Live and Let Die (1973)

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In this episode of Breaking Bond,we will be talking about Live and Let
Die from nineteen seventy three, starringRoger Moore as James Bond, Jafette Cato
as Doctor Kananga slash Mister Big,Jane Seymour as Solitaire, Julius Harris as
t he Johnson, David Hettison asFelix Slider, Gloria Hendry as Rosie Carver,

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Jeffrey Holder as Baron Sammetti, RoyStewart as Quarrel Junior, and Earl
Jolly Brown as Whisper. Directed byGuy Hamilton. But first, a word
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Robertson. Why we just watched DoomPatrol? We did just watch Dum Patrol
and it was fantastic. Yep,we're not gonna get into that, but
I will say one of the JamesBonds is in it, Timothy Dalton.
Yeah, he plays the chief andhe's amazing. Doom Patrol is better than

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some of the James Bond movies we'vewatched. Doom Patrol is better than every
James Bond movie we have watched.Okay, every episode of Doom Patrol is
better. In my opinion, Iagree, and I don't want to make
people angry, but I agree.Oh, I mean, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what people's opinions are. There are literally hints on people

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who listen to this podcast. That'strue now, you know, don't want
to upset anybody. But at thesame time, like this is, you
know, our subjective opinions as weas we have them. Uh you know.
Yeah, I like Doing Patrol alot better than everything we've seen so
far on but to be various,not the same kind of thing at all.

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No, it's totally Doing Patrol istotally more my kind of thing.
Yeah. Anyway, Yeah, so, so Live and Let Die came out
in nineteen seventy three. We havebroken into Roger Moore as James Bond.
Now we can finally take a breakfrom Sean Connery for a little bit.

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Um. Roger Moore was forty sixin his first Bond film, which seems
kind of old. Yeah, helanded the role at forty five, and
which, yeah, that was olderthan what Connery shared Sharted started started out
as which is a forty in slipdepicting most of his movies. No,

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oh, I don't want to bethat guy. Let's not be that.
That was an innocent slip. Butsince I am eight years old, it
was funny. Yeah, you know, I don't hate most of the Connery
movies. That just don't love them. Yeah. We kind of just grew
tired. Yeah, yeah, becausewe're watching these things for the most part,

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we're watching one Bond movie a weekmostly. Yeah, we did not
have the luxury of David we'll disagreewith us. We do not have the
luxury of having like a year ortwo in between movies, as did the
people in the sixties and seventies.Yeah, or anyone recently who might spread

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them out more. Right, anyway, let's get into the synopsis. And
because we've we've we've got a fairamount of stuff to cover here. Today,
three m I six agents are killedunder mysterious circumstances within twenty four hours
in the United Nations headquarters in NewYork City, New Orleans, and the
Caribbean nation of San Monique, whilemonitoring the operations of the island's dictator,

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doctor Kanega. James Bond, Agentseven, is sent to New York to
investigate Kananga, is also in NewYork visiting the United Nations. Just after
Bond arrives, his drivers shot deadby Whisper, one of Kananga's men while
taking Bond to meet Felix Slider ofthe CIA. Bond is nearly killed in
the ensuing car crash. All right, let's let's let's stop there and talk

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about what we've seen so far.Sure, I do have confirmation via the
trivia that yes, those were mostlyall the same car on that street during
that in the car chase. Wewere watching the car chase with Bond,
and I was like, why doall of those cars look like they are

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the same one They're the same makeit model. Yeah, that's pretty funny.
Um. I really loved seeing Bond'sapartment. Um, his black splash
was ridiculous. But what back splash? Okay, I think I may have
said black splash? You did splash? Is it because you've been researching black

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splitation? No, that was justmy tongue getting in the way, gotcha.
Oh, a more smooth way ofsaying that would be. I really
liked his apartment too, but hisbacksplash was awful. Yeah, it was
kind of awful. Um. Itlooked like, uh, I don't know,

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like you know, like the smallrecords. I can't remember. They're
yeah, seventy fives, that's whatit'll like it like seventy five, okay,
whatever one. I don't know,the little one. Sorry, I
can't remember. I can't remember.I just um, So that's what it
looked like. Um. It couldalso be nipples and would make more sense

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for for Bond. Oh call itactually would though, that's his brand.
Yeah, I guess my backsplashes fornipples. Oh yes, it's a pattern
like that's I'll give this to Connery. It doesn't matter who's playing Bond.
I always hear Sean Connery in myhead. Yeah, yoh, yesh rash.

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But it's not even Connery. It'slike Daryl Hammond's version of conn from
Saturday Night Live. Yeah you doc, Yeah, so I think yeah,
I think it was just a circle. Back to that. Alright, all
right, well they were circles.That's right, circle, circle, dot,
dot, Now you have your cootieshot. That's right. We all

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knew the circle, circle, dotdot was was nipples. It was ariola,
ariola, nipple nipple. Oh huh, that is all. That's why
we got in trouble for saying it. This is the first time I have
ever thought that. I felt likethere was like a certain amount of what

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what's wrong? I was looking atmy hand picturing someone drawing it on me,
like, No, I've never thoughtthat had anything to do with boobs.
I mean, I just need atNo, I don't literally you got
the disease. I don't know.But you know a certain kind of shot
does it like a circle with adot in the middle of it. But
well, they weren't circles with dotsin them. It was a circle and

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then a circle, and then underneathit a dot and a dot. How
does that make sense? That's howI was always administered. No, I
was always administered with a dot inthe center of the circle. That's why
you have cooties. It was notgiven to you correctly got you. You
did not get the vaccine. Iwas not told that. I was not

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told I had cooties. I'm immune. No one has told me I had
cooties. You have it. Ihave Cootie's nineteen. Wait, how did
you do circle circle square square?I never heard of circle circle square square.
Well, that's why you don't haveit everywhere. Oh okay, I
did so well, we learned somethingabout each other today. So Alexee and

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m coming to bond and the bondwas hiding the lady in his in his
room and all that was fun.But why was why was he hiding her?
He wasn't on a mission? Washe people? Because her people were
looking for her? Oh okay,that makes sense. I thought, I
don't know it. Didn't like Moneypenny. God, I feel bad for Moneypenny

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dude, because she's like helping himhide her and stuff. But like,
yeah, but she's kind of afreak about it because she kind of digs
it. She's like, oh,like he's like, thank you, money
Penny. She's like chow, like, why are you down with that?

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Are you helping him? So?Uh? I kind of like Desmond Lewis
wasn't around for this movie. Hewas shooting I Take a TV show.
Um, so he wasn't playing Q. I did like that, Like M
was like giving Bond crap for howthe taxpayers have to like pay for all
of his fancy toys, and Bonduses his little magnetic watch to just be

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like to grab the spoon off ofM's t tray. Like usually Bond is
the one like this is stupid.Yeah, but he was like nope,
there you go. And then heuses the magnet, the magnetic thing on
the watch to like unzip the girl'sdress. Oh my gosh, I know

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that was funny. Yeah, Ireally enjoyed it. I thought it was
really funny. Yeah. Um,I liked Roger Moore's Bond quite a bit.
I did too. Um, hestill really likes the ladies, but
he seems more classy. He doesa bit. He I love how he

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throws away his little his little quips. Yeah, like the like, oh
I think he got the point,like that sort of thing, like these
little puns. He says them almostlike he's ashamed to say them. And
I enjoy that. Yeah, Likethat's that's how it feels anyway. I
don't want to say this, butI have to. And I know what

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that's about me too, all right. So a trace on the killer's license
plate eventually leads Bond to Mister Big, a ruth was gangster who runs a
chain of restaurants throughout the United States. It is here that Bond first meets
Solitaire, a beautiful tarot reader whohas the power of the Obeah and can

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see both the future and remote eventsin the present. Mister Big demands that
his henchmen kill Bond, but Bondoverpowers them and escapes with the help of
CIA agent Strutter. Bond flees toSan Monique, where he meets Rosie Carver,
a CIA double agent. They meetup with Bond's friend Quarrel Junior,
who takes them by boat your Solitaire'shome. Bond suspects Rosie of working for

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Kananga, and she is killed byKananga to stop her confessing the truth to
Bond. Inside Solitaire's house, Bonduses the stacked deck of tarot cards that
show only the lovers to trick herinto thinking that fate is meant for them.
Bond then seduces her. Solitaire losesher ability to foretell the future when
she loses her virginity to Bond andshe decides to cooperate with him based upon

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both upon her attraction to him aswell as her having grown tired of being
controlled by Kananga. So this oneparagraph is like forty five minutes of the
movie. It really is. Solet's back up a little bit. Yeah,
that covers a lot of ground.I really I understand that this movie

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is controversial and that it does utilizea lot of elements of black explitation,
a lot of the stereotypes, andI'm not here to say those things are
good. But I am also hereto say that I grew up watching a
lot of black explitation films and notrealizing what was wrong with them and necessarily

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so like, you know, Iwould like hang out with my dad and
watch like, you know, likeShaft and Foxy Brown stuff like that.
You know. Yeah, and uh, I would watch a lot of that
kind of stuff. So, um, I don't know it just this movie
somewhat took me back to that alot, and I really enjoyed a lot

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of those elements, be they rightor wrong. Now, I dude,
I loved the opening bit with thethe New Orleans funeral procession. That was
awesome. Yeah, we didn't talkabout that, No, we didn't.
Um, that was really cool.Um. And it was really cool when
that one guy was like, who'sfuneral? Yeah, He's like yours,

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yours, Oh my gosh. Andthen they just like put the coffin over
him as they're walking and pick himup. Gosh. And I was like,
and then they do that same thinga second time later on in the
movie, and it's all the samepeople, and I'm like, oh my
gosh, all these people must bein on it. Yeah, Oh my
gosh, that's crazy. Yeah wow. Um. So yeah about Black Exploitation

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and just I guess I wanted tosay, I think it's kind of sidestepping
a little bit. I think it'sa really interesting because we have watched,
um about ten years worth of Bondand Bond type films, like what in
the last two or three months,Yeah, something like that. Um,

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and it is interesting to see itgo from the early sixties to the early
seventies. I feel like, Imean, I know, we've already seen
one other film from the sec seventies, but this one, I don't know
if it's because they were in NewOrleans and Harlem, um, well,
I mean, like the one fromseventy one was that was in Las Vegas,
right, But I don't know,this one just felt extremely seventies to

