'm
just they just didn't have auto tune onto it. Maybe
not they like yeah, maybe for the best, Like it's
just a singing and ship. Like I don't want to
hear you crooning on a on a record, you know
what I mean? Like is it singing is a rap?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I'm not saying you can't sing, but like when Drake is,
I don't know, that's maybe not.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Let me not go through that.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, maybe John Rod did it, fifty did it. Yeah,
but they was gangster though I'm not saying he's not gangster.
But what I'm saying, like, I just I just it's just
not it's not for me, That's all. That's all I'm saying.
It's not for me.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Listen, don't don't have nobody coming for me, nigga.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
We ain't going to the rack.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
You don't don't have.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Nobody coming from me, nigga. You know what I'm saying,
I say, like the bad I feel like the ship
that Vaughn and talked about. Yes, fucked up bro.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
With a lot of people n music is good, called
a lot of people welcome to old Block.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
But I feel like like the way I feel about
listening to Big L right, Like I think Big L
is just like amazing, bro. But I can't listen to
Big L though, because it's like the music is just
too demonic. Bro, it's too demonic, you know what I mean?
I feel And it's the same thing with him. It's
like vin like this music is even Dolf at some point, Bro,
like you listen to like I fucking it.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I loved off, Bro, But at some point.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
It's like, Yo, this music is like and we let
a lot of shit slide, bro, a lot of music
Like I'm not even like, I don't even apply this
to everything. Like a lot of the time he'd be like, Yo,
longest is good and it ain't too crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
We can make it happen.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
But like with so with Young Dolph, right right before
he passed, he ended up releasing his project and the
cover ard with him. He had to like the he
put his hands together almost like he was throwing the
rock up, but he like put it over his eyes.
So it kind of gave like this like Illuminati type of.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
M's like why are you doing that?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Why you doing that?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And then it was like certain he did a music
video where he was he was on fire or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's yourselves, you funk all that, nigga.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, you in jail. I mean you in hell.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Well, I don't want to say that. I'm gonna take that.
I'm gonna take the ba I'm gonna take the back
because I hope my man is not in hell. You feel,
but it's certain symbols you be playing with. It's like,
I don't think my God gonna like that.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
How we get it that?

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Now, let's go, let's go, let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
How we know what's God approval? I feel like certain
it's entertainment. Nah, God don't play with entertainment.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's entertainment. It's like a lot of movies that's being made.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
God don't play with entertainment.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
How do we know that? I know that a lot
of these movies, So a lot of the movies be
gonna have a lot of movie that's being made. It's
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I think the difference though is I'm not even I
don't even care to argue that too much because I'm
you're probably be right. But the difference though, and this
is an issue with like me and Art. Me and
Art argue about this all the time. Music hip hop
music is predicated on facts. A movie is depicted on
telling a story. Come on, see, I really don't think

(31:15):
hip hop is really on facts, bro, Come on bro,
and that's what I'm be saying, Like, Bro, I really
don't think, but it really is, though.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
The words of the great jay Z. Don't believe everything
your elos cap shit is mostly backwards.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, don't believe though, But these people are telling you
this story as if they're actually doing what they're said
that they're doing, and they actually did it before.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
That's the whole appeal.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Because if that's not the appeal, that we wouldn't listen
to it.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's great entertainment.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, bro, if you believe that dark, If you believe
that dark like pick painted picture real quick.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Dirk, Yeah said, I.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Believe, bro.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
And if you didn't believe it though, if you thought
the niggas was just capping.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
But I'm sorrying everything that jay Z said about having
coming in the game a strong enough.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Believe that, Yeah, you believe that. Yeah, it's easy to believe.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I came into this motherfucking hundred grand strong known to
be exact from grinding G packs. That makes sense. Hundred grand,
he said, not a hundred million, and not a million.
He said, one hundred grand. That's one hundred grandon two
million four That makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
He got a line, he said, what's the position you hold?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Can you really match a triple platinum artist buck By
buck By only a single going goal?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Jay Z?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
The number has always been there for whole you know
what I mean, especially back in the day when they
was getting the physical units off. He said, what's the
position you hold? Can you really match a triple platinum artist?
Platinum is like a million, So he's saying he did that,
and and in the context of this bar, what's the
position you hold? Can you really match a triple platinum
artist buck By buck By only a single going goal?

