Living In New York Isn't Worth It ?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to get married?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
You want to settle down. I lived my life, I
did it all. I've seen it all, done it all.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's only one thing to accomplished, and that's marriage. Never
I never, never did it. That's something I want to
dance with my mother. I want to dance with my bride.
I want to dedicate myself, my life to somebody.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
But why else, though, Like, what are the other reasons
why you want to get married?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I want to get married.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, I deserve it. It's so much I just want
to give to one person.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
What are you looking forward to?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Like?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
What you think you're gonna get a marriage?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Not for nothing? Know what it is? It's like, I
feel like messing with different women don't move me no more.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I feel like I'm I'm trying to find different parts
of a woman to equal one person. M No, I
don't it. Don't move me no more. I get bored
quick off a conversation, boy, and they'd be like, all right,
sure they can be like yo, I get bored.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I don't like. I don't want it no more.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
What do you think it is about messing with multiple
women that you're the most tired of?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now? It's tight, trying to please everybody. M hm. I
want to please one person.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I want to understand one person I believe in, like
I don't want too many Like soul tis like I
don't want too many, so on me. It's like pleasing everybody,
different personalities, different attitudes.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Then you can keep that.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Ship spending money on people that you really know, that
invest in.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
And sometimes we don't even get to that point because
it's like I've lost interest in you that fast, those
interesting to you fast. But we're gonna get into it
back at it for another episode of Blinder. I see show,
I'm your host, FOBC.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, no, goddamn fuck it. See No, it's like that.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'm bad one because it's like I come to the studio,
I'm SEENO, but I go to cloud like for what
we seen.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's like I'm battling this person right now.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
But yoh man, the clubs I walk into clubs is
like yo, It's like, damn it is this all? You know,
the official blonde stuff for the voice of the Disabler's
blond lighting. You know we here, you know where we're
at two sixty five Canal Shoot, where dreams happened when
Magic happens. But blind probably gonna take off on from
this couch.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
You already know.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And I'm here with my dog Wolf already once again.
Happy forth with your love people, happy for your lit things.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm blessed.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I just feel blessed. Man, things coming in, sponsors, hit
people hitting me up. I want to promote products on
my show.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I just feel blessed. Just I can't.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I have no complaints. When I wake up, It's just like, damn,
I'm alive.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Niggas be powding for years, bro, and don't be getting
no sponsored nothing, bro. Niggas like, I don't want my
product on your little lame ass podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
He will be pawning for years.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That's how PEO were feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Lot yo.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I walk and it's like I'm in the club last
week and I'm just in up there and they was like,
I'm surprised you here, the girls, I'm surprised you here.
I'm like, why do you say that? She said you famous?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'm like I am. I said, ship my Baker. I
don't say that. She like, Yo, I seen your podcast
all over this thing on TikTok. I comment. You see
my comment.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I'm like nah, I don't be chucking TikTok every day,
say y'all comment on it. And she just she was
just going through my podcast and telling me different episodes,
and I'm like, damn, people really watch it, telling me
what she enjoyed about it, Like what makes her laugh
on funny show? You got a good personality. She just talking.
I'm like, thank you. I give her a hug and
she started laughing and she like, like, what's wrong with you?

(03:37):
She said, you make me nervous. I said, I make
you nervous.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
She said, yeah, I never nobody of yes Stature never
hugged me before.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm like, real, thank you, dad. Did I get a
contract that I didn't know about her? I would sleep
behind well.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Perception is such a crazy thing because sometimes when people
see like the content that you got and the like
the content that you've done that's performed really well. I mean, Bro,
you got clips that have done several thousands of views. Bro, definitely,
and for a fact, people have definitely taken your content
and repurposed it on So that type of stuff, you know,

(04:16):
for somebody who don't really understand the inner workings, because
you know, you got to think about it. They don't
know that we out here trying to figure out. You know,
it's hard to get the type of guests we want
to get, like obviously you want to have like guests
that also share a disabled experience, but they're not They're
not easy to get because they probably got somebody managing they.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Fucking account heavy on it, heavy on it.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know, they don't know about that shit.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
You're mad disables on TikTok man.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
The crazy thing about it is right, She said, Oh,
I've seen when when Wolf came in here.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I said, you've seen when Wolf came in like wonder
come here?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Like, I'm confused. I forgot you came that that Friday. Yeah,
I've seen it, I said, So you say nothing, She
said no. I was just sitting back like, damn, like
they really in there, I said, flesh Baby, I said,
that's crazy, Like they really they look at us like celebrities. Now,
there ain't a lot of podcasts. It's like you don't
got to get that million out of contract to really

(05:10):
be a celebrity to people. No, that's the crazy thing
about it. And I just realized that I'm like, damn,
I'm really I'm really a.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Celebrity to tell a lot of people I think more
important than the celebrity. Like people can't acknowledge that it's
the work you're doing, you know what I mean. Like
you're a young black man who's had challenges that most
people couldn't even fathom, and yet you're still showing up
every single day. You're a full time father, You're a
full time content creator, you know what I'm saying. So
I think people like, really they see like.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You represent hope, bro Yah, represent hope.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Because if you can do it, why the fuck a
lot of people ain't doing it?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Why the fuck can't somebody else doing it?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
If you doing it?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
This week right here along, I sat there and said,
I worked ten times harder than a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I really had to ask myself, Damn, do I gotta
like take my feet off the gas a little to
let these niggas.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm around people and I'm just like, damn, what doing
with your life? Bush? Hey?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I even told a couple of people, Yoh, you need
a job? Bullsh this Ain't it just like yo?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Imagine a nigga hearing from a nigga if that's blind
like this, Ain't it like your soul must be crushed
after that.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
People don't cherish a lot of ship.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Bro, Like the worst thing, the best thing you can did,
and the worst thing that people is put me on
Chat GBT.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I love that ship. Bro when I ate no funny
shit like I've been in my bag on chat GBT
last couple of days. I'm telling you asking that motherfucker.
So tell me about slavery and don't get me started, bro.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
A couple of digital products. Yeah, don't get me started.
I can really turn. I want to shoot them out.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Hey, anybody that's listening to this ship right now, whatever
the fuck you don't know, I'm I just want to
let you know from GBT, you no longer have an
excuse on Earth. I'm asking Chat GBT, so tell me
about them. Like I'm on bro, I'm like, am I
an anthropologist?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
My nigga?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
You know what I'm saying? Like anthropology is the stuff
body of the human race and shit. But I'm like,
I'm asking the questions like, Okay, so you know, how
how did your how did white people even come to exist?
How did Mexican people come to exist? What happened to
the Native Americans? You know what I'm saying, I'm asking
a certain question. It's telling me everything. I'm sitting here like, god, damn,
look are you hitting it with history history? It's teaching

(07:20):
me to be hitting it with business. How to amend
the business, how to grow a business, how to.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Get business credit, how to get business funded, what's the
best banks? And it's just spinning it out for me.
I'm like, damn, I'm like yo, and it's crazy. Like
a couple of days ago, I'm sat down, I asked
the question it is, I said, Damn. It took me
five minutes, not even two minutes, just to get this
answer when I've been working to find this shit.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Out for months. Whether you can see or not, you
know what I mean. It's like the way you can
get to it instantly, like Chad JBT is truly like
the most incredible fucking tool ever. And like you said,
I've been I've been listen and I've been talking to
it to you know, brush about my history. You know
where I come from and what we really what we
what it really looked like to have been us? Like

(08:06):
how do we get to the version of us that
we are today? Right? Like everybody knows slavery but like deeper,
like let me understand. But then I was asking it
the other day. I was just like, you know what
I'm saying, like, how do you reverse engineer gentrification? Like
how do black people go to some white people shit
and and take that shit and take it over? You
know what I'm saying. That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
The ship likes that's different. That's different. That's different. I'm like,
I love chat now. I see Canva got ai in
in now?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Like they can make thumbnails without even but we gotta
pay for a thumbnat to get made.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, bro, yo, if you're listening to this right now,
bro use chat GBT.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
You can't be like, well I don't know, you better
ask that motherfucker chat GBT.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Canva hold it? Man, stop being ignorant, museic you. It
just help.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
It just increasing your availability, your ability, Like it's given
more time for you to do more things.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Capital lives off fit absolutely. But yeah, so I want
to get married. You want to get married me at
the yati?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
What getting It's crazy? Right?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's like you know, you get around a person like
like people ask me, how do you know when it's
the right one? When when you are around that person
and you just can't stop smiling, can't stop. I'll be tweaking.
I'm like, shout out to dollars man, congratulations, but shout
out to dollars man his prone. That one came around,

(09:35):
and it's like for dollars she came and I'm just like,
damn that dad feeling is. I'm like, just take me
with you, like put me in your pocketbook.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Just take me with you.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
That's how you know when it's the one I said,
I gotta get married. I gotta I gotta buckle that.
I said them down like entertaining too many women.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's not for me no more. I have my fun.
Thirty five, I'll be thirty five. I have my fun.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I've been doing this shit since I was thirteen, twelve, thirteen,
so it's like I had.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
A good run in it. I'm a veteran. They could
hang my jerseys up in there and the rafters right now.
I don't want no more.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
What do you think is the biggest issue with chasing
multiple women.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's tiring, it's a headache.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
You're learning different personalities, you're dealing with person different personalities.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You spend it unnecessary money.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
They try to make everybody happy, and it's like if
you had them, if you had one, you had them all.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So it's like, what is I'm really chasing?

