July 31, 2024 • 30 mins
We return with part two of our conversation with the Exquisitely Aligned, Gina Maier Vincent. Her courageous story comes to a climatic and uplifting conclusion, with the final words between Julie and Gina guaranteed to make you want to get up and fight for all that you deserve and all that is naturally yours, in your brain and your heart.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to the brain Lady Speaks podcast
show with Julie brain Lady Anderson. Last week we introduced
you to the charming Gina Vincent and shared the first
half of her conversation with our brain Lady. So today
please enjoy the insight and the wisdom with the conclusion
only here on brain Lady Speaks.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What we're trying to highlight here is if you are
faced with something a situation that seems like a no
win situation, how do you mentally get yourself in a
place where you take control of your brain and you're like, okay,
wait a minute, I know I have the ability to
think this through. How do I do this?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah? And I like, yeah a lot. I did a
lot of things.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Really, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I was fortunate enough to be healthy enough, you know,
like looking back, I was healthy enough and young enough
to have the energy. Also, I'm gonna bring in intuition.
I was also all my life had trusted my intuition.
It saved me from being married to the wrong guy.
(01:21):
I mean I was engaged to him for three out
of the nine months when I finally realized okay this,
you know, although I want to be married. He's not
the right man. And I think that I was fortunate
to be able to take and harness all of that.
But I sat in meditation. I realized from my yoga
(01:47):
practice that I needed to take the anger that I
was feeling. I'm sure I cried on the ride home,
but I was more angry than sad. If you can that,
I know it makes me sound like a raging lunatic,
but I was. I was. I was like, how dare you?
(02:10):
You don't understand. I brought home a child from a
different country. I made like a spiritual contract with a
woman I never met to care for this child. You
cannot take away that her dad, you know what I mean?
Like I had all these reasons in my mind, you know,
(02:32):
and our biological son, like he deserves a dad. This
is not going to fly for me. And I took
every single ounce of that anger and put it into Okay,
how do I what do I do with this? I
think we oftentimes feel energy in different ways. I'm very
(02:53):
energy sensitive. I think you know that from the last
time we spoke. But it's it's figuring out what do
I do with this and where do I want to?
Like you said, shift it where do I want to
move it to? And for me, it was like I
need to think this through. I am a problem solver.
I can think into the future in the sense of
(03:15):
being a futurist. I was a department store buyer, so
I could take what you're wearing now and think what
would Julie want to come and buy six months from
now based on how you know that kind of stuff.
So I had to really think through like if I
stay so I played I'm a math person. If then,
if then, if we stay here, what would it look like? Yeah,
(03:39):
that doesn't look pretty. If we so, what are our
other options? And honestly, back then, I didn't even know
that our health insurance would cover a second opinion, Like
I didn't know that because I never had a health crisis.
Right when I asked my husband and like, you know,
(04:02):
we need to get you out of here, we need
to be somewhere else, he was like, no, I'm too sick.
And I was like, okay, Mark, you're a family doc.
What would you do for your patient? And he's like,
I'd get them a second opinion exactly, See how you
didn't think Twice? I said, how much is it going
to cost us. He said, it's not going to cost us.
(04:25):
Our insurance will pay. And so it's I think sometimes
we have to just start asking questions of ourselves. But
go to a place where you can be by yourself.
And I physically remove myself from the energy of the
hospital because the smell, the lights, the people were not happy,
(04:46):
the patients were very sick where we were. So I
needed to go outside. I needed to go back to
my house, my safe space. I like to be surrounded
by beauty, which could be flowers or water fountains. Yeah, yeah,
you know. I did a ton of meditation. I like
to pray. I'm a prayerful person, so I did that.
(05:10):
I mean, it was a lot of like slow down,
almost stop to be so that I could hear and
receive inspiration, guidance, you name it. I was receiving everything,
like oh wait, we could go to another hospital. Who
(05:32):
would that be? And you know, I am not one
of my gifts is I am not a researcher. My
husband and my son are. They love that, And of
course our son was too young at the time. But
I said to my husband, Okay, just for kicks, where
would you send somebody who is suffering with what you have,
(05:56):
you know, like you like that, and I knew it
would give him, even though he was very low on energy.
It like he loves that part of the research and learning.
And so when he came back to me, he came
back to me relatively quickly like, oh, you know who
would be best Mayo clinic and I don't have to
(06:20):
go far. I could go to Florida Jacksonville. And I
was like, wow, now look at that. You have two
friends that are also doctors that live in Jacksonville. One
is a male who was just recently separated or divorced
at that point, living in a big house by himself,
like the So all of the things started aligning because
(06:44):
we were now very crystal clear. And someone said, always
that manifesting, And to me, it's I think manifesting gets
a bad rap. I think people think you just say
I want a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And that you.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All in a million dollars while you're eating com bonds
polishing your right right. So for me, I like to say,
it's being exquisitely aligned where you're you're asking for your
what you see as your more. For me, the more
was having a husband who could see my son become
an Eagle Scout and graduate college, see our daughter dance
(07:22):
competitively graduate high school. And for us to be walking
hand in here here in California when we were still
living in Charlotte. You know, like these were my visions
that my mind like really, you know, clenched to. I
don't know, you probably can tell me from the medical terms,
but it was something I held so clear in my vision.
