Remote Viewing in the Yoga Sutras

Remote viewing practices described in Pantanjali's Yoga Sutras

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Episode Transcript

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Hello, Hello, Hello, andwelcome back to Brainbow. Today on the
show, we're gonna be talking aboutremote viewing and the Yoga Sutras. So
it's basically it's basically the same premise, which is remote viewing is when your

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spirit leaves your body and you it. They call it astral projection or you're
basically going around like a ghost,right, And so it's talked about in
the Yoga Sutras by a yogi thatis named punt and Jolly. I'm not
familiar with him. I'm sorry.I'm just gonna be honest about that.

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I looked him up a bit andI'm like, Okay, there's a lot
of information here to digest, andI'm gonna take this out into chunks.
I wanna just you know, beforeI go into who he is, I
have to do some research on him. And this whole week I've been really
like bearing down on remote viewing.It's something that I've been I've been studying

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for a very long time, butI stopped doing it because it just weird
stuff, you know. Just thisis like for other podcasts, but basically
dealing with psychic phenomenon and leaving yourbody it it opens you up and leaves

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you vulnerable to certain types of psychicattacks. Also, there's like a whole
other world taking place in different dimensions, and I didn't want have anything to
do with it. I started learningabout spiritual possession and merging consciousness with others
and and and it's there's people thatare a lot more depth than I am,

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and I just wanted to back awayfrom it. And it's funny,
It's like what brought me back toit was my cat, you know,
like looking for my missing cat.And so now I'm I'm all gung ho
about getting into it. And beforeit was like, yeah, I don't

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want to be delving into paranormal stuff. I've had psychic experiences ever since I
can remember. You know. Iused to make my mom afraid with because
she just figured, like anything,any kind of psychaic ability is from the
devil. That's just what she believedin where she came from. And a
lot of people believe that too.A lot of Christians believe that opening yourself

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up to psychic ability is dangerous.And so I guess I have that preconditioned
prejudice and fear about it. Also, and I always felt like there's something
wrong with me, and it mademe feel like just like kind of like

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maybe I am evil or something,you know. So that's something I struggled
with. And so it's not Ididn't want to get in too remote viewing.
But anyways, I'm looking for mycat and so I'm I really want
to find him, and I couldsense him, and I've had dreams about
him, and I know he's alive. And I am now at the weather.

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It's we're nearing November now and thenorthern have hemisphere and it gets really
cold, and where I am it'sraining, and it felt like a tornado
was coming today too. Now inthe Midwest, when it hails and then
all of a sudden it stops andit like gets kind of eerie and quiet
and in the sun comes out.That's like tornado weather, and it's weird

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because it didn't happen here, andI'm just like I'm used to it happening.
So it's kind of funny how we'reare. We're conditioned to be afraid
of things because of early experiences,and it takes a it takes a lot
of new experiences to erase that.I've been also studying and practicing yoga for

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PTSD specifically for a few years now, and now I'm learning about it with
cats, and it's made me realizelike, oh, when cats they can
go, they can shift into thereptilian brain. Oh, I should probably
Okay, So I feel like there'sso much information. I'm really excited about

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this, by the way, Andthat's one of the other problems I've had
with remote viewing is being excited.It's it's good, it's it's a it's
good to have that energy, youknow, but then it's like curb your
enthusiasm when you're when you get excited, when you lose a dream where your
remote view it's like you need tobe grounded or else you just you just

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get ahead of yourself and and youneed to be able to like be calm
enough where you can receive messages whereyou're not adding onto it and you're not
like changing the perception with your ownthoughts and you know, ideas and the
hopes and stuff like that. Soyou have to really be like non attached

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and don't get in, don't cloudthe perception. It's like if you're dialing
the phone and you want to hearsomebody, if you're chattering and others are
chattering and you're thinking and you're notreally listening to what they're saying. You
know, you could be on thephone with somebody in the message and get
through. So you have to beable to be in a state where you're

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relaxed and you're listening and you're justnot being reactive. So like if I,
you know, I leave my bodyand I go up and I see,
oh, be my cat, Ican't get too excited and start thinking
like, oh what about this orwhat about that? Because then it just
like messes with the whole thing.So this is why in remote viewing they
have like cold readings, because there'sthis dynamic where we where consciousness builds on

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consciousness and so when two were atit together, it creates like a third
element. If you put two elementstogether, you can create like a third
So you want to keep it pureso that all you're doing is observing.
Just be a pure observer, justlike a scientist is supposed to be a
pure observer. You're not supposed tosay, you know, you're not supposed
to put in your mind like ohthis is probably happening because of this,

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and you know, not to makefaulty assumptions or any assumptions or you know,
to just don't get carried away withyourself. Just sit back and just
watch, you know, like sitback or relax and enjoy the movie kind
of thing. In remote viewing,there's different states of consciousness and the goal
is to get to the point whereyou're asleep, you're lucid dreaming. Basically,

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it's different when you're awake doing it. It's more like hypnosis. So
I'm going to read an article.I'm going to read an article about this.
It's clinical hypnosis and Pandagali yoga sutras. This is the I'm just going
to read the abstract from PubMed Central. It was written in twenty thirteen by

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Shatika Child, Harry and Jinny Copenhath. And I am not going to study
these people. If you're interested,then you know you could do some of
that research on your own. ButI'm going to try to get through with
this. I'm going to do thisepisode in just one hour and just focus
on states of consciousness. At theend, I want to talk to you

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about how you can do this athome. Practice grounding. This is the
most important thing because you know,if you leave your and you get excited.
It's like a lucid dream. It'slike you wake up and then it
just kind of dissipates. You guysknow what lucid dreaming is. It's when
you're sleep and then you realize you'redreaming, and then it's like it's like

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playpark. You could do whatever youwant, and it feels more real than
real because your sensory system is it'snot limited to the physical world. In
your dream, there's an infinite amountof possibilities. So let's say, for

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example, you know, if youactually went to Egypt and you went to
the pyramids and you looked at them, you know, you'd be feeling,
you know, the you'd be feelingthe sensations of the earth around you.
You'd be smelling the air, you'dbe feeling the heat or the cold,
whatever, and the wind, andyou would see things from your own perspective
of where you're standing. But ifyou're in a dream, you'd be able

