December 22, 2023 • 22 mins
As someone whose hair is thinning, I was intigued when hearing about Laser Phototherapy (LPT), which is eight times more powerful than any drug. That's why I invited former NASA scientist Sayyid Tamim Hamid, LPT's inventor and author of the book Grow it Back, as the first and only book to cover all aspects of laser treatment for hair. Tamim references extensive clinical studies and translates decades of research into easy-to-grasp terms so anyone can appreciate the benefits of this technology.Grow it Back could be a benchmark guide to understanding hair, a step by step guide on how to stop and regrow one’s hair and LPT through research, development, and innovation while educating readers about the advantages of using LPT over other types of treatment
Broken down into distinct sections, Grow it Back covers every aspect of hair growth and loss, hair treatments, and LPT, as well as the science behind how lasers can stop and regrow hair using LPT, Tamim’s own invention for treating hair loss. He begins with a discussion on the benefits and uses of light in health and the medical field. Next, he dives deep into the science behind hair, covering everything readers could possibly want to know about hair. This includes what types of shampoos to use, why biotin is worthless, what supplements are best for hair loss, and much more.
Get the book here: Grow It Back: How Laser Phototherapy Stops Hair Loss and Regrows Your Hair - Kindle edition by Hamid, Tamim. Professional & Technical Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
Broken down into distinct sections, Grow it Back covers every aspect of hair growth and loss, hair treatments, and LPT, as well as the science behind how lasers can stop and regrow hair using LPT, Tamim’s own invention for treating hair loss. He begins with a discussion on the benefits and uses of light in health and the medical field. Next, he dives deep into the science behind hair, covering everything readers could possibly want to know about hair. This includes what types of shampoos to use, why biotin is worthless, what supplements are best for hair loss, and much more.
Get the book here: Grow It Back: How Laser Phototherapy Stops Hair Loss and Regrows Your Hair - Kindle edition by Hamid, Tamim. Professional & Technical Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
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(00:06):
Welcome to book Spntrum. I'm yourhost, Chris Cordany. This is where
we talk with not usually seasoned writers, but authors of books by people with
varying occupations across the spectrum. Withme now is a scientist from NASA.
However, we're not going to betalking about super nova's planets or space flight.
We're going to discuss something that hitsa little closer to home. How
(00:29):
about that hair loss, at leastfor many of us. Tamin Hamid has
written a rather intriguing book, GrowIt Back. That's right, it's called
grow It Back. That sounds intriguing. The full title, grow It Back
How laser phototherapy stops hair loss andregrows your hair naturally. My curiosity was
(00:49):
rather piqued. Thus I invited Tamiman. Welcome to book Spectrum. Tamim Hamid,
Good morning, Chris. Thank youso much for having me. I'm
glad I have you here because I'venever really talked about this subject with anybody
except for people who tell me myhair isthentic. That's a different story.
But I keep talking to people whoreally don't know much except for what they
(01:10):
read. Now I have you.You're a NASA scientist, so you will
know from whence these things come from. But before you tell us what actually
inspired you to study hair loss,please tell our audience a bit about yourself,
maybe how you got interested in science. And some of you work for
NASA, if you don't have tokill me after telling me that is absolutely
(01:30):
now, thanks for the question.Yes, by the way, it's former
NASA scientists. But I was therefor ten years at Kennedy Space Center.
But yeah, I've always been interestedin space and technology. But I came
from really a country that had absolutelyjust one radio and that was it,
(01:53):
right at one radio station, NoTV, know nothing. And as I
progressed through life time, I movedto France and then backed and then a
little bit more, a little bitmore technology. Then all of a sudden,
that's when I got introduced to theUnited States. When I was right
(02:15):
I'm seventeen years old. I sawamazing technology here in America, and I
got interested in anybody could do anythingin America. So I was really interested,
and I saw a TV show calledI Dream Genie, and that's where
I would fell in love with thespace program. I Dream of Genie then
(02:36):
inspired you to go into I guessthat makes sense because Major Heally and Jasure
Nelson were NASA scientists. That's prettycool. I like that. Did you
want to find a genie while youwere out there too, or it was
just a science I did. Iactually fell in love with Barbara Eden,
and I didn't. And I moveddown to Cocoa Beach, Florida, where
they, you know, had thefilm location there, and and I got
(03:00):
into NASA, so we learned somethingnew about Tommy. I like that.
But again, Barbara Eden, sheinspires most men to do almost anything.