(07:47):
And I will say I I asked for guidance. I
asked for you know, God to step in and and
one thing I don't even know if you know this, Julie.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Mayo Clinic approved him. But he had to live within
six within four hours of the hospital because if somebody passed,
he had to be there within four hours. If he
was if a good match was available, he had to
be there in four hours. And so we were six
at five and a half, six hours away, and so
(08:21):
he ended up living with our dear friend who was
the doctor who had the space, and waited and he
waited thirty nine days. But that was Thursday. So about
day thirty three, thirty four was a Sunday, and we
were just approaching Thanksgiving. The kids and I were going
(08:42):
to visit him for the whole week. I was going
to take him to miss school a few days. But
that Sunday I was sitting in prayer and meditation and
just saying, please let somebody die before, you know, before
it's too late, so that he could be healthy and
come home for Christmas. And I nearly did as that thought,
(09:02):
Like that thought ran through my mind. Who the help
am I to hope somebody dies so that he could
be home for Christmas? Like what has my life become?
I mean, this is how like sleep deprived I was.
You know, I wasn't eating right the food I was eating,
(09:25):
even when it was nutritious, I couldn't break down because
my brain was just like on over everything was on overload.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And it was that moment on a Sunday morning, and
I think the kids were still sleeping that I was like, oh,
forgive me for what I just like, please forgive me.
I don't mean that. I definitely don't mean that, because
that would mean somebody would miss Thanksgiving, Christmas. Kwansa Tonica
(09:58):
like you know what I mean? Like all and I realized,
oh God, like yeah, and that's not what I want.
And so that at that moment, I just said, whatever
is meant to be, I'm good with and I felt
really good. I still was queasy to my stomach, but
I felt like, okay, hopefully I erased what I said
(10:21):
as like mine put stuff out there right.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And that was Sunday. And Wednesday night, I forgot my
phone in the car. I was so distracted. I took
the kids for Chinese food because I was like, I
can't cook, Like, just get in the car and they're like,
we have homework. My son had a homework. I was like,
it's okay, just we have to go eat Chinese food
around the corner. We'll be back quickly. And when I
(10:47):
got back to the car, I missed like multiple calls
from Mark saying they have a match. I'm on my
way to the hospital, but I don't think I'm going
to get the organs, you know, like we'll find out,
and he did. You know. It was the next morning
they started the transplant. But it was really about me
stopping slowing down. Yeah, I think everybody has to do
(11:08):
what feels right for me. It's being outside in nature,
like we've yeah, yeah, quieting the mind, so I could
really like have clarity prayer for me. It always calms me. Breathing,
lots of yoga, breathing, all those So it was many things.
(11:29):
That's a long answer to say, many things, Julie, many many, No.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And as you're saying them, as you're describing them, I'm going, okay,
that's this part of bearing. Okay, that's that part of ring.
And so to kind of unravel a lot of what
you were experiencing. From a neuroscience point of view, Yeah,
we say and do crazy things when we don't when
our frontal cortex isn't engaged when we're acting on emotion.
(11:55):
And this is something that a lot of people don't realize.
That emotion center of the brain, so the limbic system
where you're all of you process all the emotions, that
works eighty thousand times faster than our thinking portion of
our brain. So when we are acting on emotion, we
oftentimes don't think the right things, or that things come
(12:20):
out of our mouth that we can't we're like like
trying to grab and bring back and we aren't able
to do that problem solving because again that's all done
in the preformal cortex. And it's important to understand you
had made a comment. Let me see if I can
remember this when you when you were angry and the
doctors had said that they wouldn't pull the team together
(12:43):
at the old hospital, and you went home and you
you put yourself in a place where you were like, Okay,
I have to I have to think this through. What
you know, what are we what? What's the next step?
You had to step out of that emotion. And it's
important to understand that there's if you're going through you
can try to think logically, and if your emotions have control.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You can't. And it's it's it's fascinating to be in.
It's also as a mother, you can see it in
a child too.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, yes, that's one of the reasons why I tell
parents all the time, especially with teenagers. I just had
a client call the other day and she was like,
he did this, and he can and he said, wrote
me this big, long apology letter and and and I
you know, and I felt so bad. I just don't
understand why he did it in the first place. I'm like,
because he doesn't have a pre cortex completely connected, right,
(13:37):
He can't.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He can't. It's not there.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And that's what that's what happens to all of us
in those moments of heightened emotion and being able to
go to a place where you can breathe, re engage that,
you know, kind of calm that emotion center and get
to that point where you can re engage that that
prefrontal cortex. And it's not always able to be done
(14:01):
just through thoughts, right right, You have to you have
to do the external stuff. You have to be being
in beautiful green spaces. That's actually does change the brain chemistry, right,
Movement changes the brain chemistry. So oftentimes if you're frustrated,
go for a walk. Oh yes, you know, get the exercise, Yeah,
(14:21):
a fast one. Get that exercise, because that's gonna that's
going to start to engage the ship, excuse me, shift
that brain chemistry to a point where you can actually
focus and you can actually start to think. And kind
of the same thing with your husband. You gave him
a task. He was in the emotion giving up, I
(14:44):
don't have the energy, and you gave him something that
would engage that thought process and got him out of
that emotional giving up state and into into that Oh
and one more thing I wanted to mention about intuition.
