December 6, 2023 • 45 mins
One more time for the people in the back...SUGAR IS NOT BAD FOR YOU! There IS such thing as good sugar, it's not only good, but also a necessity for a healthy brain and body. Our conversation with Dr. John Lewis is FULL of yummy information and exciting discoveries in the field of natural health.
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Welcome to brain Lady Speaks with JulieAnderson. Julie brain Lady Anderson is considered
to be one of the nation's topexperts on the brain personality connection. She
has been inspiring her audiences to fireup their brains and ignite positive changes in
their relationships, and now she ishere to bring that knowledge to you.
The information she shares will help thosewho hear it to accelerate their success in
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life and business through the discovery oftheir natural gifts and maximizing their brain power.
When you learn to tap into thepotential of your natural gifts and the
power of the brain mind connection,there is no limit to what you can
accomplish. Today and every Wednesday onbrain Lady Speaks, you'll explore the latest
findings to see how they have practicalapplication in your life. And now get
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ready to join Julie Anderson on thebrain Lady Speaks radio show. Take it
Away, Julie, Welcome everyone sothe brain Lady Speaks Podcast. I am
so excited to be here once againwith you, Julie brain Lady Anderson and
share with you another really interesting interview. I just love this. I love
all things brain science. But whata lot of people don't always know about
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me as I started over thirty yearsago studying the field of natural health,
and that's kind of how I discoverednatural things for the brain, and then
I got sidetracked into all the wonderfulworld of the brain. But my heart
and my basis has always started inthat field of natural health, and so
I love when the two come togetherbeautifully and combine. And that is what
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we're going to be talking about todayis natural natural things that help the brain.
And we are here with doctor JohnLewis. Doctor Lewis, thank you
so much for being on the BrainLady Speak Show. Thank you for having
me. It's my pleasure. I'mlooking forward to our conversation today. I
love it. I love it,and we have a mouthful of a topic.
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I might say about it, abrain full. Before we get started,
let me just read a little bitabout your professional bio. It's really
long, and we'll put the wholebio in the show notes, but for
right now, I'm just going togive you a nice introduction on let the
people listening or watching this video knowa little bit about your background. So
John E. Lewis, PhD isthe founder and president of Doctor Lewis Nutrition
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and will give you information on howto contact that later and past full time
and current voluntary Associate professor in theDepartment of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the
University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. He is a Diplomat, Diplomat faculty
member and advisor of the Medical WellnessAssociation. He has been the principal investor
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investigator of over thirty different studies inhis research career. During that time,
he either directly raised or indirectly supportedraising over twenty three million dollars in grants,
gifts, and contracts for research studiesand clinical trials, and educational programs
for medical students. Here's where itgets really cool. Much of his resource
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has been focused on evaluating the effectsof nutrition, dietary supplementation, exercise,
and medical devices on various aspects ofhuman health and disease. He and his
colleagues have been continually searching for waysto help people achieve and maintain health through
natural treatments that align with our physiology. Doctor Lewis also embodies the model of
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health himself and wellness by eating awhole food, plant based diet for over
twenty six years, so an earlyadopter for that, taking certain key supplements
and through a rigorous daily exercise trainingprogram. John has a passion for educating
others about the value of nutrition,exercise, and health, and will continue
to study the application of clinical nutritionfor the benefit of mankind. Thank you
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so much, doctor Lewis for beingon the show. Thank you for that.
We're welcome. I appreciate it.I look forward to our conversation,
forward to sharing mutual interests and hopefullyeducating your listeners about some things that I've
done in my career so far.I love it. I love it.
And the topic is the importance ofpolysachrides pscharides psackrides for brain health, immune
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function, and quality of life.And that's a big long word, but
you're going to explain to us whatthat is because it's really in food,
although there is some artificial ways thatyou can get it as well. So
tell us a little bit. Let'sjust start with that, so we're well,
actually, let's back up before that. What got you interested in this?
Like, you've had this beautiful careerwhere you've done a ton of things
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and I didn't even list at all, But what was what started your interest
in really kind of that natural healthor or how to benefit help our body
be its best through exercise and dietand natural nutrition. What got you started
and interested in that great question?I think I would take it all the
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way back, excuse me, whenI was a little kid and my grandfather
was pitching baseball to me out inthe backyard, and it really set me
on a path of being physically activeplaying sports. And then in university,
in undergrad I got into drug freecompetitive bodybuilding, and so I was always
fascinated with movement and playing sports andbeing competitive on that level. And then,
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as we all do, we youknow, we change, we evolved,
we learned new interests. When Iwas really focused on exercise, training
and movement in terms of how thataffects the body, and in my case
specifically looking in how to make mymuscles grow and you know, again be
a competitive bodybuilder, I began thinkingabout what that would mean for the rest
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of my life, and I decidedI couldn't really see myself making a living
as a bodybuilder. And I really, you know, as I mentioned,
I wasn't willing to go down theroad of taking drugs to take it to
that next level of competition. Somy competitive interests in terms of health and
what I really started to shift towardmore of a health orientation. And so
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I realized pretty early, fortunately prettyearly in my life, when in my
mid twenties, that health was waymore important than you know, competing in
some I don't know, narcissistic thinglike bodybuilding. And with all due respect
to you know, all the peopleout there who continue participating bodybuilding, it's
a fine thing. I don't reallyknock it. It actually did a lot
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for me in terms of the wayI looked at my body and you know,
again creating sort of the sense ofreally looking at how the body works
in response to exercise and nutrition.But again I realized that for most people
it's just not practical or are reallydoable to make a living that way.
And so as I thought about itand I reflected, I just thought,
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well, you know, people aremuch more There are so many more people
that have health issues. And thatreally was, you know, a defining
shift for me. But I've justalways had an interest in something like you
you know, you're talking about yourhistory and natural health. I mean,
I I never could accept just theconventional medical way of doing things in the
United States, and I continued learningabout nutrition way beyond what I had learned
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in graduate school as a as ayou know, in my program in physiology,
and with all due respect to myprofessors, it wasn't their thing,
you know, natural health and wellnesswasn't really their thing. So I actually
learned a lot more of this stuffreally through my own interests and then meeting
other people along my life's journey thatintroduced me to certain key things Polly Sacharides,
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for example. Hopefully we'll talk aboutthat a little bit later, but
it's really been an interesting evolution tothe point where, you know, for
example, growing up in the South, I for taste. I had no
mentor or no family member who atefor health. My dad thought a meal
was not a meal without a coupleof things, a piece of some type
of beef and a glass of milk, and a piece of bread. And
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if he didn't have if dad didn'thave all three of those things, white
bread, that's right, exactly,some kind of white bread or corn bread,
you know, something like that.If Dad didn't have those three components
to his meals, he was nota happy camper. So you know that
was the kind of culture that Igrew up in. And you know,
my I mean, I still atea lot of fruits and vegetables. It
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wasn't like I only ate those foods. But again, I didn't eat for
health, you know, I wasreally just eating for taste like all of
my families. So for me,like you know, eating a plant based
diet for the last twenty six years, and thank you for calling me an
early adopter. This definitely was notsomething that you know, I was looking
for in celebrities or you know,entertainers or whatever. I had nothing to
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do with that. This was reallyfor me, my own exploration into my
own health and well being and lookingat all the literature about nutrition and how
a plant based died. And youknow, and I mean again, I
know it's arguable we've got all thesepeople out there preaching keto and carnivore and
all this meat based approach, whichI'm not into arguments. I really have
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no time for drama or arguing.It's not my thing. But in my
opinion and my own review of theliterature, I think it's a very strong
argument to make about eating a predominantlywhole food plant based diet, even if
you don't go all the way,but just relying on most of your food
that way. That's my again,my opinion of my review of the research,
and even some of the own someof my own research that we published
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looking at those those differences. SoI think, as you said in the
closing comment of your introduction to me, my mission, besides my dietary supplement
company and the work we're doing there, my mission is still as much as
one man can to try to helppeople be healthy. And that's not just
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about the brain. It's really youknow, from head to toe. It's
our health. Our health is ourwealth. And if you're not taking care
of your health, I don't carehow much money you have, how you
know, how many cars you have, what kind of clothes you wear,
your jewelry, your home, anythingelse tangible. If you're not taking care
of this thing when all those otherthings matter, yeah, yeah, you
can't enjoy them if you're sick.And it is interesting to me. One
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of the things that interested me innatural health three decades plus ago is the
fact that the body is so beautifullymade that if you give it the right
tools, the right input, you'llget the right output. And you know,
you'll get that, you'll have theenergy, you'll have you'll have better
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health. And so I was veryfascinated when it went through. It's through
that and now incorporating the neuroscience init too, because it's the body,
the body and brain. It's allone, one system, and if one
system is off, then the othersystem suffer because you can't it's it's not
you can't just take one part outand keep keep the liver healthy and then
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the rest of the body can goto you know you. It doesn't work
that way. Everything has to beeverything has to be pulled together. So
let's talk about that that big longword, the polysacharoides psycharides. What is
that and where is it found innature? And then how is it also
supplemented? So I love the opportunityto talk about polysachrides, and that's really
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where I've focused so much of myresearch for almost the last twenty years,
because it is an opportunity to talkto you know, anyone. Typically most
people don't know what polypsycharides are.Most people are really unfamiliar with the term.
