Marvin Sapp , Man at Mc Donalds and Phylicia Rashad

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Speaker 2 (02:59):
So we Man, it's a lot of stuff that's been
happening in the world.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Man, a lot of stuff. I know y'all seeing it.
We've seen it first. Before we get to how your
mental health? How you feeling this weekend? How you good man?
You know, I feel like that's more important, Like that's
important to action for you know, how you doing, how
you're mental you know, like what space you in? I
feel a lot of people don't do that. There's a
lot of suicide going on, and you know, you gotta
check up on a friend, not just you know or

(03:25):
ratchet shit. You know, action friend, How things is, how
life is, How life is, my brother.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Man, life is good, bro. You know I'm in a
good space right now for sure. Yeah. Focus, staying focused
my favorite thing to tell people.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And when they ask me how I'm doing it, I
like to say, Man, I'm staying focused and I'm staying creative.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Staying focused and staying creative.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Now I did.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I did almost have a crash out moment that we
could talk about off the off the mic. Yeah, he
ain't gonna make it to the mic, definitely, but I
almost had. I almost had a crash out.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Moment, bro, for real, Like I was in them thoughts, Bro,
and I almost crashed out on two individuals. I'll be
having on this sometimes having to breathe very very aggressively,
like the testoe be having those But I just like, yeah,
I'm a bigger person, I'm a better man. Let me
let me just walk away from this situation. You would
have caught me a couple of years ago. I would
have crashed. I was just like, you know, I might

(04:19):
regret this, man. It was like, yeah, sometimes it don't
be worth you.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Remember what you No, I ain't even about to say
that much, but do you remember when you when you
called me? He was like, take that down. Yeah, it's
about that.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, I mean we ain't gonna feed into that.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's about that.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I don't have to block a couple of motherfuckers. Now
block him, get him out.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Of here, out of here, backspace deadly get into this though.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay, So a couple of things that has been going
on in the world, man, but most recently, Man, there's
a story about a father who was going on a
job interview, but I'm assuming he didn't have a place
to take his kids. I end up reading the whole post.
Shout out to the Spiritual Word Instagram account. But it's
a Georgia dad busted for leaving kids one, six and ten.

(05:04):
Those are the ages at McDonald's doing a job interview.
That's what the cops say. Right then I go into
the bio. His name is Chris Chris Louise, a twenty
four year old from a twenty four. He looked way
older than that. He looked way older than that. He
looked at least thirty four. Chris Luise, a twenty four
year old from Augusta, was arrested on March twenty second,
twenty twenty five, for leaving his three young children, ages one,

(05:26):
six and ten, unattended at McDonald's while going to a
job interview. A concerned customer reported the situation, and the
deputies found the children alone at the restaurant's indoor playing
ground playground okay. Luise, who did not have a vehicle,
explained he walked with his children into the McDonald's but
left them there because he didn't want them to walk

(05:47):
back while he interviewed. While he interviewed, Louise was charged
with deprivation of a minor and the children's mother later
picked him up. What are your I don't have children
as a man, as a father, What do you think
about this? Children's are one, six, and ten. So I'm

(06:07):
just gonna say, I'm just say this one thing. I'm
assuming the ten year old was on duty.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, the watcher, Yeah, I'm assuming I ain't gonna I
got mixed feelings about this. I need to need I
need more information on it, because it's like what else
you need? Why he couldn't drop it off with them?
Why he can't drop the kids off with them all?
Why is no is nobody that was available that you
could drop these kids? I need to know more information

(06:34):
far as that, because it could be one of those
parents that take all the responsibilities, have all the responsibilities
to be done on them. So it's like, I got
mixed feelings because it's like if I got to drop
my kids off and McDonald's while I run into an
interview of all places, bro like of all places, it's
like I I by one side. It's like this man

(06:58):
doing what you gotta do to support his family. But
then it's sick people in his word that you could
have came back. Your kids could have been going not teenagers,
They could have hurt theirself, somebody could have did some
harm to them. Somebody could have kidnapped your kids.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
So it's like because it's nobody there, there's.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Nobody there to protect them. They it's me. I wouldn't
do it. Yeah, I wouldn't leave my kids personally, And
it's like, you get this, y'all, what's gonna happen with.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
The kids and this This job better be paying one
hundred thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Not even that's enough. That'll be life changing. You say,
he looked like he twenty five, but looked like he
thirty five.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, he's twenty four. He looked like he thirty four.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, so it's like, I don't know how thirty four
look because I don't know I'm a good thirty four
here you know everybody as you know, but no, like
I don't know his situation. I don't know me per
I wouldn't do it. I couldn't leave my kids in
the mc donald's while I'm running, man, they would just
have to sit in the whole way where I do
the job. Interview, like, listen, I was about to say,

(08:00):
like is it crazy to bring the cat on the job,
and it's crazy, But I had to explain to the interview,
like listen, I really need this job. I want to
be a father to my kids. I want to support
my kids. I clothed them, I feed them, I bade
them like I can put a roof over their head.
I need this job and to show like they in
this hallway, I couldn't leave them. I couldn't miss this opportunity.

(08:22):
Same time, I couldn't leave them behind.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Ether That wouldn't as a person who's in the hiring process,
That wouldn't make me consider you less for the job.
That wouldn't like drop your points in getting potentially getting
the job to me.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, I know that, but at least I'm being honest
with you. Well, what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
What I'm saying is like if I was the person
that was hiring, if I saw you brought your kids,
that wouldn't get in the way of me hiring you
if I think you were good. So in my mind,
I'm like, bring the kids first and foremost. You got
to understand, like, no matter how bad you need the money,
I'm not no matter how bad. And it's like, bro,
I know what it's like to be broke.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Bro this world is crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know what it's like.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
To be broke.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I didn't have to make tough decisions when they come
to money. I'm picking between deoder and toilet paper, Like
it's like that, I know what it's like to be broke,
but the kids are priced.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like can you can? And my thing is that if
the mother was accessible to pick up the kids from
the precinct, right, she could have been accessible to drop
them kids.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well do we need more information too? Because she could
have been at work and got that call and then
it was like, well now I gotta go. So maybe
she wasn't free. Maybe you know what's what this sounds
like to me? And you know, it sounds like to
me that he was in charge of watching the kids.
It was he had custody or you know, these are
his days and this is what he did with it though,

(09:38):
And I understand a man trying to get me, trying to.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Get paid bro.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
But like you said, like going to the bro bro,
crazier things have happened, man, people it's crazy trigger trigger warning.
But family, I'm just I'm trying to say in the
most pc way, especially because of the company were family
members have been for net in the house they live in,

