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In this episode of Breaking Bond,we'll be talking about the spy who Nope,
that's awesome, all right? Wasthis the one where this was the
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one with with uh with h JamesBond, Baby Doll and Aristotle? All
right, I don't remember, Yeahit is. We haven't talked about that
and yeah, dude, bro,look we watched it on September fifth.
It's been a while. Yeah,two weeks ago. Yeah, good grief.
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In this episode of Breaking Bond,we'll be talking about For your Eyes
Only in nineteen eighty one, starringRoger Moore as James Bond, Carol Bouquet
as Molina Havelock, To Paul asMilo's Colombo, Lynn Holly Johnson as Baby
Doll, Julian Glover as Aristotle Christadosdirected by John Glenn. But first,
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and it's a fun things good itis. Uh so, um, y'all,
we're sorry we ain't been putting outepisodes and because we got tired of
James Bond for a minute, thankyou for listening. Um, hopefully we
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have not driven you away by ourinconsistency. Yeah, well, okay,
it's not just that we're tired ofJames Bond. I mean a lot of
it is that we are tired ofnot liking James Bond. Yeah, that's
more. That's more of the thing. Yeah. And also, like you
know, I do DC on screens, So we had like fandom and then
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we had a bunch of crap withRay Fisher going down, and then we
had another fandom. And also theStar Trek Universe podcast we've been we've had
weekly Star Trek and we have recentlystarted watching The Boys. Yeah, we've
been doing that. But The Boysprobably wouldn't have turned our heads if James
Bond didn't suck. Right now,we're just kind of in an era that
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we don't care for. Yeah,I'm sorry, Yeah, I feel bad
about it. This episode just notgonna change much on that. Yeah,
we as far as I can recall, Yeah, we watched this on the
fifth. We watched this two weeksago. As far as what I can
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remember, you and I were bothreally into this movie for like the first
ten or fifteen minutes. Yeah,we were like, Okay, awesome,
they're doing some different stuff. They'reyou know, there's cool stuff happening,
there's weird, funny stuff happening.And then it just kind of got boring
again. It kind of just gotback to the same old, same old.
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Yeah, I'm not sure where Iwhere where I started feeling like it
wasn't going well for me. Umlet's get into the synopsis and and and
maybe we'll maybe I'll figure it out. Sure, um So, the British
Information Gathering vessel UH Saint George's,which holds the Automatic Targeting Attack Communicator ATTACK,
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the system used by the Ministry ofDefense to communicate with and coordinate the
Royal Navy's fleet of Polaris submarines,as sunk after accidentally trawling an old naval
mine in the Ionian Sea. That'sa sentence. That is a sentence right
there. James Bond is ordered bythe Minister of Defense, Sir Frederick Gray
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and in my sixth Chief of StaffBill Tanner to retrieve the attack before the
Soviets, as the transmitter could orderattacks by the submarines Polaris ballistic missiles.
That is the most boring synopsis.Seriously, I have so checked out right
now. I actually started staring atmy bottle of water. I put a
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bottle of water in the freezer andthen got it out of the freezer and
brought it back to Dave's office todo the podcast. And while you were
reading, I was looking at itand thinking, oh wow, that's really
neat. It just has like alittle thick layer of frozen stuff on the
top and everything underneath. It islike I was legitimately just staring at my
bottled water. It's not a bottleof water, it is a cup.
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This is big belly murder. I'mvery proud. I got it at the
Warner Brothers studio lot in Los Angelesafter doing a Warner Brothers tour. That
was awesome. We could, Icould, because you probably wouldn't care.
I could do a whole podcast episodeon that, and it would probably be
a lot more exciting to me thanrehashing this movie. My apologies kind of
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you know what where no one hasever going to or no one people have
accused me out, but no oneI don't feel like has any real cause
to ever say that I'm dishonest aboutYou're like, oh, you're just acting
like you like a thing now.Yeah, No, I'm not a shill.
I don't think you You don't havethat switch. You don't know how
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to do that? No, Idon't. I mean, I'm sure I
could figure it out, but Ijust don't care. I've never wanted to
be that person. Yeah, andI appreciate that about you because I am
that person. Yeah, And soI need someone who was not like that.
And what you know what's weird islike I have recently, just like
the last like probably ten to twelvehours, started to get really excited about
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James Bond again. Oh, becauseI don't think it's anything official, Like
I think it's all from like yeahabout the name who the next one is?
Yeah, I think I've mostly seenit from trash site, So I
don't really trust it yet. Right, but um, just the just the
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notion that Tom Hardy might be replacedin Daniel Craig is like, okay,
I'm back. My heart would breakfor old litters, but for what it
was, elbow, that's why,why would you do that anyway? But
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yeah, that's cool. Yeah,I mean, if I didn't want him
a superman so badly, I wouldtotally think Henry Cavill should be James Bond.
But you know, and I didn'twe discuss one time, um,
Quentin Lance, Oh yeah, no, he would be good. Yeah.
Uh. Paul Blackthorne, yes,because he's actually British, like y'all were
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not just delusional. But I thinkif honestly, I think if I if
if I was placed in charge ofthe James Bond franchise and they were like,
you can hire anyone you want toplay James Bond and do it the
way you want, I would totallymake it like no feel no, absolutely
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not Richard io Wady, Nope,Nope, I would not harss so downed.
Oh oh you're considering possibly nice?He might actually pull it off like
I would like to see that.Yeah, what you do hurt my eart?
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It's tender and I touched it mold shinshi shinji. That's what happened.
So no, uh, if ifif I was given the brains,
I would want to go back anddo like as uh faithful as an adaptation
as I can to to the bookswith like the original, with like an
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idea of the original description. SoI would probably have Tom Hittleston with a
scar down his cheek nice, likejust playing a right bastard. Yeah,
yeah, that's awesome. Do likelike don't go to Specter right away.
