Boy Green Daily: Revealing the Biggest Jets Roster Holes Post-Draft, Trades Looming?

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The twenty twenty five NFL Draft is in the books. Butts,
what remaining needs do the Jets have? What do they
ignore in the draft, and what more do they need
to do. We'll discuss. Boy Green Daily starts now. I'm
gonna lose my gash darned bananas. Boy Green Daily starts now.

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Speaker 1 (00:56):
Hey, what's going on? Everybody? I'm paulisht and Junior aka
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great because of course everyone's like, oh, well, what's the great, Paul,
what's the great? Well? Well grated tomorrow. Drew Batty, who
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is ready. That video is already up and ready to go.
It's not the interview will happened live tomorrow, saying the

(02:00):
interview is scheduled for tomorrow. Will grade the whole draft
to go piece by piece and go all the way through,
So we will do that. Don't worry. I will not
leave you guys in the dark on that one that's
coming up. So we'll do that. But what I want
to do now is sort of say, hm, what didn't
the Jets touch and why didn't they touch it? And

(02:24):
what I did was on Boy Green meets Wooty, like
a month ago, we went through the top needs that
the Jets have going into the draft. I came up
with the top five, Woody came up with the top five,
and a lot of our top five was different, believe
it or not. So what I did was I pulled
all our top fives and put them on a list,
and then I went by and either check marked xed

(02:48):
or question marked whether the Jets addressed it, didn't or not.
And let's just cut right to the Chase people. The
biggest positional need for the Jets that they just straight
up ignored is defensive tackle. You could make an argument
that the Jets could have attacked defensive tackle with the

(03:08):
seventh overall pick for Pete's sake. Now, dude, work out
that way. Mason Graham went fifth overall. But it just
goes to show you how much of a need it was.
Defensive tackle was a massive need. The Jets did not
use a single draft pick on it. I wanted to
read this from Daniel Jeremiah just to kind of give
you context of how good this draft was. This was
probably the best defensive tackle draft in twenty years. Here's

(03:31):
Daniel Jeremiah said this back on February eleventh last year.
At this time, I had potential starter grades on twelve
defensive tackles this year, I have twenty four of them.
Ridiculous amounts of depth at the position in this draft class.
I came on a show a couple of days ago
and said, shoot, you could make an argument the Jets
should double dip at defensive tackle, that they should take

(03:53):
two in this class. They took zero. Now we're going
to hear the exploit nation. Darren Mooge and Aaron Glenn
spoke after the draft yesterday in a press conference setting.
We had that video package that we will play for
you in a second, and we will see if you
buy or sell what they tell you for the rationale
of not taking a defensive tackle. Let's go to that.

(04:16):
Aaron Glenn, head coach general manager Darren Muji asked the
question about sort of odd you didn't touch defensive tackle.
Here's what they had to say.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
One position, you guys did address company people might say
somebody because you want.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
To just how do you guys feel about that position?

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Quinn?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
How do you feel about that.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Position right now?

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (04:40):
We feel good about the group. I mean the guys
that are in that room. A lot of those guys
have played you know, Jay naughty coward. Those guys have
played in the NFL. They know how to play the game.
We went in the draft knowing that the group was
deep and it was a good group. However, when you
get to the end of the process, whether there's certain
character issues or medical issues that may eliminate some guys,

(05:02):
the group gets much thinner, you know. So we went
into the group anticipate as a big group as a little thinner.
There were still some guys we identified, but we feel
good about the group we have right now in there.
And like I said, like I mentioned, those guys can play,
and the process doesn't end. We'll break this meeting, we'll
go upstairs, the draft will end, and this is like
our sixth and seventh round, and our guys will be
hard at work adding guys that we still think and help.

(05:25):
And even after this weekend, we'll have the UFL to evaluate.
We'll have all off season. We're constantly looking to add
pieces to the team that we think can help at
all positions.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
So, by no means is the roster ever complete.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Interesting from Darren Muji on defensive tackle. Again, they did
not draft a single one of that group. And here
are the defensive tackles they have on the roster right now.
And some of those you heard him mentioned. You know
these are NFL guys. They've played in the NFL before,
is what Muji said. So okay, let's go through some
of those defensive tackles. Michael Clemens, if you count him

(06:04):
as one, he sort of floated between defensive tackle on
defensive ends. So wherever you count him. Byron Cowart, he's
new six foot three, three hundred pounds. He had him
to the you had him to the group you have.
Phil Darien mathis six foot four to three hundred twelve pounds,
a former highly touted draft pick of the Washington Commanders
and sort of fell out of favor. He was a
waiver wire pickup for the Jets. Derek Noddy six one,

(06:26):
three twelve pounds didn't play a lot last year for
the Chiefs. His his snap percentage tanked, but prior to
that he had played six strong years with the Chiefs,
so he's solid. Okay. Leonard Taylor the third six foot three,
three hundred five pounds, the UDFA from last year that
should have could have would have been drafted. I mean
he had the town to be drafted, but there was
some other issues at the U for LT three, and

(06:49):
I'm rooting for LT three hards. So maybe as we're
as I'm walking through some of the names, maybe the
Jets feel better about some of these guys that we do.
Obviously they must, and in particular, I'll highlight Leonard Taylor third.
I see him taking a massive jump, but even with
his jump, I still wanted some other security in the room,

(07:11):
and we didn't get that. Here's another guy, J two
Feyley six ft three, three hundred and ten pounds. A
lot of these guys sort of similarly similarly built Bengals
player Jack Wuires, player from his past coming over here.
But a lot of the analytics are not good for
J two Feleay, who's in here. Obviously we have Quentin Willams,
he's pretty good. Yeah, we got Quentin Williams. He's good,

(07:32):
but the question was who's next to him? So for me,
as I look at this group, it lacks, it lacks
some sizzle, it lacks some of that depth in which
he said. The interesting thing that he did mention that
being Darren Moujie, is that he admitted that the defensive

(07:56):
tackle group was big in the draft. However, medical and
character concerns eliminated a lot of guys off their list.
This is another thing we don't know, because this is
a new regime, is what are their like thresholds, right,
Sometimes you have thresholds at positions. Your corners have to
be at least this all, at least this, ath least
this this. Teams also sort of have that medically right,

(08:18):
like they go, oh boy, if you're not here, you're
off the board. Or character concern that is super subjective.
Some teams go, we don't give a flying who will
take best player available? And you saw some of that
with like Mike Green, the pass rusher. Ravens didn't give
a hoot he gets drapped in the second round. Without
some of the off the field concerns, it's probably top ten,
top fifteen pick. So depending on what are the character concerns,

(08:42):
criminal related, or what have you. You know, this a
new regime. We don't know what their thresholds are, rules are,
Maybe we never will. So interesting there again, I'm high
on LT three. That's one guy. I'm high on LT three,
but that is only one guy, and I'll be kind

(09:03):
of curious to see. Yeah, Indie Jets, I agree. I
love LT three. I think he's gonna be good. I
hope so too. But that's sort of a missing piece
to the puzzle here at defensive not sort of let
me not, sugar cutter. That is clearly a missing piece
to the puzzle here because a lot of the guys
the Jets signed, sure, they're NFL guys, but they're just guys. Now.

(09:25):
Here's the thing. The Jets run defense was awful last year.
A thing that should help is schematically speaking. Aaron Glenn
and all his defenses over the years has had really
good run defense numbers, So it might be a schematic
thing that he is teaching that regardless of who's in there.
It's sort of like you go back to the day
of the Mike Shanahan offense. We could plug anybody in

(09:46):
a running back, they'll get a thousand yards. Maybe it's
that sort of psychology at defensive tackle with how they
line up. They can do it to me and for
all of us. That's going to be faith, and the
definition of faith is belief without evident The evidence does
not suggest that the Jets are going to be able
to consistently stop the run Nicks next year. When you

(10:06):
have Byron Coward Derek Noddy J two fele that on
the surface that oh, positions solved. That doesn't say that. Also,
I will go back to exhibit a right filium with
someone who mentioned this a few times for the draft
FFL ninety eight, one of our Mamny Boy Green Coffee

(10:27):
Club members. You won't be able to fill every need
in the draft, And that's true. Of course, you only
have so many picks, and then obviously your picks higher
are more likely than your picks later. That sort of
makes sense, sure, But defensive tackle just seem like one
of their biggest needs. I get it that you can't
check every need off of well, okay, we can sort
of agree on that at the surface level, but boy,

(10:48):
defensive tackles seem demas importante. But hey, we'll see what
the Jets know. So defensive tackle that has to be
in the group I do want to highlight. And these
names are still sort of churning in. I mentioned they
did not draft the defensive tackle, and that's true, they
did not, but they got very active in the UDFA

(11:09):
undrafted free agent market, and again those names are still
filing in. So I don't want to do a full
report on their udfas yet, we know a couple of
names that are in and I'm intrigued by a couple
of names, and we'll get into that eventually, but specifically,
they've so far only signed one defensive tackle in UDFA.
I thought, Okay, you don't want to draft one that's

(11:31):
sort of weird, but you want to make up for it.
You go to undrafted frenency, which, as Jarre Muji described
in his pressure yesterday, it's like your six or seventh round.
You're like competing and recruiting guys. The only defensive tackle
they got is let me make sure I try to
pronounce this right, Fatorma moba or if you just read
it out, it's fato rma, So it could be fat Orma,

(11:54):
which you know would be great if he can play
in that way, because we need a guy so foot
Tarma Molba is the guy they signed as a UDFA.
Shout out to the beast. He's six foot three, the
beast from the athletic. Having some details here on Ftorma Molba,
He's out of West Virginia. He's six three, three hundred

(12:15):
nine pounds. Again, it's sort of the same profile as
a lot of the other guys that have come through
some of the protain numbers. He's got thirty three and
a half arms, eighty three and three h wingspan, five
seven forty yard dash some of those numbers here. I'm
looking at some more data from him. He had twenty
eight bench press reps of two hundred and twenty five pounds,
so he's got some strength. There's some hutzpur there. There's

(12:36):
no question on some of some of the confirmed NFL
data from his protein. So that's very nice. And I
will tell you it's a really cool story. For those
who don't know, shout out to penn Live dot com
and specifically let me see you wrote this piece Brian
Linder who talked about Fortorma Molba, and like I said,
he's got a really really cool story which we'll talk

(12:59):
about here. Okay. And his agent, Brett Tesler, revealed that
for Tourma Moba, a nose tackled defensive tackle to West Virginia,
is signing with the Jets' UDFA had a ton of
interest around the league, according to his agent, but the
Jets were the quote unquote perfect opportunity. Molba is a
native of Liberia. His parents won their nation's lottery to

