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Hey, welcome to the Book BeardRadio Show. I'm doctor Robert Benson.
As always, before we get started, we want to say thank you to
Jehovah. Thank you for a son, Jesus Christ, thank you for our
families. Thank you for work andour ability to do the things we're able
to do. And I'm hanging outwith my main man, Eddie. Hg
Yo, what's up black Son?Yeah, I'm on, I'm on on
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tour man. Speaking of famous people, I'm at I'm at the Four Seasons
in Beverly Hills right now. Okay, I'm at the same I'm at the
same four Seasons that your boy wasat the lawyer for Trump. We're not
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gonna allow Eddie to a further trickour guests because we got limited time.
But to day, we got areally really cool guy hanging out with us.
You're gonna find out how cool itis and why we think he's cool
in a few seconds. But there'sa term that's out there called pH D
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and it's oftentimes misused and not fullyunderstood. Our next guess or our guess
it's gonna talk to us about thatvery thing. What's up, mister Byron
Johnson? Are both of y'all doingall right? Brother man? How are
you all right? Man? Howare y'all doing? Doing great? Great
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holidays? Well, so we're tryingto live and maintain and eat, drink
and be merry and all those otherthings. You know. Yeah, but
byban man, talk to us aboutyou. What exactly is it that you
do and why do we even care? I'm barber and the hairstyles. I
do both. So I call myselfa cosmetological entrepreneur, and I work in
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film and industry, and I stilldo. I still do my you know,
what what I do to get toget ahead in life, and that's
work in the salon. Okay,So there's a lot of people to work
in the salon. Byron, stopslightness and tell us exactly who you work
for and what did you do ona regular basis. On a regular basis,
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I work in film and film andtelevision. And my my number one
client is Tiger pay all right,you know I'm his personal barber. Cool,
And what other work did you do? I mean, I groom him.
I'm his groomer, and that's whatI do. Okay, Well,
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listen, whenever he's whenever he's onTV or doing uh, doing the show
in movies. Um, I'm everywhere he is. Wherever you see Tyler
Perry, I'm behind the scenes.Oh cool, Well, I would imagine
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that is most certainly a coveted positionin the industry. How did you end
up getting a position? Man,that's that's that's that's your crazy story.
I um, I was. Iwas day playing on one of his shows.
I have been trying to get intothe industry for about five years.
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And I was on this show andthis actor came on and he had his
he had his hair colored. Butit color you know, it color their
skin too, you know when theyyou know the guys do now they color
their skin, you know, andmake the hair look fuller. And they
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asked me, you know where itwas Byron? This is my first day
on you know, my first dayon the show. And I said to
you know, I said here.I went over to where he was at
because he was directing the show.And uh. He asked me, Um,
what's up with this guy's head?Can I can? I can?
I say what I said, Saywhatever you want to say, because I'm
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passionate about what I do, youknow, So I said, he said,
you know what's going on with thisguy's head, and I said,
I don't do no s like this. I don't, I don't, I
don't. I don't work like that. I color hair on color skin,
and uh right, he asked me, said, well, what can we
do about it? I said,if you put topics on his which is
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a hair filler, it's gonna looklike dust. So you can't put that
on it because we're working in HD, you know. So I said,
the best thing I can say isput a hat on him, get covered
up, to make him, makehim look natural, because other than that,
he would look faking HD. Youknow, you would have bed.
He looked like a football helmet,right, you know, And I gotta
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take away shine so that the onlythe only other way to get out of
that is put the hat on him, you know. So after that,
I've been you know, I wentback to I went back to Actors Rowers
where we do the hair, andthe department here came to me and said,
you know, miss Parry want youin his office. And um,
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I went to his office. Youknow, they said, package stuff,
taking stuff with you. Now I'mthinking I'm losing my job by the way
I spoke to him, you know, but I said, mom, wrong,
man. You know I'm gonna speakbecause I'm passionate, you know,
I mean, I was so upsetbecause I figured, I said, Okay,
this is my opportunity to get in, and I figured someone's gonna take
you know, they're trying to takemy job from trying to sabotage my job.