Into also gets a bad rap a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And one of the things that is fascinating when you
look at there's actually identified a home of intuition in
the frontal right portion of the brain. And when you
are really engaging intuition, it's your brain processing multiple pieces
of data and then forecasting the potential yeah, right, the
(15:24):
potential outcome. So it's like looking at okay, wait, there
was this memory. I learned this in school. This happened
to me as a child, right, And you're pulling all
that data together and going so the potential outcome could
be this, or it feels right to do this because
all these facts that I just pulled together, So it
(15:44):
actually is a it's a very strong brain function, neurological
brain functions.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So yeah, and I see oftentimes little kids are very
they're heightened, right, and then if the parent doesn't celebrate
it with them and kind of it's them like yeah no,
or don't you know it, they become disconnected. And I
think also food and things like that improper sleep. But
(16:10):
you're right, it's I think we have so much at
our fingertips between micro expressions. I was at an event
where somebody was speaking a younger younger person was speaking.
When I say younger, they were an adult but not
my out in my age group, and I just thought something,
(16:36):
I see burnout, you know. And then the next thing,
I know, after the event a few weeks or whatever,
was you know, severe like medical emergency, and it was
like wow, you know, you were always getting these signals,
and it's what what are we going to do with them?
Are we going to trust ourselves and what we see?
(16:58):
You know? So I'm glad you brought that up. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, and it isn't It is important to understand
that that if your if your brain is off, if
any segment of your brain, we want all of our
brain to work in sync together, and if any segment
of our brain isn't, like if our emotion center's two,
we're not. We can't. Everything's out of sync. If our
action center is too active, right, and so your your
(17:24):
your nervous system, your card you know, that's like off,
then the rest is off. So it's it is it's
like the rest of the body. It has to be
holistically pulled together. So I want to hear the good
news because your husband is healthy and with you still.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Right, I always please forgive me. I always forget to
tell that part of the story. So he's actually going
to be on my show, Julie uh uh, which is
something unusual because he is he has plenty to say,
but he's a very quiet man.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And we.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Had a revelation. So our son, as a surprise for us,
didn't tell us, but he was the commencement speaker for
his school at school within usc and it was lovely.
So unfortunately, one of his close friends by accident told
us the secret because he's like, you must be so proud,
(18:23):
and we're like, proud of what? But anyway, we got in.
I didn't know Mark knew Mark didn't know I knew
the same kid said the same thing to both of us.
So it was very very funny. But I was like, no,
let's sit like right here because I think that and
Mark's like, oh, okay, yeah, we'll sit right here. But
it was such a proud moment, right and I filmed
(18:45):
it because I knew he was getting ready to walk
to the mic, and I posted it on Facebook. But
the school posted it on their social media and Mark
had seen it on LinkedIn and they took a quote
from our son and they took a quote from the
(19:05):
gentleman who did a beautiful job he spoke for the
master's degree, and my husband shared the post on his
LinkedIn and as friends responded, he came to me. It
was like nine thirty ten at night. I was kind
of tired at this point, and he goes, you know what,
when our friends were responding about Kay's commencement speech, I
(19:30):
realized I almost wasn't here for it. And I was like,
oh my god, Julie. Fourteen and a half years later,
he's finally like it really sunk in. I'm not going
to tell you he's not grateful for his transplant. He is,
but I do think he's in my opinion, I'm not
(19:52):
a doctor, but I would. I feel like sometimes he
struggles with how did I get so lucky? My mom
di how did I get so lucky? A forty year
old woman died and I got one kidney and her liver,
Like you know that that kind of maybe worthiness. But
I was like, I said to him, you know what,
(20:14):
I think you need to be on my show. I'm
not going to ask you any questions now I have
a million, but like I'd love to hear from your side.
But I want it filmed, not just that, because I
think there's going to be nuggets in there for other
people as well who are absolutely walking a similar journey
or just you know, have those things like, yeah, we
(20:37):
are so fortunate and blessed to be able to have
this healthy brain. And like you were just saying that imbalance,
which is a lot of the work that I do
with people from a different angle than you, but of
seeing that when something is imbalanced in our body like
brain chemistry, et cetera, or in our life, everything else
(21:00):
can you know, not come together. It's those little tiny things,
you know, when people I just wrote an article and
part of it will be in my book, but about
when I hear a woman say they're going to reinvent themselves,
I just like my stomach just gets in such a
(21:21):
knock because it's like, what is there to reinvent? You're
so amazing, Why would you like erase yourself and start
over like you were created in magically mystically, you know,
in this beautiful, exquisite way. It's just these little minor
I mean, I don't know if you would agree, but
(21:42):
the work that I do is these just minor shifts,
like very very I never asked somebody to be totally
different than who they are. It's just like a little Hey,
did you ever look over here? Did you ever take
sixty seconds and just switch the way you heard that
in your head? You know? I mean, would you agree
(22:04):
or do you feel like you're doing construction? No?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, no, I agree one hundred percent. One of the
things that I like to always emphasize to to any
of my clients is we have to we have to
find out. It's oftentimes our life experiences move us so
far from who we're naturally meant to be that we
don't even know who we are, Like, we don't. That
(22:30):
looks so foreign to us. And this is one of
the reasons why sometimes things like I say, there's a
whole lot more to life than affirmations. I'm not saying
don't say affirmations. I'm saying you can't. You can't change
something that may have been so massive of a diversion. Yes, right,
with just one one thing. You have to start breaking
(22:53):
it down and discover who you really are. Yes, And
I think that's pure. You know you're you talk about
that exquisite alignment, and I talk about that innate who
are you naturally. What's your DNA code?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, because that's where you're gonna feel when you're exquisitely
aligned or when you're living with your DNA code in place.
