March 15, 2025 • 28 mins
Kristin Casey wrote about her wild and interesting life with her previous book, Rock Monster: My Life with Joe Walsh, but follows up with Casey Dancer: A Memoir About Dating, Stripping, and a Little Hot Yoga , where she reveals more about herself beyond life in the proverbial fast lane.Many people who watch television and read tabloids thing of celebrity girlfriends as one-dimensional arm candy and dancers as paid live window dressing, but rarely see there are real human beings underneath the surface of that their eyes show them.
Ms. Casey offers a look at the real person beyond a pretty face in Casey Dancer. She shows the reader more of her own life, thoughts and inner conflict with herself within what could be considered a follow-up to her first book as much as a sequel to her life.
Kristin goes in-depth about her recovery, dating philosophy, professional struggles, personal vulnerabilities and how they all helped her grow, prosper as well as flourish.
: Kristin is a recovered alcoholic and addict who’s rigorously inventoried her every resentment and relinquished ninety percent of them. She’s survived clinical depression, numerous addictions, the panhandle of Texas, and seventeen years of Catholicism. Her first book, Rock Monster: My Life with Joe Walsh, documents a tumultuous six-year relationship with rock legend and Eagles guitarist Joe Walsh, their drug-fueled train-wreck breakup, and her ensuing suicidal spiral. Her writing has appeared in The Foliate Oak Literary Magazine, The Nervous Breakdown, Please Kill Me, $pread, The Fix, and more. Her expertise resides in addiction, dependency, intimacy, and sexuality, with particular knowledge of the commercial sex industry. She resides in Austin, Texas, where she worked as a certified sexuality counselor, intimacy coach, and IPSA-trained Surrogate Partner. Recently retired, Kristin is now a full-time author of both memoirs and screenplays. Visit her website at www.KristinCasey.com
Ms. Casey offers a look at the real person beyond a pretty face in Casey Dancer. She shows the reader more of her own life, thoughts and inner conflict with herself within what could be considered a follow-up to her first book as much as a sequel to her life.
Kristin goes in-depth about her recovery, dating philosophy, professional struggles, personal vulnerabilities and how they all helped her grow, prosper as well as flourish.
: Kristin is a recovered alcoholic and addict who’s rigorously inventoried her every resentment and relinquished ninety percent of them. She’s survived clinical depression, numerous addictions, the panhandle of Texas, and seventeen years of Catholicism. Her first book, Rock Monster: My Life with Joe Walsh, documents a tumultuous six-year relationship with rock legend and Eagles guitarist Joe Walsh, their drug-fueled train-wreck breakup, and her ensuing suicidal spiral. Her writing has appeared in The Foliate Oak Literary Magazine, The Nervous Breakdown, Please Kill Me, $pread, The Fix, and more. Her expertise resides in addiction, dependency, intimacy, and sexuality, with particular knowledge of the commercial sex industry. She resides in Austin, Texas, where she worked as a certified sexuality counselor, intimacy coach, and IPSA-trained Surrogate Partner. Recently retired, Kristin is now a full-time author of both memoirs and screenplays. Visit her website at www.KristinCasey.com
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to book Spenctrum. I'm your host, Chris Cordiny. This
is the show where we interview authors of books who
are not always seasoned writers. Sometimes they are, but generally
people from other occupations across the spectrum. With me on
book Spectrum, as some may know, will be Kristin Casey.
In the Pansts, she's wrote a memoir about her time
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when she was with Joe Walsh. We see girlfriends of
movies and rock stars in the tabloids all the time,
or on page six of the New York Post or
wherever else, and perhaps many only really know them through
what they've seen or what's some gossip columnists selects to
writer decides to write, these are human beings behind the
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glamour and the headlines. There really are, and this is
proven in life, and it's also proven in this Casey's book,
Casey Dancer, a memoir about dating, stripping, and a little
hot yoga. You got to learn about that hot yoga thing.
Apparently since then a lot has happened with her as
she worked with several businesses from real estate to sex, working, dancing,
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and of course, screenplays. She's written a lot of screenplays.
We're going to talk about all of this and beyond
the work life as well. Kristin chronicles her relationships and
personal life. Welcome to the book spectrum.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Kristin, Casey, Hi Chris, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Thank you for being here. Kristin. You chronicle your story
and Casey dancer a bit differently than most. I appreciate
this approach. It's a ranged in three sections. Why did
you do it that way?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Why did I do you know? It's funny that you ask.
I did the book in three sections, not necessarily intentionally.
I wrote the book and then during my first edit,
I realized that these concepts of healthy dating or life
skills that contribute to healthy dating and healthy relationships being authenticity, vulnerability,
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and boundary setting. I realized as I was going through
the book for the first time editing it, that I
had kind of laid them out in three separate sections,
and I thought it really helped delineate my progression through
my recovery and how I was slowly learning how to
number one be more authentic or sorry, number one actually
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be more vulnerable, approach relationships and dating with an open
heart and less afraid of rejection or certainly accepting the
fact that I might get rejected and that it didn't
mean that I was necessarily a worthless person. Right. You
have to be vulnerable in order to date and form
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healthy friendships and relationships, and so vulnerability was the first
thing I learned. And then as I'm going through the book,
I realized, I'm also really in the middle section. When
I was in that relationship, my first relationship since the
one I was in with Joe Walsh, which is so unhealthy,
I was learning to be authentic and to really state
my needs and communicate and cooperate and be less of
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a peace pleaser, and that seemed very clear. And then
towards the end of the book, I really start focusing
on boundary settings, which I call the PhD of life skills.
And so I didn't really do it on purpose. I
was just editing the book and I realized, Oh, this
was my progression through these through learning these through life skills,
and so I thought, I'm going to go ahead and
break the book down into those three parts and label them.
