Boy Green Daily: Aaron Glenn Puts Jets WR Xavier Gipson on Notice After Costly Fumble vs. Steelers

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
No victory Monday, sorry, Jet fans, but there is a
lot to take away. Plus Aaron Glenn put Xavier Gibson
firmly unnoticed after his athlete fumble against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
We talk about all the ripple effects, plus Jets Beat
reporter Nick Farrier joints. At eight o'clock, Boy Green Daily starts.
Now I'm gonna lose my gash darned bananas. Boy Green

(00:27):
Daily start snare Zoets.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Buggy Day, Buggy d Buggy, Let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Do put your seatbelts on, getting ready for the ride.
We're in a freaking New York Jets so we're built
for the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Everybody. I'm Paul Aston Junior aka Boy Green on the
New York Jets digital reporter forevery dot com. Welcome to
Boy Green Daily, a daily New York Jets video show,
also available wherever you get your podcast. Wow, what a
day yesterday five hours of live streaming and we had
a surge of new subscribers, So welcome to all the
new peeps in the building, and shout out to the

(01:22):
ogs as well. It's great to have you. What a
while day. Unfortunately, as I woke up this morning and
saw the Aaron Rodgers dancing around. It's still real. The
Jets lost in Week one. They start off the season
ohe to one against the Steelers, and that sucks. There's
just no other way to put it, especially at Aaron
Rodgers and the smugness and the firing it back to

(01:43):
the Jets and all that other jazz. But here's the
good news, folks, and we'll get into Aaron Glenn putting
Xavier Gibson on notice in a second full article on
the YouTube description down below. It's over. It's finally over.
We don't have to talk about Aaron Rodgers anymore. Screw
Aaron Rodgers. Go enjoy your stupid Steelers team and get
the hell out of here. Okay, no more talking about it.

(02:05):
We're on to Buffalo. We will talk about a couple
of nuggets from that Steelers game. Still, of course, here
on a overreaction Monday. But let's let's move the hell on.
Let's get ready and let's go one hundred. The Rogers
stuff is nauseating. I agree, we have Ernie's and the

(02:25):
Rogers stuff is nauseating. Absolutely, So whoop, see you don't
care anymore? Move on there you are, okay, So Rogers.
See you skip town Audios, Hosta Loego. Here we are.
But let's get to the brass tacks. One of the
big reasons the New York Jets lost the game, maybe

(02:46):
the reason Xavier Gibson. He fumbled and I misspoke yesterday
on the postgame show. Five hours of live streaming, we'll
do that. So there's about fourteen minutes and change left
in the fourth Jets are up to Steelers. Just score touchdown.
Aaron Rodgers gets that swing pass to Jalen Warren. The

(03:07):
Jets get the kickoff again. This is the beginning of
the fourth quarter. They had a two point lead, twenty
six to twenty four, and they were getting the ball.
Xavier Gibson fumbles. Steelers got on top of it. They
score immediately and it's thirty one, twenty six, five point game,
and all of a sudden, everything changes. The Jets had
possession and a two point lead to oh snap, their

(03:28):
down five, and that happened very quickly, all because of
Xavier Gibson and he had this costly fumble, and Jet
fans we all talked about that Jamal Pritchett Xavier Gibson
decision before the season and I'll have more on that
in a second, but first let's go to coach. Here
is Aaron Glenn after the game saying, Xavier Gibson, Hey, buddy,
keep your head on a swivel.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
The one thing to me that that had that turned
this game is, man, we can't have turnovers.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
We can't do it. We have to be a more
disciplined team. Right. That was some palties that happened in
that game. That was was true discipline issues.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
And again that's something that will be addressed because you
will not be on the field with this team. If
you're gonna cause to lose games, you're gonna cause issues
like that.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
So we will get that address.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And there you go from a gen. Now, he didn't
mention Xavier Gibson by name, but folks, detective boy Green
on the case, the Jets had one turnover. Xavier Gibson
was the person that turned the ball over with the fumble.
Aaron Glad says, people that cause us to lose games
will not be on the field. He started off that
answer saying we can't have turnovers. Don Xavier Gibson, you're unnoticed, pal.

(04:40):
He didn't mention you by name. He didn't have to
you know what your name is, you know what you
did and awful, awful. You know we said in the
off season we want Jamal Pritchett. And here's this, not
just we the fans. It's not just the fans falling
in love with some player that didn't deserve it. According

(05:00):
to rich Samani, Okay, this is in our article on
the YouTube description down below, but let's talk about this
real quick.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I listen into a lot of Jets content, and I
hope that when I and what I mean by that
his podcast interviews everything and I try to sap up
all that information my big old dumb head. I got
plenty of room up there to throw stuff into my
brain rattling around with such a peanut brain in there
that I remember Rich Semini explaining the decision. Right, So

(05:29):
Jets make their fifty three man roster. One of the
big decisions. Ooh, Savior Gibson or Jamal pritchet Savid Gibson
Jamal Pritchett. The fans wanted Jamal Pritchett. The fans thought
he played better. Rich Semini thought he played better. And
this is from rich Semini on the podcast. Okay, I
think Jamal Pritchett clearly outplayed Xavier Gibson in the preseason. Okay,

(05:50):
so let's put that. There's more to that quote, but
we'll park that quote right there. Right So Rich Simeni
and his observations, he said every practice, he said, clearly
Jamal Pritchett outplayed Xavier game. But there was a caveat
of why the Jets apparently pick Xavier Gibson over Jamal
Pritchett when they made the roster decision, and it is this.
Here's the rest of that quote from Rich Semini. I

(06:11):
think Jamal Pritchett clearly outplayed Savior Gibson the preseason. But
the thing is that it's a punt returning job right now.
That is the way that that player is going to
get into the game and get on the field, is
what rich Sarmoni said on August twenty seventh, after the
Jets made the roster decision, Rich Samini asked, do you

(06:31):
trust him? Do you trust him to stand back there
on opening Day with eighty thousand people and to catch
a pun against the Steelers? So I think right now
they the Jets feel more trust for Xavier Gibson back
there fielding punts. Now, in this particular situation, we're talking
about a kickoff and out a punt. But it's easy
to put the pieces together. How ironic did Jets say

(06:53):
we trust Savior Gibson? More? Aaron Glenn had that quote
at the presser Xavier Gibson at sixty seven straight punts received.
Now we're shows okay, well what about now, pal? What
about now? The good news is is that your break
the glass, your mall pritchet. He's on the practice squad.
You cut him, he cleared waivers, he returned to the

(07:15):
practice squad. He's right there. You don't have to look
far for a replacement. You don't have to look far.
Xavier Gibson swung the momentum of the game. Now, there's
a lot of reasons Jets lost. A lot of reasons. Penalties, sure,
seven penalties were seventy four yards that that was a factor,
for sure, a little bit of the conservative nature, and

(07:37):
a couple of other things that cost him, for sure.
There's a lot of reasons. We could get into that
in a little bit. I agree with this. I was
gonna mention this anyway, Steven Fox are mismanagering a time
out to the second half came back to by us
in the ass ag has to work on that immediately, right.
We used a time out on the two point conversion,

(07:58):
and I talked about this on the live stream, like, okay,
we had better convert thing because that's an important two
point conversion. You took a time out, you like, you
like flubbed up timeouts on the two point conversion. We
have one more time out. Things work out a little
bit differently. Things work out a little bit differently, So
we have a super chat chat out from our boy

(08:20):
Philiam fl Phil ninety eight. Baby, let's go to it
right here on the channel. Hey, now w FLFIL ninety
eight has been a member for fourteen months. Beg had
told you Arion Smith would be our kick returner, and
he was. He did get an opportunity back there, I
think return it for thirty one yards on his only
return of the game. So very nice, hey, Arion Smith. Unfortunately,

(08:41):
Cana and Guanu got hurt. I believe you hard his hamstring,
so we'll have to see his status because you have
two returners back there on this new NFL system, the
way that they have it, that's what how most teams operate.
Two returners back there. You don't have to, but the
Jets do, and most teams do so with Canae and
Guano was one of those returners. He's off the field
now and now you're left with Xavier Gibson, Arion Smith,

(09:02):
and let's figure out who the other guys are that
exist out there in the universe in terms of the
return game for the Jets. But that costs the Jets,
and that was a decision A lot of people questioned
at fifty three man roster time. Thanks for being a
member for the Channel for fourteen months, Faillium, And now
ag says that he's unnotice and we'll see how quickly

(09:29):
does that mean. Is Xavier Gibson getting cut this week?
Is he getting benched? Does he give him another chance?
There's a lot of questions, not many answers at this
point as it pertains to the Xavier Gibson situation. Now,
I missed a ton of super chats from yesterday, so
I want to apologize to everybody. I missed a bunch.

(09:54):
I apologize yesterday in the middle of our five hour livestream.
I hate missing things, so I want to make sure
that I make it up for shout out to Fort
Lily and Big D. I missed your missed one of
your super chats about Gibson, so I did add extra
raffle tickets for you for Lily and Big D. My apologies.
And also I see I had one from Stephen Fox.
I believe he screenshot at it, so I will talk

(10:17):
about it right now here on the show. Let me
get this one up there for Xavier Gibson or not
Xavier Gibson rather, I believe this was Stephen Fox. Excuse
me here it is, so apologies to Eddione. I missed
your super chats yesterday. I hate missing super chats. So
Stephen Fox had this in. He asked, who is our

(10:37):
quarterback on defense? Bad communication? That would be Jamie and Sherwood.
He is the Mike linebacker for the New York Jets,
so he is green dot on the back of the helmet.
That would be Jamie and Sherwood from that perspective. So
Steven Fox, thank you for the super chat and let
me not cheat you out of one of these. Let
me get this in. Also, here's one for for Loly Wow.

(11:03):
But yes, yes, who is our quarterback on defense? Bad communication?
That would be Jamie Sherwood is our quarterback on defense,
and he was out of place several times. Because that's
one of the most backbreaking things.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Here.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
We talked about some of the reasons they lost, right,
I mentioned Xavier Gibson, I mentioned penalties, and then the
breakdown in coverage is man, how many times did the
Steelers have wide open guys? Right, we're crowning Aaron Rodgers.
You want to crown on the crown is ass. We're
crowning Aaron Rodgers on being this guy who sliced and
diced our defense. Well, we gave him plenty of chances.
There were wide open guys. DK metcalf wide open on

(11:37):
that one acrosser. Okay, we had Calvin Austin third on
their touchdown after the Zavier Gibson fumble, wide open? What
the hell? Who's responsible?