Anyway. She's a fine actress andjust a wonderful genie. You know.
I love the show. It wasone of my favorites growing up. So
(03:23):
yeah, it's a funny side ofthe how I got into the NASA program.
But these guys had hair, allof them, well, I mean
the younger guys of course, andLarry Hagman people like that. However,
what inspired you to study hair loss? Ultimately, that's a great question.
So the first project I got assignedon the NASA Space Shuttle was the Thermal
(03:46):
Protection System. That's all the tilesthat you see at the bottom of each
Space Shuttle, and there's about twentyfive thousand thermal protection tiles that protect the
orbiter from re entry after a mission. And the problem is is that the
order, especially at the leading edgeof it, gets really hot, like
(04:10):
up to three thousand degrees celsius.Since it gets really really you know,
there's a lot of friction there.So all those tiles had to be in
perfect laminar flow when you come in. Unfortunately, everything was done by hand.
Twenty five thousand tiles rearranged itself afterevery mission. So I came up
(04:35):
with an idea of why don't wedo this instead of by hand the way
they were doing it, and ittook like five to six weeks, why
don't we do a laser and justdo a surface scan with a laser and
get the step in the gap measurement. So it's just like a tiel in
(04:57):
your bathroom or you know, orin your house if there's a small step
you you know, stub your toeon it for some reason. Well,
on a space shuttle, if there'sa step that high on a tile,
it would explode the space shuttle,just like it did in Columbia. That's
(05:18):
definitely not good, I'll tell youthat absolutely. And that got you into
hair loss. Well, so asI was developing the you know, the
solution for that problem. One ofthe things I used, and I got
to be really good at it,was lasers, and so for ten years
(05:40):
I developed all kinds of lasers.After that, the thermal protection was the
first one. Then I got intoan orbiter mating with lasers and other things,
and one day I had come upwith a new type of laser which
was a low power and it's calledald laser, so it doesn't heat up.
(06:00):
Most people think that lasers heat oryou know, are heat based,
right, you cauterize tissue or youdo something like that, and it's quite
hot. But no, this laserthat I come up with was actually a
very cold laser required very little currentto be able to drive it. So
(06:20):
I was wondering what kind of applicationcould use a lot of lasers. And
I looked at it and I said, wow, there's a problem with I
was actually, to be quite honest, I was starting to lose my hair
right around the same time. SoI built a little prototype with these new
(06:42):
lasers and lo and behold, youknow, it started working. Because one
other entry port was that I hadfound a in a way I found hair
loss is because not just because myhair, but I found a a clinical
paper that was written in nineteen sixtyfive by doctor Andre Mester. He had
(07:08):
just received a new laser back innineteen sixty five and he wanted to test
what a laser was. So hetested the laser in his laboratory and got
like fifty mice and shaved off theback of each of the mice's hair and
applied the laser on these little mice. And he found after several weeks that
(07:30):
all these mice that were applied laserlight regrew their hair, but the ones
that didn't get the laser light didn'tgrow their hair as fast. So he
asked this technician, Hey, whywhat's going on here? Why isn't this
laser burning them like we were tryingto experiment with And the guy, the
technician that he had at his hospitalsaid, oh, I'm sorry, sir,
(07:55):
but we mistakenly lowered the power solittle to the watts were at five
watts and that's why we're you're notburning the backs of these mice. And
he's found that very good. Yeah, I wouldn't like the idea of burning
those poor mice, especially when they'reYeah, that was not a good idea.
(08:18):
He wrote it. He wrote apaper and I found the paper very
deep inside some literature, and that'show I got the idea. So you
tried this on yourself, you're saying, right, yep, I did same
wavelength, same everything. I tryto replicate everything that doctor Andre Mester did.
And yeah, that's how it cameup with technology. So you are
(08:41):
the size Spurling of the twenty twenties. Remember that guy from the Hair Club
for Men. He said, II like the Hair Club for men.
Not only a president, I'm alsoa client. Yes, I got to
meet him, passed away. Hewas very interesting. He was a Channel
nine. Main statement. I waswatching the met Games. Channel nine.