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That's how that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, Kristin a lot of the book centers around your
successes and struggles both at work and in your personal life,
which includes the dating, and of course of family or
anything else, and personal thoughts, being vulnerable and trying to
be tough at the same time, all intertwined. What is
a sequel to your first book for our listeners, What
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was the rock star life like when you were with
Joe Walsh and how did you first adjust to life
after that breakup?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Well, I would tell you the rock star life is
in many ways exactly what most people think it is,
or hope it is, or expect it is. It was
just super fun. It was glamorous, it was exciting, it
was you know, well, I mean, on the one hand,
I had fallen in love with the love of my life,
or at that time, the love of my life, and
it really was kind of a fairy tale. I mean
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it was I just got the sense that Joe and
I were faded to be together, that he was the
man I was meant to marry, and so the fact
that he was a rock star was sort of icing
on the cake. You know, it's wonderful to be in love, obviously,
but when the man you fall in love with has
this really exciting life and all of his friends are celebrities,
and you're traveling all over the world, and you're doing
super fun things, and you're backstage and you're meeting rock
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stars and you're treated like a princess. I mean, it's
as fun as you would expect. The drugs and alcohol
addictions that Joe and I had made it also not
just the best of times, but you know, not to
be cliche, but the worst of times. And so it
was that really classic sort of rock star life where
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it was fun and exciting and filled with celebrities and adventure. Sure,
and it was also just extremely painful and and traumatic,
emotionally traumatic and filled with uh, you know, everything from fighting,
horrible fighting to withdrawal and uh. Yeah, so it was
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the best and the worst. The second question you asked me,
what was that? How did I How did I bounce
back or recover?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Well, let's let's go with adjusting. Right after the breakup,
you're out of the rock star life in that respect.
You're not with uh uh Joe Walsh, you recently said,
was the love of your life. At the time, you
it's it's done, it's over, and you have to go
about doing something on your own, doing something yourself at
this point.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, So when Joe and I broke up, it was
really difficult for me, and I will call it actually traumatic.
It was probably the most traumatic event of my life.
And that's not just because I lost the love of
my life and I lost this exciting life that I had.
The main issue was the reason it was so traumatic
is because I had lost my identity. When I was
with Joe. I was twenty years old and he was
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forty when we met, and he had this very powerful
presence and this really big life, and I was just
learning who I was. I was just you know, figuring
out what I wanted out of life and what my
strengths were. And then I met Joe, and instead of
developing myself as a person and developing on those strengths
and pursuing my passions and developing myself as a writer
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or whatever it was that I wanted to do, which
you know, for me, was being a writer, instead of
doing all of that, I just thought, well, I'm just
going to have this identity as a rockstar's girlfriend. I'll
just be known for the rest of my life by
other people and myself as you know, the girlfriend of
this famous, iconic, talented, creative individual. So my entire identity
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rested on the image or identity of my partner, which
is an incredibly unhealthy place to put yourself. So when
we broke up and he's gone out of my life
and he's back with the Eagles and more famous than ever,
and richer than ever, bigger star than ever, I was.
I was a hole in the doughnut. I had no identity.
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I was on the edge of the abyss. I was
like a vacuum. If you don't develop your own identity,
and you base your identity on your partner, and your
partner leaves, then who are you? So I was really
thrown into just an emotional tail spin. And I spent
the next two years trying to drink myself to death.
Thankfully I failed at that, and I had this sort
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of awakening moment that I described in one of the
last chapters of Rock Monster, my first book, where I
had this sort of spiritual experience and I just realized,
I have two choices. I can continue drinking myself to death,
or I can make something out of my life. I
can develop myself as a person and find something I'm
passionate about and find a purpose in life and make
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something out of my life. And I knew early on,
pretty early on that I wanted to be a writer,
that that was really my greatest strength, or certainly one
of my one of my strengths, and so I slowly started.
I had a lot to learn as far as life skills, right,
I needed to learn how to be a dependable and
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productive person. I needed to learn how to earn an
income and put a roof over my head nuts when
I became a realtor. But I one of the reasons
I wanted to be a realtor and be self employed
was so that I could, Sorry, I lost my turn
of thought, what happens. One of the reasons I wanted
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to be One of the reasons I chose to become
a realtor is because I thought, well, I'll be self
employed so I can spend my free time writing, not
realizing that as a realtor, I was probably going to
be working seven days a week. But I would write,
you know, my short stories and my poetry, and I
worked on scripts and screenplays in the wee hours of
the night. And I eventually went back to stripping for
many reasons, but partly because real estate takes up seven
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days a week and stripping you can do three days
a week and make At the time, I was making
twice as much money working three days a week as
a stripper.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You think I could do that? I mean, maybe I could.
I don't know. I think as much a demand for
an old organizer to do stripping. Well, who knows. Maybe
there are a lot of your set in people like
me out there.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You never know. I tell you one of the ways
in this world it is easier to be a woman.
And I will say that. You know a lot of
women are constantly complaining about the patriarchy and and all
of this, and and that women have it so hard,
and in some ways women have it harder. In some
ways men have it harder. But one of the ways
women have it easier is that sex work is much
more available to us. Certainly, making good money at sex
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work is more available to women.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Than And the guys have to be perfectly fit, they
have to exercise all the time. I'm not up for that,
no way a woman.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You can be curvy. As a man, you got to
be shredded, you got to have the seat pack. And yeah,
they do.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Work in those seven days a week, like the realtors.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's right, absolutely, I mean I tell you I did.
I was a realtor for nine years and I was
a time relator for seven and God bless them. They
work at Saturdays and Sundays, and I think at the
time I probably worked from eight am to nine pm,
five or six days a week, easy, and then maybe
I'd work a half day that seventh day. It's to
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be a success. Yeah, it's a lot, I know.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Even even producing stuff, it takes a lot of work
because everybody wants something. It's a great thing. I love
doing what I do, but sometimes it runs into long hours.
But if you like what you do, and a lot
of people love real estate, I can't I can't begrudge
anybody whose sisters says I love real estate. It's their
whole thing. Like you said, it's a lot of the time,
it's their identity. And they love meeting people. They like
helping people find homes. And yes, I'm sure the money
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is very good in many areas too.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
In real estate. Money can be really good in real estate.
It was I was not working in that price range
where it was doing all that well for me. So
when I started stripping at thirty nine, and I was
doing it two or three days a week. In selling
real estate, like six days a week. Ripping definitely started
paying the bills much better from day one.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
With me is Kristin Casey. She's the author of Casey Dancer.
