Mick Conlan - The Return of the Podcast

The lads are back with a brand-new Podcast with Mick Conlan. Mick is back to talk to the lads about his upcoming fight and the controversy surrounding the Benn vs Eubank fight.

Episode Transcript

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Who oh my goodness, Hello folks, and welcome back to the brawl Boxing
Podcast and Karen McCourt and I'm joinedby co host Colin mcgwigan and Ram McLaughlin.

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Feels good boys, it is,it's what I'm emotional. It was
four months, but a phase likefour years and that's just a four d
FC macins fucking on the accent.That's where have we been? Let the
listeners know. Um, so wehad a muscle forward whatever I was getting

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on, like Sea and Malik,Randy Big first boots. Um No,
well, the reason, well,the reason we actually just took up.
We took a month. We werealways planning on taking them up or two
breaks. I'm doing it seasons.And then it's weird. I feel like
I'm explaining that the you two feellike a man's playing in or fucking hide
is the two. And then weobviously it went on for a bit too

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long and then call him fucked offat ifl um cactually cool like the calum
now, I mean he's left usso like the little budget podcast from Belfast
and he's went to the big dogsand forgot about it. So we had
all these guests lined up we're bringingthem on, and then Cook would literally
be like, so I met himdoing them for ifl the night and then
would be set back another week.So I'm sorry, you got Johnny Nelson

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here at two o'clock actually just startedstealing the brawl boxing guests. So whenever
I got the job, we justgot the ball boxing guest. Let's someone
through them all and just said that'sit. And then they're all saying,
we works the podcast. The firstthing wherever we're going, and I'm like,
no podcasts, podcast is more longerwas the three horses, and I've
lost two horses let alone. We'reclearly use it as a bit of fucking

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napotism and that he'll work as wondersas he always has um and we're hoping,
well, now we will be back. Probably I'm listening thinks we're completely
on rondol. This is awesome.I back, so we'll have it on
later today. Who you already know, but probably being the title, but
to what it's actually mad house swungbecause now I'm the one with a m

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of no job. Cool. Hereis the actor there, Mamandez and were
spell fast just for a spell sorry, just just to the spell any rumors
because there'll be a lot of listenersLondon. Ran is not actually joining Cliffinville.
He's joining some James Swift. Peoplehaven't realized that it's actually true since

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right way, So just to getthe rumors out of the bed early on
Ran centers and games Swift, Ithink I can't wait to get stumped.
We suppose Yeah, I just wantto say this, right, it's not
true. I'm not saying for someJames Swift, not saying actually retire from
football and becoming a male models somethingfor a while, so you're not always

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in the model Yeah, but whatwas I was doing it for free?
No, I'm sort of like haveto start charging for these. You know,
there's actually I'm not going to namethe guy who don't actually don't know
his name, but there's a guyon Twitter who literally just hates Rands.
Got Thiry dam Rand post something likegiving back him or he posts something this
guy gets that. I don't knowwhat I was saying is, but I

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think we need to set up abrawl boxing prank on this guy. I
don't even know him, but weneed to do something and get him and
Ran in the same room together inHardcot. Yeah, I don't tell you
what if he's if he's Pep formac lad, I don't want to smoke.
He's just named him. He's namedhim. I know you're all about

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you know what. I haven't evenspoke to you about this. You just
brought this up randomly, so youmust have seen it on Twitter. But
I've seen it again last night afterit's been this been carnage. You know,
I've been public animy number one fordown the lower end of the falls.
Neither have I am obviously associated withthe upper end of the falls night
whatever Raivel are you going on?But since James is having a back,
so it's all good. But Igenuinely do think it looked like they have

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a back. When people say,oh, he's only jumping, it's not
true. I do think you do. I think that's appreciate it. I
mean that goes back yourself. No, but it's obviously Ryan's moved into the
finance market and I he's just beenbanked hafs Olver but fastly eye, Yes,
we plugged for pitch the property there. I'm on the board of directors.