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Look like Brandon Stevens. A couple of times he looked responsible.
We'll talk about Brandon Stevens this week. I'm sure for
his struggles. Like when Brandon Stevens was signed random side
note here, when he was signed, a lot of was
one of them blee and then the Jets ad, hey,
you know he's got the traits. We can muld him,
we can build him, we can you know, won't make

(12:08):
it happen. We're like, all right, let's play the coaching
staff and then apparently Cordon training camp, Brandon Stevens was
the player camp. I'm like, wow, okay, Brandon Stevens, all right,
See I guess the coaching staff was right, and that
Brandon Stevens got dog walked to the season opener all
over the place, good lord, And I'm like, God, so
many busted coverages and I'm seeing like Brandon Stevens slipping

(12:30):
around out there like a baby deer. WHOA, Come on, Brandon,
get your feet under your young buck. You're a veteran,
you just got paid. Come on, man, step up in
the moment. I'm not asking for one hundred interceptions, but
play the gosh darn quarterback positioned for Bete's sake. Oh

(12:51):
so Brent Stephens was awful. So yeah, so you can
blay him Jamien Sherwood for some communication on defense not
getting ayone in the right spot because, as Jamien has
said in multiple interviews as officers, so thanks to the
super jet. Stephen Fox, Like I said, I'll make it
up with raffle tickets on there to make up for
my miss I apologize. Like Jamie Sherwood says, it's my
job to know everyone else's job and then my own job.

(13:13):
That's being a leader, it's being a captain, which he is.
He's a captain on this team. He is one of
the leaders of this defense. And yeah, communication was poor.
There's just no other way to put it. It was
incredibly poor. Poor from that perspective as far as I'm concerned,
very poor. And that sucked. So Aaron Rodgers is getting

(13:37):
crowned as like the greatest quarterback of all time. Oh,
I still got it. I still got it. Eye roll,
four touchdowns, no picks. He could celebrate all this wonderful stuff.
But the Jets were just so wide open. So there's
so many or the defense was so wide open on
so many plays that when the Jets score thirty two points,

(13:59):
there's supposed to win those games. As you guys have
talked about in the comment section, Jet's supposed to win
those games. They give up thirty four points and some
I mentioned earlier. There's so much to feel good about, right,
And we'll talk about this on the live show. I've
got a live show coming up at eleven o'clock for
the Manchut Show Boy Green Digital. We're going to talk

(14:20):
about why I believe the Jets found their quarterback Justin Fields.
Justin Fields was spectacular, terrific, efficient, ran the football. I mean,
Justin Field's played as great as you could have hoped for.
And then at the end, apparently there's breakdown of communications.
Presol said this after the game between the offensive line
and him, which messed up some of the protection calls.

(14:41):
So Justin Fields looked awesome. We do have a quarterback.
You guys should feel very good about that. I sure do.
And three SIPs. Let me make this perfectly clear. Come on, now,
Rogers did yesterday was impressive. I'm not saying it wasn't impressive.
I think there's a line here. Okay, this is what

(15:01):
I believe. On Aaron Rodgers, did he perform well, yes,
there were several throws and I said on the live show, whoa,
he just flicked his wrist. But to make it seem
like you had the greatest quarterback performance of all time,
let's hold on that. Let's hold on that. He was
really good. But it you know, there's it's not just wow.

(15:22):
The Hall of Fame or shit. You know, there's gray,
there's gray in between. And I thought Rogers was impressive.
But again, I to just say that he had this
greatest game. The Jets defense was all over the place.
That helped tough. All right, let's evaluate some of your
comments again. We'll be joined by our Jets beat reporter

(15:44):
Nick Feria at eight o'clock looking forward to that Ricky
New York Live. Beg, it's my fault, I jinxt us.
I said, uh, David Gibson was dynamite that could blow
up in our face. And it did it, sure did,
absolutely did. Yep, sure did blew up right in our grill,
which was shitty. Oh yeah, let's give some shoutouts here.

(16:06):
I have it a little bit of my notes. Let's
give it a couple of shout outs. So, guys, we
didn't mention yesterday, and I said I needed to review
some additional items. I had to review some additional items
before we could give proper love. So I want to
make sure we do that right now here on the show.
So let's do this. Okay, there's a couple of guys
that deserves some extra love, sas Gardner did. In fact,

(16:29):
Shadow Dk metcalf for much of the game. I believe
Rich Semini had the nugget here, but I'll grab it
here in just a second. On the least, shout out
to sas Gardner and shout out to the Jets for
the most part. Now, there's a few times I wish
they would have just actually did it in the full way,
but sas Gardner did in fact. Here it is a
shout out to rich Samini.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Here.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I'll throw it up here on the big board. Okay,
we'll throw it up here so you guys can see it.
Sas Gardner deserves love. The Jets made in the highest
paid corner in football, and he played like it. He
sure played like it. Here is Ritzamini on social media.

(17:10):
Let's throw this up sascegarn travel with DK Metcalf pretty
much the whole game. Thirty of thirty four pass coverage
snaps per Next Gen Stats for the game, Garner a
lot only two catch, three ten yards is the nearest defender,
and I believe someone else had other analytics said he
only gave it one catch. And obviously there's this stupid
this is where you know you're like, come on, man, okay,

(17:32):
and oblong shaped football Soasgunner breaks up at DK metcalf pass,
it joints into the air, hits another player, hits another player,
that boop falls on DK's chest. He's like, oh, it's sweet.
And then you're just like, what's come on? Come on
football Gods, for the love of Christ, how many how
often does that happen other teams? For goodness sake? All

(17:55):
this random bs unbelievable. Who let's give some credit to
Sasgardner for shadowing DK Metcalf. Now, the problem is is
that beyond sauce, there was a lot of bad. Michael
Carter the second welcome back, but good lord, we need

(18:18):
you to wrap up, buddy, We need you to wrap up.
And he got juked out of his socks by DK Metcalf,
which turned like a two yard gain to a fifty
yard gain. Unbelievable, and so many tackling issues. And that's
another thing with tackling, profiling breaking down where you had

(18:38):
an opportunity short of the sticks to just take a
guy out and then they didn't. And DK Metcaff did
that on the right sideline as well and caused all
kinds of issues the safeties. Oh my god, Tony Adams
good friggin lord Andre Cisco. He's my boy. I love Andrancisco.

(19:01):
But oh oh, Tony Adams was worse. But I don't
know if that's kind of bar you want to say,
Tony Adams is awful?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yesterday?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
How many mistackles? How many didn't even get ready? Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,
A lot of bad, yes, sir, Then we didn't even
get the chit's talk about. But I want to give
a shout out to Sauce. I definitely want to give
a shout at So let's give another shot out here.
And this is cool because we didn't mention this player
at all. And by the way, that's how it's supposed

(19:33):
to work. That is how it's supposed to work. And
that's what happened. Here we go. Let's go to Ryan
Fowler of the Draft Network. I believe that's where he's
still at. Uh Nope, he's not all right. Well AnyWho,
I messed up your place of business, Ryan Fowler, But nonetheless,
you had a very good tweet here. Let's bring it up.

(19:55):
This is a name we didn't mention, but that is
how it's supposed to work. And here it is armand MEMBOO,
you're like armand Membo. What happened there? Armand Membo deserves
our love. Look at this? Look at this debut Jets
rookie right tackle Arma Membu pitched a shout out in
his NFL debut with twenty six pass pro snaps, zero sacks,

(20:19):
zero hurries, zero quarterback hits, zero pressures. Good start for
the top ten pick. Go figure the narratives we think
in training camp in preseason and then what we bring
to the field right, fascinating. Brandon Stevens, Oh boy, he's
gonna be great. He's not great? Oh, armand Membo looking

(20:42):
a little shaky. Connor Houston Sack rossel I talked about that.
Connor Hughes said he was very concerned. He said, if
he basically, and I'm gonna paraphrase Conor Hughes here, if
Arma members is gonna slapped around by key On Tibdeau,
what's gonna happen when we get to the to the
real games. Because Caveon Thibodeau isn't that good. He's an
okay player. And look at this right, all the all
the overreaction to Armor MEMBOO. Not sure about that day?

(21:05):
And look at this ARMA memboo looked awesome. He was
facing t J. Watt, He's facing Alex heismanth He's facing
real dudes. So you should feel very very good about that.
Very good. Olu got dogged on a play. He was
mostly good. I think I'll have to go back and

(21:27):
look at his data. But he got dogged. It was
by Alex Heismith or t J. Water somebody I can't
even remember now, but they juked him out and immediate
sack on Justin Fields. For the most part, I thought
they did pretty well in terms of protecting Justin Fields.
He had pretty clean pockets and whatever. Whenever broke down,
he was able to escape out of them. But the
shout out to armand Membo. There you go, armand Membo,

(21:50):
great performance. Young man. Wanted to give a shout out
to ARMA member. Let me see if there's anyone else
I missed. Oh yeah, uh, here's uh, here's another one here,
here's another one here, and we'll get to all your
memberships and everything here on the channel. Alan Lazard whoa
We talked about this at the beginning of our live

(22:10):
stream yesterday. He was a healthy scratch. Aaron Glenn said, yep,
he's gonna be good to go, and we were like,
all right, he's going to play, and he was good
to go. He wasn't on the injury report. Here's a
healthy scratch for the Jets, which is his future in question?
Are they about to trade his ass? Is that coming today?

