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In this episode of Breaking Bond,will be talking about Moonraker from nineteen seventy
nine, starring Roger Morris and mysixth agent, James Bond. Who would
have thought Lois Chile's as Holly Goodhead, Michael Lonsdell as Hugo drags Richard Keel
as Jaws directed by Lewis Gilbert.But first a word from os bonsa welcome
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into Breaking Bond, a double sevenbinge cast, or we'll be diving head
first into the double seventh cinematic universeon a mission to watch every James Bond
film ever made. With no firsthandknowledge of the books and little to no
experience with the films, We're excitedto finally less out the missing context surrounding
this pop culture icon and see what, if anything, we've been missing.
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I'm David C. Robertson and I'mBethany Robertson. Oh girl, it's been
a minute. Yeah. We honestly, we've kind of been putting off recording
this as a reflection of how badMoon Breaker was. It was bad,
y'all. It was rough, dude, Yeah it was pretty And like I
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say that as a person who lovesbad movies. There's and I'm sure y'all
understand there's a certain type of badthat's fun to watch. Like I see
something and I'm like, oh mygosh, yes, like what what have
I watched recently? Um? God, which listener was it was it Stu
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Little who was talking about Fomka Jansen. Yes, and this movie that she
was in from the nineties called Modelby Day. Yeah, and uh,
the the second half of that title, Model by Day dot dot dot Vigilante
by Night. Basically, Um,it was awful. Yeah, but that
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that type of awful where it's stillfun to watch and just laugh at it.
Yeah, but you guys were talkingabout in the uh in the podcast
that like her what was her nameTriple X or something, triple X,
triple X Lex. Yeah, soshe or that was on her license plate.
Her name, her name was Lex. She was trained by a guy
in a wheelchair in the movie.So it's all like a precursor to the
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X Men movie. Yes, hername was Lady X. That's what the
newspaper called her. That was nameLady X. And for a second,
I just vagina name was like whatwhat instead of vigilante? It was like
that's like, really what what that'sreally weird, terrible. Oh my gosh,
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I don't say that, Oh mygod. And then you didn't,
so I had to jeez. Um, I was like that mom on South
Park and I was like I heardyou saying. I was like what what
what? You didn't say it?And I was like, well, now
I'm gonna have to draw attention toit. Yeah, how you doing?
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Um? Yeah, so like thatis a great movie that's really bad.
Um. I also have been findingall kinds of hidden gems on Prime video
recently that are just garbage movies,but for me, they're fun to watch.
Most of the movies that fall intothat category or from the eighties to
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mid nineties. Yeah. Uh.It's like when when Netflix just first started
streaming and like they had like threegood movies and like terrible movies. Yeah,
and then like very obviously independent movies. Yeah uh yeah, So this
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is not one of those movies that'sso bad. It's kind of good and
fun to watch. Yeah, itwas just bad, just boring. It
was. It was boring. We'vetalked before and a lot of you,
a lot of you guys know,um, there was a lot of content
in this movie that they have donebefore. Yeah, and we're not just
talking about like a formulaic storyline,like the actual villainous plot. I mean,
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it was the last movie, butlike done way worse. And I'm
pretty sure they've like I don't rememberthe specifics of this, but I think
I read on Wikipedia that they're likeone or two shots from previous movies that
they just use. They use theexact same footage in this movie. Yeah,
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I know they used some sound effectsfrom the last movie that was just
like good lord, y'all really gracious, and yet they spent so much money.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, sothis film is from nineteen seventy nine.
Since I really just love pretty muchanything from the eighties, like to
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a fault, hm, I'm recutingme. I'm really hoping that the next
film we get will have more oflike if it's gonna we haven't even gotten
you part of the podcast yet,if it's gonna continue to be like kind
of cheesy and maybe like not supergreat movies for the next decade, maybe
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at least it'll be like that typeof eighties cheese bad movie that I really
really love. I don't mind supercheesy. Yeah, as long as it's
entertaining, right, but just whatn'tit? No, let's get to the
synopsis, the Wikipedia synopsis. Okay, hope please, Oh. Before you
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get to that, I'd like tosay that the title song was composed by
John Barry. So John Barry wasback, he has returned, and it
was performed by Shirley Bassie, whohas also returned for the last time.
Oh, okay, and there weare. That's called tripe that comes later.
It's okay if we do it outof order. Yeah, you're right,
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I really, I really do loveorderly things in sequence, like who
are you? Why are you deviatingfrom your normal routine now? Because okay,
for me, the order it doesstill kind of go in order,
because if we're going to talk aboutthe movie, then the title, like
the title starts at the top ofYeah, okay, well as far as
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the title goes. Oh, Idon't remember it. I don't remember the
song. I don't remember the sequence. I don't really remember the song,
but I did keep probably I probablydon't remember the song because I kept in
my head going moon Reger okay,like the Goldfinger theme, also done by
John Barry and Shirley Bassey, exceptI was saying Moonreger, And that's probably
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why I don't remember it, becauseI was, you know, having like
a five year old breakdown in myhead, right, and I was probably
I think I've seem to remember likethe naked Lady silhouettes float and I was
thinking space boobies, Oh my god. Which if you really want that,
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you should watch Barbarella, not Moonraker. I've never seen Barbaralla, but oh,
most movies are better than this one. Oh, I'm sure Barbaralla is
pretty bad. And a lot ofit is like very very cheesy and ridiculous,
but also very sexually charged. Andit's just like, how did they
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even make this? So body,y'all have to tell us if there's anyone
listening. Who there's anyone listening period? Let us know if there's anyone listening.