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me. It did very, veryvery seventies. Yeah, And I just
think that's interesting, Like there wasit's just such a big change from the
sixties and now, like, Idon't know, it's just such a big
change. So that's interesting. Yeah, it was all manner of like super
Fly and stuff like that. Itwas just that vibe. Yeah, it's
interesting. So I guess kind ofmaybe a general sense about black exploitation films

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is that it is definitely controversial.Like some people thought it was good because
that those types of films. Itwas supposed to be for like a more
it was supposed to appeal to amore African American audience. It was supposed
to be something for that culture insteadof just a bunch of stuff for white

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people, but also unfortunately reinforced alot of really negative stereotypes. Yes,
so on the one hand, peoplethought they were making films that were like,
hey, we have a more AfricanAmerican culture in here. We have
music that is a different type ofmusic. In these films. We have

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like like soul and funk and likesomething that we assume is more for an
African American type culture. We have, we have those kinds of things,
and like we have black people whoare the heroes and the sidekicks and the
villains and all of those things.But then on the other hand, like
you said, it was also like, yeah, but it's like the villains

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are like drug lords and like they'reyou know, like the goofy sidekicks,
and maybe it's not really a complimentarything the way we are portraying them.
Yeah, And so I don't Idon't know. I guess that um Live
and Let Die um might be splitin those two directions. Yeah, it

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is a little bit. It seemslike like the cab driver is just like
very very over the top, likestereotypical, uh black guy from the seventies.
Yeah. But like Kananga though,is like he does I mean,
like if you could, you couldjust recast him as Kelsey Grammer and I
wouldn't notice, Like like he's justvery like I don't know, like just

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almost like I don't, well,he's just ambiguous racially, I feel like
in this movie, right, Um, well then they yeah, so they
also um, maybe it's it's likea positive that here is a James Bond
film where there are a lot ofAfrican Americans in it. We're a lot

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of African American culture, Harlem,New Orleans, um, the Caribbean.
Yeah. Um. But then also, uh, now I know this is
still um based on the book obviously, um kind of barely apparently. Yeah.
Yeah. But so then on theother hand of that, it's like,

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all right, so we're taking astep back from Blowfeld Inspector and now
it's about drug lords, and sowe're going to have a lot of black
people in this film. Well,I mean and voodoo. Yeah, hugs
and voodoo. But you know,I understand those things are both are prevalent
in black sploitation films. But youknow, I have known, unfortunately several

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uh black people who believe in voodooand have some sort of connection to it
and are terrified of it, right, And I know that that's something that's
also a thing that's in New Orleans. Yeah, I was gonna say that
that is something that I mean,I don't I don't know from personal experience.
I really think I'm just mostly drawingfrom pop culture. Yeah, that

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seems to be something that is prettyprevalent in New Orleans. Yeah. Um,
but yeah, man, I sothere's that, and uh, you
know, unfortunately drugs are a real, a real issue in the black community.
Right So, I mean I'm notsaying this, you know there that's

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the only culture that it exists in. I'm just saying that is it is
a stereotype for a reason to somedegree, even if it's you know,
way overdone in these movies. Um. I was gonna say something else,
and I've lost my brain now,Um should I start saying if you want
to say something, go for it. Well, Uh, I'm gonna keep

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I'm gonna keep looking for a quote. I found a quote that I liked
on Wikipedia about black spolitation and I'mgonna I'm gonna keep looking for that.
I can't find it right now.Um. But I did want to say,
like about the music, Um Iuh so, the the composer for

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this one is George Martin, notJohn Barry, who composed the scores for
eleven Bond films. Right, Um, and George Martin. I looked him
up and he is referred to asthe fifth Beatle. Absolutely, yeah,
absolutely, And he died in twentysixteen. Paul McCartney said, if anyone

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earned the title of the fifth Beatle, it was George. Yeah. So
I think that's great that. Ithink it's awesome that he was in charge
of doing the score and that uhhe asked Paul McCartney to sing the song.
Actually, uh, let's see whowas at Saltzman and Broccoli contracted him
to write the song. Ye,and so Paul and Linda wrote live and

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let die. I looked up thelyrics for it. They probably wrote it
in about ten minutes, all right, because I was like, what are
the lyrics for this? Because Imean, I have known this song for
a long time, for a largepart of my life. I never knew
that it was this song happened becauseof this film. Yeah, and that's

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really cool. But yeah, Ilooked up the lyrics and I was like,
Okay, I guess I did knowmost of them. Yeah. Yeah,
there's not a whole lot to it, but still a great song.
Mmmmm. Now. One of thethings I think what I was gonna say,
He's like, yes, there aresome unabashed stereotypes here, but one
of the things I really like aboutthe movie is that, like, not
all of the black people in it, are just running around calling each other

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job turkey. Yeah, although theydid say honky several times. They did,
But that was the Harlem segments.Yes, Okay. Once they got
to New Orleans, it was adifferent culture. They took what seemed to
be great pains to like differentiate.Yeah, that's true. It wasn't just
like you're black, so you're gonnasay this weird shit. Yeah, Like,

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it was just like, this isthe this is the Harlem culture as
we understand it in Black Exploitation films. At the very least. I wasn't
around in Harlem in the seventies.I don't know what anybody was talking like.
I haven't been around in Harlem inany year. Yeah, I don't
think i've ever been. I've neverbeen to New York or Yeah. I

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just liked that there were at leastthree separate, distinct cultures that they represented.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.Yeah, And I found I found
the quote that I was looking for. All cool, all right, so
on Wikipedia. Literary critic Addison Galewrote in nineteen seventy four about Black exploitation.

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Here is freedom pushed to its mostridiculous limits. Here are writers and
actors who claim that freedom for theartist entails exploitation of the very people to
whom they oh their artistic existence.Hmm, well there you go. Yeah,
I thought that was interesting. Butyou know, those films, for

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all that that was wrong with them, they they contributed a great deal to
society. Like so many things areinfluenced by black exploitation films. Yeah,
um, so many really positive things. And even going back to the Austin
Powers films because we always have toreference those. Um, was it a
gold Member with Beyonce, Is Foxand Cleopatra? Yep, yep, yep.

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Absolutely yeah. So anyway, Idon't know where we were talking about.
Oh yeah, oh okay, soyeah Jane Seymour, Yes, Jane
Seymour um who we first meet inmister Biggs restaurant. Um. I love
that that wall that slid around yep, I love that. I love that

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the waiter brings him his drink andas he as he like turns behind the
door, like the waiters was likeall right, and it just starts like
sipping to drink himself. Man,I knew something was up with mister bing
That just did not look like areal person. He looked Yeah, he
looked weird. We said from thebeginning, this guy just looks weird.

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And I was really afraid because Idon't really look into this stuff. It
looked like he looked fake. Yeah, so I was really afraid it was
like a white dude pretending to bea black guy. Like. I was
really worried that it was something likethat. Yeah, A couple of things
went through my mind because I wasmade aware of JW. Pepper before,

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so I worried that J. W. Pepper was really mister Big. And
then I also worried that it wassomehow blow filled, oh my god,
or that was the insituation, becauseI know he shows up in another movie,
like whereas insinuated in another movie andlike I don't remember what it is.

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So I was afraid that it wouldbe like he rips the mask off
and Bond's like oh no, andthen like you see like almost like from
the back end, like a doctorevil looking fellow running away. Um.
I was yeah, I was,well, thank goodness, that was not
the case, right. I wasworried they were doing like a very elaborate
black face. Yeah. Um,I love seeing uh Jane Seymour, Yes,

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she was so young. I thinkprobably the youngest I have ever seen
her so well up up until nowwas just on doctor Quinn yep um.
That was over twenty years after this. But it was weird. Is like
I thought it was just because shewas young, but I was like,
I was not really connecting to hervoice. It was Nicky Vandersil doing a

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dub. Oh, Michael, wasn'treally Jane Seymore apparently, Oh my gosh,
why, I don't know. Idon't think she has a thick accent.
That is ridiculous, Yes it is. It was good to see Quarrel
Junior. It was good to seeQuarrel Junior. As I understand it,
it was actually Quarrel in the book. Oh, like the book takes place

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before doctor No. Okay, it'sthe second book, so like strange ways,
remember that professor guy that gets murdered. He was in Live and Let
Die, and um, Quarrel wasokay, And it was Quarrel who like
meets up with Bond and we meethim here and then we meet him again
and doctor No in the book.So like they made Quarrel Junior. So

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that would still well, that's aninteresting way to resolve that. Yeah,
I you know, I still wantthem to be like, you know,
explaining why Bond ever ages, buthey, whatever everybody around him, Bond
is aging drastically. Yeah. Um, hey, it's also great that we
have our first African American Bond girl, Yeah, who is in like two

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scenes and that's it. Yeah youwell, you know the way they wrote
it, the way they it wasoriginally intended to be swapped. Solitaire was
supposed to be black and Rosie wassupposed to be white, and because several
several countries had a problem with it, huh um for different reasons. I'll
get into a little bit of thatthe trivia, but basically they they came

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down to, like, we can'thave a main Bond girl be in an
interracial relationship with with Bond. Yep. It was literally against the law in
several places, so like they hadto swap it out. That's crazy.
And then they they had to alsocut the scene where he and uh Rosie

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wind up together before she killed yep. Wow. Anyway, Um, also,
uh, dude, good job Rosie, like you know, for like
working out and stuff and like,dude, yeah, taking care of herself.
Gosh, geez, didn't I wasn'tit her where I was like,
good, gosh, look at thatwoman's arms. Yeah, that's really nice

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arms she did. Yeah, soI her character was cool. Too bad
she wasn't in it for very long. Yeah I was. I was interested
in where she was coming from.Yeah, but whatever. Sorry. I
never expect Bond girls to last verylong. At not the first one anyway.
Yeah. So um, Bond andSolitaire escape by boat and fly to

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New Orleans. Their Bond is capturedby Mister Big, who removes his prosthetic
face and is revealed to Beat Kananga. He has been producing heroin and is
protecting the poppy fields by exploding thesan Monique locals fear of voodoo priest Baron
Samadi as well as the occult.Through his alter ego, Mister Big Kananga
plans to distribute the heroine free ofcharge at his restaurants, which will increase

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the number of addicts. He intendsto bankrupt other drug dealers with his giveaway,
then charge high prices for his heroinelater in order to capitalize on the
huge drug dependencies he has cultivated.Yep angry at her for having sex with
Bond and that her ability to readtarot cards is now gone. Kananga turned

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Solitaire over to Baron's Semite to besacrificed. Meanwhile, Cananga's henchman one arm
t He and Tweed jacketed Adam leaveBond to be eaten by crocodiles at a
farm in the deep South backwoods.Bond escapes by running along the animals backs
to safety as setting a drug laboratory. Sorry. After setting out the drug
laboratory on fire, he steals aspeedboat and escapes, pursued by Cananga's men

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under Adam's order as well as aswell as Sheriff J. W. Pepper
and the Louisiana State Police. Mostpursuers get wrecked or left behind, and
Adam does not survive Bond's strike.Oh yeah, so okay, let's talk
about um verse. Let's talk aboutBond and his little trick to with Solitaire.