Now you feel it, yes, right, everything, Yeah, it's like
it feels so good and it's no longer feeling foreign.
But yeah, you can't. There's too many layers to an
(23:27):
onion to just all of a sudden, you know, you've
got to peel it back one at a time and
make those those little changes and unravel that little you know,
the trauma a little bit at a time, because you
don't want to, you know, send the brain into massive
you know default, fight, fight or flight.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Right, that's what I was going, yeah, because that's not
that's not healthy either. And that's where I was, right.
I was screaming like a lunatic, help help help you, like,
you know, waving my arms and screaming my Italian hand
and getting louder and louder because they weren't listening, you know,
and then I had to go back and be quiet
(24:07):
and listen in and yeah it's it's I love. I
love having conversations with you and hearing the medical you know.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, and I love hearing your experience and thank you
so much for sharing it. I mean, we have this
has been such a wonderful conversation, and I know we
could just keep going, but we'll just have to do
a part twenty seven next year or something. Well, I'll
just have to, you know, come back around, because there's
so many more things that we could talk about. What
(24:40):
what do we do? What are some of those steps
to do to take for you to find a lot
you know, what you what you describe as alignment? What
are those things? And I think starting with that, I
love your sixty seconds right starting there, I think is
absolutely a beautiful place. And then always rea out removing
(25:02):
the shame or the stigma or the labels around having
a coach or having somebody just help you kind of
open the curtains just a little bit, just a little
bit too, you know, And I love it and I
know that's what you do, so I am going to
encourage it has been Thank you so much for being
(25:24):
so transparent with us and sharing such a deep, deep
story and the lesson that I really want, or I
should say, the message that I really want the listeners
to walk away with is Gina's amazing and stay connected
with her, and that when you when you really put
your use the gift that you have in your own
(25:46):
brain and your own thinking, wonderful things can happen and
you can get through some very tough times. Even if
it would have been on the negative and Mark may
not have made it, you still would have been able
to because of your knowledge, been able to, you know,
eventually work through the steps with by engaging your brain
(26:07):
and gaining that alignment.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So you know, we'll add to that, Julie for just
a half a second. I did. I did get to
a point where I realized it wouldn't be the worst
thing for Mark to pass away. The worst thing would
be for him to be living on like some kind
of support in a home away from the three of us,
(26:34):
you know. And when I came to that place that
there it's not black and white. There's like he could
live and thrive, he could die, but he could also
be like not fully alive, but alive and be you know,
on some kind of where he was living on dialysis
(26:55):
for decades and you know, maybe having full time care
at the house or in the facility for such a
young guy back then, you know, that's when I That's
the other thing that my mind actually showed me is
that there's there are other things sometimes I think we
it's blackbirds, right, it's you know, one or the other.
(27:18):
There are middle grounds and finding that space where I
could finally have the piece to say, Okay, I see,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Beautiful story, beautiful story and beautiful ending that you guys have,
you know, watching your son graduate, your daughter graduate, you know,
just and still being together, because that too, that's a
you know, that's an accomplishment twenty some odd years later.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It'll be twenty five on October second.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, OK, congratulations. Wonderful, wonderful, all right, Gina, Well let's
wrap this up, Gina. How can people be in touch
with you if they're like, if they are as enamored
with your wonderful personality as I am, and they want
to stay connected, how do they find you?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yes, you can find me on social media, Gina Meyer,
Vincent or Exquisitely Aligned, And the website is the same,
and I know you put it in the show notes.
And I just want to say a quick thank you
to you, Julie, because it's always a great honor to
be in your presence and to share such a fabulous conversation.