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I feel like when men chase different women, it is
like you looking at I like her attitude, I like
her body, I like her tone, I like what she
do for me, And it's like all.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
These different girls bringing different things, but it's not just one.
Do you feel like chasing multiple women is a waste
of time for a man in his thirties?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Hell yeah, right right now, you're supposed to be locking in,
trying to settle down right now. You had your phone
when you when you was in your teens, in your twenties, thirties,
right now, you shit, it's like when you really developing life,
what you really want to be in life, what you
really want in life, like thirty five?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right now, I'm not thinking about Jane and Sarah and robbing.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm not thinking about all that. I just want one.
I want to wake up to one somebody I could trust.
I don't got it, Dan, Can I trust her?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Do you think it's realistic for a man to be
committed to one woman for the rest of his life?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Hell yeah? One percent?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
It is because I I had that one. I wanted
the I wanted the other girls. Right now, when I
I lose that one and I get what I wanted,
I'm running back to that one.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Niggas don't talk. Niggas don't talk about.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
That now, they don't. They definitely don't.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Eighty.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know what I'm saying, it's eighty twenty.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
So when you lose your eighty for your twenty and
then you and then you get the twenty that you
want it, but now you done lost the eighty.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Should be ninety ten.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh it's ninety ten, ten, ninety ten?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Can that ninety?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I haven't found nobody that even give me eleven ten.
I mean, nobody give you eleven fifteen twenty. They're giving
me less than ten. I had somebody that was cooking, cleaning,
making sure I was good, pleasing.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Me in the bedroom, loving on me, loving me for
who I am.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Everything to these girls don't cook. Their attitudes is nasty.
They want to spend your money, like, no, my ninety.
I'm like, let's go to the movies.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Why go to the movies. We can save that money.
Let's watch it on botleg. I said, that's the type
of girl. I adn't get it at first. I ain't
get it. I'm like, why are we watching this?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Like I see my check, I'm trying to go to
the movies, like, but it really it's like she saved
me money. We could not even over saving money. We
could put this on boutleg you could, I could sit,
I could lay up under you. It's more intimate than
going to the movies. I could lay up under you.
I could cook, we could see it, we could eat,
we could drink. I could lay up under you. You

(13:02):
can hold me while we watched this movie.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Do you think it's realistic to be looking for love
in New York City?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It is realistic. It's definitely realistic. But don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
In the process of all of this, you're gonna have
to really rebuild, rebuild a woman because you're gonna have
to rebuild a woman. You got to rebuilder because no, lie,
when you come across a good woman, best of belief,
that heart is scarred bad, especially in New York.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
You're saying, like, not.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Even just to know New York all over, I feel,
so you better get your tape and you better have
your duct tape and your crazy clue to fix that
heart because best of believer, it's a couple of men
that tore that woman down mentally.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
So you're saying, if you're looking for love, just dating period,
regardless of what city you live, and you need to
be resumen. You need to realistically be prepared to help
that lady hell through some traumas she got through dating
before she got to you.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
She gotta trust you. You gotta help her trust you.
You can't expect how to feel. Oh, I never did
nothing wrong, so you got to trust me. Nah, you
got to show that she could trust you.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, do you think it's the other way around too, Like,
based off the the trauma that a guy has had
through dating before he met a girl who's probably the one,
do you think it's also her job to help him here?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, both jobs is heit in hand. That's why our
relationship is fifty to fifty. It ain't no or a
man one hundred percent. Nine is fifty to fifty. It's
a job we both. It's like we be working on
the project. I need your fifty percent. You got my
fifty percent. That's capitalizing make this work's let's complete this project.
Sometimes you see your your significant other falling short. All right,

(14:38):
let me put in overtime because she needs She's not
giving me fifty right now, she giving me forty.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
All right, let me take up.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Let me make up for the tempercent that she's losing
to make this your work. If you really love that person,
you're gonna do whatever it takes to make it work.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
What do you think is the hardest part about dating
in New York City? New York City specifically trust? Trusting
women as part of this just trusting each other period
and trusting each other, trusting people.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Ain't me I have? I have trust issues?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Why Because it's like I can see a girl on
line and I love my men and this that and
the third.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
World we were, and then I go in to the club,
you sexy rad It's like it wasn't you just from Valentine?
They hugged up with like that that do be happening,
But then you all up in my face. Oh see no,
give me a hug.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I love you, rubbing on my face, you want to
kiss on my cheek? And this that I'm like, but
wasn't she just she was just.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
A love Instagram post stories They and I out this.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's trust big trust. That's that's that's my biggest thing.
And I'm like, Yo, if you can do this to hell,
you can do this to me.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Surety. It's the difference.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
And then I've seen I walked in the club, girls
running jump on me, wraps around me.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh, I love you.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
See you know you be playing too much? You played
this day and then my move? Do you run into
the next promoter? I said, God, damn, she.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
A busy body, you remember. That's yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Then it's like not even.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
It's times when we outside after a party, five in
the morning, we outside just talking vibing. Sure, they'll call
my phone. Oh what you're doing. I'm like, I ain't
doing nothing onside, I'm still outside. Oh goe me when
you're going, I'm trying to come over. God, I got
you hang up, Like I'm not called all back damn.
But them that nigga next to me for rigging his home.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Nah, you're being honest.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I swear to God, bro, you swear to godwwe my
son life.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
But she calling him for what reason?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
The same thing picked up. She's like, oh, come get me.
She's trying to get some dig tonight, yo. But the
whole time she's on Instagram. I love my baby. Nah, bro,
that's that's my biggest issue.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, let me ask you this, though, Do you think
that's something that's more specific to a certain type of
girl or you are you portraying this lack of trust
to like women in general?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Mm hmmm, I can't. I pl like this. Right, they're
in the clubs, they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Okay, I'm quite sure they're doing it in the churches.
I'm quite sure they're doing it in the churches.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I'm being really honest.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Like, so, it's specifically the girls in the club, like girls.
So what you're saying is girls in the club.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
You kind of it's not it's not a high percentage
of women that you out here you can trust.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
In the club or just in life.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
In life in general.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like I know, my thing is it's a small percentage
of good women, right, some of them is married, the
rest of them is hurt.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, so you kind of got to make the best
with what you got.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's like you gotta make It's how you gotta throw
your hooking to see and see what you're gonna pull out.
I'm sure women feel the same way about us, though,
not one thousand one thousand percent. It's definitely go both ways.
But the majority of our.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Good women is hurt and the rest is married.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know, sometimes I feel like an anomaly in that
sense because you know, a lot of people are coming
through pain and trauma and you know, just fucked up
things that they've been through. But I've never been traumatized
through a relationship. You know, I've been cheated on before,
and I will say that that definitely was a traumatizing feeling.
The feeling of betrayal, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It's a tough thing man, especially it's the other way
around because I'm the one that did hurting.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Oh, you're the villain in the story.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I'm the villain, and I'm man enough to say that
I'm the villain. I hurt people I had, I made
females cry. Yeah, good women, y I made him cry
to a point. Now, First of all, police, I'm like,
damn all that you still perk me?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
No good this? That, and the third like they could
take the eyes out of you, but they can't take
see no out of you.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm just like, so let me ask you this. Do
you feel like in a lot of ways you still
receiving Calma for the way you treated women in your past.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Mm hmm. I want to say Calma, Okay, what would
you say? I want to say my Camma. I feel
like my Calma. Everything I did in my past like
Calma and washed it away like Calma hit me. It
hit me in my ass for sure, But now in
my space, I feel like I don't put myself out
there to receive back for anybody to hit me. Yeah,

(19:23):
because no, I'm focused on to know what I want. Yeah,
I don't got to go search and I just know
what I want. It just whenever she felt like, maybe
he did change his life, maybe he is different. Maybe
I can't take a chance. I don't think I'm gonna
get hurt from him again.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
You said she, Yeah, you're talking about a specific, specific,
specific person.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
You know she knows years you know whose is did
she did she listen to this podcast? Yeah, every now
and then because she y'all listen to it. I got
her listened, I got her into podcasts. Right now, you
should send it this episode Herble Decisions. She listened to
herb Decisions.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
We are you gonna send it this episode?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
If she done this somebody else?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I know, But I'm asking you will you send her
this up?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, I definitely might.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, So look, since you're gonna send it this episode, listen,
I think that when you got some free time, you
should allow my man's right here, Christopher C Note the Great,
you should allow him to take you on a date,
something real nice. You know what. Let's make make it
a day date, a full day, real expansive type ship.