(13:23):
be able to come to this country. When he was young,
he did not know what snow was, or had never
held or knew what a football was before arriving in Pennsylvania.
He didn't know what a three point stance was when
he got to high school. So this is obviously a
guy that's very raw from that perspective. He has not
been playing football a long time, but the combination of size,

(13:43):
strength and intelligence he ended up with two degrees, including
a master's, which caught some recruiters eye for the academics
and for his play on the football field. He did
sign with penn State, and again admittedly Raw got some
reps in a deep defensive line room and then finished
his final two seasons of college off at West Virginia.
He had in his senior campaign fifty tackles and a

(14:04):
sack for the Mountaineers. Really cool, a really cool story,
and we'll see sort of what it all means. He
said he achieved the American dream. There's some nice quotes
in this story about you know, taking advantage of things
in your life. So a cool story to pay attention
to us. We're moving forward again for Tarma Molba, West

(14:28):
Virginia like that Udfa story. But that's the only name
they've added at defensive tackle, and again, he won't inspire
a lot. I imagine too with the rawness and lack
of overall ability. We'll see if that's a nice little
dart throw there that can sort of be addressed. It's okay,

(14:50):
defensive tackle. Obviously, that's a big one. We wanted to
talk about that. Check that one off the bucket list.
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(15:33):
Wide receiver was a big need for the Jets. Talk
about that one. Well, the only wide receiver the Jets
took in this draft was Arian Smith, a Georgia wide
receiver who was the hundred tenth overall pick in the
fourth round. There is the only wide receiver the Jets drafted. Okay,

(15:53):
and Arian Smith is an interesting cat. He's a track star.
We're in the fourth fastest four yard dash at his
position among wide receivers. A track star in high school,
a track star in college. I mean he that's it.
I mean he is a friggin speedster. So someone I
can understand how they could be infactuated with that element

(16:15):
of his game. Now, the problem is he's fast, you
can't question that. But normally a prerequisite to playing wide
receiver is being able to catch the football, and well,
that's a little bit of an issue for Arian Smith.
He had ten drops last season. He was the only
power for wide receiver to have double digit drops in

(16:37):
college football last year. That translates to a sixteen point
seven percent drop rate on catchable balls that was among
the league leaders, not just in this draft, but in
all of college football, according to Connor Rodgers. So he
has some struggles and inconsistencies with catching the pigskin, so
that's an issue, and that's great. So it sounds like

(17:03):
they believe in Joe Henry now they believe in the
ability to find they're very poor man's Jamison Williams a
fast guy that could take the top off a defense.
Fat A fast guy excuse me, that can open things

(17:24):
up underneath because if that threat is legit, he could
be a decoy even at wide receiver. So he's an
interesting cat. It's a it's a dart throw. Again. People
are sort of varying in his pre draft analysis at
wide receiver, for instance, Dane Brugler. When you're talking about

(17:45):
wide receivers. For Arian he had Arian Smith. Let me
make sure I have this right. Aaron Smith he grated
as a fifth round draft choice and the Jets got
him in the fourth round, so that's not absurd. Connor
Rodgers had him as a six round pick, so he
was a lot lower on Arian Smith, and he thinks
he needs to learn all phases of the wide receiver position.

(18:07):
So Connor is very low on Arion Smith coming out.
But even with Arian Smith, I look at this wide
receiver room and I'm likely here are the names that
wide receiver for the Jets. Garrett Wilson, you have heard
of that guy. That guy's awesome. If Allan Lazard who's
on a pay cut, Okay, Tyler Johnson, sort of a guy,

(18:30):
Josh Reynolds, a blocking wide receiver that's probably more suited
for wide receiver three or four, maybe wide receiver five.
If Xavier Gibson an undrafted free agent that has shown
very very few glimpses. Malachi Corley total. I no, we
have no idea what he is. You have Arion Smith
that we just mentioned. You have IRV Charles is coming

(18:50):
off like a torn acl very late in the season,
so I have no idea what his status is. And
then you have Brandon Smith that is your wide receiver
depth chart. Folks. Now there's udfa's and I can highlight
those in a second of some other guys that they're
sort of kicking the tires on, and let's go those
Jimmy Jets real quick. He said they should have paid

(19:11):
Nick Nash more UDFA money. Yeah, he was one of
the first people signed in undrafted free agency. There was
a bit of a bidding war going on for Nick Nash,
who is out there. Here are the udfas they signed
shout out to Jets media, by the way, putting a
nice little graphic. Hear together. Quentin Skinner out of looks
like Kansas here and let me see here Jamal Pritchett,
South Alabama. So let's highlight both of those individuals, because

(19:34):
those guys are now getting added to the pool. These
are reported UDFA signings again, undrafted free agent signings for
the New York Jets. So, like I said, we can
highlight some of those individuals here on the program. We'll
start off with Quintin Skinner, six foot four to two
hundred three pounds. You love to see that forty yard dash,
pretty slow, four five one, nothing too crazy there, thirty

(19:58):
two and a half inch arm, nine and a half inchance,
small hands there, seventy eight and five eighths wingspan coming in.
So there they're going, Quentin Skinner, they're sort of the
skinny on Quentin Skinner six foot four. I like the size.
That's really intriguing. Two hundred pounds, a little slower at
four to five to one. We'll see, you know what
he can do. Let's go Jamal pritchell Let's pull up

(20:19):
the South Alabama. Let's go to his you know nuggets
here for Jamal Pritchett, South Alabama kid five foot nine,
very very smaller guy, one hundred and seventy five pounds,
ran a four four to two forty yard dash, very nice,
nine and a quarter in chance, twenty nine and a
half inch arms will that wing? Okay? Interesting arm length

(20:39):
all right? In seventy one and eight wingspan, all right,
Jamal Pritchett. Some super productive receivers at their level. But
you know, a couple bless myself, a couple of just
a udfas got adds the list. I think those are
the only two from the UDFA pile. Again, udfasers still

(21:00):
flowing until the Jets announced the official list. None of
this is official, I suppose, so keep that in mind.
But again, quittin skinner and let me see, Jamal pritchet
those are the only two wide receivers I currently have
on the BINGO card for the Jets. And again, these
won't be officially confirmed till the Jets put out their udfas.
Excuse me, so wide receiver. My big question when you

(21:24):
look at that depth chart and you look at the
udfas and everybody for the Jets, my question is who
the hell is wide receiver two on this team. When
you start breaking down target share, three names stick out
for me. At this point, a lot of things can change.
You have Garrett Wilson, he's obviously going to lead the
Jets and targets, and then the next two that are
battling for it are combination of bres Hall and Mason Taylor.

(21:47):
The Jets, also looking at the draft, class did not
take a running back, so any of the Breezehall trade
noise that didn't really happen. The Jets did add a
UDFA that I freaking love, and Donovan Edwards out of Michigan.
In two years ago, Donovan Edwards was averaging or three
years ago, I guess technically he was averaging seven yards

(22:08):
a clip. I mean, he looked awesome. He looked like
he was gonna be one of the top running backs
eventually in the draft, and the last two years his
yards per kerry plummeted. But he's a guy running the football,
catch of the football. I love Donovan Edwards. I think
he's gonna be your RB four on this team. So
I'm very high at Donovan Edwards. Loved that Udia Faith
signing out of Michigan. Very nice, very nice there. But obviously, yeah,

(22:30):
so Breeze is gonna be tight. I think he's gonna
be top three targets and then probably the other one
is Mason Taylor. Yeah. I shout out to rich and
media some good nuggets on Justin Fields. His QBR is
the third best in football when targeting tight ends, so
he loves tight ends and the Jets got him one.
And Mason Taylor so a nice and nice size speed

(22:51):
all that jazz guy. So okay, that gets added to
the group. So tight end. Let me reverse engineer my
way back over there real quick, because we didn't address
that when title was a big need for the Jets
and they checked it off. Mason Taylor is a massive
upgrade over Jeremy RUCKERD and Stone Smart. So that's that's awesome. Yeah,
Tony G saying Edwards is a quality year DFA A

(23:12):
hundred percent. I love I love Donovan Edwards. Hell in
my final Bock draft, he was my mister Irrelevant pick
for the New York Jets. I really love Donovan Edwards.
That's a that's really nice. That's a really nice grab.
Love that udface hunting very nice. I'm just looking through
all my notes here. So yeah, tight end, So check
that one off. Right tight end was a big need.
They checked that off. Mason Taylor's in again. You could

(23:32):
have even argued for a double dipit tight end. My
boy Rondi gets and goes to the Chargers. So that's fine.
Right tackle obviously big need. Okay, you got our mom,
mem boo boo. Yeah. So the Jets have the potential
of a top ten offensive line in football, maybe even
higher than that. So right tackle was a big need.
They checked that one off. Title was a big need.
They checked that one off. We go to a couple
of the other ones. They did not take a quarterback.

(23:53):
Some people thought they would. They did not. In terms
of the UDFA, we got a Brady Cook supposedly of Missouri.
Reunites with this offensive lineman, Armah Membu. The Jets were
hot and heavy for potential of quinn Ewers. He ended
up getting drafted by the Miami Dolphins. They met him
three times during the pre draft process. I think he
would have been their top QB target in UDFA if

(24:15):
he would have made it. He did not. He ended
up getting drafted to the Dolphins. Look at that Dolphins quarterback,
ro Quinn Ewers, Zach Wilson, and Tua interesting but AnyWho,
So Braddy Cook, he and Jordan Travis. I imagine battle
for QB three. We'll see who walks out of that club.
Some interesting comments. We'll probably do a different show on
Jordan Travis later in the week. Some interesting comments there.

(24:38):
So QB they didn't touch. But again, I think I
said it before the draft. You could have made a
strong case, a very strong case, that hey, the Jets
should take this guy, this guy, or this guy at quarterback,
and three of my favorites were com Acord out of Syracuse.
He goes to the Eagles. That's cool. The Donald mcnabbs
Syracuse Eagles saying that's awesome. So happy for Kyle. I

(25:01):
would have been very intrued by Jalen mollow. He ends
up going to I think it was Seattle for Jalen Molroe.
Me double check that if there was Seattle there for
Jalen Morre. But that's what I remember for Jalen, so
obviously he could have been a potential option. Yeah where'd
he go? Is he?