I do have to I have one question about I
want to reel back a little bit to that dating
Joe Walsh time because I didn't get to do your
first book. I understand at one point he had a
mansion and forgot the price and wasn't there, but they
tell him it was nice we with that mansion.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know, when Joe wrote that song Live' spin Good,
I think he wrote it partly as a joke, although
he was being serious, Like the funniest jokes are based
in reality, right, And the truth was he had before
I met him, when he was with the Eagles originally
before they got back together, he did very very well.
And yeah, he had at least one mansion. I'm quite
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sure when we got together he was living in a
Pennhouse in Westwood, and then after two or three years,
he bought me a beautiful home in Studio City, California,
with a gorgeous pool and a beautiful view. And yeah,
I wouldn't call it a mansion, but we did have
a lovely home.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Together. That sounds really nice. But back to the book though,
and you did talk about you becoming sober, and it
did happen after a while. You discussed that in great
length in Casey Dancer, especially toward the end, and very
notably use it as a barometer for your dating life.
And it was an interesting one altogether, that dating life.
So how did you juxtapose the two in the book?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
How did I juxtapose my recovery and my objectory? You know,
I tell you one of the greatest things that ever
happened to me was stumbling into the twelve steps, right,
and so the twelve steps that I used to get
covered basically represent twelve principles that are life skills. You know.
You're talking about honesty, for one thing, and accountability and restitution,
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you know, skills that are going to help you get
through every aspect of your life. And if you apply
a lot of that stuff to dating, which is I
think a lot of people would consider one of the
most important aspects the life. Certainly I did. I mean,
because when I got sober, what I wanted more than
anything was to fall in love and to have a
life mate, you know, and to have someone special in
my life someone who considered me special, and I had
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no idea how to do that. I had no idea
how to date in a healthy way, but I did
know how I would. I had just learned how to
live my life in a healthy ways. And the foundation
of those twelve principles really is honesty, not just being
honest with others, but being honest with yourself. And so
I started applying those principles to my dating life. And
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one of the ways, like here's a good example, I'll
say when when I was first starting to date and
I was learning how to be vulnerable, and that means
approaching these men that I was interested in with an
open heart. One of the tactics I would use, because
I was so afraid of rejection, is that I would
pretend to be so cool and aloof and I really
I was happy with something casual when a truth, I
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might really like this guy and want to be developed
something serious with them, but I was afraid to ski
him off. I was afraid that if he saw how
much I liked him, he'd get you know, uh, he'd
get scared off. So so I wouldn't be honest with him,
or even honest with myself and I'd convince him and
myself that I really just wanted something casual. You know,
There's just another way that I was sort of being
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dishonest with myself is I was I would date men
who are kind of unavailable, either emotionally unavailable, or maybe
they lived three states away, or maybe they were married
or had a girlfriend. You know, I was dating unavailable
men because it would be like a cushion protecting myself
against rejection. Because if a guy's not really available, how
much can he really reject you? Right? So, all of
these little tactics that people use when they're when they're
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refusing to be emotionally vulnerable, we do that to protect ourselves.
But if you're applying the principle of honesty to your life,
the principle that I lived through my that I learned
through my twelve Steps, then you have to say, you
know what, I'm not being honest with him, I'm not
being honest with myself. I am afraid of rejection. I
do want to develop something deeper, and I'm and I'm
going to be honest out that I'm going to accept
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the consequences if I scare them off. I scare them
off I'll go find somebody else. You know, you have
to have a little faith that you know there's someone
better for me, or someone someone else that I that
might be better for me. So all of these principles
behind the twelve Steps can be applied to every area
of your life, including dating, and so authenticity is another
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example of learning to be honest and communicative about your needs.
Boundary setting is a very important life skill that I
will say is important in the twelve step recovery for
alcoholics and addicts, but even more so in alan On,
which is another twelve step recovery program where you learn
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boundary setting. And that's alan On is where a lot
of people who are like friends and family and loved
ones of alcoholics and addicts will go to help learn
how to deal with the addicts and alcoholics in their life.
And so the principle what I'm trying to say is
that the principles of the twelve Steps can help you
in every area of your life. And for me in particular,
they helped me learn authenticity, vulnerability, and boundary setting in
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my dating trajectory, which you know, in recovery, it took
me a good ten years to learn how to date
in a way that was healthy enough that I could
actually have a boyfriend and a true relationship. So it
wasn't an overnight thing. You know, recovery is not an
overnight thing. And learning how to date in a healthy way,
if you've never done it before, that's not an overnight
thing either.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And then he wasn't easy for me back in the
day too. I mean back in high school when I
was trying to date, I learned that there was a
three year epidemic of every girl that I knew having headaches.
This must have been this whole thing, with every girl
a new and every girl in the entire school system
having headaches for three years. Something that happened.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Cocidence there, Chris, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know what must have been an epidemic, kind of
like COVID. I guess. Try to stand twenty feet apart
from me. But again that's another story for another day.
We're not talking about my dating experiences. We're talking about
you and the book Casey Dancer Kristin the book also
looks at your growth as a human, your dating experiences
and work roller coaster. And it was a work roller coaster.
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Let's not leave that out because that's part of what
built you are written in the book is both catalysts
and reasons depending on the instance to your growth as
a person. How did they help shape you through the
time again while you recovered and your transition to becoming
extremely successful in recent years.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Okay, so yes, I do. I would say that I
grew a lot through the course of this book. Right.
It covers about twelve years, but it kind of specifically
focuses on my late thirties and my early forties, And
one thing I learned through that time period is that
I would say the arc of my awareness through the
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course of the book is that in the beginning, I'm
looking for men to tell me how to feel about myself.