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to fly around the pyramid. You'dbe able to shield yourself from any kind
of discomfort. You could change theenvironment. If it was raining, you
could make it sunny, or ifit was sunny, you can make it
you know more to your liking,so it's less hot that sort of thing.
So dreams, when you experience dreamsas a reality, it's just like

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full immersion. It's like the differencebetween watching a movie on your phone and
going to an IMAX theater, youknow, even or watching it on a
black and white television on like oneof those old vintage vhs, because that's
compared to a full immersion imax.So the imagination is just that's why people,

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you know, people that have anactive imagination enjoy reading books more because
you can add so much more toit than just the movie experience. The
states of consciousness in the West,we call them alpha, beta, delta,
and I got to look that up. I want to read this about
it here. But basically, it'slike everybody can experience just then the physical

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day to day, like this isthis, and that's this is hot,
this is cold, this is that, and that's what I'm black and this
is white, that kind of thing. And then when the more you get
into the you know what, I'mjust gonna read it. I'm just going
to read this. You see howI get excited. I get kind of
ahead on myself. That's the problemI have with remote viewing. So I

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probably should do a grounding exercise beforeI do these videos too, I mean
these podcasts. Before I do thesepodcasts, I should sit down and really
ground myself. It's I guess it'sgood to do for anything that you know,
where you have to anything that's goingto require you to keep a cool
head. And there are a lotof emotion is involved in it. There's

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some people that are just more groundedthan others too. What do we we
call people who aren't ground it?We call them flighty distractable. I hate
to say it. I'm one ofthose people, but I want to say
this too. If you're one ofthese people that are, you know,
you get excited too like that.There's a lot of giftedness that comes along

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with it. ADHD is an alllike a curse. There's a lot of
creativity. When you start becoming mentallydispersed and you're everywhere, there's a lot
of ideas that you can incorporate andyou can pull from one thing, like
your excitement will lead you to agood idea, and your excitement will lead

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you to what is hot, andso that's a good thing about it.
Another reason why I backed away fromremote viewing for a while is because I
just didn't trust myself. And thisis what you need to have. You
need to be able to trust yourself, your with your visions and your hearing,

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divine hearing they call it. Otherwise, there's a difference. The difference
between a psychic and a psycho isa lot of it just has to do
with confidence and belief in the abilityto hone your intuitive skills, and a
lot of us in the United Statesat least, have been taught that not

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only from a religious perspective, wherethis is bad because you're delving into paranormal
demonology and stuff like that, butyou're also or witchcraft. You know,
they killed witches here and you're notsupposed to talk to God. You're supposed
to go to a priest and yourpriest conveys a message. Or if you
talk to God, you're crazy.That's like, do you hear messages from

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spirits? Well, you know,at least in my country, we still
have some some respect for religion.Where's there's a fine line between. A
lot of it has to do withyour therapists. If you start telling your
therapist or your doctor like, yeah, I talk to God, you know,

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most of them will probably be okaywith it. They respect you,
even if they're an atheist or theydon't, you know, quite believe that
it's possible to talk to God orangels or anything. They'll they at least
know enough to respect your beliefs init and not like try to try to

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dictate reality to you based on theirown cultural conditioning. But then there are
some that will they mark that off. And it's actually in the DSM where
if you say that, if yousay that you have this paranormal ability,
then that's a symptom of schizoid personalitydisorder. So yeah, you gotta be

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careful in who you tell us to. And that's another reason why I backed
off, because I've had everyone aroundme tell me, you know, go
through it. My dog's knocking onthe door. Okay, So about further
Ado, let's delve into this article. The trans states in yoga and hypnosis

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are associated with similar phenomena like relaxation, disinclination to talk, unreality misrepresentation,
alterations and perception, increase, concentration, suspension of normal reality testing, and
the temporary nature of the phenomena.So this state, some people can get

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into it more easily than others.They found some Okay, this is also
called dissociative disorder. When you gointo a trans and you're you ever see
these people I do this, it'sit looks like a staring spell. There's
they actually they can measure it whenthey when they measured this on e g.
It it shows it's like a seizure. So getting into this state,

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now, I don't want to like, I don't want to be dismissive about
seizures. You know, my sonhas seizures, so I don't want to
say like, oh, it's nothing. But technically a sneeze is a seizure
too, So there are there's differenttypes of seizure activity where it's you know,

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some of it will be like aconvulsive type of seizure disorder, but
then there's an ADHD. There's justover excitabilities. And when it comes to
dissociated disorder and staring spells are verysimilar in how the brain changes to become

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overstimulated and then it just kind oflike tunes out. So then it's like
you go into this trans and Igo into it all the time. I
especially go into it when I amoverwhelmed with a lot lot of stuff of
commotion around me when I go intoa store. It happens almost all the
time. And you know, mydaughter, she noticed it with me.

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She would say that it was ayell switch because I'd go into the store
and I would just kind of freeze, you know. I mean it wouldn't
I'd be able to function, butI would just it just I don't know.
It's hard to explain. And sowhat I would do when I would
go into stores is read ingredients.I would read anything I could, and

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it would help to center me.It's this strange thing. It's like when
I was little, I would haveto read cereal boxes or like soup cans,
and I would sit in the aisleand I would just because it would
just help to help me to feellike centered and not like discombobulate it with

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all of emotion stuff around me.Sometimes it would lead me to almost have
a panic attack, and then Iwould wind up staring, and I know
that people around me will look atme like what the frick is wrong with
this girl? But I would justgo into it. So, yeah,
it happens to me. For Icould. I can go into the state
pretty much whenever I want to.Now, but it was something that I

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had to learn how to snap inand out of. So if you can
put yourself into it, you cannaturally take yourself out of it. So
about I guess I would say aboutten years ago I figured out how to
how to how to draw myself intothis state on purpose, and then when