(20:32):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Hit multiple spots. Shit can be the weekend, we can
go on somebody beat.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
You gotta start slow, you gotta start slow, got start slow,
you know what I mean. Make it a day date,
y'all go out, y'all had a couple of spots. You'll
have a good time. He'll drop you off at your
house at the end of the night, you know what
I mean. And it'll be fun. Since he gonna send
this to you, you know what I mean. And so
I think he didn't listen. He did not tell me.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
To do this. This this straight freestyle. This straight freestyle.
All of this ship is freestyle.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
We didn't even get into none of the questions that
I got yet, none of that, you know what I mean.
But like off the freestyle ship, I think that you
should really consider that, and why I think that I
haven't known him as long as you have, and I
haven't known him as long as anybody else in his life.
I'm probably one of the newest additions to his life.
Of what I can say, he's a good guy, you
know what I mean. Very focused, very very focused, you

(21:20):
know what I mean, very ambitious.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's not a lot of it's niggas with eyes and
ears and all types. Niggas got sixteen legs and arms,
and they not doing They're not doing half of what
this man is doing.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
And I think that speaks very highly of a man's character.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
We be working shop, you working on her business.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
We be working. Oh so you know this already. Yeah,
So anyway, i'mnna get back to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Man, look at a rage man. I got a whole
new game player.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I have to break the Fourth War real quick. But
I really think you should consider letting him take you out.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Let him take you out. You don't got to pay.
You don't got to pay for a thing. Is that cool?
You don't got to pay for nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
You don't gotta pay for nothing. Let him take you
on a full day day.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Birthday this week.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I give her a prince. I give it a queen treatment.
My birthday Friday for work a Q it was the
queen treatment. I gave it a queen.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
What do you consider a queen?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
What do I say the queen?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah? How do you know when you found a queen?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
You just feel it. It's like.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It's hard to explain, but you just you just feel it,
like when that person could leave, when you're thinking about
that person.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, so let me ask you this then, because you
got to explain it, you know what I mean. So
like if your son, let's say, your son twenty seven,
you know what I mean. I don't even know how
that's gonna make you, you know what I'm saying. But
just your son twenty seven and he thinking that he
coming to you and he's like, you know, Dad, Like
I feel like I might have met the one, but

(22:40):
I'm not sure. Like what type of guy is information?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You give? What I'm telling him?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, how does she make you feel?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Do she care?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Like? Like like see like for me, it's different because
like this person care for me, This person actually loves me.
This person don't hear from me for a minute. She
reach out m Like I just want to tell you
that I love you, little ship. Like that whole hospital
run that I had me getting shot, that person was

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by my bed side, never left.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
That person washed me up, scratched the blood out of
my head. Yeah, that's fed to me.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's different.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I been with me through the stages when I had
a dad on washed me up, like not, no girl
in his work is saying, say they washed me up?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Bro, No girl. She stayed by my I was blinding
all like, it doesn't matter. I'm here.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I cried days, I cried. She sat there, she kissed
my eyes. That's love right there.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's a different type of that's a different type of
love right there.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Type of life.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And then the sacrifices. My son graduated, she had to work,
left work to decorate for his his pro and that's
stayed there for a minute, stayed there while he came
out and danced and all that, and then went back
to work and said, I'm gonna have to stay late.
I'm gonna have to stay later because I did the balloons.

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I sacrificed, and so christ for my sons, it's different.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So now about to get on your ass because I
just need to figure out, like, are you doing everything
that need that can be possibly done to get this
girl that you claim you want to be with so bad?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Everything?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Are you sure everything? Because then why does my fucking
take it?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You going on to day with you? Then I heard
all y'all people watching them pulling out a bag of
chips out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Like the movie with It. You got to get your
chips to shit Ready. I hurt this girl bad.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
So it's like, it's back there building the building process.
You said you did what I heard it bad, So
it's back to the building process.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Back to the building process.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, but how long are you gonna be building?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Until? She felt like, how long have you been building? I?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I can't just the most I've been consistent, okay, Like
i'd be consistent though ship for this see March okay,
because like I started. Yeah, it's like i'd be consistent. Well,
she says something I don't like, I go missing. Now

(25:21):
you can say.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Now, I'm like, yo, let's do that.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
She's like, nah, I'm good, all right, Cool, I'm ask
you next month, showing you that I'm consistent with it.
This is what I really want. I'm gonna get her.
I ain't way, but I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
It's sounds like you got apply enough pressure.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Man, it's sounds like you need to pop up where
she stays. Then you need to pop up at the
job with the roses in here.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
That was next.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
A motherfucker ain't gonna deny. Imagine you fulling up you listen,
Imagine motherfucker opened the door from work. They open the door.
You right there.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I got a whole situation.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I'm gonna tell you care you want to give up there?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, I got a whole situation that's coming out of
my body like I'm coming out of myself, my soul,
out of When nigga start talking like that, different, it's
an't different that nigga not fucking around niggas like, Yo,
I never expect you to do no shit like this.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Son, different, tell you off the walls type shit.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
But see no back though, man, see no feel good
Like I really had to say that, say to myself, Damn,
it was cool for a minute running in the streets,
but what did I get out of it?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Let me ask you this, how much are men to
blame for the dating pool having pissing it when it
comes to New York City?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
How much the men to blame Yay, why not a
hundred because you got and that. I can't say one
hundred because it's twenty percent of the women out here
that's fucked up on your own.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, but when we think, when you think about it,
how did the women get sucked up in the first place?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Now, it's some savages out here without getting sucked up
just off the rim, Yo, it's some females like here.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's like niggas sad You think.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
There was born that way like that? Nah, anybody's born
a savage, So I'm born a savage. Niggas get evil
in their hearts.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm telling you there's some women out here that could
be niggas.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
You think some people are born evil?

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, Now, matter of fact, you ain't born. You taught
it right, right right, So you can't just put one
hundred percent on a minute.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I put it.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I put it like this, bro. I think every single
thing that a woman does that we don't like, she
learned it from him man, even if that man was
the white man, right regardless. I think everything that we
don't like about her, Like like when talking we're talking
about mentality, I think mentality all of these things we

(27:53):
don't like our hundred percent for the most part, come
from man outside of things that we don't necessarily care for.
That just makes a woman and woman. You know, men
are from Mars, women are from Benre. So there's some
things there's just no connect. But I think, like like
sexy red, right, we talked about six read. I think
sexy red is an invention of some man made shit.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Do you think men did this?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now I gotta give them two women.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
No, I'm gonna listen, listen, listen, and whatever percentage you
want to give them if we're gonna if we're gonna
give them anything, it gotta be a real small piece
because again, like you gotta think about it. Like so
when we talk about women being hurt and needing the
heal through the pain, who hurt them?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, niggers? And then it's men out here that you're
getting hurt about women.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
But but you see, it's like a conversation of what
came first to chicken or the egg?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
You know what I mean, because we're talking about generations
of pain. Now, you know what I mean. Mad Motherfucker's
been divorced, Mad motherfucker's been going through shit, fighting over kids,
Daddy's not being in the picture, you know what I mean?
Because even girls who grow up without their father, that's
the man's fault technically, but.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Then their age and ever is more women walking out
of women, the more women walking out on the But.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
What is that? But where does that come from?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Though?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
If that comes from them not having it comes from
them not having the chance to see a proper relationship
between a man and a woman.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And why is that?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's because the nigga wasn't there. And I'm gonna say,
even if the nigga, even if let's say the baby
mama was wild and she was being like unproductive to
allowing that type of beautiful Cosby show type shit family
shit to happen, he should have never had a child
with that lady.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
You would never knowing too the baby. Comp You would
never know into the baby.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You sound like you know something, bro to break us
off with some wisdom. What what want you know?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
You never know a woman until the baby get there.
I never know your child mother into the baby Combs, never.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Say that one more time with a little bit more.
That's sound like the beginning of a clip.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
You never know a woman into that child out comes.
For instance, me and my baby. Were cool.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Now were great now, like we friends talk like give
each other advice, be there for each other. But once
my son came, we had drama. Mhmm, we had drama
back and forth.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Drama.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Why it's it's emotions in there. It's people in there,
like people not minding a business. Everybody got to sign
signing to say it's like so it was. It was
confusion now that and we was young. Now that we're older,
we understand each other.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
We don't argue. Me and I used to always argue.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
We don't argue no more. We understand each other, like
we don't be for none at all. Sometimes you called
me a just event to me like we cool, best
friends type shit.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I give advice, nah, do this, this, that and the third.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Don't get comfortable, like, don't let nobody see you, like,
share your things. She hang up the phone, like, Yo,
you was an asshole back then. Now you you do
a person. I run to h we cool, we locked in.
There's no love loss.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Be great the way I look at it. Bro with
great power, yeah comes great responsibility.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
If you the CEO of a company and something happened
at one of your locations, that's like several states away.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Right if if, if if a.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Customer get did wrong in one of your locations, They're
not gonna be like the manager at the Nebraska branch
is a bitch ass nigga. They're naming the whole company.
They're gonna name the whole company. If Apple, if the
Apple store and Nevada did me wrong, it's Apple, you
know what I mean. So if I'm Tim Cook the
CEO of Apple, I don't even know if he's still

(31:47):
the CEO. But if I'm the CEO of Apple, I'm
looking at you like, nigga, this is your fault because
these niggas is operating underneath what you say, can and
can I happen?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I get it?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
And that's what the same thing I say about man.
It's like I think that before we ask women to
make changes, we need to be the change.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
No. One thousand definitely got to be the change.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think the first thing niggas gotta do is if
you meet a woman in your life, is she not
on your program or she not even trying to get
with your program, let her go. But niggas don't do
that because they be they want sex so much, should
be so good it go. I don't even think it's
that good. I think niggas just afraid to be alone.
I think a lot of people were afraid to be alone.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Nowadays, it's not it's not hard. You go hang swing
that thing. Every direction is somebody that wanted.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
But it's just.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
If I can't do nothing for you, I might as
well let you go. If I can't benefit you, if
I can't help you grow, I'm gonna let you go.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Because if I feel you can't help me grow or
bid it, I'm letting you go.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm letting you go. It ain't made for us to
be sit up here trying to put a piece to
a puzzle that don't fix.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, like you jamming a piece to make the puzzle
could be complete, but this piece do not fit.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
So what is we doing? Let it go?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, And that's what I'm about right now, lanning anything
that's not in my life that fits in my life.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I'm landing it go, friends, family, compinions. I'm letting it
all go. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I'm not school. I'm not scared to start all over.
I'm not scared to lose people in my life. I mean,
you was never here, you never meant to be here.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, that's one thing I say too, I'm not afraid
to start over. One thing about life is once you do,
like me moving to New York City, that's starting over, right,
that's a pretty big thing. It was, you know it was.
It was scary, but I wasn't me personally. I wasn't
nearly as scared as I was excited. But it's scary though, right.
And I'm saying that to say, when you make that