(28:27):
And thank you for even asking the difference between having
my son and adopting our daughter, because I've never gotten
to discuss that, So thank you for all you do.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Absolutely, absolutely my pleasure, my pleasure. I look forward to
more conversations in person and in recording and staying connected
on many on many levels. So thank you for being
here Gina and sharing your story. And for those who
are listening or watching, thank you so much much. We're
honored that you took the time to be with us
(29:02):
and to hear this information. And I really want you
to walk away with that message that you your brain
listens to what you're telling it in your mind. So
take the time, take the sixty seconds, get a timer, right,
take the sixty seconds, take some deep breasts, sit in
nature and just breathe into it and engage that brain,
(29:24):
and you'd be amazing the problems that you can solve
or the clarity that you can come to just by
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Hello, and welcome back to the brain Lady Speaks podcast
show with Julie brain Lady Anderson. Last week we introduced
you to the charming Gina Vincent and shared the first
half of her conversation with our brain Lady. So today
please enjoy the insight and the wisdom with the conclusion
only here on brain Lady Speaks.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What we're trying to highlight here is if you are
faced with something a situation that seems like a no
win situation, how do you mentally get yourself in a
place where you take control of your brain and you're like, okay,
wait a minute, I know I have the ability to
think this through. How do I do this?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah? And I like, yeah a lot. I did a
lot of things.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Really, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I was fortunate enough to be healthy enough, you know,
like looking back, I was healthy enough and young enough
to have the energy. Also, I'm gonna bring in intuition.
I was also all my life had trusted my intuition.
It saved me from being married to the wrong guy.
(01:21):
I mean I was engaged to him for three out
of the nine months when I finally realized okay this,
you know, although I want to be married. He's not
the right man. And I think that I was fortunate
to be able to take and harness all of that.
But I sat in meditation. I realized from my yoga
(01:47):
practice that I needed to take the anger that I
was feeling. I'm sure I cried on the ride home,
but I was more angry than sad. If you can that,
I know it makes me sound like a raging lunatic,
but I was. I was. I was like, how dare you?
(02:10):
You don't understand. I brought home a child from a
different country. I made like a spiritual contract with a
woman I never met to care for this child. You
cannot take away that her dad, you know what I mean?
Like I had all these reasons in my mind, you know,
(02:32):
and our biological son, like he deserves a dad. This
is not going to fly for me. And I took
every single ounce of that anger and put it into Okay,
how do I what do I do with this? I
think we oftentimes feel energy in different ways. I'm very
(02:53):
energy sensitive. I think you know that from the last
time we spoke. But it's it's figuring out what do
I do with this and where do I want to?
Like you said, shift it where do I want to
move it to? And for me, it was like I
need to think this through. I am a problem solver.
I can think into the future in the sense of
(03:15):
being a futurist. I was a department store buyer, so
I could take what you're wearing now and think what
would Julie want to come and buy six months from
now based on how you know that kind of stuff.
So I had to really think through like if I
stay so I played I'm a math person. If then,
if then, if we stay here, what would it look like? Yeah,
(03:39):
that doesn't look pretty. If we so, what are our
other options? And honestly, back then, I didn't even know
that our health insurance would cover a second opinion, Like
I didn't know that because I never had a health crisis.
Right when I asked my husband and like, you know,
(04:02):
we need to get you out of here, we need
to be somewhere else, he was like, no, I'm too sick.
And I was like, okay, Mark, you're a family doc.
What would you do for your patient? And he's like,
I'd get them a second opinion exactly, See how you
didn't think Twice? I said, how much is it going
to cost us. He said, it's not going to cost us.
(04:25):
Our insurance will pay. And so it's I think sometimes
we have to just start asking questions of ourselves. But
go to a place where you can be by yourself.
And I physically remove myself from the energy of the
hospital because the smell, the lights, the people were not happy,
(04:46):
the patients were very sick where we were. So I
needed to go outside. I needed to go back to
my house, my safe space. I like to be surrounded
by beauty, which could be flowers or water fountains. Yeah, yeah,
you know. I did a ton of meditation. I like
to pray. I'm a prayerful person, so I did that.
(05:10):
I mean, it was a lot of like slow down,
almost stop to be so that I could hear and
receive inspiration, guidance, you name it. I was receiving everything,
like oh wait, we could go to another hospital. Who
(05:32):
would that be? And you know, I am not one
of my gifts is I am not a researcher. My
husband and my son are. They love that, And of
course our son was too young at the time. But
I said to my husband, Okay, just for kicks, where
would you send somebody who is suffering with what you have,
(05:56):
you know, like you like that, and I knew it
would give him, even though he was very low on energy.
It like he loves that part of the research and learning.
And so when he came back to me, he came
back to me relatively quickly like, oh, you know who
would be best Mayo clinic and I don't have to
(06:20):
go far. I could go to Florida Jacksonville. And I
was like, wow, now look at that. You have two
friends that are also doctors that live in Jacksonville. One
is a male who was just recently separated or divorced
at that point, living in a big house by himself,
like the So all of the things started aligning because
(06:44):
we were now very crystal clear. And someone said, always
that manifesting, And to me, it's I think manifesting gets
a bad rap. I think people think you just say
I want a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And that you.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All in a million dollars while you're eating com bonds
polishing your right right. So for me, I like to say,
it's being exquisitely aligned where you're you're asking for your
what you see as your more. For me, the more
was having a husband who could see my son become
an Eagle Scout and graduate college, see our daughter dance
(07:22):
competitively graduate high school. And for us to be walking
hand in here here in California when we were still
living in Charlotte. You know, like these were my visions
that my mind like really, you know, clenched to. I
don't know, you probably can tell me from the medical terms,
but it was something I held so clear in my vision.