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I did that, I inadvertently learnedhow to not have these staring spells when
I went to the store or ifthere could be a bunch of commotion and
I don't go into that dissociative statewhere I'm like, you know, staring
weirdly, and so it's almost likea daydream. It's a hypnotic state.
And usually people wouldn't talk to mewhen I was in that state because it's

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obvious you look at the person,they just look like they're daydreaming really really
hard. And so if people wouldtalk to me, I would be very
dismissive and be like yeah, yeah, uh huh uh huh, and just
kind of blow them off. Andthere's also something contagious about this too.
It's like when you're feeling like that, the other person becomes it's like almost

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tired, and they'll like yawn orthey'll kind of tune out with you,
and so people just don't want toengage, like I don't want to sit
down, and you know, starewith you weirdly. But I guess that's
why I've liked being with pets,because I could do that around them and

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it's perfectly fine and I don't feelself conscious about it. But okay,
So there are certain people that arepredisposed to going in and out of these
altered states of consciousness, and Ijust want to warn you that when you
practice this, you have to becareful because grounding is important because you're going

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to start merging into different states ofconsciousness and sharing the collective unconsciousness and consciousness.
And if you're going to a specificperson or a cat or a dog
to find them, you got toknow who you are and not like not

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become I guess schizoid, where youbecome them when they become you. So
learning how to create like a shieldand grounding, I had to figure that
out on my own. Nobody taughtme that as I was a kid.
But meditation is so important with thatbecause what happens with like people who have

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this ability in different cultures, wecall them shamans or witches even they would
send their consciousness out and they couldreceive messages from afart. This is before
telephones and all of that. Andthe ones that are able to set themselves
firmly back on the ground and notlike get confused afterward, those are the

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ones that are effective psychics. Whathappens a lot is a lot of people
go crazy because you should just haveone ghost, you know, if you're
haunted with all these other fragments ofconsciousness and stuff, then that leads to
a mental dispersion, and that's nota good thing. So I just wanted

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to It's not something to play.This is why I stopped doing it too,
because I didn't have that. Ididn't have a mentor or and I
had to figure all the stuff outfrom you know, trial and error,
mistakes and stuff. So it's notsomething that you just want to like jump
into. Like. It's best tohave somebody with you who's like a guru
or psychic who can train you,and to go into it, you know,

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seriously, and to take grounding veryvery seriously before you begin any of
these When during meditation, when yougo into a trans it's similar to hypnosis,
and so you want to be carefulwhat you surround yourself with so that
there's no like negative suggestions or thatkind of thing too. And if you

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can learn about shielding, I wantto talk about this at the very end.
I don't even know if you're interested, but you know, you can
make up your own meditations and visualizations. But then there's some I'll share with
you that I found that worked forme. I've read a lot of different
visualizations and meditation exercises to put youin a shield and ground you. But

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I think it's best. It's kindof like doing a spell, like parapsychology,
when you dose spells to increase yourconfidence, and you know, to
basically auto suggestion and neural linguistics programming. Now, I'm sorry if this sounds

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scary. This is exactly why Istopped doing it for so long. But
I've been brought back to it because, like I said, I want to
find my cat, and there arethere are some very good benefits that come
with it if we could only youknow, train ourselves properly and not like
treat it like it's some kind ofsome kind of like tool to go out

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and spy on people, right,or to mess with people that's or too
because yeah, okay, I'm gonnacontinue with this. While some researchers consider
yoga to be a form of hypnosis, others note that there are many similarities
between the trans and yoga and thehypnotic trans. The present study aimed to

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find similarities between the trans states ofhypnosis and pendangalies Yoga sutras. The trans
states were compared with the understanding ofthe phenomena of trans and the therapeutic techniques
and benefits of both. An understandingof the concept of trans and Pundanjali's Yoga
Sutras was gained through through a thematicanalysis of the book four Chapters on Freedom

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by Swami Satiyanda Saraswati. This ledto an understanding of the concept of trans
and the Yoga sutras. The obtainedconcepts were compared to the concepts of trance
and hypnosis obtained through the literature onhypnosis to investigate whether or not there exists
similarities. The findings of the studiesshow that there are similarities between the trans

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and hypnosis and the trans in Patanjali'sYoga Sutras and the induction and deepening of
the trans states in hypnosis and thatof samadi, the phenomena present in hypnosis
and the kinds of cities that areobtained through samadhi, and the therapeutic techniques
and the therapeutic process in Patanjali's yoga. Um Okay, Samadi. I think

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it's similar to two before I saysomething that I should some let me just
look this up. Samadi and thesubconscious. Pretty sure we're talking about the
same thing here. Yeah, it'slike the flow. So samadi is a
state of maximum concentration on the mindand or what we call the flow state.

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Let me just read this a littlebit. So here are the stages
to attain samadi self restraint, observance, movement and breath posture, sense of
withdrawal, concentration, meditation, unionor self realization of nirvana. Okay,

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yeah, So, so samadi isthe maximum state of concentration where the mind
goes into unites with all of thelet's say, the collective unconscious as Carl
Jung described it, or nirvana islike an ocean where you're like one drop

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in the ocean kind of thing.But maybe mine is just the bliss and
like the enlightenment because there's an ecstaticstate, which I think is different than
just the purely like meditative mental statethat you want to achieve when you're in

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because you don't want to be ecstatic. You don't want to be like,
oh bliss, because that just yeah, we just want to be like a
pure observer and like a scientist.I think that's the best way I could
describe it. And it's also likea removal of the ego, which entails

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and a removal of your own body. Okay, at the end of this
episode, I'm also going to talkto you about how to leave your body
so that your physical body can staybehind, and then you don't have the
you're not like prohibited by your bodywith its own senses. Then you're like

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a spirit. And I guess justthe excitement comes with experience. Maybe that's
part of it too. The moreyou practice it, I guess, the
less excited you'll be. Hopefully,all right, I hope I don't have
to pause this because I'm trying toget back to the page that I was

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reading. Let's just see if Ican get this. Okay, I found
it, all right, So soPandan Jolly's yoga sutras. This we're gonna