Let's do a bunch of smur stufflike, yeah, like cool. I
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think I would. I would wantto do like really old old school even
you know, pre economy kind ofstuff. That's awesome. Anyhow, it
would be really cool. Oh,which reminds me now, I'm pretty sure.
Um, while we were watching thismovie and talking about how bored we
were with it, we were talkingabout things that at this point they could
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have done differently to mix up someof the James Bond stories a little bit
more, to shake it up andmaybe give us something different. Um.
I think one of the things wesaid was that it would be really cool
if they did a period piece andlike went back to the nineteen fifties,
it kind of did things a littlebit differently, because man, I don't
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remember if it's in this one ornot. I'm sorry, I don't remember.
Not only do I not remember thisone very well, but they're also
kind of all just like spilling overinto each other. At this point,
we were also talking about how theBond films have stayed pretty topical, you
know, like they've kind of builtin some of the things that were happening
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during that time period, like intothe movie. They've also stayed on trend
with things, and that's cool.I respect them for that, but I
do think we were talking about howawesome it would have been if they just
mixed things up and like, youknow, just like in the middle of
the eighties, they were just like, your next Bond film is going to
be a period piece and it's goingto take place in the fifties, just
because we want something that's different.Yeah, because we started out in the
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sixties, and so you've seen thesixties, what the seventies looked like,
what the eighties looked like. Nowwe're going to go back to like way
before all that, to like theforties or fifties. When Fleming was writing
the books. I think that wouldhave been cool. Ye, And to
my knowledge, there's not any Bondfilm that has done that. Yeah,
I don't think so. Yeah,I think they've always taken place during the
year that they were filmed or released. M Yeah, anyway, Yeah,
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I would like to I would liketo see like period peace stuff. Yeah,
at this point I think, yes, just not Victorian era, like
like, oh god, dude,like UK, the UK really seems to
love to go back to the Victorianarea what area era? Like, Well,
that's because the BBC has a limitedbudget, so and they have Victorian
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sets all the time. Yeah,so like that's why Doctor Who does like
Sherlock, Sherlock and Christmas especial DoctorWho. And I just I don't know
what it is about me, butwhen I hear Victorian era, I'm just
like, like, I don't evencheck out it. Actually, I've actually
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gotten to the point now where I'mnot just bored with it. I actually
kind of get angry, like,oh my gosh again, Yeah, don't
they know I hate that? Andyeah I do too, but yet I
really want to watch that Millie BobbyBrown. Oh yeah, I'm totally gonna
watch that sister. Yes, yes, in Nola Holmes. Yeah, I'm
gonna watch it. Yeah. Wellbut dude like Henry cavill Is is Sherlock,
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so that's awesome. Yeah, well, hopefully there will be enough positives
to cancel out like them. Idon't know the anger in my brain when
it when it hears Victorian Era.I mean, yeah, I don't know
everything about that film except except forthat the Era made maybe you know,
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maybe go uh you know, maybetotal sliding them d MS. Okay,
back to the synopsis. Sure,yeah, second paragraph. So okay,
before we get to the second paragraph, can I just say that like the
thing I think, like the opening, the cold open, Yeah, where
they like weren't like blow Felt takescontrol of the helicopter and then he like
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gets back control of the helicopter andkills Blowfeld. Oh my gosh, it
was just fantastic. That was amazingand really reminded me of some like Inspector
Gadget type stuff or vice versa.I know they didn't take from Inspector Gadget
then, but because they just kindof it was really cool. Went back
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to like the the early Bond,Blowfeld not being seen and yeah, and
we know it's because of Kevin McClory, and they didn't have the right in
the Blowfields. They couldn't even saythe name Blowfeld, right. Apparently that
was Albert Broccley's way of saying screwyou to McClory, like we all need
Blowfield and your crap. It wasridiculous and amazing. I quite enjoyed it.
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Yeah, it was great anyway.The head of the KGB, General
Google, has also learned of thefate of the Saint George's and already notified
his contact in Greece. A marinearchaeologist, Sir Timothy Havelock, who has
been asked by the British to secretlylocate the Saint George's, is murdered with
his wife by a Cuban hitman.Hitman. Hitman. That's his last name,
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mister hitman. My name is Cubanhitman, Hector Gonzalez. Bond goes
to Spain to find out who hiredGonzalez. I don't remember any of this.
Oh my gosh, I don't either. I was just thinking. I
was just thinking, I am tryingso hard, like it's really bad.
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If someone read these two paragraphs tome and said, is this from a
James Bond film. I would haveto say, no, I don't even
Here's here's what I do remember becauseI wrote it down in my notes.
Um, I love it. Uhthat in the beginning of the film we
see Bond in a cemetery and heis visiting his wife. Yes, I
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loved that. Acknowledging that once again, Yes, that was awesome. I
was fantastic. Oh uh should wehaven't? Yeah, we haven't done a
podcast since. Um, wasn't it. Uh the lady who played his late
wife, Diana rig Yeah, soyeah, so I was sad to hear
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that. Yeah, barely. Shewas on the Game of Thrones and Avengers
movies. Well, yeah, Idon't know. Sorry don't I'm sorry,
I don't. I probably maybe maybeshould have looked up some of her history.
But no, Yeah, we areDave and I are like one of
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the five people in the world whodon't watch Game of Thrones, Dragons and
inziest I got nothing. Um,all right, so cool? Okay?
Um. So, while spying onGonzalez's villa, Bond is captured by his
men, but manages to escape asGonzalez is killed by a crossboat crossbow bolt
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outside he finds the assassin was MelinaHavelock. Okay, I remember that,
the daughter of Sir Timothy, andthe two escape. Okay, so I
remember Melina because she was on theboat and her parents got gunned down.