(10:03):
so you know that that's doing and everything, so you
know that that's possible to happen in the outside world.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
McDonald's put too much, that's what That's what they hang
around McDonald's. I used to go to make and so
that's what they hang Grown men go to McDonald's for
Wi Fi. Yeah, for Wi Fi, And we don't know
who they is. They don't even they don't even plan
on eating nothing. They could be in the sage registry.
They could be something looking at your kids, seeing a
potential victim, and you just left them there like helpless.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
So do you what do you what do you think
the ramification should be? What do you think the consequence
should be? Should he do time? No, I don't think
you should not time but a slap.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I feel alright, cool, we're gonna put you through parenting classes.
I feel like resources should be pouring at his dough.
Everybody don't got to go to Everybody don't have to
go to jail more. Resources should be like, hell, yeah,
help daycare, whether it's well something he could that could
that can give him a little help to go out

(11:04):
there and provide for his family because he's trying. But jail,
like jell is not doing nothing but sating the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Can I know what the job was?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Though? I want to know it better be signed. Like,
what kind of job? What kind of job is this is?
You're gonna leave your there to walk back like naun,
I respect the respect. You're trying to hustle, but hustling backwards,
really hustling back with leaving your kids there, that's unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So if you was in this situation, you went about.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
The kids to work and they come, they come in
with me.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Let me ask you this though, if you wasn't, if
you wasn't gonna take them with you took the job
was taking if you wasn't going to, if you wasn't
going to, where would you, ma, I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Dropping your grandson off with you? Yo? It says, I'm
dropping your grandson off with you, Yo, baby mama, take
your kid to work with you? Like y'all established at
these places that they give you a little lingency for
the kid to be there for a little bit. Let
me go out there and get right. There's many options
you could have did.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, well, bro, again, my my my biggest takeaway on
it is that I understand the struggle.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
The struggle put a lot of people in compromising situations
that they would never want to be in. I don't
want to judge him too crazy, though.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I ain't gonna judge him, and just I do no choice.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Though I do disapprove one hundred percent with you leaving
your children at McDonald's. McDonald's is not even the type
of place. First of all, no place is a good
place to leave kids. But McDonald's bring in so many
different types of people, like you know, like no funny shit,
but you could like you can go to like a
McDonald's and then you can go to a Starbucks. It's
two different type of people. Yeah, and maybe that sound crazy,

(12:42):
but at least really but at least you understand what
I'm trying to say. You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Two different type of people, but at the same time,
still a threat.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
One hundred percent. And so my point with him is, like, Bro,
you're leaving your kid. I could I could almost fake
understand what you was trying to do. But at the
same time, if that money wasn't like life change it
doesn't even matter how much it was. But if it
wasn't life changing money, I don't think it was worth
the risk if you potentially put your kids at harm
because even if oh my goodness, because even if your

(13:13):
kids is there. One years old is crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Six years these kids, that's what gave it away. Year
old mind is not even developed. They still could be swindled.
But right like you want to see my dogs, come, look,
my dog's in the car. Absolutely, you need some candy
or you want to go get some toys. Mine is
programmed to go. Absolutely. Don't matter how much you say
and say, oh, don't, don't, don't talk to strangers. It

(13:37):
could be somebody just watching you, watching you like they
just leave and like, oh, your daddy told me to
take y'all to come get y'all, to take y'all to him.
That at getting in the car, they gone. Now he
should have do better. That's heartbreaking, bro, that's heartbreaking. That
made me want to cry for real heartbreaking. I forgot
where it was at. I don't know if it was
in Texas's heartbreaking Texas or well, a thirteen year old

(14:01):
girl was found dead and not being a building arms
and lady shopped though my home father and grandmother and grandmother,
grandmother and the father in jail for that he participated in.
That girl was thirteen years old. I think it was
in Texas. So it's like, if you really love your kids.

(14:24):
You ain't gonna take that lead.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
To y'all rolling with me? Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think that's your character. Yeah, Like listen, it's like,
are you really about this shit? I didn't miss the appointment.
I didn't miss the interview. Same time, I cannot stop
being a father. It was nobody to leave them with.
I had to bring them.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Also, also like no funny shit, but like what type
of decisions have you made in your life to even
force you to be in a pinch like that?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
You almost got to think like what's going on with
this man? Because it's like what poor decisions have you
made in your life to the point where like you
don't got a friend. Let me tell you something about me.
If I have children, I got people that's gonna watch
my babies, period.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I got friends.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Somebody gonna watch my if it's whether if it's not
my friends. I know people. I know adults that I
that I trust, that trust me. I got family members,
I know some neighbors. I got some neighbor you.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
So it's like it almost you gotta think, like what
type of person you gotta be? Well, you can't let
nobody you. You can't let miss whoever in the neighborhood,
the old lady, the grandmother. You know what I'm saying,
like nobody.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Sometimes when you're back against the world, people will do anything.
No man, that's that's that's it's crazy, ship my bad.
Hold on. People don't think when they're back against the wall.
They just straight go well, listen, moving on to the
next subject right here, right, damn, get that man some
services for them kids. You get that man some services.
But so what again, what should the consequences be? No

(15:47):
consequences parent parenting classes? He should be mandatory, right, mandatory
a certain amount of hours of being a like parenting classes. Joe,
I don't feel like because what is Joe gonna solve?
You just set him back even more. M hm. Everybody
don't got to go to jail like parenting classes, manitary
parenting classes.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, Well, the next thing we're moving on to is man.
So this one is tough because Marvin sapp right, Marvina,
what do you see the best? Well, we're not seeing
the best of you this time, Marvin. We ain't seeing
the best of you than me. Everybody that's seen this
by now. But my man's is I'm gonna I'm gonna
play the clip. But my man's is preaching, right, he's he's