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Yeah, with the cards, right, which was funny for a second,
and then once she mentions it asa physical violation, I felt really
bad. Yeah, that whole thingwas. That was weird. So he
like robs her of her ability,which, by the way, I love
this movie is just like not tryingto explain away the supernatural elements that have

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never been in Bond before, right, Yeah, and she even says like
that's what happened with her grandmother andher mother too. Yeah, well obviously
she's there, but know that likethey had to do it at some point
that they lost their abilities when theylost their virginity also, but yeah,

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yeah, it seems less flirtatious andmore like leaning toward like not really a
great direction. Yeah, like sheshe apparently it seems like she agreed to
get down with Bond because the cardsrecurred and told her she had to.

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She was destined to, right.She thought this was like she thought she
was fulfilling her destiny, except thecard he didn't control the card that was
back at mister Biggs. So theyhad, you know, said that something's
going to happen between those two basically, and then he just tricked her into
proving that. Right. But andthen she unfortunately referred to it as a

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physical violation. But then like fiveseconds later turned around was like show me
more. Yeah, so yeah,I don't know, I kind of had
conflicting feelings about that. Yeah,it seemed like a violation. I'm sure
Bond just thought he was doing hisnormal like get the ladies kind of thing.

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Yeah, probably he wasn't. I'msure he didn't know all of this
stuff about she's going to lose herpowers, it's her destiny, she's a
virgin. I'm sure he didn't knowall of that, but I'm not I
think he probably knew some of that. Yeah, Like I'm not. I'm
not sure how he would have acteddifferently had he known all that. I
don't think he would have. Butyeah, Also, where did you get

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all those cards? I don't know, but he just like buy a pack
of them. Did he buy likefifty two packs of that specific tarot card?
That's the that's the deleg thing.I want. I want to see
the scene where he goes to theto like some little supernatural shops from a
cult store and like buys fifty twopacks of or however many cards there are

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on a tarot deck. Yeah,and like buys that many cards and then
sits in his room smoking a cigarand like make an entire deck of just
the lovers. Yeah. But Imean, you know, she she did
say that she she didn't want tokeep working for Kananga, that's right,

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and she I don't know if shehad grown scared of him or if she
was scared of him because she hadlost her abilities. Well, there was
also I think she was scared ofhim from the get go. Yeah,
but there's a line there where Kanangamentioned her mother her the same thing like

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he was around. The dude thatplayed him was only thirty three at the
time, but the character was apparentlyaround way before because like he mentions,
like, yo, yo, thesame thing happened to your mom. Dude,
how old is you because you lookyoung as hell. Yeah, and
you're over here talking about like,oh yeah, your mom. And also

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when he's like telling her like Iwould have given you love at the appropriate
time, you knew that. I'mlike, did you give her mom?
Mom? Are you her dad?Oh? My god? What is happening?
Yeah? Anyway, all of thatwas some sketchy stuff. It was
all sketchy and creepy, and Iwas angry with him. Yeah, and
I was like, dude, shedon't have to I mean, why don't

(33:12):
you gotta have your thing? No? Yeah, And like baby Jane Seymour
like barely over five feet tall andI think at the time was like twenty
three and really just looks like achild in many ways. Yes, yeah
me other ways, Yeah, girl, she was not fully clothed at all

(33:32):
times anytime. Every time she wason the screen, we were like,
shoo, shoo, the doctor wasin. That's doctor Quinn, doctor Mike.
All right. So, um,I love the speedboat, I love
the chase. I'm so sorry.I know people are gonna not like this,

(33:59):
and I don't know. Maybe he'sa lot more racist than I thought
he was. I did cringe alot when he called a lot you know
a lot of black guy's boy.But then he called like ten of the
white guy's boy. Yeah, soI was just like, And to be
honest, I've known a lot ofyou know, white guys like that who
call everybody boy. Yeah. Idon't generally like those people. Yeah,

(34:23):
Sheriff J. W. Pepper,Yes, I have an uncle who seems
to not be able to remember myname. But every time he introduces me
to his wife when we run intoeach other, wal murder, what have
you? He always says, thisis a Jerry's bay. Um. Yeah,
I hated him, dude. Yeah, I know you hated him,

(34:45):
the sheriff, not your uncle.No, you don't know your uncle,
and neither do I really. OhI hated him, man. Yeah.
Now, to be fair he mayhave said, had some incredibly racist things
I could not understand about well,at best, I couldn't understand half of

(35:07):
what he was saying between his extremelythick Southern accent and that freaking chewing tobacco
that was constantly in his mouth thatyou could see sometimes, yeah, inside
his mouth. It was like listeningto somebody. It was like Southern fried
stroke. It was really mad,and there was so much going on with

(35:31):
the boat chases. But the boatchases. The boat dude, it made
it felt like the Blues Brothers tome, it did. I can see.
It felt so much like the BluesBrothers, and I did really enjoy
and he was like talking about he'slike my brother and I got the Fashi
food, Oh my god. Andhey, they're like, I don't think

(35:57):
that's Willie. I don't know.And and with at the end of the
boat chase, when he like whenhe like shows up and like all those
other cops and FBI and CIA andeverybody are there, and he like walks
up with his little handcuted like,oh boy, what I use from kind
of dooms Day machine? And they'relike, yeah, we're gonna have to

(36:22):
talk to you. JW they pullhim aside. That was one of the
most gratifying things for me, Like, I loved it so much that they
had to be like, well,he's an anglister and he's working with our
boys. He's some kind of asecret agent and he's like Foshod. I

(36:44):
enjoyed all that I shouldn't have,but I did. And if if you
know, any of you guys outthere were watching uh Sheriff Pepper with captions
on and he said some truly uhrace his things. I did hear one
thing that I cringed at, butit also made me chuckle because it was

(37:07):
so weird. He referred to allof the black gangsters running around after Bond
as black Russians. He's like,we got a bunch of black Russians out
here. I'm like, what areyou talking about? What does that mean?
Russians? What's weird? Hey,you know, I wasn't around the

(37:28):
seventies, and maybe that was athing. Uh, I mean, that
almost seems more like something that wouldhave been said in the eighties. Yeah,
that's weird. But hey, ifhe did say a bunch of racist
stuff, it's not like they portrayedhim as a good guy. Yeah.
No, he was an antagonist atat you know best. Yeah, so
give him that. Oh, thecrocodile stuff was fun too. The crocodile

(37:52):
stuff was fun and I didn't realizeit was real. Wow, Like the
stunt guy, the guy that ownedthe plays the crocodile farm actually attempted.
He actually ran across the crocodile andit was five times that he had to
do because he kept following, andhe had to have like stitches on his
leg and stuff and on his facebecause the crocodiles kind of attacking him when

(38:13):
he fell. Terrifying, Yeah,terrifying, but felt like that day of
work and stitches. He got sixtythousand dollars and them's is nineteen seventy three
dollars. Yeah, I'll I'd haveto think about it very hard. Please,
I'll think about it for about fiveseconds. I will think about it

(38:36):
for much longer, all right.So anyway, Bond travels to San Monique
and sets timed explosives throughout the poppyfields. He rescues Solitaire from the voodoo
sacrifice and throws some made into acoffin of Venomon snakes. Bond and Solitaire
escape below ground to do Cananga's layer, because everybody's got to have a layer.
Yeah, in a mono rail anda monorails. Nanga Kananga captures them

(39:01):
both and proceeds to lower them intoa shark tank. But they didn't have
fucking laser beams. Part the unnecessarilyslow moving dick dipping dicking mechanism. No,
Bond is the unnecessarily slowly dicking mechanism. He's the no way, He's
the unnecessarily fast moving dicking mechanism.You're anyway. However, Bond escapes and

(39:34):
forces Kananga to swallow a compressed gaspellet used in shark guns, causing his
body to inflate and explode. Thatwas ridiculous. That was like my favorite
thing ever. It was so dumb. It was so dumb and hilarious.
And as soon as like Kananga shotone into the couch, I was just

(39:58):
like, oh, oh no.And then I thought this could go a
couple of different ways. It couldgo with like, oh, Canange's got
it inside of him and he's likeoh, and then we just see out
an explosion, right Uh, hejust has like a really big poop.
Yeah. I did not expect itto go the way it went where he

(40:19):
flies up into the air and he'sfully inflated, like a like a I
was gonna say, like a hotair balloon, but it wasn't really like
that. It was it was doyou remember the Joker's balloons when they started
filling up with gas. Yeah,in the nineteen eighty nine Batman movie with
Nicholson, and they just got reallylike way over inflated and the gas.
That's what he looked like, exceptit was like way faster and he exploded

(40:42):
and it did not look great.Yeah, it looked awful, but it
was like my favorite, yeah thingin the movie. Pretty funny. It
was hilarious. Um anyway, Lighterputs Bond in Solitaire on a train leaving
the country tee. He sneaks aboardan attempts to kill Bond, but Bond
cuts the wires of his prosthetic armand throws him out of the window.

(41:05):
As the film ends, I laughing, So Made is revealed to be perched
on the front of the speeding train. Yeah, sixteen hour long train.
That's right now. I want tosay this because I didn't say it before.
I loved the opening credits. Yes, the flaming skulls. Yeah.
I loved, like how Cananga's laughingface turned into the flaming skull again.

(41:25):
Yeah, I loved all of that, and it seemed like Live and Let
Die, like especially the bob thatwent really well with the opening credit.
Yes, they still had several likechase sequences and stuff without any music,
and fight sequences and stuff without anymusic. But I really really enjoyed.

