May 29, 2024 • 27 mins
We are concluding our visit to pre-covid 2018 in today's encore episode, the second part to an amazing show exploring how animals can be used as therapeutic ways to get past blocks, heal trauma, and improve our physical and mental health. Julie has a wonderful convo with Equine Assisted Learning specialist Sandra Dee Robinson in this special two-part encore presentation of Brain Lady Speaks.
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Welcome back everyone to the encore presentationof My Therapist is Paid in Hay with
Sandra d Robinson. This is parttwo. I am Pinky Kelly Cooper,
the pinky to our brain Lady JulieAnderson's brain. Hey, please and thank
you. Reminder that this is theshow is over six years old, so
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please forgive the audio not being ascrisp as you may be used to brain
Lady speaks being, but we thankyou for your patience. Just turn up
that volume and enjoy the show.It is something that I would assume because
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I get this sometimes when I'm justtalking with people about different things that I
do, they'll kind of cock theirhead and look at me with this give
me the body language of I don'tbelieve you. This is wo wo right,
this is yeah yeah yeah, Sojust go ahead and address that right
now. Some people refer to thisany of these equaline types of uh processes,
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or or even different animals, butfor you, specifically the equine.
What what's your work? Give usthe science because that's what I love.
I love that brain science. Butwhy is this working? Oh yeah,
I'm so glad that you asked that. That's actually how I start off my
my my orientation. When people cometo the farm, as I say,
I know, you may think this, you know someone, you may have
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an idea. This is woo,this is fluff, I said, And
a lot of people will describe theexperience as being words like magic. It's
not magic, it's science. Itmay feel like magic. But one of
the things that we learned about horses, and and even just the way they
communicate is also comes into play too. But one of the things we learned
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about horses is just their electromagnetic field. There is a place called Heart Math
Institute, and they measure electromagnetic fieldsof so many different animals, different things.
Every animal, every living thing hasan electromagnetic field, and horses have
one that is eight times larger thanhours. Well they're larger than hours,
so that may not be so surprising, but it is a little It is
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pretty on inspiring when you get allof them together. Because the second the
second piece of that, and wesense these electromagnetic fields, we react to
them, hours will bump into them. It's kind of a weird thing to
study, but it's quite fascinating ifyou're into that kind of thing. And
the interesting thing about it is thatif you have, say an elevate.
They've done this test, and they'vedone these studies many times where they've taken
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a human with an elevated heart rateand elevated blood pressure and place them into
a herd of horses who are usuallycalm. Ninety eight percent of the time
horses are in a very calm state. Their heart rate is about twenty two
to forty four beats per minute.That's really low, and they're just happy
grazing. They can raise that heartrate to two hundred and thirty within seconds
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and take off because the only thingthey really have to save themselves is speed,
so they have to be able topick up and move that big body
and escape the predator. So that'show their bodies work. But generally they're
very calm, and if you canplace a human in a herd surrounded by
their electromagnetic field, their heart rateis actually compassionate. In other words,
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they have shown that it will reducethe human's heart rate and it will reduce
their blood pressure measurably. So whenwe talk about feeling better as horse girls
feel better when were the worker,there's actually scientific proof of why that happens.
So that's one of the reasons thatpeople feel that relaxation. I have
some women that come in, anda lot of the women I have that
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are drawn to this are at thetop of their game. From outward appearances,
they're very successful. They're usually theleader of some charity or some board,
or they volunteer. They very rarelywill say no. Some of these
women they just say yes to everything, which puts them in a very stressful
state. And in some ways theyfeel very isolated because they're the go to
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for everyone else. So sometimes they'llcome in and that's what their benefit of
being with the horses is. They'llwalk and I said, go, you
know, spend some time, getto know this particular partner that you've chosen,
because they choose the horse there workingwith. And I have had women
to come in and just hang onthe horse, and the horse will literally
come over and support them and tohold up their weight, and they literally
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do that to take a breath.They don't know why they're doing it.
They said, I just want tostand here. I said, fine,
And they can stand there for twentyminutes if they want. It's that's what
they need at that time, andit's not woo woo what is happening is
they're actually literally taking deeper breaths,probably than they have been for a very
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long time. They're allowing that energyto flow in and out of them,
so that horse's heart they literally willhang without knowing it, they will hang
on the neck of the horse,right up against their hearts if they subconsciously
know. Like, I'm a Godgirl, So I think that it's like
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God puts that in place for themso that they can feel what it's like
to be supported. And I havehad women in tears say to me,
I felt supported, and I said, well, that's what God just did
for you. That's why you're here. Now, let's talk about how you
can move from that. You can'tchange somebody's perception or somebody's thought processes if
they are on full in defense ofall the time. Hence the isolation is
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because they're in a power position allthe time and you can't get it's hard
for them to let down, tobreathe, to be able to find that
space to think of how they canbetter enhance their life because everybody's always looking
at them as a leader. Sothat little piece of relaxation and opening up
and breathing is something that is whatsomebody might think, well, that's will
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No, it's actually really necessary forsome of these women. It's necessary.
Some of the other things that wediscovered is the way they react, of
course to energy, and we're talkingabout that that energy we react off of
as well. There's a pressure andrelease that we have and this is one
of the modalities that we talk about, pressure and release. If you have
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horses, as Julian no, youdo. It's one of the ways that
we train horses because it's how theymove naturally in the herd. If they
want to move a horse out oftheir way, they literally bring their energy.