But if I may, I'll justsort of jump around this a little
bit as I answer the question.One of the things that's as you well
know, fascinating about where we aretoday as a society is for the last
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what is it? I don't know. Ten twenty thirty, maybe even forty
years, we've been led to believe, mostly through the media, that sugar
is bad for us, right,Like you hear the word sugar and you
immediately think, oh my gosh,that's bad. You know, bad,
bad, bad. But there aretwo very interesting characteristics at least, But
I think the two most important characteristiccharacteristic about sugars are one their source and
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to their biochemical structure. So polysacchrideis just simply a complex sugar. If
you take the base of the wordsachride, you have really generically speaking,
three different types of sugars. Youhave monosaccharides, the most simple molecular sugars,
then you have disachrides that are alittle bit more complex, and then
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you have poly or oligosacrides, themost complex types of sugars. Now,
the work that my colleagues and Ihave done have focused primarily on polysacrides from
two particular sources. One is zalveraand one is rice brand. And I
would argue that those two particular plantsare two of the most amazing plants that
Mother Nature, God, the Universe, the source, whatever you want to
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refer to it, based on yourbelief, has bestowed upon human beings to
utilize for their health and well being. We have shown time and time and
again, and all these clinical trialsthat we ran, and all the papers
we publish subsequent to those studies showingthe benefits of these polysacchrides. So I
right there with anyone who says hyructosecorn syrup is not good for us.
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Of course, right right, that'sprocessed. We're not taking process exactly.
It's a simple sugar. It's beenmodified from a to z. It spikes
your insulin, it spikes your glucose, It does all these bad things for
us. So absolutely, that's thetype of sugar that you don't want to
consume. Ever, if not,you know, very infrequently. Of course,
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sucrose is a bit more complex.It's a disachriide. And then again
you have these polysachriides from alvera.It's commonly referred to as manos a smanna
acetylated polymannose. There are several differentsynonyms are basically the same complex sugar,
and then the rice brant again isa different class but still a very complex
sugar. So anytime I hear someonesay, oh, sugar is bad for
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you, it just really it reallygrinds me because they're making that statement out
of ignorance. Yeah, and reallythey're just throwing the baby out with the
bathwater. It's just, you know, a blanket statement that comes from ignorance
and not knowing that you have tobe very careful. I mean me as
a scientist, as a writer,I'm somebody who's very particular and careful about
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the language. So I really havea hard time when I hear, you
know, these ongoing messages in themedia talking about sugar as being bad for
humans. It's absolutely a ridiculous statement. And I'm trying that's one of the
things in my lane, in myzone and my expertise, if you will,
of where I'm trying to help people, you know, not just fall
for that, not just accept somebodyelse, some other you know, talking
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head or public health whatever, youknow, making these statements that don't have
any real meaning because it's too looseand it's too generic. So Ali Vera
and Rice brand In my opinion,are providing again these nutrients that and oh,
by the way, I don't careif you're vegan or carnivore, or
keto or zone or paleo or youknow, weight watchers Jenny kra I don't
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care what your dietary preference is.You're not getting these things from your diet.
So it is very important to getthese things from your dietary supplements.
Hopefully in my case, you'd youknow, you'd look to me for for
some of us stuff. But it'sit's very important to understand that, you
know, and I used to bedifferent about this. I used to think
that you would be okay, ifnot optimal optimally healthy with just mostly your
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food. But I've really come aroundfull circle in you know, running again,
running these clinical trials for nearly thelast two decades, and everything that
I've looked at in terms of,you know, these polysacrides and the difficulty
in trying to get them in somethingnot as a dietary supplement. Anybody who
makes the statement that, oh,you don't need supplements again, I think
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that's a very bad statement that comesfrom ignorance and really isn't fully grasping what
things like these polysaccharides can do forhealth. So it's been a fascinating your
I mean, depending on how muchtime we have, we can you know,
go into this a little bit.But again it's these probably sacrifice.
I would put them up against whateverit is for cuman, vitamin D,
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vitamin C, any other nutritional orphytonutritional compound or molecule. I would really
put these up. Arguably is justabout as effective as anything else that I'm
aware of it. It's been studiedas much as they have. Yeah,
So it's is it one of thosethings then that you mentioned Alivera and Rice
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brand, that you don't want tojust eat Alivera and Rice brand and that's
not necessarily going to get you thethe as the results that you want as
the density or the the powerful thepower of it once it's in a supplement.
Well, that's a great question,and thank you for following that with
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that question, because you're exactly right. So, for example, in the
case of Alivera, the inner leafgel is not and a half ninety nine
percent water, So imagine to tryto get enough polysacchride content in eating that
gel would be impossible. You'd neverget enough gel in your system to have
any kind of a therapeutic benefit,and more or less, the same thing
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is true for rice brand. Mostof the world, seventy eighty percent of
the world prefers to eat white rice. When the rice is taken out of
the field and into some facility forprocessing, the outside brown kernel part of
it, that's the brand, itgets stripped off, and then the final
product that goes to the stores andrestaurants for the most part is white rice
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that has no brand in it,So the brand ends up either being thrown
away or fed to livestock unfortunately,but for even still for someone like me,
I don't know about you. Ilike organic brown rice. I eat
it nearly every day. But Ithink eating like say a half a cup
or even a cup if you will, how much ever you eat, would
be enough brown rice to get theconcentrated amount of the rice brand that you'd
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need again to have a therapeutic benefit, especially in the face of some really
significant health challenge. So, yes, you're exactly right, you really need
a good quality dietary supplement for thesetwo nutrients specifically, I mean some others
may be debatable in terms of whatyou can get out of food or not,
But for these two in particular,Yes, you really need a dietary
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supplement to get a therapeutic benefit.Again, especially in the face of a
health challenge. Yeah, I appreciatethat because I know that I'm a big
person for taking you know, specificsupplements. You know, don't just go
crazy with every single thing that popsup on your Instagram feed, but you
know, knowing that our diets aren'tsufficient oftentimes in the things that we need,
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they just they just aren't. Whetherit's because we're not eating one hundred
percent correct or we're not the nutrientsin the food is not as dense.
You know, there's all of thesedifferent reasons that I firmly believe that supplementation
is with specific things is very,very beneficial for the body and for the
brain. So let's talk about thatfrom a brain point of view. So
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I'd love to hear because I amfascinated with the brain. I'm fascinated with
brain function and how to utilize naturalmethods or as natural as we can to
maximize our brain power, because ourbrain is amazing, but we're barely tapping
into it. And oftentimes because ofthe air, the water, the lack
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of exercise or poor diet or whatever. Our brains just aren't working. So
what have you to their peak?What have you discovered in your research the
connection between brain health or optimum brainfunction and polysaccharides. Great question, and
I totally agree with you. It'samazing how little the average person is really
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functioning in terms of what he orshe is putting in his or her mouth,
and then how that translates into reallyphysical and emotional mental functioning. But
I would say, Julie, atthis point, the highlight of my academic
career, which I'm no longer fulltime in academics as of the last six
and a half years, was theclinical trial that we conducted in people with
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moderate to severe Alzheimer's disease, which, as you well know, is just
such a terrible, tragic disease.It's now the sixth leading killer of Americans.
Gosh, we can't even come toa scientific consistency consensus on what causes
the disease, let alone from aconventional perspective knowing how to help these people,
and you know, what a horriblefate for anyone to have. But
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we looked at our polysacchride base,our alo polymennose based formula, and we
put people with this disease and thesewere moderate to severe severity people. So
these were not mild cognitive impairment ornewly diagnosed. They had to be diagnosed
for at least one year, andthey were at the sickest state, and
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we didn't care about, you know, their medication or their diet, or
their activity or anything else. Weliterally just introduced this formula into their diet.
Based on what my colleague, doctorRegi McDaniel, who had really gotten
me into this whole polysach Ride areaabout almost twenty years ago, had been
doing some work with people with Parkinson'sand MS and dementia and had some really
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exciting results, but hadn't at thatpoint conducted any type of political trial,
and he wasn't in an academic settingat that point anyway. But he had
given a lecture and his family,this husband and wife, heard him give
this lecture and they ended up agreeingto give doctor McDaniel some funding if he
would agree to do a study inAlzheimer's. So that was how this all
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came about anyway. It wasn't evenbecause you know, the Alzheimer's Association or
NIH or somebody like that gave usmoney. It was actually through the generosity
of this one family. But whatwe ended up discovering was nothing short of
I mean, I would just sayagain it has been to this point the
pinnacle of my research career. Soafter twelve months and we looked at cognitive
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function according to the ad AS COGand a few other things. But as
I'm sure you know, the aightAS COG is widely considered to be the
gold standard of assessing cognition, especiallyamong dementia studies. It's been published in
I don't know, probably several thousandarticles at this point at least. But
we did. We did the neurocognitivetesting at baseline three, six, nine
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and twelve months, and then wedrew blood at baseline in twelve months.