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It pits the property. It's anabsolute unbelievable start a business from Ryan
and Connor mcglowin. So give ita check out. And if you're an
athlete or not even just athlete trying, is it anyone? As long as
you've got a couple of mills inthe bank, we'll sort. It's for
everyone. It's for everyone. It'suh we source horses for you to be
able to invest your money. Butyeah, that's it. The not gonna

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go too much into it, butyeah, come see me, Come see
l mcclockmin, come see uh colmcwiggins are you obviously well as well.
I just want to put it outthere in a serious note because I have
had a few messages about this aswell. If you've been following around on
Instagram and you've been seeing like thecheesy, sort of motivating cool teep it
of the story, he's not beingfreeped, so that actually has him free

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and he's our brothers, so wesupport him all the way. I haven't
posted one. I've only selfies mein the gym to be To be fair,
lads, we've got serious competition inthis podcast game now, so we
need a bar brawl boxing game.They've got the likes of Sam Jones bringing
out his own podcast now, Joshwhen that braw still an urn game,

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yeah, used was used in jazz. We do not like that. But
now they've got they've got a goodpodcast, and obviously we need to keep
our numbers up there, so you'llsee us back every week going forward.
And I think our next guests maybe waiting, so maybe it's a good
chance just to bring him straight uphere and bring him straight in. So
yeah, well guys, we're backingthe game and we're delighted to have on

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this next guest. He actually wasone of the first ones of a Hot
Home when where he started the podcast, So please welcome Michael Common Matie.
Thanks, ah, good, good, thanks. He's a sure holder and
broad box and remember yes that's rightyet, just finished training and uh eating
and it's clean protein bar? Whatwhat paper? What paper? Protein bars?

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Up? Rapper? What chap?Black jack? Protein flack? Black
jack, flap jack, black jack? Pop check? This is what I've
got, no job right now?Padbury's many rud He's still very I guess

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there's they're clean. They are clean? Is clean sporting on me? And
then are we call the clean sport? I'm up, I'm up for the
for the jumping Boys. So obviously, um, as we say, its
first podcast back, the reason forPM. We've been planning to start back
for a few weeks time. We'vegot a bit side track. Well,

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massive news has come out in theboxing world, um today that Connor Ban
has failed a drug test for USfight with Chrishuvan Junior this weekend. So
without having Nick on mix, alwayshonest as you've seen if you've been watching
him from the Olympics or four hourssince. Um, he's always very honestly,
doesn't Mens's words, So lat isa two break. He's also very

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van isn't. He's right? Iwant there to be all right of you
going like this? Yeah, yeah, sure that it's rotten from the core,
all the very top COREA tap fromthe core rate that I tapped.

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I don't give a fuck from carsonalon Zoo, but tell me, yes,
right quite powerful? Are you withwhat you take? Possibly everything?
Check everything, as you're not goingto get done for a fucking track.
Protein bar I don't go and checkthem, I know, but I know
it's nothing in them. Um,they're not really fucking protein them, they're
just not um well, vitamins,vitamin C. Fucking multi vitamins. Everything.

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I make sure I have kind ofthe backlog of where they came from,
what production lines they've been on,are they clean words, everything done?
I've been I've been very well schooledin it. As as an Olympic
boxer, I was tested five timesin one week. Um. I get

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tested an awful and awful lot.So like I understand the kind of measures
and stuff you have to check.It's much more stretched down met your boxing
professional boxing. If mona is quitea joke when it comes to dublin.
Um, and there's so many lipooles. Yeah, I see. Well,
I've seen you say that earlier,and I'm actually seeing quite a few boxers

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like at the sort of top levellike yourself. I say this that they
believe that, Like I've seen somestarts thrown out today. Obviously I don't
know if this is true or false, but they think upwards of maybe sixty
seventy eight of world champions and toplevel boxers are open. Like do you
think do you think I could bethe case? Yep, I do free

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the massive backwards step and that whenyou think about it, like everyone's buzzing
about all big fights being made,you know, like very rarely it happens,
you know, something that this magnitudeand then boom, it just takes
a massive, massive step back andit's like where do you go from here?
Again? Boxing it When anything ofher crazy happens in boxing, you

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say it's boxing, because that's it. I mean, it's the White way
of support. Anything can happen,and anything does happen an awful lot.
So yeah, it's it's scurry,and especially as a favor up of a
family, it's something that I'll alwaysshow from the rooftops about when when these
situations come up with when someone elseis called a scream from the rooftops.