We talked about their energy field,their electrodegnity feel They literally bring this
energy that says get off that grass, I want it, and the other
horse will move. Usually we're prettypeaceful about the whole thing. We do
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the same thing. We react offof energy and force all the time,
and to relieve that we will reactin certain ways, asking for what we
want, receiving what we need.This is all the same idea, this
natural principle of pressure and release.And if you're thinking I don't get it,
let me give you a really goodexample. You go to networking events,
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somebody puts their hand out to you, that's pressure. You relieve the
pressure by taking their hand. Ifyou didn't take somebody's hand, is there
awkward pressure in the room. Yes, that's a social pressure, that's an
awkwardness that's creating discomfort. So youalleviate that by putting your hand in theirs
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and shaking their hands. That's asimple example of pressure in release in human
life. So those are the thingsthat we work with. When you're working
with the horses, you can seeif you're too aggressive and asking for something,
they'll react and they'll they'll leave,you won't be successful, and you
go, Okay, I need toturn this down. I've had people that
are very assertive women coming and notrealize and I was one of them.
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This was one of my lessons,not realize that I can ask for things
in a different way. I don'thave in essence yell or shout, And
even with the horse, I wasn'tyelling or shouting, but in body language,
I was, Yeah, so wecan tone it down, we can
change the way, we can changethe way we lead. I had an
executive here from one of the largestcorporations in Austin, and she has a
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global group that she manages. Andshe came in and she chose one of
my most powerful horses. And sheis a great leader. I mean she
just walks in the room and shecommands respect. And she chose one of
my biggest, strongest horses. Andso I want to make her run.
I'm like, okay, so itdoesn't take much. And she gets this
horse as a barrel horse, soshe loves to run. So she's got
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this horse running and the dust isflying and the women that aren't horse people
are like freaking out. She's totallysafe in there, and I know this.
And she's running after the horse andshe stopped and she's out of breath,
and she says, I am soexhausted. I thought I was in
shape. I don't know why I'mso exhausted. And the horse is still
running, by the way, andI yelled over the horse to her,
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what did you want to do?And she said I wanted her to run.
Before she finished the words, sherealized she had what she was asking
for and she was running after itanyway, literally physically, she said.
I she said, this is whyI'm so tired at work. I do
this at work. I run afterpeople after I give them their assignments,
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when they're doing the work, Ineed to just let them go and I
can stand back. I said,well, you know, call her to
you know, and just like thatshe reconnected with a horse. The horse
stopped and came to her and Isaid, what did you What is your
lesson? And she said that I'mworking way too hard. I can leave
them and then once they they getit. It's like when you're training your
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child with two wheel bike. Atsome point you take the training wheels off.
You can push them, make surethat they're safe, but you're not
going to continually run after them downthe street. They have to be able
to complete that on their own.And that's one of the things that as
a leader you have to learn todo. So it's amazing the metaphorical things
it will show up up. Andthe way we treat the relationship with a
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partner in the round pen, whichis where we work with the horses,
is since so many ways the waywe treat people in life, whether it's
business or personal. I've had womencome in and try to deal with their
love relationships, and I've had I'vehad horses that are the sweetest. I've
had one horse who is the sweetesthorse in the world. And he started
nipping at this woman and like nippingher clothing, tugging on things, getting
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in her space, and every timethat he would do something offensive like this,
which was totally out of his character. By the way, this is
a horse I own. And I'mlooking at my husband like, can you
believe this? He's doing this?And he kept pushing her and getting in
her space and being very obnoxious,and she was petting him the whole time.
And you know, he's really inyours. It seems he's really taking
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some advantage of your space. Andshe said, yes, he is.
I probably shouldn't let him do that, and she put him yep, and
her best yes, and her bestfriend. Now, ladies, if any
of this as you, you cantake a lesson from this. Her best
friend with her and her best friend. I'm focused on the person in the
arena. I'm not looking at thecrowd. My focus is on whoever is
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working with course, But i cansee in my peripheral this woman is jumping
up and down. I'm like,her friend's so excited. And it turns
out later when we did the wrapup that her friend and a woman admitted
it. The woman was single andshe was repeatedly dating men that walked all
over her and powerful in her worklife, but was way too submissive,
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didn't put her boundaries in place forher personal life, and she was getting
into trouble and sometimes the men wouldget abusive. Yeah, and this was
a clear example. So she shewas like, I can't wait to come
back, and I want to workon my boundaries and I want to stand
up for myself. And that willtranslate into how she handles the next situation
when somebody starts to get into herspace and push past her boundaries, she'll
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be able to stand up for thatand say no, that this is not
cool. So really really fun stuff, you know. And it's hard for
women that are leaders to know wherethe boundaries should be. Sometimes it's hard
for us to ask for things thatwe want, and it's hard for us
believe it or not to receive thingsbecause women that are success focused are so
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if we're single and I did this, I did this, and I was
proud of it. I'd sit down, I'd go on a date with somebody,
the check would come, I go, oh, I got my hat
or I got. Now, ifyou want to be the caretaker for your
guy and your partner, I stilldo that with my husband. Maybe I
need to come down to work withyour horses. Well, here's the thing.
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It's your choice. And if theway I look at it is this,
if you want to be the provider, go ahead and pick up that
check when you first meet the guy. You're going to set the president if
that's what you do. If youwant to be taken care of, and
that actually should If you're feminine andyou want to you want to fill adored,
you have to choose between being adoredand respect it. This is a
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whole nother topic, but if youwant to fill a doored, it's so
hey to let him pay for that, let him buy you a drink,
let him buy that dinner, andbe grateful and say thank you so much.