Unfortunately, our budget was limited,we were not able to draw blood at
the three, six and nine months, But anyway, we showed clinically and
statistically significant improvement in cognitive function atnine and twelve months. That's and maybe
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you know the literature better than Ido, but that is absolutely, to
my knowledge, unheard of. Youcan compare that to the five FDA approved
drugs for dementia, any other typeof diet supplement, a dietary intervention,
an exercise intervention, hyperbaric oxygen,sound therapy, music therapy, acupuncture.
I don't care what other type ofintervention or treatment you want to compare it
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to. And I'm not trying tosound like an ego, you know,
an egotistical jerk or a very arroganthere. I'm just telling you that you
know from what we ran, youknow the study we ran and the results
we published. We now have actuallyfour papers. The fourth one has just
been accepted for publication in the Journalof Alzheimer's Disease just a few weeks ago.
That will be out very soon.That's another topic I can share with
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you if you like. But those, I mean, those changes in cognition
were just beyond anything we expected.I had literally caregivers and staff members calling
me, of course, the caregivers, not so much the staff, but
the caregivers calling me in tears aswe were running the study of joy,
telling me that their loved one wasnow doing things that in some cases he
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or she had not done in years. I mean talking about you know,
people, events, anniversaries, birthdays, remembering children's names, again, I
mean just incredible responses that we wereoptimistic going in, but quite frankly,
we didn't have any idea. Youknow, running a study, you never
really know. You feel good aboutthings, you know as you get start,
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you know, you never really knowtill they are what they are and
you actually run the statistics. Butbased on those kinds of anecdotal responses as
the study was being conducted, Ifelt confident that eventually the data would show
really nice things, and they did, and then supporting the clinical improvements,
what we showed on the sailor levelwas that we were able to lower inflammation
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according to VEJEF and TNF alpha,which are two CIDO kinds and growth factors
that are normally looked at and studiesin heart disease and cancer. Our paper
was probably the first one that publishedthat in Alzheimer's disease. We showed an
improvement in overall game function according tothe CD four to CD eight ratio.
The CD fours are our helper sales, the cdights are our cytotoxic cells.
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So we want that ratio to beas high as possible as we age,
especially you know, for all ofus, not just for people with Alzheimer's
and then finally we showed just undera three hundred percent increase in adult stem
cells according to CD fourteen cells.Now, yeah, now we didn't have
money in the budget to do anytype of imaging, and this was close
to fifteen years ago, so Idon't know, the imaging technology maybe back
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then wasn't really as sophisticated as itis today. Nonetheless, you know,
without having that type of data,you have to be the biggest skeptic in
the world to look at our data, look at our study and say,
okay, you have this clinical improvementon the one side, you have all
this stuff going on on the otherthat support it. The only thing that
made sense to us, and it'sa bit theoretical, but we we really
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emphasized in the discussion section of thatfirst paper that with the improvement in cognitive
function and lowering inflammation, improving overallimmune function, and then improving really dramatically
that stem cell production process, thebodies inherent intelligence was able to send those
stem cells out to the brain andeitherheat it, you know, create new
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neurons, create new synapses, whateverwas occurring under the idea of neuroplasticity and
or you know, improving the damagedareas or both or again it's a bit
theoretical and a bit speculative on thatside, but that's the only thing that
makes sense to us in terms ofhow else do you explain the clinical improvement.
There's the results of their explanation.Yeah, it would be really interesting
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to be able to repeat a studywhere you could do it before a you
know, pre impost brain scan tobe able to see Yeah, that would
be and that I'm sorry interrupted,I was just going to say to follow
up on that. So prior tome leading academics full time back in seventeen,
so that's again six and a halfyears ago from the time we published
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that first paper in thirteen up untilmy resignation, I tried a couple of
times with the Alzheimer's Association, acouple of times with NIH. I was
so excited, Julie. I wentfrom being you know, on top of
the mountain, thinking that I wasreally onto something, that this discovery was
going to you know, really takeme a lot of places academically in my
research career to them getting this muchin response from NIH and Alzheimer's Association.
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So for me, I went againfrom the top of the mountain to you
know, somewhere down in the valley. And I just I said, you
know what, I'm a black sheep, I'm a guy. I'm a physiologist
doing all this nutrition research. I'mnot doing pharmacology. I'm not doing genetics.
And all these big you know,these big bureaucrats, they talk a
big game. They may you know, give a little bit of airtime to
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nutrition, but behind the scenes,they don't care. This is nutrition is
not what they care about. Theycan't make any money on it. They
can't do a licensing deal with bigPharma and you know, end up making
millions or hundreds, hundreds of millionsor billions on that, so they don't
care about nutrition. And it wasthe it was literally the beginning of the
end for me of my academic career. I knew I was not going to
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spend another twenty or thirty or whatevera number of years just banged my head
against the wall in an academic setting, you know, begging other people that
don't care about my work for moneyto do that work. Because and I
don't know how much you know aboutthis process, but typically you submitted a
proposal to one of these agencies andyou're just submitting an idea. Yeah,
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you submitted an idea with data withthe backup with to back it up exactly,
and not with data, but datathat actually showed something to help arguably
the most desperate, dire chronic diseasein our society today. And you mean
to tell me that you you hadno interest in helping you know, this
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guy Lewis and his colleagues to extendthis I mean what you know again?
And I get very emotional and passionateabout this stuff because when I tell the
good side of the story and Iget chill bumps and I and I start
reflecting, you know, all thefamilies that have been affected by our work
and been helped by this. Andthen on the other side, and I
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start feeling you know, angry andceration at how that study you know,
has just been sitting there. AndI had, even after leading academics for
the first few years, I stillsort of had this idea in my mind
of you know, asking some wealthyperson who had more money than he had
common sense to you know, writeme a five million dollar check and say,
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here, John, go you knowresearch that you want to do.
I just I gave up on thatafter a while, when I couldn't make
any headway with that, I justdecided, I want to try to make
my business as successful as possible tobe able to do those studies in the
future myself. It's going to takeme a longer time to there, but
I just I decided, you know, a few years ago, I was
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just going to stop asking for moneyfor research because I just never came across
that person who was willing to helpme, you know, sort of take
this all this work that we've doneto the next level. But it's a
difficult It's a difficult industry for sure, and it is that. It is
an industry right, It has aright. It has the business attached to
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it, which can be very frustratingfor individuals who are in the natural field.
Right. Although I think there's Ithink there's promise there, it's just
it might take a whole lot longerthan what you or I might like.
I would be very I actually wouldbe very there's as you're saying these things,
I'm thinking, hmm, I'd loveto see how it would how your
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products would react with a couple withinmy family and close I have a very
close friend who's ten years younger thanme. I don't even know if she's
fifty yet. And she's been sufferingwith Parkinson's for several years. She was
very young when she was diagnosed,and she's done some major things that have
only given her a measure of relief. And I don't know, I might
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just have to, you know,get her on your supplements and see how
it. How do do my ownyou know, double blind study absally well,
we we currently have a family thatI'm working with there in England,
and the mom of the two sons, this lady has had Parkinson's. I
don't know how much you want meto go down this road. I'll just
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be as brief as I can.But she's in her mid seventies, had
Parkinson's for I believe it. Shewas diagnosed eleven twelve years ago, and
just in a few months of beingon our product, she's had just a
phenomenal response. I mean, hercolor even the first time I saw her
on zoom. You know, we'redoing the same thing like we're doing here.
We're tacking in every couple of months. And the first time I met
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Valerie, her face was very justkind of power looking, you know,
no color, no real energy.She was cognitively with it, but just
you know, very energy, didn'treally move, very static. And then
a couple of months later, she'sglowing. You know, she's got color
in her face, she's starting tomove more, and she also has rheumatoid
arthritis in addition to the Parkinson's.For years she could not do her hand
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like this. And then she senther son a picture of doing this for
the first time in years. Ohwow, And her nurse that helps her
with bathing and showering said, oh, I can see your vertebrae again.
You've finally, you know, forthe first time. And however long,
your swelling has gone down, andshe's got more energy. She could actually
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start walking by herself without assistance.I mean, all these things have happened
with her literally in just a fewmonths on taking this polysaccharid based formula we
call daily brain care. So Imean, it's an amazing opportunity to help
people when you, as you saidearlier, providing the materials that the cells
need to function properly. And Iwant to make sure just so that you
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know, FTC is not sniffing around. I never talk about treating disease with
nutrition. I know that's not kosher. You know, that's not what we're
supposed to say. This is waymore fundamental and more powerful than that.
This is again providing the raw materialsthat the cells need to function properly,
the genes, taking the information thatthey receive from the environment, and then
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guiding and directing the cells on whatto do. And that's restoring, repairing,
and healing itself. And that's waymore powerful than treating disease with pharmacology
with you know, one chemical forone metabolic pathway that gets altered to try
to manipulate a symptom of a disease. Way more powerful. So this is
not I don't want anybody that's listeningto this to be confused or to think
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that Lewis said, Oh, you'reusing daily brain care to treat disease.