Of course for those not out notin the New York metro area, was
(09:01):
the wr the station out of NewJersey aired met Games back when I was
younger. Now it's very interesting,gentleman. He just recently passed away,
bed very what do you call it? A vibrant guy. But with me,
and again the book is grow ItBack. How laser phototherapy stops hair
(09:22):
loss and regrows your hair. Myguest to mean Hamid is the writer and
the scientists behind this idea. Ifind your laser phototherapy quite interesting, but
before reading the book, I wasquite skeptical, and you can understand because
I'm sure, Well, let's putit this way. I have some thinning
hair and have tried a bunch oftreatments. I don't think I should say
(09:43):
which ones they were on air,but they really they either didn't work for
me or I found it'd have tomaybe keep running that product or using that
product for the rest of my life, and I didn't really feel like it.
So that made me eventually think I'dprobably went up going all cube ball
sometime in the future. Well,I mean, it's you're facing the same
(10:03):
issues that most people have right nowbecause there's only two FDA cleared solutions for
hair loss. That's before I introducedthe laser phototherapy, it was only monoxidel
and finessterride. Those two are theonly FDA cleared solutions for hair loss.
So after after I started introducing laserphototherapy and got that through the FDA cleared
(10:28):
system, then that's when now wehave three solutions. So that's that's I
decided to write a book like what'sthe difference between all of these three solutions?
Right? And now you do thatin the book. You explain everything
throughout the entire reading experience, ifyou will. The idea is your laser
(10:52):
phototherapy could change the future of hairloss treatments, and then that's good.
We have three of them now.And you also discussed something called theodome inside
the book. Now, I didread it, but it's very prominent there,
not just superficial notes. You reallygo in depth. I would like
people to read this book, butcan you give your listeners maybe a tease
(11:15):
a little bit of what they mightsee a bount theodome and the process.
Yes, absolutely, since we arebased here in Silicon Valley and I did
grow my own lasers from scratch here. What I did is I created a
helmet type device that has about eightylasers inside this helmet and it's completely automated.
(11:41):
And the reason why I created thiscompany. It's called Theradom. What
it does is that it really targetsmale and female pattern hair loss, which
is called energenic alopecia. And sothis is the this is the only in
first device that was cleared by theFDA to stop hair loss and to regrow
(12:07):
your hair. You mentioned something veryimportant here and a lot of women don't
talk about it. But hair lossdoes affect some and it's like it's like
when men don't understand or don't knowthat breast cancer can happen to them too.
Women aren't often talked about when itcomes to hair loss. That's primarily,
at least in public, it's amale problem. Yes, what a
(12:31):
lot of people don't know is thatonly five percent of men that have hair
loss or thinning do something about it, whereas one hundred percent of women that
have any signs of hair loss orthinning will do something about it. That's
why you don't see very many womenout there, like they don't get as
(12:52):
bad as women where they have slickball or thinning. Women can cover it
up much much better with you know, all kinds of tools out there for
thickening and even some as far aswigs and extensions and so on, and
so they covered a much better.But over sixty percent of our customers are
(13:18):
women. Interesting, I'm here.It's talking with the author of the book
Grow It Back, How laser therapystops hair loss and regrows your hair.
You're listening to book Spectrum. Myguest is to Mean Hamad, a NASA
scientist who has found an interesting wayto grow back one's hair. Let's before
we get into this, I wantto talk a little more about the process
(13:39):
and what you've found out and whatpeople will find in the book. But
as we also discuss, people canbe understandably skeptical about anything that pertains to
hair loss. Keep in mind thereare those proverbial snake oil salesmen pedaling those
hair regrowth ads or things like thatthat aren't approved by the FDA. There's
so many of them, and Isuppose the gypsies, tramps and thieves.
(14:03):
Grandfather from the Sheriff's Song sold thesame thing. You know, doctor Good.
You remember that. Yeah, ifit can look doctor Good can cure
anything. It says good right onthe label. Okay. So aside from
that, a lot of other snakeoil savesmen are around. There so other
reasons why people are afraid of tryinga new hair restoration method like this,
like LPT okay, has to dowith what people hear from others, and
(14:28):
many being myths. You at leastgo into this book not only to talk
about the process and what it takesand how you got to it, how
you learned about it, and howyou devised it. Which relieves a lot
of other people. But there arepeople who are going to ask questions and
say, hey, I heard this, this or this about it. You
list the loads of myths and howto debunk them and why they aren't true.
(14:50):
Again, people will read them inthe book. Can you give us
maybe one or two of the mostprevalent myths that you've been or you've been
hearing about laser phototherapy that's circulated backto you somehow and you can just spell
right now. Yeah, absolutely.One of the ones that is that any
kind of light can Let's say wetalk about laser phototherapy, but some people
(15:16):
think that any kind of light willgrow your hair. I mean, you
can't stand underneath the sun and expectget a suntan and you will also get
your hair back as well. Sofortunately it takes one kind of light.