Then actually, we'll make a masculineperson, male or female, but
somebody that is of that masculine tendency. It will make them feel good to
be able to do that for you. And we sometimes don't receive that.
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We don't receive. We like no, I can prove that you don't need
to prove in certain circumstances you canjust accept and feel good. And there
are times that I see working withwomen that we have a really difficult time
doing that. We have a difficulttime receiving our self care time. If
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somebody says, hey, let's goget a manicure, we go. I
don't have time. Hey, wellwe go to lunch. You know,
I don't have time receive that.That is a friendship, it is a
gift. It is time, qualitytime with another human. We need to
be able to receive that that's goodfor us. And there's times that we
get so wrapped up and so driventhat we don't do that. I think
this is definitely I feel it isdefinitely a problem that exists more in the
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female world than it does in themale world, especially for entrepreneurs and corporate
leaders. That that's both X chromosomes, you know, because you mentioned actually
owning owning your female traits as opposedto trying to become adapt to the male
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world, and in doing it,when you do this, it messes with
your brain because your brain's going,wait a minute, this isn't the way
I work. My brain's not wired. I feel like it's short circuits.
You know. Is there anything thatactually short circuits in there. That's what
I feel like, Yeah, yeah, you know, your brain's going,
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wait a minute, this doesn't work, and it's so much harder literally because
you know me, I talk alot about that energy spend. It's your
advantage that you have in your brain. And when you're as a woman,
when you're trying to act like aman emotionally speaking, it's taking a lot
of extra energy. It's literally burningmore glucose second per second because that's we
have to do so much extra inour brain to achieve that. And I
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love that when you're working with womenand these horses, they're able to You
were giving the story of the womanwho leaned against the horse. That's so
beautiful because they're able to go,Okay, wait, I don't have to
be the tough one here. Idon't have to be the strong tower.
I can lean on somebody else.And oftentimes we as women, we pick
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up that those rains you know,pardon the punt, know, we pick
that up and we just we doit because we're doers, you know,
And yes, and that damages ourbrain because then we get into that host
psychonary immunology thing about our deep emotionsand our deep self talk and how that
affects our our help. So Ijust I am loving, loving all of
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this. So you kind of touchedon we go ahead, go ahead,
No, I'm just going to saythere's one thing that I want to get
you in a conversation about. It'sone of the modalities we talk about,
and it's a female strength. Meanthave it too. I mean, the
Army is actually trying to harness away to train this intuition. Yeah,
because when we get into that masculinespace, and as you were saying,
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we try to downplay those, youknow, the feminine traits, we lose
touch with that. And it's oneof our strongest things that we can easily
access, that intuition, that thatsixth sense, that that ability to plug
in and know is this the rightdecision for me? Is this the right
person to bring into my environment?We get that gut feeling and knowing.
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One of the things that we talkabout too, is that that mind body
that the mind is, the brainis not just in your noggin. It's
actually reacting to different neurons that areall through your system. And so if
you literally disconnect you know, orI should say, figure it you know,
literally, but if you figuratively orvirtually try to disconnect your thoughts from
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what you're feeling in your gut,it's it's gonna make you a it's probably
gonna make you sick, and you'regonna be very unhappy and very very stressed.
So one of the first things thatwe do people come and choose the
horse they're working with, and that'san intuition exercise. Now, I wonder
do you do you agree that whenwe get into that masculine headspace that we
can lose that intuition absolutely, onehundred percent. So just for the listeners
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really quick when we're talking about intuition, because that's another thing that for the
longest time it was like, ohwait a minute, that's wu wu.
That's magical that they have literally neurosciencecan scan it have identified in the brain
itself what they call the home ofintuition. So this is the portion of
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your brain that just fires incredibly whenyou are doing intuitive thinking and science.
And typically here's one of the bigdifferences between the male brain and the female
brain. The male brain is veryor the female brain is very global.
They have a larger corpus colosum thison average, on average, and this
allows them to activate and jump fromside to side, hemisphere to hemisphere,
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front to back with extreme speed anda lot of ease. I kind of
compare it to the you know,a major Los Angeles interchange freeway where you've
got on ramps and off remps andthis freeway and that freeway and this,
you know, going all over theplace. Men have more. Men have
a two lane country road right,and it's just this corpus colosum. It's
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just this quiet, little easy place, so they don't spend as much energy
jumping all over the brain. Technically, what you're doing when you are using
and this happens subconsciously. This happenswithout you processing its step. It just
happens with intuition your brain in thatinstant when you walk into that room,
or when you when you're thinking aboutsomething and you're going, ooh, this
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doesn't feel right or whatever the situationis. What your brain has done in
nanoseconds is pulled together little tiny,teeny bits of information from every quadrant of
your brain with extreme speed and thatand then that front right portion of the
brain just pulls all that information togetherand goes This is the direction we need
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to go. So it is incrediblyscientific, and yes, you are absolutely
right. Because of this major LosAngeles you know, metropolitan freeway system that
women have in their brain, theyaccess it with a greater amount of ease.