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be talking in this abstract that I'mjust gonna read because it would just take
too long to read all of theMaybe I should do that in the next
one. I should actually find thisguy's book and read it. I don't
know how that's gonna translate, butso he The four chapters on Freedom by

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Swami Santianda Saraswati led to the understandingof the concept of trance and the Yova
Sutras. Okay, so, firstof all, we have to define what
consciousness is and what our altered statesof consciousness. Consciousness can be defined as
a subjective awareness of the momentary experienceinterrupted in the context of the personal memory

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in the present state. Do youagree with that? What is consciousness?
I know that you know since twentythirty. This was pubably in twenty thirteen.
If we were to define consciousness asdefined by the subjective awareness of the
momentary experience, interpret it in thecontext of the personal memory and present state,

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I think it goes beyond that too. I think it goes beyond like
to what is going on the othersaround you too, because your consciousness will
change. If you're in a roomwith your family, your consciousness is affected
by that. If you're out inthe forest, your consciousness is influenced by
that the forest in nature. Ifyou were to go into like, let's

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say, like a hospital, yourconsciousness changes and is influenced by those around
you too. Some people are ableto go into their let's say, then
go to a Thanksgiving dinner, thengo to a hospital and talk to the
doctors, and then go to theforest, and then they are the same
person the whole time. We wouldcall this kind of person autistic because because

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you with normal people, they're theirconsciousness changes when they're with a person.
If you're with your lover, yourconsciousness is with your lover, and if
you're like you know, at workand you're sitting in a boardroom, everything
changed, Whereas an autistic person willact the same in a boardroom or at

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home with their parents because they arebeing the same you know, will mind
you like whatever the reaction requires,but they'll still basically be themselves, which
makes them look very odd and eccentricbecause it's like, you know, there
are things that are inappropriate where ifyou are engaged in a in an interpersonal

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relationship with people in the boardroom,it's going it's different than people you know,
your family members. But then it'slike, well, then who are
you if you are changing from onesituation to the next, and who are
you? This is getting into philosophicaldebate where we're talking about there's there could

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possibly be like a different kind ofego that engages with the world, which
has its own consciousness. So ina way it would be like we're haunted
by our own ego that's constructed byourselves as well as others. We'd call
this narcissism basically because because the narcissisticego is a reflection of what others constructed

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for you, which by our culturaldefinition from where I am, that makes
you sane and normal. Because ifyou if other people tell you you are
from this class and this is yourIQ, and this is your potential,
and this is your level of attractionand this is your level of worth,
and everyone's telling you this is whatyou are, well you have to agree

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to it and say, okay,I accept that this is who I am.
You told me who I am,This is who I am. If
you start thinking like, well,you know, I'm this person, but
I am going to go study balletand now I'm going to go you know,
do this, and I believe I'mlike this, and I believe I'm

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a creation of God and I havethis other potential and blah blah blah.
People will look at you like yourquirky, odd eccentric. You may even
be a danger to the status quo. And if people don't like you,
they could say that you're just straightup crazy because you're not fitting into what
you're supposed to be. So thisis when we're talking about consciousness, like

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in that way, it's co constructedwith others, unless you're autistic and you're
just doing your own thing, andthen it people don't like that because as
consciousness requires a shared reality, ifyour consciousness is different from another's and there's
no empathy, there's no understanding.It's like, I'm sorry to keep going

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on about cat, I mean,because that's literally all I'm dedicating my life
to cats right now. So I'mlearning a lot about cats. There's a
different cat consciousness. And do youever wonder like or do you ever notice
why is it that some people justhave all these cats around them. Well,
it's because they're in the cat consciousness. And when it's like cats speak

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cat and if you are in tunewith it. If that's like your if
that's like what you're dialed into andyou're on that station, then yeah,
you're gonna start getting cats from all. I got a cat. I walk
down the street, and I gotcats following me. I got cats coming
to my door. Now I understandcats. I feel like I'm like thinking

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differently, and I have to dothat because I'm trying to find my cat.
So I'm thinking more like a cat, thinking like okay, yo,
aren't And I'm thinking like a coyotetoo, and I'm thinking about like their
predators and all this other their foodsupply and all this. I have to
like get into this whole thing,and it's removing me from the normal consciousness

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of people where they're doing their ownpeople thing, and I'm like not even
a part of that anymore. Becauseif you're everywhere, you're too you're too
like thin, you know, likeyou got to like choose what you're focused
on to some extent. I wouldlove to be everywhere a lot once,
but that would mean I'm omniscient,my god, right, maybe someday I

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could do that, because there aremoments when I feel like that, like
when you're talking about Nirvana. Youfeel like you're a drop in the ocean
and it's beautiful and it's like yeah, like a lot of stuff doesn't matter
and you're everywhere all at once.I love that feeling. But I don't
know if you know, I cancontain that kind that level of expansion and

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still be able to perform like justdaily tasks. I don't know. I
probably could, and then I wouldbe like a freaking Buddha Yogi. I
would like that, but I'm notgonna I mean, hopefully someday I could
do that. That would be greatto do, to be like that all

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the time. I guess that's thatwould I'm not gonna say that I could
do that, though, I am, like, you know, I'm trying
to meditate to just like focus ongetting from anger and like too, just
like having temperance. That's something thatthis is where I'm at right now.