(32:54):
So jay Z saying I only had a single my
single win gold, you went triple platinum by How I
make more money than you though, because the way my
business is set up, my business, I'm getting you, you get
your little triple platterm. You gotta split it with full
fifty four mold niggas and you barely get up. You know,
you get pennies off that versus me. I just got
my gold is five hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Honestly, feel like music is not facts.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Music.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Hip hop music is predicated on facts. It's always been
predicated on facts. Us to us, Yeah to us, really facts,
I'm not if I feel like you're ship not facts.
I'm not listening. You know, I'm not listening music the niggas.
I listen the niggas. I listening to Fat Like my
favorite Rappinggize Facts Shall Facts, Esco Facts. You know what

(33:46):
I'm saying. I'm listening to to park Like Facts.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Like I'm listening to.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Like Kendrick Big Cole, I'm big, I'm all the niggas.
I fuck with all them niggas, Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Like period all the time.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
That ship is tough, bro. I'm gonna just spin some
ship out there.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
My tip five. Fuck bro, this is really tough.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Fuck Common mm hmm. Common is my nigga. I fun
with comming.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
That's the only nigga in the studio ever was like
petrified to meet nervous. I ain't get a chance to
really meet him, but he was here though. I was
nervous than the motherfucker bro for real, because I rather
I really fun with Common for real, common hole Esco.
That'sco my favorite rapper period. So he just number one Esco.

(34:40):
This one should get fucked up.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Ah that's three. Ah.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I'm gonna change If you ask me this again, I'm
gonna change it. But this is what I'm gonna say
right now. Ah, Dom Kennedy, Ah, Dom Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Fuck dude, I said Kendrick, I ain't said Kendrick Kendreck.
Fuck a.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Cold Kendrick Cold and thousand. I'm gonna throw cold on there.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I'm gonna throw coal over Kendrick because like the warm
Up and Friday Night Lights, it means so much to me, Bro,
Like like when I tell you, like, I'm just like
on some real grown man ship. Those two projects they
mean a lot to me, bro for real. They do
something special to my heart. They helped me get through
a very They helped me get through a time in

(35:51):
my life where I needed that music. And I love
Kendrick Lamar to death. I actually think he's the better
of the three. When it comes to everything included but cold, Bro,
I can never I can never pay Jay call back
for giving me that music as a kid.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Bro, I can never pay him back for that.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Bro. I'm forever indebted to that man, like on some
real ship.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Like I will forever be grateful to j Cole for
giving me the warm up and Friday Night Lights that music.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Bro, It what that did.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
For me even now, Bro, I put that ship on.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Now you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I love I think Kendricks.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I think Kendrick the better when it comes to all
three of them, Like Kendrick got great ship, but like
man the way I fell in love with them two projects.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
So yeah, that's how I'm I do. That's how I do.
What about you?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Okay, hold one, I'm not gonna really say big because
that's what everybody will want to say because I don't
listen to big enough. I listened big, but biggest something
I don't have to listen to every day type ship. Okay,
if you want here, big a lot because this is
they dies coming zones.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So we goad big a lot. But Peces mom his
mom just past wilds. But Jay the content he gave
us Park and big Mom died and the sons what
they with their sons? Yeah? Crazy, I'm going Jay, that's one.
I'm going Ross.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Interesting, you know Ross, he said ten years Rum and
it's still nobody's favorite or whatever the he said while
Ross like.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Ross is a hilarrious like certain Ross songs.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Residnight, I close my eyes, I could like he painted
that picture.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
So you fuck with you funk with Rick Ross? With Ross?
What what Ross songs? You fuck with? My favorite Rick
Ross songs? Tears of Joy? I go last night I
cried tears of joy? What did I do to deserve this?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I felt that ship because that day, like when my
best friend died, I play, I had that ship over
the peat m hmm, like different Ross, Rich Forever.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's that's the one that's everybody favorite Ross album, Rich Forever.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
The album the song Rich Forever. I remember being blind
to it to that day. I put my mind to
it depth Jim on my heel, should I sign to it?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Like that ship is real?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Like I listened to that song and I'm like, every
time I listened to that song, I just said, say
it's a.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Contract with my name. O here they ain't just didn't
dry yet for.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Me to sign this ship and ain't like like a
lot of Rick Ross songs like the main back album, like.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, his his ear, for his beats, inside, his voice.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
His tone insane.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Like everything that Rick Ross brings to a track, he
makes a track better.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
What's the album that he dropped?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Hold on?

