Born Again Again

Being "Unequally Yoked" is a major concern when one partner in a couple goes through a faith change without the other, and our guests today have generously shared that journey with us all. 

Ben and Andrea are a mixed-faith couple that went through this tricky process and have come out the other side stronger. In this interview we talk about those first difficult conversations, about therapy and how that was instrumental for them, a...

“On a base level of what feels right and wrong, rejecting a person for wanting to experience love just didn’t feel right at all.”

Today’s episode is an interview with David, who grew up in the southern Church or Christ and left the faith later in life.

We talk about what is was like growing up in a southern fundamentalist church, about having doubts as a kid, but not knowing how to express them, about a conversation with a coworker...

“Belief is not a choice, and if it’s not a choice then the burden is off of my shoulders”

Today’s episode is an interview with Andi + Jeremy, a couple who, similar to Katie and me, started their relationship as committed christians but then headed down the path of deconversion.

We talk about their origins and the first dominos that started to fall, about the difficulties that came with losing their faiths at different rates, about ...

“For the first time in my life I feel a freedom and a love and acceptance that Ive never had, ever. I can feel my power.”

Today’s episode is the first in a series of episodes where we’re going to be turning the mic around and interviewing you - members of our Born Again Again community!

And this first episode is with a wonderful personal trainer, writer, and momma of 2 named Stacy! Our conversation was deep and incredibly encouragi...

Letting go of the promise of heaven is a really hard part of leaving the faith and leaves many of us with a fear of death.

In this episode, we discuss this typically heavy topic with death doula Caroline Ingraham Lee. We talk about her story and how she became a death doula, and discuss what that means on a practical level. We end by talking about how facing her own mortality head-on has helped her to live a richer, more engaged...

As ex-Christians, we understand better than most what it's like to live with an extreme worldview.

In today's episode we talk about the unique perspective we've gained since leaving our faith, and how that perspective empowers us to relate to those that we disagree with. We talk about some common reasons that we can slip back into an 'us' vs 'them' mentality, and why ex-Christians are especially prone to that type of thinking. 

We ...

Healing ourselves using our own inner resources has been a major source of empowerment for us both.

In today's episode, Katie and I talk through our experiences doing 'Inner Child' work, and share some ways that it's been helpful and eye-opening for us.

As always, we try to keep things super light and practical. Hopefully our experience will encourage you to go within and try it for yourself.

And if you're looking for a guided medi...

We all want better sex and relationships.

Today’s episode is an interview with Sex and Relationship coach Meg Cowan. During our conversation, we talk about understanding personal agency, autoimmune issues in a repressed body, and untangling from shame. We get into communication, both in relationship AND your communication with yourself, as well as some practical ways to begin building a new sexual ethic. And we wrap up by talki...

Today’s episode is an interview with Jamie Lee Finch!

Im sure many of you already know her from her book, You Are Your Own, but she is also an embodiment coach, acting (as she puts it) as a mediator between you and your body.

In this episode we talk about that feeling of overwhelm when you are first leaving your faith, we talk about the importance of reconnecting with your body, and what that can look like.We also dive into the imp...

We were given WAY too much advice.

In today's episode we talk about the importance of being really strict on who's voice you allow into your life. We talk about the abundance of input Christians had in our lives when we were younger and the implications of that.

We also talk news, politics, social media, and the overwhelming amount of voices that we are subjected to every day.

Then we talk about two major ways we've been able to qu...

Season 2 is officially here!

In this episode we examine the process of coming to belief in God/Christianity/Bible/etc. We discuss how the process of going from a human to a Christian is broken into many small, easy-to-swallow stages, and how this process allows normal, logical people to believe in things like speaking made up languages, pretending to drink human blood and eat human flesh, and in an invisible, silent, angry overlord...

Can you be proud of your own humility? Did Christianity make us over-analytical? Let's find out!

In addition to a brief update, in this episode we discuss the idea of spiritual materialism, as discussed in Sam Harris's 'Waking Up' app. We talk about how Christian leaders feign humility by bragging about their awareness of their sins, about how being a Christian may have made us overly analytical, about how this spiritual pride is n...

Does "Let go and let God" make you cringe? Us too. 

In this episode we discuss the idea of surrender and what it was like to have a higher power to surrender our problems to. We talk about the security and comfort we found in giving things over to God, and how jarring it was to lose that ability once we left the faith. 

To bring it full circle, we talk about the idea of radical acceptance, bringing awareness to our worry and anxiet...

When it comes down to it, does anyone really believe?

In this episode we talk about belief, and how it relates to life in the real world. We talk about the corona virus and how we would have responded to it when we used to be Christian. Is there a line where a person’s faith will inevitably take a back seat to reason?

We finish the episode by talking about the huge (unnecessary) weight of balancing religion and real life, and the g...

Today Katie is going to read you some Bible stories (is Katie writing this in the third person? yes).

We’re thinking back on our childhood and all the Bible stories we were taught through picture books and children’s Sunday school skits.

The Tower of Babel and Noah’s Ark are two such stories that we never batted an eye at, but now we’re re-reading them to see what we missed.

Coming back to the Bible after taking a break was a shock...

Turning the other cheek, being meek, being humble, are not particularly helpful when taken to the extreme.

Today we’re so excited to be sharing a conversation we had with Tully O’Connor. 

Tully is a personal development and relationship coach that I (Joe) have been working with over the last few months, and I have been hugely benefitted by my time spent with him.

During this conversation we talk about people pleasing, and how disco...

We felt like we had to do a lot of studying before we walked away from our faith.

In this episode we talk briefly about Rhett and Link’s deconstruction podcast episodes, specifically about how their story parallels ours and many of yours as well.

Then we talk about how many people feel ill-equipped to leave their faith. We discuss how Christianity can teach you to “lean not on your own understanding”, and how that can keep a person...

We’ve all heard the Christian response: “I went through a period of doubt as well, and the Lord brought me back to him.”

In this episode we talk about this common Christian sentiment, and discuss why it’s so dismissive, belittling, and misguided. We talk about how most people who claim to have “explored their doubts” were likely just trying to ignore their intuition and get rid of their internal red flags.

We always believed that d...

It’s our second interview, and it’s with the Reclamation Collective!

Today we’re excited to be sharing a conversation we had with 2 wonderful therapists, Kayla Felten and Kendra Synder, who together have formed the Reclamation Collective. 

In this episode we cover a lot of ground, but we’re focusing on healing without recreating your trauma. We talk about how codependency can show up in group contexts, about how many of us have giv...