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Should be bond for Lafe. Thereshould be Lefe tain bonds for people who
who feel dope tests um. Youknow, there's loads of things people take,
and there's fucking masking agents people take. But in my opinion, as
fucking Nada says, MMA, theseare all fucking tigging drugs, drawn steroids,
doings simply like that. I thinkit's the same on box and I

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think the majority of you know,the top top faders um are dopen um.
If not fantastic, they're unbelievable bagrespect. But I think a lot
of people in the sport roopen surit's like life and death. Like one
thing I've always seen worried about isthe dangerous about and then no teams they
could writ or there and you shouldalways have to have your eggit plans,

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but sometimes they're hindered by what goeson in the sport like this, Like
someone plan get a few more facegone, happens it fing, someone gets
a brain injury because they're facing someonewho's dopen. I mean, I think
the only can away that this willprobably come to a stopping people will stopped
in it is when someone dies andthe person who dies the person they have

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faced has field it open test.That's the only can away. Well,
there can be more that scenario likethe person you should be fucking charged and
it should become a criminal matter.Do you want me get no longer sport
exactly? And I think they shouldbe charged any boxers open, I still
think they should be charged criminally.No, in general, no, even

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if they haven't killed someone, becauseit's attempted murder basically, you know what
I mean, you're gonna her ina sport where life and ye, life
and death happens a lot and yeahthat's my ring tone. UM. But
yeah, like it's a sport wherea lot of a lot of deaths have

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happened, um in the ring.And how horrible would it be? Um?
Someone one of the emms was nodue to someone who was open um
or probably has happened someone who's whohas been doping, but we don't know
and there's never been any proof ofit yet. But you know, nothing
is done with someone that is normallyin boxing because of sport. And that's

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that's fair. But if you're openedand intentionally opened, um, you can
say now, but most of thepeople are attentionally though, um. And
he kills someone, should you killtime? Only pretend this master? What
do you think about the whole?Uh? If the boxing border Controller or
don't sanction it, they'll go toLuxembourg and do it with them. Yeah,

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the same kind of thing with youhave a Hay and Derek Sua when
they had the kind of fade atthe press office. Boxing Body Control wouldn't
sanction the Faith so Paris boxing boardercontrol thanks to Faith, so they still
don't the fight in England. Um, but they brought in the Luxembourg board
and they don't not still and wentahead, So um, what they think

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of that? I think, youknow, that's just another loophold for people
who go through and people really wantto turn their eyes to it, which,
let's be honest, not really manypeople can a book. You know,
they'll really have a bit and alittle shade about it, but no
one really curs. That's gotta bestraight, like no one does car.
People just want to see the faith, So there's very few. I think

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a lot of faders will and Ithink I think it's funny when you see
the faders who don't speak up umall right, albeit people who are fairly
friends or connected and promotional kind ofthings and can't say things or don't say
things for them reasons, but oneof people not as shit and then they're
not speaking up porn that you're goingm h m hm or the fucking thing,

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don't you like start the question?And I think terrible. And the
reason I would never do is itwas this. They can look at myself
in the mirror when I'm old andsay, listen, if he did this,
if he did, i'd be cheapwhat you want to If he didn't
it done the right way? Itdon't I always think that as well,
Like, it's not just about it'snot just about the chance of getting caught

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and like your knee and being draggedthrough the mode, because at the end
of the day, it's the worstthing of boxing you can be, you
know what I mean, it's likethe lowest of the low. And but
it's not it's not just about that, Like it's it's about looking at yourself,
as you say, and being likeI say, you're in a world
title right and you know you've beendopen can you honestly for and you're getting
all this praise and everyone you meetthe sacond you're so fucking going, You're
so tough, so durable, you'reyou know, the world champion, Like

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there must be a part of youinside. It's like, um, and
I don't like you what I mean, Yeah, I'll never know the freedom
because I've never done I never willdo it. But I have that same
thought as you. Um, everybodyhas a constant um, no matter if
they said they don't, but theydo, unless a psychopath or something like