No, we're not, right,Absolutely, we're not. We're supporting cellular
function. We're providing the materials thatthe cells need to function properly. Yeah,
And this might be a good placeto insert a general disclaimer for anyone
who's listening. I do this oftentimeson the Brain Lady Speak show. If
you are under the care of aphysician. I encourage you to not just
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based on this show alone, stopeverything right. Always always consult with your
physician or anyone who's under whose carryyou're under. Never ever, cold turkey
go off of any kind of medicationsthat you are currently on that needs to
be discussed with your with your doctor. However, this is just a different
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a different way of looking at things. It's an opportunity to perhaps include something
that maybe you haven't thought of before. So just keep that in mind.
Anyone who's listening or anyone who iswatching this when it airs to be sure
to keep that. Keep that inmind. And if you're really curious,
obviously reach out to doctor Lewis NowI might ask you go ahead, take
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ahead on that, just absolutely please. We don't have to our knowledge,
and I say, doctor McDaniel andI and the people we've worked with over
the years, we don't to ourknowledge, any there's no known negative interaction
or adverse effect with anybody's medications.So I always tell people this is one
hundred percent natural, it's plant based, there's nothing synthetic. To our knowledge,
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there's nothing that would cause any typeof negative interaction with your medication regimen.
So for example, as you know, things like per cumin and ginko
baloba, they're natural blood dinners.So for people on Carelin or plavix or
something, obviously those might be anissue. But for us, we don't
have anything like that in our formula, so we don't we're not aware of
any current negative adverse interaction or polypharmacyeffect that you might experience with some other
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things. Yeah, good to knownow that might bring that kind of brings
me to one of the questions thatwe we had prepared to talk about is
can someone just go okay? Andwe talked about it a little bit with
the ala vera, right, butkind of expand on that. Can someone
it obviously is something that be consumedon a daily basis. Right, it's
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food. It's good, solid foodthat the brain embody needs for optimal health,
Right, that's right. Can someoneget the same benefits from including like
just brown rice for example, justeating you know, plenty of brown rice.
Can you get those same benefits fromthat as you would from say,
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taking a high quality supplement. No. I would go back to what we
said earlier, and I believe,I truly believe that you need especially in
the face of any type of serioushealth challenge, be it you know,
something related to the brain or reallyanything else that you really need a concentrated
amount of these polysaccrice from Alvera andrice brand that you need to get in
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a supplement. Certainly, eating ricebrand with your meal in brown rice,
for example, obviously is you know, better than eating white rice. But
I don't believe that you're going toget a therapeutic benefit from eating just brown
rice alone. And certainly again nobody'sgoing to eat Alivera. I mean we,
I don't know about you. We'vegot some olvera growing in the backyard,
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but we don't go out and youknow, cut a leaf off,
and you know, su suck downthe jail or anything exactly well, you
know, rub it on a cutor something. But we're not, you
know, sucking it down, youknow, from the jail. So uh
no, I really, with allseriousness, I do believe that you need
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it in a concentrated form in adietary supplement to have a therapeutic benefit,
and even for prevention. If Imay, I'll just kind of extend the
point a little bit to say that, you know, we think of prevention
a lot, and we wonder,well, how does this work for prevention?
Well, for example, in myfamily's case, so we have a
three and a half year old andwhen she turned six months, we started
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introducing solid foods into her diet.I started giving her the polysacch rides.
Then at six months, this girlnow is three and a half years old,
healthy as a horse or sharp asattack. I mean, like a
brain like you can't believe talk abouta brain. I mean this child.
Not to brag too much about herbecause she's mine, but just an incredible
brain. My mother has been onit for close to fifteen years, this
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formula. I've been on it forover ten years. My wife's been on
it a couple of years. Shewas a little bit more stubborn to you
know, to come around on it. But I mentioned all of our family
for two reasons. One because Iwould never sell anything that I would not
take myself and also give to myown family. And two, you know,
again, prevention to me is justas important as treatment or rehabilitation.
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You want to prevent these things fromhappening in the first place, and so
from literally cradle to grave, youknow, and all of the life span
in between. I mean, you'vegot you know, my daughter and my
mother and then me in the middle. You've got all of us taking this
stuff, and so to me,prevention is just as important as well.
You know, I'm just going totake my chances, roll the dice,
and then if I end up withtype two diabetes or heart disease or cancer
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menu or whatever, then I'll havesomebody, you know, help me figure
it out. No, I wantto prevent all that stuff in the first
place. So absolutely, you know, good nutrition, as you know is
is for all of us. Youdon't just have to wait to get sick
or have some issue to deal withto then say, oh wait a minute,
maybe I should start eating better,or let me start taking this upplement.
I'm sick, now, let medo something that's okay. You do
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your exercise every day, and youdo these things that are good for your
body. Give the body the righttools, and it's amazing what it will
give you in return. I agreewith that wholeheartedly. Ask a lot of
through being a corporate speaker and travelingthe way I do, and it's amazing.
My mother often calls me the energizerbunny, you know they get She'll
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tell me I get tired you justtelling me what you do. But I
really genuinely feel that the only reasonwhy I can't accomplish what I accomplish is
because I take care of my brain. And in order to take care of
my brain, it means you haveto take care of your body. But
you have to exercise, you haveto eat right, you have to do
the supplement and take those things thatyou're not going to get through through a
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diet. And I'm really curious.I'm going to definitely investigate more. You've
piqued my interest on what it isthat that you have put together, and
I'd love to see your research paperfor sure. I'll have my assistant reach
out for that. But let's justas we wrap this up, because we
could keep going down the you know, the natural health and what we need
to do for our brain and bodyto make it to how we need to
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love on our brain and body soour brain will and body will reciprocate that
to us. But we would runout of time. So let's go ahead.
Let's go so that's not a problemtotally. Let's do that. We
will have to. We can definitelyexplore the topics more and things, you
know, practical wellness things that individualscan do on a day to day basis
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in addition to supplementation. But we'regoing to go ahead and you have your
daily brain Care, is your whatyou call your flagship product, and that
contains these polysaccharoids from the Rice brandand the allo that you were talking about.
Correct, Yeah, okay, andwe they can you can get this
at dr doctor Lewis Nutrition dot com. We will put that in the show
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notes for sure. Do you haveI didn't notice any particular links other than
just your website that you you're onon the social media as doctor Lewis Nutrition
on Facebook, Instagram, Yes,so Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, a
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little bit on TikTok although politically andabout TikTok anymore. But but all those
channels you can find Doctor Lewis Nutrition. We have Daily Brink here also on
Amazon for people that prefer to shopon Amazon as well. But Doctor Lewis
Nutrition dot Com has just a treasuretrove of information. I've got lots of
articles there, I've got the otherpodcasts I've done, I've got videos,
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I've got a very extensive FAQ section. So there's a lot of information that
people can learn more. They canfind my contact information there, my phone
number, my email address. Inormally, you know, anytime somebody has
questions about either the research, theformulation, you know, anything that I
can do to help them. Itry to do my best to be very
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customer service oriented and respond to people. So I'm happy to connect anyone who
listens to this show and wants tolearn more, and I'm happy to you
know, share the papers with youwe actually published. We didn't have time,
but as I mentioned, this wasactually the fourth paper from the Alzheimer's
study we've just published. We've publishedalready two papers from the MS study,
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and then we're working on a thirdpaper from the MS study, so that
will be seven total articles out ofthe one hundred and I'm actually going on
one hundred and ninety. Now Ithink not to be too anal about that,
but I know my work has beenso important to me, and even
though I'm no longer you know,writing for publications as I would probably not
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even in my top ten priorities,but it's still as a businessman, it's
important to me as a marketer tohave a science base to what I do,
because I believe that credibility is veryimportant and I don't want to just
be like any other Tom Dick orHarry out there selling products with no foundation
in science behind them. I reallyagain, as I mentioned, I stand
behind everything that I do and Isay and I sell, and I want
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people to understand that. You know, for me that credibility is very important
and the last thing that I wouldever want to be perceived as as a
hypocrite or you know, somebody that'ssaying one thing and then doing something else.
So anybody ask questions for me orany you know, anything they'd like
to discuss, I'm happy to godown that road with them. Wonderful.
Well, thank you so much doctorLewis for being here on the Brain Ladies
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Speak Show. It was a greatconversation. I love the body, I
love the brain, and I loveother people who feel the same way.