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So I backpacked my stuff, wentup to the office and he said,
can you cut my hair? Isaid yeah. So years before that
I had seen him at a showin Philadelphia at the Merriam Theater and I
said to myself, if this manget in my chair, one time,
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I got him and that was myone time right there, and he sat
and he sat in my chair.I cut his hair and he said to
me, he said, what Iowe you? I said nothing, because
you already paid me for working here. And you know, you know this
is this is you know, thisis a dream come true for me,
you know, and U and Iwalked out. So he called me back
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a second time, and I didthe same thing. I packed my stuff
and I walked out. So thethird time he said to me, you
just sain't gonna take my money.I said no, because I mean,
I appreciate the opportunity to get todo it. So I cut his hair.
I get back to Actors Row andit was a sizeable amount of money
inside my case. You know,I can't say how much it was.
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It was a sizeable amount of moneyin my case. And then, you
know, I was shocked. SoI got a phone call a couple of
days after that and he said,can you go away with me for thirty
days? And that was my firstjob, you know, to travel with
him. And he's been almost twelveyears now. Wow, that's great.
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Well, we're gonna take a quickbreak. We're gonna come back to you
and get deep, deep into thestylings of mister Tyler Perry, and we'll
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Hey guys, welcome back to theBook at Dad Radio Show with Doctor Roland,
Red Benson and the Petty Gee.We broke into the in depth conversation
we were having and I want ourguests to jump back in and kind of
talk about his first experience with TylerPerry. And I had a quick question,
which was, how is it whenyou're on the road for such a
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long time and being a stylist.I know you're not styling here for ten
hours a day, so what isit that you do in between. I
make sure that there's nothing out ofplace. I make sure the beard is
right, make sure his hair isright. You know, no matter how
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long it's short, the hair is, you know, you still have to
make sure it's right. And whenhe gets in front of the camera,
you know, we have a monitorwe look at to see if anything's out
of place, see something sticking up, a piece of hair sticking out his
beard. I just make sure everythingis in place, you know, make
sure he's well groomed, you know, from every side, you know,
and then there's no no spots,no shining, you know, just make
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sure he's one hundred, ay Byronlike in the industry, certainly Tyler Perry
is an the only person's who yougroom and who you work with. Certainly
he's the number one, But thereare other people you deal with correct,
yes, yes, So what aresome of the challenges you deal with when
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styling people who are at that leveldealing with the I would think the nth
level of egotism, so to speak, And how picky can some of them
be to the point where they're annoyingor they're not trusting your judgment and what
they should do? Well? Uh, yeah, First of all, you
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have to earn their trust, youknow, from what I've learned over the
years. You know, you haveto earn their trust because a lot of
them are coming from other barbers,and you know, you're I look at
it as an opportunity to put mybest food forward, you know, and
and I have to sell my talent. I have to sell my gift,
you know. And and it worksfor me, you know, when you
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have something that come in there andthey have their I'm gonna say ego,
but I don't. I don't knowif it's much ego what you call it,
you know, but they have acertain look that they want or they
want to achieve, you know,And I'm a type of stylist that I
look at what you're wearing. Ilook at your face to shape your face
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and make sure that it fits you, you know, because I will suggest
if something don't look right on you, I'm gonna say something, because you
know, you're representing me when theywhen they're on top one, when they're
in front of that television camera,you know, or in front of a
big audience, you're representing me.That's my work that you're showing. So
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I take pride in what I putout there, don't It doesn't matter what
they think, because I'm gonna givethem. You show me what you want.