(22:31):
That's just some speculation because you wouldn't have wanted to
give up that player. And then he immediately goes to
the Steelers and gives up all kinds of key and tel.
So I don't know what you can trade him for him,
b Rito. I don't know, but with your wide receiver depth,
because another problem was no clear wide receiver two stepped
up next to Garrett Wilson. Yesterday the leading receiver behind
Garrett Wilson was Reese Hall. Reese Hall. I didn't see

(22:55):
a lot of Josh Reynolds. Tyler Johnson made a couple
of plays. But and he's reverting back to the practice
squad today. That was a temporary elevation. So I'm curious
to see that situation. So Alan Lazard, he was a
healthy scratch. Is he just going to continue to be
a healthy scratch? Are they doing something with him? Then?
Why did they keep him? Like again, it didn't make

(23:16):
sense from a redundancy standpoint. They had a lot of
guys that were the same. Josh Reynolds big guy that
can block ALA's are a big guy that can block
Tyler Johnson, you know, not as big but blocking kind
of guy. Like they can't all be on the depth chart.
That doesn't make any sense. So I don't believe Aaron
Glenn was asked about Alan Lazard yesterday in the postgame presser,

(23:37):
so we'll have to hear it this week. But Alan
Wizard healthy scratch, that was surprising. Brad mc gregor's healthy scratch,
healthy scratuator, which surprise. I thought he was going to
be higher up on the defensive end rotation. They really
believe this Tyler Barron kid, I guess, which I didn't
see a lot from yesterday. So let's see if the
rookie turns into something but a right. A couple of
things here, A couple of things here, d n Y

(23:58):
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Let's friggin go, yeah, baby, A five pack of boy
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Speaker 4 (24:14):
We're the freaking New York Jets. So we're built for
this shit.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm straight baby. By the way, at the start of
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(24:40):
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you have fourteen raffle tickets so far this month, so
I appreciate you. And yeah, I appreciate you also. I
just want to throw this out there real quick. I
know we have another super chat up comments to get to.

(25:00):
I just want to make this clear. Over the weekend,
if you guys go to the Jets Cowboys game, you
should have received your tickets and a lot of you
accepted them. However, there was a glitch with the system
and some of the tickets that were sent out got
reverted back to me. So I will be redoing that today.
So just some of the people that are coming to

(25:21):
our boy green tailgate for Week five Jets Cowboys. I say,
I've got a few responses. I'll get back to you. Promise.
We sent out a bunch of the tickets. Actually, I
mean we sent all the tickets and like half of
them got claimed and accepted, half of them reverted back.
Ticket Master had some sort of an issue and I
was trying to deal with that yesterday. So for anyone
that did not get their tickets, be on the lookout today.

(25:45):
As soon as you get them, you have to do
two things. Accept them in your email and then you
have to add them to your wallet so you have
them for game days. So no matter what the Wi
Fi situation is, it'll be on your phone for game days.
So again, and de wife Life, I know you're one
of So so everybody, two things. I'm gonna send out
those tickets back again today. You should get those tickets.

(26:06):
Number one, accept them from your email, and then number two,
add them to your wallet. So I apologize. Ticket Master
had an issue, and like I said, it was on
the phone with Ticketmaster. Yes, there was a whole thing.
So they had some sort of a glitch in their system.
I guess that happened, so we'll try to fix that
for the future. But let's go to Troy Sturgis here,
who says Justin Fields is our guy. Hell yeah is, baby,

(26:28):
that's something that feel good about. Wow, that is the
most encouraging thing I think yesterday. No moral cookies, as
you know, no moral victories, cookies, all that jazz. Aaron
Glenn said that, But there are things you can take away.
And boyfessin Field is gonna play like this. Wait, that's
gonna fire your right up as it should. And that's

(26:50):
some pretty exciting stuff. If you are a Jets van Troy,
you already have one raffle ticket to our contest or
a dollar away from another one. And we'll keep your
guys chats and comments and everything flowing here shortly and
I'll get to more of your super jets. But let's
bring in our special guest here on a Monday for
our first overreaction Monday after a Jets game. It is

(27:10):
none other than beat reporter from Jets x factor dot
com and our head architect for the Rivendealo Press, that
is Nick Ferry. A baby, what's up? Nick?

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Paul's strange, very strange lost sacks and seeing Aaron Rodgers
dancing around that that's that's angering and I want to
go see my therapist about it.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
But then there's some positives to take and there's a
lot of negatives to take. So there's a lot to unpack,
and I guess you're my therapist today, Nick Farya, Well,
I think.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
There's a lot more positives than negatives coming off a
game like that. First off, we have to recognize that
Pittsburgh was a playoff team last year and upgraded in
certain positions. They upgraded at receiver, they upgraded at corner,
and they upgraded at quarterback. I mean Russell Wilson. You
look at what he was with the Giants yesterday, just awful, awful,
off awful. And then they upgrade with Aaron Rodgers. So

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Pittsburgh upgraded from a playoff team from a year ago
just with the overall talent, and New York took it
to him. First off, the defensive line, which I think
gets sort of glossed over because the secondary played poorly,
had a very good game. The run defense was a
lot better than it has been in recent years. The
run fit the scheme, it looked better. Will McDonald had

(28:24):
a big game. Jermaine Johnson, great to see him back
out there. Quinn Williams I thought had his best game
in a year. I mean he was unblockable at times
throughout the contest. So great stuff along the defensive line.
Then you turn to the offense and there's really not
much we complain about here. First off, Justin Fields had
a career day. I don't think I've ever seen the

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quarterback look better in his entire career, any game his
entire career. I thought that was his best game overall.
You look at Garrett Wilson one hundred yard day, Breise
Hall fantastic, The offensive line was just mowing people down,
and then I think we need to all so give
the flowers to tenor Angstra. He was probably the big
question mark of this coaching staff because he had never

(29:07):
called plays before. You never really saw him in that situation.
But quite frankly, he looked fantastic. He absolutely looked fantastic.
You put up thirty points against that defense with a
Defensive Player of the Year candidate, with multiple All pros,
with multiple Pro Bowl players, and you put up thirty
two points, clearly should have won the game. That was
as good as you could possibly ask for in a debut,

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and again they didn't win the game. Yes, there are
no moral victories, but for a team that won just
five games the year prior, where they looked disinterested in
most of them, that was a very big step forward.
I really do believe that there's a lot of other issues.
Xavier Gibson, should he be allowed to be on the
team anymore? The secondary? What kind of changes will that

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look like? All of that used to be taken into
an account. I get it, But from a vacuum of
what we expect going into the right regular season, we
should assume this defense will improve. They're too talented not
to improve. The offense. Being this good early is a
great sign, not just for this season, but for the
future of the franchise as well.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
All right, so there's lots of unpacked there. From your answer,
we'll get into all of that. Well, let's start off here.
There's a super check coming in from lou B. Super jetsman.
Got it, lou B, you got three raffle ticket store contests.
That game was insane and it absolutely was. That's what
Aaron Glenn and Mike Toma both said when they walked
up They're like, whoa Like that was wild and it was.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
Week one changes. Week one has some weird performances and.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Boy did they We'll talk about some of those. I'm
sure he said, how could they be so bad against
the pass? This needs to be fixed or we are doomed.
Jamal Pritchett and Andrea Cisco shoe return kick. So a
lot of t unpack here, So let's go one by one.
I want to start with Brandon Stevens because so brand
Stevens gets signed Je Fridgs like boom terrible. At AG,
he's like, hey, hold on, now he's got the trades.

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And then in camp a few people including Jack Rodgblud,
said wow, he was the player of camp, Like he
was absolute and he was spectacular. And then we go
to week one and he looked at a position. There
was all kinds of issues with Brandon Stevens. So I
turned this to you overreaction Monday. Is it time to
immediately bench Brandon Stevens as the CB two for the

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New York Jets.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
No, it's not, because this is we're getting two overreaction here. Listen,
he had a bad game. He slipped and fell a
couple of times the one touchdown to Scornic, you'd see
the play he felt and that's unfortunately that will sometimes
happen to the corner. And it wasn't a good game
for him. No one's gonna sugarcoat it saying that it was.
Michael Carter also had a bad game. Andre Cisco was bad.

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Tony Adams I thought arguably was the worst player on
the defense in that entire game. He just missed a
bunch of tackles, wasn't where he needed to be, and
just quite frankly, wasn't good enough. The only player that
I thought played at an elite level yesterday and the
second with Sauce Garter, and he looked like the Sauce
of old. I mean this guy. Anytime he was put
up against DK Metcalf, he locked him down. That was

(32:08):
a sensational first game from Sauce Gardner. And that's kind
of why I look and say, okay, well, listen, Brandon
Stevens was bad, Michael Carter was bad, The safeties were bad.
Are they going to be bad for a full sixteen
from reigning games? The benefit of the doubt is with
Aaron Glenn, with Steve Wills, probably not it's never always

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as bad. It's never always as good as it is
in Week one. We have to remember Week one is
the biggest sort of tease on the face of the planet.
If we go based on Week one results, Danny dives
Daniel Jones is an MVP candidate. It's not going to happen.
The Colts, in my opinion, are not going to be
that good this year. But Daniel Jones is not a
very good quarterback. I don't see him saving his career

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in Indianapolis. With a lack of overall weapons both on
offensive defense. Week one is a massive overreaction forever. That
includes Jets players who don't exactly have the best game
in their debut. Now, there are some differences, there are
some distinct opportunities there to make improvements, make changes. I
think one is certainly a kick returner because you cannot

(33:14):
have Xavier Gibson be in that particular role anymore. And
I understand Iguanoo got hurt so he was sort of
forced into that situation. But I would rather see Aaron
Smith in that role in Xavier Gibson. That's just what
I would rather see right now, because Gibson hasn't done
anything he didn't do anything in training camp, and he
hasn't done really anything since his miraculous touchdown in his

(33:35):
first NFL game. So I'm not as I'm not as
doom and gloom on the secondary as many people are,
mostly because it's Week one and you played a quarterback
that wanted to kick your ass. We need to remember that.
As the other point to this, Rogers wanted to come
in and light it up against the Jets. That was
always going to be on the table because it's Rogers.

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Doesn't matter if he's forty one, doesn't matter if he
can move out of the pocket. He is still Aaron Rodgers.
He can still throw the football and you saw that yesterday.
So I think this group is going to be a
lot better as the season progresses. They are trying to
marry a zone and a man based concept, so that
will of course take time. It's just something that fans
need to understand. Listen, the lost hurts one hundred, but

(34:21):
is this the end of the world. Is this really
a sign that we're going to be in the same
old Jets. Probably not, and you just see the fight
from the team that shows that exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
So let's go to the Xavier Gibson thing. Should Xavier
Gibson be cut today?