Thank you for having me. It'sbeen a pleasure, absolutely absolutely, So
everyone who is listening or watching thislater be sure to reach out and even
if you're just curious, then followhim on the social media's right, read
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some of his blogs, read someof that information, and do your due
diligence if that's what you feel youneed to do. But of course,
as always, if you are underthe care of a physician, you know,
we always want to put that putthat in there, that disclaimer in
there, double check with anything,and don't just don't just stop anything you're
doing right, make sure that youit'd be best to add this in and
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then maybe eventually weed off if that'swhat works out for you. So thank
you for listening. We are honoredthat you took this time to be with
us. For those guests who areor for those listeners who are out there,
we appreciate you very much. Ifyou have topics that you'd like to
see investigated here on or talked abouthere on the Brain Lady Speak Show,
please reach out, send us anemail at info at brain Lady Speaker and
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that way. And as I'd liketo close up all of my programs,
I want everyone to take a nicedeep breath, roll those shoulders back,
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Away, Julie, Welcome everyone sothe brain Lady Speaks Podcast. I am
so excited to be here once againwith you, Julie brain Lady Anderson and
share with you another really interesting interview. I just love this. I love
all things brain science. But whata lot of people don't always know about
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me as I started over thirty yearsago studying the field of natural health,
and that's kind of how I discoverednatural things for the brain, and then
I got sidetracked into all the wonderfulworld of the brain. But my heart
and my basis has always started inthat field of natural health, and so
I love when the two come togetherbeautifully and combine. And that is what
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we're going to be talking about todayis natural natural things that help the brain.
And we are here with doctor JohnLewis. Doctor Lewis, thank you
so much for being on the BrainLady Speak Show. Thank you for having
me. It's my pleasure. I'mlooking forward to our conversation today. I
love it. I love it,and we have a mouthful of a topic.
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I might say about it, abrain full. Before we get started,
let me just read a little bitabout your professional bio. It's really
long, and we'll put the wholebio in the show notes, but for
right now, I'm just going togive you a nice introduction on let the
people listening or watching this video knowa little bit about your background. So
John E. Lewis, PhD isthe founder and president of Doctor Lewis Nutrition
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and will give you information on howto contact that later and past full time
and current voluntary Associate professor in theDepartment of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the
University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. He is a Diplomat, Diplomat faculty
member and advisor of the Medical WellnessAssociation. He has been the principal investor
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investigator of over thirty different studies inhis research career. During that time,
he either directly raised or indirectly supportedraising over twenty three million dollars in grants,
gifts, and contracts for research studiesand clinical trials, and educational programs
for medical students. Here's where itgets really cool. Much of his resource
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has been focused on evaluating the effectsof nutrition, dietary supplementation, exercise,
and medical devices on various aspects ofhuman health and disease. He and his
colleagues have been continually searching for waysto help people achieve and maintain health through
natural treatments that align with our physiology. Doctor Lewis also embodies the model of
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health himself and wellness by eating awhole food, plant based diet for over
twenty six years, so an earlyadopter for that, taking certain key supplements
and through a rigorous daily exercise trainingprogram. John has a passion for educating
others about the value of nutrition,exercise, and health, and will continue
to study the application of clinical nutritionfor the benefit of mankind. Thank you
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so much, doctor Lewis for beingon the show. Thank you for that.
We're welcome. I appreciate it.I look forward to our conversation,
forward to sharing mutual interests and hopefullyeducating your listeners about some things that I've
done in my career so far.I love it. I love it.
And the topic is the importance ofpolysachrides pscharides psackrides for brain health, immune
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function, and quality of life.And that's a big long word, but
you're going to explain to us whatthat is because it's really in food,
although there is some artificial ways thatyou can get it as well. So
tell us a little bit. Let'sjust start with that, so we're well,
actually, let's back up before that. What got you interested in this?
Like, you've had this beautiful careerwhere you've done a ton of things
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and I didn't even list at all, But what was what started your interest
in really kind of that natural healthor or how to benefit help our body
be its best through exercise and dietand natural nutrition. What got you started
and interested in that great question?I think I would take it all the
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way back, excuse me, whenI was a little kid and my grandfather
was pitching baseball to me out inthe backyard, and it really set me
on a path of being physically activeplaying sports. And then in university,
in undergrad I got into drug freecompetitive bodybuilding, and so I was always
fascinated with movement and playing sports andbeing competitive on that level. And then,
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as we all do, we youknow, we change, we evolved,
we learned new interests. When Iwas really focused on exercise, training
and movement in terms of how thataffects the body, and in my case
specifically looking in how to make mymuscles grow and you know, again be
a competitive bodybuilder, I began thinkingabout what that would mean for the rest
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of my life, and I decidedI couldn't really see myself making a living
as a bodybuilder. And I really, you know, as I mentioned,
I wasn't willing to go down theroad of taking drugs to take it to
that next level of competition. Somy competitive interests in terms of health and
what I really started to shift towardmore of a health orientation. And so
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I realized pretty early, fortunately prettyearly in my life, when in my
mid twenties, that health was waymore important than you know, competing in
some I don't know, narcissistic thinglike bodybuilding. And with all due respect
to you know, all the peopleout there who continue participating bodybuilding, it's
a fine thing. I don't reallyknock it. It actually did a lot
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for me in terms of the wayI looked at my body and you know,
again creating sort of the sense ofreally looking at how the body works
in response to exercise and nutrition.But again I realized that for most people
it's just not practical or are reallydoable to make a living that way.
And so as I thought about itand I reflected, I just thought,
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well, you know, people aremuch more There are so many more people
that have health issues. And thatreally was, you know, a defining
shift for me. But I've justalways had an interest in something like you
you know, you're talking about yourhistory and natural health. I mean,
I I never could accept just theconventional medical way of doing things in the
United States, and I continued learningabout nutrition way beyond what I had learned
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in graduate school as a as ayou know, in my program in physiology,
and with all due respect to myprofessors, it wasn't their thing,
you know, natural health and wellnesswasn't really their thing. So I actually
learned a lot more of this stuffreally through my own interests and then meeting
other people along my life's journey thatintroduced me to certain key things Polly Sacharides,
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for example. Hopefully we'll talk aboutthat a little bit later, but
it's really been an interesting evolution tothe point where, you know, for
example, growing up in the South, I for taste. I had no
mentor or no family member who atefor health. My dad thought a meal
was not a meal without a coupleof things, a piece of some type
of beef and a glass of milk, and a piece of bread. And
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if he didn't have if dad didn'thave all three of those things, white
bread, that's right, exactly,some kind of white bread or corn bread,
you know, something like that.If Dad didn't have those three components
to his meals, he was nota happy camper. So you know that
was the kind of culture that Igrew up in. And you know,
my I mean, I still atea lot of fruits and vegetables. It
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wasn't like I only ate those foods. But again, I didn't eat for
health, you know, I wasreally just eating for taste like all of
my families. So for me,like you know, eating a plant based
diet for the last twenty six years, and thank you for calling me an
early adopter. This definitely was notsomething that you know, I was looking
for in celebrities or you know,entertainers or whatever. I had nothing to
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do with that. This was reallyfor me, my own exploration into my
own health and well being and lookingat all the literature about nutrition and how
a plant based died. And youknow, and I mean again, I
know it's arguable we've got all thesepeople out there preaching keto and carnivore and
all this meat based approach, whichI'm not into arguments. I really have
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no time for drama or arguing.It's not my thing. But in my
opinion and my own review of theliterature, I think it's a very strong
argument to make about eating a predominantlywhole food plant based diet, even if
you don't go all the way,but just relying on most of your food
that way. That's my again,my opinion of my review of the research,
and even some of the own someof my own research that we published
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looking at those those differences. SoI think, as you said in the
closing comment of your introduction to me, my mission, besides my dietary supplement
company and the work we're doing there, my mission is still as much as
one man can to try to helppeople be healthy. And that's not just
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about the brain. It's really youknow, from head to toe. It's
our health. Our health is ourwealth. And if you're not taking care
of your health, I don't carehow much money you have, how you
know, how many cars you have, what kind of clothes you wear,
your jewelry, your home, anythingelse tangible. If you're not taking care
of this thing when all those otherthings matter, yeah, yeah, you
can't enjoy them if you're sick.And it is interesting to me. One
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of the things that interested me innatural health three decades plus ago is the
fact that the body is so beautifullymade that if you give it the right
tools, the right input, you'llget the right output. And you know,
you'll get that, you'll have theenergy, you'll have you'll have better
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health. And so I was veryfascinated when it went through. It's through
that and now incorporating the neuroscience init too, because it's the body,
the body and brain. It's allone, one system, and if one
system is off, then the othersystem suffer because you can't it's it's not
you can't just take one part outand keep keep the liver healthy and then
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the rest of the body can goto you know you. It doesn't work
that way. Everything has to beeverything has to be pulled together. So
let's talk about that that big longword, the polysacharoides psycharides. What is
that and where is it found innature? And then how is it also
supplemented? So I love the opportunityto talk about polysachrides, and that's really
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where I've focused so much of myresearch for almost the last twenty years,
because it is an opportunity to talkto you know, anyone. Typically most
people don't know what polypsycharides are.Most people are really unfamiliar with the term.