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you're um like something like that.But like um, like everybody has a
conscience and they will always come backthere and like, deep down they're never
truly going to be happy. Butat the same time, I suppose then
people could look at them so fuckI have all this money now. Yeah,
Okay, maybe you said something thereabout promotional ties and teammates and things

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I got, But I remember wheneverthe Oscar bald I was thinking about,
you were one of the first totweets, and obviously Oscar was as a
good friend of yours was a formerteammate. Do you think these people should
come out and speak because it's soimportant? Do you use a fighter that
your family know you're coming home tosee if after everything? Yeah, I
think if they're not tain't the badmoney, or if they're not kind of

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worried about you know what, canI want to come for me next issue.
But a lot of people will betoo worried and too afraid to do
it. Um thinking they're going tokind of stopped from what I'm doing.
But you're right, I did.I spoke out an Oscar m when Oscar
field is, and I generally believethat Oscar's was extendal, But I still
spoke rong, and I still saysthey don't think hitch go ahead. Now,

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I haven't spoke to Oscar since soI don't know if he's he's happy
with what I said, But Ijust have the call of spear of the
spear. This is a sport whichI'm involved in, and a face are
still able to go ahead with peoplewho are open um and being called publicly.
There is obviously people being caught behindthe scenes and it being brushed into
the carpet. UM. So thatstuff is kind of happening, and you're

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in a favor what happens that andsomething happens which it is fatal. Who
the fuck as you're back? Youknow what I mean? So, UM,
in establish way, I speak offfor myself, UM, I don't.
I don't give a fuck about anybodyelse. And I've always been that
way. I always speak with menand see how it is. And that's
why I speak up and say whatI have to say, because I just

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feel that from my own city,from my family and everything, that I
need to speak up. I fearit's something that I'm afraid of. Um,
I hear it. I thought ofit in the Dangers of boxing,
UM and reasons like this, MKIthis lake boxing. UM boxing has a
funny way of slapping itself and thefist all the time, and if this

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fake goes ahead, I believe that'sboxing doing that. Well a few weeks.
It's sorry, it's been a fewweeks obviously since this result came in,
but we're only hearing about it now. So one, do you think
that's being brushed onto the carpet andthe hope that it would never be released?
We've we've seen so much going onnow back and forth today that there's
a possibility in the fake will stillgo ahead. Do you think it will

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go ahead? I think it goesI think it goes there. Unfortunately,
and I have my team bit HardyBanks on the card and Shannon and court
News in the gym, she's onthe card, and no ornately for Emmons,
I'm certains, and I don't thinkit should go ahead, and that
means they don't get opportunity, whichis a bit probably bit They're probably gonna

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be going for a bit of adeckhead. But I'm not doing it for
that reason. I'm doing it fora reason furness Um, I'm kind of
your room, seefty. So ifit doesn't go ahead, I'd be delayed
just for a simple fact that nojustice is kind of being fish free,
but I do think it goes aheadat the Carver goes ahead. I was

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gonna say it, don't curb,but I actually do curve because I think
it's wrong. Um pray I havesays I'm doing. I don't care who
wins it. Don't curve itay.Really I think it's it's interesting and intriguing.
There's a lot of money involved init, then no much rooms on
a fantastic job with the whole kindof build up and stuff. I was
excited for it, um, butthis is kind of put of a very

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muddy look on it for me,and I don't really want to see it
now. I think in general,even if you look at like Twitter,
social media in general, you'll seelike, I feel like the bulls has
died a little bit for it.I feel like a lot of people don't
want to see it happen. Alot of people actually say it shouldn't go
ahead, because when you see likethe abuse addies getting nigh from basically saying

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oh, they're gonna try and everythingand should go ahead, blah blah blah,
he's getting absolutely hammered for left rightand sound down and see one person
says you go ahead except for Mutroombut the play Devil's Advocate. I still
think it would almost it would bebig or not like if they go ahead,
I think it would do it.Yeah, that's all those big numbers.
Um. Still those really well.I don't think people are going to
turn their TVs off because of it. I don't think people are not going