(33:49):
move toward the thing that's terrifying to you, and you
survive it, and you realize a lot of time the
thing we're scared of is never really what we think
it is, you know what I mean, And you don't
really get a chance to know that. So you really
rob yourself of understanding how not so threatening it isn't
until you go through it. But then you go through it,
you realize like, oh okay, and then you know I

(34:09):
could do this again.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I could do this again. And that was the problem.
I was scared to be committed to one woman. You
were scared. I was scared.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
You were scared to be committed to one woman woman?
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Because I was scared I was losing.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Myself losing yourself. How I just got shot. She stepped up,
be settling down. I'm not used to just having one woman.
It's like I start getting nervous. I'm not seeing on
no more. I lost my vision. Now I'm losing myself.
Who am I like? I felt like the image of

(34:42):
me driving around the clothes, the car, the jury, the female,
That's what made me so when be committed, like I'm
laying next to her every night by myself, I'm in
every night. This is my woman every night like pictures
on Instagram. I wasn't doing that before. I was getting nervous.
I was getting scared. I'm gonna lose my I'm gonna

(35:04):
lose the females.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Was you feeling like you wasn't done living your life still?
That's exactly what it was. It was like, fuck, like
I actually still want to experience certain things, and I
feel like this is kind of sitting out, this signal
that like I'm not available yet.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Exactly what it was, right.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
But then when she left and I jumped back in
the streets like I'm back, y'all, I'm here, Hey, nigga,
ain't left when you got shot, nigga, So you jumped
in the streets to nobody, cause they they're already playing
they walking papers. When you got when I got hit?
So now I got shot. Now turn around and I
see she's walking up the block. I'm trying to run
and grab her to tell her to come back. She

(35:40):
keep walking like, niggad, this is what you chold, this
is what you wanted.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I'm giving you what you wanted. Hey, let me tell
you one.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Time she told me she's one time she sent me
and herbies in the house and be just going back
and forth, and it was just like she said, Yo,
nobody don't want you.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
What the fuck you mean nobody don't want me.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I'm seeing no nobody gonna want you. Being blind trusting,
I said what she said, look like this, if you
could go out there and you can find somebody, I.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sit back and let you do your and still be
with you.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
And I'm seeing though everybody loved me, anybody want me
start heading people up and they was just quiet, white noise.
I'm like, damn, what that niggas change they number on me.
They just not answering.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
M just saying delivered.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
They not responded back, you know, shure. I'm just like,
what the fuck then it's like when the people that
do respond back is oh shit, you could see again?
What you mean, can I see it again? Because you're
texting me wow.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
One girl like oh I miss you just then and
there Y'll come pick me up. I'm like, pick you up?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, I said you forgot I can't see Oh you
still can't see? No, I had a backup, Like so
what you're doing, like, yo, let's never respond back quiet knowledge,
Like damn, I lost my world for this ship.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
You're trying to trying to chase se no.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Because you was out there in the streets and you
have that different options, Yeah, different women, different body types.
You know, it's stroking your ego, you know what I mean.
It's making you feel like you that nigga when you
got you a couple of women in your rotation.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I'm knock your things left or right.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
So you're thinking you're gonna get back out and you
think you're gonna like do the same thing. I think
you're gonna get a little bit off the top again.
It's like, you know, I just want to have a
little bit more pause. You ain't trying to get rid
of your eighty Yeah, you wasn't trying to get rid
of your eighty.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh no, but you were just like, let me kicking
it too.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, let me let me see what's going on with
the twenty real quick, and then I have my way
with that, and then I'll come back.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Dip my feet into twenty and come back to you.
But then when the twenty wasn't twenty, and it's like
we all up. I really lost, like I lost my
I lost my everything. For this ship an actually walking,
It's like I don't like it. Now I'm trying to
catch you. But niggas don't never realize when when that
when a eighty walks, But to believe is a man

(38:03):
on every corner that realize what she's worth.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And niggas hate that. What people don't.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Realize when you second facing your eighty for that twenty,
when that it walking down the block, it's a man
on every corner. Yeah, so you pretty much given your
eighty percent opportunity to see somebody that's to meet a
person that's probably better than you or even half better
than you, that's gonna make her happy.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Is that worth it?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's unfortunately a lot of niggas gott to learn that
shit the hard way.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I learned the hard way.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, because you know it's funny because you know, women
are so enchanting and they're so nice to be around, right,
they got this good energy. So like women, they smell
good and they soft, they put their hands on you,
you just feel it strokes your ego, right, But sometimes
it's a man. You gotta take a step back and
really have a solid conversation with yourself. It's like, hold
on my nigga. Look, I know she looked good and

(38:59):
she had nice little body, and she had a nice voice,
and she.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Makes you feel good.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
But make sure that this is worth what you might
lose in exchange.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Like, what's the risk? Does she make you better? What's
the risk?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Because if the risk is that all is cute, because
because that's what happened to you, essentially, you saying, like
these girls they cute, they sexy, make you.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Feel good and they nasty.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
You're having a good lad but then you went back
outside and they was like a nigga while you was down,
we were trying to get up with somebody else big time,
you know what I mean big.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Time, And I'm in the hospital, fight for my life.
They don't moved on, and this is what I wanted
to jump in.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
They didn't even come and visit you.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Now they came, okay, because you know everybody be trying
to My theory is everybody want to make the bituary.
So when you down like that, you wanna have like
a thousand girlfriends. Everybody didn't want to be in abituary.
But then it's like, he survived.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I thought you said everybody want to make the bitch worried.
You said obituary.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, barbituary.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'm like, where's he going with this?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Then it's like, okay, he woke up. Oh, he's up,
he's talking, so he good. Now he good. I woke up.
I'm like, I got how many girlfriends?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Since when?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah? All right?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Cool, I'm on everybody Instagram, MoMA, everybody's Facebook. Okay, boom,
he's blonde. The visitors from visits start getting then, and
then I'm like, okay, go home.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I ain't had my phone for a little minute. I
got my phone back from.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
The police, like bad, let me see, let me call,
let me text, like damn, it's quiet now they don't
love you no more. Now it's like yo, see no
and damn, but where's the love from Sino wasn't they
no more?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
But guess who was there? Eighty percent, my one hundred
percent was there is there?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
But I still was still itching. Inches want to see
you with that twenty percent outside the streets. Whole time,
the twenty percent wasn't twenty percent. It wasn't crapped out
to what it is?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Get me wrong?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Since she left, I know, I deal my little dub dizzl,
dealt with the people and all that, but it's not
the same, still not the same, because you're like, God,
ask yourself, do this person really care?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Do this person make you better? What is it?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Why is this person? What's this person motive around you?
Oh you're getting a little bit of money, so they
want that. Oh you're in the club, you're a big promoter, okay,
so they want that. When this one don't care about
my money, She don't care about my status in the streets,
she don't care about none of that shit. She just
wanted me to be good, be alive and safe. I

(41:42):
could crash out on Instagram, I crash out on Facebook,
put a posset up.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
She'd text me, it ain't worth it. Take it down.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Don't let them, don't let them see you sweat. Don't
let them get you nervous. Man, feel like you're even nervous.
Take it down and I'm like, yo, nah, I had
to say something. Now you didn't killing with Connors? Keep
being great.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I go delete it.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I just took like thirty minutes to make this post.
Now I'm deleting this shit. That's somebody that's good and
great for you. I would never sacrifice my eighty for
my twenty no more.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, let me ask you this because this would be
a good segue into my questions. But do you think
can you tell well, can you tell what? Can you
tell what borough a girl is from just by talking
to her?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
No? I ain't even gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
No, okay, No, do you think girls from different boroughs
got different styles and different like do you think what's
the difference between a girl from Brooklyn and a girl
from Harlem?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I really can't tell, cause it's like I feel like,
I feel like you can't tell. It's all about what
type of girls you're into, really, because you got it's
Brooklyn girls that's flashy talk, that money talk and all
that and not it.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
But they got Brooklyn girls that just.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Calm in the same sweet Okay, so like you can't
tell from I think from the barrows, you can't tell them. Okay,
pretty true to it. It's all about the personalities of
the type of girls you into. Okay, okay, let me
ask you this, What does it mean to be from Brooklyn?
What do it mean to be from Brooklyn?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah? Like, what does that mean to you to be
from Brooklyn?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Not? It means a lot to me.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'm born and raised, Like he's a lot, Like, yeah,
what do it means?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Like what makes you proud to be from Brooklyn?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I don't know, Nigga said, I don't know the Homer
B and J Like, I feel like Brooklyn made me
who I am. It made me tough, concrete jungles like
it's I really can't tell, really can't say.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
You should really think about that, though.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Like what makes me proud of being from Brooklyn? I
really not? Not for not It's like, I'm not the
way things is going now, It's like, do I really
want to be proud of being from Brooklyn?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Oh? Shit?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
People with dying left right people is getting killed left
to right for no reason sinceless shit, Like just like
a couple of weeks just being in the club and
somebody's Oh, I don't like him, like you don't even
know him. Oh, but he's from this hood? What so

(44:47):
you you want you want a press him because he
from a hood. It's a grown ass man like you
a little boy, but you because he from a hood.
I'm like, I say, you, bro, you got a lot
of growing up the door. You're like, Hi, I say,
are you about to die over a hood?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
That you don't even know?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
What?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Jay Z said, Please don't die over the neighborhood that
your mama want in.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
YO, good advice.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Rell.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Shit, I'm like, ye're you gonna die over y'all? And
then the crazy about that.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Another nigga said, let me say, if your mother caught
up on her rent for you to be dying over
this hood?