I'm looking for the men that I'm dating to make
me feel worthy, to make me feel worth something in life, right,
which I think a lot of people do, especially when
you're young. You know, teenagers do that. Well. When I
got sober at twenty nine, I kind of had a
little bit of the emotional maturity in some ways, especially
in as far as dating and romance. I had the
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emotional maturity of a teenager. I really needed other people
to tell me how to feel about myself and to
boost my self esteem. But through the course of my book,
and through the course of dating all those different men
and then having that one relationship, what I came to
learn was that it's not whether somebody loves you or
how many men want to date you that's going to
tell you what your value is as a woman or
as a person. It's really it really was more about
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Towards the end of the book, you can see that
I discover that I have these passions in life that
I really needed to fulfill. For example, writing was one
of them. And the more I wrote, and the more
successful I became with my writing, the more I developed
my self esteem and a sense of value and myself
a person. But also stripping was a passion of mine.
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Sex work was a passion of mine. And I know
that sounds a little crazy to some people, and I
use the term sex work very loosely. I don't I've
never really considered stripping sex work because you're not having
sex as a stripper, you're an erotic entertainer. But it
is classified, you know, by the government, and the irs
is the sex industry, right. And then my stripping did
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lead I've always been fascinated by sexuality and relationships and intimacy.
And you know, whether that is in the context of
romantic relationships or compensated relationships like Sugar Daddy Sugar Bay relationships,
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or escort client relationships. Intimacy, sexual intimacy, and emotional intimacy
have always been incredibly fascinating to me. So those are
my two main passions, right, writing and intimacy. So through
the course of my book, I develop myself as a person.
I really start writing a lot. I break up with
I don't want to give you a spoiler alert to
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your readers, but there's a relationship that I have, and
through that relationship, I realized I just need to focus
on myself. I need to develop myself as a person
and writer. So I focus on my stripping, my writing,
and eventually, through the recession, I realized stripping is just
not paying the bills anymore, and I evolve further into
the sex industry and I become an escort or what's
known as a professional companion. And my doorway to that
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was through stripping, and then through the Sugar Daddy sites,
and then eventually I became one of the highest paid
or the highest paid escort in the state of Texas.
For a few years, and that's the subject of my
third book, but I touch on it towards the end
of Casey Dancer, And what I discover at the end
of that book and really for the rest of my life,
is that my self esteem and my sense of value
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and my identity is going to come from my pursuits
and pursuing my passions and excelling and succeeding in those passions.
And then what happens is when you love yourself and
you have a firm identity of yourself, then you're going
to attract the person who's perfect for you. Right Unless
you're a whole person within yourself, the people you are
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tracked are never going to be whole people who appreciate
you for who you are. It's always going to be
imbalanced in a little bit, just very imbalanced. And that's
one of the biggest lessons I probably learned towards the
end of the book, i'd say, or in my life
in general.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And I'm sure it was difficult to balance between writing
about your personal intimate life and maybe trying to keep
some privacy here and there. Is that correct, Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know it's funny because I when I wrote my
first book in twenty thirteen, it was roughly twenty years
after most of those events had taken place, and so
it was much easier to write about those incredibly personal
moments between myself and Joe, and those moments about the
worst of my addictions and my early recovery. And so
when I started writing Casey Answer, which takes place mostly
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around the years two thousand and six to twenty ten,
and I started writing it in twenty twenty three, so
again fifteen or more years later, thankfully, so it made
it a lot easier because I feel like I'm such
a different person than I was. It's almost like you're
not writing too much about too much intimate information about
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yourself as you are now. It's like writing about a
person you used to be, which is almost like writing
about a different person. Because if you were to ask
me right now to tell you the deepest, most intimate
secrets about what's going on in my current relationship or
my life right now, I'd probably be a little more hesitant.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You'll be saying, there's a lot of bees wax involved
in this, and none of it is yours. Kristen Casey's
with Me, the author of Casey Dancer on book Spectrum.
One more thing this book does give to the reader,
and it we often, as I said, you were. You
were by extension of celebrity. When you were with Joe
Joe Walsh, you lived that rock star life and you're
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probably in those rock You had your picture taken by
photographers and you were seen as a girl. You were
seen as somebody who lives a glamorous life. You also
worked in that erotic entertainment industry where a lot of
men come and even women. They come and see you
as objects or people who are are there just for
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just for decorations, if anything else. But they failed to
see there are human beings behind the rock star girlfriend
or the even that extends to professional athletes and and
and and yes, the rock stars as well. You see
them for what the magazines tell you. You see them for
what your eyes tell you. But you also show in
the book Casey Dancer that all these people have they're
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humans behind them. They have vulnerabilities, they have aspirations. Uh
they're not to be treated as objects. There to be
thought of and remembered as human beings. And that's important,
I believe, and that's one of the messages I got
from this book.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I really appreciate you saying that, because I think
that's probably one of my strongest drives as a writer,
and especially memoirst because well, like take my first book.
I mean, I was writing about myself as an addict,
which still has a bit of a stigma to it,
and a lot of people they might respect that this
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addict is a full fledged human being, but in this
particular state, they're not really worth thinking about. And the
truth is, there's a lot going on, and I wanted
to be able to give a peek inside an addict's mind.
And then also the other person I'm writing about in
that book was a rock star, and it was really
important me. It was really important to me to impart
that message that rock stars are just people too, and
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putting them on a pedestal is no better than putting
an addict in a lower position in your eyes, Like,
we're all just people, and it doesn't benefit the rock
star to be put on a pedestal in any way.
It really doesn't. It doesn't benefit society, and it doesn't
benefit the rock star because then they get an inflated
opinion of themselves, and then society doesn't really relate to
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them as a human being, and I think that it
isolated Joe. I mean, I think that Joe loves his
fame on the one hand, and on the other hand,
it isolates him. And then, as far as you know addicts,
you're not going to be very empathetic or helpful to
an addict if you're not seeing them as a full
fledged person who's dealing with, you know, life the best
they can. And I would say the same for sex workers,
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and I would say the same for your next door neighbor.
Like when I write memoir, there's a lot of inner narrative,
and I'm trying to constantly write about what motivated me
to behave in the way I behaved because I know
the perception of other people looking at me and my
very unhealthy dating habits, or my weird sex work history,
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or why I chose this man over that one that
everyone else thought I should be with. I wanted to
explain what's going on in the head of not just myself,
but people like me, right, and so having you say
all that that, yes, we're all people that have different
motivations and drives and desires, and maybe we're not doing
everything the way everyone thinks that we should be doing it.