It's without getting into the technical aspectof it, well, it's a wavelength.
It's all based on the wavelength ofthe light. That's one that we
(15:39):
talk about. And then you know, there's other contraptions out there like castor
oil and other kind of things thatsupposed to work, and nothing like that
works. Before I even read,before I even wrote the book, I
read There was twenty eight books sincethe nineteen fifties that have been written by
(16:02):
multiple authors about hair loss and hairgrowth, and I read all of them.
And so after reading all twenty eightbooks, I found out that all
of them, all of them,all the books, none of them had
a solution for hair growth. Andso I had to make sure that this
(16:23):
book had to be perfectly white,with all the myths taken care of,
and every sentence in there is backedup by a bibliography and references. Oh
it's good. It's always good tohave those footnotes and references, so people
will say, hey, he didn'tjust say this even though you were a
NASA scientist. Look, there's abig difference between science and the science.
(16:45):
So let's get into this. Howdoes LPT, specifically theodom different from other
hair loss treatments? And again,there have been plenty over the years we
went. You touched on it alittle bit beforehand. I just want to
hear a little more, want ourlisteners to learn a little more, so
they want to open up the bookand say, hey, this is really
something I'd like to take a lookat it at the very least, And
(17:07):
keep in mind, I didn't realizeI just can't put a flesh lid on
my head and grow my hair back. So this is good. This is
a very big learning experience for me. Okay, yes, well, you
know if you learn the electromagnetic field. So for example, if you look
at wavelet color, right, thecolor is a form of wavelength, and
(17:27):
you can see that when you lookat a rainbow. When you look at
a rainbow, you have the wholecolor spectrum all the way from violet and
going to the right, blue andgreen and yellow and finally red. So
each one of those colors has apurpose. But more importantly, every wavelength
(17:49):
has a purpose in this world.For example, just like well we're listening
on a radio station. If you'relistening to ninety eight point five megahertz on
your radio station, well, thatis a specific wavelength frequency that is tuned
into your brain, and that's whatgets interpreted into your brain. Well,
(18:10):
every if you're in the wrong channel, if you're in the wrong chan,
you won't be able to hear thatstation. Same type of deal with the
wavelength of anything really that's emitting.So six hundred and eighty nanometers is the
only wavelength that stops hair loss andREGOs hair. So if you're in the
(18:30):
wrong channel, you know, ifyou're let's say you tune into ninety nine
point six, well you're not goingto hear that radio station because it's the
wrong station. Same thing like whenyou're microwaving. You know, a glass
of water in a microwave, ifyou got if you're using the wrong microwave
wavelength, you're not going to beable to heat up that water. It's
(18:52):
the same thing. Everything has areason. So the most important is the
wavelength. Then the second is thedosage or the type of laser medium,
which is, as you said,it's not going to be a flashlight.
It has to be a laser.And I'm not one to sit here and
just put something on my head andhope it works out. You really go
(19:15):
in depth and you explain to people. You explain to people from a scientist's
point of view how this kind ofthing works. But you also don't treat
people like they're idiots. In thebook too, you tell them, hey,
I understand that you're going to beskeptical about this. I understand that
you've tried so many other things,and I know you know that I have
(19:36):
a background here and I can giveyou a bunch of trade talk and maybe
baffle you into doing this. Thepoint is you don't do that. And
I like the idea that you alsosay, Hey, many people ask me
these questions. I'm going to answerthem for you ahead of time. What
would you like your readers to takeaway most from actually reading the book,
aside from hey, LPT is great. Well, you know, when you
(19:59):
look at laser phototherapy, it's sucha new technology, and I want to
make sure that people understand that ittakes it takes about ten years or so
for a technology to come to market, right, so we're we're in its
infancy right now, trying to makepeople where trying to stand on top of
the mountain and say, look,there's there's another way that you don't have
(20:22):
to take drugs, you don't haveto take put stuff on your head.