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to bad because of it. Morepeople like he just said like and just
said, I think more people willbad. Um. I'm being more interested
at it. Um. I thinkthe odds and bad mit swing interests me
always so UM. No, Idon't know. I don't know what UM
do I agree with it going ahead? No? Um, I think people

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really want to be turned off.No, because at the end of the
day, people will on Twitter haveopinions and they showed then they cling but
their opinions bean fuck call. Theyactually mean nothing. No my own includers,
no one, none of these meananything. Um obviously were in My
support has pretty a little bit morepoll and when I when I said something

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and then a fridge Joe, butum still means fuck call. Yeah,
it's it's weird, um twitters twitters. I wouldn't go off with me and
staid on Twitter because other people don'teven have twar. But like, if
the schools ahead, sorry if theysties go ahead, what does that do
you do the next person who youopen and what what does that tell them

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about what they're going to do goingforward? Just just dope because you're going
to get the played anyways. Luxembourgjust gonna come and save it? Is
that for her to say that,well, well, if you look at
the all the previous people who havefailed to best, they're still fading.
So so what's what's the reason tostop Oscar for the same for good week

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or name squad or doo each other. He's fought, um got a six
month farm, but he's back fate. I even spoke a bit no more
uh cury and wait guys, allthe vote caught open and you know it's
sad. I think this, thisdoesn't stop anything, the thin I says.

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I think it takes someone to dieand and the person who is in
the albums the corner feel a dopetest and and then I think precautions will
be starting to take even more sothem. But will eradicate it? No,
Um, it's a bit like judging. You know, these things don't
just go away. I think they'llthey'll do and the law for a little

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bit and then come back and that'sthe way it goes. And I think
the sordest part about this one islike, because I like, as you
say, you won't won't be stoppedand tell either someone dies or yeah,
I wouldn't stop me watching it onSaturday. I think I think like fighters
have a have a I think alot of fans number one, like you,

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primarily don't want to go ahead.However, if it's on, you'll
watch it. I get that,whereas I think most fighters, but like
yourself, would rather not go ahead. And understand my fans almost don't themselves
in the in the possession of afighter where they might have to face because
you're thinking, fuck, well,one day I could get him nervous,
someone who's on foot of his headon testosterone or whatever. But like the

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four, like the four key playersinvolved in this fight, the two sons
and the two dads, and likeall three apart from Connor Banna would been
involved in near fatal fights basically blackBell watching and Jordan, which makes it
even more seconding in a wage youwhat I mean that if Connor did you
know, we don't know until forsure, until the second sample comes back,
but like if he did drouge too, that makes it even more hinious

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like in a wage or what Imean. Yeah, the history in terms
of the faders all included the fourpeople just mentioned the two fathers and two
sons and um bar Connor. You'reright they only the other three have been
evolved in fights which just changed theopponent's laves. Um I was very scary

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there for very prominent ones who arethree very prominent fighters who have been involved
named things um in British boxing.So the fact that you know it's it's
this kind of fighting, this thiskind of been done it go you go
fuck me if he's done that,If he's done that, he's fucking he's

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crazy, crazy because he never evenlike you don't want to be the person
who because done someone. You seehow Nigel Ben and uh and Chris Tibank
Senior they how that has affected demonsand how they are. You see Aigel
Ben around, Michel Watson was right, Christie mcgram Michel Watson and how he

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is and how like he cries andstuff. A guy I've obviously a facts
him known that he's done that someoneNigel Ben think was the same with German
arm Clendon. So um, it'sscurry off, it's scurry. This is
a fucking dangerous game and there isno room for this ship. And that's
what that's that's the be on end. There is no room for this.

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It's dangerous enough already without it.I feel when it happens, there's like
a big uproar, but then it'llsort of just go away naturally, do
like the noise will die down.And I think that's when when something like
this happens. I'd say the peoplethat have actually been charged there been found
guilty of it sort of probably usethat sort of stand to be like,

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do you know what a lot blewover in a few months? Because it
does, which means bactually will stilltread no matter what, because the risk
is worth the reward. And Ithink you just have to There's has to
be a point where, just likeyou said, does it have to take
someone to die from basically someone usingPDS for them to die, like for
them to die and result of that, in my opinion, that's the only
thing that changes how everything goes.That's scurry. If you were in fact

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if you were someone that could influencethis in a way that going forward there
would be a bound would you justblind upon everyone? That's is not the
only way to kind of yeah,yea, so hi, I think this
liftem bounds fifteen bounce. Now youcan appeal it and and depending on what
is in your system and order.I think I'm not to be judged.
I don't know enough about it.I'm not kind of clude enough about it.