(41:49):
I really enjoyed the score. Ireally loved how the Live and Let Die
song was integrated into the score.I thought this was the best music of
anything we've seen so far. Yeahit might this might be in your trivia
notes already, but this is thefirst rock song to open upon film.
I don't think I put it inthere, but yeah, that's all it.
Um. Now, having said allof that, I like, I

(42:12):
think this song is great. Iagree with you that it went really well
with the film. And again,like I didn't know until we started doing
this podcast that the song that Iknow Live and Let Die is because of
this film. That's super cool.Um. But going with all of the
black exploitation stuff and how like differentstyles of music were used for those films,

(42:37):
I almost feel like maybe some ofthat should have been incorporated maybe instead
of Paul McCartney wings. Yeah,that has occurred to me. Yeah,
but you know, I feel likethey were like, oh, I know,
let's do the black thing like everybody'sdoing. Well, not too black,

(42:57):
it's still Bond. Yeah, We'lljust kind of what's a happy medium
between like British music or jazz orwhatever it is that we have James Bond
listens to and you know, funkand and R and B and stuff.
I know, Paul McCartney, Let'shave Paul and Linda write a song.

(43:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean therewas there was some of that, like
New Orleans music when they were inthe funeral. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, that was great. Bythe way, that was that's a
real thing. Like the dude,the main guy leading the procession was actually
does that or did that for aliving Well, I mean that's interesting.

(43:42):
I guess I'm just thinking of itin terms of like what happened in the
film. Yeah, and they're havinghis funeral and they did they did like
in the in the jazz bar whenthey had the ladies singing, uh let
die. That's true. One ofthe producers have got in the notes wanted
her to do the opening and PaulMcCartney and Wings. Paul McCartney told him,

(44:05):
you can't have the song unless wedo it. Oh wow. I
mean from a business standpoint, Iunderstand that, yeah, obviously, as
I like his version way better.Yeah, but it's his song. It's
his and Linda's song. I'm gladshe still got to do it, absolutely,
as I really liked that version.Yeah, but I don't know,
I don't know. The way theyhave the funeral, I don't know.

(44:30):
That's kind of a neat way tosee someone off, you know, to
like start out morning and then justcelebrate. Yeah, that's kind of cool.
Yea. You know, I'm notsaying that they had voodoo in that
part of it, but I don'tremember they're being voodoo in that specific part
of it. Yeah, you know, that's kind of a cool way to
do a funeral. Yeah, yeah, all right. So do you think

(44:53):
this is a good introduction to JamesBond? I think it is. Yeah,
I kind of don't because it islike the sorry, the antagonist,
not the protagonists. The antagonists areso completely different than most of the Bond
villains that we've gotten. That's true, Um, there weren't Yeah, you

(45:13):
do have like the Bond girl formula, and you have the quips, you
have you know, the action.That's fine, that all makes sense.
It's just you know, some ofit is is so out there for a
Bond movie, right. Um.Yeah, I guess I did appreciate that
it kind of veered away from likethe same old stuff. But I a

(45:34):
little bit. I loved that itveered away from the same old stuff.
Yeah. I didn't care about youknow, the weirdo like overblown, convoluted
bullcrap blowfeld did I I was.I was glad we didn't have that again,
right that we just had a guywho's like, I'm gonna get everyone
addicted to crap? Right cool?That seems like a good call, all

(45:58):
right, buddy, that's I mean, that's a horrid along. But yeah
hashtag ambition based on this movie,would you want to keep watching the franchise?
I think so? Um this thisis not my favorite Bond film.
Um. I won't say I lovedit. I would say for me,

(46:19):
it was mediocre, but it wasn'tbad enough to where I would not want
to keep watching fair enough. AndI think Roger Moore is a good Bond
Yeah. Um, based on thismovie. I like, I have This
movie reinvigorated me, so I woulddefinitely want to keep watching the franchise after
this one. Um, would yourecommend this movie to anyone you love?
Maybe? I don't know. Ican't. I can't say a strong yes

(46:44):
or no. Okay, I meanI would probably say it's fun, but
it's ridiculous, right, I wouldstill recommend it. I would probably say,
oh, you know, you canwatch it. It's not great,
but it's not the worst of them. All right, let's get to some
favorite quotes that we didn't get toduring our previous conversation here. Oh yeah,

(47:07):
we haven't really talked about quotes thatmuch. Um. Yeah, Now,
I loved when he had undress herwith the with the magnet yeah,
and she says such a delicate touch, and he says she had magnetism,
darling. I loved that. Thatwas hilarious. Um. The cab driver
says, hey, you know whereyou're going, man, James Bond says,

(47:27):
uptown. I believe uptown. Youheaded into Harlem. Man. He
says, well, you just stayon the tail of that jukebox and there's
an extra twenty in it for you. And the cab driver says, hey,
man, for twenty bucks, I'dtake you to a ku Klux Klan
cook out. Good gosh, Ilaughed really hard at Oh my gosh,

(47:49):
but that twenty bucks that there isnineteen seventy three dollars, So thirty dollars.
I don't know, forty I don'tknow. I don't know. Oh
geez. That guy was like justa silly, goofy guy though, Yeah,
just like didn't take anything that seriously. We saw him a couple of

(48:10):
times, didn't we. It wasn'tjust that one time. Yeah, we
saw him a couple of times.Yeah. Boy. So let's see.
UM already talked about all the J. W. Pepper doomsday machine stuff.
Can we just acknowledge that t HeJohnson his name? Was that his name

(48:30):
in the book. I think so, But I don't know t he Johnson.
I don't know. It's ridiculous.I have no idea. Oh my
gosh, I don't remember. Imean, like t he kind of seems
appropriate and kind of funny. Butthen to also give him a last name,
well, t he Johnson. I'msure that was like a nickname,
you know. Yeah. I don'tthink his mother like that I'm gonna name

(48:52):
him t he maybe though maybe though, I don't know, but still like
he had a nickname. But thenthey still give him a last name too.
I don't know. It's just silly. I love when Solitaire asked him
if they had time for less thannumber three before they leave, and he
says absolutely, there's no sense goingout half cock. When Rosie found the

(49:16):
hat in her bedroom that had thefeathers on it, and she screamed,
and Bond says, why it's justa hat, darling, evidently belonging to
a small headed man of limited meanswho lost a fight with a chicken.
Yeah, that was amazing, thatwas great. Um, mister Big says,

(49:38):
what shall we drink too, MisterBond, James says, as the
overweight whisper approaches with drinks, well, how about an earthquake? Oh my
gosh, that's awful. It isreally bad. And I didn't I didn't
get it. I didn't get itat I didn't get it at first,
and then I was like, Ithink he just made a fat joke.

(49:59):
Jeez. Rosie at some point saysI should have never gotten into any of
this. I'm going to be completelyuseless. To you, and Bond says,
well, I'm sure we'll be ableto lick you into shape. That
is not okay, that is nasty. It's not nasty, it's just inappropriate.

(50:19):
It is inappropriate nasty. Um,where's Kananga? He always did have
an inflated opinion of himself. Ohlord. Oh. When he throws the
prosthetic arm from the train window,Solitaire says, now, what are you
doing? He says, just beingdisarming darling. By the way, something

(50:42):
I always wonder, like, orI've wondered in the last few episodes of
movies. You kill off the mainbad guy, what does it What does
it benefit the hinchman to go afterBonds after? That's true? Are they
just getting revenge? Maybe he didn'tknow that Kananga was dead yet, I
mean maybe, but yeah, maybeyeah, maybe it was revenge. I

(51:07):
don't know. Yeah, I'm justalways wondering, like, your guy's gone,
he's dead. There's no reason foryou to be here. You're going
to die for no reason. OhI did love all of the things um
the guy did with uh with hishook, like just all of the different
things that he'd scratched and cut thatt oh, okay, yeah, the

(51:31):
guy. I just I loved everythinghe did with it. That was pretty
funny. Yeah, that was.But it was just like, oh,
do you want to cut the powerte he will tap it with his hook
and that will make all of thepower everywhere go out, which was funny
because I was like, Oh,he's gonna snip a wire or something.
Instead like he just touches it insparks fly and I'm like, yeah,

(51:53):
it was an adamantium hook. Allright, man, what was your favorite
scene? My favorite scene was aboat chase stuff me do, even though
it had pepper in it. Yeah. Asked me what my least favorite scene
was. What was your least favoritescene? My least favorite scene was a
boat chase stuff because it really Ireally do think that that there were some

(52:20):
other great scenes too, but Ireally do think that. I mean as
far as like me and you justlooking at each other and going what is
happening or just laughing or like,oh my gosh, what They drove a
boat on top of the cop carand somebody else was like what was it?
Somebody was driving by and was like, well, that's just a boat

(52:43):
on top of a cop car sellingor something. Oh no, he was
like, is that a boat ontop of the car And it's like where
you been all your life? Boy, don't you notice one of them new
car boat? And then J.W. Pepper tells him that he's common
during the vessel and he's like,that means you smart assn I liked Pepper

(53:06):
to some degree. Yeah, yeah, so I mean that. God,
the boat chase stuff was so solong. It was very long, but
it was a lot of fun.It was funny. Yeah, it was
ridiculous. I mean, just likea couple of the boats like flying over
land and flying over or just youknow, going over all kinds of stuff
going like up and over like ridgesand hills, and somehow Bonds boat was

(53:31):
able to clear everything, but theother boats weren't. Yeah, there was
just a lot happening and it wasall really funny. It was for real
though. They had a stunt guydoing that, and they had like souped
up Bonds boat. Now the boatlanding on the cop car wasn't supposed to
happen, and then they rewrote partof the script to accommodate it. Oh

(53:53):
wow, but yeah, they thestunt guy actually jumped the thing and the
whole thing. Yeah, whoa,So my favorite scene I have three,
okay, or like, I likethe entire as far as the entire scene,
the boat chase sequence is my favorite. My favorite singular moment is Cananga
blowing up because it was just sostupid. Yeah, and then like just

(54:16):
as sort of like a secondary favoritesingular moment, not the entire sequence,
but just bonding that plane and thelady that he was riding with, seeing
him going towards those doors and justgoing holly shitt. That was just funny
to me. Least favorite scene JW. Pepper all that. Yeah,

(54:40):
okay, I don't know. Miley'sfavorite scene was. I enjoyed. I
enjoyed this movie quite a bit.Yeah, so I it's gonna be hard
for me to come up with aleast favorite scene necessarily. Um, I
don't know. I don't know.I really liked the movie. Yeah,

(55:01):
well good, I'm sorry. Iknow what I mean. It makes me
a bad person somehow, why,I don't know. It's okay, if
you liked it because stereotypes and blackexploitation, that's why it makes me bad.
You're not saying he wiped it becauseyou like drug lords or something,
you know, But I mean Idon't know, I'm not pro stereotyping.