There's a new way of doing it, and this is this is light is
the new way of stimulating the mitochondria. And that's all really I want you
to learn from this book is thatgive it a chance, because this is
probably the most exciting thing. Andin the end chapter, what I talk
(20:45):
about in one of my chapters thatall the applications not only for hair,
but for cognitive. We just dida study with Harvard where we applied light
to dementia and traumatic brain injury patientsand that improved their cognitive ability after seven
(21:08):
weeks. So there's so many applicationsfor light that this is going to be
I think the future and hair lossand hair Growth is probably the first one
that's going to be read a littlebit asset. This is a very serious
look and a very thoughtful look.This book is grow grow it Back at
a very common but really frustrating situationfor a lot of men and women.
(21:33):
Tamim Hamid, thank you for joiningme here on book Spectrum once again.
The title is grow It Back byTammim Hamid. Where can our listeners find
more about you? Well, Chris, we can find it on grow it
back dot com. That's grow itbackdot com and that's where you can download
the ebook or print out the printedversion of our books. That's absolutely fantastic.
(21:56):
You can get the book on theinternet and you can learn more about
laser phototherapy. And of course myguest tell meim Hahmid. Again, the
book is titled growing Back. I'myour host, Chris Cordiny. Thank you
Tamim for joining us, and thankyou for listening to book Spantram. Keep
those pages turning.
Welcome to book Spntrum. I'm yourhost, Chris Cordany. This is where
we talk with not usually seasoned writers, but authors of books by people with
varying occupations across the spectrum. Withme now is a scientist from NASA.
However, we're not going to betalking about super nova's planets or space flight.
We're going to discuss something that hitsa little closer to home. How
(00:29):
about that hair loss, at leastfor many of us. Tamin Hamid has
written a rather intriguing book, GrowIt Back. That's right, it's called
grow It Back. That sounds intriguing. The full title, grow It Back
How laser phototherapy stops hair loss andregrows your hair naturally. My curiosity was
(00:49):
rather piqued. Thus I invited Tamiman. Welcome to book Spectrum. Tamim Hamid,
Good morning, Chris. Thank youso much for having me. I'm
glad I have you here because I'venever really talked about this subject with anybody
except for people who tell me myhair isthentic. That's a different story.
But I keep talking to people whoreally don't know much except for what they
(01:10):
read. Now I have you.You're a NASA scientist, so you will
know from whence these things come from. But before you tell us what actually
inspired you to study hair loss,please tell our audience a bit about yourself,
maybe how you got interested in science. And some of you work for
NASA, if you don't have tokill me after telling me that is absolutely
(01:30):
now, thanks for the question.Yes, by the way, it's former
NASA scientists. But I was therefor ten years at Kennedy Space Center.
But yeah, I've always been interestedin space and technology. But I came
from really a country that had absolutelyjust one radio and that was it,
(01:53):
right at one radio station, NoTV, know nothing. And as I
progressed through life time, I movedto France and then backed and then a
little bit more, a little bitmore technology. Then all of a sudden,
that's when I got introduced to theUnited States. When I was right
(02:15):
I'm seventeen years old. I sawamazing technology here in America, and I
got interested in anybody could do anythingin America. So I was really interested,
and I saw a TV show calledI Dream Genie, and that's where
I would fell in love with thespace program. I Dream of Genie then
(02:36):
inspired you to go into I guessthat makes sense because Major Heally and Jasure
Nelson were NASA scientists. That's prettycool. I like that. Did you
want to find a genie while youwere out there too, or it was
just a science I did. Iactually fell in love with Barbara Eden,
and I didn't. And I moveddown to Cocoa Beach, Florida, where
they, you know, had thefilm location there, and and I got
(03:00):
into NASA, so we learned somethingnew about Tommy. I like that.
But again, Barbara Eden, sheinspires most men to do almost anything.
Anyway. She's a fine actress andjust a wonderful genie. You know.
I love the show. It wasone of my favorites growing up. So
(03:23):
yeah, it's a funny side ofthe how I got into the NASA program.
But these guys had hair, allof them, well, I mean
the younger guys of course, andLarry Hagman people like that. However,
what inspired you to study hair loss? Ultimately, that's a great question.
So the first project I got assignedon the NASA Space Shuttle was the Thermal
(03:46):
Protection System. That's all the tilesthat you see at the bottom of each
Space Shuttle, and there's about twentyfive thousand thermal protection tiles that protect the
orbiter from re entry after a mission. And the problem is is that the
order, especially at the leading edgeof it, gets really hot, like
(04:10):
up to three thousand degrees celsius.Since it gets really really you know,
there's a lot of friction there.So all those tiles had to be in
perfect laminar flow when you come in. Unfortunately, everything was done by hand.