You remember, Oh right, thisis horrible. This is not even a
review cast. This is us readinga synopsis and remembering what we watch.
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I'm so sorry. All right.So, with the help of it,
yes, thank you. Do youremember that that was really sad? I
felt for her man just being ona nice little vacation or boat trip or
something with her parents. Yep,yep. So, with the help of
bond, Q uses computerized technology toidentify the man Bonsall, paying off Gonzalez
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as Belgian underworld enforce her Emire Leopoldlow Lock, and then goes to Locke's
possible base in a Quartina, Italy. I remember that awful scene where they're
sitting in the thing and he's likemaking the face with the computer and he's
like, here's not Pinocchio. Ohyeah, yeah, got it, And
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he's just like lips or Fuller.I was a smaller right yeah right,
and it was just like that cuttingedge technology, right, yeah, I'm
just sitting there going like this ain'treal, all right, they're balling.
Meets his contact Luigi Ferrara and awell connected Greek businessman and intelligence informant,
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Eris Kristados, who tells Bond thatLocke is employed by Mela's colombo known as
the Dove and the Greek Underworld,Christados's former resistance partner during the Second World
War. After Bond goes with Christadosprotege figure skater BB Doll to the biathlon
right girl, Yeah, yeah,that weird, like super young girl who
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was like really into Bond. Gotit. A group of three men,
which includes East German biathlete and KGBagent Eric Kriegler, chase's Bond, trying
to kill him. Bond escapes andthen goes with Ferrara to bid BB farewell
in an ice rink, where hefends off another attempt on his life by
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three men in ice hockey gear,which I am certain I remember thinking like
I think they I think they dida homage to this en Dogma. Remember
when I told you I thought,like the kids playing hockey and the demonic
kids who were like circling Jay andBob and the Yeah, actually I think
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it was the last scion. Itwas Bethany that they were circling. But
yeah, well look at that.Ferrara is killed in Bond's car with a
dove pin in his hand. Bondthen travels to Corfu in pursuit of Colombo.
Like I really am, just likeI am only memory memoring, remembering
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slivers, Yeah of this, likeit was a dream you had. Yeah,
wait, I remember a green shirt. I don't remember a green shirt.
They're at the casino. Bond meetsCristados and asks him to meet Colombo,
not knowing that Colombo's men are secretlyrecording their conversation. After Colombo and
his mistress, Countess Lisel von schoffschlaugh argue, Bond offered, by the
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way, that woman, the Countess, she was at the time married to
uh Pierce Brosnan, whoa neat,Yeah, I remember that. That's an
interesting connection. Bond offers to escorther home with Cristado's car and driver.
The two then spend the night together. I think that's the first time he's
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he's done the deed in this movie. Oh yeah, because David, is
that where David Wang pointed that out? Was it this movie? Yeah?
Why don't I remember anything? It'sapparently not just an issue with this movie.
I just don't recall anything. Idon't know what. My gosh,
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maybe it was maybe it was thismovie. When David Waange was saying,
like he didn't it's got to bea record for bond that was Joe Joe
Fornarada. Oh okay, I'm sosorry, guys, it's okay. Something's
wrong. No, no, we'velost interest. I think that's what the
problem is. And we we're tryingto get it back. Trying to get
it back. Man. It's I'mfeeling good about. It's the eighties now.
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I love the eighties. Who's nextDalton? Timothy Yeah, yeah,
and I like I like Timothy Dalton. We're getting close to finishing out.
Roger Moore. I like Roger Moore. You're the one that doesn't like Roger
Moore. No, I like RogerMoore. Roger Moore is great. I'm
sick of the films that he's in. Yeah, it's not his fault.
But you do the same thing withSean Connery. Yeah. See, something's
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happening. He's there a gas leakumBonds. Oh they killed the lady bond
Is. Bond Is captured by Colombo'smen before a Locke can kill him.
Colombo then tells Bond that Locke hasactually hired by Cristados, who is working
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for the KGB. To retrieve theattack, Bonda Company's Colombo and his crew
on a raid on one of Christado'sopium processing warehouses in Albania, where Bond
uncovers naval minds similar to the onethat sank the Saint George's, suggesting it
was not an accident. After thebase is destroyed, Bond Chase's lock and
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kills him like I'm sitting here atthe entire time, reading and Bethany is
just like over here, like dying, like giggling under her hand. I
don't understand. Tonight is a specialnight, man, It's a weird one.
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We are drunk and have Alzheimer's.I don't. I haven't had a
drink. We're not drunken, wedon't have Alzheimer's. It is as though
we are drunken. Have Alzheimer's gotyou? Oh my gosh. Afterwards,
Bond meets Molina and they recover theattack from the wreckage of the Saint George's,
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but Christado is waiting for them whenthey surface, and he takes the
attack. After the two escape anassassination attempt through shark infested waters, they
discovered Cristado's rendezvous point when Melina's parrotMax repeats the phrase attack to Saint Cyril's
I remember that parrot because we knew, Yeah, we knew it was gonna
be a piece of the puzzle.Yep. When when we saw the parrot
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the first time, I'm like,Uh, that's how they're gonna find out
the thing. They're gonna hear itfrom the bird. And then I was
right, okay, what that wassomething we both deduced, David. I
mean, I don't know, Idon't remember you having a say in it,
but you probably did. Oh.I think. I think. I
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just like, I seriously think that. I like looked up and saw a
parrot and went that they're gonna doa thing with that one, and then
I went back to sleep. Ohmy gosh, I believe you. Thank
you, baby, I believe you. Think you're right. No, I'm
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saying I believe you. Where arewe at? Oh yeah. With the
help of Colombo stop laughing and fourof his men, Bond and Melina break
into Saint Cyril's an abandoned mountaintop monastery. That's what that place was. It's
a monastery. Yeah, yeah,I don't. I just remember thinking like,
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yeah, it's like a place madeof sticks or something. Oh my
gosh, it's like, what isthis place? Where they there? God
bless you if you're still listening.This is so incoherent. Oh my gosh,
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this is the worst podcast ever.Oh my god, what is happening?