Men can do it too, likeyou said, men can do it
too. It's just in terms ofthis energy expenditure in the brain, women
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can do it with a greater amountof ease. And you're right, that's
something that we're often told you no, do it, factually, don't go
here, you know, And yetthat's that's a huge benefit. In corporate
settings, that's a huge benefit.If you are in business as an entrepreneur,
that's a huge benefit. You're whyare you child's sick? Yes,
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exactly. But what they've repeatedly,I mean for decades they've asked the question
of fortune five hundred leaders and CEOsand c suites, how do you make
your most important decisions? And theyhave said, I will look at the
facts and the figures essentially, andthen my final thing is I go with
my gut, I go with myheart, I go with and that's what
they say. So there really issome at that point if you want to
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say shame me the facts and figuresyou can literally find them for the people
that really trust that. And nowwe have the armed forces thinking, okay,
we have studied and particularly using soldiersin Afghanistans where it's very violent and
there are surprise attacks, and allof this they have saved. There has
been a team member or two thathas had a gut feeling and reacted to
it, and in essence, whathe's doing is taking all of those teeny
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tiny business informations and instantly reacting andsaving a lot of times saving that team
from complete demise because they reacted beforeanything that even happened and they said,
well, it was in my gut. So so many soldiers have said that
that's what saves them or saved savedtheir team, or what gave them a
heads up was actually a gut feeling. That the army is now trying to
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figure out how they can harness thisinformation and train it. Now, just
bring in more women, but whatever, more women as leaders. Yes,
yeah, exactly that, but itis it's really interesting to see women that
some of them will come and instantlygo yes, I know, and I
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feel it here in my body becausea lot of times it will show up
maybe as a word to them asa message, but a lot of times
it shows up as a feeling intheir body anywhere from the gut, their
heart, their chests, their neck, They'll get shivers. There's ways that
they get this information. And thenwe have some women that have actually shut
it down and I do a sixweek course where we kind of tap into
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that and it's interesting. But withina couple of weeks they'll start to realize,
oh, you know what I did, used to have that and it
is working for me. And theycan literally go back in and reaccess it.
Which is cool that if you thinkyou've lost it, you don't.
It's not a permanent loss. Youcan get back to it and you can
learn to trust it. It's oneof the one of the big advantages that
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we have as women. It isso true. I hate to do this
because I could continue on for anotherhour with you easily easily, but I
want We've got like barely five minutes. I want you to tell us.
I want everyone to connect to it. They needless to say. You can
you now know why I'm so excitedand why I was so excited at the
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beginning of the show. You havethis amazing woman on and her not only
her knowledge base, but what thispersonal experience combined with what she's doing with
her you know, her programs.So first you have a special offer and
there is a link. All thelinks should be hot. I will check
them after the show. Should beready to go on the show show page,
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but I will check just to makesure you have a sneak peak of
two chapters of your multimedia book thatreally click like thirty seconds. Yeah,
it's going to be forgiveness, y'all, because this is a real sneak peak,
Like we are putting this thing together, so I wanted to give you
something that nobody else has. Sowe have a couple of chapters, so
it'll be a link there click onthat. And more than that, I
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also want you to be part ofthe community to see what's going on.
So if you can go to Charismaticcowgirldot com, you'll see there's a little
thing where you can say, sendme information about events. You can actually
find out when I'll be doing liveevents. We have the six week program
that we're going to be launching,which you'll enable you no matter where you
are, to tap into the horses. And I'm looking to get out to
California to Julie. So we'll haveto plan something together when I'm out there
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and maybe do a little you know, maybe some video or do something a
little event or something with the horses. Wouldn't that be fun? Oh?
That would be amazing. That wouldbe amazing. So we're going to do
this and you're going to be seeinglots of this, so definitely, and
that that link is on a showpage, it should be clickable. Like
I said, I'll make sure youalso have you had mentioned a Wine and
Equine event real quick, tell usagain, kind of run us through what
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that is again. Yeah, ifyou go to charismaticcowgirl dot com, that's
the events. It says, getme on the event lift. That'll give
you it heads up notice of thenext one's coming. We can do private
groups in the same way, butwe do a public introduction, fun evening
with the horses called Wine and Equinebecause ladies like wine. So if you
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don't drink wine, you can youcan, you know, drink sparkling water.
It's totally fine. It's not reallyabout that, but it's about just
that relaxation and that state of mindthat we get into when we're sitting with
wine and cheese and talking about theexperience afterwards. So it's three hours with
the horses. You literally come tomy farm. So you can find out
more about that if you go tocharismticcowgirl dot com. And if you're in
the era you want to fly in. This Saturday, we're having one.
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We have folks going there from Californiaand Houston, and so it's fun.
It's a fun it's a fun time. I'm gonna have to get on that
list just to keep it because Iwant to do that. Sandra, thank
you so very much for being onthe program today. Obviously the listeners could
tell we could go on talking brainsand animals and horses, and I would
love to be able to have youon again and talk about some of you
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When we had talked offline, youknow, you had talked about other animal
studies that you have that you findvery interesting. So hopefully we can have
you back on the show as arepeat guest. And thank you so so
so very much for being on theprogram today. Thank you, Thank you
everybody. Have an awesome day.Amazing. You can all see why I
was just so excited about having heron the program. She is just amazing.