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I think Victor Counte in America,he's very credible bit of all that.
Um he runs that snack. Butno, Victor was a former UH
doctor who was just dopen fader oropen dopen athletes um and was caught wasn't
in the in the bull cookin ofwhatever it's called. Um. So yeah,

(25:45):
I think you know someone in thatkind of stance kind of department.
Can you know judge what like yourmom conte, I think he knows what
is for boxing and what helps youperform better and all this here, and
you know he knows in the nightsof the doping world or someone like him,
because should share something or no.If you feel in your bound relief

(26:07):
and you can appeal it, youcan be the ones day listen for that
reasons for that reason you can't oryou can't. Oh yeah yeah, final
question on that because I want toquickly touch as well on on you and
your next moves. But final questions. I was thinking about this earlier when
it when it comes to topen,you have obviously been a professional boxer for

(26:27):
years now, You've been in professionalset up around the coaches. Would it
be possible, like like, wouldwould the coaches? Would your team know
you're doing it? Would there bea way you could be doing it without
them? No? One? Oryeah? I would say so, I
don't know. I don't be honest, I don't really know. But I
would say a lot of people's coachesare involved. Yeah, that's what I
was thinking. I was like,you know it must go as the quote

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yourself, it's from the court ofthe top. Do you what I mean?
I would say a lot of people. I said, a lot of
people know, Um did I havea small circle around them who would trust?
Not the same no listeners ways theyget the coaches probably know nothing,
deppaying how much the coaches involved,Um yeah not not in this situation that

(27:11):
the coaches know where And I thinkthat just to get back straight. Um.
But I'm just saying I think alot of coaches whose faders do it
would probably know or would have anEngland at least. Um. Yeah,
I think Connor benn Is doped hiswhole career. No, I don't think
so. I think he's probably lookingat this going if if he has purposely

(27:37):
don't And now I don't know ifhe has, so I'm not saying he
has. He hasn't, um,just to clarify, but if he has
purposely dont he's looking at you don'tgo and foot me. It's a big
challenge. I'm coming up basically inflatingthe little with here. Um, I
need everyone that I can get andthat's what he's done. But um,
I'm not gonna say sit here andsays so queer, But that's what this

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does for sure. It's tarnished hiswhole career. Mag Well, we'll move
on the what's next for you?Obviously you've got a massive fight coming up
on PA for December, will bean probably this week, maybe next week.
How much are you looking forward togetting back in the ring and frontle
that Belphast card again? Yeah?Um, tilt is humil to be back
out the little bit before the endof the year. Um. You know
last year I was kind of hinderedwithout getting out. You know, I

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thought in August or drinking fate lastMarch, yeah you thought, yeah,
yeah, oh sorry not last yearwas covid No, no, so I
did not so I thought, Ithought last year and then it has made
a faith in the winter, butit didn't happen. So um yeah,
I'm just happy to be back out. I needed to get back with I

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did, actually I thought, andyah yeah, um, so get out
in the winter. You know,kind of hindered me actually for the for
the works because it didn't stay activelycould always do. Um. So the
fact that I'm staying active and I'llbe back out here, I'd a good
fake tough opponent. Um back andbe out fast. No, it's gonna

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be a great night, um asalways. Yeah. What was the I
missed? I missed the last one, which was fucking got about what was
it always happening? Fair like walkingabout in sec know what I always was
like. Bit couldn't be the feelercom bit that come bit the park,
but it be there because the atmospherewas just different. Um, it was

(29:29):
like the feeling and then you puta roof on that you're going to balk
me. Wow as well, LikeI gotta give myself credit here and a
partner back because my walkers are thebest walker you could ever getting boxing that
soon was a when I was likeyour bags, when I was carrying your
bags and all that. When Iwas walking here, all the ones come
up, you go, and Ihave a bag carrier, right, so