(07:47):
And I will say I I asked for guidance. I
asked for you know, God to step in and and
one thing I don't even know if you know this, Julie.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Mayo Clinic approved him. But he had to live within
six within four hours of the hospital because if somebody passed,
he had to be there within four hours. If he
was if a good match was available, he had to
be there in four hours. And so we were six
at five and a half, six hours away, and so
(08:21):
he ended up living with our dear friend who was
the doctor who had the space, and waited and he
waited thirty nine days. But that was Thursday. So about
day thirty three, thirty four was a Sunday, and we
were just approaching Thanksgiving. The kids and I were going
(08:42):
to visit him for the whole week. I was going
to take him to miss school a few days. But
that Sunday I was sitting in prayer and meditation and
just saying, please let somebody die before, you know, before
it's too late, so that he could be healthy and
come home for Christmas. And I nearly did as that thought,
(09:02):
Like that thought ran through my mind. Who the help
am I to hope somebody dies so that he could
be home for Christmas? Like what has my life become?
I mean, this is how like sleep deprived I was.
You know, I wasn't eating right the food I was eating,
(09:25):
even when it was nutritious, I couldn't break down because
my brain was just like on over everything was on overload.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And it was that moment on a Sunday morning, and
I think the kids were still sleeping that I was like, oh,
forgive me for what I just like, please forgive me.
I don't mean that. I definitely don't mean that, because
that would mean somebody would miss Thanksgiving, Christmas. Kwansa Tonica
(09:58):
like you know what I mean? Like all and I realized,
oh God, like yeah, and that's not what I want.
And so that at that moment, I just said, whatever
is meant to be, I'm good with and I felt
really good. I still was queasy to my stomach, but
I felt like, okay, hopefully I erased what I said
(10:21):
as like mine put stuff out there right.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And that was Sunday. And Wednesday night, I forgot my
phone in the car. I was so distracted. I took
the kids for Chinese food because I was like, I
can't cook, Like, just get in the car and they're like,
we have homework. My son had a homework. I was like,
it's okay, just we have to go eat Chinese food
around the corner. We'll be back quickly. And when I
(10:47):
got back to the car, I missed like multiple calls
from Mark saying they have a match. I'm on my
way to the hospital, but I don't think I'm going
to get the organs, you know, like we'll find out,
and he did. You know. It was the next morning
they started the transplant. But it was really about me
stopping slowing down. Yeah, I think everybody has to do
(11:08):
what feels right for me. It's being outside in nature,
like we've yeah, yeah, quieting the mind, so I could
really like have clarity prayer for me. It always calms me. Breathing,
lots of yoga, breathing, all those So it was many things.
(11:29):
That's a long answer to say, many things, Julie, many many, No.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And as you're saying them, as you're describing them, I'm going, okay,
that's this part of bearing. Okay, that's that part of ring.
And so to kind of unravel a lot of what
you were experiencing. From a neuroscience point of view, Yeah,
we say and do crazy things when we don't when
our frontal cortex isn't engaged when we're acting on emotion.
(11:55):
And this is something that a lot of people don't realize.
That emotion center of the brain, so the limbic system
where you're all of you process all the emotions, that
works eighty thousand times faster than our thinking portion of
our brain. So when we are acting on emotion, we
oftentimes don't think the right things, or that things come
(12:20):
out of our mouth that we can't we're like like
trying to grab and bring back and we aren't able
to do that problem solving because again that's all done
in the preformal cortex. And it's important to understand you
had made a comment. Let me see if I can
remember this when you when you were angry and the
doctors had said that they wouldn't pull the team together
(12:43):
at the old hospital, and you went home and you
you put yourself in a place where you were like, Okay,
I have to I have to think this through. What
you know, what are we what? What's the next step?
You had to step out of that emotion. And it's
important to understand that there's if you're going through you
can try to think logically, and if your emotions have control.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You can't. And it's it's it's fascinating to be in.
It's also as a mother, you can see it in
a child too.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, yes, that's one of the reasons why I tell
parents all the time, especially with teenagers. I just had
a client call the other day and she was like,
he did this, and he can and he said, wrote
me this big, long apology letter and and and I
you know, and I felt so bad. I just don't
understand why he did it in the first place. I'm like,
because he doesn't have a pre cortex completely connected, right,
(13:37):
He can't.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He can't. It's not there.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And that's what that's what happens to all of us
in those moments of heightened emotion and being able to
go to a place where you can breathe, re engage that,
you know, kind of calm that emotion center and get
to that point where you can re engage that that
prefrontal cortex. And it's not always able to be done
(14:01):
just through thoughts, right right, You have to you have
to do the external stuff. You have to be being
in beautiful green spaces. That's actually does change the brain chemistry, right,
Movement changes the brain chemistry. So oftentimes if you're frustrated,
go for a walk. Oh yes, you know, get the exercise, Yeah,
(14:21):
a fast one. Get that exercise, because that's gonna that's
going to start to engage the ship, excuse me, shift
that brain chemistry to a point where you can actually
focus and you can actually start to think. And kind
of the same thing with your husband. You gave him
a task. He was in the emotion giving up, I
(14:44):
don't have the energy, and you gave him something that
would engage that thought process and got him out of
that emotional giving up state and into into that Oh
and one more thing I wanted to mention about intuition.