But some of the things we're doing actually make a
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lot of sense, and then other things are just mistakes
that need to get corrected. But it's all very human.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Kristin Casey, I want to thank you for being with
us here on book Spectrum for our readers. Obviously, you
can get the book on Amazon or wherever you buy
your books, and hopefully you find it at the bookstore
as well, because you want to support your local bookstore.
Those guys bring up and have a coffee if they
serve coffee, that sort of thing, because we love the
local bookstores. We need more of them. But again I'll digress.
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Where can our listeners find more out about you and
your blog?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Thank you? I'm the best place to find out about
me is probably Christincasey dot com. That's k R I
S T I n c A s e y dot
com and you'll find all my social media links there.
You should find links to my Amazon listening, and again,
like you said, you'll be able as of April twenty
second to find my books everywhere, my second, first and
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second book everywhere the books are sold, including brick and
mortar stores.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Thank you very much. Christin Casey for being with us.
Check out her book, Casey Dancer, a memoir about dating, stripping,
and a little hot yoga. I guess we have to
learn more about that too on your website.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, yes, yes, the hot yoga is a fraction of
the book, but I do use it a little bit
as a metaphor for life. And you know, with hot
yoga it's a constant balance between trying to find the
right amount of strength and the right amount of flexibility
to not get injured. And when you think about it,
so is life.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That's a good point and we should talk about that
next time. Thanks again, christ and Casey, and thank you
for listening to Books Spectrum. I'm Chris Gordani and keep
turning those pages.
Welcome to book Spenctrum. I'm your host, Chris Cordiny. This
is the show where we interview authors of books who
are not always seasoned writers. Sometimes they are, but generally
people from other occupations across the spectrum. With me on
book Spectrum, as some may know, will be Kristin Casey.
In the Pansts, she's wrote a memoir about her time
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when she was with Joe Walsh. We see girlfriends of
movies and rock stars in the tabloids all the time,
or on page six of the New York Post or
wherever else, and perhaps many only really know them through
what they've seen or what's some gossip columnists selects to
writer decides to write, these are human beings behind the
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glamour and the headlines. There really are, and this is
proven in life, and it's also proven in this Casey's book,
Casey Dancer, a memoir about dating, stripping, and a little
hot yoga. You got to learn about that hot yoga thing.
Apparently since then a lot has happened with her as
she worked with several businesses from real estate to sex, working, dancing,
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and of course, screenplays. She's written a lot of screenplays.
We're going to talk about all of this and beyond
the work life as well. Kristin chronicles her relationships and
personal life. Welcome to the book spectrum.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Kristin, Casey, Hi Chris, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Thank you for being here. Kristin. You chronicle your story
and Casey dancer a bit differently than most. I appreciate
this approach. It's a ranged in three sections. Why did
you do it that way?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Why did I do you know? It's funny that you ask.
I did the book in three sections, not necessarily intentionally.
I wrote the book and then during my first edit,
I realized that these concepts of healthy dating or life
skills that contribute to healthy dating and healthy relationships being authenticity, vulnerability,
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and boundary setting. I realized as I was going through
the book for the first time editing it, that I
had kind of laid them out in three separate sections,
and I thought it really helped delineate my progression through
my recovery and how I was slowly learning how to
number one be more authentic or sorry, number one actually
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be more vulnerable, approach relationships and dating with an open
heart and less afraid of rejection or certainly accepting the
fact that I might get rejected and that it didn't
mean that I was necessarily a worthless person. Right. You
have to be vulnerable in order to date and form
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healthy friendships and relationships, and so vulnerability was the first
thing I learned. And then as I'm going through the book,
I realized, I'm also really in the middle section. When
I was in that relationship, my first relationship since the
one I was in with Joe Walsh, which is so unhealthy,
I was learning to be authentic and to really state
my needs and communicate and cooperate and be less of
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a peace pleaser, and that seemed very clear. And then
towards the end of the book, I really start focusing
on boundary settings, which I call the PhD of life skills.
And so I didn't really do it on purpose. I
was just editing the book and I realized, Oh, this
was my progression through these through learning these through life skills,
and so I thought, I'm going to go ahead and
break the book down into those three parts and label them.
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That's how that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, Kristin a lot of the book centers around your
successes and struggles both at work and in your personal life,
which includes the dating, and of course of family or
anything else, and personal thoughts, being vulnerable and trying to
be tough at the same time, all intertwined. What is
a sequel to your first book for our listeners, What
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was the rock star life like when you were with
Joe Walsh and how did you first adjust to life
after that breakup?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Well, I would tell you the rock star life is
in many ways exactly what most people think it is,
or hope it is, or expect it is. It was
just super fun. It was glamorous, it was exciting, it
was you know, well, I mean, on the one hand,
I had fallen in love with the love of my life,
or at that time, the love of my life, and
it really was kind of a fairy tale. I mean
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it was I just got the sense that Joe and
I were faded to be together, that he was the
man I was meant to marry, and so the fact
that he was a rock star was sort of icing
on the cake. You know, it's wonderful to be in love, obviously,
but when the man you fall in love with has
this really exciting life and all of his friends are celebrities,
and you're traveling all over the world, and you're doing
super fun things, and you're backstage and you're meeting rock
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stars and you're treated like a princess. I mean, it's
as fun as you would expect. The drugs and alcohol
addictions that Joe and I had made it also not
just the best of times, but you know, not to
be cliche, but the worst of times. And so it
was that really classic sort of rock star life where
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it was fun and exciting and filled with celebrities and adventure. Sure,
and it was also just extremely painful and and traumatic,
emotionally traumatic and filled with uh, you know, everything from fighting,
horrible fighting to withdrawal and uh. Yeah, so it was
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the best and the worst. The second question you asked me,
what was that? How did I How did I bounce
back or recover?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Well, let's let's go with adjusting. Right after the breakup,
you're out of the rock star life in that respect.
You're not with uh uh Joe Walsh, you recently said,
was the love of your life. At the time, you
it's it's done, it's over, and you have to go
about doing something on your own, doing something yourself at
this point.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, So when Joe and I broke up, it was
really difficult for me, and I will call it actually traumatic.