Made of sticks, wasn't it?I don't know. I don't remember.
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That is the theme. I don'tremember. As Colombo confronts Cristados,
Bond kills Kriegler. Bond retrieves theAtax system and stops Melina from killing Cristados.
After he surrenders, Cristados tries tokill Bond with a hidden flick knife,
but was killed by a knife thrownby Colombo. I remember that.
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I remember that, the other guykilling the guy. Nice Google arrives by
helicopter to collect the attack, butBond throws it off the cliff, destroying
it. Bond and Molina later spenda romantic evening aboard her father's yacht when
he receives a call from the PrimeMinister, leaving Max to flirt with the
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Prime Minister, much to the annoyanceof qu Ray And yeah, I remember
that too. I do remember.That was weird. Yeah, that was
weird. It was weird that theydidn't think something was wrong at first,
right they they just thought it wasJames Bond and couldn't yeh, couldn't tell
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that his voice changed. Yeah,I mean they haven't noticed that he changed
his persona like three times. He'sa completely different person um, so why
not he sounds like a bird now? Yeah? Uh so, Yeah,
I remember all some of that.I did like that he threw the attack
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off of the mountain. He's like, now we don't need you want to
us have it? Yeah. TheGeneral's like all right, that seemed fun.
Yeah. I was like, wellthat was a hoot. Is there
a is this? Is this agood introduction to James Bond? I guess
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I'm gonna say no because I don'tremember it. Yeah. I remember liking
it for the first ten or fifteenminutes. Yeah, Like I remember us
saying okay, I'm down, okay, yeah, and then it just like
really it was boring, man,it was it just got boring and it
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was just, you know, thesame as the other ones that we don't
care for very much. I don'tknow, dude. I guess I'm gonna
have to say no, because Ijust I thought it was boring and I
don't remember it very well. Idon't think it's a good introduction to James
Bond. I'm sorry that so manypeople like and that Roger Moore liked it
and it was his favorite. No. Man, I liked it for the
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first you know, ten minutes orso, and then I was so bored.
I was struggling to stay away.Um. I just remember being so
bored. Yeah, that's what Iremember, is being bored. Yeah,
and just like not caring. Yeah, and uh, and it wasn't.
It's not just burnout. It reallyisn't, because we were really down for
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the first like ten minutes. Yeah, we were into this is great and
then like where's this is? Whatis this? This is same? This
old hat? Now? Yeah,dude, And I feel like this certainly
isn't the sole issue. But partof the problem is that all of Roger
Moore's films, like the first one, starts out at like an hour and
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fifty five minutes, and as DavidWang pointed out to us before we started
on the Roger Moore films. EachRodger Moore film is a little bit longer
than the last one, not bymuch, maybe by like two minutes.
But at this point, yes,we've got to where like all of Roger
Moore's films are too about two hourslong. This one was maybe two ten
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or something. It's just that's along time to watch a movie that is
a formula that you find boring.Yeah, that's just a long time.
We get about halfway through it andwe're just like kicking our feet like kids
throw on tantrums. Since like we'reall I halfway Ye, all right,
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So, um, based on thismovie, would you want to keep watching
the franchise? I don't think so. Yeah. If if someone just showed
me this movie, I've been like, yeah, I'm good, Yeah,
I'm good. I would assume wewould not recommend this movie to anyone we
loved. No, Oh, let'sjust scoot on through. Oh the music
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was by Bill Conti. Yes,I did enjoy that. Would you like
to discuss our recent venture with BillConti? We watched The Karate Kid Yeah
last night. Yeah, but we'renot getting into that. I mean,
I'm not asking you to review theKarate Kid. Yeah, I mean,
we can't do that right now,and we're having a hard enough time as
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it is. Yikes. Yeah.See the thing about that is that I
remember way more from the Karate Kidthan I do from this, and I
definitely watched that for the first timeabout twenty years ago anymore. Anyway,
Yeah, I finally started watching CobraKai and Dave hasn't seen any of the
Karate Kid movies, and so wewatched the first Karate Kid movie last night
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and it was great. And BillConti did the music, and I didn't
know that he wrote You're the bestaround. I don't think he wrote right.
Yeah, that's a good call.I didn't know that he wrote that
song. I thought it was justan eighties song they used in that film.
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That was really cool. Um yeah, so welcome to the eighties in
case you didn't know. Uh,Sheena Easton m escorts us into the first
eighties Bondfield. That was so bad. That was awful. I mean I
loved it because that kind of musicis my jam. I loved it.
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And uh, here is the firstfilm where the person singing the song is
actually in the opening credits. MUm. Yeah, so super duper eighties.
Let's talk about favorite quotes real quick. Do you have any No,
that's true? Dope? Okay?Cool. So when I did when I
did my prep for this, Idid, uh put down the stuff that
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I remembered liking that I found,and uh, here are those okay.
Um, Bond tells, uh,baby doll. He says, I think
you're wonderful, but I don't thinkyour uncle would approved. She says him.
He thinks I'm Stellaver virgin. Hesays he, yes, will you
get your clothes on and I'll buyyou an ice cream? Yes? I
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remember laughing. Yep, I rememberthat. Yeah, yeah, um.
And thank goodness he has a linesomewhere like at least he can drol the
line somewhere be like right, becauseshe absolutely would have slept with him,
I believe if he had been sothank god he has some kind of standards.