(16:30):
he's he's preaching. He's preaching. And they collecting tides. You know,
collecting tides is something that people do in churches when
they pass around a collection play and they allow you
to donate money to keep the church going, to keep
the lights on and keep the water running. This is
what this is supposed to be. Maybe pay some of
the staff, the deacons, the media people, whatever, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Like, and I don't think it's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I think it's like, hey, I don't think it's nothing
wrong with that, right, but this clip. Church is a business.
I don't think a lot of people really realize that.
But in this clip, I don't. I got no words
for this man. And I'm gonna just go ahead and
I'm gonna play it right now.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Ship hold on.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
And they understand them.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
That is involved.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
There's one thousand of you.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I said, close them doors, close them doors, close the doors.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Close the doors, close the doors. Some times four times
you mean business together.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Y'all ain't going no place but to the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Hold on, first of all, mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
There's one thousand of you tonight, and those that are watching,
it's a thousand that's watching online.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
This is a small set.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
A thousand on line to give this.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
If I get a thousand, it's one hundred men on
stage with him, by the way, one hundred men like
a hundred men.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
This is like smack DVD.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Did get put the twenty dollars seed? I just think
twenty dollars a lot of money. Twenty dollars, believe it
or not. When my late wife Melinda pee Sapples Alive
was a good date.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I wonder if he told all the mane.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
To the movies by box and they understand.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Hold on.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's another one. I wonder if he asked all the
men to come up on stage where because pastors do that,
they'd be like all the deacons.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Come up on.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Hold on, let me see sodacorn, get one solda, two straws.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I wouldn't cheat that swag. I was looking at her eyes.
She's looking at my mouth. I can't do that no more.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Now everyone up here, we've all sold and seated, but
I need everyone standing up here with.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Us, with me.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
To plan the seed of one hundred dollars because again,
it costs to sit up here.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I got you, it costs. See wow, So put your.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Twenty away, preachers, that twenty one't for you.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And this is what I need you to do.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
If you're giving electronically, are you even giving tangibly, I'm
gonna have y'all come to the altar and give it
because I need to see a thousand people moving. Bring
them baskets. Bring I want the baskets up here. I
want to see the folk. Y'all start moving. Y'all can
bring it right now, come, come, come from. Even if
you're giving tangibly, just put.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Your hand on the corn. Take your phone and stick
it on the on the bucket.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Take your phone.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
They're taking cash, apps, zels, Apple page crazy. Okay, he
give me some money too, though, not that I don't
think it really helps. Hey, cool, but right, give me
his worship by example, you get drops money in and all.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That My boy said giving worship.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean that's what is right. But who did you
say that? People think?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Okay, so I really want to let the whole thing play,
but we run in the show. So man, where you're
at with it? I'm gonna go through the commons. I
gotta see what the comments time about what you where
you at with it.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
First of all, it's like for you to know there's
a thousand people, and it was this set up. You
ask something at the doors, clicking at the people who
was walking in. Yeah, to know that it's a thousand
people in there. Let's be real, it ain't. That's not
a guest you It was a thousand twenty And I thought,
when you go to church, you give what you can. Yeah,
it ain't old mandatory twenty dollars like. And the way

(20:22):
he went about it is like you're robbing me without
a gun. You holding me hot and robbing me without
a gun. Close the doors, close the doors full time?
What does that mean? Close the motherfucker?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
When you said, like, when you say close the doors,
what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Close the doors? Are standing in front of it. Nobody
can't leave out there.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Because they are. That's what they did. That's what they
do in church. They literally stand in front of the doors.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's what I'm getting out of it. And then the
old old pastor put that twenty yards away. That's that
wasn't for you? So mean you got to like, well,
like frightanches.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
For the pastor though it's like, yeah, you're supposed to
be big boss, especially you rolling up big black. It's like, yeah,
you get a hundo for the regular people get it too.
But I'm just trying to figure out, like when you
say close the doors, Like what does that mean? Because
regardless if I get ready to walk outside that door,
I have that right in that freedom to do that.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
According to him, you can't, So what does it matter
whether the doors are open or closed?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So I think that's where he just messed up big time.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I said at full time aggressive and then see on
Twitter'm I'm gonna go on, I'm a fun story. Messed
up when he acts for twenty dollars whatever happened to
bring with Like the goal is for everybody to donate
twenty dollars get twenty hours. But if you can't just
bring what you can, I ain't know. I had to
come to church with a whole bunch of money. I
ain't know if you're gonna ask me for I don't know.

(21:42):
I just have my different views on you. I went
to one church one time, right, and he like, oh,
I need twenty people to bring up fifty dollars. I'm
looking around. Okay, all right, now we're gonna forty. Now
let me get let me get twenty people. In a
matter of fact, fifty did dad, So let me get

(22:03):
thirty people to bring up forty. I see people going,
oh if I could do, let me get five people
to bring up one hundred. I'm like, what the hell
is going on in here? Then he asks for twenty.
Certain amount of people don he asks for ten? Certain
amount of people do? He asks for five? He said,
I see a lot of y'all didn't get up. Even
if y'all got fifty cent, bring it up here. I'll

(22:25):
take you. I'll put fifty cent and make a dollar.
I said, Oh, I ain't even gonna see what I
was gonna say. But I'm like, he like, come on,
what you don't got No, you don't got no cash.
It's an atm in the back of the church.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
My question is this forty thousand dollars right? What is
it going to? What is it going what is it for?
What is it for? And I'm just genuinely like, what
is it for? And my thing is this?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And we don't know people financials to know that they
even have twenty dollars in their pocket. Some people come
to church for the word, for a blessing unless they're
going through something. They underwater, they under pressure, need the
Lord to lift it off them, to walk them through,
to carry it. And you just diggy up. I can
give twenty dollars. What if I don't got that twenty dollars.
What if I'm having a hard time eating right now? Brother,

(23:10):
I don't got twenty dollars to spare right now.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That's on life. My twenty dollars allocated, They got somewhere
to be, you know what I mean. Like, I don't
got twenty dollars to spare right now. My thing is this,
I'm a Christian. I grew up in a Christian family.
A lot of my uncles are pastors. Like I was
the type of person that was going to church both services.
I'm going more than just Sunday. I'm going for the praise, practice,

(23:34):
all that stuff, you know what I mean. So church
has always been to play a big part of my life.
And I just gotta say, I just got to say
that what is the point of Christianity? Right Like our
hopes is to make this look sexy enough to inspire
people to see the way that we live in and
be inspired by it. Right, and then maybe they dedicate

(23:55):
their life to Christ. That's kind of the whole point
when they say spread the guy. Right. But you gotta
understand there are so many people that are skeptics of
all religions, but specifically Christianity, big skeptics, right, you put
your hands up, So people are big skeptics of Christianity.

(24:15):
You gotta ask yourself, how does this look to the
people because we're trying to we're trying to get people to.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Come over.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
When you I believe that you're doing that and this
being created and made into content, I believe you set
us back because so many people are already on the
fence and now they're like, oh, you pimping us, you
hustling us in the church. Bro, listen, I want my
pastor to look good. I want my pastors to live good.
I want my pastor to look good. I want him
to ride clean. I want my pastor lift. If my

(24:44):
doctor can live a good life, I want my pastor
to live a good life. But this what you're gonna
do with forty thousand dollars outside of what the church
need to keep the lights running. In the water, going like,
what are you gonna do with how? Where am I
gonna see that money for my community?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Man? Where am I gonna see that money? Is it
going into a center where mothers who don't mothers who
gotta go to work and they can't find babysitters place
for your kids? Is it gonna go to there where
they can drop the kids off for free after school
to give them extra help that they need. Like I
believe in God, I love Jesus, you know just that.