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So I'm not coming at you withthis, you know, in this podcast
like, oh, I'm gonna teachyou how to be like this master,
because I don't even know. I'mfiguring it out as best as I can
right now, and I'm you know, I want to be able to share
with you what I'm learning. I'mhaving fun doing this, and if there's
just, you know, somebody outthere that is going through something that I've

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been through before, then it wouldbe nice. You can learn from others'
mistakes as well as from their ownwisdom. Okay, so let's get back
to the cat consciousness what I wastalking about. So cats have a different
types a different type of consciousness,and you have to dial into it if
you want to understand them. Samething with people. You have to dial

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into that. And if you don'tlike cats, then you're not going to
do it right if it makes youunhappy to dial into it and to feel
all of their to feel the realitythat a cat out in the wild lives
with. It's actually quite sad andit's filled with a lot of a lot

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of suffering and completely alone, whereit's you against everybody else and everybody else
is against you, and that's howthey're living like that, and there's just

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like a constant battle for territory andyou can't let your guard down ever,
and so you retreat and you goand you just like try to hide as
much as possible, sleep as muchas possible so that time goes by and
sleep with one eye open, andcats go into a meditative state on their

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own where it's just being at peacewith what's happening right now, and so
their whole reality is not like thinkingabout the past that's already programmed innately,
or it's like knee jerk reaction.I caught a cat recently. This cat
I've been watching for a month.This is a stray cat who's very territorial,

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who has driven out one of thecats that drove my cat out away,
and so he's the toughest guy inthe whole neighborhood. And when I
first caught him, like, okay, he wouldn't come to me. He
was kind of like Obi where hewould come out sometimes and look at me,
but then he'd be afraid and yourun away. So when I trapped

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him first time, he got outmiraculously. Second time I trapped him,
I was so freaking scared. Thisguy was like this, he's a really
big cat, and I thought he'sgonna kill me. Like you hear about
those stories right sometimes on YouTube wherethe cat like just claws the person up

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that. I thought that cat waslike that. And then it took him
like twenty four hours and then Irealized, like, this is not even
a girl cat. This is aboy cat who's neutered, and he's much
bigger than I that I saw froma distance up close, and and so
like he had like a brain shift. It went from being super aggressive,

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like I'm talking about like an animalin a cage at the circus who just
wants to you know, if you'rebringing on the cage and he's just you
know, growling at you and scaredsomething like That's that's what it was like.
And when I led him in theroom, I like shut the door
and I was like afraid to goin the room. So yeah, I

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took him twenty four hours and thenhe just his brain went back. And
so now I'm realizing, I'm likewhen somebody has brain change, their whole
perception of what's happening is altered.They see everything as a threat. Everything
has a possible threat. And sohow do you get somebody who's in that

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hypervigilant mode, which happens with PTSDtwo. You get somebody who's like in
survival state around everything looks like thisis a potential threat, because that's how
you survive if you're hyper vigilant.That's what you're doing, and so how
do you so now, like youcome out of war and now you're back
at home and you're sitting on yoursofa. It's like it's hard to transition

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from It's like a major cultural shock, right and I'm witnessing it with this
cat right now, and it's justI think it's really cool to see how
adaptive they are. They have thisbeautiful survival instinct to adapt to whatever situation

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that they're in, and it justis like their brain just like the instincts
just click on, like this iswhat you need now, Boom. It's
so cool, you know, likepeople, I don't think we can do
it. I mean I don't wantto speak for everybody, but we don't
have that like just that instinct oflike, Okay, your brain is changed
and now it's like whoever you were, then forget it. This is what

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you are now. And they justlike boom puts them into like soldier mode
and then you're not like sitting there. You have time to feel sorry for
yourself or anything. You're just likewhatever, if you have to sleep for
twenty hours, to sleep for twentyhours, and that's all they Their main
thing is to survive. I'm notlooking to be happy or reunited or have
their old life back. They're like, this is who I am right now

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in this moment, and I amgoing to live and I'm going to survive.
And that's what they That's why catshave been around for so long,
because they're good survivors. So mypoint of all that, Okay, so
going into a type of consciousness,I'm purposely putting myself into a cat consciousness
so I can empathize and understand themand hopefully track him better. And to

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do that, I have to removewhat I think, because as a human,
my first thing is like, ohmy god, a coyote's going to
eat you your dad, I'm goingto give up. Or it's like why
isn't he coming to me? Hemust not love me if he's not coming
to me, you know that kindof thing, And it's faulty thinking because
obviously it's like the cat that Ihave now is super happy to be here

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and he doesn't even look out thewindow. He's so happy and he cuddles
with me and I never would haveimagined that he would he would even well,
most people the way, if theysee how he is, they're like
leave the cat alone. He justwants to be out there. He does
not want to be out there.He's just surviving. So and you can
see how his brain just changed tocome back, and it's like, well,

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you know, now he's surviving byhaving me take care of him.
And so when when you're with people, you have to switch into their state
of consciousness and adapt to it.You when you're you know, you're at
home, say with your people,your family, you're acting one way.
You can probably you know, letdown your guard a bit, and they're

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not going to judge you as muchas say if you were in the boardroom
or you know, you're out inpublic place somewhere picking your nose or whatever.
You know. So whereas autistic peopletypically just don't have that. They
have more of a context blindness.It's like they take things and everything is

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just one context. It's like,well, you know, if i'm here
there, if this is how Iam here, then this is why I'm
here. I'm here, And thena lot of people are like, no,
that's like not appropriate and you shouldnot be acting this way over here.
You can act like this here,which you can't, and then like
you know, it's confusing because thesocialization with humans is just a lot more

(43:35):
complex, and so a lot ofautistic people just retreat within and they're like,
I don't have to deal with thisbecause it's like too complex. If
you are, like really rich,people will accept you as being quirky and
eccentric. They'll talk about behind yourback, but you know, you probably
won't care or be bothered by whatthey're saying behind your back. But if

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you're not rich, then it's like, then you're just crazy. But if
you're rich and eccentric, then you'rejust quirky. So a lot of it
has to do with your levels ofsuccess and how people judge you. Is
it a fact that if you havemoney you're better than if you don't add
money, Well, if a personis poor, they and they think,
you know, well, I'm justas worthy as they are. Not everybody

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may agree with them, but ifthey believe it, then that that's helpful
to them. Otherwise it would justcause depression and all sorts of stuff.
Right, But others may see itas like you're just wrong. You're wrong
to be happy with that, youshould be happy with this, You're wrong

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to like this kind of food,you should like that kind of food and
so on, and so it's like, this is what consciousness is. It's
a constant, like almost like amine field where if I'm in a group
with a bunch of people and one'sthinking a certain way, if I don't
participate and agree with it and sharethat with them but keep to myself instead,

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then I'm being antisocial and I maybe excluded. And to be excluded,
everybody senses that automatically. It's like, oh, this is the person,
this is the outsider, and that'snot good to be that way because
it's dangerous because people could bully you, or they could use you as a