Speaker 7 (34:39):
I don't. I don't. I wouldn't say cut because I
think they value him as a punt returner, but certainly
taken off of duties on kickoff because it's just it's
not good enough.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well what's so let me ask you this, So what's
the difference of kickoff or punt or this or that?
Because like, if you can't trust him in one, I
bet you can't trust him in the other.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
The the trajectory of the ball as it comes off
of t compared to coming off of foot with that
kicking motion punt it is different. Maybe they want to
give them all pritch It a try, give him a
run through, but it's hard for me to say. When
Aaron Glenn spoke immediately after cuts where they chose Gibson
over pritch It and he essentially said, there were other

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things we were looking at in training camp that showed
that Gibson was just a more consistent returner. He caught
punts cleanly, and that's the big thing that we're looking for.
That's kind of where I'm like, do you give him
only one week punt return wise and then just throw
them to the side because of kickoffs. Two different things here,
two different ways. The ball's coming out.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Help us with this, Solubi, and thank you for the
super Gedti. Also through like Andrean, Cisco's a possibility you
were there at training camp, who were especially Canaan Iguana.
We don't know the injury status of him, and so
that chest beats off the board at least for now.
Who else was returning kicks during camp? Who is even
in the conversation you brought up Brian Smith, We saw
him yesterday. You have Xavier Gibson. Obviously we talked about

(36:05):
Jamal Pritcher's on the practice squad. Who else is in
that conversation on this team that's even eligible for this position?

Speaker 7 (36:12):
I think that's about it. Really. The people that we
the people that we saw throughout camp, those are kind
of the name Cisco, Pritchett, Gibson. I think they tried
out they tried out Smith a little bit, but I
think he's more of a kick returner than a punt returner.
It really just it just it comes down to their
overall preference and it comes down to Glenn. Now, Glenn's

(36:33):
statement yesterday on if you are going to hurt this
team in any way with turnovers and penalties. That was
a very significant statement, and I'm interested to see what
exactly comes of that, if that means Gibson gets cut
after one week, or if it just means that they
keep him as a punt returner and that's it. Maybe

(36:53):
that's part of the consideration. But Glenn's statement of if
you cannot play for us, if you're gonna hurt us
like that sort of talking not just about the turnover
but the penalties as well. Because seven penalties are seventy four,
it's not as bad as it once was. But certainly
there were some really really dumb penalties for some really good,
great players too. I mean Quincy Williams hitting a player
laid out of balance was inexcuseable. You essentially give him

(37:15):
him fifteen yards of free money. Brandon Stevens had a
couple of times I thought one he got he got
screwed over, but he also got a bailout call on
that on that third down and long. It just it
just wasn't good from the players that needed to step
up in that way.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Quincy like, what an idiot, I'm like, so you see
the play like it's gonna be a negative loss. Steelers
make a toss to the left. The Steelers runbacks like,
obviously there's nothing here. I'm getting pushed down and Quinchy's
seven yards out of bats like boh yeah yeah, And
I'm like, what what the hell? I'm like, what's going on?
Like that wasn't even remotely closed. Sometimes you get the

(37:53):
edge of the sideline, ooh, my quarterback skirt the sideline,
ooh what are you having?

Speaker 7 (37:56):
A Couple of times happened with fields actually got hit
but yeah, still in bounds, so yeah, play, but right,
that one was just excusable. And he did kind of
make up for it with the sack later in the game,
and he's look, he's a great player. He's still a
great player. He looked really good yesterday. I would say
every part of the Jets team looked great except for

(38:18):
two spots, kick return and the secondary yesterday minus Sauce card.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Well, let's uh, we can't get away from Xavier Gibson
just yet. We got a super chet coming in from
Dick Chimney's burner and h he's not happy. Wow on
our super chat coming in, he says, are you going
to hostage one? Whole roster spot for just contribution from
pumpker Journey's he's mentioning that on Xavier Gibson, Well.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
They did last year. I mean, for my correct if
I'm correct and saying he wasn't always the kick returner
last year. I'm trying to remember that off the top
of my head.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
But I think the only thing is I don't know.
He definitely didn't play nearly as much. So we have
twenty three and twenty four now he's in his third year.
Twenty three he played a lot more on offense and
he did in twenty four right because of the injuries. Correct,
And again it's.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
It really is going to come down to Glenn and
his decision making. Now he talks in a couple of hours,
so we'll sort of get a gauge on what exactly
the thought process is there, and we'll also see what's
going on with Kenny Iguana, because he's an all pro
kind of returner who was unable to return to this game.
So it's just a matter of if Glenn is true

(39:26):
to his comment on you cannot play for us if
you're hurting the team in any way when it comes
to turnovers and penalties, that could mean Gibson gets cut.
It could, but it's very rare to see a player
get cut after one weak. That's essentially my point.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
All right, yea fair enough. Let me ask you this
because this one slipped under the radar naturally, and it
happens right before the game, and then the game happens.
There's all these storylines, so I was paying attention to
the inactives. Hev said, Hey, Paul, we want you to
write something as soon as the inactives are done. I'm like,
all right, we'll see what happens. And then I see
Alan Lazard and I'm like, Alan Lazard, he wasn't hurt.

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Aaron Glenn actually made it a point to say, hey,
he's fully healthy, ready to go, and he's a healthy scratch.
Does this put his future in question? Because you would
think that the only reason you wouldn't have done something
before the game is because you wouldn't want Alanizard to
run over to Pittsburgh and spill any trade secret. So
is this just one week thing and it was a

(40:24):
roster decision they wanted this receiver over this receiver, or
does this mean Alanzard's time of the Jets are done?

Speaker 7 (40:29):
That's a great question, and quite frankly, we just don't
know yet. They can't they the Jets hold things close
to the chest at least this regime does. But kind
of makes sense for them to just move on, right
I mean, blizarre. It's not like he costs so much
to cut at this point, and you're probably not going
to get anything from him in a trade at this
point after week one and listen, we talked about the

(40:52):
Steelers being an easy choice and easy decision. Calvin Austin
was fantastic yesterday for them. Scarnic was great for them.
If those two guys are stepping up, where's the spot
for Allen Lazard to play in Pittsburgh? Very frankly, I
just don't think there's room anywhere right this point for
the Jets to field Lazard on the roster at this point,
because he's a veteran that's essentially making what two to

(41:15):
three million dollars? What's he doing being a healthy and
active I mean, you have Josh, you have Zach, you
have Josh Reynolds, you have Tyler Johnson. These guys are
somewhat similar to what Lazar can bring in terms of blocking,
in terms of getting downfield there's really no point to
putting Lazard on this team if you're not going to

(41:35):
play him. I think the best course of action is
probably just to cut your losses, cut him and move
forward with one of these other wide receivers. Maybe there
is a path to pritch it being called up to
the fifty three man roster, and not because of Xavier
Gibson's release, but maybe because of Allen Lazard's release after.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
All this, which again that could make sense certainly by
the way I see, we have Bmac, he's in the chad,
and of course a drag from the whole Aaron Rodgers thing.
We just set a goal on YouTube. If we get
one super Chet for twenty dollars or more, we're sending
bbacks ass to the grinder Penny. So you know what,
if you've had enough of beback, then we will talk

(42:12):
to him from the YouTube realm for the next twenty
four hours. If someone wants to cop up a twenty
dollars super Jet, that goal was just posted on YouTube,
so guys, so leave it in your hands if that's
something that you want. While we're waiting for that potential
to occur, I want to go to you with this Nick,
because I think the greatest silver lining, whatever we want

(42:34):
to call it, is that some of us believe that
Justin Fields is indeed our quarterback. So let me go
to you, Nick, Farya, He's just a Fields on Fritschist quarterback.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
Way too early to make that assessment, way too early.
And again it's man, it's week one. This is the
greatest overreaction week of the NFL season because we just
don't know, and quite frankly, with Justin Field, he showed
everything in that game that the Bears, that the Steelers

(43:06):
had been begging for for four years now. The question
is when they played the remaining parts of their schedule,
was that just a flash in the pan or is
that actually what he can become and not just be
a one game wonder. He hasn't shown really anything throughout
his career that he's been able to play consistently, so

(43:27):
I can't in good conscious make the declaration that he
is one hundred percent the guy for the Jets moving forward.
It's one week. Ryan Leaf looked great for two weeks
with the San Diego Chargers and then became one of
the biggest draft busts in NFL history. It happens like
these early season successes don't always end up being that way,

(43:50):
and that's kind of why I say it's never always,
you know, that great, it's never always that bad. It's
somewhere in the middle. I think Justin Fields can be
a very serviceable starting quarter for the Jets. Can he
be the kind of franchise quarterback the team needs. He's
gonna have to show that level of consistency moving forward,
but for the first time in four years, he showed
he can do it. And that's a major, major step forward,

(44:12):
a massive confidence boost for this team. Quite frankly, if
he plays like that and Tedda Einstrand's calling an offense
like this Jet's figure out their secondary, that's a playoff team.
They are significantly better than people expect them to be.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, it certainly felt that way again. The running the football,
of course, he's averaged fifty yards rushing a game throughout
his career, so having basically fifty yards rushing, okay, that
part should have surprises. He's dynamic in that way. The
passing there is just a confidence there. There was a
decisiveness and this ended up hurting him, which is sort
of funny how it all comes around. During the game.