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Um. I really loved Blowfield going, mister Bond, we can do
a deal. I'll buy you adelicatessen and stainless steel. That was funny
to me. Um, this wasweird when they when he was talking to
Tanner and Gray and Bond was like, now, if we could identify that
someone and Tanner says, why don'tyou try that identograph? And Frederick Gray
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goes, do you remember that?And then Bond goes, yes, sir,
and then Tanner says, we'll getcracking to below seven, and then
Frederick Gray goes and then they justthey they they don't play it like that's
normal. Like Bond absolutely just staresat him like he's crazy and goes minister
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and like they leave, Like itwas really weird. It was such a
weird choice. Wow, maybe there'ssome sort of historical significance there that I'm
just not getting. Maybe it waslike a reference to something that I don't
I don't know, I don't knowthat. This was just really weird,
but it made me laugh. Iremember us sitting there going like what just
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happened? And uh? And thenBaby says there's Eric Kriegler and James Bond
says the East German champion. Shesays, isn't he beautiful? And he
says, you know something, Baby, you're fickle. I enjoyed that.
That was funny. I did rememberthose things, those lines, and that
was it. Favorite scene Blowfeld.Oh, absolutely, the helicopter situation.
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Yep, least favorite scene everything,No, idea, no idea. I
think the part that you can't nameanything else, just the first paragraph.
Yeah, what do I hope tosee going forward? Memories? Oh?
My gosh? Remember god, no, I want to remember. That's that's
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what's the next one? Do youknow what the Oh? That's right,
that's right. And do we havethree more Roger Moore or two more?
I don't know. I don't knoweither. I think just one more after
Octopussy. Okay, but yeah,well we'll have a break from him because
we'll go back to Connery and dothe Thunderball remake. Yikes. Yeah,
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my rating one point five under ageOlympian skating sex pots out of five.
Nice, Okay, mine is twopoint five not legally blow fields out of
five and not legally blow fields.That's great, all right, So let's
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look at the ranking here. Um, where are you putting for your eyes
only? Um? Let's see.I am putting that one number eight after
you only live twice? So apparentlywhen I watched it, I thought it
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was better than From Russia with Love. Um yeah, wow, yeah,
gosh, yeah, I did notmake it. No, I liked it
better than from Russia. Diamonds areforever Thunderball, Moonraker, and Poopy Royal.
That is impressive. Yeah, Iguess so. Yeah, it's probably
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going to fall down a little bitfurther. You know, now, since
I don't remember it. Here's thething I did though the night we watched
it, because I suspected I wasn'tgoing to remember it very well, I
went to letterboxed and I went aheadand rated it and then put it on
my list in the order nice thenI wanted it. So my ranking is
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as such. One Doctor No,as has been the case, two On
Her Majesty's Secret Service, three Goldfinger, four or Live and Let Die?
Five, The Spy Who Loved Mesix, The Man with the Golden Gun
seven from Russia with Love, eightYou Only Live Twice nine For Your Eyes
Only ten Diamonds are Forever eleven,Thunderball, twelve, Moon Ranker thirteen Casino
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roy Yal. That is so I'mcomparing our rankings. Okay, yeah they're
still pretty close. But yeah,you have For Your Eyes Only listed as
number nine. I haven't listed asnumber eight, so we're not that far
apart. Okay, all right,let's get into some trivia here. The
budget for this movie was twenty eightmillion, It grows to hundred and ninety
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five point three million net profit margineighty five point six six percent. The
net profit was one hundred and sixone hundred and sixty seven million, three
hundred thousand dollars. The profit percentagewas five hundred and ninety seven point five
zero percent. Crazy Man stunt manPaolo Rigony died during the filming of The
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Bob Sled Chase. That's sad.I'm sorry, buddy, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry you died for this movie. Oh absolutely, you don't remember that.
Oh my god. So we werelike cracking on it when when it
was happening. I remember that.I vaguely remember. We were probably said
something about how it wasn't as boringas the other one or something, or
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like, oh my gosh, anotherone. Yeah, that was more on
the line. I remember us goinglike, God, they're skiing again,
and then it was like, God, there's another Bob slid. Yep.
That was a thing we complained about. I remember that. What sucks that
a guy died? It does.This is the only Bond movie to date
the official franchise not to feature mIt was the first Bond movie. Umm.
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I read that twice twice. No, no, he was, but
there was a reason. It wasthe first one not to feature Bernard Lee
as m oh And he tried tocome in and he was dying of stomach
cancer and he died on January sixteenth, nineteen eighty one, after the filming
had started, but before his sceneswere shot. He tried to do a
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film, tried to do a sceneand he just couldn't do it. And
they decided to change the script togive the to flesh it out between those
all those other characters. Yeah andQ you know, um, and Albert
Broccoli didn't want to recast the roleyet. Yeah, well that's good.
They said he was on leave.I remember them saying usially, um.
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And they had to cut out areference to blow Feld because I couldn't call
him blow Feld. Um M.I don't know if that picked up to
had a little hiccup situation, yedid, alrighty. So the stunt of
Bond falling off the cliff was dangeroussince the sudden rope jerk at the bottom
could be fatal. Derek Mettings developeda system that would dampen the stop,
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but Rick Sylvester recalled that his nervesnearly got the better of him. From
where we were, you could seethe local cemetery in the box to stop
my fall looked like a cask.Oh geez, you didn't need to be
an English major to connect the dots. Wow, stunt went off without a
problem. Well that's good. Um. To enter the identograph booth, Q
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enters a five digit code. Thosefive digits were the first five notes to
the chorus of nobody does it Better, the theme to the Spy Who Loved
Me? James Bond responds by enteringthe final two notes. That's cool.
I didn't catch that, probably becauseI was asleep or something. Moonraker was
a huge financial success. How Idon't know, but critics commented that the
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film franchise had come too focused onwild gadgets, outlandish plots, over the
top villains, and screwball comedy.Where where Yeah, where was that?