(55:22):
Yeah, but it was a reallyfun movie to me. Yeah, I'm
sorry so bad about it. Imean there were there were, for sure
black stereotypes in this movie, butwas there actually just like blatant racism?
I mean I was. I wasshocked when that when the cab driver mentioned

(55:42):
going to the Ku Klux Klan cookout. Yeah, which, God,
how many takes do you think ittook him to get that right? I
don't know, that's a tough thingto say. Yeah, but I was
shocked when he said that. Ilove the dude who said that Bond was
not even trying to go into Harlemdisguised and they say it's like followed a
que ball and I'll do that.I laugh so hard. That was so

(56:04):
funny. Um yeah, man,Uh, what do you hope to see
going forward? Um? I don'tknow. I mean, like just I'm
I'm interested to see, uh whatRoger Moore contributes to this character. Um.
You know, I'm also kind ofinterested. I mean, like he's

(56:25):
Bond for what the next ten years? Yeah worth of movies or six more
movies anyway. Yeah, I'm honestly, I'm kind of interested to see what
he looks like in his last film, if he's already forty six years old,
although he does look younger at fortysix than Sean Connery looked. Um
and diamonds are forever, Yeah hedoes so. Um yeah, all right,

(56:49):
Oh, so what rating are yougonna give it? You know,
I kind of struggle with this alittle bit because I did not like it
as much as you did. Uhhuh. Sometimes it was still kind of
hard for me to get through it. It was a two hour long movie
that once again I kind of feltcould have been a little bit shorter,
at least by fifteen twenty minutes.I don't know, it's just there,

(57:14):
there wasn't enough happening or like enoughcontent that I was interested in seeing to
not keep checking the time to seewhen it was gonna be over, mum,
but also like there to be fairthough. You do that with every
single thing we watch. Yeah,yeah, I do that sometimes, you

(57:34):
know. Sometimes I do it though, like when we're watching Doom Patrol.
I will do that to be like, oh how much is left? Oh
god, only five minutes? Isee. That bugs me because I'm just
like, no, if it endson a if it's just gonna go to
cut to black and be like what, I want to be surprised about it.
I want to be engrossed at itand then just be like shocked when
it ends. Yeah, I'm sorry. And then you're just like constantly checking,

(57:59):
and I'm like, I don't.I don't always what I check to
see how much time has left.I'm not always checking to see how much
more do I have to endure.I'm sometimes if it's something I really like,
I'm checking to see how much moreI get to watch. Yeah,
that was not the case with thisone. Yeah, but I don't.
I don't. I don't like thateither. Sorry. It's like these people

(58:20):
who it's like your sister who wantsto like, well, how does it
end? I have to make sureit has a happy ending. That's not
Christiana. That's the other I didn'twant to give names. But yeah,
it's like, no, we needto specify. It is not the one
people have heard. That's right.It's not like Tamra will be like,
well does it have a happy ending? Tell me how it ends? Dude.

(58:42):
Yeah, she wants like the happyHollywood ending, and she will spoil
herself. Now I know that's howsome people watch movies. I've been listening
to and absolutely loving Fake Doctors RealFriends with Zach and Donald, and Donald
has said that is what he willdo with TV shows. He will watch
the finale, the series finale todetermine if he wants to invest in watching

(59:08):
the entire show. So I knowthere's some special people who incorrectly watch things
like that. I have done thaton accident. Yeah, and then like
that was fantastic to everything that's leadingup to that, but yeah, ta
Tara doesn't like to watch things unlessthey have a sweet, happy ending and

(59:30):
none of the main characters or secondarycharacters die. But you know, like
and that's fine. Those are thethings that she wants to watch. Dave
and I are like, let mewatch something where I can feel things.
Yeah, and it's not always justoverwhelming joy because everyone is happy. I'm
okay. If it's frustration because theyloved it ambiguous, I'm okay. If

(59:52):
it's you know, crying because importantpeople die, right who we grew to
love. Yeah, I'm down,all yeah, yeah, like one of
Now, I watched every single episodeof Bones and I love that show,
but I also had problems with itand one of My biggest problems is that

(01:00:14):
in their line of work, um, I found it highly improbable that so
few people died, and that spoilersfor Bones if you haven't watched it.
Well, I don't give big spoilersfor Bones. None of the core people
died. I mean that's not reallya spoiler, no, sort of,

(01:00:36):
it's a kind of but like noneof the core people died, and that
some of them almost did. Butyou know, like Matt at a Marvel
Cinematic Universe podcast says, often therewere no steaks. Yeah. So yeah,
anyway, I don't even how didwe get there. I don't know.
Those are feelings we have we Ohyeah? My rating two point seven

(01:01:00):
five flaming crocodiles out of five twopoint seven five. Yep, wow,
I gave something else that rating aswell. Okay, I don't remember,
but okay, I give it threecustomized atle like Jane Seymour lover Tarot cards.
Nice. Uh so what does that? What does that bring on your

(01:01:23):
ranking? How does that as thatfair? Okay, it's gonna be difficult
again. Okay, Number one absolutelydoctor no, yep, still for sure.
Number two for sure on Her Majesty'sSecret Service huh. Number three,
you're looking at my list. I'mlooking. That means we agree, you

(01:01:45):
go okay, okay, I needto look at I need to look at
a list so I'll remember all themovies. Okay. Um, now here's
here's where I struggled. Uh,it looks like we came to the same
conclusion. Oh really, my numberthree is Goldfinger, but I wasn't sure.

(01:02:07):
I really had to think about ifI liked Live and Let Die more
than Goldfinger or not. Yeah.I do still like Goldfinger more, and
I ranked Goldfinger a three. SoI can't rank Live and Let Die a
three. You can't. No,I don't want to. I didn't like
it as much. I mean,yeah, but you know I gave I

(01:02:28):
Let Goldfinger slightly more than Live andLet Die, but I ranked them both
of three. Yeah, you knowthat's fine. So I ranked from Russia
with love no way. Oh,shoot, you only live twice. I
ranked that one at two point sevenfive. Okay, Um? So okay,
Yeah, So my number four,number four, Live and Let Die
h number five you only live twice, gotcha? And your number six is

(01:02:52):
from Russia. Yes, you don'tseem happy with that as you're saying it.
I'm trying to did I like diamondsare forever more than from Russia?
No, okay, from Russia,then diamonds are forever, then Thunderball and
then due to Royale, which ispretty close to what you rank. Yeah.

(01:03:15):
I have Doctor Noah's number one onHer Majesty's Secret Services, number two,
number three, just barely hanging onto number three his gold finger number
four, Live and Let Die,which even as you were discussing it,
I was contemplating moving Live and LetDie up to number three. Yeah.
For me, where I'm having troubleis do I like Live and Let Die

(01:03:38):
more than you only live twice?I might change my mind. I don't
know. Those are really close forme. Last night, as I was
making the ranking, I almost putLive and Let Die is number two?
What? Yeah, yeah, Icouldn't do the least. You apologize to
odd jobs right now? I mean, why, how dare you? Why
I should apologize to tell Y savalishim as well? What is this voice?

(01:04:00):
I don't know? Shame? Howdare you? Did I kill your
father? Should I prepare to die? What is this voice? That's how
you say? How dare you?Okay? How dare you? All right?
I try to say it a differentway, how dare you? Oh,
that's a good one. So Iwent with thee why I never clutch

(01:04:29):
my pills? Yeah, which everytime I hear any anybody go, why
I never? I always hear fredStanford going. And at this rate you
never will. I love Sanford Sonso much, so much of like Red
Fox is just in my head allday sometimes. Um, I'm sorry I

(01:04:50):
interrupted your list. It's okay,all right. So on Her Majesty SUPERSERVI
number two, number three, goldFinger, number four, Live and Let
Die, number five from Russia withlove, number six You've only live twice,
Number seven, Diamonds Are Forever,eight Thunderball and nine Casino Royal sixty

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seven. So yeah, and Idid. I struggled. I almost want
to. I wanted to put Liveand Let Die number two, and then
I couldn't do it to last andbe I couldn't do it to tell y
Savalas. I've just liked them toomuch. See, that would have been
that would have been interesting just becauseof like the weird technical part of my
brain where you would have had numberone with Connery on Her Majesty's Secret service

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with a different with a different guy, and then number three would have been
a different guy. Yeah, yourtop three would have been three different bonds.
And look, you know, theway my brain works, I might
change that up at some point andit might become that the more, the
more, the more I think aboutstuff like that, Like the more is
just like this is the different dayof the week. Yeah, like now

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it's changed. Yeah, which ispart of the fun of ranking them every
week? Yep. Should we talkabout trivia? All right? So this
had a budget of seven million,same as diamonds are forever. I think
that one was a seven point sevenor seven point two. But yeah,
this had seven million dollar budget.It grows twe hundred and sixty one point
eight million, man. So theprofit margin, the net profit margin was

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ninety five point sixty five percent.The net profit was one hundred and fifty
four million, one hundred thousand,and the profit percentage was two thousand,
two hundred and one point forty threepercent. Crazy, crazy, so crazy,
Here's no, here's what's crazy.Sean Connery turned down the sum of

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five point five million, oh my, which would have been thirty two million
in two thousand, nineteen dollars.I love that. Do you have do
you have anyone in your family whowould like tell you like, oh,
yay, babe, I was gotout of the you know, I went
on furlough there in the military,and the went and got me a tattoo
and it cost me a twenty fivedollars. Now this was nineteen forty dollars.

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That you gotta say the year themwas insert year dollars. I don't
have a NORM in my family,but I feel like in mind, in
mind, they had them oh sodomboys. But yeah, I feel like
if there's anyone in my family whowould have done that, it would have
been my grandfather. Yeah, minetoo. Yeah, yeah, I've had

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a few people who who I've hadsome uncles. Yeah, yeah, you
know, they don't do the normvoice and the swift in my head.
Well, I hate I hate thevoices they actually uses, like yeah,
the tell you something boys, theyamna tell you something boy. You got
a boy, everybody's balls fallen outof your mouth. Yeah, it is.