Speaker 8 (25:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah? Seahawks? Okay, cool for Jalen Mower. He went Seahawks,
and then the other one was Shadour obviously that I
pounded the table for mel Kuiper esque pound the table
for apparently, and he goes to Cleveland in a wild
plot twist. So you could have if the Jets could
take one of those guys, I would have been like, okay.
But I also said before the if you don't take one,
I totally understand because of all these other needs and

(25:39):
other things, and you just say, hey man, we're just
gonna build around justin fields. And clearly the Jets did.
That was their ideology during this draft. Again, we'll probably
do more on that in a show later this week too,
really diving deep into that. And then also a somewhat
of an endorsement on Jordan Travis. Again we'll also get
to that later about him being the developmental guy moving forward.

(26:00):
Now there with Britty Cook in the room, so quarterback
they didn't touch. But I got no issue with that
edge rusher. That's another interesting one. I was higher on
edge rusher need than I think others were if we're
talking about that for edge rusher, and let's see on
draft they only had the one that was Tyler Baron

(26:22):
Miami pass rusher final year at Miami. His previous four
years were at Tennessee. He had five and a half
sacks last year, which initially looks intriguing on the surface,
but as Connor Rogers noted on the Bleacher Report Live show,
three of his five and a half sacks came against
Do I have it here in my notes, Florida A

(26:42):
and M so again Tyler Baron the just pass rusher
they traded up for. He's most recently of Miami, but
spent the previous four years at Tennessee. He had five
and a half sacks flast year, which again on services like,
oh okay, that's not bad, but three of his five
and a half sacks against it came against Florida A
and M and we last year, so sort of inflated numbers,

(27:04):
you could say. But the Aaron Glendari Mujie combination after
the drafts sort of highlighted the fact that the trades
they believe are here and they think they could take
it here, and hey, we'll see what the coaching ends
up doing for that. So ed thrusher, is it still
a need? We'll sort of see on that A safety,
I didn't put that on my list. I got to
write that on my list. So safety was in need,

(27:26):
and obviously we were unclear when they took a z Thomas.
We're like, oh is Brandon Stevens going to go from
a corner to safety? And then the Jets took their
own safety and moved up for him and Malachi Moore
out of Alabama. He was the one hundred and thirtieth
overall pick of the fourth round. The Jets traded up
for him and interesting on Malachi more, the Jets revealed

(27:48):
how much they coveted Malachi, that they wanted him bad.
You would have thought with how much they wanted them
they would have taken him at one ten over Arian Smith,
but they did not, and they were able to play
the game and get everyone they wanted. Apparently, we'll see
how it all turns out. But interesting there in Malka,
so he is going to compete immediately at safety and
probably Malachi and Andre Cisco are your starting safeties on

(28:09):
the back end there. So safety, if you want to
check that off, They did address it, talk about safety,
put that one of the mix. We talked about wide
receivers sort of being a question mark. We'll see what
happens there. Also, off ball linebacker. Now, there were a
few positions for the Jets. There were a few positions
for the Jets. Zach Quinn says, real quick, I just

(28:30):
want to talk about this. He says, Malachi More will
be a free safety. I think it was my boy
Damian Parson, who covers things for Bleach Report on their
draft side. He was on the Draft show. He says
Malachi More can play both both as a strong safety
and free safety, so we will see how that versatility works.
He could also play in the nickel. Now we have
Michael Carter the second so it's probably more an injury
situation or situationally depending on the situation. But yeah, he

(28:55):
says Malachi More can play both, so we'll sort of
see what happens there at safety. You just want to
address one real quick off ball. Linebacker and corner were
two needs that are not like needs, but they're sort
of needs because like Quincy Williams, right, what's gonna happen
with him, He's entering into the last year his deal.
The Jets lost the meat depth of corner in the

(29:15):
middle when he lost Brandon Eccles. So Az Thomas replaces
Brandon Eccles. That in that world and then at off
ball linebacker, right, they in the draft, they ended up
taking the another Miami kid, Francisco mawing Oa and aka
Keiko if that's easier to say, Keiko mawing Oa ended

(29:36):
up being the off ball linebacker. They're a thumper linebacker
that should be the Zaire barn Zion Bird still on
the rosterbies like linebacker three if everything works out right,
as that third guy that'll be competing for spots. Now.
I want to give this note. I read it in
Rich Samani's column this morning. Quincy Williams, who's in the
last year his deal, and it's sort of awkward because
now his running mate Jamien Sherwood is making like triple

(29:58):
the money he is. Quinc Dan Williams has been at
voluntary workouts, So salute to Quincy. That's kind of a
nice sign, right he could be holding out and saying,
hey man, I want my money and things of that nature.
Quincy has been at voluntary workouts, according to Ritzemini. Interesting.
Just wanted to share that nugget that came out in
his column this morning. Not holding out there really nice

(30:20):
and that sort of addresses it. And I mentioned in
the headline of this video, and we'll open up the
phone lines. We could have a lot of conversations about
a variety of topics, the possibilities of trade. Now before
the draft, Adam Schefter and his intel piece put all
the veteran players who could be available via trade. And

(30:40):
here are some other players on rookie contracts who could
be deemed expendable. I won't go through the full list,
but I'll go through some of the positions that we
talked about here and things that could make sense. And
wide receiver, but I don't love the wide receivers that
are available. According to Adam Schefter, Traylon Burks, no thank you,
Jalen Hyatt. The Jets got their Jalen Heyin and Arian Smith,

(31:02):
so no thank you on the speedster. George Pickens, while
wildly talented, he's a basket case and that would certainly
him and Garrett Wilson on paper in a Madden video
game sound awesome. And George Pickens can make some crazy catches.
Unless the Jets felt good about the personality that is

(31:25):
George Pickens, I would avoid that one personally. And then
you have Kayshawn Boody, who doesn't really do anything for
me either at wide receiver. So the wide receiver trade
names are not great. Then you go to the veteran
market tight end I think is off the table. You
got Mason Taylor, so Dallas gotter Mark Andrews. Feels like
something for someone else that could have been a backup
plan for the Jets if they missed out on tight end,

(31:45):
but they got that. They're not trading for Kirk Cousins,
none of the corner They're not going after either the
corners Jalen Ramsey, ordjyr Alexander and then edge Trey Hendrickson. Again,
it just doesn't feel like a Jets move from where
they're at to pay the draft pick compensation and then
the money. So I don't see that one either on

(32:06):
that So I don't see that either. So on trades,
but is a trade looming at some of these positions right,
like the ones that had big question like defensive tackles
are defensive tackle There was none on that list from
schefter that fits the bill. I don't see it. Quarterbacks
or slice that one off edge rusher maybe, but again,
if it's foreign edge, it won't be Trey Hendrickson coming

(32:28):
in wide receiver do they take one of the free
agent wide receivers. Maybe you know Amari Cooper and those
kind of guys are still out there. You just circle
back around for that because they're desperately lacking a wide
receiver two. But maybe they're just with a primarily running
offense and how they split it up giving a lot
of guys opportunities. Maybe it would be sort of a

(32:49):
wide receiver by committee. We don't talk about that sort
of theme often, but maybe that's a possibility. So that's
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so we'll go through it all here on the program.
Let's kick it off with hep here on the show.
What's up hep.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Hey, Paul.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
I'm just curious. The real head scratcher for me was
the third round pick.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
What do you think the third round pick? Who did
we have in my brand? So oh ezy Thomas. So
how they explained it was Moujie in particular, was just
the value, wasn't saying like I cannot believe this guy's
still on the board. And I was reading a bunch
of because I saw four. Lily asked us about, oh, so,
what are the experts saying on draft grade, and mel

(36:01):
Kiper on azy Thomas said, if he would have ran
a better forty yard desh, he was a first round
pick at corner and then so and he was graded
by Dame Brugler as a second rounder straight up, and
they got him in the third. So from Darren Moogie's perspective,
they didn't go, hey, we need a defense attack and
we're taking whoever is at defense attack on the third round.

(36:21):
He argued it again, we can all disagree with that
if we want. We don't have to just accept it
for what he says. But he just said, hey, I
trusted the board, and I'm like, holy crap, this player
should not be here. We're taking him, and we'll figure
it all out of where everyone fits here. Because obviously
everyone's question is, well, where does Brandon Stevens play? Yeah, backup,
So there's a lot of questions here. But that's what

(36:41):
they say. And like I said, I was reading that
from mel Kaiper this morning, who said, if you had
a better forty. He had a four or five eight forty.
He would have been a first round pick. And I'm
like when I hear that, I'm like, oh, okay, And
Aaron Glenn must know what he's talking about. As a
you know, a fifteen year corner, I was a little disappointed.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
I was really rooting for Higgins in that second round.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Oh my god, yeah, got drafted like immediately right like
the second or third pick of the sting around. I'm like, oh,
that dreams dead, like let's old yell or that one
in the backyard. Yeah, that one was dead quickly.

Speaker 9 (37:08):
And I think Buffalo they kind of creeped.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
In right in front of Oh my god, they sniped us,
and I don't now I'm connecting a lot of So
I'm connecting a lot of dots here. So first off,
Ritzy Media is piece this morning said Buffalo traded in
front of the Jets for Dion Walker, the kid out
of Kentucky, the six foot seven guy, because they totally
thought the Jets are going to take him. So that's
what richarmedi said from the Buffalo. So that would have

(37:33):
been nice. Darren Mucci in the that was the video
clip we played earlier. He said they eliminated a lot
of defensive tackles off their list because of medical and
because of character. And he didn't mention Deon Walker by
name obviously, but a problem with Dion Walker is his
PARS defect, which is a spinal back issue. So if

(37:55):
they medically eliminated him, then the Bills moved in front
of us for nothing. We wouldn't have grabbed it, but
I would have loved him. I think it would have
been a perfect fit for what the Jets we're looking for.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah, he said he was six foot seven.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
You know, I guess those those giants sometimes have a
little which I guess makes sense, right, exactly what the
back issues. Yeah, right, right, all right, thanks Paul, I
appreciate it. Yeah, good one happened. And I would say
this so again, like Corner Again, I didn't have very
high personally on my own BINGO card. But if there's
anything you're gonna trust AG with, right, Like, he's never
been a head coach before, so there's a lot of

(38:26):
people would say, Hey, I get all the touchy feely,
I get the honeymoon thing. He was the first round
pick in nineteen ninety four. I get all that and
some people are all Google Gaga over him. There's somebody
gonna say, prove it on the field, Pal, Okay, we
haven't made the playoffs in fourteen years. AG, let's see
it on the field. And some people are gonna be
like that, That's totally cool, hey man, that's you're your
prerogative out there. But for me, again, even if I