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All right, well, I gotto wrap this up. I am
so sad that it feels like itwas fifteen minutes for me. So thank
you very much for tuning into theBrain Lady Speaks radio shows. Oh,
thank you everybody for joining us forthis on care presentation of my therapist is
paid. And hey, the surprisingway horses can help us with Sandra d
Robinson. What a great show.So I would like to thank everybody for
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joining us today. Remind everybody tofollow Julie on all of your social channels
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has a brain can benefit from thisincredible information. So I will wrap it
up, and, like Julie likesto end all of her shows, let's
take a nice deep breath, goout there and enjoy every moment. See
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you next week. S
Welcome back everyone to the encore presentationof My Therapist is Paid in Hay with
Sandra d Robinson. This is parttwo. I am Pinky Kelly Cooper,
the pinky to our brain Lady JulieAnderson's brain. Hey, please and thank
you. Reminder that this is theshow is over six years old, so
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please forgive the audio not being ascrisp as you may be used to brain
Lady speaks being, but we thankyou for your patience. Just turn up
that volume and enjoy the show.It is something that I would assume because
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I get this sometimes when I'm justtalking with people about different things that I
do, they'll kind of cock theirhead and look at me with this give
me the body language of I don'tbelieve you. This is wo wo right,
this is yeah yeah yeah, Sojust go ahead and address that right
now. Some people refer to thisany of these equaline types of uh processes,
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or or even different animals, butfor you, specifically the equine.
What what's your work? Give usthe science because that's what I love.
I love that brain science. Butwhy is this working? Oh yeah,
I'm so glad that you asked that. That's actually how I start off my
my my orientation. When people cometo the farm, as I say,
I know, you may think this, you know someone, you may have
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an idea. This is woo,this is fluff, I said, And
a lot of people will describe theexperience as being words like magic. It's
not magic, it's science. Itmay feel like magic. But one of
the things that we learned about horses, and and even just the way they
communicate is also comes into play too. But one of the things we learned
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about horses is just their electromagnetic field. There is a place called Heart Math
Institute, and they measure electromagnetic fieldsof so many different animals, different things.
Every animal, every living thing hasan electromagnetic field, and horses have
one that is eight times larger thanhours. Well they're larger than hours,
so that may not be so surprising, but it is a little It is
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pretty on inspiring when you get allof them together. Because the second the
second piece of that, and wesense these electromagnetic fields, we react to
them, hours will bump into them. It's kind of a weird thing to
study, but it's quite fascinating ifyou're into that kind of thing. And
the interesting thing about it is thatif you have, say an elevate.
They've done this test, and they'vedone these studies many times where they've taken
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a human with an elevated heart rateand elevated blood pressure and place them into
a herd of horses who are usuallycalm. Ninety eight percent of the time
horses are in a very calm state. Their heart rate is about twenty two
to forty four beats per minute.That's really low, and they're just happy
grazing. They can raise that heartrate to two hundred and thirty within seconds
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and take off because the only thingthey really have to save themselves is speed,
so they have to be able topick up and move that big body
and escape the predator. So that'show their bodies work. But generally they're
very calm, and if you canplace a human in a herd surrounded by
their electromagnetic field, their heart rateis actually compassionate. In other words,
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they have shown that it will reducethe human's heart rate and it will reduce
their blood pressure measurably. So whenwe talk about feeling better as horse girls
feel better when were the worker,there's actually scientific proof of why that happens.
So that's one of the reasons thatpeople feel that relaxation. I have
some women that come in, anda lot of the women I have that
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are drawn to this are at thetop of their game. From outward appearances,
they're very successful. They're usually theleader of some charity or some board,
or they volunteer. They very rarelywill say no. Some of these
women they just say yes to everything, which puts them in a very stressful
state. And in some ways theyfeel very isolated because they're the go to
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for everyone else. So sometimes they'llcome in and that's what their benefit of
being with the horses is. They'llwalk and I said, go, you
know, spend some time, getto know this particular partner that you've chosen,
because they choose the horse there workingwith. And I have had women
to come in and just hang onthe horse, and the horse will literally
come over and support them and tohold up their weight, and they literally
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do that to take a breath.They don't know why they're doing it.
They said, I just want tostand here. I said, fine,
And they can stand there for twentyminutes if they want. It's that's what
they need at that time, andit's not woo woo what is happening is
they're actually literally taking deeper breaths,probably than they have been for a very
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long time. They're allowing that energyto flow in and out of them,
so that horse's heart they literally willhang without knowing it, they will hang
on the neck of the horse,right up against their hearts if they subconsciously
know. Like, I'm a Godgirl, So I think that it's like
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God puts that in place for themso that they can feel what it's like
to be supported. And I havehad women in tears say to me,
I felt supported, and I said, well, that's what God just did
for you. That's why you're here. Now, let's talk about how you
can move from that. You can'tchange somebody's perception or somebody's thought processes if
they are on full in defense ofall the time. Hence the isolation is
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because they're in a power position allthe time and you can't get it's hard
for them to let down, tobreathe, to be able to find that
space to think of how they canbetter enhance their life because everybody's always looking
at them as a leader. Sothat little piece of relaxation and opening up
and breathing is something that is whatsomebody might think, well, that's will
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No, it's actually really necessary forsome of these women. It's necessary.
Some of the other things that wediscovered is the way they react, of
course to energy, and we're talkingabout that that energy we react off of
as well. There's a pressure andrelease that we have and this is one
of the modalities that we talk about, pressure and release. If you have
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horses, as Julian no, youdo. It's one of the ways that
we train horses because it's how theymove naturally in the herd. If they
want to move a horse out oftheir way, they literally bring their energy.