(44:48):
There's a few times so the pocket breaks down whatever
progressions he went through, He's like, oh, shoot, nothing's there,
and he went to run, and I'm like, all right,
here we go. We're off to the races. We're off
to the green prairie grass in front of you. And
instead of just booking running it and tucking it, he
can't continue to keep his eyes down the field and
he found multiple throws Garrett Wilson, Tyler Johnson. There were

(45:09):
several times he made something out of nothing, and I
said to myself, because it was being livestream miss, I'm like, wow, okay,
I would have not thought. I thought Jesse Fidz would
just book it and run ran. Interesting. Of course, we
go to the end of the game. On the fourth
and three, he ran and had all kinds of green
grass in front of him, but he kept his eyes
downfield and he could have easily had the first down,

(45:29):
but he said, ooh, Garrett, and he threw it to him.
It gets broken up, and you know, it's hard to
blame him for trusting his number one wide receiver and
all that, but the green grass was in front of him,
So it seems like that part of it. Nick has
to be a bit of a balance to take what's theara,
especially in key situation's like that on fourth down. But
also there was a lot of good from earlier in
the game, So I don't want to just say, hey, no,
you shouldn't be doing that when it worked for most

(45:51):
of the game.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
Well, I also don't want it. He made the decision
to throw to Garrett. Garrett was open on that particular play.
He catches the football, the drive still moving. Who knows,
maybe the Jets end up winning that game. He made
the decision to throw and it was the right read.
So I'm not going to get him again on him
for that. And again, like I said, he looked like
a competent starting quarterback really for the first time in
four years. Like, let's be fair about this. He won

(46:14):
from the pocket yesterday more so than running around and
making plays with his legs and doing all those different things.
So I think it was a fantastic first step. I
thought yesterday showed a lot of what they could be,
that partnership between fields and tenor Engstrand, and certainly this
offense could be an extremely fun watch forout the rest

(46:34):
of the year. It's just a matter of I need
to see that more going forward, because as good as
Fields was today or assuming yesterday, I want to be
able to see that again in week two, Week three,
week eight, and then later on in the year as well.
That stability is going to be the big questionnaire. Okay,
he can have a really good game here, now let's
see him build up with that with more games going forward.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Fair enough, Let's got another super shet in here from
Florid La ly Wrah Wow. Relax its week one and
you could take this most in a positive and negative way.
One player may be overreacting to it and saying, wow,
that looks really good. And then on the other hand,
one player perhaps performing poorly. But let's definitely give credit
for that here, Nick, we haven't talked a lot about

(47:17):
it so far, but we should. Oh my goodness, two
things here. The Jets' ability to run the football down
the steeler's throat was incredibly encouraging, and like I said,
how could it not be based on that performance? Here
were the final stats rushing wise, the Jets ran the
ball thirty nine times for one hundred and eighty two
rushing yards four point seven per clip and three touchdowns.

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On the other side, they controlled the line of scrimmage.
The Steelers ran the ball twenty times for fifty three
yards two point seven per clip, and the rookie running
back finished with negative rushing yards. Wow. What a seismic
shift in both perspectives, because the Jets sucked at running
the football and couldn't stop it, noticably defending it one
week relax its week one for Lily, but holy that

(48:00):
was impressive.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
Well, let's also give our flowers to talk about fields
having a great day tenor ringstraand we need to talk
about Arma Membu here, guys. I mean, seriously, you're going
up against a defensive player of the year, going up
against the defensive player of the year, one of the
best modern edg rushers in NFL history, going into the
Hall of Fame, and he shut him down At the

(48:23):
biggest play TJ. Watt made, the runner didn't even have
the ball, didn't even have the ball. Arma Membu put TJ.
Watt in a blender yesterday that in and of itself
should have Jet fans ecstatic. The Jets essentially said, we're
gonna run away from TJ. Watt, We're gonna run behind
Oliver Shanta, We're gonna run behind John Simpson and it

(48:45):
worked every single time. That was a fantastic performance from
member in the entire offensive line to show that this
is sustainable. This group specifically is sustainable. Hitman Josh Myers
had great days. T J Watt having zero sacks, zero pressures,

(49:07):
zero quarterback hits is an insane statistic when you think
about his overall career. That was a fantastic, fantastic performance
from Membo and again though probably the worst two pass
blockers yesterday were Simpson and for Shana. For Shao gave
up the only sack, and they had good games. In
my opinion, they were just mauling people on the run.

(49:28):
So the way that I looked at it, the offensive
line was fantastic, but you have to get the flowers
to Membo. He pitched a fantastic game in his first
start against one of the best head rushers in football.
You could not have asked for a better debut.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah, look at that. It was a terrific for armand
memboo again and it's fun again. I talked about it
earlier before you got on Nick that it's interesting narrative.
So you talk about players that performed great in camp
or terrible in camp, and then some of the opposite
happened there and Memboo Connor Hughes, for instance, as one
I heard on the Jets Final Drive show after heading

(50:04):
into the season. On their first show, he was like, boy,
I'm very concerned about Arman Membu with how he looked
against Kemon Timbeau practice and his perspective covering both Jets
and Giants. He said, Kevin Dibbodeo is a fine player,
but nothing special. And he was slapping around armand Memboo
and he said, oh, boy, concerned. And Zach Rosblett's like,
I don't think it was that bad. And now he
get to the game and look at that. That was

(50:26):
very very impressive. So big shout out there to armand Memboo.
All right, we got plenty of super chats coming in.
Let's go to t Rivera here he's up next, and
who would have thought the Jets offense scores thirty two points?
So we're like, oh, if you tell me that before
the game, whoa A right? Pretty good?

Speaker 7 (50:46):
Yeah, not good enough to win, But it just goes
back to you had a quarterback. Both quarterbacks were having
revenge games, and I think that's the best way to
really describe it. Justin Fields wanted to prove to Pittsburgh
that he could be a starting quarterback and Aaron Rodgers
wanted to prove the Jets wrong for reasons. I'm still
unclear of what exactly Aaron Rodgers was upset about, other

(51:07):
than the fact that they just said, listen, we want
to do this a little bit differently. They tried to
do that as professional as they could. They brought him
over to his and he still wasn't happy about it.
If they did it in a call or a text,
he would have been pissed, And the fact that they
did it in general still made him upset. So Rogers
can be upset. He got the win. That's all that

(51:28):
matters to him. That's all that matters at the end
of the day. But I thought this is a very
impressive start for the Jets under the Aaron Glenn era.
Still things to fix, still things to figure out. But
the heart that they showed, the fight that they showed,
I thought was more than we had seen under Robert
Sala throughout his entire tenure.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah, t Rivera, the two dollars, super catching thirty four
points is bad for the defense, a plus for the
four touchdowns on offense and Justin Fields he didn't want
to talk about it too much, but after the game
he goes like, you know, like you guys didn't expect this,
and he was talking about all the Hall of Famers,
just talking about the Steelers defense, and like, oh boy,
Justin Fields can't hit the broadside of a barn. And

(52:07):
then look at all this seventy three percent completion percentage,
the same completion percentage Aaron Rodgers had, so like, you know,
the offense and that was and I was saying, I
was like in disbelief in the live stream, going, oh
my god, a competent offense, touchdowns, field goals, Boyd's boys,
Boyd's Okay, that felt pretty damn good. That's for dang. Sure.
Show shout out there to t Rivera. We have another

(52:29):
one here, and oh boy, Nick, you're catching the fire
of the people and they're not very happy. So let's go.
Do I believe in freedom?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Here we go with the negative. To be honest, I
can't stand very Jesus, why are you taught or what
are you talking about? I assume is what he's saying
how many times did you see Fields play?

Speaker 7 (52:49):
I'm a little confused of what's the issue here? I
said he had a great game. There's really nothing more
to it. If he was a competent quarterback, he wouldn't
be on his third team in three years. We need
to see that consistency moving forward. I don't think that's
really outlandish to say.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
So what do you So let's let's say this right
so again week one. You're right, I'm sort of overreacting
calling him our franchise quarterback. And who knows what I
could be saying next week? But what do you need
to see just like rinse and repeat this same sort
of performance again and again and again? And how often
do you have to see it before you're like, okay,
wait a second, here, there's something different. This is not
just week one where weird shit happens like oh okay,

(53:27):
justin Fields is everything that Aaron Glenn and said they
said they they said about him where they're like, hey man,
there's something here, there's untapped potential. We're gonna tap it.
Obviously they did here a week one. How many more
weeks do you need to see before you're like, okay,
there's something legitimate here.

Speaker 7 (53:41):
I think I think you need to say. First off,
what I'm looking for is that consistency from the pocket,
the fact that he was able to step up and
make plays with his arm, and as you said, Paul,
when he was moving, he was looking to throw, he
wasn't looking to run. That's a clear distinction, that's a
mindset distinction that has sort of changed with justin Fields
from that particular game on Sunday throughout the rest of

(54:02):
throughout the previous four years of his career. And then
really it just comes down to consistency for the whole year.
Can he be this quarterback in November? In December? Can
he be safe with the football up until the later parts.
He's never played a full seventeen game season either. We
need to make sure that he's going to be healthy
enough to be able to do that as well, and
by being a sort of I don't want to say

(54:23):
pocket passes because he's clearly not a pocket passer, but
being someone who's advantageous throwing the football from the pocket
and being healthy enough to do it for fifteen sixteen
seventeen games, that's got to be the distinction here. That's
got to be the focus. If he's looking like this
in November, that's a massive, massive, huge discreptancy, a huge
change in what the Jet's going to be looking for

(54:45):
at quarterback. But again, the first month of the season,
you talk to any coach, you talk to any player,
you talk to any scout. The first month isn't necessarily
where you earn your contracts. It's in November. It's in
October when everything is sort of in a wall. You're
trying to to figure out who you are as a
team and trying to build that identity and then building
it off from there.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
All right, again, which figuring Nick Ferry or beat reporter
from Jets x factor dot com. Also the Riverdale Press
will open up the phone lines in just a few
moments here. But there's a few other players I want
to pick your brain about here, Nick Brice Hall with
the the demise of Brie Saw was greatly exaggerated. Apparently
running the football, catching the football. Wow, he just looked

(55:26):
like a much different player here in Week one than
we saw last year.