(38:48):
didn't have corner as high the guy who played corner
for fifteen years in the NFL and started off with
a scouting background and a longtime coach, if he says, hey,
this corner is me, then okay, AG, you know you've
forgotten more than I will ever know, So I'll give
you the benefit of the doubt on that one. Coach.
So Az Thomas a salute. And also we play this

(39:10):
video during the YouTube shorter videos that are out there,
not on the live show. But Trevor Sikima was asked
at the NFL Combine in late February, who is a
player anywhere in this draft by Caroline Hendershot that fits
AG in his style and everything, and Trevor Sikmas said,
a Z Thomas. So it's kind of cool that full
circle ends up being a pick, all right, let's go

(39:30):
back to the phone launch here. We got a John
here on the show. What's up John? Hey, how you doing, Paul, Yeah,
I'm Joe excellent, Thanks for calling in.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (39:38):
So this is my big takeaway from the draft. All Right,
we solidify the offensive line. We're gonna run the ball right,
all right. We got a top line, the tight ends,
we got a speedster who's gonna take the top off
all the all the defenders, all right, and then we
gotta we're gonna cover the hell everybody. We got different

(40:02):
types of safeties now, we've got different types of cornerbacks now,
so I believe Aaron Glenn is gonna win games in
the in the defensive backfield, that's my opinion. I mean,
we got a big linebacker two and they're gonna coach
these guys up, so you know, you gotta get these
guys a benefit of the doubt. But I like the
fact that we have different sized cornerbacks. You know, Michael Carter,

(40:24):
you have a z Thomas, you have Stiggers who's a
good backup, and you know, and we're gonna have a
really good special teams play as well. I mean, some
of these guys that they're picking up an undrafted free agents.
I mean they're gonna We're gonna be really good.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I I I believe that.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
You know, he's looking at the Jets as a defensive back,
you know, jargonaut, that's my opinion. You know, he's gonna
mix and match players as Thomas Man, and he's got
the best feat of any defensive.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Back that that was in the draft.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
So, I mean, the guy can cover and he's going
to play fast.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I think so too, John. I appreciate the call, brother.
I'll also say this to your point on special teams.
If you look at Day three of the Jets twenty
twenty five draft, Arion Smith, Malachai Moore, Francisco Aka, Keiko Mauingoa,
and Tyler Barron, all four of those guys play special teams.
And specifically, this is something we did not mention Arion Smith.
It sounds like the Jets view him as this dynamic

(41:24):
return man with his speed, that they're going to try
to use him in that way, whether it's as some
decoy stuff on offense and gidget gasmo, smoke screen that
sort of stuff, but also a return man. So the
entire Day three guys their calling card. According to the
Dane Brugler's athletic profiles on each they've got special teams prowess,
so they're sort of building up that third of the
game that we normally don't talk about. Now that's not

(41:45):
as sexy and toochet on, you know, getting guys that
have those dual roles as both defenders and specialties, but
just something sort of also to sort of factor in
there when we're talking about all that for sure. All right,
let's go. We've got plenty of phone calls, so we'll
get to all those. Keep the super chats coming in, baby,
let's get all that rolling here on the train. I

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see we got one in here. I want to make
sure I didn't miss anyone else, all right, let me
just see a quick peaksy, Oh yeah, we got a
membership in here. Okay, great, all right, I want to
scroll back up to make sure I didn't miss anybody
else in here. I was looking away from the comments
during our phone calls. Okay, I think that's it. Okay,
let's let's let's get some action happening here. Appreciate it.

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Let's go. We've got MFC. Yeah, baby, mother effing chew
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(42:50):
ticket for our action happening this month. Appreciate it, Thank
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We'll get to that in just a moment. Phone lines,
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who you are out there. But like I said, MFC
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the scrolling ticker. We have the draft scrolling ticker for
a while, so we will update that in due time.
I'll try to have that ready for the show tomorrow
for Drew Beatty coming in as well. But MFC, you
have fifteen raffle tickets so far this month. Thanks brother,
Appreciate you kindly. All right, let's get to that super chat.
Then we'll go back to the phone lines. Here on
the show, it is forged through faith with a five

(43:33):
dollars super chat. Every time we get a super chat.
We hear from my beautiful, amazing daughters Ryland BG. Not
draft related, but your thoughts on the new rivalry jerseys
coming this year? All right? Let me hit a Google search.
I saw they did a couple of those promotions during
the draft. So the rivalry jerseys. All right, I'll see

(43:54):
this together. I guess I read jerseys NFL. Okay, let
me get a peak ski at this there, right, all right,
NFL dot com. NFL launches rivalry jerseys. Let me see.
Maybe I didn't see this during the dri I mean
I saw the commercials for it, But do they have
like a do they have a picture or something of it?
Let me see. Let me go to image this to
see if I can see this. I'm not seeing a

(44:20):
lot here. So if someone has a good link or
something to these rivalry jerseys, let me know. I'd love
to see. It's either launching something fan gear inspired. Let
me see what the I can read what they have
in the report here? Oh wait here, we got something
from the Jets here. Let me see Jets will wear
NFL rivalry uniforms during twenty twenty five season. All right,
let me see what the Jets say about this. Joke

(44:41):
shall be one of the participating teams that were a
unique rivalry uniform next season, joining a first wave of
teams from the AFC East and NFC West. The Jets
rivalry uniform will feature design sourced material from local community
insights during a home game against another AFC East rival
nik In The NFL announced on Friday the Rivalry Program,
which will drive fan engagement by celebrating storage traditions and

(45:03):
uniting communities with unique and elevated product designs. The program
elevates NFL rivalry games over the next four seasons, especially
designed Nike uniforms and fangear. The program will celebrate story
traditions and help to unite communities with unique product designs. Interesting.
I don't see any images yet for it, but that
sounds super cool and interesting, so yeah to me. And

(45:25):
this is why we go back to you know, we
may see that change next month, and there seems to
be some momentum towards it. Of right now, the divisions
are so important, right, you know, we talk about the seating.
I got into a healthy argument about this with Philium
and a couple other people were also in the pro
camp of because like, for instance, let's go to the

(45:46):
NFC Northwester right, So we had the Lions and Vikings
battling it out, the fourteen to fifteen win teams. The
winners the number one seed in the NFC, the losers
the five seed and has to go on the road.
And some people see that as inherently unfair. To me,
I'm like, hey, man, divisions change every year. One year
you have great division like that in the NFC North,
and other years you have a seven win team winning

(46:08):
your division. The divisions have ebbs and flows, and to me, personally,
I want it to stay that way. The winning team
and the division to me, should have a playoff game.
Of course, it should be a home playoff game, like
you earned your home playoff game against your division. And
to me, bringing it full circle here, for true faith,
rivalries matter, so they have a special genese quah. I

(46:30):
think they would mean a little bit less if you
win your division and then you're going on the road again.
Different strokes, different folks. The thing that I will tell
you that like right that it may appear that I'm
sort of hardheaded on this topic. The thing that I
will be honest, The greatest counterpoint someone's given to me.
This is my radio partner. He says, hey, Paul in

(46:51):
the NBA. You're a big NBA fan, right, I'm like, yeah, sure.
He's like, who are in all the divisions? And I
went well, and I'm like and then I pausitor second,
I went, oh, yeah, that's not as important. In the NBA,
they stacked the conference and then the best teams overall.
The stupid divisions don't mean crap anymore. They don't mean nothing.
And I went, all right, that's the best counterpoint I've heard,

(47:12):
and that you would just stack my best records, and
that's what they do in the NBA. So maybe it's possible.
But any here to get back to your point, fortune Faith,
I have not seen any images, so if you have
one or a link to one, let me know and
I'll show it here on the show live. But I
like the idea. That sounds cool. I love shining an
extra light on rivalries. And I heard some of the
promos during the draft. I guess it wasn't paying enough attention.

(47:34):
I guess, So that's interesting, nice cool? Yeah? Sure, Like
I said, I haven't seen any images or anything for
it yet, so I don't know if those are out
there or we don't know any of that, but yeah,
if anyone does know any links or anything to that jazz,
feel free to let me know or send that in
somehow or some way, but shout it forwards through faith.

(47:56):
Thanks for us sending that in much appreciate it. Le
Me see, did you have an explanation here for Did
I miss that?

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
No, I don't think so. Okay, but thank you so
appreciate the super hit. Yeah, I'm all for a highlighting robberies.
That's awesome. All right, let's go back to the Pune
light Year. We've got easy here on the show. What's
up easy? What's up going on? Man?

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I see a piece of toast?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Oh nice? How do you like your toast?

Speaker 3 (48:24):
What?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
How do you like your toast?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Toasty?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, me too. I like a good toastiness. I like
when it's extra crunchy.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Well, alia, when's perfectly golden brown?

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Nice?

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Okay, sure? But not burnt. Well.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Sometimes I leave the butter out overnight, so in the
morning when I get my toast, it melts right on
and through.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Ah. That's a good technique. All right, there you go.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Any who, I think it was a c that's my
grade on the draft. We have four good players and
three reaches.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
I know someone was saying, uh that our first round
pick Moaga muga are my membu Membo?

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Yeah, Membo, he's got a reach.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
He's yeah. I heard some people say that because they
think he's raw or something.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
The guy didn't give up any sacks or any pressures.
And he's a right tackle, and we fucking need a
right tackle. We don't need to convert a guard to
a tackle or a left tackle. Or I'd rather have
a right tackle who's a good right tackle rather than
take a like second string left tackle and throw him
over on the right side. No, no, this guy's We

(49:37):
have a good old line.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Now.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
That's the one thing I can say about the Jets
this year. I'm confident in the old line. I'm confident
in the O line.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Depth.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
We were talking about this.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 11 (49:49):
I have a question. Why did they wait so late
to trade up? They traded up after everybody was gone?