But if I may, I'll justsort of jump around this a little
bit as I answer the question.One of the things that's as you well
know, fascinating about where we aretoday as a society is for the last
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what is it? I don't know. Ten twenty thirty, maybe even forty
years, we've been led to believe, mostly through the media, that sugar
is bad for us, right,Like you hear the word sugar and you
immediately think, oh my gosh,that's bad. You know, bad,
bad, bad. But there aretwo very interesting characteristics at least, But
I think the two most important characteristiccharacteristic about sugars are one their source and
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to their biochemical structure. So polysacchrideis just simply a complex sugar. If
you take the base of the wordsachride, you have really generically speaking,
three different types of sugars. Youhave monosaccharides, the most simple molecular sugars,
then you have disachrides that are alittle bit more complex, and then
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you have poly or oligosacrides, themost complex types of sugars. Now,
the work that my colleagues and Ihave done have focused primarily on polysacrides from
two particular sources. One is zalveraand one is rice brand. And I
would argue that those two particular plantsare two of the most amazing plants that
Mother Nature, God, the Universe, the source, whatever you want to
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refer to it, based on yourbelief, has bestowed upon human beings to
utilize for their health and well being. We have shown time and time and
again, and all these clinical trialsthat we ran, and all the papers
we publish subsequent to those studies showingthe benefits of these polysacchrides. So I
right there with anyone who says hyructosecorn syrup is not good for us.
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Of course, right right, that'sprocessed. We're not taking process exactly.
It's a simple sugar. It's beenmodified from a to z. It spikes
your insulin, it spikes your glucose, It does all these bad things for
us. So absolutely, that's thetype of sugar that you don't want to
consume. Ever, if not,you know, very infrequently. Of course,
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sucrose is a bit more complex.It's a disachriide. And then again
you have these polysachriides from alvera.It's commonly referred to as manos a smanna
acetylated polymannose. There are several differentsynonyms are basically the same complex sugar,
and then the rice brant again isa different class but still a very complex
sugar. So anytime I hear someonesay, oh, sugar is bad for
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you, it just really it reallygrinds me because they're making that statement out
of ignorance. Yeah, and reallythey're just throwing the baby out with the
bathwater. It's just, you know, a blanket statement that comes from ignorance
and not knowing that you have tobe very careful. I mean me as
a scientist, as a writer,I'm somebody who's very particular and careful about
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the language. So I really havea hard time when I hear, you
know, these ongoing messages in themedia talking about sugar as being bad for
humans. It's absolutely a ridiculous statement. And I'm trying that's one of the
things in my lane, in myzone and my expertise, if you will,
of where I'm trying to help people, you know, not just fall
for that, not just accept somebodyelse, some other you know, talking
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head or public health whatever, youknow, making these statements that don't have
any real meaning because it's too looseand it's too generic. So Ali Vera
and Rice brand In my opinion,are providing again these nutrients that and oh,
by the way, I don't careif you're vegan or carnivore, or
keto or zone or paleo or youknow, weight watchers Jenny kra I don't
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care what your dietary preference is.You're not getting these things from your diet.
So it is very important to getthese things from your dietary supplements.
Hopefully in my case, you'd youknow, you'd look to me for for
some of us stuff. But it'sit's very important to understand that, you
know, and I used to bedifferent about this. I used to think
that you would be okay, ifnot optimal optimally healthy with just mostly your
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food. But I've really come aroundfull circle in you know, running again,
running these clinical trials for nearly thelast two decades, and everything that
I've looked at in terms of,you know, these polysacrides and the difficulty
in trying to get them in somethingnot as a dietary supplement. Anybody who
makes the statement that, oh,you don't need supplements again, I think
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that's a very bad statement that comesfrom ignorance and really isn't fully grasping what
things like these polysaccharides can do forhealth. So it's been a fascinating your
I mean, depending on how muchtime we have, we can you know,
go into this a little bit.But again it's these probably sacrifice.
I would put them up against whateverit is for cuman, vitamin D,
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vitamin C, any other nutritional orphytonutritional compound or molecule. I would really
put these up. Arguably is justabout as effective as anything else that I'm
aware of it. It's been studiedas much as they have. Yeah,
So it's is it one of thosethings then that you mentioned Alivera and Rice
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brand, that you don't want tojust eat Alivera and Rice brand and that's
not necessarily going to get you thethe as the results that you want as
the density or the the powerful thepower of it once it's in a supplement.
Well, that's a great question,and thank you for following that with
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that question, because you're exactly right. So, for example, in the
case of Alivera, the inner leafgel is not and a half ninety nine
percent water, So imagine to tryto get enough polysacchride content in eating that
gel would be impossible. You'd neverget enough gel in your system to have
any kind of a therapeutic benefit,and more or less, the same thing
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is true for rice brand. Mostof the world, seventy eighty percent of
the world prefers to eat white rice. When the rice is taken out of
the field and into some facility forprocessing, the outside brown kernel part of
it, that's the brand, itgets stripped off, and then the final
product that goes to the stores andrestaurants for the most part is white rice
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that has no brand in it,So the brand ends up either being thrown
away or fed to livestock unfortunately,but for even still for someone like me,
I don't know about you. Ilike organic brown rice. I eat
it nearly every day. But Ithink eating like say a half a cup
or even a cup if you will, how much ever you eat, would
be enough brown rice to get theconcentrated amount of the rice brand that you'd
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need again to have a therapeutic benefit, especially in the face of some really
significant health challenge. So, yes, you're exactly right, you really need
a good quality dietary supplement for thesetwo nutrients specifically, I mean some others
may be debatable in terms of whatyou can get out of food or not,
But for these two in particular,Yes, you really need a dietary
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supplement to get a therapeutic benefit.Again, especially in the face of a
health challenge. Yeah, I appreciatethat because I know that I'm a big
person for taking you know, specificsupplements. You know, don't just go
crazy with every single thing that popsup on your Instagram feed, but you
know, knowing that our diets aren'tsufficient oftentimes in the things that we need,
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they just they just aren't. Whetherit's because we're not eating one hundred
percent correct or we're not the nutrientsin the food is not as dense.
You know, there's all of thesedifferent reasons that I firmly believe that supplementation
is with specific things is very,very beneficial for the body and for the
brain. So let's talk about thatfrom a brain point of view. So
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I'd love to hear because I amfascinated with the brain. I'm fascinated with
brain function and how to utilize naturalmethods or as natural as we can to
maximize our brain power, because ourbrain is amazing, but we're barely tapping
into it. And oftentimes because ofthe air, the water, the lack
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of exercise or poor diet or whatever. Our brains just aren't working. So
what have you to their peak?What have you discovered in your research the
connection between brain health or optimum brainfunction and polysaccharides. Great question, and
I totally agree with you. It'samazing how little the average person is really
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functioning in terms of what he orshe is putting in his or her mouth,
and then how that translates into reallyphysical and emotional mental functioning. But
I would say, Julie, atthis point, the highlight of my academic
career, which I'm no longer fulltime in academics as of the last six
and a half years, was theclinical trial that we conducted in people with
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moderate to severe Alzheimer's disease, which, as you well know, is just
such a terrible, tragic disease.It's now the sixth leading killer of Americans.
Gosh, we can't even come toa scientific consistency consensus on what causes
the disease, let alone from aconventional perspective knowing how to help these people,
and you know, what a horriblefate for anyone to have. But
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we looked at our polysacchride base,our alo polymennose based formula, and we
put people with this disease and thesewere moderate to severe severity people. So
these were not mild cognitive impairment ornewly diagnosed. They had to be diagnosed
for at least one year, andthey were at the sickest state, and
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we didn't care about, you know, their medication or their diet, or
their activity or anything else. Weliterally just introduced this formula into their diet.
Based on what my colleague, doctorRegi McDaniel, who had really gotten
me into this whole polysach Ride areaabout almost twenty years ago, had been
doing some work with people with Parkinson'sand MS and dementia and had some really
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exciting results, but hadn't at thatpoint conducted any type of political trial,
and he wasn't in an academic settingat that point anyway. But he had
given a lecture and his family,this husband and wife, heard him give
this lecture and they ended up agreeingto give doctor McDaniel some funding if he
would agree to do a study inAlzheimer's. So that was how this all
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came about anyway. It wasn't evenbecause you know, the Alzheimer's Association or
NIH or somebody like that gave usmoney. It was actually through the generosity
of this one family. But whatwe ended up discovering was nothing short of
I mean, I would just sayagain it has been to this point the
pinnacle of my research career. Soafter twelve months and we looked at cognitive
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function according to the ad AS COGand a few other things. But as
I'm sure you know, the aightAS COG is widely considered to be the
gold standard of assessing cognition, especiallyamong dementia studies. It's been published in
I don't know, probably several thousandarticles at this point at least. But
we did. We did the neurocognitivetesting at baseline three, six, nine
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and twelve months, and then wedrew blood at baseline in twelve months.
Unfortunately, our budget was limited,we were not able to draw blood at
the three, six and nine months, But anyway, we showed clinically and
statistically significant improvement in cognitive function atnine and twelve months. That's and maybe
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you know the literature better than Ido, but that is absolutely, to
my knowledge, unheard of. Youcan compare that to the five FDA approved
drugs for dementia, any other typeof diet supplement, a dietary intervention,
an exercise intervention, hyperbaric oxygen,sound therapy, music therapy, acupuncture.
I don't care what other type ofintervention or treatment you want to compare it
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to. And I'm not trying tosound like an ego, you know,
an egotistical jerk or a very arroganthere. I'm just telling you that you
know from what we ran, youknow the study we ran and the results
we published. We now have actuallyfour papers. The fourth one has just
been accepted for publication in the Journalof Alzheimer's Disease just a few weeks ago.