Speaker 1 (45:20):
He was quiet.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Now you're like, you're trying to Oh, you're trying to
play me this time. I said, no, I'm not trying
to play. I'm trying to save your life.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Bro. That's what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Trying to say your life, I say, because I I'm
in the clubs with I'm in the club with this
nigga every week. We built a family. This is our
family right here. You think we all gonna sit here
and just let you think you're gonna do what you're
gonna do.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Nah, you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Force my hand to do something that I don't want
to do, and I'm gonna have to beat you and
put you down. Then he said there my aunt like, Yo,
it ain't worth it. I'm saying, hell, it's not worth it.
Go about your hey, Bro, you twenty four, you're dealing
with grown ass men, because clearly you didn't grow up
dealing with grown ass man.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Stand down. Oh nah, just that I'm I said, Bro,
but the hood that you I said.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You're don't own property in this hood. Bro, You're gonna die.
I said, You're gonna dieal with this hood? Alright, Cool,
he's still out of there, alright, ignore him. He's a
little kid. But then he starts singing the same person
you want to press the grown people coming now and
pressing him like somebody told him, like you want to die?
You want that You love his hood so much that

(46:27):
you're ready to die for it, he said. I he said,
I kill you and leave it in front of your
mother door step, and he got quiet. I'm like, is
it worth it? He like, nah, it ain't worth it.
I said, don't get stone be drinking his liquor and
thinking you're gonna be Superman for your hood.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Bro, I'm not dying from my hood.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Bro, You're not dying for your hood.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I dying from my hood, bro, because why I die
on this corner. He's gonna pick my body up, wash
my blood away, and I'm gonna be forgotten. So why
the hell I'm dying over this hood? But they're gonna put.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
You up on your birthday or rest in peace to
my nigga. This that, and I'm not dying for that.
I'm not dying for no Facebook posts, bro.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Like Clary, I'm not dying for a Facebook post. I'm
not dying for candles on the corner. I'm not dying
for a picture with my shirt on it.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Nah, I'm not. I'm not just doing that shirt with
my picture on it. I'm not.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
No, I ride my nigga by my merch and I'm
a live and I'm breathing like I talk.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Enjoy the money, come on, invest the money. Support people
you want to support with the money, That's what I'm saying.
So damn. So you're saying you don't know if it's
a great thing to take pride in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
I don't know if it's a great pride, not just Brooklyn,
just New York itself, New York itself, New York. So
Nigga's getting killed for water fights and I'm saying, I'm
just saying, I'm bro I'm New York. I'm from from now.
You go out of time like we're from from New York,
Brooklyn like you, that's you, honor, love you. They asked
you a thousand questions like they love New York. Nah,

(48:02):
I'm not proud to say that. Why we're killing each
other nigga down over water fights?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Seventeen years old, still didn't don't know what life is.
He gone, dad, and I'm proud of that.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Let me ask you this, do you think everything that
comes with living in New York is worth the cost
of the rent?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Mm?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Hmm?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
What's in New York that Victor High?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I mean, they got beaches, they got parks, they got
the block parties, we had all the rent wasn't this high.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
They had all this The rent wasn't in now. You
want to know what, Maige, rent high? It ain't that
I know. I can't see what the dim sure ain't
our color?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
They migrate nas ginger vide. Now we're going, y'all gonna
pay the GENDERFI money. Like it's rare when I seen
when you see a cold cage, you know, white person
walk through the projects, I'm like, you know, I never
seen it. I'm in Brownsville. I just see white people

(49:12):
walking through the projects. I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Come on, this is why the rint going up because
of that. It ain't no beaches, it ain't no black parties.
Ain't we had all that already.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
We had all that already. So miss me with that ship?
What else? Nah? Wow?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Because you be outside, you see the white people running
up the blocks. You see people like I'm.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
On look at it now.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
You can't even cookout no more on the sidewalk, can't
sit on the sidewalk no more with your tables and
ship like that.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Who being affected by it?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah? Who being affected by it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I'm on Instagram. You're seeing people fighting for they.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Hamburgers and frank buns because the police one's confiscated because
you having a one of your business having a cookout,
And where is that in? Bad style? Is in Crown Heights.
You see it, they getting taged, you seeing them getting
detained and everything else. Right, show me a show me
a video from like Williams Bird or like bay Ridge

(50:18):
with the other color living that And then I said
that might be being treated equally. Nah, we being effected
by it. Summertime what black people? Black person don't love
a cookout?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
You play that?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
You play your the cookout music before I let go
and all that, and people dancing and they're drinking and
they're having a good time. Nah, you just you snatching
out away from them.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Now you got block parties with no girls outside? What
black party? What kind of black party is that? Nah?
We being effected by it.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
So while what they're doing, they raising the rent on us.
Why to push us out and to move them? Man
should have like two or three thousand. That's that's a
lot damn rent. Two or three thousand for a black person.
Now this ship is too much. But you I think
in Manhattan, no white people's only they really they spinning

(51:16):
three or four thousand on the studio live in Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
So now I'm coming to New York.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I'm coming to Brooklyn, getting more for cheap, for less
and they and they are that ship cheap twenty twenty five,
that was a studio. Now they getting one.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Bedroom bedroom, maybe a little balcony or something, you know,
just to spice it up.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
They feel good now they got Now look now you
got a prospect park right there. Let you go walk
around and you know they a lot of that ship.
You garride your bike. You could run through the hood.
Why could you got?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Now we got more.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Police circle in these neighborhoods to make sure they're safe,
make sure they good.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's why I really going on.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
They buil didn't build is everywhere, building buildings everywhere. You
look like, damn they putting this We got ice cream.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Shops, se an ice cream shop.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Back in the days, closest ice cream shot you was
going to badging the rup thirty one flavors. Now they
got ice cream shops, they got different ship, coffee shops.
They got this ship straight gentified. And you're just like,
damn why because they're making the other God comfortable.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And what they doing. They come in, they're buying these
brown stones up. Hey, here's a million dollars. They bound
it up. Moving out the way.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Definitely gonna be hard while because we don't own our
neighborhoods no more.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
What do you think it takes to make New York
City less dangerous?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
What do it takes? Uh? It's it's hard.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
It's hard to really answer that because a lot of
people got that crab in a bare mentality.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
It's like my me working ten times harder, I'm making
the person next to me for like, oh, I think
he thinks he's better than me.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I'm gonna take it all away from him. My nigga,
you can.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Work ten times harder with me here and be both
for be great or I'm out here, I'm I'm hustling.
I'm doing what I gotta do. But you mad because
I'm out here grinding and working for better things to
chase my goals.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
So you're gonna you wanna shoot it down.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
It's always it's like, ah, I really can't answer that
question because it's a lot of fun up minds out here.
The mind's gotta be figured. A lot of people need
mental health. I'm in like resource mental health resources.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
They got this thing in.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Ain't mind that I can't do it, So I'm gonna
take it away from somebody like you really look at
it a person got killed for a water fight. Ain't
that much? Don't don't you wash your ass at night?
So ain't that much in the word to kill somebody
over a damn water fight. It's gonna take a lot

(54:05):
to make New York City safe. But and that's not
just not even just New York, it's every state. Everywhere
you go is like that.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Atlanta. I went out to Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
This sh is so beautiful, felt so good that when
the sun the fool but they like, yo, it gets
crazy out here, or you're just seeing a good part
of Atlanta. You ain't see like bodies is being dropped
out here. My sister went to Houston. Houston beautiful stuff,
but you had to watch out. It's a whole lot
of people that try to get you out there. And
what you talking about is a girl cane. She crying like, oh,

(54:40):
can you help me out? Can I use your phone?
Oh yeah, I'm like strifing that. She's like no, said
then she just walked away regular and then went to
the next person and started up again.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I'm like, they do that here.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
I'm like, damn, that's shit different. So it ain't just
New York because everywhere everyone where we go, it is dangerous.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
What could make the world better? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
I really can ask that question because it's like you
gotta find out the root of the problem.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Can't work on the tree. You gotta find out what
the root the root?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Nah, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
But then like some of the ship coming from the households,
what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Not enough love? A lot of these kids not getting
enough love in their households, so they bringing a devil
the demon ways out into the streets.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's how I feel. My mother can't afford these Jordans.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
So I'm gonna take somebody olse shit like I me personally,
if I can change a lot of shit, I make it.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I fear that everybody could afford everything.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I think, yeah, if if we manage so so you
say you couldn't really answer it, but I think that's
a good way to approach answering it right there.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Like anybody like fast, like Joy's right, it's come out.
Why would you only put a certain amount of peers
in the stores and all that you're going to sell out?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Oh that's just business though, So it is business right,
but so gentrification right, Yeah, Like it's business right, But
then you put like you putting fifty Piers sneakers in
the store, don't that you have one hundred niggas online
knowing that the fifty niggas's getting these sneakers won't have
a hard time coming out this store.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
That's that's a crime waiting to happen. Mm A crome
waiting to happen.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I'm quite sure these factories gonna make enough Jodans for
everybody to have them. Let's crimes can now. I'm not
getting killed over pis niggas that you can't.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Get, but my okay, so and I agree with you
one million percent. But to that, I would say, is
that the Jordan brand's problem because when they release a
limited amount, they increase the they increase the perception of
the brand. The brand looks more desirable now because now