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
What was that? The So they only had one pick
in the first four rounds that at first, a second,
a third, and a fourth, and then they traded back
into the fourth for another fourth round pick that was
Malachi More. That's a good point. Like I said, with
how much they were drooling over Malachi More in the
post draft presser they said, oh my god, we coveted

(50:21):
that guy. Oh may we targeted him. Why didn't take
him at one ten? That's what I didn't understand. So again,
it works out they got lucky, I guess if he
was still on the board and they were able to
aggressively sort of move up for him. But yeah, it is. Yeah,
they waited all the way till day three to do it. Yeah,
I don't know that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Did you know what I think they wanted to do.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
I think they wanted to maximize the extra fifth and sixth.
And the only way they could maximize the extra fifth
and sixth I move up in the fourth and fifth.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Because right, the value is lesser, right, sure, right, If.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
They would have tried to move up into the third round,
they probably would have had to waste cast little more.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yes, right, yes, And I think.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
They did give up one next year pick. But I
think it wasn't it a fifth swap.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
It was a Baltimore swap, so it except being all
the same, yeah, because right, like so like for this,
the Baltimore swap was the pass rusher, I do believe.
So they gave up their sixth for the Ravens fifth,
and then they swapped those same picks in the next year.
So to be honest, he he didn't do nothing like fifth,
sixth and then fifth six So yeah, to me, it

(51:23):
was just past the Biscuits. They didn't really give up
anything for to go get the Tyler Barron kid, the
Miami pass rusher.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I think they're going to get a D lineman in
a trade.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Somewhere can eat it down the road.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
We also there's the waiver wire where we get seventh
pick in the waiver wire.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Correct all the way throughout the off season, yep.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Yep, there are gonna be some cap hit casualties after
the draft.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
There always are, uh, there.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Would be people made available who you have no idea
we are going to be available.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
This whole thing with the wide receiver from Detroit, oh
you know me gas, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, they said he won't be available, so they they
of course they all have draft pressers too. Yeah. The
Lions GM Brad Holmes came out and aggressively said that's
all bs. He I don't know where that came from.
We've had no conversations. We're not going to have any conversations.
And then they picked up his fifth year options and the.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Checks and the mail.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
So yeah, you can't believe anything they say because they'll
say that every year and then off they can't refuse.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Guy's gone. I have one question other than the draft.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Oh okay, did you know of any spectacularly different NFL
rule changes this year besides the GPS chip.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
And the ball?

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, right, so they've removed the chang gang to a
backup Forah. No, no, but that's everything you're saying. I'm
just I'm just explaining it to the people that that's
that was a big rule change. So chang Gang, for
those who don't know that, is now a backup plan
just in case technology for whatever reason wasn't working. They
will have the chain gang just kind of sitting there

(53:05):
on the sideline, ready to go if anything happens. So,
now that was a big one obviously, sure, no, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Is the chip in the middle of the ball or
they have it at the ends of the ball.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Well, you know, that's funny. That's something I said too,
because like you know, that's gonna be, that's not gonna
be even so I would assume it it have to
be in the tip. But then if you put it.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
In the middle of the ball, right where it goes
and wherever the tip is, the tip is.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I mean, oh right, because I guess you could see
the tip. Yeah, I guess, So maybe that makes motion.
They'll move it around.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
They'll say, okay, GPS, point right there, bang, and now
I see the tip of the ball is far and
then they could change I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
It's just a bunch.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Of so but no, to answer your question, there are
a couple of changes. So the touchback line is moving
from the thirty to the thirty five. And some people
may say, what's the big deal. Well, what that means
is is NFL teams last year just said this rule
is like the whole kickoff thing obviously changed last year.
People went, we're not going to f round with that,

(54:05):
Hey kicker, boot that to the guys sitting in the
three to oh four up there, and then we're not.
So basically the kickoff play is dead, like come on out, so.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
It'll be a opening drive.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Well that's why I think they're trying to punish teams,
the teams that say, hey, just boot that to section
three h four. They're like, okay, well, now the balls
of the thirty five yard line. Are you willing to
do that? Most teams won't be, so now the kickers
are going to try to plant that right at the
five or ten yard line and dare the returners to
come out. So I think that thirty to thirty five
is probably normal. Casual people in the streets are going

(54:41):
to say, what does that even mean? That's not a
big deal, but I think it will be a bigger deal.
And the other one was the overtime rules changing. So
in the playoffs, each team gets a chance to even
if the first team correct, right, So that's new, yes, correct, Yeah,
and it's still ten minutes. I believe.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
I always thought that was the most unfair thing in football.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
I mean, during the regular season, if you lose, if
you lose the coin to us, you lost the game
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah, and the last yeah, replay assist get some different alterations. Again,
the person in New York or whatever, wherever the people are,
they can't throw a flag on their own. But if
a flag was thrown, it was incorrect, like, for instance,

(55:30):
contact to the head, if clearly contact of the head
did not happen again, not subjective stuff where it grazed
her to this like it clearly didn't. They can pick
up that flag. So there is replay assist that added
to some of those respects. Yes, well that's.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Good because if there's just like a slight glancing blow
to the head of a quarterback and they've thrown a
and I mean just like you know, well the guy
just kind of just taps it on the way at
incidental contact or something, and they throw that that rough
in the pass or I mean, I mean that's kind
of they got to get rid of that ship.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
And sometimes what you get is a pass rusher clubbing
and he hits the shoulder, but the head wips back
and the rest of the head whiper. He's like, woa flag, right,
And if that happens where it's it's punched to the
shoulders something, they will pick up that flag if it
was shrong. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Also in the when like a cornerback or a safety
makes a hit on a receiver, they conceived that that
he hit him.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Here right, not wearing up right. That's another big one. Yep.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Well that's good because they need to clean that up
because these players work so hard at trying to clean
up the game because hey, they don't want to hurt
their their their their you know, brotherhood on the field.
Nobody wants to hurt hurt their brotherhood. I mean they
want to get let me get it straight. They want
to get a good shot in. Everyone likes that good shot,
but they want it to be a good, clean hit.

(56:53):
And sometimes the guy will dive down at the last second,
and they got they gotta do something for the.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Guys that dip their heads down last second.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Right, the defender should not be punished because I'm coming.
I'm like, all, I perfectly targeted, and then the guy
just drops his head and I hit his hand. I'm like, well, yeah,
but he he did it. He's the one who fell. Also.
So those are all the rule changes that happen. They're
not done yet. There is another owners meeting in May.
Tush push is expected to be banned. That's supposed to
be removed, and they're gonna change.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Be a penalty.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Do you know the two thousand and four correct They
used to have a penalty where the guy would take
I can't show you because I'm not wearing my my trousers.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I'm just in my underwear.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
But they would take you. Yeah, I'll show you.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
The penalty was aiding aiding the rusher and and it
was like kind of like this.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Both like both hands like this, and they'd go like
this pushing you know.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
That was it was a down lower but it was
like this, and that was the penalty.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
It was aiding a runner.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
That would be like if you bramped his shoulder pads
and help pull them, or if you push them.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Yeah, I see.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
I never agreed with that tush push rule because you
to be a penalty to help help a runner along
that the runner is supposed to gain the momentum and
the yard and on his own. You're not supposed to
have three offensive linemen behind him pushing them like.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I mean, this is not a rugby scrum. This is right,
this is American football. I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
So it sounds like they will go back to that
rule you're talking about that existed like pre two thousand
and four. They had that in then they changed it
and then no one had really taken full advantage of
it until we see we've seen the Eagles recently. The
latest momentum from the league suggest that they're going to
go back to that pre two thousand and four wording
where again you can't eat her a bed anymore. Maybe

(58:36):
they'll find a new way to do it, but it
sounds like the toush push will be removed. But just
sort of be aware there might be a couple other
rule changes or alterations. Right, they're on sidekick thing and
things of that nature.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
LA was also a penalty called hurdling.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Oh really, I forgot about that when you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Jump over a guy.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
I mean they used to have a lot of rules
in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
I mean they had a lot. They're doing all this
stuff to make the offense more dynamic.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Yeah, they don't want fourteen thirteen games.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Well for you know, they don't want that. They want
high scoring games.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
I mean they used to have a defensive back on
the Oakland Raiders Leicster than Molester Hayes. I mean, these guys,
these receivers and quarterbacks don't know how good they have
it now. Back in the seventies and eighties, you can maul.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
A guy running down the field. You your quarterback in
the backfield. Well, do you think Tom Brady would have.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Made it During the era of the Pittsburgh Steelers with
Terry Bradshaw and.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
All them guys.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Probably not when you're getting the forearms to the face.
I don't think so. But easy. I appreciate the call
and not dropping the camera any lower God bless America,
Thank you very much. Any who, let's go back to
the phone lines. Any jet Yer on the show many.

Speaker 12 (59:58):
Hey, good morning, beg two point two points when I
make here. You know, back in twenty twenty ten, twenty eleven,
you know our offensive line we had three first round
draft picks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Nick Man Gold, the Brick Show, Fercuson. Who is the third?
Who am I not thinking? Oh, Damien, what do you
I guess form a first round round Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:00:16):
Yeah, they met, whether we picked him or whether he
was better. But then if you look at the other two,
one was a ud if he was anymore, yeah, and
then the other one was a sixth round pick. And
look what, Look what our offensive line is built today.
We have three first round draft picks, we have a
second round draft pick and a third round I mean,
this has got to be probably one of the best
offensive lines once they and it may not be this year.

(01:00:39):
It's it may take a year, sure, yeah, and so
I fully expect at least you know, an AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
There you go, baby, That's what I'm talking about. I
love again because like at the end of the day,
offensive line play helps everything. It helps the run game,
it helps him protection. So if they're going to overkill
in a position, it's hard to complain of being offensive
line exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:01:02):
And then the second point, you know, last year's our
run defense was was well, I don't we didn't even
have one. I don't think if you can't say it
was bad, he just wasn't there. You know, you can't
say it's missing. You can't say it's missing when we
don't or it's bad, but it's just missing. But I

(01:01:22):
think the explanation of drafting that corner and then drafting
you know that the beast and Malachi Moore is that he,
you know, to stop the run, you've got to stack
the box. To be able to stack the box, you've
got to trust everybody to be one on one out there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (01:01:40):
And he's got he's the corners that we have and
the safeties that we have. He can put four out
there and any and in almost any combination, you know,
with Michael Carter Sauce, you know, and in almost any
combination that he has, he can leave them out on
at on an island, the entire defensive back staff and

(01:02:01):
continue to stack the box. Yes, we don't have a
that number one, you know run stopper, but you can
do that by by putting eight in a box consistently
and and having faith in your your your defensive backs
to say, hey, it's all it's all on you guys.
If they do pass it, you're out on your own.

(01:02:23):
But he, you know, he's got the guys that can
do it. So you know, I don't know, I don't
know if if we're I think that was a really
good that's if that's his plan, you know, it seems
logical to go, hey, I I you know the guy
that he drafted this year is the is the I

(01:02:44):
wouldn't says he's the Sauce Gardner, but his strengths are
one on one, no doubt. And so that's you know,
if you if he's just stacks the box and leaves
everybody out there right there right there, will will will
improve our our run defense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
And boy do we need that. Amen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:03:03):
So that's that's that's my theory on on on you
know and not drafting the the d lineman and and
and just helping out that secondary is you know, maybe
that's maybe that's his goal, is to leave these guys
out on an island and say, hey, we're going to
the rest of the team will stop the run.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Hopefully. Yeah. Well, but fingers crossed, because we've had a
lot of issues that Ashton Davis on that third level
of the defense having poor angles, poor tackles, and that
got really bad because when you were missing those tackles
there simple three four five yard plays turned into sixty
yard plays and seventy yard plays and fifty yard plays,
and those were devastating things that could have been bottled up.