Into also gets a bad rap a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And one of the things that is fascinating when you
look at there's actually identified a home of intuition in
the frontal right portion of the brain. And when you
are really engaging intuition, it's your brain processing multiple pieces
of data and then forecasting the potential yeah, right, the
(15:24):
potential outcome. So it's like looking at okay, wait, there
was this memory. I learned this in school. This happened
to me as a child, right, And you're pulling all
that data together and going so the potential outcome could
be this, or it feels right to do this because
all these facts that I just pulled together, So it
(15:44):
actually is a it's a very strong brain function, neurological
brain functions.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So yeah, and I see oftentimes little kids are very
they're heightened, right, and then if the parent doesn't celebrate
it with them and kind of it's them like yeah no,
or don't you know it, they become disconnected. And I
think also food and things like that improper sleep. But
(16:10):
you're right, it's I think we have so much at
our fingertips between micro expressions. I was at an event
where somebody was speaking a younger younger person was speaking.
When I say younger, they were an adult but not
my out in my age group, and I just thought something,
(16:36):
I see burnout, you know. And then the next thing,
I know, after the event a few weeks or whatever,
was you know, severe like medical emergency, and it was
like wow, you know, you were always getting these signals,
and it's what what are we going to do with them?
Are we going to trust ourselves and what we see?
(16:58):
You know? So I'm glad you brought that up. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, and it isn't It is important to understand
that that if your if your brain is off, if
any segment of your brain, we want all of our
brain to work in sync together, and if any segment
of our brain isn't, like if our emotion center's two,
we're not. We can't. Everything's out of sync. If our
action center is too active, right, and so your your
(17:24):
your nervous system, your card you know, that's like off,
then the rest is off. So it's it is it's
like the rest of the body. It has to be
holistically pulled together. So I want to hear the good
news because your husband is healthy and with you still.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Right, I always please forgive me. I always forget to
tell that part of the story. So he's actually going
to be on my show, Julie uh uh, which is
something unusual because he is he has plenty to say,
but he's a very quiet man.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And we.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Had a revelation. So our son, as a surprise for us,
didn't tell us, but he was the commencement speaker for
his school at school within usc and it was lovely.
So unfortunately, one of his close friends by accident told
us the secret because he's like, you must be so proud,
(18:23):
and we're like, proud of what? But anyway, we got in.
I didn't know Mark knew Mark didn't know I knew
the same kid said the same thing to both of us.
So it was very very funny. But I was like, no,
let's sit like right here because I think that and
Mark's like, oh, okay, yeah, we'll sit right here. But
it was such a proud moment, right and I filmed
(18:45):
it because I knew he was getting ready to walk
to the mic, and I posted it on Facebook. But
the school posted it on their social media and Mark
had seen it on LinkedIn and they took a quote
from our son and they took a quote from the
(19:05):
gentleman who did a beautiful job he spoke for the
master's degree, and my husband shared the post on his
LinkedIn and as friends responded, he came to me. It
was like nine thirty ten at night. I was kind
of tired at this point, and he goes, you know what,
when our friends were responding about Kay's commencement speech, I
(19:30):
realized I almost wasn't here for it. And I was like,
oh my god, Julie. Fourteen and a half years later,
he's finally like it really sunk in. I'm not going
to tell you he's not grateful for his transplant. He is,
but I do think he's in my opinion, I'm not
(19:52):
a doctor, but I would. I feel like sometimes he
struggles with how did I get so lucky? My mom
di how did I get so lucky? A forty year
old woman died and I got one kidney and her liver,
Like you know that that kind of maybe worthiness. But
I was like, I said to him, you know what,
(20:14):
I think you need to be on my show. I'm
not going to ask you any questions now I have
a million, but like I'd love to hear from your side.
But I want it filmed, not just that, because I
think there's going to be nuggets in there for other
people as well who are absolutely walking a similar journey
or just you know, have those things like, yeah, we
(20:37):
are so fortunate and blessed to be able to have
this healthy brain. And like you were just saying that imbalance,
which is a lot of the work that I do
with people from a different angle than you, but of
seeing that when something is imbalanced in our body like
brain chemistry, et cetera, or in our life, everything else
(21:00):
can you know, not come together. It's those little tiny things,
you know, when people I just wrote an article and
part of it will be in my book, but about
when I hear a woman say they're going to reinvent themselves,
I just like my stomach just gets in such a
(21:21):
knock because it's like, what is there to reinvent? You're
so amazing, Why would you like erase yourself and start
over like you were created in magically mystically, you know,
in this beautiful, exquisite way. It's just these little minor
I mean, I don't know if you would agree, but
(21:42):
the work that I do is these just minor shifts,
like very very I never asked somebody to be totally
different than who they are. It's just like a little Hey,
did you ever look over here? Did you ever take
sixty seconds and just switch the way you heard that
in your head? You know? I mean, would you agree
(22:04):
or do you feel like you're doing construction? No?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, no, I agree one hundred percent. One of the
things that I like to always emphasize to to any
of my clients is we have to we have to
find out. It's oftentimes our life experiences move us so
far from who we're naturally meant to be that we
don't even know who we are, Like, we don't. That
(22:30):
looks so foreign to us. And this is one of
the reasons why sometimes things like I say, there's a
whole lot more to life than affirmations. I'm not saying
don't say affirmations. I'm saying you can't. You can't change
something that may have been so massive of a diversion. Yes, right,
with just one one thing. You have to start breaking
(22:53):
it down and discover who you really are. Yes, And
I think that's pure. You know you're you talk about
that exquisite alignment, and I talk about that innate who
are you naturally. What's your DNA code?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, because that's where you're gonna feel when you're exquisitely
aligned or when you're living with your DNA code in place.