(25:21):
But these pastors in these churches, we don't bump showed
to the shoulder, keeping it rail like I just don't
agree on their take on a lot of things. It's
like some passoress. You don't see them unless they need
they it's a call for action. When they need something,
then you'll see them walking through the neighborhoods. Then the
pastor thenated leaders of the community. Honestly, no disrespect. I

(25:46):
feel it's bullshit. Don't get me wrong. Some passes is good,
of course, I feel like it's bullshit. We walk on
we put to be walking on a Christian ale with
a lot of these pastors, is not moving like Christians.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Forty thousand dollars. Though, I just want to know, like
what is the overhead for the church? Like what's the
electric bier? What's the property tax, what's the I don't know.
If you pay a mortgage on, y'all pay tax. You
don't pay taxes on the church. So I just, I
just I just really want to know. And if I'm
offering my money, I deserve it, right, No different than
the way America works. Right, It's like it's my vote,
the police work for me, these my tax dollars. I

(26:24):
get to know quote unquote, even though even though we
know that our money is going to places that we're
not aware of. Right, but like the lie that you
were supposed to believe, right, let's go off the lie.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
The law say.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm supposed to know where my money go. That's what
the law say, as far as the government right to
make you feel good, to make you feel good. So
when it comes to the church, it's like I want
to know where forty thousand dollars is most people, some
people don't make forty thousand dollars in a year. They
don't where is that money going to. I believe that
money should go to a center.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
This guy. Some people don't even make half of that. A.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, this guy who we talked about drop his kids
off at McDonald know, things like that, the church to have.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
That cover church to for help.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
But see, you remember when it was a hurricane that
was going on. I don't remember what city, but it
was about Joe Oustin. Listen as a Christian. See, the
thing is is like and I'm going to pay times
for that, Like we gotta help. See, I believe that
the church is God's house, right, but this church is

(27:29):
in a community, it's in a neighborhood somewhere. You know
what I'm saying. We should be given back, we should
be pulling, we should be helping people. How can we
help the people. If there's a mother that she needs,
she needs they care for her kids, she can go
to that church. Somebody in this church congregation.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
There's a lawyer, there's a credit specialist, there's a stock
you know what I mean. There's a we got, we
got people. Everything, we got. Churches could pull so much
muscles and so much muscle.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
But and so I'm saying, like, with all these talented
people in the congregation, we should have a place in
the church where grown folks can get some help to
you need your credit, come get it done for free.
You're giving your TOIDs even if you didn't, even if
you specifically didn't give Todds. We got so many people
that gave Todds, and we're gonna pay this educator a
little fee.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Come through. They gonna be here from the hours of
this and this. You know what I mean. Sometimes people
just don't have it. People don't have it. You forcing
me to find twenty dollars lock the doors. It's like
you falcing me.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
It's tough. It's tough. What I want to ask? What
do you please do us a favorite? Introduce yourself, tell
us your name, tell us who you are, and then
tell us your story. You said you was in Sunday School,
give us the background real quick and speaking to the
microphone exactly. Okay, yep, hi, you got it. You know
I'm gonna cut that part of go ahead.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
I'm I'm Chris.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Welcome to the show, Tiana, and take on it.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
So I was in Sunday School yesterday and we were
talking about it, and we were like, he never said
lock the door, So at any point he did it,
he didn't. So at any point in time, anybody could
have left, but nobody chose to let. Everybody chose to stay.
So at the same time, it's like, what what was

(29:15):
trying to do? What was the purpose of them closing
the door? I stays still leave, So we were confused
about that part.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
But yeah, that's a that's a fair point. That's a
fair point that That's what I was saying earlier. It's like,
if I can leave whenever I get ready to, then
why like the doors is like more so.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like the perception they stood in front of the doors, I.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Don't know that. We don't know. All we saw was
the broadcast of him being on stage and he had
a hundred deacons on stade. I know there was deacons.
Deacon's got that.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Look, there was a hundred deacons on stage right.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And so again I grew up in church, so I
can I can fathom how some of this might go.
But like forty thousand, I can't fathom that, like this
must be a mega mega, mega church and then like
be transparent, like be honest, like yo, the church going
out of business.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm not saying that's what it is. I have known
that if it is there, okay, cool, let's save that.
But if it's like, yo, we can't make the payment
forever this month, whatever that is. Especially if it's if
it's Marvels out there, maybe you can make an assumption
it might be a big church. He's he's a star.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's like, okay,
well then let us know, like y'all we need money.
We not we we we don't got what we need.
We don't got enough money for the books. Can y'all
come together and help us out?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I don't know. I feeling like some churches is colts.
What you mean by that cool? I mean by that,
I mean come praise it and that, but give me
everything that you gotta he your pocket. I feel like
it's gonna beats. They tell you what you want to.
Let me put my hands on you, all right? That
story my grandfather, right, guysha taking me to my mom Joss,

(30:53):
I could work out before I got the guy. Hold up,
that's what's this, daddy? So open your hand and rub
this on your face and your eyes, and I'm like,
what is this? Holy water? Oh? I got this from
Peter Popo.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Oh yo, roll I like that.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
My grandfather He's like, come on, man, I'm telling you
this is the good stuff. Your eyes don't come back.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'm like, all right, No, he ain't said that.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I rubbed it on that to please them, rubbed on
it this, that and dirt. A couple of years. I said, Daddy,
well happened to that oil? He said, maybe gave me
a bad batch of water, bad batch of holy water.
It's crazy, yo, he said, you know that, He said drinking.
If you're drinking this, I'm not drinking it. Like, what
is what is? What is holy water? Even? I guess

(31:42):
the water that they prayed over, it's like it's haloal
water sent you water, it's hallowed. I'm just like it's allowed, yo.
I'm just like you. But it's really like church is
like that, just getting over on these elderly people. Bro.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
What's crazy is like my grandma. Like I would visit
my grandma every Sunday. And for my grandma was older,
so for the most part, whenever I seen her, she
was laying down, she was in her bed, she was
in her room, and the number one channel she always
had on was Peter pop Off, Bro. And every time
I go in there, I say, big Mama, my grandfather,
I kissed big Mama. I talked to Big Mama a
little bit, but Peter pop Off was always on the
station and when Ma and all that, hold on, hold