(01:03:41):
So I hope you're right. I hope some of that
security on the second and third level of the defense now,
you know, kind of limits the ceiling of some of
those big boy runs.

Speaker 12 (01:03:49):
Yeah, and so you know, I don't know, but we'll see.
I think just having ag here is going to make
even if you took the same players that he had
last year, I mean, and not bring in anybody new,
the defense is better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yeah, we're gonna get fresh, new scheme, fresh new perspective.
Again with the coaching was so bad last year. The
agent has to be an upgrade by default, and I
have no idea what he's going to be as a
head coach. We're going to find out together. So by
default it's better. But how exactly exactly?

Speaker 12 (01:04:22):
I mean, yeah, it's you know, the defense wasn't it
wasn't that bad when Sala was there, but once he left,
you know, you'll brick just he had no business being
being in the in that role without Sala. So you know,
I think with ag there, you know, just with the defense,

(01:04:45):
I think that might default, like you said, will be
will be better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, all right, we appreciate your thanks, keep it up. Thanks, Yeah, thanks, Andy,
appreciate the call. We got seven hundred people in the room.
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(01:05:32):
Let's go back to the phone lines. Paul as in
Sceniya Draft Mania. Hop on, Pop the Legend joining us
here on the program.

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
Good morning, Pop, Hey, now it is good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Where yeah, where are you now?

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
I am I can see the Arabian golf. I could
hit a rock and I can't throw it very far.
Trade out my window.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
I'm also right next to four nuclear power plants.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Wow, okay, well make sure you're being careful on which
buttons you're pressing over there. Pop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Yeah, So, I'm glad you brought that up.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
You have invited this information, this story to the to
the coffee club universe.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I can't believe you did it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
You set yourself up. It's like a t ball so
quick story. Before I called it so as I was
retiring from the Navy. The Navy does retirement ceremony. As
part of the retirement ceremony, people came from all over.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
It's a prie. You know, they came from six or
seven different states. The family came. It was great and
as part of the.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
Day before my retirement ceremony, one of my proteges gave
my family a tour of the sub Unfortunately, if you,
I guess you didn't know whether it's just going. But
unfortunately his name is Mike Davis. Shout out to Mike Davies.
I'm sure he does not watch the show. But unfortunately,

(01:07:10):
boy Green who at that time, peep boo, peep boop.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
How old were you? Do you know? You know how
old you were?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I do not. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
Yeah, So to retire in two thousand and eight. The
ceremony was in February, so it was before your birthday.
So you are just about to be fifteen my math math, Yeah,
so you were fourteen and ten miles. Whenever you start
like I'm fourteen in three quarter, I don't know when
you stop doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
I'll tell you when you get older. You don't say
that like I'm ninety nine and a half.

Speaker 8 (01:07:42):
But anyways, actually, maybe when you're ninety nine you pick
it back up again like a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
You do it, and then when you're old to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:07:50):
But anyway, so on the tour he had to keep
telling boy Green, do not touch any buttons on the
nuclear submarine carrying ballistic missiles. And he had to and
there he was like Bart like, where you go to
touch this?

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Out out out And.

Speaker 8 (01:08:10):
So this is the or one of the origins of
the moron as he's on you want to turn a switch,
click a button on the submarine. And let's just say
that there's switches, a button you don't push. You don't
push them, and you attempted to push them repeatedly, repeatedly,
and repeat it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Well, maybe those buttons shouldn't have been easily accessible to
a four foot three, fourteen year old. That probably is
a malfunction on the nuclear ship. So quite frankly, really,
what you did was you allowed me to reveal the
vulnerabilities that are on this naval battleship. So you're welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:08:52):
Yeah, Mike almost threw you like a lawn dart off
the top of the submarine. So anyways, getting back to
my point, I've already given my breakdown of rounds one
through three.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
I'm i repeat myself from yesterday.

Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
I would like to briefly, by the way, I watch
all your videos great content if you haven't, I have
shared a few.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
I lost track because of the time difference, so that
was not great to see.

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
Them all live time. But I'd like to comment on
a selection and then a lack of a selection. And
so I'm not going to stand here and you know,
you know I and I said that before Aaron Glenn Mujie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Right, this is their Bailey Wick.

Speaker 8 (01:09:41):
Right, They're not going to come to the nuclear plant
and tell me give me some insights. But there are
some glaring things that they did. And again I talked
about the first three rounds, but the truly like baffling, baffling,
especially when they talked about like we're waiting for this
guy and we had to trade U and they lost picks,

(01:10:01):
Like why why why did they draft the guy from Stonehand?
From an unnecessary roughness stone Hands, So why did they
draft him or the guy because he and the other
characteris like is from the replacements will be both amazing
football movies. By the way, that they had wide receivers

(01:10:24):
with lightning speed that could not catch the football. So
why I get I was an advocate for someone that
they would get, someone that would stretch the field.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
But I wanted him to get someone that would stretch
the field, that would catch the fucking ball.

Speaker 8 (01:10:37):
I don't know. It's just weird. And he was pretty high. Fore,
you know, it's just odd. And you know, there have
been some amazing track stars that translated, some did not.
To the NFL bullet, Bob Hayes as an example, I
think he's in the Hall of Fame he translated. But
this kid this high, I just don't know, especially if

(01:11:01):
you're the Kansas City Chiefs here, you're the Philadelphia Eagles.
Sure we're going to take a shot, because you know what,
who cares, right, We're good. That's not where the Jets are.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
That one was very confusing, very eating.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I just wanted to pull up the you know, because
an interesting I was gonna say technique, but it's a
strategy or a review or a report card or whatever.
It's okay. The Jets took this receiver, the one you
mentioned is George Wide receiver Aaron Smith at won ten.
Who are all the receivers that they basically passed on
in that round and I have them all here. I
have the draft results that came in. So the Jets

(01:11:37):
took Aaron Smith again one ten overall, that was the
pick that they just had. They traded up later for
the safety in the fourth round. But here are the
other wide receivers that one of the range. I think
a lot of jet fans would have preferred. Jalen Lane,
he was the wide receiver of Virginia Tech ended up
going to the Washing Commanders. Smaller guy, five ten, one
hundred ninety one pounds. Excuse me, he went at wide receiver.

(01:11:58):
Jalen Royals, another very popular jet fan hoping thing it
was gonna happen. Six foot flat, two hundred five pounds.
He was a wide receiver out of a usedas state.
There was an I always butcher his name, but it's
Elic A al Manor. He was six foot two, two
hundred and six pounds. There was another one jet fans
were very high on. And then Jordan Watkins also went
there in the fourth round. He was the five for eleven,

(01:12:20):
one hundred ninety six pound wide receiver at Ole Miss
And I have to double check when this other guy went.
Maybe it was the fifth round because I had a
wide receiver target. Let me see if he ends up
being on here somewhere at Horton. I don't know where
he ended up going, so let me see if I
can find that real quick. There he is. So what

(01:12:41):
is this round? Let me make sure I get this right.
I believe it's fifth round. Yeah, so there you go.
The receiver I wanted ended up going to Seattle in
the middle of the fifth round. The Colorado state wide
receiver Tory Horton six foot, three hundred and ninety six pounds.
He missed basically the majority of last season with a
knee injury. He was the one that I really wanted
in the Jets pass couple times, used the pick after

(01:13:01):
Ronde Gadson. By the way, Rondy gads in the second
salute to you, my good sir, that's the one I wanted.
And then the Jets later in that fifth round traded
up for Tyler Bron, which ended up being their final pick.
So yeah, they passed on receivers that like, I just
didn't see it, But it seems like from muchI they
were just so infactuated with that speed because after the
draft they did this presser and Muji was asked, yeah,

(01:13:23):
he's really fast, but he had ten drops last year.
That's the only power for wide receiver that had double
digit drops in all of college football last year, Like, whoa,
what happened? And he's like, yeah, you know, that's that's
part of his game. And I'm like, part of his
game is dropping the football? What does that even mean?
So that answer of you know, that's sort of part
of his game, but we can work on this to
improve it. But hey, he's really fast though, and I

(01:13:46):
was like, okay, so we'll see. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:13:50):
The two glaring things outside of this offensive onto tackle
shore up, you know they must the reason. One thing
I can say with drafting Membo is they weren't the
charmed up with the OCUA four. They saw him as
the backup, not the other way around, which is fine.
But the two glaring things is a weapon and a fatty, right,
a weapon and a fatty, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
They really didn't get either one. Like those were two
of the bigger gaps. They had other gaps and apat
boop bop.

Speaker 8 (01:14:19):
Right, but some of the some of the holes they filled,
people didn't say that saw them as holes. And Moujie's
explanation that you played well while ago was goofy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
So no, we got a bunch of guys yeah, I
got a bunch of guys right. That to me wasn't
a riveting endorsement. So hey, you know, the question was basically,
you know, I don't know if they said this in
the question, but just it. This is one of the
richest defensive tackle drafts the last twenty years. Why do
you ignore the position? And went, well, you know, yeah, sure,

(01:14:52):
there's a lot of names the defensive tackle pull, but hey,
once you start eliminating guys for medical reasons, character reasons,
the group was a lot thinner, and uh yeah, we
have a lot of guys on this roster. They've played
in the NFL. And then I went like, oh, okay,
I didn't know that was the line, but okay, the
standard operating procedures have you played in the NFL for okay, great,

(01:15:13):
you're in like you're in the bouncer club. That part
I didn't really understand either, because like Derek Noddy, Okay, cool,
he's he's a professional, he's a multi time Super Bowl champion,
a key cock for the Chiefs of the majority of
his career. Last year he played like twenty percent of
the snaps, so him, okay, you got that. That made sense,
But the other guys were just Randos Byron Cowart Rando
J two Fele Rando again. Maybe they see something we don't.

(01:15:35):
They must, I guess, but I do like Leondard Taylor
the third. Again, I'll give another shout out to him.
He was an undrafted free agent last year, a lot
of potential, but again he's a really young, unproven guy too.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, and here's the problem, right, Yeah, they picked the
tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That they picked Mason Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Yep, Mason Taylor.