Speaker 7 (55:29):
Yeah, and I think he's healthy. Number one. He wasn't
healthy last year, which is which is a big distinction.
The offensive line was opening up huge holes, but when
they weren't, that's where you saw the greatness of Hall.
There was a couple of times where Pittsburgh seemed to
have him bottled up, and it could have been a
three yard loss, could have been a two yard loss,
line of scrimmage, those types of things, and he made
a play out of it. So the way that I

(55:51):
look at it, it's one of those things where Hall
in a contract year, and again it's a contract year, but
he plays like that he is going to be very,
very handsomely paid, whether by the Jets or another team.
But that's the kind of game that really kind of
looks and tells Jets fans, Hey, this offense can be
a lot of fun if we get if we keep

(56:12):
this play calling quarterback due a.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Working Yeah you think so. Again, it was really exciting
there for brief. Sorry again, Nick, I don't want to overreact,
even though that's what this Monday overreacting show is sort
of all about. But Will McDonald is on pace for
thirty four sacts, which would sack the single season sack
record of all time. So will McDonald on fire to

(56:36):
start this deed to Nickaria.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
You look at the tape, it was absolutely fantastic from him, him,
Jermaine Johnson, Quinnin Williams, Harrison Phillips I thought had a
very good day. And listen, we talked about this before
the season started. Everyone was worried about the run defense
because well they didn't really they don't really have any
run stuffing defensive ends. But I thought the front four
were fantastic yesterday. They really were. They set the line

(56:58):
of scrimmage. Well, Pittsburgh didn't really have a lot of
success running the football. Maybe that was because Aaron Rodgers
just wanted to sling it up and down the field,
whatever it was. But from a schematic standpoint, that defensive
line was significantly better than anything we saw last year.
McDonald was great. Jermaine Johnson I thought was very very good.
And like I said, Quentin Williams, you can't ask so

(57:18):
much more than what he did yesterday. He had the
sack that opened the game, had a couple of big
time plays, could have had a second sack as well,
had another pressure on a throwaway. That defensive line, if
they play like that, eventually the coverage is going to
figure it out. Early in Week one, you either get
one of two things. The defense is head of the
offense or vice versa. With a new coaching staff where

(57:41):
the head coach is a man based guy and a
defensive coordinator who's his zone based guy, there's going to
be some distinction. There's going to be some struggles early on.
It's about getting past that and moving forward and building
it in a way that's going to be successful moving
forward throughout the year. That defensive line plays as well
as it did yesterday, I think this defense will still
be very, very good throughout the year.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
All right, Well, one last question that will open up
the phone lines. Let's look ahead. First place is on
the line baby. In the AFSE East. Next week, the
New York Jets and the Buffalo Bills face off at
home at Mettlife Stadium. And while the Bill's got that
crazy ass win or what a game that was on
Sunday Night football, but the Bill's got the win, and
that's what we're all talking about. For me, I'm like

(58:23):
that run defense and the Buffalo Bills gave up twenty
nine carries for two hundred and thirty eight yards and
three touchdowns. If I'm the Jets, I'm tick in my
shots and said, sure, Bills, you want to know and
winning the game is most important. But Jets. Everyone knew
in the Steers game the Jets are gona run the football,
and it didn't matter. They punched the stewards in their
mouth all over the plays. If I'm the Jets are

(58:45):
gonna at Bills run defense, I think the Jets should
be very encouragededing it to that Week two matchup.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Nick.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
They've got the edge in that particular case being able
to run the football, and Buffalo's had some run stopping
problems even going back to last year's playoff runt. They
really couldn't stop Kansas City He's rushing attack. They couldn't
stop Baltimore's. I looked at I looked at it very
simply as Listen, they're not going to be favored, and
most people will expect that Buffalo will be able to

(59:10):
come in and win that game in that life. But
if there's a way to pull off an upset, that's
the way to do it. Control the line of scrimmage offensively,
get some pressure on Josh Allen, and for the love
of God, someone figure out how to stop anyone outside
of Sauce Gardener on the opposite side of the field.
It really got to a point where Aaron Rodgers was saying, Okay,
I have DK Metcalf's he going up against Sauce Gardener. No, great,

(59:34):
we're gonna throw on the ball. If not, we're gonna
throw to somebody else. And that's really what it comes
down to. And when you have that, it's great. You
have an all pro kind of corner, but you need
to make sure that other side of the field is
secure as well. So it'll be interesting to see the
adjustments that Wilkes makes, because I do think there are
adjustments there to make this defense a lot better and
can be better.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Kick Hey, Paul, Hey, Nick. First of all, Paul, you
did a good job yesterday on the play by play.
Very good, very good. And I had a good time
watching the show with you guys, with everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
The other thing Nick, I was hoping to see are
that long Bowl Darrian Smith yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
I was looting for it all day. I was for
it all day. Listen. They wanted to go with the
veteran round. Rookies didn't really get a lot of playing
time at all, Mason Taylor at one target one. Yeah,
so we'll see if that continues. I'm sure they'll get
more chances as they go on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, what do you think about substituting getting a rookie
in there? Instead of Adams. I was really disappointed in
his play yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
I think it's too early to make those kind of changes.
I think they want to see the adjustments. It's very
very rare that you see in coaching staff make sweeping
changes to a secondary or special teams after one week.
They always try to give them some time, get them
some acclamation. And again, like I said, they're sort of

(01:02:02):
marrying two different schemes right now, so there is going
to be some complex questions and some complex communication that's
going to need to be brought in, and maybe the
rookies aren't ready for again, it may be a little
too advanced at this point right now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I was thinking to myself at the beginning of the season,
I said, I don't know how many wins we're going
to get, but no one's gonna want to play the
New York yet after this.

Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
Yeah, that game, that game told you a lot, and again,
you won five games last year. So I think we
need to be a little fair on the expectations of
what this team is supposed to be. If they come
out here and win seven games, but every game is
competitive and they're fighting with every single game, and they
lose like eighty five scores or five points or less.

(01:02:47):
I think they're going to be moving in the right direction.
That kind of thing they showed, that kind of fight
that they did yesterday, I think it's very clear that
they've got the right coaching staff in place.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Thanks, guys, appreciate it. Thank you the kind words.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I see Jojo said the same thing. I guess we're
gonna have to bring the watch party back next week.
Five hours of live streaming. Screw my family. I'm sorry.
The Jet fans need me more, apparently, so we'll figure
that out. Have more phone calls to come here on
the program. Let's go to it. The one and only
Chef Kevin Gilbert graces us with his presence.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Hey, good morning BG, Good morning Nick. Shout out to
the coffee club members. Shout out number one Austrian Jet
fan man, good to see you back, Hey man, it
was it was good to hear you yesterday, BG man.
You know after my son's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
When congratulations sweat twenty eight nothing right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Yeah, it's good memory man. Yeah. We beat up Mount
Vernon's eleven U team. We were over there. Field was
a muddy mess. We actually had three touchdowns come back
because of passing and the because of h what was
the block in the back. So I'm the skills coach,

(01:03:56):
so that was like dropping me crazy because it's my
wide receivers that and just let the cornerback go. They
had to literally push push Home boys in the back
while my running backs already running down the field. But
on a on another note though, I'm also in charge
of special teams, and we did three. We started off
the game by kicking the arm side kicking. We got

(01:04:17):
it and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Wait, did anyone fumble during the game.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Our team? Yes, but we got the ball back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
It was much did you kick that player off the
team or what hand that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Now? A little little uh? We actually gave the ball
to him again on the next play or whatever and
did pretty good and then we pulled him to the sideline.
Then I you know, had had a word or two
with him. But it's like, you know, encouraging stuff. Man.
It's like when when we're dominating the way we are, man,
it's like, you know, of course you want to say like, hey,
we got to clean things up and whatnot, but you

(01:04:52):
also got to like celebrate the wins as well to
you know, boost the confidence the morale.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Maybe that's what gets man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Don't get me started with him. Man, it's a you know,
so it's so unfortunate. Man, like seeing the rise that
that nine to eleven. I was there to to, you know,
to see where it's become now and it's it's pretty clear. Man,
anybody who wants Gibson to have, you know, have another shot. Man,
he needs to be checked for drugs. Man, Like, at

(01:05:22):
this point, I don't understand, like, you know what what's
going on. You know, the guy has a family and
all that. You know, we get it. But at my
at my job, if I'm messing up, if I'm you know,
not doing my job, I don't expect to have a
job anymore. Man. So it's like, you know, I get
ball security. You know he did cash the ball. He
had it in his right arm. But then when you're
going to the left sideline, you gotta you gotta switch it.

(01:05:44):
You gotta switch it up. You can't leave it on
your right hand. Now you're exposed. Man, if it was
on the left side, if it was in your left hand, man,
they wouldn't been able to swipe it like that coming
across that come across your body. So you know it
was a lack of judgment, and immediately you saw him,
like you know, Pat himself saying, hey, you know that
was my fault, my bad and all that, which obviously
do we all know is your fall is nobody else's fault.

(01:06:05):
You're the one that's holding the ball in the wrong
hand and you know it came out. But you know
that's pretty obvious. Glenn has said it all preseason. Man, Nicky,
you heard this where it's just like, you know, he's
gonna hold people accountable. The mental mistakes. He's kept saying, yeah,
he's gonna clean it up. This and that penalties is ridiculous.
Seven to seven penalties seventy four yards. We talked about

(01:06:27):
mental mistakes, man, Aaron Glenn saying, yeah, we're gonna you know,
we're gonna fix this. He say he's gonna fix it
all preseason. I don't want to get on him, you
know it was the first time head coach. But if
you're gonna if you're gonna talk about mental mistakes and
you're gonna clean it up and you're going to all
people accountable, well we're gonna see it. We're gonna see
that stuff clean. Medicine cleaned up by the Bills because
the Bill's gonna play around. Man. They did leave up
the Bills did leave up a lot of points on

(01:06:47):
the board. But you know, we play them good at home.
We do we do, man. So the thing that I
did say last week, uh BG, was that I want
Pittsburgh to run the ball on us. I said, I
will afraid of the run. A lot of people was
looking at me crazy, but I did feel like I
did feel good with our front man, Jermaine Johnson. You know,

(01:07:09):
he he didn't fill up the stats, but listen, man,
I felt like he contributed. I felt like he held
the edge down pretty well. And he's just coming back
from from a year off, man, Like you know, a
year ago we was playing in San fran and then
you know, the Tennessee was whatever. But you know that
that was that he didn't he didn't see the field.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
So for now it's like, and I'm pretty sure that
was the intentional grounding play where Jermaine and Quinn were
on top of him and then Aaroners squeaks it out
and I'm looking around like, who the hell and then
the refs go talk talk talk. Yeah, she's pretty good now,
I will tell you I'm not listening to broadcast because
we're doing the live stream, but I'm like, what possible
explanation can.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
They have, Like, let's be okay, give it to me, Nick,
because again, the tackle box is very succinct. Even if
you get one foot off the tackle box, you can
throw it away and it's actually good. You saw him
just get a yard. I mean it was that close.
He got a yard past that that line, that imaginary lines.
And again I saw the reply went through it over