Speaker 4 (38:51):
I'm about to pull it up right now.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
He dropped this one album, bro, and I promise you
whenever I feel like listening to Ross, I go back
to this one album. Hold On, fuck man, It's it's
Santorini Greas is on there is that I'm gonna tell
you in like two seconds. Santorini Grease is on there.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Some of the best Ross production, which is saying saying
a lot, you know what I mean? Because he you know,
he has great productions, just in totality is different. Yeah,
he different, He different, He different.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Fuck man, while I my signal acting like I don't
want to work, stepping on my feet to get you
fucked up? That nigga voice is it? Yeah, he got
one of the greatest voices in rap.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh rather you than me? Oh yeah, rather you than me?
It's some songs on here, Santorini Grease. I think she
liked me. Game ain't based on sympathy. Yeah yeah, yah yeah,
yea yeah yeah yeah yeah well rap rap.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, I know exactly. That's my ship. It has become rivals.
I think it's the one where he did bird Man.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Uh huh Chris Rock and st to Rainey Yeah nah
Fox with that one.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Mm hmm. You hear that voice like shout out to
ross Man. Ross is great. He don't get enough credit.
You don't get enough credit.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Ross Okay, Jay Ross, Meek Meek, but you you be
listening to Meek albums though, h You're just a dream
dreams of night mans.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Type of album?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Which album was listening to?

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Album My best work, d C mixtapes, d.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Oh Yeah, Flamers and Ship d C two, d C
three Full That ship burns, that ship burn?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh man? What he did off that? He said?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Ready you care? How nigga damn fly sipping all of
this purple day got me too damn high. They teld
me life is a dream. I'm playing two damn side.
I'm like, niggas ain't lawyer? What bitches ain't lawyer? Voices
in my head saying niggas ain't for you. But when
they're looking Sonny, them niggas that rain on you. What

(41:16):
is a dark cloud over me? Money to control of me?
I'm barely getting time to see my son, and that
shit hurting me. Baby mama tripping out. I'm trying to
work with me.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I'm on patation, still strap because niggas want to murder me.
What are okay? Okay, you fuck with me? With me?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Okay, DC one like DC three, huge two. Some niggas
go to college. Some niggas go to hell with him
and kiss meet three. I got it though, kissing there, Yeah,
got it? Don't kiss it? What's your favorite kids? Verse?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Don't even say yeah, hold on, think about it, just
think about it. Hold on, you got it.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm sorry. Kiss versus is all about of Benjamin's.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm about
to ask you, matter of fact, what's your what's your
favorite kids? Verse?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Kissing your top five?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I gotta put kissing my top five? What's your favorite kids?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Like? The money? Power?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Respect? Okay, the victory? Okay, kiss like kiss don't get
enough credit. You really don't kiss, even the new up
to date kiss. But he did he did after that verse,
after the verses.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
But look what it had to take for him to
get that.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, but that was a very that was a very
legendary moment.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Brook Like, see this ship is hard because it's.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Like fab we got fab Yeah the Grizel does we
got Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, Yeah, Bennie and Conway man say them boys, them boys,
them boys, they they in my rotation faithfully, ah.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
The last one. And I got a different respect for
Ni absolutely. So it's like, man, who can I put
at that last spot?