As a result, producers decided toreturn to a more realistic storyline in this
movie, using From Russia with Loveand on Her Majesty's Secret Service as models.
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That's why there were so many thingsthat we were like still yeah.
As a result, producers decided,oh, never mind. Therefore, this
movie contains many story elements similar tothose movies. The attack is similar to
the Elector, Kriegler is similar toGrant Colombo is similar to Karen Bay,
and the winter activity sequences are similarto those on Her On Her Majesty's Secret
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Service. Okay, like you can. You can still refer back to movies
that, like if you like theplot more or if they were more successful
or whatever, like, hey,let's see what worked for that. You
can still refer back to movies inthat manner, but not just coletely copy
them over and then just change outnames. Yeah, like you can.
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You can still do that, y'all. I mean, that's why you Presumably
these people are being paid to dosome kind of artistic work, like they're
supposed to be professionals. It's Iagree, begging Bond to spare his life.
Ernst Blowfeld baffles viewers with the crypticline I'll buy you a delicatessen and
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stainless steel. It is reported thatthe phrase is attributable to producer Albert Broccoli,
who recalled accounts of nineteen thirties NewYork mafia gangsters offering full service delhis
as a bribe to cohorts, completewith stainless steel counter talks that's such an
obscure thing, that is such aweird prefer for him to be like this
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will get him laughing everybody. Idon't know what's a call back to nineteen
thirties gangsters. The epithaph in theopening scene of Von's wife's tombstone is we
have all the time in the worldhis last words to her on her Majesty's
secret service, and title song howardreaking, that's so good. Roger Moore's vertigo
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made the rock Face climax especially hardto do. Moore has said that he
took a small amount of valum anddrank a tall glass of beer before some
of the scary climbing sequences, whichhelped him through the close up shots.
Stuntman Rick Sylvester performed most of thework. Moore only had to dangle over
a four foot drops four foot drop. He's taken valium hard drinking because of
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the four foot drop, while Sylvesterman it probably seemed worse than that if
he was drunken on valium. WhileSylvester performed Sorry, while Sylvester dangled over
a twenty foot drop, yep oh, that was probably my least favorite.
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Hey, the whole climbing thing andoh yeah, yeah that was awful.
Yeah yeah, maybe that's why Ipushed it out of my mind. Yeah
dude, I'm yeah, I'm thetype who will like see crap like that,
like real people climbing stuff on Facebookand just like lay in bed and
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have a panic attack until I canlike calm myself and remind myself that I'm
like not up high. Or oneof those awful, awful videos where it's
like someone is filming inside a carthat's like like a like a bus or
something that's like driving down the sideof a mountain and it looks like they're
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driving over the side of it.Yeah. Yeah, where videos where kids
are singing anyway. Cassandra Harris,who played the Countess, was at the
time of filming married to future BondPierce Brosnan Pretty Cool. He was offered
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the part five years later, buthe was unable to appear as Bond in
The Living Daylights due to Reymington Steelcommitments. It was during this production that
Cassandra Harris introduced Pierce Brosnan to producerAlbert Broccoli. Morris Binder decided to include
Shea Easton in the title sequence becausehe thought she looked striking. After meeting
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her in person, he told producerAlbert Broccoli, I must have that face.
However, shooting Easton in the titlesequence proved to be a problem since
Binder was using soft light focus anda very high resolution film stock. On
extreme close ups of Easton's face,the smallest, most imperceptible head wobble would
blur her image on the film.Oh gosh. Binder finally had to resort
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to putting Easton's head in a steelclamp, which kept her head perfectly steel.
The tongues of the clamp were hiddenin her hair, with the support
brief support hidden behind her back.It was the most painful thing I've ever
worn in Easton later recalled, buthe got my face in seventy millimeter.
Oh my word, Yeah, that'sweird. The closing scene with British Prime
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Minister Margaret Thatcher Margaret the first timea real life head of government was portrayed
on screen in a James Bond movie. She was portrayed by Janet Brown,
who was well known for performing impersonationsof Thatcher, which I think is funny
that like they ended ended with thatwhen they were like, Oh, the
critics don't like screwball comedy, whydon't we end with like basically the equivalent
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of Kate McKinnon doing Hillary Clinton.Yeah, and started out by dropping a
man in a wheelchair down whatever.Yeah, like a smokestack, Yeah,
that or Bio Dela Yeah, becausethat's not screwball comedy. UM director John
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Glenn stated that there had been somecushion of bringing back the Jaw's character for
a third time, but eventually theidea was rejected as they felt he did
not fit the movie's more serious tone. I do think it would have been
too much to bring him back fora third movie, but I disagree with
their reasoning. Yeah. Toe Paulsuggested to producer Albert Brockwood that he invited
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former co producer Harry Saltzman to thepremiere, and he did, marking the
first reunion between the men since theirbreakup. After The Man with the Golden
Gun, the Man with the GoldenGun on the wing of the plane,
there's a man, a man onthe wing of the plane, so things.
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When Boebe flirts with Bond, shestates that Aristotle Cristados is much older
than Bond and while Bobe pursues Bond. She later tells Cristados that Cristados is
too old for her. Cristados isalso a nineteen thirty nine to nineteen forty
five World War Two veteran. Infact, Clever was born in thirty five
and is eight years younger than More. Although not mentioned in this movie,
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Roger Moore said in his autobiography thatthe character of Bibbie Doll was supposed to
be only sixteen years old. Thiswas the first James Bond script to be
written by regular James Bond writing duoteam Richard Maybaum and Michael G. Wilson.