Twenty five thousand tiles rearranged itself afterevery mission. So I came up
(04:35):
with an idea of why don't wedo this instead of by hand the way
they were doing it, and ittook like five to six weeks, why
don't we do a laser and justdo a surface scan with a laser and
get the step in the gap measurement. So it's just like a tiel in
(04:57):
your bathroom or you know, orin your house if there's a small step
you you know, stub your toeon it for some reason. Well,
on a space shuttle, if there'sa step that high on a tile,
it would explode the space shuttle,just like it did in Columbia. That's
(05:18):
definitely not good, I'll tell youthat absolutely. And that got you into
hair loss. Well, so asI was developing the you know, the
solution for that problem. One ofthe things I used, and I got
to be really good at it,was lasers, and so for ten years
(05:40):
I developed all kinds of lasers.After that, the thermal protection was the
first one. Then I got intoan orbiter mating with lasers and other things,
and one day I had come upwith a new type of laser which
was a low power and it's calledald laser, so it doesn't heat up.
(06:00):
Most people think that lasers heat oryou know, are heat based,
right, you cauterize tissue or youdo something like that, and it's quite
hot. But no, this laserthat I come up with was actually a
very cold laser required very little currentto be able to drive it. So
(06:20):
I was wondering what kind of applicationcould use a lot of lasers. And
I looked at it and I said, wow, there's a problem with I
was actually, to be quite honest, I was starting to lose my hair
right around the same time. SoI built a little prototype with these new
(06:42):
lasers and lo and behold, youknow, it started working. Because one
other entry port was that I hadfound a in a way I found hair
loss is because not just because myhair, but I found a a clinical
paper that was written in nineteen sixtyfive by doctor Andre Mester. He had
(07:08):
just received a new laser back innineteen sixty five and he wanted to test
what a laser was. So hetested the laser in his laboratory and got
like fifty mice and shaved off theback of each of the mice's hair and
applied the laser on these little mice. And he found after several weeks that
(07:30):
all these mice that were applied laserlight regrew their hair, but the ones
that didn't get the laser light didn'tgrow their hair as fast. So he
asked this technician, Hey, whywhat's going on here? Why isn't this
laser burning them like we were tryingto experiment with And the guy, the
technician that he had at his hospitalsaid, oh, I'm sorry, sir,
(07:55):
but we mistakenly lowered the power solittle to the watts were at five
watts and that's why we're you're notburning the backs of these mice. And
he's found that very good. Yeah, I wouldn't like the idea of burning
those poor mice, especially when they'reYeah, that was not a good idea.
(08:18):
He wrote it. He wrote apaper and I found the paper very
deep inside some literature, and that'show I got the idea. So you
tried this on yourself, you're saying, right, yep, I did same
wavelength, same everything. I tryto replicate everything that doctor Andre Mester did.
And yeah, that's how it cameup with technology. So you are
(08:41):
the size Spurling of the twenty twenties. Remember that guy from the Hair Club
for Men. He said, II like the Hair Club for men.
Not only a president, I'm alsoa client. Yes, I got to
meet him, passed away. Hewas very interesting. He was a Channel
nine. Main statement. I waswatching the met Games. Channel nine.
Of course for those not out notin the New York metro area, was
(09:01):
the wr the station out of NewJersey aired met Games back when I was
younger. Now it's very interesting,gentleman. He just recently passed away,
bed very what do you call it? A vibrant guy. But with me,
and again the book is grow ItBack. How laser phototherapy stops hair
(09:22):
loss and regrows your hair. Myguest to mean Hamid is the writer and
the scientists behind this idea. Ifind your laser phototherapy quite interesting, but
before reading the book, I wasquite skeptical, and you can understand because
I'm sure, Well, let's putit this way. I have some thinning
hair and have tried a bunch oftreatments. I don't think I should say
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which ones they were on air,but they really they either didn't work for
me or I found it'd have tomaybe keep running that product or using that
product for the rest of my life, and I didn't really feel like it.
So that made me eventually think I'dprobably went up going all cube ball
sometime in the future. Well,I mean, it's you're facing the same
(10:03):
issues that most people have right nowbecause there's only two FDA cleared solutions for
hair loss. That's before I introducedthe laser phototherapy, it was only monoxidel
and finessterride. Those two are theonly FDA cleared solutions for hair loss.