We talked about their energy field,their electrodegnity feel They literally bring this
energy that says get off that grass, I want it, and the other
horse will move. Usually we're prettypeaceful about the whole thing. We do
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the same thing. We react offof energy and force all the time,
and to relieve that we will reactin certain ways, asking for what we
want, receiving what we need.This is all the same idea, this
natural principle of pressure and release.And if you're thinking I don't get it,
let me give you a really goodexample. You go to networking events,
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somebody puts their hand out to you, that's pressure. You relieve the
pressure by taking their hand. Ifyou didn't take somebody's hand, is there
awkward pressure in the room. Yes, that's a social pressure, that's an
awkwardness that's creating discomfort. So youalleviate that by putting your hand in theirs
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and shaking their hands. That's asimple example of pressure in release in human
life. So those are the thingsthat we work with. When you're working
with the horses, you can seeif you're too aggressive and asking for something,
they'll react and they'll they'll leave,you won't be successful, and you
go, Okay, I need toturn this down. I've had people that
are very assertive women coming and notrealize and I was one of them.
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This was one of my lessons,not realize that I can ask for things
in a different way. I don'thave in essence yell or shout, And
even with the horse, I wasn'tyelling or shouting, but in body language,
I was, Yeah, so wecan tone it down, we can
change the way, we can changethe way we lead. I had an
executive here from one of the largestcorporations in Austin, and she has a
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global group that she manages. Andshe came in and she chose one of
my most powerful horses. And sheis a great leader. I mean she
just walks in the room and shecommands respect. And she chose one of
my biggest, strongest horses. Andso I want to make her run.
I'm like, okay, so itdoesn't take much. And she gets this
horse as a barrel horse, soshe loves to run. So she's got
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this horse running and the dust isflying and the women that aren't horse people
are like freaking out. She's totallysafe in there, and I know this.
And she's running after the horse andshe stopped and she's out of breath,
and she says, I am soexhausted. I thought I was in
shape. I don't know why I'mso exhausted. And the horse is still
running, by the way, andI yelled over the horse to her,
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what did you want to do?And she said I wanted her to run.
Before she finished the words, sherealized she had what she was asking
for and she was running after itanyway, literally physically, she said.
I she said, this is whyI'm so tired at work. I do
this at work. I run afterpeople after I give them their assignments,
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when they're doing the work, Ineed to just let them go and I
can stand back. I said,well, you know, call her to
you know, and just like thatshe reconnected with a horse. The horse
stopped and came to her and Isaid, what did you What is your
lesson? And she said that I'mworking way too hard. I can leave
them and then once they they getit. It's like when you're training your
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child with two wheel bike. Atsome point you take the training wheels off.
You can push them, make surethat they're safe, but you're not
going to continually run after them downthe street. They have to be able
to complete that on their own.And that's one of the things that as
a leader you have to learn todo. So it's amazing the metaphorical things
it will show up up. Andthe way we treat the relationship with a
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partner in the round pen, whichis where we work with the horses,
is since so many ways the waywe treat people in life, whether it's
business or personal. I've had womencome in and try to deal with their
love relationships, and I've had I'vehad horses that are the sweetest. I've
had one horse who is the sweetesthorse in the world. And he started
nipping at this woman and like nippingher clothing, tugging on things, getting
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in her space, and every timethat he would do something offensive like this,
which was totally out of his character. By the way, this is
a horse I own. And I'mlooking at my husband like, can you
believe this? He's doing this?And he kept pushing her and getting in
her space and being very obnoxious,and she was petting him the whole time.
And you know, he's really inyours. It seems he's really taking
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some advantage of your space. Andshe said, yes, he is.
I probably shouldn't let him do that, and she put him yep, and
her best yes, and her bestfriend. Now, ladies, if any
of this as you, you cantake a lesson from this. Her best
friend with her and her best friend. I'm focused on the person in the
arena. I'm not looking at thecrowd. My focus is on whoever is
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working with course, But i cansee in my peripheral this woman is jumping
up and down. I'm like,her friend's so excited. And it turns
out later when we did the wrapup that her friend and a woman admitted
it. The woman was single andshe was repeatedly dating men that walked all
over her and powerful in her worklife, but was way too submissive,
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didn't put her boundaries in place forher personal life, and she was getting
into trouble and sometimes the men wouldget abusive. Yeah, and this was
a clear example. So she shewas like, I can't wait to come
back, and I want to workon my boundaries and I want to stand
up for myself. And that willtranslate into how she handles the next situation
when somebody starts to get into herspace and push past her boundaries, she'll
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be able to stand up for thatand say no, that this is not
cool. So really really fun stuff, you know. And it's hard for
women that are leaders to know wherethe boundaries should be. Sometimes it's hard
for us to ask for things thatwe want, and it's hard for us
believe it or not to receive thingsbecause women that are success focused are so
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if we're single and I did this, I did this, and I was
proud of it. I'd sit down, I'd go on a date with somebody,
the check would come, I go, oh, I got my hat
or I got. Now, ifyou want to be the caretaker for your
guy and your partner, I stilldo that with my husband. Maybe I
need to come down to work withyour horses. Well, here's the thing.
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It's your choice. And if theway I look at it is this,
if you want to be the provider, go ahead and pick up that
check when you first meet the guy. You're going to set the president if
that's what you do. If youwant to be taken care of, and
that actually should If you're feminine andyou want to you want to fill adored,
you have to choose between being adoredand respect it. This is a
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whole nother topic, but if youwant to fill a doored, it's so
hey to let him pay for that, let him buy you a drink,
let him buy that dinner, andbe grateful and say thank you so much.
Then actually, we'll make a masculineperson, male or female, but
somebody that is of that masculine tendency. It will make them feel good to
be able to do that for you. And we sometimes don't receive that.