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scapegoat because nobody really it's like theoutsider in any animal. So that's all
I want to say about their definitionof consciousness. I think it's not it's
not just your awareness in this inthe moment that you're in, but it's
also it has to do with whoyou're around, how you relate to them

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and how they relate to you.Okay. Altered state of consciousness is also
defined in terms of a change inthe subjective experience. One popular definition is
the one given by Tart in nineteenninety. He defines the altered state of
consciousness as one in which the individualfeels a qualitative shift in his pattern of

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mental functioning. There is a changein the qualities of mental processes. It
is not just defined as a quantitativeshift in terms of more or less alert,
more or less visual imagery, etcetera. Yeah, so, altered
state of consciousness. This is whatthey call schizophrenia. By the way,

(46:40):
in Japan, there's no more schizophrenia. They say that it's a develop it's
a developmental stage in creativity, similarto like a psychotic break maybe, or
just a different way of thinking forcreative types of people. But here,
altered date of consciousness is basically whatschizophrenia is. It's like an altered sense

(47:07):
of reality, an altered sense ofperception. If you're hearing stuff, if
you're having visions that others aren't having, then that is wrong. Whereas if
you are a yogi and you arehaving visions, then that's gifted. This

(47:30):
definition, I mean, because everybodydreams. I just like, okay,
I'm shut up after this. Buteverybody dreams, right, and you go
to sleep. You don't wake upand say, oh my god, you
hallucinate it. You're crazy. It'slike, no every We all have this
ability to have visions and subconscious imagesthat if you interpret it correctly, then
it's a gift. I would saythis, Okay, ten percent of everything

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in all of our experiences are arereally what matters. Only ten percent.
The rest of it is extraneous,like whatever, it's just stuff you do.
You wake up, you go tothe bathroom, you clean up,
and you do this, and youdo that, you drive. A lot
of that stuff is like, okay, they would cut that in movies.
Ten percent of it they would putin a movie. So ten percent of

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your life is like, okay,these are the memories that you hold onto
that clearly you know, define youmake you who you are, change your
perceptions and all this stuff, oryou program your beliefs and all that.
So the same thing with extrasensory perception. You could have visions, divine hearing,
in remote viewing. You may seestuff, and I would say only

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ten percent of it is really meaningful. A lot of it is like if
you focus on it. If youfocus on the wrong stuff, then yeah,
you're going to be like, wellthat's wrong. So then I'm just
gonna throw the whole thing away.If you're studying to be a psychic or
removie or you're gonna get stuff wrong. Sometimes sometimes there's going to be like

(48:57):
nonsense coming in and and you gotto just like just like in real life,
where you don't pay attention to thatand just like focus on stuff that
has that excitement or without you beingyou know, like chasing something that you
want to believe. It's human natureto believe what you want to believe.

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But then there's something else where youget If you get the excitement without the
attachment of like, I want tobelieve this, then that's that's what your
cue is. That's like, oh, there's a vision and you hold on
to that vision and you have faithin that vision and you believe in that
vision. So I hope that makessense. Okay, So this definition highlights

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that primary phenomenal consciousness, which isawareness of a changed pattern of subjective experience
and reflective consciousness in which a cognitivejudgment must be passed so as to recognize
that the experience is different from normal. Are both involved in the altered state
of consciousness. Yeah, you knowwhat's interesting though, there's something in the

(50:10):
middle, okay, where synchronicities occur. So, yeah, you know when
you're not dreaming. You know thatthis is like there's visions, and visions
happen in a way that's imaginative,and you know that it's nobody else sees
it, and you know that thisis something that you're experiencing sort of like
a dream, but you're awake.And then there's your day to day life

(50:36):
where you know it's verifiable and everybodycan agree to it. It's like empirical
evidence kind of stuff. But thenthere's something that's like a bridge in between
the two, which is where synchronositiesoccur. And these are the coincidences that
occur in this They will strike youas like it will and out like spotlight,

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and it's something that you should payattention to and you may not know
why, but later on there maybe another link and it will like it's
like in a movie, you knowhow like oh, there's just one piece
that happens and then it explains itlater on sort of thing. So,

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so, yeah, when they're talkingabout we're talking about different a shift in
consciousness. I just wanted to clarifythat that there's different states of consciousness where
with the vision and with just beinglike regular day to day life but then

(51:45):
something that happens when we're not tryingto change our altered state, but that
it connects because other people are participants, and it's not just like a straight
vision that you're having, but there'sverify verifiable events that are happening between the
physical world and your vision. Thatfeels like equincidence. Okay. This definition

(52:10):
highlights that primary phenomenal phenomenal consciousness,which is awareness of a change pattern of
subjective subjective meaning like that's just howI feel, that's my opinion, and
that kind of stuff, whereas youknow, outside objective where you can prove
it, okay. Altered states ofconsciousness or trans state have also been understood

(52:32):
as a deviation from the normal statesof consciousness. It has been understood as
a state in which the world orthe self tend to be misrepresented. This
is caused by an internal or externalchange in the organism's biological makeup, and
it alters the representational relations and henceis not a functional, original, or

(52:53):
permanent state of the organism's consciousness.I'm saying that word so much it's like
kind of tripping over it. Analtered state of consciousness is thus due to
a change in the representational state ofconsciousness and is not restricted to any specific

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cognitive, effective, or sensory modality, but is a combination of them,
and it is a temporary phenomenal phenomenon. According to this understanding of altered states
of consciousness or trans state, hypnosiscan be considered as one because it changes
the background mechanisms of consciousness as strongand multiple changes in consciousness experiences are experienced

(53:37):
as hypnotic suggestions. Yeah, sodefinitely this state is where a lot of
synchronicities start to bubble up and youstart to see them, which is super
cool because I want to talk aboutsaying nicities one day in one of these

(54:01):
podcasts after I meditate about like whatexactly it is, because right now I
don't know what it is. Soit's like I don't know how an airplane
flies, but I know that itflies, and I just you know,
I I and for me to evenstudy about the mechanics of flight and all
that stuff, it would be likesuper dry, boring and I may not
even ever understand it. And it'sthe same thing with synchronicities, like I

(54:24):
know that they exist and I knowI trust it that it works, but
I don't know if I could evenlike decipher the I don't know. It's
not technology, it's the mechanics ofit. Like, I don't know,
but it's interesting. I'm gonna ifI'm gonna meditate and study it more.