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It's just like it's like it's likeit's like they put an oyster in
your mouth and didn't like it.Bar and then like they see my sister,
like, hug girl, How youdid girl come over here and give
me a hug? Girl? Like, yeah, that's right. We live

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in the South and we hate Southernaccents. We really do, all right,
so h yeah, so Sean Connery, he did playing Bond so much
at this point, and also,apparently, according to Zardaws in nineteen seventy
four, needed money so bad.The man was looking to branch out.
Uh, needed money so badly.He did that film but turned down five

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and a half million. Yeah that'show much he hated playing point. That's
right, Yeah he did. Hedid give his personal seal of approval to
Roger Moore and called him an idealBond. Wow. Yeah, well that's
nice. That seems humble unless dependingon the tone of voice. Yea.
The producers offered Clint Eastwood the role, and Clint said he was flattered but

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declined, saying that Bond should beportrayed by an English actor. He was
fresh off of Dirty Harry. Younever seen Dirty Harry. That was a
good one. The big big bodycount. We need to watch that.
No, there's a lot of bodieswho were dead. I was making a
joke me too. I was justgoing along with it. Oh, I

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I'm sorry, it's fun. Ilike big bodies. No, we're not
doing it again. Ross Kananga,credited as the stunt coordinator, was the
owner of the alligator and crocodile farmin which Bond escapes some hungry crocs.
Kananga did this stunt by himself wearingmister Roger Moore's clothes and shoes made of
crocodile skin. The crocodile shoes werea fun idea that Roger Moore gave them.

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During the fourth attempt, one ofthe crocodile snapped at one of the
shoes as it went by. Ina nineteen seventy three interview, he explained,
something like that is almost impossible todo, so I had to do
it six times before I got itright. I fell five times. The
film company kept sending to London formore clothes. The crocs were chewing off
everything when I hit the water,including shoes. I received one hundred and

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ninety three stitches on my leg andface. The producers, while scouting locations,
first took notice of mister Cananga's farmfrom the sign out front warning trespassers
will be that's amazing tresh passage willbe eaten. The sign can be seen
in the film. They liked Canangaso much they used his surname for the
film's villain, Doctor Kananga Awesome,and he received sixty thousand dollars for the

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stunt. Heck, yeah, andnim was nineteen seventy three dollars. What
is the thing that YouTubers say cointintthat sounds filthy? You know how people
you know, you just heard it, didn't you. Yeah, my apologies.
You know how people like to endwords and teas now no period period?

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Okay, yeah, I know.Roger Moore suffered an energy energy injury
during the boat chase. The enginecut out and the momentum carried him into
a boathouse. He cracked some ofhis front teeth and twisted his knee.
He had to walk on a canefor several days afterwards, and was still
able to complete the scene because allhe had to do was sit in a

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boat. Wow. According to PaulMcCartney, after director Guy Hamilton heard the
title song in its release, hesaid, Yeah, that's good for a
demo, but when are you goingto do the real record? Oh my
damn, that's rough. That's abeatleful or a wing that's a feather.

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Oh my gosh. I mean theproducers made a conscious decision to make Roger
Moore's Bond significantly different from Connery's andthis film, Bond never orders a vodka
martini but drinks bourbon whiskey, eatno ice. The mission briefing occurs in
his flat, not the office,only the second time Bond's apartment is featured
in the movies, after an appearancein Doctor no Bond does not wear a

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hat. He smoked cigars instead ofcigarettes. Uh yeah, I missed the
cigarettes. According to Yafat Kado,he was not allowed to do any press
for this movie, nor was heallowed to attend the premiere. Which one
was he? He was the villain, he was Kananga, Oh my gosh.
Kato states the producers told him theywere afraid of the public's reaction to

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the villain being black. Oh mygoodness, and miss some crap it is,
so they just instead decided to justperpetrate, just like the negative things
that people thought about black people.Perpetrate or perpetuate. Yep, that one.
Okay, I missed a syllable.Yeah that really stinks, man,

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I mean really like it was arole. Yeah, he's an actor.
If he thought people were gonna havea negative action to the villain being black,
then why did he cast a blackman as a villain. Yeah,
that's ridiculous. It was frustrating.That's frustrating. I can only imagine how
frustrating it was for that guy.I'm sorry. The boat chase through the

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Bayou was originally written in the scriptas just quote scene one fifty six,
the most terrific boat chase You've everseen boats Sorry. Bond speedboat jump made
it into the Guinness World the GuinnessBook of World Records for his distance and
of Sorry of one hundred and tenfeet thirty three and a half meters,
a record that stood for three years. Clifton james spontaneous reaction in that scene

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was kept in the final print.Clifton James was JW. I believe j
W. Pepper, Oh thank you. Bond. Stunt boat used to make
the high jump over Sheriff Pepper's carwas Sorry, specially designed with redistributed weight
so it would fly through the airwith more stability. The second boat was
not scripted to collide with the policecar, but after the has happened while

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shooting the stunt, they changed thescript to accommodate it only James Bond movie
with Roger Moore in which Felix Sliderappears, so we don't see him for
another seven or six movies. Jeez. David Hedison, who played Felix,
played the role again in License toKill, becoming the first actor to reprise
the part. And his hair wasawful in this movie. Oh so bad.

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He has some kind of ling helmetwig or something on. It was
very bad, so bad. Theyshould have talked to Shatner's people. Man,
I mean, it's not like Shatnerhad good hair. It was better
than that. Yeah, not atthis point. It wasn't. At this
point he was still like at thispoint it was real bad. Or Connery

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was he wearing a hairpiece? Yes, he was? Okay, Well,
they should have talked to Connery's people'sright, they were probably still on set.
Yeah. Paul McCartney's iconic theme songfor this movie almost wasn't used.
After McCartney submitted the song, producerHarry Saltzman said he'd liked it but wanted
it to be sung by someone else, preferably a black female artist. McCartney
told producers he'd only sell the songfor the film if he and his bands

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were allowed to perform it for thefilm. Saltzman had passed on producing A
Hard Day's Night and came to quipthat he didn't want to turn down McCartney
a second time. However, Saltzmanwould subsequently say he much preferred Brenda Arno's
version of the song, also heardduring the movie. Interesting, now I
do think A Hard Day's Night wouldn'twas not a great choice. Well,

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no, but it wouldn't. Hewasn't saying for Van. He was talking
about the movie A Hard Day's Night. He passed on producing it. Thank
You, You're welcome. Screenwriter TomManko had stabbled with tarot cards to familiarize
himself with the art. He tookthem to a party and performed tarot readings
on the guests. At that party, Michael Caine and and his then girlfriend

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attended, and he used his tarotcards to predict the two would be married.
The two married, and Manco hadsaid in his autobiography that for years
afterwards, Michael's wife, Shakira Kane, was convinced he had special powers.
Did the card have Jane Seymour onit? One could only hope, okay,
Madeline Smith, miss Caruso said additionalawkwardness of the bedroom scene was created

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by Roger Moore's overprotective wife, whowas on the set during filming. In
order to establish the effect of Bondand zipping Miss Caruso's blue dress with his
magnetic watch, a thin wire wasattached to the zipper from the watch.
A stage hand lay on the floorbeneath Smith's body to pull the wire down
while Moore pretended to and zip thedress with his watch. According to Moore,
it took twenty nine takes to getit right. Oh my god,

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that is way too many takes forthat would be worth oh gosh. Though
this is the first movie in whichQ has not appeared, the book was
actually the first in the series tomake reference to Q Branch. The book
follows directly from Casino Royale, inwhich Bond's hand is knife scarred, with
a Russian character identifying him as aspy Q or Q Branch performed surgery on
the hand to conceal the scars.Well, that's dope, yelp. As

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I mentioned before, Tom manko Witzoriginally wrote the main Bond girl to be
black. With an eye on DianaRoss with the part, but one of
the producers told him it could notbe done on account of some of their
markets, primarily in Japan and SouthAfrica, banning all movies with interracial romances.
It was until Dan and the Diefeatured the lead Bond girl as an

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African American Diana other Day. Whatdid I say? Another die? Oh?
It was close? Wow? Dieanother day? What is wrong with
me? But dyslexic or something?That's a shame. It is a shame.
This is the first Bond film inwhich Seven has a liaison with a
black woman, Rosie Carver. Whenthis movie was released in South Africa,
all of Hendry's love scenes were removeddue to the apartheid policies of the government.

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Yeah, and Disney's The Color ofFriendship does a good job of explaining,
well, maybe a good job ofexplaining on a children's level, apartheid
in the seventies in South Africa.Okays, anyone needs that? Sure,
but yes, let me just sayapartheid socked. Yes, and I'm here

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to undercut your contributions. This isthe first time in the Bond series that
a rock song was used as amain title song as You Said Before,
Sir Paul McCartney and Lenna McCartney.Song charted in the US on July seventh,
nineteen seventy three, and peaked atthe number two spot, where it
stayed for three weeks. In theUK a debut on July ninth, nineteen
seventy three, and went to numbernine. McCartney paid for the orchestra used

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for the song from his own pocket. Rolling Stone magazine accused McCartney of selling
out to the establishment when it wasannounced that he would be providing the theme
song to this film. As ittranspired, McCartney became the first artist to
be nominated for a Best Song AcademyAward for a James Bond title track.
The soundtrack album charted in the USon July twenty eighth, nineteen seventy three,

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and topped at number seventeen. HM. The character of Quarrel Junior is
a direct reference to the first Bondmovie, Doctor Know, which also featured
a character named Quarrel. The originalnovel takes place before Doctor Know, in
which, as the as in themovie version, Quarrel is killed, and
features the first appearance of the character. At one stage the Bond girl character
of Honey Rider from Doctor Know wasconsidered returning in this movie, but the

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idea was withdrawn. That would havebeen cool, but I think it would
have been too much, um,you know, especially with having like the
first black bond girl and Jane Seymour, you probably wouldn't have had the first
black bond girl if they had HoneyRider come in. Okay, well let's
reason enough. Yeah, which youknow, sorry, Honey Rider Thumper may

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have been the first technically the firstblack bond girl. From Diamonds or Forever,
she wasn't really a like when Iheard referred to as a bond girl
before. When I when I thinkof bond girl, I think that's usually
like like a love interest, someonehe has a a cool relationship with.
That's what I thought bond girl was. I guess. I guess it depends

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on someone's definition of it. Yeah, but yeah, man, shout out
the Thumber. She was cool.The producers were reportedly required to pay protection
money to a local Harlem gang toensure the cruise safety. When the cash
ran out, they were quote unquoteencouraged to leave Wow Wow while filming Diamonds

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Are Forever. This was chosen asthe next novel to be adapted, because
Mankawitz thought it would be daring touse black villains as the Black Panthers and
other racial movements were active during thisera. This was inclusive with the box
office success of the early black splitationmovies like Shafts to Fly and Across one
hundred and tenth Street, which UnitedArtists released when this movie was filming.
I mean, to be fair,from a marketing standpoint, this was the

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height of the black splitation era,yes, seventy three, So I mean,
yeah, they were just trying tocash in on a certain Yeah,
just rolling with the trends, yep, which is you know all companies are
going to do. Yeah. DoctorCananga aka Mister Big is at least partially
based on doctor Francois Papa Doc DuvalDuval maybe dictator of Dictator of Haiti,