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Man?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Because I oh ship.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
See I'm not a nice type of person. No, I'm
not any What is it about Esco?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
You don't like?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's I can't. I just can't put like he don't
move my like he don't move my.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Gears okay, like like like you got a couple of
songs that I definitely funk with, but he just don't.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Move my giars to say damn like you don't WITHDIC
Yeah I do. But it's not nothing crazy, Like it
ain't something I got in rotation.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Not something I got in rotation.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Like how many times have you heard ematic? A couple
of times? Like I'm I come from a house of
hip hop.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Wou tang? Like not for that I put the mix
in my tipe off. Okay, okay, I'll put X in
my time five.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Top five all over the place, but I put X
in my time file like, I'm not an l L
type of nigga.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm not a NAS type of nigga. So this is
a queen's thing. It's it's it's not a queen. But
what I was like, Okay, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Even in my top five, I can say I would
even do fifty cent because he had an impact on
my life. That givers god trying. Oh I thought I
was fifty cent tank tops on chain.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
You don't like conscious niggas, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Pretty much. You said it right. I'm not that conscious rapper.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
You don't like conscious niggas. What's wrong with conscious niggas
is not wrong with it wrong with the last.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Person I'm putting.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
G Z and that ship Okay, yeah, you you want
all your niggas selling bricks.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
They're talking that talk, that money ship. I like that ship. Yeah,
give me that.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
I like that ship, that money talk like, yeah, that
conscious speaking.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Like I like cold too. I like cold. I can
listen to cold more than open them.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
But really, why uh, it's just something about cold flow
his work like wordplay.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I'm big one work cold word. So Kendrick like you done?
He's like, ain't no Kendrick for you with Kendrick. Not
I don't sit in the house and listen to Kendrick
all day?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Why I gotta be all day?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Why you can't just listen to it every now and there?
Give me? Give me? I ain't with you, But the
did J cole Bro said Kendrick give him headaches? Bro? Yeah, Kendrick,
what you mean? Can you give me?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Why does he make you think?

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Dude? You bust your head sometimes? God damn this ship
on when we put young Thug on?

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Like, oh no, that's no way, that's crazy, you said
he So you're putting Young Thug on as a palate cleanser.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
The Kendrick Lamar not for nothing? Dog, just move my game?
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I can't let you do. I can't let you get
that off.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Kendrick. Is that nigga?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
But I'm not that bro? You you bro? You chasing
a shot of Kendreck Lamar with with Young Thug.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
When Kendrick sitting me down and I need to take
that hyper pill.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
How many Kendricks albums you don't listen to keep it
a stack.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Like, let's go through the first album. That's the first album. Yeah,
I love that album.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
You love that album album. She's talking about the games.
You like that ship. That's your bad okay, But to
Pipper Butterfly, they didn't do that for you.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
You're a buggy.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
You're bugging. It's not that. That's that conscious. Ship's conscious.
You want that.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
You heard that whole album paper But hold on, gag no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
No no.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
This this is what we're about to do. This is
what we better do.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
What I want to be with you.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
No, that's damn.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Oh yeah, I fun with damn album. Damn damn.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
See, this is what we're about to do. If I
got to mute this ship, we'll mute this ship. But
this is what we're about to do. Hold on, I
just I just need to.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
I just need to.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I just need you to hear just a little bit
of this. Okay, hold on you ready, I'm about to
put the phone in your hand.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Hold on, let me to be giving conscious already. Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (47:57):
Hold on, just get a couple of bars, a couple
of bars, right, conscious?

Speaker 4 (48:24):
What is it as you listening.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Hold on as you listening to this right now, let
me turn it down this a little bit because because
I wanted to still be as you listening to this
right now? What is it that you don't like? What
are you identifying that you don't like. I'm not saying
I don't like his music. I'm what I'm saying, like,
when you're listening to this, though, what is it that
you're picking apart that's like this, that that, this, like.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
This, this?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
This is a song I gotta listen to over and
over because right now that's really standing out to me.
It is just the beat you'd like to beat. It's
the beat, okay, like the beach reaching out to me.
It's like I listened to before, I say, this is
a great album. I gotta listen to the Ship over
and over. The really hit the new one he Dropped.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Is a good album. G X.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Yeah, gen X is good with that album.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, but I understand why you fuck with that album
because it's it's closer to you than it is, like
it's made to be to bridge the gap between you're
not liking the Conscious Ship and then you're still sucking
with Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Yeah, album that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I'm just not a can I like the Dirks, I
like the Baby like the Damn.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I forgot Wayne? How I forget Wayne Gang? Like Little Wayne?

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Can you forget Wayne Gang?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Like? Music?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Like I said, music put me in different moves. Right,
I'm in the strip club. I want to hate some change. Okay,
I want to hit j Z. When I'm in the
strip club. It's tuned about that Z make you want
to stand on couches, no money. You're a boss when
you're in the clubs that j Z.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Then when I'm talking to the kids, I could, I
know I can't.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Oh that's when you're fucking whatever. When you want to
talk to the kids.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
You see nigga nigga, nigga gonna raise your kids to
be great man, And it's like, yeah, but I don't
funk with you though.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
I don't fuck with you though.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
But if you're teaching my kids how to beat self
worth and ship, then it's cool.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
But you you you can pick little pizzas and the
parts of all different music and yeah, it's like all right.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Everybody says, say what's your favorite JZ verse? My favorite
Z verse? I guess who's but Zack?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Still that Doug Motive like I like g like Jez
got a whole body of like different like him and Neo.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
She said, that's my ship. I love that.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I love Peace up a Time Dawn like, that's my ship.
Dug Motivation, the Dug Motivation album, that's him, fab kiss
damn right, like Jez got some ship people sleep on
like they don't give g Z enough credit when we