(32:23):
on now, hello, what holongbing?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I like, I like my pastor, TDJ your pastor, but
I feel like that's I'm not gonna curse. It could
be swindling people. You think TDJ is swindling people when you
calling them and you're telling them, hey, hey, hey, how
you doing wolf, You're making them feel welcome.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You're supposed to make him feel welcome.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
This, that, and then next you know that welcome, get
that check book out, get the money or the sent
in and everything else. Some of these people know, I
don't got nothing in sending y'all everything they have. The
Bible say, pay tides, Yeah you could. You could pay
ties when you go to but you don't gotta pay
that church tie dischurch tiede dischurch tide.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Pay ten percent ten percent.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
So it's like, why I'm giving Why you telling me
maybe maybe twenty dollars, twenty dollars probably tempersent, No, no, no,
I can't just give you what I can affoid.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
What if the church maybe what if they was lacking
on the ties for a couple of Sundays and they
ain't saying nothing, but.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
They could be lacking all a one What if I
can't afford toimes? Is hard? So you're saying how much eggs? Is? Okay?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Hold on scenario. Let me just ask you. So let's
say four Sundays went by and they ain't really been
getting no tides, and it's like the electric bill, the
property whatever it is, I don't know, the mortgane, the
rent for the church whatever, it's like, they don't know
what they're gonna be able to pay.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
And then marvels sapp come through.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
He the start right, because I don't think he's an
actual path He might be, you know, I mean I
don't and I don't know if he's a pastor for
that property, that church, that address specifically, But what if
he come through, he'd be like, Hey, yo, if y'all
don't get it's been three four Sunday, y'all ain't gave.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It up, give it up? But how do we know
these people have Do you feel but regardless session it
is hard, regardless, do you feel like, do you feel
like if it has been three four Sundays and they
haven't given it that the church is just accept that, bo,
How can the church not accept it if they don't
have it? Marvesap you this big mega started go do

(34:19):
a concert to raise money then and donated to the
church of the church.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You needed this money. What if he said, that's a
lot of work. We can just ask the people because
I know that they got it.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Like, what if the people don't have it, I'm jaxxing
on for something that they don't have.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
But like he said, because I know you're gonna go
out to eat anyway, which I thought was wrong because
it's like, that's my business.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Do you feed what I'm going to do? What about
the people that's not going out, that's going home to
eat whos and nodles and peanut butter and jelly seanwich
just because that's a lot. Yeah, for real, it's hard,
hard for a lot of people. Bro. I don't have
twenty dollars right now. Facts some people more blessed than others.
Just give what you can. That's what God said, give
what you can. Not telling me what if I don't

(34:58):
got twenty hollars? What if this? What if only got
ten out to give? Because I need this? Another tend
to get to work for this week. Hey bro hey
BROT mean I like I like I said, love God,
I will never go agains it. I said. My grandparents
go crazy when I talk about it, but not for
It's like some of these churches be gimmicks. It's a

(35:20):
passage gen right now, white hair right who the pastor?
White hair? Who's at a pastor from Brooklyn that's in generator?
Now all the one who.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
Got robbed that stage crazy, that's leading a flock of people, right, yeah, man, yeah,
yeah man.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Then then we had the curse and pastor right, who's
that It's a cursing passage that just recently died and
he cursed in his church. He had fuck you Fridays
and all had the twerking in the pul pin. He
even wrote a book and had a toll from the
book from the bullshit to thes are you Pastor?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I just think that one thing's important to remember that
religion is a man made construct, not that, not that
the idea of religion, because when you think about the Bible, right,
the Bible was a culmination of multiple authors, people who
was doing incredible things in the world, and they bring
these individual stories together to create what we know is

(36:24):
to be the Bible, right, So it's like God didn't
write the Bible. These men wrote the Bible. So I
say that to say I set the table real quick
to talk about religion. Religion I think is influenced by God.
But we got to understand. Christianity wasn't a thing when
Jesus was walking around the world.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Though.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I say that to say anything that is the inception
or the creation of man, it's susceptible to some bullshit
every single time. And I only say that to say.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
We don't get it right. Be human, we don't get
it right.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I say that to say for my people, I don't
I hate to think that people could feel less inspired
by Christianity because of this, or they believe even less.
But I just want people to know, put your faith
in God, don't put your faith in religion. And I
don't know if that's wrong for me to say it's not,
but I feel like where there's religion, there are imperfect people.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's not that's how you that's what you feel. That's
coming from a religious man. Don't get me wrong, And
mom a sap. My platform is always over the If
you want to come and talk about it. You know,
just podcast is not a little podcast. If you want
to talk about it, if we can talk about it,
or if any other pastor want to come up and
talk about it, how they feel. Man Like we said,
we just two men that have different opinions and we

(37:37):
just be trying because at the end of the day,
I feel church is not doing enough for the communities.
No more, I don't see I really don't see a
lot of pantries going on. No more. I don't see
hot meals being like all right the pantry thing.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Right, church should be running the hot meal every Sunday,
every something.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Every Wednesday, every Thursday something, you know, how like sometimes
you can go to the park give back, even if
you make it sandwiches to give it to them something
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Come on people out here,
it's hungry. And then we just feel like we see
them like it's regular. There's people that look just like
us that's hungry. Don't know what the next mail going
to be, What ain't next check gonna come through? But
we should be able to turn to the church to
go eat, right.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Sometimes you can't pay a bail you got laid or
if we're supposed to turn to the churches, right, this
is what ties.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Is supposed to be for the church should at least
give you a job like and then it's sweet. I
mean yeah, instead of giving you money, they should be
like you, what do you need? You need one hundred
and fifty dollars, I'll tell you what, Come and do this.
When you got time, come do this and you can
get that one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah. But a lot of churches. I ain't gonna say
no names, but there's churches I just don't great away,
and it turns me away from it, to be honest,
I feel turns me away from like the only time,
the only time I'm saying you is when you need me. Yeah,
you need me for a vote, you need me for
to do something like come on? People die every day, summertime,

(38:59):
some time. But eighty degrees. How many people died on Saturday?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
What about funerals? What about funerals?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
How they don't open the doors for the funeral?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
What about funerals just needing to be taken care of?
Some people can't some people can't bury their levels.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Man, it's not even open your doors to the churches now,
don't pay for that fun a wrong. Come here, I
bring the body here, I speak for free. I know
it's hard, why I'm from this neighborhood. I seen your
kid on the corners. I seen your kid playing basketball.
Wrong place, wrong time, things happen. But I'm gonna open
my church for you and your family that could do