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the film this morning. It showed exactly that that was
the right call.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
There was no intention right the second, but damn it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
The secondary man, that's that was the most disappointing. You know, Sauce.
Sauce is my guy, man, I'm a big sawt a
believer in him, man. And it's just so Jets man
at the end of the game, man with uh that
miraculous whatever bouncing around that that metcalf got like he
was on the ground and just fell into his hands. Man, Like, yo,

(01:08:36):
how does that only us? Man? The only way we
can lose is just like the Jets away and it's
gonna be like this until we change it around. I
don't want to hear nobody saying, oh, it ain't the
same old Jets, Yo, this is the same old Jets.
This is how this is the dumb stuff that happens,
man like, and and and then we go for on
on on at the goal line, we go for it
for the two point conversion. Yeah, and we hit we

(01:08:57):
throw it a Garrett where there's like three dudes, like
I know, feels in a shocked And if you would
have took another step back and would have waited, Rutger
is coming across. Man, He's coming across from the left side.
He lined up on the left side and then he
sneaked across. Wait another second, man, you could you could
hit him across the flat. Man, Ruggs didn't drop him
a passag yesterday it looked good, Mason, nick, I agree with you,

(01:09:18):
man saying like, hey, you know, you know Mason will
come into his own with the rookies and all that,
but you know, we gotta we gotta look man like
Garrett seven seven catches. Man, I thought that was good.
Nine targets, you know, serviceable ninety five yards. He could
have had a second touchdown, So you know, it looked
pretty good. But then when you look at the complimentary
number two. We don't have that man like feels going

(01:09:39):
sixteen to twenty two. I liked him. Man, he ran
on the ground too, you know, the breeze haters. Man
Breese did his thing. Man just the Tanner man, just
being able to scheme up some stuff and like what
we all said, put him in space, man, Brailen Allen,
you know, it almost seems like predictable. Man. When you
put brailing in, it's like, all right, you're just gonna
half back dives running up right up the middle. Man,

(01:10:01):
Like what was it six six carries? I think nine
yards and and one of those characters for eight yards.
You know, he did get that touchdown, which was pretty
nice to see. But you know, it's it's it's the one.
It's the first game, man, it's the first game with
the new regime. BG. You were a little upset of
me last week, and I was like, when I predicted
Pittsburgh to win, and just because I predicted in the win,

(01:10:22):
I said it was gonna be a closed game. And
just because I predicted Pittsbordh win doesn't mean I was
rooting for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
It's like, you know, you are wooty out there for right, Nah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Man, you know we got we got other other other
clowns man that that are all about, you know, other
teams claiming their jet fans and whatnot. But you know,
for myself, it's just like we have a new head coach. Yeah,
there was some clock mismanaging. There was you know, some
certain areas and where you know we could improve on.
I'm gonna give Glenn Man the benefit of the doubt. Man.

(01:10:50):
It was a game where there's a lot of pressure
Game one with Rogers coming into the building. Like, you know,
there's a whole bunch of hoopla. Man. Now let all
this stuff settle down, you know, check the film, go over,
scheme up some different stuff. Like Nick, this is like
a serious question that I didn't really like know too well.
What kind of adjustments did you see in the second

(01:11:11):
half with our defense?

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
So really what it came down. Did they really wanted
to start in man for the most part, and then
they started going in zone. They had some success with that,
but then of course you go, it's Rogers. You're playing
a quarterback that has seen everything. So if they're in zone,
he called plays that could beat zone. If you're in man,
he called plays that could beat Man. There were sometimes
where the Jets defense got the better of them. They

(01:11:35):
got some sacks, they got some pressures. There are other
times where the forty one year old showed, hey, I
still got it. And that's going to happen in the
modern NFL. That's going to happen with some of these quarterbacks.
These some of these some living legends, if you will.
But again, I just want to make it very clear
when you look at this defense, this is going to

(01:11:56):
take time. This was always going to take time. Wilkes
and Glenn are two coaches that coach very similarly but
have two different styles. I mean, Wilkes has sort of
had to marry his defense to what other coaches have had.
He had to change his defense gematic when he was
in San Francisco. But by and large, you're essentially fitting

(01:12:18):
a man team with a zone coach and vice versa
and those kinds of things. So this will take time.
This will get better as the season goes on. Even
if it doesn't look good in Week one.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
I agree Man and that offense, Man, it definitely didn't
look like no Detroit Lions offense like golf, isn't running
around like how Fields is doing. The play's going outside, man,
like the quarterback read stuff. Like you know, I feel
really good in that old line man too, Like they
did that thing. Man, it's just that defense and you know,
getting a little together with the special teams. But Fields didn't,

(01:12:54):
you know, in my opinion, disappoint me at all. Like
the expectation is what it is with Fields, man, I
feel like, only it's only up from here with him,
get a little bit more comfortable with the offense, play calling,
knowing his personnel, who to look for at the right
time and all that. Like, I think it will come together.
It's just you know, as Jet fans managers don't get
all crazy and jump off a bridge right now just

(01:13:16):
off of one game, man, Like it's a long season.
You know, the expectations. If y'all having expectations of us
going deep in the playoffs, then you're only setting yourself up,
man for disappointment. Just know that there's gonna be some progression. Man,
They're gonna evaluate the talent and the next season where
we're going to see a big jump. But I appreciate
the work that you guys do. Man, I'm gonna get going.

(01:13:37):
I know there's other calls man, let's go, Jess.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
There is Chef Kevin Gilbert gracing us with his presence.
There you are, I see we have a super chat
shoutout coming in here from a man with rakeh. The
only Gibson I want has cocktail onions. Thank you man
with Rake for that. Go ahead, Nick, there's something you
want to after the chef call?

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
No, I think it's It just comes back to the
original points here. We want to overreact to every particular game.
We want to overreact to the good and the bad.
But quite frankly, this thing takes time, and most coaches
that I've spoken to, everyone says that the month of
September is sort of a glorified extension of the preseason.

(01:14:22):
No one is going to be at one hundred percent.
For the love of God, Joe Burrow yesterday went up
against the Cleveland Browns team that's supposed to be one
of the worst in the NFL and barely barely tweaked
it out by throwing one hundred and twenty yards. That's
one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, and you're
telling me that this guy can't throw for one hundred
and fifty. It took him that long for him to

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just get seventeen points. This happens, It just does, and
Jet fans will be upset because they want to see
this season start up correctly. But at the end of
the day, it's about what they're showing on tape, and
what they showed on tape is a team that is
willing to be one hundred, but it is willing to
fight going through every going forward, and now we need
to see some of the adjustments be made. That's the

(01:15:04):
next step of this process. It's about learning how to
win as an organization together.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
And it's so funny how the tone could have changed.
Chris Boswell hits a sixty yard field goal, which is
the longest of his career. He misses that Jets win,
and again we can only imagine what the conversation could
have should have would have been if that does indeed happen.
Let's finish off with a couple other phone calls. Johnny
boys up, next step, Johnny bg.

Speaker 8 (01:15:26):
Nick was going on, guys, blessed, blessed, you just just
hit it, bg. I was gonna say that it's that
field goals. How many people make a sixty yarder like that?

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
And the modern NFL now with them kicking their own balls,
I think it's gonna happen a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
All right, especially with the Owen balls rule. Aaron Glenn
talked about that in the post game. Yeah, there's a
new rule on that.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
It's I was like, I was like, man, this is
about to miss. We'll be all right. You know it's
fucking wrong, but you know, it is what it is.
I think for me, there's a lot more positive in
that game yesterday, right, A lot of individuals had first
and foremost Nick, you said it. Pittsburgh was a playoff
team last year. You know they got Rogers. I was

(01:16:09):
not impressed by Rogers at all and anything. I think
we beat ourselves. If I'm gonna be one hundred percent
honest with you, I do have to say, I mean,
he did what a vet does. He called the plays
on the line and was able to go ahead and
see what we were messing up. The communication between the
linebackers and the secondary.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
It was problems. It was issues.

Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
And I know people wanted to bench Steve Stevens and whatnot,
but if he would have bench Stevens right then and there,
who would have came in?

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Thomas was healthy up up to go, I guess, but
I mean what would.

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
Have been I wouldn't. I don't think A C. Thomas
is ready yet, and quite frankly, it did not look
good in training camp for him. So if we're if
we're being quite honest and we're going based off of
what they saw in camp, they made the right decision.
It's just that Stevens did not have a very good game.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
No he did not. But again, Tony Adams just looked
lost out there. These are things that you need to
be fixed. And you're going against a team like the
Bills next week where you have a quarterback like Josh
Allen that's not a mummy, So he's not going to
stay still back there the way Aaron Rodgers did. But

(01:17:26):
Fields look good Man. Fields was stepping up in the pocket.
Fields was able to.

Speaker 9 (01:17:32):
He saw the pressure right. He didn't just take off.

Speaker 8 (01:17:35):
He just started sliding to his left, sliding to the
right and was always looking down the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Field to trying to throw that ball.

Speaker 8 (01:17:41):
People were wanting last night to have him that last
play where he threw it to Garrett Wilson and Wilson
got crashed by Ramsey.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
They wanted him to run it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:52):
If he would have ran that ball, the linebackers were
closing on him so fast that he probably would have
not made the yard.

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
He would have gotten it. He would have gotten it,
because again I want to specify it. I don't think
he made the wrong call. He was looking to throw
all games. The fact of the matter is Wilson just
couldn't come up with it because of the hit from Ramsey.
It happens in games like this. But I wouldn't say
that Field made the wrong call at all because he
found someone who was open. It was open for half

(01:18:22):
a second, tried to get on the ball and it
just didn't work out. There's there's there's very little that
I can look at and say, well, Fields did this poorly,
Fields did that poorly. From yesterday, I thought he played
a near perfect game. I just want to see that
more often. I want to see that consistency moving forward
one hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:18:39):
I just you know, again, did Amon Rodgers last night
throw beyond fifteen yards?