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who used voodoo as the basis ofhis personality cult and even claimed that he
was Baron Smadi. What the hell? Yeah, man, personality cult.
All I gotta say is that that'sthe real version. And this stuff.
People do this stuff, man,It wasn't just manka with It's like cooking

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up stuff like this is what blackpeople do. No, this is a
thing that happened. Yeah, thiswas based on something that's crazy. Okay,
what about what about that part umin the movie where they're doing all
that voodoo stuff and then like thatguy comes up from the grave. What
was that guy's name, the onewho was on the train at the end?
Oh baron some Oh okay, Yeah, where Sadie comes up out of

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the grave and then like is itBond who shoots him? And it's like
his eyes roll back and his bodyis like clay, Yeah, I don't
know, shatters, yeah, andthen he comes back again. Yeah.
Is that just like voodoo stuff theywere portraying. Yeah, I don't like
that was weird. Yeah, thatwas me off, like wait, what
he's Clay? Yeah, I don'tknow. That was crazy. I didn't

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get that crazy. I don't wantto be a part of that port But
he died in the snake pit,but he was still alive on the front
of that train. Yeah, I'mmissing with voodoo. Yeah. Roger Moore
wrote in his autobiography that he playeda prank on Jane Seymour during lunch.
She had a habit of asking peoplenearby to pass the ketchup than the salt,

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than another sauce, repeatedly one daymore and the rest of the crew
got up and left when Seymour satdown, causing her to burst into tears,
causing More to regret the joke.Oh no, oh yeah, don't
make little baby Jane cry. No, this is the only James Bond movie
to have a supernatural theme. Huh. I could have used more, yeah,

(01:23:09):
you know, just to change itup a little bit. Well,
you do like Baywatch Night season twowhen they just have like the really bad
stuffed wolf, the skull with theseam. Oh. Baywatch Night, the
season where oh god, they wantedto be like Buffy and the x Files.

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And I say that because David Hasselhoffliterally said, hey, Buffy and
the x Files is really popular rightnow? Yeah, And they were like,
sure, David, is your show, David, whatever you say,
sir, I'll be ready. Oneof those episodes featured Glow in the Dark
surfing aliens. I was making areference to the song. What was the

(01:23:51):
reference I'll be ready? Oh,gotcha ever you need? I didn't catch
the reference. I forgotten, don'tyou fear? Well it was the bay
you're doing the Baywatch theme song Nightremember the Baywatch Nights theme. I don't
either. It was probably this isnot as good as Babe watched This Is

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at Night? Okay, and thenjust like lots of music and then um,
what was it? Pizza Tara fromChicago? Did he sing one of
the themes on Baywatch? He would, he would have been the one singing
Baywatch Nights. Anyway, that's toomuch about Baywatch. I think it was
the guy, the cop. Ithink he sang. I think he was
singing this. Really, I thoughthe did. Man. I have looked

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his name up so many times,and I always forget his name. Well
because like Mitch starts up the companythat like the Detective Agency or whatever with
that dude. Yeah, I lovedhim so much that I can't remember his
name. I don't know. Anyway, may Watch Nights, don't watch it.
I'm looking at up. I'm lookingit up. I need to do
this man Justice, Okay. Ithink it starts with the K, so

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I sent you a clip of this. Clifton James played a similar character to
J. W. Pepper in SupermanToo. Yes, and he was like
kind of normal. He was likethey have a wide variety and then one
guy the other guy's deputy or whatever. It's like, why can't I'm not
gonna like going anyplace where they expectme to eat fish. And he's like,
I'm telling you, they have awide variety, and he's just going

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on and on, and then hefinally settles on like, well, maybe
I'll just get the fish. Andthen like zod noon and Ursa from Krypton
or in the middle of the roadand they tell him to make way,
and and he stops being a normalperson, but comes J. W.
Pepper, what you're doing in theroad, hippie? Oh god, something

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else of that sort. Oh mygoodness. So Albert Broccoli considered Goldie Hawn
and name Helen Mirren for Solitaire.Helen Mirren, m that would have been
awesome. Gail Honeycutt was signed toplay Solitaire, but had to pull out
when she became pregnant. Wow.Um. Now the novel had Mister Big
ready to topple the world's monetary systemby flooding the Golden market with Blackbeard's hoard.

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Okay, in the film, asthe film was trying to capitalize on
the black exploitation market, is Heroinwas the treasure hoard? Um? Yep?
In addition to Quarrel, the characterof Strange Ways was originally introduced in
the novel Living Let Die. LikeQuarrel, Strange Ways is later killed in
the novel Doctor No. All Right, Garner ellerb Okay, it's a weird

(01:26:30):
name, m but Garner, that'sthat's the guy the detective from the watch.
Yeah, okay, cool, thankyou, welcome. Bond's radio transmitter,
which is disguised as a clothes brush, was reused in the Doctor Who
episode Revenge of the Cyberman Part onein nineteen seventy five. Huh. While
visiting the BBC after reading a noticefor an upcoming Doctor Who episode, Roger

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Moore handed that item to the propmaster of the channel, believing that the
production crew may have any use forit one day. That's so cool.
The prop master didn't recognize more andpaid him two shillings. Wow. That
reminds me of a UM. Ican't I can't remember what what band it

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was? Um, I think,yeah, I don't remember. There there
is a band that my mom andChristy and I are kind of good friends
with. And uh, they wereon tour with another band and they were
doing like a meet and greet beforethe show started, but like the headlining

(01:27:38):
band didn't know the band that we'refriends with, and they thought that they
were the people showing up for themeet and greet. It's so like,
for the first few minutes they werejust talking to him like, hey,
man, oh cool, thank youso much for coming. Oh, it's
so good to meet you. Andeventually they just had to like, you

(01:27:58):
know, just hey, the reallyawkward thing like, dude, we're on
the tour with you. We're openingfor you tonight. Man, Like,
we like your music, but we'renot here as fans for the meat and
Green. Yeah, that's funny.That's so embarrassing. Yeah, that's rough.

(01:28:19):
A lot of humility, a lotof humility that night. Yeah.
So in the beginning of the movie, when Bond is being driven to meet
with Felix, all of the carson the road are GM autos, with
a majority of them being Chevrolet andPaula's there we go. Yep, let's
see. The film was made atthe height of what was known as the

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black splitation era and tried, successfullyor unsuccessfully, strictly each person's taste,
to incorporate this genre into Bond.I think pretty successfully. A few of
notable ones were Shaft and Willie Dynamiteand Coffee. I Like Coffee. That
was a good one. These filmsstarred black actors and have become fondly writer

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director Quentin Tarantino was able to turnhis love for the films into Jackie Brown,
which starred noted actress of the genrePam Greer. Jane this was This
is interesting. Jane Seymour was marriedat the time to Michael Attenborough, the
son of actor director Richard Attenborough.As a director, the elder Attenborough worked
with Sean Connery on A Bridge TooFar and Pierce Brosnan on Gray Owl.

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He also acted with Daniel Craig andElizabeth. The title character in that film
was a daughter of Henry the Eighth, one of whose subsequent wives was named
Jane Seymour. She was She wasalso played that same year by Judy Dinch,
who went on to play m Andthat's a lot of stuff in there.
That's a lot of Bond connections.But yeah, that's that is who
Jane Seymour took her name from.Nice. Yep, I don't remember what

(01:29:49):
her birth name is. Yeah,I remember you telling me she changed her
name, but yeah, but yep, that's who she named herself after,
and that lady was married three times, which is crazy, man, But
what did you do husbands? Maybeit was her, Maybe maybe it was
her. I don't believe it.I mean, she's perfection. Maybe she

(01:30:11):
demands perfection. She just seems sonice. Though I don't know her.
I want to believe she's nice.Okay, uh yeah. Fekado later stated,
there were so many problems and thisis the guy that played mister Big
in Kananga. Okay, thank you. There were so many problems with that
script. I was too afraid ofcoming off like Manton Moreland. I had

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to dig deep in my soul andbrain and come up with a level of
reality that would offset the sea ofstereotype crap that Tom Manklewitz wrote that had
nothing to do with the black experienceor culture. That is so sad.
Yeah, I mean, I don'tknow. And then on top of that,
he wasn't allowed to go to Press. Ye. That really sucks.

(01:30:53):
Man. He said he did thisby drawing on a real life situation I
was going through, and that savedme. Uh. But the way Kanega
dies was a joke. The entireexperience was not as rewarding as I wanted
it to be. The way hedied was a joke. Yeah, it
was really bad. It really itwas like who franked Roger rabbit Man?
But he was a compelling villain though, for yes, and like that seriously

(01:31:16):
surprised us when he like pulled offthe mister Big mask and we were like,
oh show. I was just like, oh good, but he didn't
look normal. Oh good, he'sstill black underneath. Oh god. It
it reminded me of that episode ofAtlanta when the weird like former child star,

(01:31:36):
that white dude. But we werejust like, what is going on?
He looked so weird? Yeah Perkins, Teddy Perkins? Is that?
Yes? Yeah? How did?Yeah? And like but it was Donald
Glover and whiteface. Yeah, andit was so weird but so amazing.
And I if you guys haven't seenAtlanta, check out Atlanta. It's so

(01:31:57):
good. And then, uh,I don't I don't remember like all of
the exact facts on this, butum, I don't know if Donald Glover
did or if someone else showed upto the Oscars that year as Teddy Perkins.
Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic,crazy. All right, let's get
to some listener feedback. Okay forLive and Let Die, Nerdy Tastic says,

(01:32:21):
Live and Let Die the theme isan absolute classic, and I've been
lucky enough to see McCartney perform LiveCool the movie itself, Roger is what
I like to call kindall Bond absolutelybut blandly handsome and not particularly interesting.
He can't fight worth a damn andhis charm borders on sleeves. I can

(01:32:43):
see all of that being true,but I still really enjoyed him. No,
I completely agree, because I,yeah, the the kindall kind of
charm is sort of just typical.It's okay. So here's here's like what
I like about that. You know, there was that Ian Fleming quote where
he talks about how Bond wasn't isn'treally necessarily supposed to be likable. I

(01:33:10):
like the idea. I was thinkingabout her talking about this. I was
thinking about Nerdy Tastic saying that he'sblandly handsome and not particularly interesting, and
how his charm borders on sleeves,and it made me think, I know
you haven't seen American Psycho, butit made me think of Patrick Bateman and