It was probably the most traumatic event of my life.
And that's not just because I lost the love of
my life and I lost this exciting life that I had.
The main issue was the reason it was so traumatic
is because I had lost my identity. When I was
with Joe. I was twenty years old and he was
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forty when we met, and he had this very powerful
presence and this really big life, and I was just
learning who I was. I was just you know, figuring
out what I wanted out of life and what my
strengths were. And then I met Joe, and instead of
developing myself as a person and developing on those strengths
and pursuing my passions and developing myself as a writer
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or whatever it was that I wanted to do, which
you know, for me, was being a writer, instead of
doing all of that, I just thought, well, I'm just
going to have this identity as a rockstar's girlfriend. I'll
just be known for the rest of my life by
other people and myself as you know, the girlfriend of
this famous, iconic, talented, creative individual. So my entire identity
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rested on the image or identity of my partner, which
is an incredibly unhealthy place to put yourself. So when
we broke up and he's gone out of my life
and he's back with the Eagles and more famous than ever,
and richer than ever, bigger star than ever, I was.
I was a hole in the doughnut. I had no identity.
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I was on the edge of the abyss. I was
like a vacuum. If you don't develop your own identity,
and you base your identity on your partner, and your
partner leaves, then who are you? So I was really
thrown into just an emotional tail spin. And I spent
the next two years trying to drink myself to death.
Thankfully I failed at that, and I had this sort
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of awakening moment that I described in one of the
last chapters of Rock Monster, my first book, where I
had this sort of spiritual experience and I just realized,
I have two choices. I can continue drinking myself to death,
or I can make something out of my life. I
can develop myself as a person and find something I'm
passionate about and find a purpose in life and make
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something out of my life. And I knew early on,
pretty early on that I wanted to be a writer,
that that was really my greatest strength, or certainly one
of my one of my strengths, and so I slowly started.
I had a lot to learn as far as life skills, right,
I needed to learn how to be a dependable and
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productive person. I needed to learn how to earn an
income and put a roof over my head nuts when
I became a realtor. But I one of the reasons
I wanted to be a realtor and be self employed
was so that I could, Sorry, I lost my turn
of thought, what happens. One of the reasons I wanted
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to be One of the reasons I chose to become
a realtor is because I thought, well, I'll be self
employed so I can spend my free time writing, not
realizing that as a realtor, I was probably going to
be working seven days a week. But I would write,
you know, my short stories and my poetry, and I
worked on scripts and screenplays in the wee hours of
the night. And I eventually went back to stripping for
many reasons, but partly because real estate takes up seven
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days a week and stripping you can do three days
a week and make At the time, I was making
twice as much money working three days a week as
a stripper.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You think I could do that? I mean, maybe I could.
I don't know. I think as much a demand for
an old organizer to do stripping. Well, who knows. Maybe
there are a lot of your set in people like
me out there.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You never know. I tell you one of the ways
in this world it is easier to be a woman.
And I will say that. You know a lot of
women are constantly complaining about the patriarchy and and all
of this, and and that women have it so hard,
and in some ways women have it harder. In some
ways men have it harder. But one of the ways
women have it easier is that sex work is much
more available to us. Certainly, making good money at sex
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work is more available to women.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Than And the guys have to be perfectly fit, they
have to exercise all the time. I'm not up for that,
no way a woman.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You can be curvy. As a man, you got to
be shredded, you got to have the seat pack. And yeah,
they do.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Work in those seven days a week, like the realtors.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's right, absolutely, I mean I tell you I did.
I was a realtor for nine years and I was
a time relator for seven and God bless them. They
work at Saturdays and Sundays, and I think at the
time I probably worked from eight am to nine pm,
five or six days a week, easy, and then maybe
I'd work a half day that seventh day. It's to
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be a success. Yeah, it's a lot, I know.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Even even producing stuff, it takes a lot of work
because everybody wants something. It's a great thing. I love
doing what I do, but sometimes it runs into long hours.
But if you like what you do, and a lot
of people love real estate, I can't I can't begrudge
anybody whose sisters says I love real estate. It's their
whole thing. Like you said, it's a lot of the time,
it's their identity. And they love meeting people. They like
helping people find homes. And yes, I'm sure the money
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is very good in many areas too.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
In real estate. Money can be really good in real estate.
It was I was not working in that price range
where it was doing all that well for me. So
when I started stripping at thirty nine, and I was
doing it two or three days a week. In selling
real estate, like six days a week. Ripping definitely started
paying the bills much better from day one.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
With me is Kristin Casey. She's the author of Casey Dancer.
I do have to I have one question about I
want to reel back a little bit to that dating
Joe Walsh time because I didn't get to do your
first book. I understand at one point he had a
mansion and forgot the price and wasn't there, but they
tell him it was nice we with that mansion.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know, when Joe wrote that song Live' spin Good,
I think he wrote it partly as a joke, although
he was being serious, Like the funniest jokes are based
in reality, right, And the truth was he had before
I met him, when he was with the Eagles originally
before they got back together, he did very very well.
And yeah, he had at least one mansion. I'm quite
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sure when we got together he was living in a
Pennhouse in Westwood, and then after two or three years,
he bought me a beautiful home in Studio City, California,
with a gorgeous pool and a beautiful view. And yeah,
I wouldn't call it a mansion, but we did have
a lovely home.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Together. That sounds really nice. But back to the book though,
and you did talk about you becoming sober, and it
did happen after a while. You discussed that in great
length in Casey Dancer, especially toward the end, and very
notably use it as a barometer for your dating life.
And it was an interesting one altogether, that dating life.
So how did you juxtapose the two in the book?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
How did I juxtapose my recovery and my objectory? You know,
I tell you one of the greatest things that ever
happened to me was stumbling into the twelve steps, right,
and so the twelve steps that I used to get
covered basically represent twelve principles that are life skills. You know.