(39:32):
the repass downstairs. Get you two hours, you know, eat,
no mingle amongst family, and then okay, cool, we gotta
shut it down. How many churches do that? And if
it's a church I did that, did it?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Shot out to them?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, shout out to you, and that hit me up.
Let's talk about it. But until then, the passes. I
know they haven't been doing it all right.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
So we're gonna move on to this next subject. Right here,
we got the queen, the one, the example, Felicia Rashad.
I love her. I've always loved her. Yeah cosby show.
She was the mom.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
She was a mother to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I've always loved he. I always thought she was
a great example of like a graceful miss beautiful woman.
I always thought she was the illness, you know what
I mean. But anyway, she was on Breakfast Club and
she had something pretty interesting to say. Man, I'm ana
letter Rock.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
You came up in an era of mister shad with
with dignity and grace where everything. So you have a
look at out wild Hollywood is now you just think
to yourself, boy, y'all.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Got it easy.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Y'all, y'all wouldn't have got away with.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
That my day. M hm. You know, I mean you
have a look at Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I could look at the way young ladies dress.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
What's the mother pantout shoulder from here? You know?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
The young ladies are so beautiful. They're so beautiful, and
something has happened in popular culture.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
And I don't mean to be critical, and I hope
young ladies listening don't take this as personal criticism because
I don't mean it that way. But you're young queens.
I'm taken aback when I see on a college you know,
you came up, that's my college campus, college campus, young
women dressed in strips of clothing. But more importantly than that,

(41:30):
no man wants his woman to be out like that.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
Right now. I grew up on method man saying wearing
three fourths of cloth, that was showing your stuff off,
you know.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
It's like there's today's designers. I mean, there's ways, you know,
there's there are other things, and I.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Just leave something to the imagination. It would be nice
something from my eyes only, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
And like you said, they're always being sexy without showing
so much please, and it's really not sexy.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I mean one of the most sexiest, most beautiful pictures
is you.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
I forgot what year it was, but you got on
like a basketball jersey. Gens you need some popcorn?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
That is that iconic white jersey.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yes that was un campus, all right, so.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Okay, yeah, So that's Felicia Reside's take on the way
ladies are dressing nowadays.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I totally agree. I don't want my woman out here
showing all her body or Shawn liked mm hmm. I'd
rather be biased to this. I don't. I wentn't want
my woman to do it, but I like the view
of it. I went one more man walking down the
block showing her ponies and half naked, and you got me.

(43:01):
So what you looking for attention? I don't like it.
Sometimes I want want my girl wearing legends. You got
too much ask for that? What you doing people looking like, nah,
cover up, little head on coat. Yeah, wol your mind.
Like so it's kind of but then it's like, I'm

(43:23):
in the clubs these females is that's working for me?
Have nothing on?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
What is nothing?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Meaning? They have the bathing suit, thongs on, the fish
net stockings, bringing out the bottles, serving drinks like sex cells.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Okay, so it's like, but what about how deep when
you say sex sales? How deeply do you think that
put the door?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, when you when they say sex sales, how deeply
do you think that goes?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Though?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Like it's the sex selling need to be Damn, I'm
trying to say that's the right way the sex sell.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
The sex. Fuck, I'm sorry, hold on, The sex have
to sell everywhere, not everywhere, you know what I mean.
Because if you're at a club, right, that's a certain
type of environment where certain type of stuff go down.
It's appropriate there. But just walking through the streets and
all that, you don't got to do that, baby.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
But if you see this is the thing though, like
this is these the way women dressing and revealing ways
have become more than just something that they do. When
the club has become a part of everyday life.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Now, a girl could be at brunch and she's gonna
take a picture on her grammar and the carousel of pictures,
like you might see some cheek or you might see
some nipples.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Coming through the through the you know what I mean.
But the brunch is like the clubs, and like my
type of brunch is like the clubs. Being though it
was just like it's made it it's more than just
it's it's all over. That's the culture. Now, it's definitely
that's that's the culture. But yeah, it's a woman on
the other side of that screen. I'm like, well, I

(45:01):
can dress the way I dress. I'm paying for it.
Majority women, if you definitely can. I'm not telling you
whatever you cannot do. But as a man, as a man,
I want my woman to dress like covered up. You
don't got to have your your cleavelange always out and
your thong showing, and I do all that. Baby, It's

(45:22):
like you can wear. I ain't telling you dress like
a nun like, no disrespect to nunings, but yeah, you
can dress sexy and still look beautiful covering up.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, honestly, man, Like you said, as a woman, you're
an adult you pay for your own clothes, you pay
your own bills, you pay for your own lifestyle. That's
what it means to be an adult. So you can
do whatever it is that you want to do. But
I think that me personally, any young lady that I'm
going to be involved with, I don't want you to
be out in this world and I don't want men

(45:55):
to be able to see details about your body that
I feel like should be explicitly I don't even know
that's the word is a word today, Yes, a word
that I don't want them to see details about your
body that I think should be specifically left to us
when we're in the prophecy of our own homes.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
And on top of that to it dependent what career
you in too, so like depending on like what career
and y'all fill you in, I feel you should take
heed of how you dress. Like if I see let's say,
like the bad to say like like a doctor, lawyer
or something, and it's like you know Instagram and Facebook,

(46:43):
somebody gonna come across you. Can you take that person serious?
Like you see that person at pompows and this and
the third Yeah, I know that's yeah outside life, But
when I search a person that Instagram's saying come out.
I want to see somebody in suits and dressing casual.
That's the person that was like, right, maybe they're about
their business. Yeah, they're a person with you know, sean skinning,

(47:08):
belly button and all that.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, see through shit is like all right, do this
person want have time to go over my case? Or
is this person gonna have time to do X y Z. Yeah,
Like people think like that, don't It doesn't mean you're
not qualified for the job, but I think a person
would not take you serious pretty much. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Also, like I think that there's just not enough emphasis
being It's just this error that's generation that we live
in in you know what I mean? Like the what
what used to be the standard in her time, it's
not the standard in this time. Yeah, like back then,
women showcase being sexy in a different kind of way,
you know. But like us as especially like black people,

(47:48):
a lot of it, not all of us, because I
want to be I want to be very clear by
not making that mistake, but a lot of us are
raised where like your mother or your grandmother wouldn't even
let you leave the house looking at a certain type
of way, you know what I mean, Like back in
the day, there was once a Timehicken.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Definite on it. So do you think if if it
wasn't as strict as it was back then, do you
think they would have been outside showing the skin. I
don't think that. I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I don't think it has anything to do with that.
I think that Western culture, which is America right, I
think Western culture is a place that constantly is finding
ways to get rid.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Of morals, get rid of values, get rid of integrity.
I think it's getting rid of that.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I'm not saying that if you dress let's say provocative
as a woman, that that means that you don't have morals.
It doesn't mean I'm not saying it doesn't mean that
you have morals, values, integrity. But what I'm saying is
that this culture, through movies, through television, through magazines, through music,
it's all about sex. And I think that what we're
experiencing is the the change between women of Felicia Rashad's

(48:52):
air to the women now is that you're finding a
slow influence to get women to get to wear less
and less clothes, you know, And I think it comes
from specifically men. First of all, before a lot of
the time, before we get to making critical judgments about women,
we got to look at us as men first.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
You know what I mean, Women we love it. Men.
Women become this way because our influence is will be
a drow this will be attract It start with us first, right,
because we buying magazines where Shorty's looking a certain type
of way. Men are watching either street men are watching
like pouring and stuff like that, right to the point
where it's like you could be in a whole relationship.