(01:33:31):
how Christian Bell portrayed that character assort of this, Like all of his
charm is just like this facade.And how like the way More is portraying
Bond is sort of like nothing isreal, Like none of his charm is
real, is just sort of likehe knows exactly He's got this like sociopathic

(01:33:51):
tendency to say and mimic real charm. And because he has such utter confidence
in his ability to do so,women fall for him. Like I like
that. I like that idea andthat take on Bond. Like he does
want human connection, yeah, aswe saw on Her Majesty's Secret Service,

(01:34:15):
but he's so bereft of the capabilityof achieving it that he just sort of
like looks for sex as a substitute. Yeah, and maybe gets off a
little on the power he seems tohold over women. Yeah. So I
don't know, Nerdy Task, youjust kind of talked me into and to
like it a more somehow, Shesays. Jane Seymour is stunningly beautiful,

(01:34:41):
but hurt yesh she is, buther Bond girl is kind of useless And
I don't like the way Bond tricksare. No, well, I like
it more now because he's Patrick Bateman. He's just awful yeah, the last
third devolves into parody. It does, and I absolutely loathe share Pepper.
You the way the villain is killedmay just be one of the stupidest thing

(01:35:03):
I've seen in years. Yeah,it was one of my favorite things.
Though there's that too. Well.It it was ridiculous and funny. But
I feel like misplaced in this movie, especially for that character, because that
that kind of villain was not justlike hokey, silly, goofy. Yeah,

(01:35:27):
you know that that almost would havebeen more fitting of them. Oh
man, I forgot his name,the Clay dude, the voodoo guy,
oh Eddie. Yeah, almost wouldhave been more fitting of him, especially
since we saw him get shot andhe just like like broke like Clay.
Yeah, I don't know, itwas. It was ridiculous, nerdy tasted

(01:35:57):
it continues. I'm also looking forwardto y'all getting to the Dalton movies.
For a long time, he wasmy favorite. Now he's second to Craig
Nice. That's awesome. I lookforward to Dalton man me too. I
look forward to all of them.Yeah, and then I'm wrong, I'm
kidding. I've enjoyed it so far, Travis Hines says into the beginning of

(01:36:18):
the More era. The first BondI was introduced to as a kid,
Paul McCartney and Wings rocking that introsong fire. He puts the fire emoji.
You know when I copy it overto actually says what it is.
That's awesome. Oh that makes mewant to like copy and paste all of
the emojis probably translate. Well,you can do that on your own time.

(01:36:40):
I love I don't want to know. I don't want to know nothing
about it. Oh, Travis hines, you should talk to David Wang because
David Wayne, did you. Idon't know if you have that piece of
feedback and here, but David Wangon our Facebook group UM said that the
Roger Moore movie these are the onesthat he watched the most on VHS when

(01:37:01):
he was growing up. Ye see. Uh, Jason Goss, do you
know that guy sounds familiar? Myco host on DC On screen, Jason
Goss says, I don't think anyother intro gets all that close to this
one. It is the Michael Jordanof Bond songs. Well, Jason is
a huge Beatles fan. Yeah,so I didn't expect him to have any

(01:37:23):
other opinion. And he got tosee Paul McCartney last year, didn't he?
I think so in New Orleans?I think, yeah, is that
your bad knee I am grabbing?Yes, sorry, it is the knee
that has been hurting me for threeweeks straight. Ye. Sorry, but
hey, that's cool. I wonderif you got to see any suspicious funerals

(01:37:45):
while he was there. I don'tknow. I guess we can ask him.
David Wayan says, fun fact,every next Roger Moore film is a
bit longer than the previous one.That is not a fun factor. So
well, how much the longer isa terrible factory seconds longer. That is
a horrible factor. I already struggledwith two hours manez. He says,

(01:38:13):
this is the best ending shot ofa Bond film. Yes, even greater
than Casino Royal's. Yeah, itwas interesting. It's just I think,
uh, what kind of cheapens itfor me? Is that? I know
it's not going to go anywhere.Yeah, we're not going to see that
guy again. Yeah, I'm prettysure. Yeah we're That story is not
going to be continued. But itwas a cool shot and a cool idea,

(01:38:36):
like, oh my gosh, thisguy is still around. Yep.
Bond hand gliding is another example ofBond films making aware of cutting edge sports
and recreations. Well, yeah,they got to they got too, they
got down the edge. In yourmind, is Bond more of a cigarette
guy or a cigar guy? Yousaid cigar? Yeah, you thought Conny's
got Bond was more of a sigarcificallysaw in my mind Sean Connery smoking a

(01:39:01):
cigar, which is so weird becauselike Connery did nothing but chain smoked cigarettes.
And yeah, I think he Ithink he may have had a Bond
a cigar in you only live twice. Maybe I don't know, but yeah,
Like he's just like every time Ithink of him as Bond, like

(01:39:21):
I just see like him smoking acigarette in a tuxedo. Yeah, I
just I just think of um justcigar. Bond seems like a cigar guy
to me. That's interesting. Uh. David Wayne says, wonder what you
think about the change in aspect ratioin this film and the next one.
To be honest, they've been widescreensince Thunderball, and now we get a
brief change to one eighty five one. This was a big thing that shocked

(01:39:44):
me after years of watching the RogerMoore wins on VHS. Um, Dude,
I didn't notice it even after yousaid it. I didn't. I'm
sorry. I didn't care. Itdidn't It didn't even like I would if
you had not said it, Iwouldn't have known it. And even though
you said, I still do notknow it. It just did not register
to me. Yeah, I didn'tnotice either. But that's not usually something

(01:40:08):
that I noticed anyway. Well,that is something. It's weird. Is
this something that I normally noticed?Yeah, Like the Scrubs DVDs are not
the right aspect ratio, Like it'sdifferent than the show. And when I
first started watching them, I waslike, something's wrong here, and it's
some kind of weird, like it'ssome kind of weird aspect ratio where they
they changed it from four to threeand like kind of cut it weird.

(01:40:30):
So I don't know, but yeah, you you're the guy who like walks
into a room like uh and you'rejust like, ah, maybe got the
aspect ratio on the TV screen messedup there, it's not in the right
blah blah blah blah blah blah.And I'm like I thought it looked like
it didn't fit the screen. Yeah, because I don't really know. I

(01:40:51):
mean, there's like a lot oftimes with my grandmother's TV, right,
you know, I'll be like,dude, what what did she do?
I'm like, babe, can't shehen't you see Jimmy Walker's head looks like
it's been flattened by a train.I don't know. I just listened to
the words, David. I don'tlook at the pictures like they've got the
four to three halfback ratio smished intoa sixteen nine. It's ungodly. I

(01:41:15):
say, Christiana would would uh,she would probably notice something like that.
Maybe not as as hardcore as you, but yeah, but yeah, as
long as as long as the pictureisn't squished, and I don't notice,
like I don't mind, Like,yeah, I I you know, I
guess the previous movies did look alittle more cinematic, yeah, because of

(01:41:39):
the wide screen, but um,nothing was squished, so I didn't really
mind, yeah, or really evennotice. Yeah, I don't know.
Sorry, Yeah, I'm sorry.Sorry, David Wing. I'm sorry,
David Wing. I feel like I'vefailed you and that makes me hurt in
my heart. Or maybe that wasthe chili dog I ate before watching this

(01:41:59):
movie. Perhaps I have. Ihaven't eaten a chili dog in years.
I don't know what. I don'tknow what I'm talking about. They're moving
on. Diamonds are forever. MatthewSalvatore says a superb review. I had
several laughs with this one. Thanky, thanks, you're welcome. I saluted
you. You can't see because thisis audio. I thought you were putting

(01:42:20):
your hand up to high five me. No, but thank you. I'll
salute you too. Thanks. Iwas not saluting you, so was I
good? Yes, okay, justmaking sure we all understand what's happening.
Thank you, Matthew, Thank youso much. Matthew. Pop Culture Maven
at Pop Cultures Zar says, justsalt, Diamonds are Forever and heard the

(01:42:41):
podcast. Thanks a little trivia Igot from the Blue Ray. The original
ending for this featured Bond and Bluefieldin a fight to the death in a
salt mine back to the Salt.So I'll give this movie three salt mines
out of five up. Thank you, Thank you. Sherman Smith on the

(01:43:04):
Facebook group Breaking Bond Facebook group.You guys can go check that out if
you like. You can. Yougotta you gotta say hey, let me
in and I'll be like all right. When I noticed, Sherman Smith says,
I thought the plug I know,yep, come join the Facebook group

(01:43:26):
as a bunch of people talking aboutJames Bond and a couple of people talking
about other stuff. I don't know. Sherman Smith says, I thought the
close up on the car chase haslooked bad until I saw the close up
on the ski chase. Yep,on Her Majesty's Secret Service. Yeah,
yep, yep that that rear projectoryea, you only live twice. Pop

(01:43:51):
culture maven at pop Cultures are onTwitter says just saw you all you only
live twice and listen to the podcast. Thanks decent movie. But those are
the loudest ninjas I've ever heard.Oh yeah, And Sherman Smith says on

(01:44:13):
Facebook. So far, I foundall the older Bond movies to be about
the same. The overly long oneswould be much better if they were edited,
because there are a lot of goodparts but way too much filler.
Yes pretty sure girl, Yes Yes, next episode we'll be discussing The Man
with the Golden Gun nineteen seventy four. Roger Moore, as in my six

(01:44:38):
agent, James Bond, who JamesBond, Christopher Lee as Am I Sorry,
as Francisco Scaramanga cool, Britt Eklandas Mary good Night, Mary,
goodnight, maud Adam says Andrea Andersand her Villa shy villaches. I don't

(01:45:06):
know how to say him. Iknow who he is. Okay as Nicknack
as Nick Knack, Scaramanga's Dwarfman servantand accomplished. Dear guys. This is
the guy that that was on FantasyIsland the plane to plane. Oh my
gosh, tattoo, M tattoo,that's right. Yeah. So we also

(01:45:28):
have Clifton James as Sheriff J.W. Pepper, returning the description Louisiana
Sheriff who happens to be on holidayin Thailand. Hamilton liked Pepper in the
previous film Live and Let Die andasked Mankowitz to write him into The Man
with the Golden Gun as well.That really says something about no Hamilton,

(01:45:51):
Guy hamiltons. So the next onewill be directed by Guy Hamilton's letter.
But you know what, this isthe guy that did the Guy Hamilton's who
did Goldfinger. So okay, hedid this one. He did all right,
all right, y'all. Until nexttime, Keep your gold, keep

(01:46:13):
your gun golden, and bye liveat what are You Parcel Common Doom Stabochine.

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