That will be out very soon.That's another topic I can share with
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you if you like. But those, I mean, those changes in cognition
were just beyond anything we expected.I had literally caregivers and staff members calling
me, of course, the caregivers, not so much the staff, but
the caregivers calling me in tears aswe were running the study of joy,
telling me that their loved one wasnow doing things that in some cases he
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or she had not done in years. I mean talking about you know,
people, events, anniversaries, birthdays, remembering children's names, again, I
mean just incredible responses that we wereoptimistic going in, but quite frankly,
we didn't have any idea. Youknow, running a study, you never
really know. You feel good aboutthings, you know as you get start,
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you know, you never really knowtill they are what they are and
you actually run the statistics. Butbased on those kinds of anecdotal responses as
the study was being conducted, Ifelt confident that eventually the data would show
really nice things, and they did, and then supporting the clinical improvements,
what we showed on the sailor levelwas that we were able to lower inflammation
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according to VEJEF and TNF alpha,which are two CIDO kinds and growth factors
that are normally looked at and studiesin heart disease and cancer. Our paper
was probably the first one that publishedthat in Alzheimer's disease. We showed an
improvement in overall game function according tothe CD four to CD eight ratio.
The CD fours are our helper sales, the cdights are our cytotoxic cells.
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So we want that ratio to beas high as possible as we age,
especially you know, for all ofus, not just for people with Alzheimer's
and then finally we showed just undera three hundred percent increase in adult stem
cells according to CD fourteen cells.Now, yeah, now we didn't have
money in the budget to do anytype of imaging, and this was close
to fifteen years ago, so Idon't know, the imaging technology maybe back
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then wasn't really as sophisticated as itis today. Nonetheless, you know,
without having that type of data,you have to be the biggest skeptic in
the world to look at our data, look at our study and say,
okay, you have this clinical improvementon the one side, you have all
this stuff going on on the otherthat support it. The only thing that
made sense to us, and it'sa bit theoretical, but we we really
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emphasized in the discussion section of thatfirst paper that with the improvement in cognitive
function and lowering inflammation, improving overallimmune function, and then improving really dramatically
that stem cell production process, thebodies inherent intelligence was able to send those
stem cells out to the brain andeitherheat it, you know, create new
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neurons, create new synapses, whateverwas occurring under the idea of neuroplasticity and
or you know, improving the damagedareas or both or again it's a bit
theoretical and a bit speculative on thatside, but that's the only thing that
makes sense to us in terms ofhow else do you explain the clinical improvement.
There's the results of their explanation.Yeah, it would be really interesting
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to be able to repeat a studywhere you could do it before a you
know, pre impost brain scan tobe able to see Yeah, that would
be and that I'm sorry interrupted,I was just going to say to follow
up on that. So prior tome leading academics full time back in seventeen,
so that's again six and a halfyears ago from the time we published
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that first paper in thirteen up untilmy resignation, I tried a couple of
times with the Alzheimer's Association, acouple of times with NIH. I was
so excited, Julie. I wentfrom being you know, on top of
the mountain, thinking that I wasreally onto something, that this discovery was
going to you know, really takeme a lot of places academically in my
research career to them getting this muchin response from NIH and Alzheimer's Association.
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So for me, I went againfrom the top of the mountain to you
know, somewhere down in the valley. And I just I said, you
know what, I'm a black sheep, I'm a guy. I'm a physiologist
doing all this nutrition research. I'mnot doing pharmacology. I'm not doing genetics.
And all these big you know,these big bureaucrats, they talk a
big game. They may you know, give a little bit of airtime to
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nutrition, but behind the scenes,they don't care. This is nutrition is
not what they care about. Theycan't make any money on it. They
can't do a licensing deal with bigPharma and you know, end up making
millions or hundreds, hundreds of millionsor billions on that, so they don't
care about nutrition. And it wasthe it was literally the beginning of the
end for me of my academic career. I knew I was not going to
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spend another twenty or thirty or whatevera number of years just banged my head
against the wall in an academic setting, you know, begging other people that
don't care about my work for moneyto do that work. Because and I
don't know how much you know aboutthis process, but typically you submitted a
proposal to one of these agencies andyou're just submitting an idea. Yeah,
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you submitted an idea with data withthe backup with to back it up exactly,
and not with data, but datathat actually showed something to help arguably
the most desperate, dire chronic diseasein our society today. And you mean
to tell me that you you hadno interest in helping you know, this
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guy Lewis and his colleagues to extendthis I mean what you know again?
And I get very emotional and passionateabout this stuff because when I tell the
good side of the story and Iget chill bumps and I and I start
reflecting, you know, all thefamilies that have been affected by our work
and been helped by this. Andthen on the other side, and I
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start feeling you know, angry andceration at how that study you know,
has just been sitting there. AndI had, even after leading academics for
the first few years, I stillsort of had this idea in my mind
of you know, asking some wealthyperson who had more money than he had
common sense to you know, writeme a five million dollar check and say,
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here, John, go you knowresearch that you want to do.
I just I gave up on thatafter a while, when I couldn't make
any headway with that, I justdecided, I want to try to make
my business as successful as possible tobe able to do those studies in the
future myself. It's going to takeme a longer time to there, but
I just I decided, you know, a few years ago, I was
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just going to stop asking for moneyfor research because I just never came across
that person who was willing to helpme, you know, sort of take
this all this work that we've doneto the next level. But it's a
difficult It's a difficult industry for sure, and it is that. It is
an industry right, It has aright. It has the business attached to
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it, which can be very frustratingfor individuals who are in the natural field.
Right. Although I think there's Ithink there's promise there, it's just
it might take a whole lot longerthan what you or I might like.
I would be very I actually wouldbe very there's as you're saying these things,
I'm thinking, hmm, I'd loveto see how it would how your
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products would react with a couple withinmy family and close I have a very
close friend who's ten years younger thanme. I don't even know if she's
fifty yet. And she's been sufferingwith Parkinson's for several years. She was
very young when she was diagnosed,and she's done some major things that have
only given her a measure of relief. And I don't know, I might
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just have to, you know,get her on your supplements and see how
it. How do do my ownyou know, double blind study absally well,
we we currently have a family thatI'm working with there in England,
and the mom of the two sons, this lady has had Parkinson's. I
don't know how much you want meto go down this road. I'll just
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be as brief as I can.But she's in her mid seventies, had
Parkinson's for I believe it. Shewas diagnosed eleven twelve years ago, and
just in a few months of beingon our product, she's had just a
phenomenal response. I mean, hercolor even the first time I saw her
on zoom. You know, we'redoing the same thing like we're doing here.
We're tacking in every couple of months. And the first time I met
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Valerie, her face was very justkind of power looking, you know,
no color, no real energy.She was cognitively with it, but just
you know, very energy, didn'treally move, very static. And then
a couple of months later, she'sglowing. You know, she's got color
in her face, she's starting tomove more, and she also has rheumatoid
arthritis in addition to the Parkinson's.For years she could not do her hand
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like this. And then she senther son a picture of doing this for
the first time in years. Ohwow, And her nurse that helps her
with bathing and showering said, oh, I can see your vertebrae again.
You've finally, you know, forthe first time. And however long,
your swelling has gone down, andshe's got more energy. She could actually
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start walking by herself without assistance.I mean, all these things have happened
with her literally in just a fewmonths on taking this polysaccharid based formula we
call daily brain care. So Imean, it's an amazing opportunity to help
people when you, as you saidearlier, providing the materials that the cells
need to function properly. And Iwant to make sure just so that you
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know, FTC is not sniffing around. I never talk about treating disease with
nutrition. I know that's not kosher. You know, that's not what we're
supposed to say. This is waymore fundamental and more powerful than that.
This is again providing the raw materialsthat the cells need to function properly,
the genes, taking the information thatthey receive from the environment, and then
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guiding and directing the cells on whatto do. And that's restoring, repairing,
and healing itself. And that's waymore powerful than treating disease with pharmacology
with you know, one chemical forone metabolic pathway that gets altered to try
to manipulate a symptom of a disease. Way more powerful. So this is
not I don't want anybody that's listeningto this to be confused or to think
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that Lewis said, Oh, you'reusing daily brain care to treat disease.
No, we're not, right,Absolutely, we're not. We're supporting cellular
function. We're providing the materials thatthe cells need to function properly. Yeah,
And this might be a good placeto insert a general disclaimer for anyone
who's listening. I do this oftentimeson the Brain Lady Speak show. If
you are under the care of aphysician. I encourage you to not just
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based on this show alone, stopeverything right. Always always consult with your
physician or anyone who's under whose carryyou're under. Never ever, cold turkey
go off of any kind of medicationsthat you are currently on that needs to
be discussed with your with your doctor. However, this is just a different
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a different way of looking at things. It's an opportunity to perhaps include something
that maybe you haven't thought of before. So just keep that in mind.