Speaker 7 (01:18:48):
He had a couple, He had a couple of big plays.
I will say this, I think Rogers fantastic. Both quarterbacks
were fantastic. Yesterday, Rogers at the Rogers at the line
of scrimmage I thought was sensation for the most part.
And let's also be fair, uh, it could have easily
been a shorter field goal for Chris Boswall. That phantom
no call on Stevens on the fade route right before

(01:19:12):
the right before Boswell hit the sixteen. That was. That
was a very clear pass interpearits that was not called.
But again he also had a penalty where he was
called and I thought it was a bogus pi and
so it kind of evens out in that way. And
again it just didn't work out. But I thought, I
think we're not giving Rogers enough credit. I think he

(01:19:33):
was very very good in that game. And it kind
of showed where the minute a turnover happened, everyone sort
of went uh oh, and they scored two plays later.

Speaker 8 (01:19:44):
Yeah, I didn't see it, man, I'm I'm gonna be
honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Nick.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
I'm sorry, man, but I didn't. I just saw old
mummy there. That was if you had a Pop Warner
freaking quarterback back there could have thrown the ball to
your tight end. That was just drift think wide open
right over there, you know, and then you got Tonyam.
Michael Carter had a bad game. That's that's somebody that's

(01:20:07):
not being talked about enough to you know. I know
he's coming back from injury and everything, but he yeah,
he he did not not have a game again.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
But these are things that can be fixed.

Speaker 8 (01:20:19):
You know, these are things that they're gonna go back
look at the tape and see what's going on. I
think Sherwood needs to talk to the to the defense
and be like, this is on me because he was
supposed to shift a lot of the linebacking course, it
was so late and you could see it. When you
watch back the game, you're gonna be able to watch
it and say say, man, these are things that you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
I know CJ.

Speaker 8 (01:20:42):
Moseley was old and he couldn't really run as much,
but he would have been able to end game adjust
to what he was seeing out there. You know, he's
a voice that's that's maybe he's being missed on the
sideline right because he was a coach on there.

Speaker 9 (01:20:58):
But I don't know, man, it's a whole Johnny.

Speaker 7 (01:21:00):
The other is this, The other thing is this, and
this is where you're saying. This is where I say
Rogers is not as mobile as he once was. Very
clearly he cannot move in the pocket like he once did.
The mind is still there and the arm is still alive.
And that's kind of where you have any linebacker against
a quarterback like that. And I do think Sherwood played well.

(01:21:21):
I thought Quincy Williams outside of the dumb penalty. I
thought both linebackers played well. You're going it's like you're
kind of going up against Brady in that way where
it's like, listen, you just got a whole line. You
gotta get. Any stop you can get against these guys
is one that you run with and you just sort
of go past it. The defense had their stops too,
and it was just unfortunate that it wasn't enough talk

(01:21:44):
about the offense unable to pick up a first down
after that original punt with around five minutes to go.
All those other things have to be accounted for on
top of that. I don't want to put blame on
Sherwood and Williams when it wasn't on them. This was
Rogers being vintage Roger at the line script. It happens
we have a when you have an old school, old

(01:22:05):
style quarterback like that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Well, Johnny, I want to thank you for the call, brother,
thank you so much. We have seven hundred people in
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Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (01:22:29):
It was a great game, you know, as far as
the defense, the run stopping was stellar, but there were
definitely some miscommunications, not primarily in their zone game because
they were when you're in the zone defense in the backfield,
you have to communicate the handoffs of the coverage of

(01:22:52):
one dB to the next dB on a guy doing
a crossing pattern and clearly on like at least three players.
I so the handoff wasn't clean where the guy was
running open across the middle of the field and Rogers
just had an easy pitch and catch.

Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
Well yeah, and I but you see, I think that
point is very fair. And I think that's kind of
what I was talking about before. Wilts comes from his
own scheme, Glenn comes from a man and and communication
that marring of communication is not going to be one
hundred percent. So early in the season. It's going to
grow into that later.

Speaker 10 (01:23:26):
On, right, because you have new coaches, new players, and
you know, some guys stale like you was, say Michael Carter,
he had an interception that he just I don't know
how he dropped that.

Speaker 7 (01:23:40):
Oh my god, that's got to be caught. It's got
to be caught.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:23:44):
Yeah, you're a dB because you do have some hand skills.
If you had better hand skills, you'd be a receiver.
But you have hand skills. If you're a dB, they're
always you know, you'll have tight ends and guys like
that on the hands team for onside kicks when they
do them, you know, for instance. But that was the
biggest thing. And maybe some of the communications weren't the

(01:24:09):
DB's fault. Maybe Sherwood made some mistakes and they were
doing what they were told to do and it was
like just the wrong read. Because I think everyone's new
at this. Remember Sherwood's still knew at this. It could
have been a couple of bad calls by him. I'm
not blaming him. Okay, I'm not blaming him. Sherwood's great,
he had a good game, But it could be that
they were simply told to do something, and they did

(01:24:32):
it and it backfired. You never know. I mean, these
are all things that they'll clean up during practice this week.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I'm sure we can only hope Easy appreciate the call. Brother.
All right, let's go up next. We have d n
Y for life, Well maybe not d NY for life,
some issues there. All right, Neil Senior, you're on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
Morning guys, Nick, how are you great game yesterday? I
urged by what I saw, Johnny. Boy's got to take
it easy enough with this Rogers derangement syndrome. Let's face it,
he had a great game. He's gonna have a great season.
He's not on our team anymore. Let's just put him,

(01:25:13):
get him on the shelf. I wish him the best,
you know, b Mac, at the hell off our thing.
Go listen to Pittsburgh enough, Nick, I have a little
bonus contention here with you a little bit. We had
all camp to look at Prichard, and we had all
camp to look at Malachai Moore. The guys in a

(01:25:36):
chat a lot of us look at my eyes. Told
me this kid, Malachai More is better than Tony Adams.
I don't care what anybody says. He made plays in preseason.
That's why you have preseason. That's why you have camp. Okay,
if you're gonna really hold back from putting a talented
rookie on the field to try to give Tony Adams

(01:25:57):
a chance to perform when we saw him in the
last year, he stunk last year. All right, Tony Adams
is not an NFL caliber safety. That's number one, number
two with Gibson. Okay, we had Codrington last year. Remember Codrington, Nick, you.

Speaker 7 (01:26:15):
Had a great gaming for Buffalo today.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
Oh, okay, he had a great preseason for us, and
we gave him the walking papers and now he's a
starter for Buffalo and he's performing well.

Speaker 9 (01:26:27):
He never had a letdown. You gotta get this, you know,
when it comes to guys.

Speaker 6 (01:26:31):
That are special teams guys, you gotta you have to
go with a guy that has a Hotthand the only
thing Pritchard did wrong he did drop that one punt
you know, and that. But at the end of the day,
he's a gadget guy. He could do a couple of plays.
He looked phenomenal in camp. He's got to get a

(01:26:52):
look and if I give it, I want if Aaron
Glenn's gonna hold these guys accountable. Nick, he's gonna have
to take one of those two guys will off the
field for Buffalo.

Speaker 9 (01:27:01):
I don't I would prefer both go up the field.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
I'm interested in hearing what you think, Paul, But at
least one has got to not be playing next week,
because if you want to say, I'm gonna show have
people accountable, I know one thing. If he's by Bill Parcells.
Bill Parcells would not have Gibson in the game next week.
That is a certainty.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
Neil. Let me let me ask you this. Okay, So
you talked about what you saw Pritchet beat out Gibson.
Did you go to every practice?

Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
Doesn't matter?

Speaker 7 (01:27:33):
But but it does, though, because.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
I get I understand, and I understand I understand Aaron
Glenn's reasoning for putting Gibson in. He had he caught
a lot of punts he did. You know, you don't
want mistakes. I get that, sure, okay, but well, you
know his punt returning thing. Look, he had that one

(01:27:57):
fair catch. We didn't talk about that. He had a
fair catch with twenty yards in front of him on
one play. Nobody was stiff and near him.

Speaker 9 (01:28:04):
Okay, but that's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
I don't want turnovers on punts, and that's important, but
don't have the guy returning kicks, you know, with the
ball in his right hand going down the sideline where
could get punched out.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
Just I don't disagree. I don't disagree with that. I
thought that that shows.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
Me he does not have the correct fundamentals and he
made that's a mistake. That's inexcusable. Okay, the fact he fumbled.
If a guy makes an amazing play on him and
he has a ball in his left hand and he
hits him so hard.

Speaker 7 (01:28:36):
That the thing he didn't even get hit, it was
just right. I'm looking agree with this. It was it is.
It is an awful look. It's an awful look because
of pitching, because he looked really good in the preseason.
I'm not disagreeing with any of that. Most coaches. What
I'm saying is most coaches will would give players a
chance afterward to make up for that mistake.

Speaker 6 (01:28:59):
And you know what, Okay, but one or two Tony Adams,
I just don't see it.

Speaker 9 (01:29:05):
I just do not see it. And this is anymore.
He's an Alabama guy, he's prepared for the NFL. He
showed me a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
He made plays in the backfield, he made an interception.
They you know, again, I just don't see anything with
Tony Adams. But that's that as far as the game goes.
Look a lot of good things, a lot of good things.
I you know, the offensive line, the play call. I'm
gonna give a big fat kiss to Angstram because let

(01:29:38):
me tell you something, we have not seen play calling
of any competency in the last ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
And I didn't know it was being called.

Speaker 6 (01:29:48):
I didn't know what he was going to do out there,
and he really showed me something that you know, I
really think we have some confidence there on the play calling, uh,
Aaron Glenn. I like the enthusiasm. I like the fact
that when the players came off, he's doing this, he's jumping,

(01:30:09):
you know, he's engaged with the players. Again, A very
big thing where we had Salad with his headphones on,
sitting there like a Dunswall game. You know, I couldn't
stand that, Okay, just like I couldn't stand it with
what's his name the Tampa coach, a the to what

(01:30:30):
he's analyzing and sitting there like they're talking to somebody
in the Sky you were on in the game. You
got to get the players engaged, and I think Aaron
Gled did well on that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
I I agree Nick, and I know you do have
to get out of my apology. So that Nick, thank
you so much. We'll see you next week. Appreciate, Yeah,
thank you. Yes, Nick can be on with us for
an hour each Monday, so I apologize everybody, and sorry Neil,
he can only be on for an hour. But I
do want to give a shout out to the seven

(01:31:02):
oder people in the room. Thank you for the call, Nail,
Thank you everybody for all the super jets today, and
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(01:32:08):
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