(51:09):
throw it. When you throw the King of the South
out there, I feel like people don't throw.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
His name out there too much.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, that's true. I don't.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I don't feel it.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I relate to j Z more than I rate to
relate to t I why, It's just, it's just talking
about j Z, like when Jeez talked, you can.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
See that picture. You don't feel like that about Tip. No,
Tip is more.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I think Jez got bigger songs than Tip, but I
think Tip makes better music though I think so. Yeah,
I think t I makes better music than Jez. I
think Jez got bigger records, bigger songs, though he probably
packed a bigger stadium than t I any day. But
Tia is a better rapper, and I think he makes
better songs. I think you think I don't think so

(51:56):
I think if they was to sell, if they was
put to it's out right now and try to sell
that venue.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
T way quicker than I don't know, man speaking maybe
with all that he's done, like gz his voice, the
unique voice to laugh.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Like like I feel like people don't give young enough,
just like I feel like people don't get fab enough.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
People love fab though, especially in New York.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
In New York, yeah, but else.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
People love fab another places trust and believe flat fab
Fab get flowers.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Now he gets flowers, but not like how he's supposed to.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Well, the thing is, it's a lot of rappers, bro.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
And then like the thing is with our culture, we
we we keep doing this top five thing. It doesn't
leave space for any It don't leave space for a lot.
You got to really condense people in when when when
you when you think like that, So it's hard for
him to get flowers when it's like a top five.
It's like, oh, well I don't got I don't got
room for nothing else. But what needs to be here

(53:00):
if you put like nervouss that I'm putting fab in it.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Fab is great.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Fab word play is different. Fab is great.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
But see, like when you think about like a top
five for example, that question, like you think you're considering everything.
You're considering like just rapping ability from like a from
like a literal perspective, you know, I mean, you're considering
like B selection, you're considering like album curating production, you
know what I mean, influence, you know what I mean,
Like it's a lot and so sometimes like fab like

(53:29):
he can get in there a couple of ways, but
in some other ways he can't. He gonna get punched
out because then it's like there's people who do it on.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
A higher level than you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
And that's no disrespect to him, definitely, definitely, Yeah, it's
just not when you're talking about top five, it's like
it's easy for him to not make it and rappers
like him because it's like, oh, his own top five.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Like when you look at jay Nas.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I'm not a big Eminem fan, but like the niggas
mentioned Eminem and Ship, it's like it's not future, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
It's like you don't you know, yeah about Dirty Spry Too?

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Classic I was in Vegas when that came out. Dirty
Spry Too is classic.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Smoking girl Scout, I've been in the fucking bag Classic.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm gonna listen that on my way home. That's what
I listened to when I want to get on some
gangster ship. I listened to Dirty Spike too.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
That's that's your ship. That's my gangster ship.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
You're looking down on my gangster ship. What's your what's
your gangster ship?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Smart? Huh? Smart? What's that dirt? That's my gangster ship, Nigga.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
That's your gangster ship.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Bro Dirt, Yeah, my gangster ship. People like dirt, gangster this, that.
But if you really listened to.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Some of the dirt songs, n he be, Yeah, he
be with the ship. He's not gangster ship. He's snapping.
He's really talking to the streets the ship. When he
said he the boys of the streets. I take that
in what about Little Baby Fox with Baby? But I'm
more I listen to more dirt than Baby. Like, what's