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We don't receive. We like no, I can prove that you don't need
to prove in certain circumstances you canjust accept and feel good. And there
are times that I see working withwomen that we have a really difficult time
doing that. We have a difficulttime receiving our self care time. If
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somebody says, hey, let's goget a manicure, we go. I
don't have time. Hey, wellwe go to lunch. You know,
I don't have time receive that.That is a friendship, it is a
gift. It is time, qualitytime with another human. We need to
be able to receive that that's goodfor us. And there's times that we
get so wrapped up and so driventhat we don't do that. I think
this is definitely I feel it isdefinitely a problem that exists more in the
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female world than it does in themale world, especially for entrepreneurs and corporate
leaders. That that's both X chromosomes, you know, because you mentioned actually
owning owning your female traits as opposedto trying to become adapt to the male
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world, and in doing it,when you do this, it messes with
your brain because your brain's going,wait a minute, this isn't the way
I work. My brain's not wired. I feel like it's short circuits.
You know. Is there anything thatactually short circuits in there. That's what
I feel like, Yeah, yeah, you know, your brain's going,
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wait a minute, this doesn't work, and it's so much harder literally because
you know me, I talk alot about that energy spend. It's your
advantage that you have in your brain. And when you're as a woman,
when you're trying to act like aman emotionally speaking, it's taking a lot
of extra energy. It's literally burningmore glucose second per second because that's we
have to do so much extra inour brain to achieve that. And I
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love that when you're working with womenand these horses, they're able to You
were giving the story of the womanwho leaned against the horse. That's so
beautiful because they're able to go,Okay, wait, I don't have to
be the tough one here. Idon't have to be the strong tower.
I can lean on somebody else.And oftentimes we as women, we pick
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up that those rains you know,pardon the punt, know, we pick
that up and we just we doit because we're doers, you know,
And yes, and that damages ourbrain because then we get into that host
psychonary immunology thing about our deep emotionsand our deep self talk and how that
affects our our help. So Ijust I am loving, loving all of
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this. So you kind of touchedon we go ahead, go ahead,
No, I'm just going to saythere's one thing that I want to get
you in a conversation about. It'sone of the modalities we talk about,
and it's a female strength. Meanthave it too. I mean, the
Army is actually trying to harness away to train this intuition. Yeah,
because when we get into that masculinespace, and as you were saying,
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we try to downplay those, youknow, the feminine traits, we lose
touch with that. And it's oneof our strongest things that we can easily
access, that intuition, that thatsixth sense, that that ability to plug
in and know is this the rightdecision for me? Is this the right
person to bring into my environment?We get that gut feeling and knowing.
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One of the things that we talkabout too, is that that mind body
that the mind is, the brainis not just in your noggin. It's
actually reacting to different neurons that areall through your system. And so if
you literally disconnect you know, orI should say, figure it you know,
literally, but if you figuratively orvirtually try to disconnect your thoughts from
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what you're feeling in your gut,it's it's gonna make you a it's probably
gonna make you sick, and you'regonna be very unhappy and very very stressed.
So one of the first things thatwe do people come and choose the
horse they're working with, and that'san intuition exercise. Now, I wonder
do you do you agree that whenwe get into that masculine headspace that we
can lose that intuition absolutely, onehundred percent. So just for the listeners
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really quick when we're talking about intuition, because that's another thing that for the
longest time it was like, ohwait a minute, that's wu wu.
That's magical that they have literally neurosciencecan scan it have identified in the brain
itself what they call the home ofintuition. So this is the portion of
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your brain that just fires incredibly whenyou are doing intuitive thinking and science.
And typically here's one of the bigdifferences between the male brain and the female
brain. The male brain is veryor the female brain is very global.
They have a larger corpus colosum thison average, on average, and this
allows them to activate and jump fromside to side, hemisphere to hemisphere,
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front to back with extreme speed anda lot of ease. I kind of
compare it to the you know,a major Los Angeles interchange freeway where you've
got on ramps and off remps andthis freeway and that freeway and this,
you know, going all over theplace. Men have more. Men have
a two lane country road right,and it's just this corpus colosum. It's
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just this quiet, little easy place, so they don't spend as much energy
jumping all over the brain. Technically, what you're doing when you are using
and this happens subconsciously. This happenswithout you processing its step. It just
happens with intuition your brain in thatinstant when you walk into that room,
or when you when you're thinking aboutsomething and you're going, ooh, this
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doesn't feel right or whatever the situationis. What your brain has done in
nanoseconds is pulled together little tiny,teeny bits of information from every quadrant of
your brain with extreme speed and thatand then that front right portion of the
brain just pulls all that information togetherand goes This is the direction we need
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to go. So it is incrediblyscientific, and yes, you are absolutely
right. Because of this major LosAngeles you know, metropolitan freeway system that
women have in their brain, theyaccess it with a greater amount of ease.