(29:52):
you're right guy, it changes upmy walk. It's come out there a
bit of a dance tune. Thecourt went absolutely mental, had to.
I had a top apponent in frontof me him to get more aga,
which I don't think I'll get thecredit for with how easily I made a
faith look um, and how muchof a box I can put him on
where he couldn't do nothing at all. Um, just technically I was just

(30:14):
too good, and I think Ireally made him look bad. And I'm
poor, and you know, peoplewould probably say, you know how he's
kind of wish would look at hislast few faiths. He's getting worse and
he's give people tough faith. Soum, yeah, I think it was
a good win. Um, Agood one to get back on the horse
and get back in the contention forword titles. Did you have se see

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before because we haven't spoke this sensethat fight. Um, obviously, coming
off the back of the word fight, did you have like was there a
you know it didn't It certainly didn'tlook like. But some some fighters have
that niggle in the back of theirminds because you're obviously always ultra confident you
were in the amateurs, you werein the prose. Did it change a
mental they at all? Or no? He was winking to meet during the
faith. I think yeah, Ithink yeah. Listen, it's it makes

(31:02):
you think more. Um, itmakes you question yourself. You know,
when you come off a loss,my first loss of professional the first time
ever my life been knocked out.Um, you start the questioners off and
I knew, even though I knowreasons for things happening and how things played
out, I understand why. Butstill you question yourself. And it's until

(31:22):
you get in there and you doit and how it depends how you don't
know. People can go and downscore through things. But I went in
there and showed it and I tooksome clean chats throughout that fight. Um.
Jimmy has actually watched the last nightand a few pictures. There a
few cyps of videos going you actuallyget her cling here, so don't worry
about anning. I was like,no, I don't worry about alinghi,
you know, reassuring me. Um, yeah, listen. I was never

(31:45):
a very very heavy puncher. Um. I hit a few teams in there
and I was like, lock down. Then this guy hit me again.
Um yeah it was good. Umbut yeah, yeah, yeah, I
always have they indict it. Ifanybody says they don't do it. I
don't have a little bits of selfdoubt their line. There was a point
in the twelfth round where you justtreated with Maria start trony. When you

(32:07):
treated with Mariaga, that was absolutelymadness to me. But was that to
you just to get rid of thosedemons that you had from the previously finning?
Enough, he hit me a shoton the tamble um like in the
first fifteenth something of the time Throne, and I went, WHOA, what
the fuck? Us concompunt slave fuckslike can I tried to grab one a

(32:29):
little bit and then I can ofmoved and the end of went fuck this,
let's cool. I just put myhead down like sat low and just
started trading and end up coming offthe batter and taking away to the time
throne. It looked like he startedreally well and I ended up winning their
own. So um, yeah,I think that those were a little,
subconstantly little demons which I battled throughand got and got out of the way.

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I don't think that was ever thatmuch of a doubt about your chain
that I never heard, because obviouslythe word fade, it wasn't. It
wasn't like an arm fatigue was That'sall it was. Well, that's what
I mean. It's not it's notlike it's it was ever I do eLearning.
It's it's it's like questions you'll askyourself, you know what I mean,
because like even though as they knowall the facts, I know the
reasons and I understand the reasons,still question. I mean everybody has that.

(33:15):
You have to question everything. Andone thing I do is I like
to know everything and understand everything.And the fact that that happened, I
still questioned. Itn't know why thathappened. No, it could not move
this year, but it did.So I personally, I personally don't think
it was just the take in termsof before that fight, what you were
coughing up. I've never seen anyman cough up in my life, and

(33:37):
like it was not an excuse,that's all that was said. But like
that, that definitely has an effecton someone. And obviously whenever you're getting
into eld, that has to havean effect on your body. So it
can't touch me down that the takeup. Oh well, listen only to
worry, but only out or nowwe move on. Um, you get
this next fat of the way.I wouldn't put it on a dumb performance.