(55:07):
your favorite album from Smart?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Just period? Oh? In life and life.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I don't even know if I know the answer to this.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
It's too many albums.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Give me, give me, give me, give me three. Give
me three of your favorite mixtapes. Five mixtapes? Yeah, three
of your five favorite mixtapes. Give Me dream Chaser, okay,
Chaser one.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Give Me Dream Chases two? Okay, give Me a Little Way?
Is that the drought? Uh? No? Little Way dedication? Mm hmm.
Three Man Wayne had to So.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Tape by fab Okay with that, that's four.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
That's for Yeah. Rich Fever was an album. I think
it was a mixtape. I think it was. It was
a mixed That's fine, Okay, I'm still leaving ja, Like,
how do you feel about Freddy versus Jesson? It was good.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
I need to run it back. It's been it's been
a minute. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I feel like when it comes to music, most of
the time, especially these days, I'm expecting to to not be.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
To not fall head over heels in love with the music.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
I think that's too much expectation these days. I think
music is really hard. And sometimes music is about like
right time, right place, it's a moment thing. Sometimes it's
not about like I got the I got the certain skill.
I can just go in and just make Sometimes it's
like when it happens, it happens, bro.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
And trickling down in the podcast.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Right on one song that represents Wolf.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
One song, it's tough man.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
He said, you gotta pick this song to describe wolf.
What would it be?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
That's tough man. Probably gonna go with just off top
just right away. There's there's multiple answers to this, and
there's probably even better answers to this, but for right now,
I'm gonna go with j Cole two D for the intro. Yeah,
partially functional. Half of me is comfortable. The other half
is close to the cliff, like Missus Huxtable. Them boys

(57:34):
packed them hostes and cliffs. They packed like lunchables like
white boys in grade school while we a school made food.
Just eyeing. They ship which I was trying. They ship
no one. When mama hit the store, she wouldn't buying
that ship. I ain't crying a bit, man. That just
like that's how that shit work. You reach your hand
to fire, you pull it back when you get burned.
Gotta learn when you get hurt, even if it's with cupid.
He beat you when you went back. He's a he's

(57:55):
a he's officially stupid. Oh yeah, I understand that's your man.
You had a plan together for sticking to get as fuck.
I don't know, but it's like, bro, Bro, that's that
that song fuck like white boys in grade school while
we a school may food just iron they ship, which

(58:15):
I was trying, they ship. No one would mama hit
the store. She wouldn't buying that ship Like I can
relate to that, you know. I remember watching kids have
lunchables and ship and being like, damn, like I don't
have that.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
You know what I mean? I got, I got what
I got, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Music and white music was to get wiped out today.
You could pick one album to live with? What would
it be? That's so tough, that's so tough. What would
it be? And what do this album do for you?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
There's no right answer to this. Definitely not one album.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
One album that you would have to live with and
do this album.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
It's very few albums that I like from top to bottom.
I think a lot of the time I love albums.
So like when I say I love an album, sometimes
it's like I'm almost going off of a curve because
it's like I like four songs out of it that
I love to death. That forget the songs I don't like.
Because I like the four songs. It's a great album. Right,

(59:13):
But when I think about, like if I'm on this,
I'm listening to one.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Fuck are we being a specific? You say album? So
like no mixtape, me.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Mix tape, album, whatever you whatever you want to make.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
This is tough. There's no right answer to this. So
I'm gonna just say, for.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
The fuck man, I'm gonna say for mixtape, it's definitely
gonna be some cold ship. It's definitely gonna be it
could be warm up or Friday Nightlights. As far as
mixtape for an album, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Oh man, it should make you.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Think, This should make you want to go your phone
if you scrolling albums, are really listening, And what's fucked
up is that's not even gonna help me because it's
so much that's not even gonna help me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Impacts of life like dreams of night man, that ship
it does hard for me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
That's not even gonna help me. I don't really think
I have an answer for that. I wish I did,
I wish I did. I don't have an album, album, album, album, album, album, album, album,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Well listen, what what what about you? What's your answer
to that? It's hard.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I can go with jay Z for for fall, really yeah, reasonable,
I go with I could go with Meek Mills.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Mixtapes. I can go with the rich.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
The Rich album like one album that we're listening to,
like god.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Damn album that's gonna repeat.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Currency could easily be in my time file too. But anyway, whatever, I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Want to play safe, just chick, Just give me rod
Wave ghetto gospel. Hey, rocking out off. Really I'm crying,
I'm singing. I feeling like a soul jump beating on
my chut Broadway ghetto gospel. So I'm gonna go Jacole.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Friday night Lights or warm Up, and then I'm gonna
also go Dom Kennedy from West Side would love too.
These are two projects that I like, almost love all
the way top to bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I can fuck with the Black album.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I fuck with Malibu by Anderson Park. That's another album
I like top to bottom. There's not a lot of
albums that I like top to bottom. You know, if
I'm just being honest with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Myself, album to listen, listen.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
To listen to Illmatic, You bugging not like bro one Love?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
What up? Kid?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
I know Ship was rough doing your bit when the
cops came. You should have slid to my career, fucking black.
No time for looking back, it's done plus congratulations. I
heard you had a son. I heard he looks like you.
Why don't your lady write? You told her she's sufficient.
That's when she got hyper flipping talking about the acts
too rough. He didn't listen. He'd be riffing while I'm
telling him stuff. I was like, yeah, Surety, don't care.
She a snake too, fucking with the niggas from that