(57:06):
it's it's scarce, you know. I mean we got a
limited amount, you know, like you think about like diamonds, gold,
Ferrari's fur coats, all these different things. Like the reason
why they're so valuable is because everybody can't have them.
So when you see a nigga with them, it's like, ah,
fucking I miss that. When it's like you can't be
in the club with that nigga and right there, it
creates like a desire to want to be in the club.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
You know what I mean when you said Ferrari's and
all that, we're not dying over because we can't afford it.
That's out of our class. You don't see rich people dying. Yeah,
they're not killing each other over for coats and the diamonds.
Rich people are killing each other over that.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Nah, it's we in the hood with it. Joe's on
our fees like a Ferrari.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
So why not make it to.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Putting it out like all right, cool, let me put
these out instead of fifty, I'm gonna put a hundred.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
What are you losing?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Because in their mind, they cheaping the brand by making
it super like sketchers got a limited amount of You
can buy as many copies of a sketcher as you want.
You know what I mean, you want you can buy
as many of these ideas as you want, you know
what I mean, Because it's not exclus it's exclusivity, right,
and that's what they selling people, excelling exclusivity, Like when
you at the airport, they got the sapphire Delta Lounge,

(58:22):
Chase Lounge, and it's like I get all that, that's
the special club, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
But nobody dying over sketches because it's not as to
that point because.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Who were in the sketches? No, not us. They've got
a couple of black people, but really the white white
people over them sketches we.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Don't mean as much because Jordan's is attached to an
icon for us, and beyond the icon, it's transcended the
nigga that.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Is, you can say it, but then they're like shot
guys sneakers in Walmart.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah yeah, and you're true and he a icon too,
But again it's like it doesn't get the same.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
It's business, you know, not his business. But joint can
change the world. Let me put enough for every kid
to have on their feet. Yeah, you could change the
word like your name is powerful. You're not gonna lose
to nothing.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Why you could drop one hundred pairs today, one hundred
people gonn get it. The next week or next two weeks,
you could drop another Now they gonna get that money
up to go get that shit too, Cause you know what, even.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
If you want to keep the price high, you could right,
you can still keep the price high, but it's when
you remove the niggas don't even get a chance to
get the shoe, don't because it's like, well, I don't
have the money today.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Man, that line be wrapped around a corner, knowing it's
only fifty pairs.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
So it really does drive.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Like I don't want to say the shoe is responsible
for people having criminal activity, right, but I will say
that it doesn't help, especially when you know, part of
the prestige of the shoe is Jordan and the legacy
of Jordan, but also part of the prestige of the
shoe is people willing to step on each each other
to get it to get it. But if that shoe

(59:54):
was going to remain on that shelf for another year
or another six months, you know what I mean, then
that person can get their money together. It don't got
to feel as rushed. But it's like, fuck, I want
that shoe because we love shoes, shoes of art, all
close the art, you know what I mean. So you
see the pair of shoes and it's like, damn, I can't.
I don't got the money, I can't get it in time.
So you know what I'm about to take them out with. Yeah,

(01:00:15):
them look like they my size, nigga, let me get those.
So you walk out the store, nigga, I'm across the street,
come low, waiting for you to be in the block
where you live.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
One time I met one time before I even got
shot phone posits was a big day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It was huge.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Love what I go to the store. Damn, They're like, yo,
no more eight and a halfs. I'm like, fuck nothing
of the taalitor reds.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I wanted them bad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I see my see my little brother online, my star brother.
He going in. He got his size first alone. I'm like,
all right, my damn bro, I'm about to leave him,
try to say if I go to another store. But
then I see the crudy niggas outso waiting, Miami niggas
waiting sat there. I'm like, it's me my homies. I'm like,

(01:01:05):
all right, I'm about to jump in the car. Depth
I'm like, son just told me just just stay back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Boom.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I'm my god, I sit in the car. I'm just
sitting there because I'm about to not be about to
pull up to go downtown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
You're a no string.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
He come out the store before you come out to start.
I say, yo, do not come to the car, just
walk like all right, cool, come out. Guy's sneakers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
He walking as he walking, Him and his friend walking
off the block with their sneakers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
They walking behind them. Now I get out the car
and I'm walking. Now we're walking behind them. He turned
the corner. They turned the corner with them. Before they
made they move, I grabbed. I said, I will kill you, bro.
Oh no, no, no, we were just keeping on his toes.
Now I'm keeping you on your toes. What you're trying
to do. What you're trying to do? My brother looking

(01:01:55):
like I said, bro, this is why I tell you
pay attention. Because they can't avoid it or they don't
got it. They don't got their side. Just same way
I asked her. They got the size for me? They
say they don't. I'm ready to dep off. Now they
gonna take yours. He s something to look like, so
what you want to do? So now they see like
it's two it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Three of y'all. It's four of us. Though, get y all,
little kids.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
We grown.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
That's man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Nah, they thought twice go about your way. You would
get killed for some sneakers. Man, you walked about their way.
I'm like, my brother, come on, get in my car,
let me drop you off. Bro, I don't need them
sneakers that bad that I'm just to let you go
about your way, not get in a car, bro, drop
them off. I just had to pay extion for my
s niggas, but still I got them, dropped them off,
and I went about my way. But it's like, if

(01:02:40):
you made it enough for everybody, or made it affordable
for everybody, swear probably be a better place.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Let me ask you that, because obviously we're talking about
a lot of criminal element shit that just come with
being in low income situations, right, and toad that I
don't want to ask you. My next question, which is
because I think it flows partly into this, is can
gentrification be a good thing for New York City? Or

(01:03:09):
let me ask it another way, Are there any benefits
to gentrification in New York City?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I want to say, I want to say no, but
it's like, you see more police presence, but is that
safe for us? I really said no, because the more gingercation,
the more rent going up. Why this shit going up?

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Well? What about so we know that gentrification pushes people out, right,
but what if it pushes out some of those people
that are contributing to chaos in the neighborhood and on
the blocks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
But you could push them out, but it's like a right,
you're pushing These people are hurt, but you think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It's not that it's the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Like the people that's doing and harm in there, but
it's the their parents, They grandparents, ain' shit, They ain't
doing shit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
It's the kid.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
And then it's like, Okay, you can push them out,
doesn't mean they're gonna come back in and they're gonna
come back and rob So it's like what difference would
it make were pushing people out that's been in these
apartments older than for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Longer than like we've been going on this earth. So
it's like you you tear you pushing them out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
It hurts the community. And then on top of it
hurts the community too because like my block right matter
of fact, the you live on Hawsey, everybody and their
mother over there we know each other. They watched me,
they raised me, they crossed me across the street when
it's time to go to the store and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
You push people that bring new more people in that
caused more. I feel like that caused crime right there, because.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Now, why John john on that corner, that's a creddy
buddy that's ready to rob and stealing kill, would never
rob on his block because you know miss Ms Blush
right there, Ms Rose right there, Miss Johnson right there,
Mister mister Severling right there. He know them because why
they raised him. So he gonna think twice before you

(01:05:15):
try to rob anybody on his block. Now that everybody's
being pushed out, you bringing new faces and new people
over here that can I could rob them. They don't
know me. I could rob them and get low. I
feel like it was less more. I feel like it
was less crumbs before it was really gentified. I honestly
feel and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
I don't know. Guns just came out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
It never been as much guns, indeed, neighbors the way
it is now. Back in the days, you could get
your ass whipped and take it like take it like
a hell.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Now you get your asswept, you getting shot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
You beat somebody ass, You might as well go in
the crib if you don't want to die to it.
But they coming back, and they coming back to kill you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
They gonna pop the trump.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
They coming back to kill you, so you better whip
the ass and going downs for a couple of days,
try to let them cool off for a minute. But
then they're like, oh, gendifies more police and all that.
But is that a good thing for us?

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
I don't know, because more than just the people who
contribute into the crime and getting into the gangster shit.
It's like now young boys who just trying to get
home now they coming home from school? Are they just
playing outside? Now they getting caught up in the riff
rack because the cop like, shit, nigga, you part of
the problem too old time. It's like, nigga, I ain't
never I ain't never held a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
I've never even been around them. But your skin color
you part of them? You black, you part of them.
For James on this call player, let me surt you.
You just got textbooks in your pocket, I mean in
your book bag?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Where the guns at? What?

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Are you not even that type of kid? But guess what,
they put you in the same bracket as though in
your in they eyes y'all were.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
All the same.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Yeah, don't care like I'm I'm disabled and they still
trying to run down on me normal times.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Who's trying to run down yeah, what it's time to police.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Dragged me out the car, had me in handcuffs because
I want to let them search me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I'm like, I'm visuitally in pid. You putting a cab
over that don't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Still have me in handcuffs, take me to the prison. Oh,
I'm gonna have y'all badge. Oh it's a little suit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
They let me go. Said, oh, you should have.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
You should have stopped being smart and just told me
you was blind in the first place. No, what is
you trying to search me in the first place? For
I didn't do nothing wrong? Oh I met I matched
this description. I masked the description of a person that
had committed a murder. I said, how would you know
if I was in the car driving past?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Y'all? Yeah? Now they driving down, I'm driving up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
They busted u turn. Person said we smelled marijuana. I said,
how the windows is up and nobody had smoker. This
is aber.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Now they ain't talking to the cab driver. They talking
to me over in the uber. It's crazy, bro, well nuts.
And they wasn't talking to the uber driver. They were
talking straight to me, me and my little brother. I said,
he's on the age. You're not searching them? Oh, you
know you're right, I definitely do. You're not searching me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Oh, I'm like, well, what's the reason. I said, First
of all, you pulled the cab over here. You're not
talking to me. You're talking to him?

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Or are you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
What's you drinking? It doesn't matter. I'm not behind the whale.
What's snacks?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Say?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
You massive description of a shoot that we had two
weeks ago? So why I said, can you run it
back on the walk with talking let me hear it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Nah, they don't want to do it. Like what's your name? Sean?
Last name? Bal Oh? That pisted them off? That pissed
them off? He said, excuse me, what's your name? First name, Sean,
last name? Bab Oh? What pisted them off?