You're talking about honesty, for one thing, and accountability and restitution,
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you know, skills that are going to help you get
through every aspect of your life. And if you apply
a lot of that stuff to dating, which is I
think a lot of people would consider one of the
most important aspects the life. Certainly I did. I mean,
because when I got sober, what I wanted more than
anything was to fall in love and to have a
life mate, you know, and to have someone special in
my life someone who considered me special, and I had
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no idea how to do that. I had no idea
how to date in a healthy way, but I did
know how I would. I had just learned how to
live my life in a healthy ways. And the foundation
of those twelve principles really is honesty, not just being
honest with others, but being honest with yourself. And so
I started applying those principles to my dating life. And
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one of the ways, like here's a good example, I'll
say when when I was first starting to date and
I was learning how to be vulnerable, and that means
approaching these men that I was interested in with an
open heart. One of the tactics I would use, because
I was so afraid of rejection, is that I would
pretend to be so cool and aloof and I really
I was happy with something casual when a truth, I
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might really like this guy and want to be developed
something serious with them, but I was afraid to ski
him off. I was afraid that if he saw how
much I liked him, he'd get you know, uh, he'd
get scared off. So so I wouldn't be honest with him,
or even honest with myself and I'd convince him and
myself that I really just wanted something casual. You know,
There's just another way that I was sort of being
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dishonest with myself is I was I would date men
who are kind of unavailable, either emotionally unavailable, or maybe
they lived three states away, or maybe they were married
or had a girlfriend. You know, I was dating unavailable
men because it would be like a cushion protecting myself
against rejection. Because if a guy's not really available, how
much can he really reject you? Right? So, all of
these little tactics that people use when they're when they're
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refusing to be emotionally vulnerable, we do that to protect ourselves.
But if you're applying the principle of honesty to your life,
the principle that I lived through my that I learned
through my twelve Steps, then you have to say, you
know what, I'm not being honest with him, I'm not
being honest with myself. I am afraid of rejection. I
do want to develop something deeper, and I'm and I'm
going to be honest out that I'm going to accept
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the consequences if I scare them off. I scare them
off I'll go find somebody else. You know, you have
to have a little faith that you know there's someone
better for me, or someone someone else that I that
might be better for me. So all of these principles
behind the twelve Steps can be applied to every area
of your life, including dating, and so authenticity is another
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example of learning to be honest and communicative about your needs.
Boundary setting is a very important life skill that I
will say is important in the twelve step recovery for
alcoholics and addicts, but even more so in alan On,
which is another twelve step recovery program where you learn
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boundary setting. And that's alan On is where a lot
of people who are like friends and family and loved
ones of alcoholics and addicts will go to help learn
how to deal with the addicts and alcoholics in their life.
And so the principle what I'm trying to say is
that the principles of the twelve Steps can help you
in every area of your life. And for me in particular,
they helped me learn authenticity, vulnerability, and boundary setting in
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my dating trajectory, which you know, in recovery, it took
me a good ten years to learn how to date
in a way that was healthy enough that I could
actually have a boyfriend and a true relationship. So it
wasn't an overnight thing. You know, recovery is not an
overnight thing. And learning how to date in a healthy way,
if you've never done it before, that's not an overnight
thing either.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And then he wasn't easy for me back in the
day too. I mean back in high school when I
was trying to date, I learned that there was a
three year epidemic of every girl that I knew having headaches.
This must have been this whole thing, with every girl
a new and every girl in the entire school system
having headaches for three years. Something that happened.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Cocidence there, Chris, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know what must have been an epidemic, kind of
like COVID. I guess. Try to stand twenty feet apart
from me. But again that's another story for another day.
We're not talking about my dating experiences. We're talking about
you and the book Casey Dancer Kristin the book also
looks at your growth as a human, your dating experiences
and work roller coaster. And it was a work roller coaster.
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Let's not leave that out because that's part of what
built you are written in the book is both catalysts
and reasons depending on the instance to your growth as
a person. How did they help shape you through the
time again while you recovered and your transition to becoming
extremely successful in recent years.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Okay, so yes, I do. I would say that I
grew a lot through the course of this book. Right.
It covers about twelve years, but it kind of specifically
focuses on my late thirties and my early forties, And
one thing I learned through that time period is that
I would say the arc of my awareness through the
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course of the book is that in the beginning, I'm
looking for men to tell me how to feel about myself.
I'm looking for the men that I'm dating to make
me feel worthy, to make me feel worth something in life, right,
which I think a lot of people do, especially when
you're young. You know, teenagers do that. Well. When I
got sober at twenty nine, I kind of had a
little bit of the emotional maturity in some ways, especially
in as far as dating and romance. I had the
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emotional maturity of a teenager. I really needed other people
to tell me how to feel about myself and to
boost my self esteem. But through the course of my book,
and through the course of dating all those different men
and then having that one relationship, what I came to
learn was that it's not whether somebody loves you or
how many men want to date you that's going to
tell you what your value is as a woman or
as a person. It's really it really was more about
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Towards the end of the book, you can see that
I discover that I have these passions in life that
I really needed to fulfill. For example, writing was one
of them. And the more I wrote, and the more
successful I became with my writing, the more I developed
my self esteem and a sense of value and myself
a person. But also stripping was a passion of mine.
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Sex work was a passion of mine. And I know
that sounds a little crazy to some people, and I
use the term sex work very loosely. I don't I've
never really considered stripping sex work because you're not having
sex as a stripper, you're an erotic entertainer. But it
is classified, you know, by the government, and the irs
is the sex industry, right. And then my stripping did
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lead I've always been fascinated by sexuality and relationships and intimacy.
And you know, whether that is in the context of
romantic relationships or compensated relationships like Sugar Daddy Sugar Bay relationships,
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or escort client relationships. Intimacy, sexual intimacy, and emotional intimacy
have always been incredibly fascinating to me. So those are
my two main passions, right, writing and intimacy. So through
the course of my book, I develop myself as a person.
I really start writing a lot. I break up with
I don't want to give you a spoiler alert to
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your readers, but there's a relationship that I have, and
through that relationship, I realized I just need to focus
on myself. I need to develop myself as a person
and writer. So I focus on my stripping, my writing,
and eventually, through the recession, I realized stripping is just
not paying the bills anymore, and I evolve further into
the sex industry and I become an escort or what's
known as a professional companion. And my doorway to that
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was through stripping, and then through the Sugar Daddy sites,
and then eventually I became one of the highest paid
or the highest paid escort in the state of Texas.