(49:32):
A woman might come into her house and realize that, oh,
like he's spending some of his attention he could be
spending with me, he's spending it on stuff like this.
Maybe that that's clearly what he likes.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Let me become more of that, right, and so what
I'm just like this or even like in school, Right,
it's like there's one girl in school. She get all
the attention, she got all the boys, right. The other
girl thinking like, dang, like how am I supposed to
compete with that? But I want the boys attention, not
knowing no better, right, Because she's young, she's impressionable, so
she's thinking, well, then let me show a little.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Let me let me make the short go, let me
cut up these you know what I'm saying, Let me
tie this shirt in the bag belly. But you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
You get know what I'm saying, because to women, attention
is power. Attention is power. To a woman, Looks is currency,
that's money you could buy things with that in this world.
Depending on how good you look, depending on how sex
you are, might try it. And try it with me, now,
you know what I'm saying. Depend on how good you look,
depending on how sex you are, that might say how
much influence you can have in this world. And so

(50:31):
I do think that it's more of a problem of America.
And when I think, when I say that, it's really
it's a man problem because men are not having higher standards.
Therefore women can't have higher standards.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
We don't love the hard we love the looks.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I need to say that when I think that was
a bar. Men don't have higher standards, so women can't
have higher standing. And yes, it's a lot of men
in the world that's saying. You know, I prefer natural
over the BBA. You know what I'm saying. I don't
want my girl being like that. But for every one
man that's like that, there's ten who going against the program.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I love my woman covered up in natural bud. I
still love to look at.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
That though, but I just think that it should be
contextual though, you know what I mean. And also every
household gonna have different rules. So if you and your girl, y'all,
if you feel comfortable with your girl being dressed a
certain type of way, and y'all going out to have
a night on the town, y'all going out to the restaurant,
y'are going out to the to the concert or whatever,
and then then let that be y'all think you know
what I mean that whatever's comfortable.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Float your boat, floats your boat. But I wouldn't want
my woman knoker outside and no see through, paying to
none of that animal I don't want. And the biggest
change your clothes, Yeah I don't want. I wouldn't even
want my daughter or my mother or my sister. I
don't want it.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
And the biggest reason why I don't want that is
because I don't want another man seeing what I work
hard to have. I don't even want him seeing what
I work hard to have. Think about it, I have
to go out on dates with you. I spent a
lot of time being charming to you, being the gentleman,
spending money to you, know, because I want to be
with you, right, And then one of the perks of
being with you is we get to be intimate with

(52:02):
each other. There's certain intimate parts about your body and
your essence as a woman. I don't want another man
to see at all, because he didn't do half the
work I did.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
To be with you or even imagine that woman.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
He can imagine. That's his free will. He can imagine
what he wanted to imagine. But I don't want him
to see nothing.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, but if you see it, one man, just regular
jeans and a shirt, and that, damn your imagination ain't
gonna go off. As if you see something see through
you like god, damn right, legans on, but Pogan that
that makes your mind explore more. Right, So it's like,
just dress appropriate, that's all. Some people be coming to

(52:38):
graduations like that. One time.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Let me tell a story, quick story, real quick. One time,
me and this girl I was talking to who was
getting ready to go to a concert. Right, it was
gonna be an outdoor concert. And that day, first of all,
like I was. I had stated the night at her
house the night before and I was running the streets.
I was sweaty, I was nasty. I didn't have no
clean clothes on, and so all I had was like

(53:02):
a regular T shirt and some basketball shorts on or
something like that, real regular. I had to borrow her
clothes and because I couldn't wash my clothes at the time.
And she got dressed up and she had like a
super short skirt skirt on, you know what I mean,
And she had like she was you know, she had
like a tank top on.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
She did her hair, She looked great. But the thing
is like I look like a bum and you dressed
like to the nine. And on top of that, like
her skirt was so short that if she bent over it,
if she bent over it all. And so I told her, like,
I think you should change. And she was really upset
with me.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
She was really upset with me, and she thought that
I was being insecure. But my thing was like listen,
when you have fun and you get drunk, you like
to dance, you like to bend over, and we out
and we outdoors, people saying your were so when you
the minute you bend over, I know you're trying to
have fun, but you gonna bend over and you can
because you loving the song. And he gonna see your panties,

(53:56):
and he gonna see your ass, and he gonna see
your he gonna see your body. And why is it
so hard for women to understand why we don't want
their bodies to be revealing to the rest of the world.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
She respects you, She'll definitely understand and move according to
how you feel. I'm not telling you or let me
approve your clothes before you go outside, but just know
when you leave it and going outside, you represent me.
You you got morals. You gotta respect for yourself. You
gotta respect for me. So certain things you just know,
like all this saint it ripping the gene. I don't
care about that. But some of these girls be having

(54:28):
in the clubs like they paying some button throng showing
and it's not I mean, it's good for the eye,
but it's not good for the goose.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Do you think that the real issue is is that
men sexualize women? Yes, exactly what it is like should
a woman be able to walk out the house without
a bra on?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Because when we see a woman without a bra We're
thinking like, oh, titties nipples right because you can see it, right,
you can see it.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
That's braw.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
But is that them problem or is it really a
us problem? Because if we didn't sexualize it, then it
would be okay.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Hey, it's a both of us problem.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It's a both of us problems.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, you coming outside? You normal? Look you move like that.
You know I'm gonna look. So it's like you want
the attention. I love the sight. Yeah, I see that.
I'm definitely gonna run down. You have a minute in
your time. Now you've pro you have that bra on.
It just be so okay, I'm not looking at the nipples.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I never really got a woman's attention before. When when
a nigga hit that line like hey, sweet ye, how
you doing? Can I get a minute of your time?

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, that's worked. A woman was like, yeah, you can
get a minute of my time.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah I did it plenty of time. Stop lying, bro,
Well I'm dead ass serious. Hello, how you doing, beautiful?
Could I get a minute of your time?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
A minute of your time?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, she gave you a minute of time, more than
a minute. I'm like, hey, I see you, univers, I
see you can I walk with you right now? You
can do whatever you want? Okay, cool, I walk, I
talked once. You make her laugh? You got the number?