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If I come up with anything conclusiveor some interesting article, I'll read it
to Okay, So, although itis Anton Mesmer who is credited for the
origin of hypnosis, it is nottrue two thousand years before Mesmer. Okay,
you know the word mesmerization. Mesmerwas Anton Mesmer was like, he

(55:07):
was a healer. He heals alot of people. Actually, I think
it was Benjamin Franklin who was sentto observe him because they thought that he's
gonna be like the next Jesus Christ. And they were like, oh shit,
we got to stop this guy becausehe's getting too popular and famous.
So then Benjamin Franklin went there andhe's like, oh, well, it's

(55:28):
the power of suggestion, because ifyou believe he's going to heal you,
he heals you. But I didn'tbelieve he was going to do anything to
me, and he didn't. Andthen it was like, oh, Benjamin
Franklin is the smartest guy in theworld. Because he couldn't, you know,
heal him. It's like, yeah, but he healed everybody else,
Like why would you take that away? Like if they believe it, why

(55:49):
won't you just leave them so thatthey could be healed. I don't understand
why they went against him, butanyways, Okay, So two thousand years
before Mesmer, techniques of induction werebeing used by ancient Egyptian and Greek priests.
There is evidence of Egyptian priests performingdeath and rebirth rituals in what they
called temples of sleep. Drugs andpsychedelics were used to assist the process.

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Those who lived through the experience weresaid to have experienced other levels of reality
while being out of the physical body. Hypnosis is as old as time and
has been employed in all parts ofthe world in some form or the other.
James Braid used the term hypnosis,derived from the word hypnose, as
he thought that hypnosis was similar tosleep. He developed the eye fixation technique

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of inducing relaxation and called it hypnosis. Abi Ferrari Orari Abipharia, a Catholic
priest, was a pioneer in thescientific study of hypnosis. It was him
who stated that it was not animalmagnetism as they said it was with mesmer
and they really yeah, back thenit was considered witchcraft, animal man magnetism

(57:00):
that was involved in the cure,but suggestion later. You know what,
I think that there's a some people, Okay, you know how I said,
like, if I'm in this associativestate, it could induce it in
another I think it's the same thingwith mesmerization. If you are in this
state where you're like you're seeing themas being healed and they see themselves as

(57:25):
being healed. It's like a loopwhere it's like you're both sharing this consciousness
and it's being healed through suggestion butalso through what they would call animal magnetism.
And these people that are gifted withthat, it's a different type of

(57:46):
gift than being dissociative. I don'tknow if that's a gift even, But
if you're able to have that kindof charm where people just believe what you
say and you could say it,you'd be a great salesman, you could
be a great heal And that comeswith confidence, you know, it's confidence
is so important, and that's anotherthing you need to have when you're remote

(58:07):
viewing. You need to have thatkind of confidence because it may seem smart
to like double you know, like, well, i don't want to make
any assumptions, and I'm going tobe humble and I'm going to question everything
like that takes you so far.But then once you get into the practicing

(58:27):
this or any kind of practice youif you're a doctor or if you're a
hair stylist or whatever, you haveto have that confidence or else they're not
going to have a confidence, andthen everything's going to fall apart if you
if you neither one of you haveconfidence in each other. So in the
beginning, when you're just like whereI am right now, I know that

(58:49):
I come off as not having anyconfidence because I'm kind of like not trying
to lead you into anything. I'mat the point right now where I'm like
the first part of scientific inquiry islike be curious in an idiotic way where
you're like not be don't be afraidto make a mistake because you're just exploring.

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And so if you come at youif you start off with the first
level is like I know everything,it's like no, that, don't do
that. It's like walking into aforesay I know everything, I'm gonna eat
this mushroom walk down that path.No, you should walk in like,
wow, it's pretty I'm gonna bereally careful. I may be foolish and
be overly cautious and you know,kind of flinch a little bit, but
that's it's better to be like thatin level one and don't try to just

(59:37):
like act like you know everything inthe beginning, because it just that's even
more foolish. He defined. Okay, so we're talking about Braid. The
Catholic priest to find hypnotism as astate of focused attention upon a single idea
or mental image. In his view, since hypnosis was the state of focused

(59:57):
attention, it was fundamentally the oppositeof normal sleep. After he recognized his
error of believing that hypnosis was similarto sleep, he tried to change the
name to monodissimo, which means aconcentration on one side. The term hypnosis,
even though is a misnomer, stillpersists. In eighteen fifteen four,

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James Esdale, a Scottish surgeon,was working in India with the East India
Company. While here he performed hundredsof minor and major surgical procedures on Indians
under mesmeric anesthesia. His book describeshundreds of operations that he performed under his

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technique, including amputations of legs,removal of tumors. Holy cow. So
he had mesmerization down to an art, or down to a science where he
could mesmerize people to the point wherehe can amputate their legs. That's amazing.
He even noted the dwindling of surgicalshock and his patients in his book

(01:01:07):
Hypnosis in Medicine and Surgery in nineteenfifty seven. He describes that he or
his assistant would induce hypnosis or mesmerizationand the patients in the morning and would
leave them in a cataleptic state.He would then return later and operate.
When Esdale return to England and sharedhis experiences, he was unfortunately ridiculed and

(01:01:28):
ostracized by his colleagues. Sounds likethey a little jealous. Sounds like they
got jealous. And this happens alot where you get somebody who's just like
super gifted, savant and whatever theydo, and then everyone else is like,
oh, this is something new.Let's tear them down. And then
they kind of team up and theytear them down because if this person turns
out to be better and they're notable to replicate his talent. Then it's

(01:01:52):
like they just disgusting how some peoplejust want to be the best, even
if it's at the cost of,you know, great humanitarian contributions. Like
imagine if we had this ability,if he was able to carry on this
ability. Let's say others can't replicateit, but at least he would be
able to do it, and maybehe could train one other person to do