For a few years, and that's the subject of my
third book, but I touch on it towards the end
of Casey Dancer, And what I discover at the end
of that book and really for the rest of my life,
is that my self esteem and my sense of value
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and my identity is going to come from my pursuits
and pursuing my passions and excelling and succeeding in those passions.
And then what happens is when you love yourself and
you have a firm identity of yourself, then you're going
to attract the person who's perfect for you. Right Unless
you're a whole person within yourself, the people you are
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tracked are never going to be whole people who appreciate
you for who you are. It's always going to be
imbalanced in a little bit, just very imbalanced. And that's
one of the biggest lessons I probably learned towards the
end of the book, i'd say, or in my life
in general.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And I'm sure it was difficult to balance between writing
about your personal intimate life and maybe trying to keep
some privacy here and there. Is that correct, Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know it's funny because I when I wrote my
first book in twenty thirteen, it was roughly twenty years
after most of those events had taken place, and so
it was much easier to write about those incredibly personal
moments between myself and Joe, and those moments about the
worst of my addictions and my early recovery. And so
when I started writing Casey Answer, which takes place mostly
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around the years two thousand and six to twenty ten,
and I started writing it in twenty twenty three, so
again fifteen or more years later, thankfully, so it made
it a lot easier because I feel like I'm such
a different person than I was. It's almost like you're
not writing too much about too much intimate information about
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yourself as you are now. It's like writing about a
person you used to be, which is almost like writing
about a different person. Because if you were to ask
me right now to tell you the deepest, most intimate
secrets about what's going on in my current relationship or
my life right now, I'd probably be a little more hesitant.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You'll be saying, there's a lot of bees wax involved
in this, and none of it is yours. Kristen Casey's
with Me, the author of Casey Dancer on book Spectrum.
One more thing this book does give to the reader,
and it we often, as I said, you were. You
were by extension of celebrity. When you were with Joe
Joe Walsh, you lived that rock star life and you're
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probably in those rock You had your picture taken by
photographers and you were seen as a girl. You were
seen as somebody who lives a glamorous life. You also
worked in that erotic entertainment industry where a lot of
men come and even women. They come and see you
as objects or people who are are there just for
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just for decorations, if anything else. But they failed to
see there are human beings behind the rock star girlfriend
or the even that extends to professional athletes and and
and and yes, the rock stars as well. You see
them for what the magazines tell you. You see them for
what your eyes tell you. But you also show in
the book Casey Dancer that all these people have they're
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humans behind them. They have vulnerabilities, they have aspirations. Uh
they're not to be treated as objects. There to be
thought of and remembered as human beings. And that's important,
I believe, and that's one of the messages I got
from this book.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I really appreciate you saying that, because I think
that's probably one of my strongest drives as a writer,
and especially memoirst because well, like take my first book.
I mean, I was writing about myself as an addict,
which still has a bit of a stigma to it,
and a lot of people they might respect that this
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addict is a full fledged human being, but in this
particular state, they're not really worth thinking about. And the
truth is, there's a lot going on, and I wanted
to be able to give a peek inside an addict's mind.
And then also the other person I'm writing about in
that book was a rock star, and it was really
important me. It was really important to me to impart
that message that rock stars are just people too, and
(24:49):
putting them on a pedestal is no better than putting
an addict in a lower position in your eyes, Like,
we're all just people, and it doesn't benefit the rock
star to be put on a pedestal in any way.
It really doesn't. It doesn't benefit society, and it doesn't
benefit the rock star because then they get an inflated
opinion of themselves, and then society doesn't really relate to
(25:09):
them as a human being, and I think that it
isolated Joe. I mean, I think that Joe loves his
fame on the one hand, and on the other hand,
it isolates him. And then, as far as you know addicts,
you're not going to be very empathetic or helpful to
an addict if you're not seeing them as a full
fledged person who's dealing with, you know, life the best
they can. And I would say the same for sex workers,
(25:30):
and I would say the same for your next door neighbor.
Like when I write memoir, there's a lot of inner narrative,
and I'm trying to constantly write about what motivated me
to behave in the way I behaved because I know
the perception of other people looking at me and my
very unhealthy dating habits, or my weird sex work history,
(25:55):
or why I chose this man over that one that
everyone else thought I should be with. I wanted to
explain what's going on in the head of not just myself,
but people like me, right, and so having you say
all that that, yes, we're all people that have different
motivations and drives and desires, and maybe we're not doing
everything the way everyone thinks that we should be doing it.
But some of the things we're doing actually make a
(26:17):
lot of sense, and then other things are just mistakes
that need to get corrected. But it's all very human.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Kristin Casey, I want to thank you for being with
us here on book Spectrum for our readers. Obviously, you
can get the book on Amazon or wherever you buy
your books, and hopefully you find it at the bookstore
as well, because you want to support your local bookstore.
Those guys bring up and have a coffee if they
serve coffee, that sort of thing, because we love the
local bookstores. We need more of them. But again I'll digress.
(26:44):
Where can our listeners find more out about you and
your blog?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Thank you? I'm the best place to find out about
me is probably Christincasey dot com. That's k R I
S T I n c A s e y dot
com and you'll find all my social media links there.
You should find links to my Amazon listening, and again,
like you said, you'll be able as of April twenty
second to find my books everywhere, my second, first and
(27:08):
second book everywhere the books are sold, including brick and
mortar stores.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Thank you very much. Christin Casey for being with us.
Check out her book, Casey Dancer, a memoir about dating, stripping,
and a little hot yoga. I guess we have to
learn more about that too on your website.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Okay, yes, yes, the hot yoga is a fraction of
the book, but I do use it a little bit
as a metaphor for life. And you know, with hot
yoga it's a constant balance between trying to find the
right amount of strength and the right amount of flexibility
to not get injured. And when you think about it,
so is life.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That's a good point and we should talk about that
next time. Thanks again, christ and Casey, and thank you
for listening to Books Spectrum. I'm Chris Gordani and keep
turning those pages.
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