So after after I started introducing laserphototherapy and got that through the FDA cleared
(10:28):
system, then that's when now wehave three solutions. So that's that's I
decided to write a book like what'sthe difference between all of these three solutions?
Right? And now you do thatin the book. You explain everything
throughout the entire reading experience, ifyou will. The idea is your laser
(10:52):
phototherapy could change the future of hairloss treatments, and then that's good.
We have three of them now.And you also discussed something called theodome inside
the book. Now, I didread it, but it's very prominent there,
not just superficial notes. You reallygo in depth. I would like
people to read this book, butcan you give your listeners maybe a tease
(11:15):
a little bit of what they mightsee a bount theodome and the process.
Yes, absolutely, since we arebased here in Silicon Valley and I did
grow my own lasers from scratch here. What I did is I created a
helmet type device that has about eightylasers inside this helmet and it's completely automated.
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And the reason why I created thiscompany. It's called Theradom. What
it does is that it really targetsmale and female pattern hair loss, which
is called energenic alopecia. And sothis is the this is the only in
first device that was cleared by theFDA to stop hair loss and to regrow
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your hair. You mentioned something veryimportant here and a lot of women don't
talk about it. But hair lossdoes affect some and it's like it's like
when men don't understand or don't knowthat breast cancer can happen to them too.
Women aren't often talked about when itcomes to hair loss. That's primarily,
at least in public, it's amale problem. Yes, what a
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lot of people don't know is thatonly five percent of men that have hair
loss or thinning do something about it, whereas one hundred percent of women that
have any signs of hair loss orthinning will do something about it. That's
why you don't see very many womenout there, like they don't get as
(12:52):
bad as women where they have slickball or thinning. Women can cover it
up much much better with you know, all kinds of tools out there for
thickening and even some as far aswigs and extensions and so on, and
so they covered a much better.But over sixty percent of our customers are
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women. Interesting, I'm here.It's talking with the author of the book
Grow It Back, How laser therapystops hair loss and regrows your hair.
You're listening to book Spectrum. Myguest is to Mean Hamad, a NASA
scientist who has found an interesting wayto grow back one's hair. Let's before
we get into this, I wantto talk a little more about the process
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and what you've found out and whatpeople will find in the book. But
as we also discuss, people canbe understandably skeptical about anything that pertains to
hair loss. Keep in mind thereare those proverbial snake oil salesmen pedaling those
hair regrowth ads or things like thatthat aren't approved by the FDA. There's
so many of them, and Isuppose the gypsies, tramps and thieves.
(14:03):
Grandfather from the Sheriff's Song sold thesame thing. You know, doctor Good.
You remember that. Yeah, ifit can look doctor Good can cure
anything. It says good right onthe label. Okay. So aside from
that, a lot of other snakeoil savesmen are around. There so other
reasons why people are afraid of tryinga new hair restoration method like this,
like LPT okay, has to dowith what people hear from others, and
(14:28):
many being myths. You at leastgo into this book not only to talk
about the process and what it takesand how you got to it, how
you learned about it, and howyou devised it. Which relieves a lot
of other people. But there arepeople who are going to ask questions and
say, hey, I heard this, this or this about it. You
list the loads of myths and howto debunk them and why they aren't true.
(14:50):
Again, people will read them inthe book. Can you give us
maybe one or two of the mostprevalent myths that you've been or you've been
hearing about laser phototherapy that's circulated backto you somehow and you can just spell
right now. Yeah, absolutely.One of the ones that is that any
kind of light can Let's say wetalk about laser phototherapy, but some people
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think that any kind of light willgrow your hair. I mean, you
can't stand underneath the sun and expectget a suntan and you will also get
your hair back as well. Sofortunately it takes one kind of light.
It's without getting into the technical aspectof it, well, it's a wavelength.
It's all based on the wavelength ofthe light. That's one that we
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talk about. And then you know, there's other contraptions out there like castor
oil and other kind of things thatsupposed to work, and nothing like that
works. Before I even read,before I even wrote the book, I
read There was twenty eight books sincethe nineteen fifties that have been written by
(16:02):
multiple authors about hair loss and hairgrowth, and I read all of them.
And so after reading all twenty eightbooks, I found out that all
of them, all of them,all the books, none of them had
a solution for hair growth. Andso I had to make sure that this
(16:23):
book had to be perfectly white,with all the myths taken care of,
and every sentence in there is backedup by a bibliography and references. Oh
it's good. It's always good tohave those footnotes and references, so people
will say, hey, he didn'tjust say this even though you were a
NASA scientist. Look, there's abig difference between science and the science.