(01:02:15):
fake crew that hate you. But yo, guess who got
shot in the done piece. Jerome's niece on our way
home from Jones Beaches. Bug like that nigga bro Bro
he wrote a three part letter to his man's in
jail bro in third verse spooky spooky, third verse spooky
bro spooky like, I don't know what nigga who's telling
the street life like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Esco Brood good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Good like telling the street life like Esco like in
full detail, in full detail.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Big Biggie Smalls not like Esco bro not in full detail.
Because the thing is the way nas raps he fits in.
Let's say, like a verse sixteen bars. He's getting in
more more information than Biggie Smiles. Not to say that
Biggie like Biggie obviously, he do a lot with a little.
That's what makes him so great. He's like the greatest

(01:03:08):
minimalist rapper to ever exist.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
It's like he just a few words and you get
it all. You get the whole fucking picture. But Nas like,
I'm telling you, like third verse one, love exceptional Bro.
I'm talking exceptional work is unbelievable. Like how he put
those words together. I didn't like fuck man, Bro. If
I'm met Nas, I will cry. I will cry if

(01:03:32):
I'm met Nas, I would cry Bro Like I really, man,
Nas mean a lot to me, Bro, for real. He
he on the dreamk guest list for Shure. If you
were going yeah, because they've got to get in here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Five artists that you will love with your.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Podcast, common Yeah, nas Dom Kennedy, common Dom Kennedy, Joey Badass.
I'm gonna go past five. I'm sorry, j Cole, Big Sean,

(01:04:12):
Kendrick mac Miller's dead. That would have been great. Yes,
I can, I can, I can, Ben Need the Butcher.
I think this is very possible ship too. That's the
crazy part. I'm gonna leave it there. That's a whole

(01:04:33):
I'm not I wouldn't say oh, because I just feel
like that's not possible, like now that it's not possible,
but I just feel like that's such.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
A stretch, just like forget about it. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Anything's possible that I know it, but it's just like
it's fine, like Hope, don't want to be bothered by me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
You really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
And I'm okay with that. But I would be honest though,
if I could make that happen. What about you give
me ja Ja, give me Meek Meek, that's super possible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Ross, give me fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Meek and Ross. You can make happen easy. I see
that for you. Give me fifth, I can see that too,
Uh Meek Ross Jay Meek, that's fall fifth.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Jaden.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Give me kiss yep, I definitely kiss give me let's see.
I want, I want, I want smirt, dirt Okay, I
love the dirt. I would love a dog, your dog, yeah,
I would love dog. Okay. I love g Z too, Okay,

(01:05:40):
I love to see that with Jeezy. Raw Wave. Definitely
give me raw Wave.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
And a lot ten ended. I'm gonna ended on a female.
Give me two more. Give me missy, give me a
little kid okay, no, yeah, missy Little Kim give me
train or two sexy give me give me Jim Jones two.
I definitely want to say that with Jim Jim Jones
was definitely part of my growing up reason and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
All that we gotta wrapt.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, we gotta get Jones is super possible for you
to get on the part.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, but the words of the Great Man hold the Joneses.
Can't keep up stuff of my nigga noads. But I
got strung as to eat the Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Well we're going into that note.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Thanks for coming back for another episode of Flowing Up
Seat show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Well, we're here to get in for you that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
You can find me at the Halfway Up podcast. So
I am Wolf Taylor. It's a self development podcast. Yeah, man,
just just here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
You know what, Man, the words of the Great jay Z.
I will not lose.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I'm number one on everybody list. Know, let's see what
happens when I know no longer exist?

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Fuck this ship? What more can I say? Flying Step,
Fuck this ship
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