Now you feel it, yes, right, everything, Yeah, it's like
it feels so good and it's no longer feeling foreign.
But yeah, you can't. There's too many layers to an
(23:27):
onion to just all of a sudden, you know, you've
got to peel it back one at a time and
make those those little changes and unravel that little you know,
the trauma a little bit at a time, because you
don't want to, you know, send the brain into massive
you know default, fight, fight or flight.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Right, that's what I was going, yeah, because that's not
that's not healthy either. And that's where I was, right.
I was screaming like a lunatic, help help help you, like,
you know, waving my arms and screaming my Italian hand
and getting louder and louder because they weren't listening, you know,
and then I had to go back and be quiet
(24:07):
and listen in and yeah it's it's I love. I
love having conversations with you and hearing the medical you know.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, and I love hearing your experience and thank you
so much for sharing it. I mean, we have this
has been such a wonderful conversation, and I know we
could just keep going, but we'll just have to do
a part twenty seven next year or something. Well, I'll
just have to, you know, come back around, because there's
so many more things that we could talk about. What
(24:40):
what do we do? What are some of those steps
to do to take for you to find a lot
you know, what you what you describe as alignment? What
are those things? And I think starting with that, I
love your sixty seconds right starting there, I think is
absolutely a beautiful place. And then always rea out removing
(25:02):
the shame or the stigma or the labels around having
a coach or having somebody just help you kind of
open the curtains just a little bit, just a little
bit too, you know, And I love it and I
know that's what you do, so I am going to
encourage it has been Thank you so much for being
(25:24):
so transparent with us and sharing such a deep, deep
story and the lesson that I really want, or I
should say, the message that I really want the listeners
to walk away with is Gina's amazing and stay connected
with her, and that when you when you really put
your use the gift that you have in your own
(25:46):
brain and your own thinking, wonderful things can happen and
you can get through some very tough times. Even if
it would have been on the negative and Mark may
not have made it, you still would have been able
to because of your knowledge, been able to, you know,
eventually work through the steps with by engaging your brain
(26:07):
and gaining that alignment.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So you know, we'll add to that, Julie for just
a half a second. I did. I did get to
a point where I realized it wouldn't be the worst
thing for Mark to pass away. The worst thing would
be for him to be living on like some kind
of support in a home away from the three of us,
(26:34):
you know. And when I came to that place that
there it's not black and white. There's like he could
live and thrive, he could die, but he could also
be like not fully alive, but alive and be you know,
on some kind of where he was living on dialysis
(26:55):
for decades and you know, maybe having full time care
at the house or in the facility for such a
young guy back then, you know, that's when I That's
the other thing that my mind actually showed me is
that there's there are other things sometimes I think we
it's blackbirds, right, it's you know, one or the other.
(27:18):
There are middle grounds and finding that space where I
could finally have the piece to say, Okay, I see,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Beautiful story, beautiful story and beautiful ending that you guys have,
you know, watching your son graduate, your daughter graduate, you know,
just and still being together, because that too, that's a
you know, that's an accomplishment twenty some odd years later.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It'll be twenty five on October second.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, OK, congratulations. Wonderful, wonderful, all right, Gina, Well let's
wrap this up, Gina. How can people be in touch
with you if they're like, if they are as enamored
with your wonderful personality as I am, and they want
to stay connected, how do they find you?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yes, you can find me on social media, Gina Meyer,
Vincent or Exquisitely Aligned, And the website is the same,
and I know you put it in the show notes.
And I just want to say a quick thank you
to you, Julie, because it's always a great honor to
be in your presence and to share such a fabulous conversation.
(28:27):
And thank you for even asking the difference between having
my son and adopting our daughter, because I've never gotten
to discuss that, So thank you for all you do.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Absolutely, absolutely my pleasure, my pleasure. I look forward to
more conversations in person and in recording and staying connected
on many on many levels. So thank you for being
here Gina and sharing your story. And for those who
are listening or watching, thank you so much much. We're
honored that you took the time to be with us
(29:02):
and to hear this information. And I really want you
to walk away with that message that you your brain
listens to what you're telling it in your mind. So
take the time, take the sixty seconds, get a timer, right,
take the sixty seconds, take some deep breasts, sit in
nature and just breathe into it and engage that brain,
(29:24):
and you'd be amazing the problems that you can solve
or the clarity that you can come to just by
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