(16:45):
So let's get into this. Howdoes LPT, specifically theodom different from other
hair loss treatments? And again,there have been plenty over the years we
went. You touched on it alittle bit beforehand. I just want to
hear a little more, want ourlisteners to learn a little more, so
they want to open up the bookand say, hey, this is really
something I'd like to take a lookat it at the very least, And
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keep in mind, I didn't realizeI just can't put a flesh lid on
my head and grow my hair back. So this is good. This is
a very big learning experience for me. Okay, yes, well, you
know if you learn the electromagnetic field. So for example, if you look
at wavelet color, right, thecolor is a form of wavelength, and
(17:27):
you can see that when you lookat a rainbow. When you look at
a rainbow, you have the wholecolor spectrum all the way from violet and
going to the right, blue andgreen and yellow and finally red. So
each one of those colors has apurpose. But more importantly, every wavelength
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has a purpose in this world.For example, just like well we're listening
on a radio station. If you'relistening to ninety eight point five megahertz on
your radio station, well, thatis a specific wavelength frequency that is tuned
into your brain, and that's whatgets interpreted into your brain. Well,
(18:10):
every if you're in the wrong channel, if you're in the wrong chan,
you won't be able to hear thatstation. Same type of deal with the
wavelength of anything really that's emitting.So six hundred and eighty nanometers is the
only wavelength that stops hair loss andREGOs hair. So if you're in the
(18:30):
wrong channel, you know, ifyou're let's say you tune into ninety nine
point six, well you're not goingto hear that radio station because it's the
wrong station. Same thing like whenyou're microwaving. You know, a glass
of water in a microwave, ifyou got if you're using the wrong microwave
wavelength, you're not going to beable to heat up that water. It's
(18:52):
the same thing. Everything has areason. So the most important is the
wavelength. Then the second is thedosage or the type of laser medium,
which is, as you said,it's not going to be a flashlight.
It has to be a laser.And I'm not one to sit here and
just put something on my head andhope it works out. You really go
(19:15):
in depth and you explain to people. You explain to people from a scientist's
point of view how this kind ofthing works. But you also don't treat
people like they're idiots. In thebook too, you tell them, hey,
I understand that you're going to beskeptical about this. I understand that
you've tried so many other things,and I know you know that I have
(19:36):
a background here and I can giveyou a bunch of trade talk and maybe
baffle you into doing this. Thepoint is you don't do that. And
I like the idea that you alsosay, Hey, many people ask me
these questions. I'm going to answerthem for you ahead of time. What
would you like your readers to takeaway most from actually reading the book,
aside from hey, LPT is great. Well, you know, when you
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look at laser phototherapy, it's sucha new technology, and I want to
make sure that people understand that ittakes it takes about ten years or so
for a technology to come to market, right, so we're we're in its
infancy right now, trying to makepeople where trying to stand on top of
the mountain and say, look,there's there's another way that you don't have
(20:22):
to take drugs, you don't haveto take put stuff on your head.
There's a new way of doing it, and this is this is light is
the new way of stimulating the mitochondria. And that's all really I want you
to learn from this book is thatgive it a chance, because this is
probably the most exciting thing. Andin the end chapter, what I talk
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about in one of my chapters thatall the applications not only for hair,
but for cognitive. We just dida study with Harvard where we applied light
to dementia and traumatic brain injury patientsand that improved their cognitive ability after seven
(21:08):
weeks. So there's so many applicationsfor light that this is going to be
I think the future and hair lossand hair Growth is probably the first one
that's going to be read a littlebit asset. This is a very serious
look and a very thoughtful look.This book is grow grow it Back at
a very common but really frustrating situationfor a lot of men and women.
(21:33):
Tamim Hamid, thank you for joiningme here on book Spectrum once again.
The title is grow It Back byTammim Hamid. Where can our listeners find
more about you? Well, Chris, we can find it on grow it
back dot com. That's grow itbackdot com and that's where you can download
the ebook or print out the printedversion of our books. That's absolutely fantastic.
(21:56):
You can get the book on theinternet and you can learn more about
laser phototherapy. And of course myguest tell meim Hahmid. Again, the
book is titled growing Back. I'myour host, Chris Cordiny. Thank you
Tamim for joining us, and thankyou for listening to book Spantram. Keep
those pages turning.
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