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
They opened the door, slam me on the bag, handcuffed
this day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I'm ready for that ship. I'm ready to get paid.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I'm suing you. I want your pension. I'm sowing the
city because you They got a decade.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Working for them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
If you don't get slave first, I want it all.
You can get paid if you don't get slain.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I won it all, but my money. Like da,
they're gonna take me somewhere with my ass and leave.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Me and I ain't gonna know. Well, man, that's what
I kept stinking in my head with my hands, and
leave me somewhere. I don't know where. Man, I'm blind.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Nigga leave you in something some hood where niggas is
with that with that static.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah, look be good though.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Let me ask you this, This has been a great episode, bro.
This is my last question on as far as like
on the notes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Hum hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
How do you know if you're living in New York
or surviving in it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You know? Yeah, I say if I'm living surviving, I'm
living in New York right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I'm surviving.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I'm surviving in New York. I'm trying to make it
out of New York. As much as I love New York,
I'm trying to make it out of New York.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Like we are, we actually survive, We're not living. We're
definitely not living because it's like every day we wake up,
we gotta go to work, we gotta work hard, we
gotta keep we gotta keep our jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
One little fight can set us back. Got living, You're.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Bro, you don't listen one little setback. Fuck all this
ship up, change playings quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
How many times you went to the supermarket you see
the price of shit? You like, Yeah, How many sacrifices
you like, I got I can't get this because I
gotta get this. How many time you open the bill
I'm like, God, damn, I lfe build this. But it's like,
do I keep cool to be comfortable to get up
to go to work? They're giving them my best or

(01:10:59):
I'm I'm sleeping his heat and be miserable and I
don't know how to out come going to be So let.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Me tell you something. I have slept the many nights
in some New York City heat in the summer. Not
for the week, my niggas. Not for the week, my nigga.
Most of the fucking apartments here don't even got central ac.
I don't you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
So so you got that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
You? So are?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
You? Are we living? We're not living? Were surviving?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
H We're not living living be I gotta pay myself.
I gotta pay somebody my rent. That's why I'm living.
That's surviving when I own that motherfucker there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I'm living now when I'm not worried about like I set.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Back money and stuff like that, when you would get.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Up and just go as you want your living. Nah,
we just surviving every day. Every day is a plan
every day you would but just every week you know
your check coming. You're playing it out this, that and
the third, just so you could have need to play
with on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
You surviving because if I'm living, I ain't worry about
that shit. I know my money is straight. I could
take off a couple of days knowing that my money
gonna be straight. Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
When you I can't afford it, I'll be sleep, I
be tired, don't want to go do a party at all.
But I'm like, if I don't do this, part of
what can happen or this shit can set me back?

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
So it set me back. I can't. I ain't gonna
have studio time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
And then you gotta you got a son, bro, Yeah,
now how can I time? I can't buy his food?
How can I tell him, Oh, you see a pair
of sneakers?

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
I can't get it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
How can I tell you? Oh, now you can't play
the game. Because I'm scared to like their go go up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
And sit like that. Hmm. Nah, I gotta work and
not just him. It's like I got other people that's
rooting and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Rioting for me, Like, yeah, god forbid, you want something
for yourself too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sneakers, come out. Let me
treat my I can't treat myself. While can you treat yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
How you fucked up for a couple more a couple
of days or a couple of weeks, and then you
never even know what could happen with the Then your
son might need sons, the daughter might need somen You
got a phone bill, you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Got a yavel bill, You need internet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
You need wild fie nowadays, boy should have run so
like now picture all that's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Boy, So are we living? I'll be surviving.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Yeah, until you got your feet up and you comfortable
you're surviving? Mm hmmm, because every day we wake up,
they get like, damn, I'm doing everything right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
There's secure of my bag, secure of my job, secure
of my living.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
And do you think do you think because some people
been living in New York for a long time, you know,
some people this is all they know, it's all. But
do you think surviving in New York is overrated? Or
should they go survive somewhere else where they get a
little bit more, you know, bang for their.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
But they bang for the buck. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
I don't think surviving in New York is over because
everywhere you go is really shi It is hot. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
My left used to be cheap. Anybody starting migrating to Atlanta. Look, Atlanta,
it's expensive now. People like Atlanta ain't cheap like how
it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I've seen. I remember when everybody was running to the
North and South Carolina. Nah, that's just expensive now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
The price of living went up soon or later, we're
gonna be paying for yeah, to breathe later.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
We got to pay to breathe.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Sooner or later. Come on, then you got the president.
We got in there cutting by cutting Medicaid and all
different types of ship. People really about to be trying
to survive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
And listen, and it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Gonna keep going and keep going and keep going. Some
people fucked up. You fuck with their Medicaid, you're fucking
with their social Security, you're fucking with different ships. Be
struggling now, you wanted to struggle even more. Nah, but
know what onf fact, the people that on Amazon and
Walmart to the world and the targets not effected by it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I think living we surviving, big difference.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Yeah, Like I swiped my car and checked my bank
account to see exactly how much.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
The buddy I got.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah, I need to know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
I want to get to a point where I could
swap my car and I don't give I'm like, it's
a couple of millions in that motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, I'm good, listen, not even in a couple of millions,
just enough, you know what I mean. It's like I'm
swiping the motherfucking I don't gotta be worried, like maybe
it's not enough. Do I got enough left for this?
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
I don't want to overdraft.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I don't want to fucking overdraft fucking your banks, bro,
Fuck y'all. Bro. Overdraft is the sickest shit in the world.
Like nigga, I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
It's a gimmick.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Then they gonna hit you, they're gonna tax you. That's
how I lost my first bank account. I lost my
first bank account because they were overdrafting me for something
that I didn't have in there. And then you end
up I didn't have a job at the time, and
then it's like the overdraft and then they hit you
with a lafey for the overdrafting. Before you know it,
you got one hundred and eighty fucking dollars in overdrafting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Like the overdraft your shit for fifty dollars and they
hit that thirty five dollars feet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
On the back of that bitch. Broh cold hustle. That
a little bit of money that hitch your account.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I'll talk about, bitch, I don't got no money in it,
you fucking bitch, like it's not in there?

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
It yo? What that is? All? They give you? This
credit call limits high as hell.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
NOBO ain't never touched us financial literacy, So what to
do with a credit card?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
All day?

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
They just throw it in our hands. Against what we
would do. We just swipe swhitepe. Now that shit fuck
up your credit score? That what do you get with that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
As American scam?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, it is because our resident send me a couple
of messages in the mail. Brother, When I tell you,
I owe them niggas some paper and then let me
tell you something, keep it a big stack with you.
Let's talk. Let's really talk real quick. Send me one
check all them niggas twelve racks. Okay, you know what
I'm saying, Send me another check, or them niggas for

(01:16:55):
four thousand, right, they send me another check, Send me
a check for all the money I owe them from
the interest collected from not paying all that money. I said,
Oh my god, Oh so I'm supposed to do that?
Pay my rent, pay my bills, get my groceries. How

(01:17:16):
the fucking niggas for? What the fuck is your niggas
talking about? What you're talking about. I don't supposed to
climb from out of a whole. I'm supposed to be
wanting to buy a home one day.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
They don't care. They don't care, They don't care at all.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
So should we leave America?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
You're trying to go to Africa? Bro? I ain't gonna lie.
I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
You thought about it, like nah, it's and belly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Yeah? What about going to Ghana?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
What you're gonna do in Ghana?

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Bro? Grow some some farms and stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah, live a different life of peaceful life, unity, unity.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Things I go to Africa with you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
If they got a Papa's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
He loved papas. You make its own papas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
That's to go right, you know what I mean to
bring papas tad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Listen, leave all this American shit in America. Please please
well listen. Follow my people out there. I hope you
find ways to live in the city. Obviously, surviving is
you know, it's hard, and like my nigga said, you
know what I mean, a lot of us are surviving.
But I think life is all about reclaiming back your
time for the little ways that you can live. So
whatever y'all doing out there, man, just find ways to

(01:18:30):
reclaim some of your living time. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
You got to be intentional about living.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
You got a hustle, you live on purpose, got a dream,
you gotta live on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Before you even get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
What are you what you're living on surviving in Dallas?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Because I could talk about the New York part.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
What you living on surviving in Dallas that you feel
you had to bust a move to come to New York?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Mm hmm. You know it's interesting because I want to
say both and I want to say both because so
my story living in Dallas, you know, me and my family,
we was real. We was real. We had a lot

(01:19:20):
of down. We had a lot of downs, you know
what I mean. We had a lot of moments where
we just didn't have it, and we was living with
other people. We was living with one family, then another family,
then another family, and you know what I'm saying, majority
of my life, I ain't have a room or bedroom,
you know what I'm saying. So the majority of my
life I was sleeping on the couch, or sleeping on
somebody's floor, or sleeping in somebody's garage, and like kind

(01:19:43):
of making a home in somebody's garage. And so that
majority of my a lot of my life was like that.
But then also like you know, we we we eventually,
me and my family we got stable and then we
had this apartment and we made the most. We made
the most the apartment, right, And so I want to

(01:20:03):
say both in the sense of like once we had
that apartment, you know, we wasn't rich by any means,
but it was like it was the stability though, you
know what I mean. And so like I feel like
in that moment, we wasn't necessarily surviving anymore. That you
ask my mom, she might have a different story because
she was the one paying rent for the place. You
know what I mean. She might have a different story,

(01:20:23):
but I will. But at the same time, outside of
like Okay, I don't got to worry about being homeless
living in dollars, it's a different type of struggle, bro,
It's a different type of challenge because it's not an
accessible place like New York City where you can just yeah,
they got public transportation, but it's not as nearly as