I'm gonna give you what you wantbecause I'm a perfectionist. So I'm
gonna try my best to give youeverything that you want. So when you
walk out the door, people cansay, oh, I know who cut
your hair? That's crazy, youknow, Byron. Is just one thing
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I have to notice is that youhave this outgoing personality. How is it
that guys like you, like usend up out among the masses. What
is it about your personality or yourexperiences that have got you this point,
I know you're a graduate from anHPCU. I know that you're from the
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same hometown that Eddie g and Iare from, Chester, Pennsylvania. Talk
to us about that that escalation throughoutyour life and how you've used those experiences
to come to where you are.Well, as you know, y'all know
where we come from. Our hometownfull of critics, so they made me
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better. I give if I couldall my accolades to the city in Chester,
Pennsylvania. You know, people havebad things say about the city,
but this city molded me into whatI am today. And on top of
that, my confidence. And youknow, my Lord Savior because he gave
me a gift and he told me, if I don't use it, you
know he's gonna take it from me. So I took the opportunity to enhance
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it because I went to more thanone school. I started school in Philadelphia,
I went to school in Virginia,I went to school in DC,
I went to school in Maryland.I I I love learning. You know,
people ask me all the time whenyou're gonna retire. I don't.
I'm not gonna retire. You know, I'm not gonna be tired I'm not
gonna stop learning. Everybody I knowthat stop that retired it was dead demise.
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I'm not gonna I'm not giving up. If I can't, if I
can't do anything but my hands,no more, I'm going to tease.
And it's so interesting that you mentionedthat, because I found myself thinking that
same thing, that if I can'twork, if I don't, if I'm
not able to do what I havepassion for, I may as well find
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something else to do. But let'stake a couple of minutes here and talk
about the fact that you've actually appearedin some of the projects that of your
boss. Yeah. Yeah, matterof fact, I gotta call. I
got a couple of texts the daythat day that I was on TV that
you know when when he got hisstar on the Walk a Fame. I
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mean, I remember that, butyou know, it doesn't really mean nothing
to me. But I did getmy first cameo. It hasn't come on
yet, so I can't I can'tspeak on it, but I can't say
I got my first cameo on oneof his shows, and it's it's uh,
it was funny because I was goinginto like I said, when you
know when you're doing people on setduring the show, you have to make
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sure their hair is in place too. So I'm getting ready to go out
there to a groom, my mytalent, and and he said to me,
Byron, get in there. Isaid, all right, I'm with
that and out in there, youknow. And I did. I got
my little fifteen minutes of fame,you know. I got about two segments,
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two, three segments something. ThenI'm in there. Though. It's
awesome. Well, one thing wewant you to make sure is that you
continue to listen to us, becausewe had people like Byron here hanging out
with us, talking to us abouthigh level experiences. I mean, come
on your Tyler Perry's barber. Yougo everywhere with him? Oh can I
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show Hanging Out with Eddie Iceg inOur Main Man Byron Johnson. Byron Johnson
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is a cosmo tadge ecological entrepreneurial.Did I pronounce that correctly? Burn?
Cosmic theological cosmictological entrepreneur. Okay,thank you for correcting me. But what
does that mean? In really?More interestingly, what is your cosmotisic look?
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Cool? Professionalism led you into becomingan entrepreneurial um, telling myself my
products and my skill, you know, and uh, that's what I enjoy
doing, you know. Um,how can I say this? I have
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I had a bucket list for everythingthat I'm doing in this business and so
far, you know, my mymy little savior is taking me where I
want to go, you know.And there's no better ride to take than
this ride I'm taking right now.And you know, it's it's a blessing.
It's a blessing, you know.And like I said, it's still
surreal to me. It's brand newevery day. It's brand new, it's
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brand new experience. And I justtake it as you know. It's a
job, you know, and andI'm trying to keep my job, so
I'm gonna stay on point. That'swhy I continue to you know, ire
In, I like what you're saying. And you know, there's a saying
that we have, which is chancefavors the prepared mind. And you're in
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a situation when you talk about yourcareer that you were prepared. So when
Tyler Perry said, Hey, canyou do this? You said sure,
And I gave you that opportunity tomove to the next level. And now
you're taking that opportunity to build upby having your own products, which is
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really interesting. Yes, tell usabout your products well as when I started
doing. When I started cutting head, the first thing I said to myself
was I want to I want tohave my own razor because a friend of
mine used to call me raisor sharks, so I called so I took.