Men can do it too, likeyou said, men can do it
too. It's just in terms ofthis energy expenditure in the brain, women
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can do it with a greater amountof ease. And you're right, that's
something that we're often told you no, do it, factually, don't go
here, you know, And yetthat's that's a huge benefit. In corporate
settings, that's a huge benefit.If you are in business as an entrepreneur,
that's a huge benefit. You're whyare you child's sick? Yes,
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exactly. But what they've repeatedly,I mean for decades they've asked the question
of fortune five hundred leaders and CEOsand c suites, how do you make
your most important decisions? And theyhave said, I will look at the
facts and the figures essentially, andthen my final thing is I go with
my gut, I go with myheart, I go with and that's what
they say. So there really issome at that point if you want to
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say shame me the facts and figuresyou can literally find them for the people
that really trust that. And nowwe have the armed forces thinking, okay,
we have studied and particularly using soldiersin Afghanistans where it's very violent and
there are surprise attacks, and allof this they have saved. There has
been a team member or two thathas had a gut feeling and reacted to
it, and in essence, whathe's doing is taking all of those teeny
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tiny business informations and instantly reacting andsaving a lot of times saving that team
from complete demise because they reacted beforeanything that even happened and they said,
well, it was in my gut. So so many soldiers have said that
that's what saves them or saved savedtheir team, or what gave them a
heads up was actually a gut feeling. That the army is now trying to
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figure out how they can harness thisinformation and train it. Now, just
bring in more women, but whatever, more women as leaders. Yes,
yeah, exactly that, but itis it's really interesting to see women that
some of them will come and instantlygo yes, I know, and I
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feel it here in my body becausea lot of times it will show up
maybe as a word to them asa message, but a lot of times
it shows up as a feeling intheir body anywhere from the gut, their
heart, their chests, their neck, They'll get shivers. There's ways that
they get this information. And thenwe have some women that have actually shut
it down and I do a sixweek course where we kind of tap into
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that and it's interesting. But withina couple of weeks they'll start to realize,
oh, you know what I did, used to have that and it
is working for me. And theycan literally go back in and reaccess it.
Which is cool that if you thinkyou've lost it, you don't.
It's not a permanent loss. Youcan get back to it and you can
learn to trust it. It's oneof the one of the big advantages that
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we have as women. It isso true. I hate to do this
because I could continue on for anotherhour with you easily easily, but I
want We've got like barely five minutes. I want you to tell us.
I want everyone to connect to it. They needless to say. You can
you now know why I'm so excitedand why I was so excited at the
(22:40):
beginning of the show. You havethis amazing woman on and her not only
her knowledge base, but what thispersonal experience combined with what she's doing with
her you know, her programs.So first you have a special offer and
there is a link. All thelinks should be hot. I will check
them after the show. Should beready to go on the show show page,
(23:00):
but I will check just to makesure you have a sneak peak of
two chapters of your multimedia book thatreally click like thirty seconds. Yeah,
it's going to be forgiveness, y'all, because this is a real sneak peak,
Like we are putting this thing together, so I wanted to give you
something that nobody else has. Sowe have a couple of chapters, so
it'll be a link there click onthat. And more than that, I
(23:22):
also want you to be part ofthe community to see what's going on.
So if you can go to Charismaticcowgirldot com, you'll see there's a little
thing where you can say, sendme information about events. You can actually
find out when I'll be doing liveevents. We have the six week program
that we're going to be launching,which you'll enable you no matter where you
are, to tap into the horses. And I'm looking to get out to
California to Julie. So we'll haveto plan something together when I'm out there
(23:45):
and maybe do a little you know, maybe some video or do something a
little event or something with the horses. Wouldn't that be fun? Oh?
That would be amazing. That wouldbe amazing. So we're going to do
this and you're going to be seeinglots of this, so definitely, and
that that link is on a showpage, it should be clickable. Like
I said, I'll make sure youalso have you had mentioned a Wine and
Equine event real quick, tell usagain, kind of run us through what
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that is again. Yeah, ifyou go to charismaticcowgirl dot com, that's
the events. It says, getme on the event lift. That'll give
you it heads up notice of thenext one's coming. We can do private
groups in the same way, butwe do a public introduction, fun evening
with the horses called Wine and Equinebecause ladies like wine. So if you
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don't drink wine, you can youcan, you know, drink sparkling water.
It's totally fine. It's not reallyabout that, but it's about just
that relaxation and that state of mindthat we get into when we're sitting with
wine and cheese and talking about theexperience afterwards. So it's three hours with
the horses. You literally come tomy farm. So you can find out
more about that if you go tocharismticcowgirl dot com. And if you're in
the era you want to fly in. This Saturday, we're having one.
(24:51):
We have folks going there from Californiaand Houston, and so it's fun.
It's a fun it's a fun time. I'm gonna have to get on that
list just to keep it because Iwant to do that. Sandra, thank
you so very much for being onthe program today. Obviously the listeners could
tell we could go on talking brainsand animals and horses, and I would
love to be able to have youon again and talk about some of you
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When we had talked offline, youknow, you had talked about other animal
studies that you have that you findvery interesting. So hopefully we can have
you back on the show as arepeat guest. And thank you so so
so very much for being on theprogram today. Thank you, Thank you
everybody. Have an awesome day.Amazing. You can all see why I
was just so excited about having heron the program. She is just amazing.
(25:40):
All right, well, I gotto wrap this up. I am
so sad that it feels like itwas fifteen minutes for me. So thank
you very much for tuning into theBrain Lady Speaks radio shows. Oh,
thank you everybody for joining us forthis on care presentation of my therapist is
paid. And hey, the surprisingway horses can help us with Sandra d
Robinson. What a great show.So I would like to thank everybody for
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joining us today. Remind everybody tofollow Julie on all of your social channels
Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn. She is Brain Lady Julie, and
remember to like the show, giveus a thumbs up, give us a
rating, share the show with yourfriends. Since everyone, absolutely everyone who
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has a brain can benefit from thisincredible information. So I will wrap it
up, and, like Julie likesto end all of her shows, let's
take a nice deep breath, goout there and enjoy every moment. See
(26:52):
you next week. S
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