Speaker 2 (56:02):
You got the number. Yeah, listen, let me move on
to this next one. It's the last one.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
So this is a tweet shout out to my man
Ike Slimster. I follow him on the ground. He made
a piece of content about a tweet, right, So I'm
gonna get credit to him first and we can talk
about the tweet that he pulled. He pulled a tweet
from this lady. Her name is Bombshell. I tried to
find your Twitter. Apparently it's a hundred bombshells on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I know a bomb show too from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Bomb Share with a zero. She said eighty percent. Excuse me,
she said, eighty percent of men's female friends. I failed
talking stages. I will die on this hill. I kind
of believe him, Yeah, I kind of believe it. She
said eighty percent.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Let's be that's a hot that's a hog, bro.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I'm not even trying to be funny, but let's not
give men more credit than they actually deserve.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Okay, yeah, but not a whole mendo.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, but please, but please.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I got friends, female friends that I didn't never try
to get. Bro.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
The only men that really exercise like restraint and like
manners are man who used to get in something they're
not hungry for they're not pressed for it.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
That's not a lot of men though. Yeah. But then
but then sometimes you can have a female friend. I
don't feel not wrong with like because that then that
you you been around this person, right, this is your
friend to run this person, that person could show value
of things that you like in life, that you would
love to have to hold to be with. So all
good relationships start off as friends, don't they No, Bro,

(57:38):
that's bullshit. Or relationship. Good relationship don't startup as friends.
They do. But like be for real. I am for real.
I don't think you are.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I'm not because you gotta be honest.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Most of the time when a guy, when a guy
got a girl and then he say that's his friend,
he tried if he had his way the first time
he would have had he would have had an intimate
relationship with that woman. I disagree, Bro, you're bullshitting. No,
I'm that I disagree, are you bro? Think about Ben?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Not you?

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I'm saying, but old men don't care. Old men don't
think like that. Though. Nobody's saying all men. She said
eighty percent. Like that's a higher percentage.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
So what' should number be then?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Fifty fifty? No, I have know. I'm telling you that
I know people that friends that never even try to
cross the.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Line because they got attracted to them. Maybe.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
No, my friend are very attractive. I never try to
talk to it.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Bro majority of the time when a guy want to
be friends with a girl, majority, yeah, he's a lot
of the time. I got listen, let me just say
that I got a lot of female friends that my
friends never had anything go on with you try to
talk to none of them, all.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Right, But that's me.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I know that I'm a rare case, all right, that's you.
Most men are not the rare case.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
That's me.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Most men are not the rare case. Most men that
they're very I don't even blame them for it. I'm
not even saying they do nothing wrong. But what I'm saying,
I mean, you, your friend is attractive, like you what
you see why not? Things can great things can come
out of it.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Guys, A lot of.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Listen too many times when we come to relationships, we
talk about women putting men in the friend zone because
she's not attracted to him, But we don't nearly talk
about enough how the man put himself in the friend
zone as it hopes to get in a relationship. That happens.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
That's what I'm saying. Don't bullshit, bro, don't bullshit because
you know that that happens. You know that that happens. Bro.
Come on, it happened to me once. Happens to me once,
just one good time. One time, it happened to me once.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
You purposely put yourself in the friend zone to get
close and then hopes that eventually, while you close, you
can convince her that you're a good guy.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I try to try to talk to her, she shut
it down right and then okay, cool, so we could
just be friends. Then later on it became open friends,
and that shit you're talking about right there even went
to I mean, I even put a ring on. That
should happened a lot, But I don't feel that wrong

(01:00:10):
with it. I ain't saying there's nothing wrong. I ain't
mad at the dude for doing that. It's not a
higher percentage though, because I have female friends that is attracted.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
But I never tried it, bomb Shell. I'm picking up
what you're putting down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I agree with you. I agree I keep it in
the friend zone because sometimes you cross that line, you losing.
You're losing a friend that you will never have if
things don will never work out. You think most men
care about that if they changed their friendship. They should.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Most men don't care about that. Most men thinking with
their little head, not the big one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I was not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I guess I'm not that you, but most were talking
about most men.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
You was you was in the streets, bro, I was
in the streets, Biggs, I know they was acting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Come on, I was in the streets. They dogs not
all men though, No, not all men. It's only twenty percent.
It's not it's more than fifty. I'm gonna just tell
you that it's more than fifty. Sixty Fine, but it
ain't fifty though, it ain't eighty. Okay, but it ain't fifty. Yeah,
but I said, like, everybody don't think like that, Like
a good friend is hard to find, so you got it,

(01:01:11):
got to hold on to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
You think men thinking that are good A good friend
is hard to find.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
You think men really think like that. There's something doing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
They're fools, bro, most men are fools. Yeah, they don't
think like that. They're not thinking. That's that's the intuition
you talk. That's wisdom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I cherish my friendships me too, a lie. I cherished them,
a lie. I cherish them. I give them advice and everything.
They give me advice and everything. But now one time
I think in my head like, damn I want to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Well yeah, me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Neither what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
But well, listen, those are the topics of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Yeah, my boy, he said he flipped the hat back around.
When when we're done, when he means, benness, he flipped
the hat around. You know what I'm saying, we've done.
That's how you know, you flipped the hat around. But yeah,
those are the topics for the day man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Now, women talk, let's talk more about that eighty percent.
You gotta really talk more on that. Yeah, like and
see and see where it goes. But oh yeah, by
the way, rest in peace to Miss White. That's my
sixth grade teacher. She died last week or the week before.
Rest of Miss White. I mean and hubb We had

(01:02:16):
history together. She kept me out of she kept me
out of trouble and when I got shot, she came
to the hospital visit me twice and all like, even
though we had a little, you know, a little altercation
that it stopped her from talking to me when she
seen me. And I mean when I got shot, she
came in. We wreck a side day, you know. I
mean we came back as one rested piece of miss

(01:02:37):
white though. I mean, life is short. You check up
on people, man, Yeah, for sure, definitely. But where can
they find you up? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Man, you can find me at Underscore Wolf Taylor Halfway podcast.
I call it halfway up because you never finished rising.
It's a self development podcast talking about all type of shit.
You just gonna have to go over there and check
it out. But yeah, man, this is great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Drop one everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Whenever I get ready to bro I ain't drop consistently
in a long time. It's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
They don't know this. It is a job. Is a job, man,
This is really a job. Is tiring. When you got
a flyard, fly in, get in the studio, do a
lot time consuming everything. A lie, it's a lot of work.
It'd be weighing me down. But if I don't drop,
y'all be looking for me. So I'm here but you know,
I wanted to leave y'all with There's no mountain high

(01:03:25):
that you can't climb, there's no ocean big enough that
you can't swim, there's no obstacle that you can't finish.
It's no goal that you're accomplishing. If you don't got
the motivation, lock into the blomber down see podcasts and
just look at me, don't step into don't step unless
you're gonna step, big blonde stepper peace. Ah alright, that
makes so much sense now, who that was cool