(01:20:45):
reliable and it's not nearly as expensive. You know, mta
take you anywhere on this fucking bitch, you know what
I mean. And that's not happening. That's not happening in Dallas,
you know what I mean. The trains is coming maybe
every thirty forty minutes in heat, that's like unbelievable, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
I mean, And sometimes the bus you know what I means,
like buses is super late, they slow, and so in Dallas,
like you know, I was just my mentality was definitely
survivor mentality in Dallas, because it was all about like
what can I do to get myself one step closer

(01:21:20):
to figuring it out, you know what I mean. And
that's like a lot of the time that's without transportation,
you know what I mean, so you're trying to rely
on transportation and you know, working these minimum waste jobs
and it's like, okay, like I'm about to spend my
whole paycheck on a computer, and then it's like, spend
my whole paycheck on a camera. Then I got to
get the lens and then learning how to like operate cameras,

(01:21:42):
you know what I mean, and all that type of shit.
And so, you know, a lot of it was survivor mentality,
for sure. It definitely, it definitely was. But you know,
that's all I know. You know what I mean that
that's all I know. And in a lot of ways,
this is the most stable I've ever been in my
life right now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Look that's coming from you a young wolf. They're a
young wolf surviving mother. Like you tell you you might
be living in surviving, she probably just surviving. Like I
gotta get this money to pay this rent, to get
this money to put food on the table. I gotta
get this money to make sure we never sleep on

(01:22:18):
nobody couch flow all garage.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
So you look at it like that, it's like, damn,
I gotta be the change.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Yeah, And you know what too, I just want to
add some more on to that too, because you know,
my parents got divorced and neither neither one of them
are rich. But I believe that divorce was the worst
thing that ever happened to my family, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
A lot of families.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, to a lot of families. I think divorce is
the worst thing that ever happened to us because and
I think even till this day, we're still being affected
by divorce, you know how like there could be water
in a creek or a river or a lake, and
you like throw a rock in the water, and then
it creates like a ripple effect from where the rock
into the water. I feel like we're still living in

(01:23:02):
the ripple effect of what divorce did because in a
lot of ways, like even my father, Like you know,
I love my dad, and me and my dad have
a relation. He's in my life, but there's a disconnect
between me and him, you know what I mean. And
I don't know, I don't know if that'll ever really change,
you know what I mean? At this point, I mean,
maybe things go get better, but in some ways, I

(01:23:23):
don't know if it'll get better. Like sometimes I see
my dad with like some of his nephews which is
like my little cousins, and the relationship that my dad
will have with my cousins is like, damn, like that's
what it's supposed to be. All it was supposed to
be us, but we've never had that though. We've never
had that, you know what I mean. And so it's
shit like that. So it's like even everything my fam

(01:23:45):
my family went through, like I think that if they
would have stayed together. It's not to say we would
have been rich, but I think certain things wouldn't have
just been as hard, you know. And so yeah, say
I and my dad was, I mean in me, oh yeah,
we were definitely surviving, bro, We're definitely surviving. I mean,
like I've had Christmases bro, where we ain't have no electricity, bro,

(01:24:07):
you know what I mean. And we literally was opening
Christmas gifts with flashlights like no bullshit, you know what
I mean, Like flashlights Like I would come home from
school and we don't got no lights in the house,
you know what I mean. And while the sunshine and
its cool where I like, if I got to wake
up in the middle of that, I use the bathroom
or light a candle on some real George Washington type shit.
You know what I'm saying. Make sure I'm I'm aiming

(01:24:28):
in the toilet, you know what I'm saying. So niggas
don't boiling hot, boiling water, you know what I mean,
the water off in the house. You know, boiling water
off in the house. So you got to get the
water from outside the house, from the like, because it's
city water. It's different from the water that you pay
in the crib. So you know, you boiling that to
take a bath, bathing in the sink. It's just so niggas.
Niggas didn't. Niggas done, came through some surviving and like

(01:24:51):
you know, we were definitely more in a stable place now,
but it's still more work to do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
And like it's still a lot more work.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
It's a lot more work to do. And one thing
about me, bro is I love being in New York,
and being in New York is a great place. But
one thing I'm gonna say is like I ain't never
lost sight of what I came here for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Never I supposed to, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
And it's a lot of people that I be around,
you know what I mean, And that be maybe calling
my peers whatever you want to say it. I'm like,
we're not We're not doing the same thing here and
we're not here for the same reason.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
And they don't dream, man, they don't dream. People don't
dream no more. People don't got the hustle on no
no more.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Yeah, that's why you gotta put yourself around people that
see that have the same dream you have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
And it's like, I got it. I want more, I
want better. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Look, I'm and I see podcasts. Bring out some ship.
This is this one was a fucking good one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Bring out some ship.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
This is a fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
One, broy And know all this came from just want
to get married? Yeah, where can they find you?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I will, man, don't worry about me, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
This was You took this show today, you took this
show then? Yeah, this was this was good. This was
a good.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Show at the end that you know, sitting in front
of this camera. It ain't always peaches and creams.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
I ain't never been peaches and cream.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
We been through a lot to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Yeah, but you know what, but you find ways to
live though. Because even though I was going through all
that ship, one thing I can thank God for for
my heart.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
It should have been rough, bro, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Like that that's some of that ship is rough, but
there were rougher things that happen, you know what I'm saying.
There were rougher things. But what I can say is
that I thank God for giving me the type of
heart where none of that ship really affected me that much.
And maybe it was just youth, you know what I mean,
But I was just looking at it like, but that's
how all young young black boys feel. You know, when

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you see once you see your mother cry, you'd be like, yeah,
get this fucking money, got to because you don't ever
want to see that again.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
If you don't feel that waitness, something is wrong, something wrong,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
And that's I can understand why niggas get driven to
different extremes to try to make a buck, you know
what I mean, because it's like really understanding, like you
really need that money today, not later, you know what
I mean. And so I understand that. But then that's
part of the back surviving because it's like one of
my favorite Benny the Butcher lines. He was like he

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was like, we wasched niggas eating now were getting even
we watched our mother's cry but that just made us
risk of freedom. And I just like, I fuck with
that line so much. He said, we washed niggas eating
now we getting even. We wastched our mother's cry, but
that just made us risk our freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I feel that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Shit, man, you're doing anything you see your mother don't
got to struggle to put food on the table again.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
You know what I'm saying, So shit, listen whatever you
can do. I don't know, Listen. I lived in some
fucked up situations in New York. I didn't listen to
some fuck up situations when I was in dollars. But
in New York is a tough motherfucking city. So this
is what I'm gonna say. The last thing I'm gonna say.
Forget about following me that I have tough skinning. Forget
about following me. Bro, whatever you can do to live,

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make time for that, please, because they could make time
for that. Like, what does that look like for you?
First of all, if you listen this far in the episode,
what I want you to do is please send the
blind Bin now see podcast a message and let us
know that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
You made it this far.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Yeah, no, definitely, If you made it this far, please
let us know because and the reason why that's important
is because we need to understand who are the people.
And I'm not saying you got to listen to every
episode the whole time, but whoever's making it all the
way to the end, we need to collect that information
and collect that data. And we also need to keep
you in mind because shit gonna be happening. It's gonna
be events, it's gonna be merged, it's gonna be special

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access to things a lot, and we need to keep
people like you and mine, So you not waiting in
the lines when we coming through it like oh no, no, no,
they in the front.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Yeah, that's the fact it's kipping everybody. The merge you get,
you get free access to all that type of shit.
You get it before anybody else get it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
You're getting I'm I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So Patreon coming soon live showing all that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Ship live show, you get front, you get, you get
back back access with everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Else boom and soon I see book.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
You get what I'm saying. So if you, if you're
listening right now, just really let us know. And and
I just want to let you know, like whatever you
can do to live intentionally, please do that. Please do that.
Whatever that means. Like me, I like to go to
the beach sometimes, you know, I like to ride my bike.
I'm always be on the motherfucking city bike until our bike.
I'm listen. I'm getting ready to buy my own in
a minute. But until then, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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I couldn't get ship was going on, you know, I
mean responsibilities, but I like to ride the bike. I
like to go to the park. You know what I'm saying.
And it's like little ways that I claim back my living.
So whatever that look like for you, just claim your
living back, man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
And just pull pull up in my dms or pull
up under a post and put I'm tired of survive it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
I want to live. I know I'm tired of survive it.
I'm ready to live. Put that on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Put a under the post, or hit me in my
dams or tag me in stories, you know, tag me
in stories with a picture at you and put I'm
tired of surviving. I'm ready to live. That mean you
ready to take that step forward to say I got
to better my life and do something different. So that's
what we're gonna were gonna run with that. Man, I'm
tired of surviving.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
We're gonna live. Never know, that might be the episode name.
I'm tired of surviving. I want to live.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
I don't know, but you know you can.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Find me at blamin I C YC H. Happy fourth
of July, have a safe forth of July. Let's put
these guns down, Let's build each other. I be grabbing
a barrel when one goal. We're gonna lead you on
and grabbing. We're all coming out their motherfucking barrel. That's
what I'm about. I ain't about gate keeping none of

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that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
I make it better.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Believe I'm coming back and I'm getting somebody too. That's
how I feel with devigate keep. That's why my podcast
is where it's at.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
I never gave keep. My sister is moving. That's how is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Supposed to be. Put the whole hands and we're all
supposed to come out this barrel. So take that in consideration,
and no, pull somebody up that needs you. And this
is another episode of Blamanazi Podcasts and were out here

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Peace