I took that and said, look, I'm gonna bring out my own razor
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because I like using the razor.I like cutting raisins, shaping people with
the razor, shaving with the razor, you know, because I grew at
old school, you know, inthe sixties until now, and I always
wanted to bring out my own razor. And then when I got into more
cutting, because I used to inthe barbershop, I would cut women's hair,
you know, and then they wouldgo to the hair salon and get
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their hair finished. I said,something wrong with this picture. So I
decided to go to school for kyldmatology. They're gonna need to go to school
from barb I'm gonna school for kyldmatology. That way I can do everything.
And I didn't just go to ablack school. I went to both black
and a white school, so Ican learn everything, you know. And
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even getting into the film industry,I learned even more about wigs, applying
wigs, applying wigs the men,you know, like one of the fasts
that's going on now, you know, the man we eve and all that.
These things I've learned being in themen and being in the film industry,
I learned it before it became abig, a big deal. And
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when it came to cutting women's hair, I always wanted to have the right
shears because some shears could tear hairand some shears, you know, can
really cut hair the right way it'ssupposed to be cut, and you don't
want to you don't want to fraightthe hair or miss the hair up with
the wrong type of shears, youknow. So I I found some people
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and got some people to develop myown shears, and I did accomplished getting
my own razor. But on topof getting my own razor, I just
got a whole kit of my razor, my shears, and my thinning shears,
and I put them in a wholelittle package. And besides that,
I have beard filler pins where youknow, some guys have spaces and their
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beers and my beard Feller pins.You can fill them in. You can
even outline and make your make makeyour outline even stand out even more.
And you also use a you know, a pin and the brush. You
take the brush to blend it into make it, make it blend so
it won't look fake, you know, because some of people, some of
the guys I make, they makeit look real fake. They make it
too somehow, and and and thenit looks fake. I wanted to look
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as natural as it can. WellBurne. It sounds like some great stuff.
How can people get it? Um? Well? Right now, I'm
trying to build a website and I'mtrying to find the right way and the
right people to help me market it. So I can't get it out there
because I did, I'm green whenit comes to this, you know.
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The hard part for me where itwas getting my razor and getting my seat,
my shares and my other product,my beard Philippins, to get them
on manufactured. So now I havemy surplus, you know, and I'm
ready to get started. But Ijust need the right people to show me
what to do, you know,because my job is I do hell,
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I can't do the market and Idon't know how to do that. You
know, I went to school.I learned a little bit about advertising,
but when it comes to marketing,that's that's you know, you can market
and still sit on your products.I don't want to sit on my products.
I want him to go. Iwant him to go right, And
I'm ahead. If if you mademe look like Lenny Kravit's, I might
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be able to help you out.Oh man, I give you some hair.
I give you some hair, justlike can some hair ain't gonna be
enough. Yeah, you know,man, we were so happy you came
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to hang out with us today.Man um, we definitely want to reach
back out to you and let everybodyknow, Hey, you heard it.
First, I'm going to look atthat radio show at Byron Johnson has his
own hair grooming products and he parlayedbeing cosmetologists into an entrepreneur. Now he
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has combined those words and syllables andfinals that I just can't seem to get
right. It's great with myself.I created that myself. So with Eddieg
real quick for some closing remarks.Well, first of all, Byron,
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I want you to let everybody knowyour Instagram handle so they can catch up
with you to get some of yourproducts and give us the name of those
products. Again. You can hitme on Instagram and Byron Johnson BJ and
my DM if you're gonna purchase mysyears you know, or my really let
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you see him this is my product, all right, you know. And
Bed Philippins Byron Johnson BJ. Youknow, I just gotta getting my brand
out there, you know. Andyou can reach you on Instagram and Byron
Johnson BJ. No no spaces betweennamed Byron Johnson BJ is connected to the
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end of it. Yeah, it'son the screen. M all right,
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thank you. Ag another great showwith a great guest and a great
friend. But we just want toclose out to the show with the quotas
we always do. And it's kindof analogous to being like Rags the Richest.
We all start somewhere and end upanother place. Guy Willing and then
protecting us. It's always better.So what that said, You can go
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from eating b Loney to eating caveaards. It's that simple. Let's flocking that
radio shack. I'm doctor Robert Benson, and we'll talk to you next time.