Speaker 8 (01:15:56):
Right, He's not, nor has he ever been, a machine
chewing up yard and she's not. He's a weapon, but
he's kind of like a dull weapon. You know, he's
every and and you know, you could have done other
things right, and like we gave up Darius I think
Alexander's his last name. He we could have gotten him right,

(01:16:18):
and then we could have gotten the mountain instead of
getting this cornerback that we really didn't need. I mean,
those are just some of the like the scratcher heads,
but you know, not getting the fatty and then some
of these other things were stretched.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
That's all I had to say.

Speaker 8 (01:16:30):
It's just you know, those are the ones that really
were head scratchers, you know, they know they evaluate talent.
I will say in Aaron, I trust, but there is
questions that need to be answered. And you know, at
the time you're playing football in college, you've either solved.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
The dropping problem where you're not going to frankly, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Well it sort of goes back to and again everyone
can be different. I suppose is you know Josh when
he came out of Wyoming, I'm like, wait a second.
So they're saying he couldn't complete passes at the college level.
How is suddenly going to do that at the NFL level.
No thinks he's gonna be a bust. And then he
figured it out, so some people do. But the catching
thing seems like a prerequisite to playing the position, and

(01:17:14):
if that's something he struggles with, they must believe that
it is a confidence issue. So we'll see if they
believe they can reframe that and see it for all
the purpose. I guess we never played this, so I
guess we can work this video in real quick. Chucky
John Gruden was a massive fan of the a of
Arian Smith. Here's him before the draft.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
All right, I'm gonna give you my sleeper. Now I'll
put this up here. Yes, Sir, this is a young
man that I know personally. He's been in here at
the FFCA. His name is Arian Smith. He plays at
the University of Georgia. This guy can roll man. This
guy runs sub four three. I know he has some
catch issues, some handsome drops, but I have seen this

(01:18:00):
guy working out, working his ass off. This guy can
change directions. He has rare acceleration.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
He can do the.

Speaker 6 (01:18:07):
One thing you can't coach.

Speaker 11 (01:18:08):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
He can rip the top off and he will strike
fearing people. He's got some strength. He's from right here
in the state of Florida. I know what I'm getting.
I'm getting an everyday worker that's going to get better
and better and better. And his effort is going to
help everything catch up. And when he comes into his
own Arian Smith is my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
His sleeper of the draft was Arian Smith. This was
before the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
How does he get out of the box all the time? Chucky?
There something sell Chuck. He's in a box.

Speaker 8 (01:18:42):
You know. He comes a little knife set. Now right,
here's the thing. He never has to catch a pass
to make an impact on the field. Right, you send him,
you send him deep and now you don't have you
can make two choices, Right, he's gonna drop ten times. Okay,
well I throw it to him, you know, fifty times

(01:19:02):
eighty percent of the time he's going to catch that ball, right,
and you've better you can't ignore him, you know, standing
in the end zone as he's running toward the end zone.
And now all of a sudden, Garrett Wilson's got a
little uh, he's got a little breathing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Run, you know. So, And yeah, I was just going
to add, to be honest, if he gets you once.
So let's say week one, right, the first play is
justin field's play action and he just run quarks like
a fifty yarder and let's say the kid catches it.
This was one of the ten times he catches the
ball and rips it. For the rest of the season.
In the back of mind is like, holy shit, this

(01:19:37):
guy whoa like we got to just even if it's
sliding a safety or just it's on the mind. And
then maybe again to Aaron Glenn talked about this at
the combine. What Jamel provided beyond the big plays is
the threat of the big play, which opened up the
underneath to eat. Which again, if you rip that once,
maybe that's all you need, and then that's the decoy

(01:19:57):
of it getting it and he.

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
Doesn't have to catch it. As far as I'm concerned,
he's just kidding. You know what I want you to do.
I want you to run as fast as you possibly can,
and I want you to be ten yards out in
the open. And then then the next play, I'm hitting
the ball the agent zero. When you back, you know,
you get six and a half men in the box
right then, where heavens now it's on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
You can't stack eight men in the box when you
know fly boy there.

Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
And again, if he catches it, great, If he doesn't,
the fear is still there right now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
So again that could be the thought process. Obviously, the
thought of him very highly to be the one hundred
tenth overall pick. Again, there are debates of where his
value as Connor Rogers had him as a sixth round pick,
Dave Brugler had him as a fifth round pick. But
if the Jets saw it again for me and again,
I know a lot of people hated day three of
the draft of the Jets. A lot of people gave
them a lot of props for day one and day two,

(01:20:58):
but day three, a lot of people are ripping them
to me, Darren and to anyone quite frankly, Darren Moogie
and Aaron Glenn have never burned me before. This draft
is the first draft I've seen, so it's hard for
me to say, ah, look they blew it again with
this kind of player. I don't know, they've never done
this before. So I'm entering this with a very open

(01:21:18):
mind and let's see what happens. There are players I liked,
There's players I'm like, hmm, all right, let's see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
So that's why you know how many games you have?
A many games were won this weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
You know me after mel Kiper's hair calms down from
all the ten pounds of hair jelly put in there,
and he's like, after all that shit, those draft grades
don't do you remember what the draft grade was in
twenty twenty three for the Jets or.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Twenty twenty four.

Speaker 8 (01:21:43):
Yeh, I'm on right, And we could go back and
look it up when the Jets had the phenomenal draft
where they got Garrett and Sauce and Breeze. When they
got that draft, they probably got a sea rating from that.
Moron right, And so it's when you don't really grade
the draft still two years down there, so there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Well, despite that, I hope you guys check out our
Draft Grade show coming out tomorrow morning at seven thirty
and they mean the best. Yeah. Yeah, that was ill timed,
ill timed quite quite but thanks Pop anyway, I appreciate that.
But in all seriousness, though, I appreciate you being on
the live show on Thursday. That was super cool. Again

(01:22:25):
for those who missed it, Pop gave his breakdown of
each of the selections yesterday through the top three rounds
and you've heard some of his Day three reaction to
and we'll continue that tomorrow again. Drew Batty, our draft analyst,
he'll be joining us and if you watch a YouTube short,
he thinks this offensive line could be one of the
best offensive lines in the league. So I highly recommend

(01:22:45):
seeing that mini clip as well. We'll post the full
Drew Bady interview from our live draft show coming up
as well. If you missed a Jerko Katchery, that interview
is up as well. That was that was terrific, So Pop,
thanks for all the support on the show. There was
a good Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
All right, well, thank you and enjoy your breakfast bonanza.
This today.

Speaker 8 (01:23:05):
I believe you're going to the infamous Maria's there and
as we go, so enjoy your birthday bonanza.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Burger bacon potatoes didn't start with a beat, so I'll
just stop there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Well, there you go. That's that's all right. I appreciate
the sport. Pop, thank you, and we'll see you soon,
see you later. There he is pop over as he
continues his world travel over there by the Arabian Sea.
Very nice. We have seven hundred people in the room.
Like the video hit subscribe baby, Let's keep this train
rolling up. Next the One and Only Ricky New York Live.

Speaker 9 (01:23:42):
Hey, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Paul Hazy Thomas that oh.

Speaker 9 (01:23:47):
Yeah, oh yeah, very happy about that.

Speaker 13 (01:23:50):
And let me just say, I know some people aren't
stoked about all of our picks, but just because a
guy is an unknown.

Speaker 9 (01:24:00):
Commodity doesn't mean he's nothing.

Speaker 13 (01:24:03):
We don't know what our coaches are going to develop
these players into. I've heard people saying that beyond the
first three picks, everybody was a reach.

Speaker 9 (01:24:12):
Not everybody was a reach, Okay, And.

Speaker 13 (01:24:17):
I tried to explain this the other day on the show,
Like when people get so caught up in these idiotic rankings,
because the thing about rankings is whether you're looking at
next Gen Stats or PFF or the ESPN ranked, they're
all different. The same guy is ranked different on each
of those websites. That's because each website evaluates in grades

(01:24:40):
by their own standards, and at the end of the day,
those are all just opinions. The only opinions that really
matter is the group of people that are evaluating that
are actually NFL teams and where they have the guys
ranked that with our last pick of the draft, we
got an edge and people who are like, oh, there
were better edges, well, it depends what you want.

Speaker 9 (01:25:02):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:25:03):
Some guys are pure pass rushers, other guys are, you know,
better against the run. Baron sets the edge against the
run very well. And you know what, we got our
JFM replacement with the last pick of the draft. That
isn't a bad pick. Now, I'll admit I was baffled

(01:25:26):
by the Arion Smith pick. I still don't quite understand it.
I'm not going to go quite as down on him
as some people because, like they said, you can't coach speed,
but some of the other problems he has can be
fixed through coaching and real quick. Sean Gruden pumps up
every kid who comes through his camp. So there's a

(01:25:48):
little bit of biath with that clip there. But I
want to say this, and you know, going back again
to the ranking thing. Uh, you know, you got to know,
you know, if you're talking interior defensive guys, are they
pass rushers?

Speaker 9 (01:26:04):
Are they run stuffers like like?

Speaker 13 (01:26:07):
You know? So yesterday the statement was made that we
shouldn't have taken a z Thomas because there was this
higher ranked corner still ahead of him, Shavan Revel.

Speaker 9 (01:26:18):
Shavan Revel is a zone corner. We play a man
press scheme. He does not fit our scheme.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
So injured, right, Yeah, and he's.

Speaker 9 (01:26:31):
Got injury concerns.

Speaker 8 (01:26:33):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:26:34):
There was an even more egregious statement that was made
that A Z Thomas could not even correct the starting
lineup of the worst team in the ACC until last year.

Speaker 9 (01:26:49):
Yeah, let me correct that falsehood right now.

Speaker 13 (01:26:53):
Yeah, Az did not start until last year because he
was behind two guys who are right now in the NFL,
Ronardo Green in San Francisco and Jari and Jones in Jacksonville.
That's why he didn't start until last year. And yes,
they were the last worst team in the ACC last year.
And guess what, while they were getting dog walked every

(01:27:16):
week fifty two to seven, you know, forty seven to ten,
fifty seven to nine, guess what, Assari A. Thomas gave
up one hundred and forty one yards and zero touchdowns
in man coverage the whole frigging year while his.

Speaker 9 (01:27:37):
Team was getting whooked.

Speaker 13 (01:27:38):
He was the only bright spot on that team, aside
from their kicker.

Speaker 9 (01:27:43):
The other thing is is why were they the worst
team in the ACC?

Speaker 13 (01:27:48):
Maybe because they lost their quarterback, their running back, their
top two receivers, their top two corners, their top two linebackers,
their best defensive end, their best defensive tackle, twelve guys
to the NFL the year before, which the year before
was an undefeated season. Uh, you don't lose twelve starters

(01:28:12):
to the NFL and then just come out whoop everybody's
ass the next year.