This writing partnership continued until License toKill. It was also the first
James Bond movie directed by John Glenn, whose first Bond movie he worked on
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was On Her Majesty's Secret Service.As second unit director, he directed four
more movies in the franchise, endingwith License to Kill. Julian Glever,
who played Aristotle, was a candidateto play James Bond in the sixties and
was on the short list as apossible replacement for a Connery Anne Lazenbe prior
to the role going to more interesting. The opening scene where Bond visits his
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wife. Tracy's Grave was written asa way to introduce the new Bond actor,
thus linking the new the new actortwo elements from previous Bond movies,
namely Timothy Dalton, who was approachedto take over his Bond in this movie.
Dalton declined as he disliked the directionthe franchise was taking at the time.
Wow. According to the CD soundtracksleeve notes, composer John Barry could
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not compose the score for this movieas he allegedly could not return in the
UK for taxation purposes. Again Adude, sort your life, mate.
The whole movie. The whole movieis strongly reminiscent of On Her Majesty's Secret
Service. In both Bond I Guessand both movies, Bond is with a
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countess on a beach threatened by moose, kicks a gun out of a moose
hand, and is wearing a tuxedosans jacket. Both movies show Bond at
a jacket. Both movies show Bondat a casino with the aforementioned countess.
Both times the women are losing itBaccarat. The opening teaser sequence shows Tracy
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Bond's grave and Blowfeld in a neckbrace. Also in this movie, Molina
is half English half Greek. InOn Her Majesty's Secret Service, Tracy was
half English half Italian. Both movieshave Bond allied with a crime syndicate figure
who doesn't sell drugs. Bond alsoescapes in both movies by writing in the
car of the female lead, whodoes the majority of the driving. Both
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movies have a wedding scene and Bondwriting in a helicopter piloted by someone else.
Both movies have Bond speaking with apriest at some point. Both movies
are set in the Alps at onepoint, show a Bond girl on ice,
have Bond on skis getting shot at, and have a bob sled track
fight or battle sequence. Mountain climbersare shown in both movies at some point.
Both movies have a Germanic female characterwho is in charge of a girl
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or girls. Finally, in bothmovies, Bond and his crime syndicate ally
assault a mountain top layer. Thatis ridiculous. Yeah, that's all right,
that's gonna knock this one down.Oh my god, but it's just
it's ridiculous. They just like theyjust actually copied over they just kept on
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Her Majesty's Secret Service script and justlike put in a couple of different things,
somehow made it boring. Max theParrot makes a return appearance in The
Living Daylights. What he's seen inthe kitchen of the safe house when Necro's
fights with the chef. That's weird, isn't it. He's the guy with
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the drink. Oh my gosh.Max is now the new guy with a
dream. Oh my gosh, that'sso weird. For the first time since
on Her Majesty's Secret Service, wesee Bond toss his trilby into the stand
to announce himself to Moneypenny. RogerMoore was never seen wearing it during his
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time in the role, despite repeatingthe procedure in the next two injuries.
The only as of twenty nineteen timeBill Conti was involved with the music themes
from a Bond movie Victor Toward Janskythe Second the Italian second Unit director as
Man with Glass and his last appearanceafter The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker.
So that was that guy, theMan with the Glass. Sir Roger
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Moore hated the final scene with MargaretThatcher. He felt it didn't suit the
serious tone of the rest of thefilm. He also didn't like getting a
clue about the attack from a parrot. More thought it that thought it was
the type of silliness his Bond filmswere usually criticized for being. Yeah,
yep, they should have let himwrite some of this, man, I
would just let go. Nope,rubbish, Sir Roger Moore. Sorry I
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ever said that. I don't know, or maybe not. No, yeah,
sir. Roger Moore was not happyabout the scene where he cold bloodedly
kills Locke by pushing his teetering caroff of a cliff, although More I
remember we had a problem with thattoo. We were like, hey,
man, that's not okay. AlthoughMore acknowledged that this was a thing to
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do as we do, he didn'tfeel that it was a Roger Moore thing
to do or Roger Moore Bond thingto do. Michael G. Wilson also
added that he and Richard Maybaum,along with John Glynn, toyed with other
ideas surrounding that scene, but ultimatelyeveryone even more agreeing to do the scene
is originally written. The body accountin this movie was fifty four or eighteen
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of those killed by Bond. Wow. Yeah, all right, yea,
let's get it back to some listenerfeedback from last week or last month.
Keoki Young says, definitely one ofmy favorites, and Roger Moore's too.
How I'm sorry, how I mean, I'm sorry that we I don't know,
man, Maybe you'll listen to thisand feel like we hurt your feelings.
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I'm sorry. Yeah, I hopenot. But that's awesome. I'm
glad you like it. Yeah,I'm down. I'm glad. Let us
know why you like it because help. David Wayang says the plot will be
seeming similar to that of From Russiawith Love, but instead of Bonds stealing
a piece of Russian spy where he'llhave to recover a British piece before the
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Russians can get their mits on it. Yep. Then he asked thoughts on
them not recasting Bernard's Bernard Lee's mright away instead of writing it, instead
writing it in that M is onleave, but this crisis still happens to
the Minister of Defense and the M. My sixth chief of staff filled in
for leadership roles. I'm down,man, I understand he need you need
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a little buffer room, especially sincethe guy tried to come in and do
something and he was he just couldn'tmake it work. That's so sad.
Yeah. I also feel like hehad been m for such a long time
nineteen years at this point. Yeah, um it. I feel like it
was a sign of respect not toimmediately recast him. And like you said,
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especially since he tried to come inand do it, I think it
would have been really insulting for themto just like turn around the next day
and try to get another guy tocome in and do it. So I
agree with that decision. Yeah.And in fact, I would have not
even I would have altered the scripteven further, and I would have not
said amazon leaf. I would havesaid, you know, well, you
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don't want to do that. Iguess he passed away before they were done,
or before or right after they weredone shooting. Maybe. I don't
know. The whole thing is justbad, Yeah, and sad ye bad
and sad um. John Glenn editorturn director. This is David Wayne Still.