Anyone who's listening or anyone who iswatching this when it airs to be sure
to keep that. Keep that inmind. And if you're really curious,
obviously reach out to doctor Lewis NowI might ask you go ahead, take
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ahead on that, just absolutely please. We don't have to our knowledge,
and I say, doctor McDaniel andI and the people we've worked with over
the years, we don't to ourknowledge, any there's no known negative interaction
or adverse effect with anybody's medications.So I always tell people this is one
hundred percent natural, it's plant based, there's nothing synthetic. To our knowledge,
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there's nothing that would cause any typeof negative interaction with your medication regimen.
So for example, as you know, things like per cumin and ginko
baloba, they're natural blood dinners.So for people on Carelin or plavix or
something, obviously those might be anissue. But for us, we don't
have anything like that in our formula, so we don't we're not aware of
any current negative adverse interaction or polypharmacyeffect that you might experience with some other
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things. Yeah, good to knownow that might bring that kind of brings
me to one of the questions thatwe we had prepared to talk about is
can someone just go okay? Andwe talked about it a little bit with
the ala vera, right, butkind of expand on that. Can someone
it obviously is something that be consumedon a daily basis. Right, it's
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food. It's good, solid foodthat the brain embody needs for optimal health,
Right, that's right. Can someoneget the same benefits from including like
just brown rice for example, justeating you know, plenty of brown rice.
Can you get those same benefits fromthat as you would from say,
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taking a high quality supplement. No. I would go back to what we
said earlier, and I believe,I truly believe that you need especially in
the face of any type of serioushealth challenge, be it you know,
something related to the brain or reallyanything else that you really need a concentrated
amount of these polysaccrice from Alvera andrice brand that you need to get in
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a supplement. Certainly, eating ricebrand with your meal in brown rice,
for example, obviously is you know, better than eating white rice. But
I don't believe that you're going toget a therapeutic benefit from eating just brown
rice alone. And certainly again nobody'sgoing to eat Alivera. I mean we,
I don't know about you. We'vegot some olvera growing in the backyard,
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but we don't go out and youknow, cut a leaf off,
and you know, su suck downthe jail or anything exactly well, you
know, rub it on a cutor something. But we're not, you
know, sucking it down, youknow, from the jail. So uh
no, I really, with allseriousness, I do believe that you need
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it in a concentrated form in adietary supplement to have a therapeutic benefit,
and even for prevention. If Imay, I'll just kind of extend the
point a little bit to say that, you know, we think of prevention
a lot, and we wonder,well, how does this work for prevention?
Well, for example, in myfamily's case, so we have a
three and a half year old andwhen she turned six months, we started
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introducing solid foods into her diet.I started giving her the polysacch rides.
Then at six months, this girlnow is three and a half years old,
healthy as a horse or sharp asattack. I mean, like a
brain like you can't believe talk abouta brain. I mean this child.
Not to brag too much about herbecause she's mine, but just an incredible
brain. My mother has been onit for close to fifteen years, this
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formula. I've been on it forover ten years. My wife's been on
it a couple of years. Shewas a little bit more stubborn to you
know, to come around on it. But I mentioned all of our family
for two reasons. One because Iwould never sell anything that I would not
take myself and also give to myown family. And two, you know,
again, prevention to me is justas important as treatment or rehabilitation.
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You want to prevent these things fromhappening in the first place, and so
from literally cradle to grave, youknow, and all of the life span
in between. I mean, you'vegot you know, my daughter and my
mother and then me in the middle. You've got all of us taking this
stuff, and so to me,prevention is just as important as well.
You know, I'm just going totake my chances, roll the dice,
and then if I end up withtype two diabetes or heart disease or cancer
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menu or whatever, then I'll havesomebody, you know, help me figure
it out. No, I wantto prevent all that stuff in the first
place. So absolutely, you know, good nutrition, as you know is
is for all of us. Youdon't just have to wait to get sick
or have some issue to deal withto then say, oh wait a minute,
maybe I should start eating better,or let me start taking this upplement.
I'm sick, now, let medo something that's okay. You do
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your exercise every day, and youdo these things that are good for your
body. Give the body the righttools, and it's amazing what it will
give you in return. I agreewith that wholeheartedly. Ask a lot of
through being a corporate speaker and travelingthe way I do, and it's amazing.
My mother often calls me the energizerbunny, you know they get She'll
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tell me I get tired you justtelling me what you do. But I
really genuinely feel that the only reasonwhy I can't accomplish what I accomplish is
because I take care of my brain. And in order to take care of
my brain, it means you haveto take care of your body. But
you have to exercise, you haveto eat right, you have to do
the supplement and take those things thatyou're not going to get through through a
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diet. And I'm really curious.I'm going to definitely investigate more. You've
piqued my interest on what it isthat that you have put together, and
I'd love to see your research paperfor sure. I'll have my assistant reach
out for that. But let's justas we wrap this up, because we
could keep going down the you know, the natural health and what we need
to do for our brain and bodyto make it to how we need to
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love on our brain and body soour brain will and body will reciprocate that
to us. But we would runout of time. So let's go ahead.
Let's go so that's not a problemtotally. Let's do that. We
will have to. We can definitelyexplore the topics more and things, you
know, practical wellness things that individualscan do on a day to day basis
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in addition to supplementation. But we'regoing to go ahead and you have your
daily brain Care, is your whatyou call your flagship product, and that
contains these polysaccharoids from the Rice brandand the allo that you were talking about.
Correct, Yeah, okay, andwe they can you can get this
at dr doctor Lewis Nutrition dot com. We will put that in the show
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notes for sure. Do you haveI didn't notice any particular links other than
just your website that you you're onon the social media as doctor Lewis Nutrition
on Facebook, Instagram, Yes,so Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, a
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little bit on TikTok although politically andabout TikTok anymore. But but all those
channels you can find Doctor Lewis Nutrition. We have Daily Brink here also on
Amazon for people that prefer to shopon Amazon as well. But Doctor Lewis
Nutrition dot Com has just a treasuretrove of information. I've got lots of
articles there, I've got the otherpodcasts I've done, I've got videos,
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I've got a very extensive FAQ section. So there's a lot of information that
people can learn more. They canfind my contact information there, my phone
number, my email address. Inormally, you know, anytime somebody has
questions about either the research, theformulation, you know, anything that I
can do to help them. Itry to do my best to be very
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customer service oriented and respond to people. So I'm happy to connect anyone who
listens to this show and wants tolearn more, and I'm happy to you
know, share the papers with youwe actually published. We didn't have time,
but as I mentioned, this wasactually the fourth paper from the Alzheimer's
study we've just published. We've publishedalready two papers from the MS study,
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and then we're working on a thirdpaper from the MS study, so that
will be seven total articles out ofthe one hundred and I'm actually going on
one hundred and ninety. Now Ithink not to be too anal about that,
but I know my work has beenso important to me, and even
though I'm no longer you know,writing for publications as I would probably not
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even in my top ten priorities,but it's still as a businessman, it's
important to me as a marketer tohave a science base to what I do,
because I believe that credibility is veryimportant and I don't want to just
be like any other Tom Dick orHarry out there selling products with no foundation
in science behind them. I reallyagain, as I mentioned, I stand
behind everything that I do and Isay and I sell, and I want
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people to understand that. You know, for me that credibility is very important
and the last thing that I wouldever want to be perceived as as a
hypocrite or you know, somebody that'ssaying one thing and then doing something else.
So anybody ask questions for me orany you know, anything they'd like
to discuss, I'm happy to godown that road with them. Wonderful.
Well, thank you so much doctorLewis for being here on the Brain Ladies
(43:51):
Speak Show. It was a greatconversation. I love the body, I
love the brain, and I loveother people who feel the same way.
Thank you for having me. It'sbeen a pleasure, absolutely absolutely, So
everyone who is listening or watching thislater be sure to reach out and even
if you're just curious, then followhim on the social media's right, read
(44:13):
some of his blogs, read someof that information, and do your due
diligence if that's what you feel youneed to do. But of course,
as always, if you are underthe care of a physician, you know,
we always want to put that putthat in there, that disclaimer in
there, double check with anything,and don't just don't just stop anything you're
doing right, make sure that youit'd be best to add this in and
(44:36):
then maybe eventually weed off if that'swhat works out for you. So thank
you for listening. We are honoredthat you took this time to be with
us. For those guests who areor for those listeners who are out there,
we appreciate you very much. Ifyou have topics that you'd like to
see investigated here on or talked abouthere on the Brain Lady Speak Show,
please reach out, send us anemail at info at brain Lady Speaker and
(45:00):
let us know what you'd like tohear about. If you found this fascinating,
if you have somebody in your familythat perhaps has some of the things
that we some of the discomforts intheir life that we talked about today,
and you'd like for them to hearthis information, then share this, share
this podcast out, give us athumbs up, give us a positive review,
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so we can get that whole algorithmthing going and get this message out
even more because that's what we wouldlove to do, is help people in
that way. And as I'd liketo close up all of my programs,
I want everyone to take a nicedeep breath, roll those shoulders back,
go out there and simply enjoy everymoment. Thanks for being
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