(01:02:15):
it. Maybe that one other personcould train somebody else, and who knows.
We can change medicine if you know, you wouldn't even need like people
could be healed, go to thedoctor and be imagine that being healed through
hypnosis and stuff, rather than youknow, be like Ben Franklin who comes
here, Well I didn't believe it, so and then like you just shit
it for everybody. All these peoplewere, you know, being healed and

(01:02:37):
then you got to like wreck itfor them. Well, to this day,
the scientists still recognize the placebl effectthat they so much so that they
put it in the experiments and theysay, all right, well, you
know the polace will effect work twentypercent of the time, but this drug
worked thirty percent of the time,therefore the drug works. If the placebel

(01:02:58):
effect works fifty percent of the timeand the drug only works forty percent of
the time, well then the drug'snot so good. But it's like,
hey, what about the placebo effect. Aren't you guys gonna like it's like
safe and natural? Why? Whycrap on it? The first scientific text
on hypnosis, suggestive Therapeutics, waspublished in eighteen eighty six by Bernheim.

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Bernheim observed the work of doctor Ambroy'sAugust Liebolt, a French physician. Libolt
became interested in hypnosis after reading Braid'swork, and in order to avoid being
discredited, he worked pro bono.Bernheim and Libelt then began to work together
treating patients. I got to bookmarkthat because I want to look that up.

(01:03:43):
These guys sounds very interesting. ErnstSimmel, a German psychoanalyst, began
using hypnosis for the treatment of warneurosis or shell shock. He called his
technique hypno analysis and hypno analysis,and hypnosis was combined with the psychodynamic techniques.
During World War II. Grinker andSpiegel used barbituous to induce a state

(01:04:06):
of drug hypnosis in order to bringtraumatic material to the surface. Hypnosis has
since been playing an important part inthe treatment of combat fatigue and other neuroses.
The most important development to come outof the World Wars was the merger
of hypnotic techniques with psychoanalysis. Thisdevelopment revived a great deal of interest in

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hypnosis and led to the publication ofvarious books with hypnosis and suggestibility as the
subject matter. Hypnosis has since beenrecognized as a treatment method by the American
Medical Association in nineteen fifty eight.There are now several journals devoted exclusively to
the experimental and clinical applications of hypnosis. Theories of hypnosis. The phenomena associated

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with hypnosis are explained through two maintypes of theories. These are referred to
as a state and non state theories. A key debate and hypnosis had been
between the state and non state theorists. According to the state theorists, hypnotic
inductions produce an altered state of consciousness. I went over an hour, didn't

(01:05:13):
I jeez, I'm gonna have tocut this short here, okay, and
I promise you I will. Iwill talk about grounding techniques in at the
end of how many episodes it's goingto take. Jeez, I'm only it

(01:05:35):
looks like I'm about maybe like aneighth of the way through this abstract.
This is turning out to be alot more deep than I thought. So
how about this, guys. Inthe next episode, I'm gonna make sure

(01:05:56):
that I get into grounding and someof the things that you could do for
yoga to maybe help you loocid dreamor practice remote viewing with like lost objects,
and then we'll just see how itgoes from there. I don't know

(01:06:21):
how interested people are in remote viewing, or I know that a lot of
people don't believe in it or anything. So what I usually do in these
podcasts is I just read other typesof materials besides parapsychology, because it's something
that I stay away from because Idon't like to get in arguments because you
have to begin with the premise thatthere is non material reality, and a

(01:06:46):
lot of people are reluctant too,So I just I don't even like to
bother talking about that too much.But here I am doing it anyways.
And if I'm so great, where'smy cat? Right? Hey? I
know where my cat is. I'mtrying to get out of hiding, but
I know where he is. Ijust I need to get him out of

(01:07:08):
he's he's in this person's You know, I can't go knock on the door
and say hey, my cat.I already did that. And and I'm
becoming like I don't want to botherpeople too much because these people they have
these huge yards and there's under likecrawl spaces and decks, and and then

(01:07:31):
there's it leads to it the trail, and behind the trail it's like there's
just like pine trees and ivy andthen they're they put up these fences and
oh jeez, man. So I'mtrying to lure him out of there into
a public area where I'm not crawlingaround in their backyard so much. And

(01:07:55):
you know, you ask a person, want to say, oh, can
I look at your backyard? Andpeople are like yeah, sure, but
then you go there again, yougo there. No, no, no,
don't do that. I can't dothat. I can't explain that I
know my cat's in this vicinity withinthese couple of houses. And these houses
are very big, I mean probablylike I don't know, maybe a quarter
of an acre each house and theirproperty, which is big for a cat.

(01:08:17):
The cats can literally just like survivein a hundred feet you know area.
So okay, yeah, but ifI'm so great, I got to
get my cat to me right.Put your money where your mouth is sort
of thing. Well, we'll seehow that goes, you know, just
because you're not perfect. Psychics arenot omniscient. Psychics aren't like you know,

(01:08:40):
It's like Dean Rayden used to say, it's like baseball. You don't
hit a home run all the time, but if you're batting, if you're
batting over a three hundred, you'redoing pretty good. You know. A
psychic if you can, if youcan, you know, be right times
out of ten, then you're doingpretty good. Like I said, I

(01:09:03):
think ten percent of it in reallife is like ten percent is the meat.
The rest of it is just allextraneous stuff. Same thing with psychic
ability. When you start getting visionsand hearing all this stuff, ten percent
of it is and then a lotof it is just like you know,
trying to be a good scientist who'sjust a good observer without putting your interpretations

(01:09:26):
and hopes and dreams and wishes init. All right, thank you so
much for being here with me today. This is slayer in a Gatta Davida.
It just reminds me in the Bogof Agida. So this is what
you know. I'm getting a lotof this inspiration from reading the Bog of
Agida. I hope you guys havea wonderful rest of your day or week.

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I'm probably gonna I'm gonna try tobe back tomorrow to get this episode
two happening. So thank you somuch.