John Glenn, editor turned director fromprevious Bond films will go in to
direct all the eighties Bond films.Um, I this film doesn't instill me
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with a lot of hope. Yeah, I hope to god he gets better.
Yeah, this is a rough,rough film man for me. Yeah,
yeah, although I mean, likeI don't think the directing was a
huge issue for me. It wasthe writing. The writing. Yeah,
yeah, it was just using thesame same old scripts. M Joe Forno
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says, well, five minutes,and I'm a little nervous. The people
seem to hold this one in suchhigh regard. Took us about that long.
About that long too, guy,Yeah, And then he says,
this has to be a record forhow long it has taken Bond to sleep
with someone? Or am I sonumb to it that I literally forgot he
already slept with someone earlier. That'sa good he made it a while,
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though, I think, yeah hedid. He did, like at least
halfway through the movie. I thinkit might also be the least amount of
women he slept with, Like,what was it two? One or two?
And that was it? I thinkjust well, no, he did,
Yeah, there was two. Itwas two. Um so the lady
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who played um this Carol, CarolBouquette. The lady played Melina. She
was born a man. Oh that'sright, Yeah, I already forgot about
that too, man, And youknow, I would have never known if
someone in the Breaking Bond group didn'ttell me. But I'm glad that I
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was told because, um, itmade me wonder if she's the reason that
on Austin Powers they keep saying you'rea man baby. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I wonder if that's why. Huh. Yeah. Like now I'm
I'm now I feel a little iffyabout that Austin Powers joke because I'm like,
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are they making fun of trans people? I don't know, I don't
know. I wonder if there's actuallylike if we could actually research that.
I mean, it seems it seemsalmost too obscure to be able to research,
and even then it might just beup to somebody's opinion, right hopefully,
like I've always taken it, likeI've never thought about it that way.
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Yeah, Um, hopefully it wasjust like you know, spycrap.
Yeah, people constantly in disguise andstuff, like when he kept like punching
that old woman in the face andtrying to rip off her wig. Was
that a thing? Yeah, seemslike it was on a bus. Maybe
that's Captain Marvel. She was ascroll. No, they did that in
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Alston Powers. They did that inAlston Powers. He was like, because
he had already done it, hehad already done it with someone else,
maybe like he punches somebody else inthe face and then rips off the wig
and it's just clearly a completely differentactor right now. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that because it's like ahot a really hot lady and yeah,
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pulls off the wig just like aguy with a beard. It's like this
like big, kind of rotund dudewith the beard. But I was pretty
sure he did that with an oldwoman too, but it wasn't the same
situation that it was just actually anold woman. I don't think it was
a bus though. I think thatwas like a basil expositions mother or something.
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Oh my gosh, yes, yeah, and everyone is just looking at
him with horror on the face.My gosh, punching an old woman,
oh yeah, because he's like,right, well, this wig come off?
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All right, all right. Nextepisode we'll be discussing Octopussy nineteen eighty
three. That's my birth year.Hooray um. It stars Roger Morris,
James Bond. I'm sorry, bag, that's okay, we're getting close to
the end. What's weird is.I think he's my favorite bond so far.
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He is a fantastic bond. He'smy favorite bond so far. Yeah,
I just don't like some of hismovies. Yeah, I'm just I'm
tired. I'm tired of the sameold thing. Yeah. And like I
said before, it's not his fault. I don't think he even kind of
seemed to be tired of it.Yeah. Maud Adams as Octopussy, a
jewel smuggler and wealthy businesswoman. LewisJordan as Kamal Khan, an exiled Afghan
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prince, Christina Weybourne as Magda,trusted subordinate and hinchman to Octopussy and Khan.
Kabir Betty as Gobinda, Khan's bodyguard. Stephen Birkhoff as General Orlov,
a Soviet general who works with Khanto bomb a US air base. David
Meyer and Anthony Meyer as Mishka andKrishka or Mishka and Grishka, Orlov's knife
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throwing hitchman, who were performers inOctopussy's Circus Wow, Robert Brown as m
oh Yeah, and uh Mikaela Clavoas Penelope Smallbone Money Penny's assistant. This
one's going to be again directed byJohn Glenn And once again, you guys,
if you have made it through thiswhole episode, thank you. You
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are a trooper and a gentleman.Unless you're not a gentleman, unless you're
a lady. Nope, still agentleman. Okay, until next time.
Some on what craft joke about Octopussy? I couldn't think of one. I'm
not sure you should have. I'mnot sure there's anything you could have come
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up with that would have been Okay, keep some octos in your pussy.
No, oh my gosh, Nope, no, no, that's not it.
That's not it. Oh my gosh. Hey, why is her name
Octopussy? I don't know. She'sa jewel smuggler? Well you remember those,
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but remember but remember pussies or octopuses? Yeah, well I mean octo
that kind of clue. Yeah,so I mean stuff. She's got many
hands and many different jars, maybelike lots of tendrils. Okay, Oh
what if she had hintaie tentacles?What if she had yah? Oh?
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A gang of eight men who werelike her hingers and like helped her with
the jewel smuggling. I don't know, we'll see maybe she had done eight
heists. Maybe she had that sametech that docc had. And then like
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she's a lady, right, soshe's like the Catherine Han version of Doc
ok from into the Spider Verse.Oh my gosh, was that Catherine Han?
Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and yeah, okay into the
Spider Verse because I'm pretty sure Ieven called but that was that? That
was her voice. I mean,she looked it looked like her. We
should not do this show anymore,start reforming him. What's just talking to
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you? If I quote doing theshow anymore, you mean us stop talking
to you? Well, you aresitting right next to the divorce paper that
I drew. Bye you guys.Is one of my favorite things. My
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