Speaker 9 (01:28:16):
That's not the way it works.

Speaker 13 (01:28:19):
So you know, you got to add a little bit
of context to those statements.

Speaker 9 (01:28:25):
But but yeah, man, like it.

Speaker 13 (01:28:27):
And trust me, Like I had people that, you know,
I would have liked Jalen Royals maybe as opposed to Smith,
but you know, like there were other shows that I
was watching where people are going, oh, I know he's
got character concerns, but Isaiah Man still, did you know what?
Nobody drafted him and as far as yeah, he hasn't
even been picked up as an undrafted free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Yeah, those allegations against him.

Speaker 13 (01:28:52):
Obviously teams did their work and they did not like
what they heard. Because I was one of those people going, well,
this late in the draft, maybe he's worth taking a
shot on, but obviously the legal end for him is
not looking good because nobody touched him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Yeah, it looks like he is unsigned still.

Speaker 13 (01:29:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a pretty big statement right right there,
that it's it's a shame too, because he's a very
talented player, uh, you know, and he would have been
one of those speed guys that we could have taken
to really take the top off, but unfortunately, you know,
and and this isn't like a oh there's some character concernedly,

(01:29:33):
like he's actually legally accused of doing something pretty hideous
and you know, if it's true, then it PROBABS made
a smart decision to stay.

Speaker 9 (01:29:41):
Away from him.

Speaker 13 (01:29:43):
But uh, you know what, and there were other guys,
you know, defensive tackle J. J.

Speaker 9 (01:29:48):
Pigeez. Other guys that I like later that I would
have hoped that we would have got.

Speaker 13 (01:29:51):
But I mean, honestly, Uh, you know, Kiko the linebacker,
I had to go back and watch, Like I mean,
I watched the ACC game, so I know I'd seen him,
but I couldn't really remember in what context. But uh,
one of the first clips was him coming on a
sack and getting Jordan Travis and Travis beating his fist

(01:30:12):
on the ground because he was pissed the guy actually
got him. Uh So that wasn't fun to watch. But uh, dude,
you know what, he's our new Chaz Sarah. Okay, he's
not sins.

Speaker 9 (01:30:23):
He's placed.

Speaker 13 (01:30:25):
Uh Like I said, Baron is our JFM replacement. He's
you know, we're not worried about starters at that rate.
These are depth guys, and I don't think that we
did necessarily bad for depth guys.

Speaker 8 (01:30:37):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:30:38):
Now more with a little development, he sounds like he
might be, you know, more long term plan than than
just a depth guy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:30:47):
The other curious thing, which I don't know if you
missed it or not, when they were talking about Arion
Smith playing special teams, they said the word They said
the word gunner over and over again.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Oh I did miss that.

Speaker 13 (01:31:01):
Okay, Yeah, so like I was, because at first I
was thinking return guy too. But he's got a really
slight frame, so you might not want him taking a
lot of hits for sure. Yeah, they were saying gunner
quite a bit. So ye, I'll tell you what. Well,
you know, if he can be a really good fast
gunner on one side, we've got IRB. Charles on the other,
that's a pretty nice, uh set of gunners that we

(01:31:22):
would have.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
So because people forget that Brandon Eckles was our top
was one of our top gunners, he's gone and then
Ir Charles obviously got hurt seriously at the end of
the year, so we're missing both of our gunners right now.
So yeah, that's a that's a sneaky need that obviously
no one talks about on any shows. So interesting. I
like that.

Speaker 13 (01:31:39):
Yeah, And I know some people don't see the logic
and us taking a corner.

Speaker 9 (01:31:42):
But let me tell you what.

Speaker 13 (01:31:43):
Remember those interceptions that that Eckles had against Miami, Like everything,
we played them basically, dude, Techles played a lot of
snaps for us. He played a lot of snaps for us,
and as he is going to play a lot of
snaps for us in that Eckles role. Now, I think
there's going to be certain definite passing situations where they're

(01:32:04):
going to slide asy outside, move Stevens over to safety
when we have those three safety looks when we got fined.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yuh.

Speaker 9 (01:32:14):
And from you know.

Speaker 13 (01:32:15):
I mean, I'm kind of reading between the lines, but
from listening to those two guys talk, it sounded to
me like that's the plan they have for them, which
which makes a lot of sense. So because I mean,
I know with Saulad we played five dvs a lot,
so uh, you know, I know this is a different scheme,
different leadership, but you know, in obvious passing situations, I

(01:32:37):
could see a lot of those same things still applying.

Speaker 9 (01:32:42):
But yeah, man, like we we don't know what any
of these kids are going to be.

Speaker 13 (01:32:45):
But I'll tell you what a funny story about as
a uh excuse.

Speaker 9 (01:32:51):
Me, yes, sorry, Thomas Uh not last.

Speaker 13 (01:32:56):
Year, but the year before he gave up a pass
when we played the University of Florida and I was screaming.

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
At the TV and cussing him out.

Speaker 13 (01:33:06):
Even have thought he was the biggest bumb ever, but
being that that's a rivalry game, you know, Uh, dude,
we were Lenardo Green was throwing a shutout versus Ricky
pearsol zero catches for zero yards.

Speaker 9 (01:33:23):
And then at the very end of the game when.

Speaker 13 (01:33:25):
We brought our backups in, he got Azari, which Azari
almost picked the ball, but you know he should have
just swatted it down. But Pears all ended up with
one catch for nineteen years. And Thomas gave up that
one catch and I was yelling at him because I
wanted the no catch game, like I wanted to no hitter.

Speaker 9 (01:33:46):
Uh you know.

Speaker 13 (01:33:47):
But but dude, like Green did that that everybody he
held uh neighbors to like two catches for eighteen yards,
Like he shut down everybody that year. And uh, you
know that's one of the reasons, as he didn't see
the field until now.

Speaker 9 (01:34:05):
But he's like, you know what, he's like a nice mixture.

Speaker 13 (01:34:11):
He's a lot like Cramarti, long, tall, fast like that.
It was physical at the line like and don't get
me wrong, I am in no way comparing him to
Revis but the way he plays at the line, like
a lot of cornerbacks can get a good punch you
know with the receiver on the line. Dude, he's got

(01:34:32):
this two hand punch that like even AG was talking about.
He's like Noise can do that. He's so physical with
guys at the line, and I think that's just a
really nice combination. That guy sticks to you like Glue.
We got ourselves a hell of a good player and
I'm really really happy and going back.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I hate seeing him go to the New England Patriots.

Speaker 9 (01:34:58):
You know what I do too.

Speaker 13 (01:35:00):
But I was just about to say, in a year
where every single thing went wrong for that team last year,
a Z still held his own and put up great
stats and did his job, but stuck to guys like
Glue Joshua Farmer, and I like the kid.

Speaker 9 (01:35:15):
He's a good kid.

Speaker 13 (01:35:16):
However, he was extremely disappointing to me last year. But
likely we had all these big ideas, you know, him
and Darryl Jackson, the twin towers next to each other.

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
No one's going to be able to run against us,
and we were a sieve.

Speaker 13 (01:35:33):
It started out with Georgia Tech the first game of
the year, like over three hundred rushing yards they put
up against us, and every team that ran all over them,
their defensive line was friggin' atrosis. It was awful, and
you know what, unfortunately they picked.

Speaker 9 (01:35:52):
The wrong quarterback.

Speaker 13 (01:35:53):
The kid was probably one of the worst I've ever seen.
Went ahead and paid those extra few bucks to camp
Ward and l I nil money because we had him
there plenty and he liked this. But we decided to
go to the bargain route and we paid the price
for it.

Speaker 9 (01:36:10):
But you know, now we have Ozzie's.

Speaker 13 (01:36:12):
Old teammate, Thomas Costellona, a quarterback from BC, and we
got a good quarterback again, so we'll be back. But
you know what, the Jets will be back to. I
got complete faith in this coaching staff. And you know what,
if I was in a sub I would listen to
your dad and not.

Speaker 9 (01:36:32):
To touch the buttons.

Speaker 13 (01:36:35):
However, when it comes to football, I'm gonna trust ag
over your pops, and I'm gonna.

Speaker 9 (01:36:41):
Trust their ability to develop these guys.

Speaker 13 (01:36:43):
So, you know, just like a a g wouldn't come
in my work and tell me how to really rebuild
an engine, I'm not going to tell him how to
rebuild this team.

Speaker 9 (01:36:52):
Guy knows what the hell he's doing.

Speaker 13 (01:36:54):
And by the way, real quick about that offensive line.
Uh back in the late nineties early two thousands, Curtis
Martin ran for over one thousand yards for a decade straight.
We had one of the defensive offensive lines in football.
You know how many first round picks we had on
that offensive line with the Beanie and Ferguson and Mawai and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Zero ZiLs.

Speaker 13 (01:37:20):
Wow, there were no first round picks. They were just
all damn good football players. So it ain't where your pick,
it's what you do afterward. So you know, first round
is nice, but it doesn't make you an automatic success.
You got to go out there and prove it every day.
So you know what fingers crossed. You know, ag said,

(01:37:43):
we just want to get good football players, and hopefully
that's what we got.

Speaker 9 (01:37:47):
Go Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Amen, Ricky, thanks for the call, love the insights, one
of our great callers. Absolutely the one thing I want
to say, I thought iron Tonious said it when I
was talking about linebacker depth. Obviously, have Jamien Sherwood and
Quincy Williams is their starters, and then some of the
guys Chas Surratt, who I mentioned a lot, is still

(01:38:10):
a free agent and so former solid guy, so I
doubt he's coming back. So he is a free Sam
mcguavin is another one. He is not on the team.
He's an unrestricted free agent. Here is the off ball
linebacker depth. Just to bring it all the way through,
I think aainst Syra Barnes I did mention him. You
got Jimmy Chew Chew Charlow, the Army player. He tore
his a cl so well last year. I believe that

(01:38:33):
was in training camp, so we'll see if how Jimmy recovers.
You have jam and Jamine Davis, the former first round
pick at a Kentucky Marcellino McCrary ball. He's the Indiana kid.
You got Jackson Sermon, the California kid, And then obviously
have Jamien Sherwood and Quincy Williams. They have Jermaine Less

(01:38:53):
that linebacker. But again he's going to be well, we'll say,
I guess what scheme. I don't want to speak out
of turn, but he'll be playing more soive end. But again,
depending on the schematic, he could be a stand up
pass rusher, but we'll see. But there you go. That
is the off ball linebacker def Then obviously the latest
rookie draft pick, which is Keiko out of Miami, as
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(01:39:59):
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