(34:00):
Beat this guy, and then wemove on to whatever next. Hopefully
we're taking fed on St. Patrick'sDay. Could that be in New Orbs,
could be in New York, couldbe in Belfa. Love it here
by the way for your ring walkfor your next fight. If you got
any ideas yet or are you goingto keep the up et temple music?
I used to think I think Iwill. I think I will because I

(34:20):
think it's a change, but alsolike I love it. I love I
love the old stuff as well,like normally when I come with the bitter
soul music and stuff as well.I was unbelievable. That's hard to beat
that one, Like nine were veryhard to beat. Well, I went
off. There's been a there's beena point. Sorry just for the listeners,

(34:45):
there's been a point to this.It's been for obvious reasons. Megael
Commons and Malan in the corner that, um, well we'll move on common
box and have three move on,three massive massive faces the smoke. I
can't even think probably three massive faiths. Potty McCrory in a world title fight
in Journey, thank you in Vegas, smiling on his face. I'm Carl

(35:14):
and Kurt obviously only on their part. Um, what do you make of
that? Are you going to bethere? I won't be there, No,
unfortunately not. Um. I've gotto go home and make my own
kids. Uh. Joan was awayfor the week, so I've got to
go back. Um, and I'llnot be able to make it. But
you know, Kurt's looking fantastic inthe gym here cares looking burn it up
Boro and you know the sender AlamanPotty McCrory, Wow, who you ever

(35:38):
thought he would be here? That'spart of this stage of his life,
you know what I mean? Iremember when he turnproo, people saying why
the fuck is Potty turn pro?People really questioned why he just wanted to
do it, and I've seen someoneright underneath. There's last post that guy
was picked up from working on workingon twoesay or something. To have your

(35:58):
faith and Potti your ply just bein genuine and being Polly. The actual
fact I was working on Tuesday becausehe he was talking with Deponento. I
was working on Tuesdays and I'm here, I'm fighting. So he's he's assaulted
the earth Kadic guy Um and columnboxing. We're delayed to get him the
opportunity to five the ivie O WorldTail. No, I never, I'll

(36:21):
be honest. I didn't think Podywould be in this position when he started
boxing, but that'll be straight.I didn't. But know with our work,
dedication, punch poar the big purpose. You know he's on the bird
here, So no, I thinkI think he can do it. Um.
This is a fight where he canwin, even though he's going the
opponent's back garden. You can neverunderestimate Paul McClory. Yeah, I mean

(36:45):
he's defeated, he's defited the odds, his whole preity. He just lets
some stop about the man. He'sjust folding people like yeah, and he'll
have no weight problems this one.He's been struggling to make the way those
super super middle weight limit last year. I haven't seen the gym when I
ain't going, I don't know howthe schools. So I don't know how
the schools because these guys fatting theirbig punchers. But body looks he's had

(37:08):
to do like to like make usgo back and lose more weight to make
the weight and he's done it everytime for honest him. But there's only
so longer body can do that.Unfortunately, this fit is it lead heavy
with So what's the next? Weitup and I think you're going to see
any more explus supporting mcqure and I'mexpecting. I'm expecting that's unbelievable. See

(37:31):
if he does do it as well, like it is a proper f detail
stuff like they'll be to see ThomasKen and Reforman doing a documentary on them.
They'll do a documentary on the welllike Mack, thanks so much for
your time. I've just induced amake a common life playing bounce and ball

(37:52):
boxing after the advanced Yeah, andthere's bock. It was an absolute pleasure.
Again, we couldn't we couldn't havetaken any other guests to start us
back, and we've been our senseto start and we obviously always always appreciate
your time and honestly, I justhave to keep going there because it just
disappeared. And usually when you starteddisappear starts to doing the way. I

(38:14):
think it's because you know, bigtable when the Corners has two jobs,
this is literally jobs, honestly,and you're gonna have serious words calive Aton
around the world video people see him, but see we guys. That is

(38:38):
it for our episode with Michael Connan. We're sorry it got a bit it
might have got a bit fuzzy nearthe end or in terms of there's probably
a lot of editor stuff. Umthat was on a model. If you're
if you're wondering why it's it's jumpingback and forth in the last five minutes,

(38:58):
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