Can you hear us out there?If you guys liked this movie,
let us know and let us knowwhy. Please. Um. Also,
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I really hope you are not easilyoffended, because if you like this,
most of the things we are goingto continue to say about it will not
be positive. Mm. That's true, and I'm sorry, and also I'm
not sorry, right all right?Synopsis synopsis A drags Industry's Moonraker, a
VTHL space plane based on the NASASpace Shuttle Orpiter on loan to the United
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Kingdom, is hijacked in mid airwhile on a shuttle carrier aircraft, which
is destroyed, but no wreckage ofthe shuttle is found. M head of
in My Six assigns James Bond,Agent seven to investigate. En route to
England, Bond is attacked and pushedout of an airplane by the mercenary assassin
Jaws, whom he previously met inThe Spy Who Loved Me. He survives
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by stealing a parachute from the pilot, whilst Jaws lands on a trapee's net
within a circus tent. Loved thissequence, Yeah, that was cool.
Like we have heard like I haveheard. I don't know about you.
Since I started getting into the JamesBond stuff, I have heard countless times
from you know, so many differentpeople digging around on the internet. Moonrakers,
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garbage roomers, trash moon rakers,the worst thing ever. And I
always like being a Batman v.Superman fan and a fan of Zack Snyder
films and a fan have a lotof movies that you know, most people
are like, oh, let meturn my nose look about him. I
was hoping that Moon Raker was goingto be one of those where I was
like, this is the last JediA Bond movies. Yeah it was not,
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but but this this opening scene wherehe's like stealing the news parachute,
yeah, and mid air and stufflike, it was really cool. Cool.
I'd really dug it and it wasfreaking me out. Man. Yep,
me too. That was not myscene and it freaks me out.
Yeah, Austin Power's reference. Nice. Nice, it's not my bag.
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Baby. Um. It was givingme lots of anxiety, but I also
thought it was so awesome, sothat really gave us a false sense of
security. Right from the start.It was up ending pretty pretty quickly.
At the Drax Industry's space plane manufacturingcomplex in California, Bond meets the owner
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of the company, Hugo Drax,and his henchman Chang. Bond also meets
doctor Holly Goodhead, an astronaut,and survives an assassination attempt while inside a
centrifuge chamber. I was still downwith it at this point. Yep,
I was still down. Yep.That was that seemed cool. Drax's personal
pilot, Corinne Defour, sleeps withBond and then helps Bond find blueprints for
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a glass vial made in Venice.Drax discovers her involvement and has her killed
by his pet dogs. Starting tofeel like spy yeah by who loved me?
Yeah? And that was that wasrough, dude. That was rough.
Oh my gosh. That. Imean, we've we've seen lots of
pretty rough ways of going, anduh, that's one of them. Just
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being attacked by dogs. By theway, I saw in the trivia sinks
that Corinne Defour she was in adirty movie. Oh that's right, grin
um, how you do that?I felt I felt bad for her.
I mean, before she died,we kind of knew that that's where that
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was heading. Ye, good heading. Hell, I did it. I
did it. I did it.She was a good head, I know.
But still you still used it?I still yeah. I wasn't planning
to, but then I was like, oh, opportunity. Yeah, I'm
gonna give it to you. Thankyou. Um, I don't I don't
know, like why didn't she likeclimb up a tree or like, I
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don't know, run faster. MYeah, Well, if Drax sent the
dogs on her, did that meanshe had a pretty good head start?
Though a good head start, Iwas gonna say, Drax, he knows
the head. He's a bad headof industries, bad head of Drags industry.
See all the things were thinking ofmaking puns out of her last name
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other than what it was intended forit. Hugo Drags a prickly pear.
He's a prickly pair. All right, we're bond again. Encounters good Head
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in Venice that he did, andobserves her snooping around a door near the
glass factory. Then he is chasedthrough the canals by Drax's henchman. He
returns to the factory at night toinvestigate and discovers a secret biological laboratory and
learns that the glass vials are tohold a nerve gas deadly to humans but
harmless to plants and animals. Chainingattacks Bond, but Bond hurls him through
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the stained glass clock face of theSaint Mark's clock tower, killing him.
During the fight, Bond finds evidencethat Drags is moving his operation to Rio
de Janeiro, rejoining good Head,he seduces, seduces, he deduces that
that part comes later. He deducesthat she is a CIA agent spying on
Drax and sleeps with her, saying, see, I told you. Bond
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has saved one of the vials hefound earlier as the only evidence of the
now empty laboratory. He gives itto him for analysis, who permits him
to go to Rio de Janeiro orthe pretense of being on leave. Now.
I thought the whole laboratory was reallycool. I thought, I thought
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the look of it like the setdressing. I guess, yeah, is
that that's how like cool people sayit, the set dressing. I guess
I don't know any cool people.I've heard of them. Um. Whatever
Ken Adam did was good, KidAdam's good. I thought it looked I
thought it looked really neat and justreally uh retrofuturistic, Yes, thank you,
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Like it is exactly what I wanted, clink like. Um, I
felt like it looked like a lotof other labs from that era. And
as you said, retrofuturistic, itlooked exactly like that. I don't know.
I thought it was cool and Iliked it. Um. And then
you know, when they did thething I felt, I felt bad for
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him when he went back to showhis show his guys and be like,
see they've got a lab here.Look at the stuff they're doing. And
then it wasn't there. And Iwas like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, yeah, they moved thatstuff out fast, man, yea
man. And I was like,man, this some bull squash they done.
Did him dirty? The where's themovie? The more we devolved into
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silly voices. Um, but Ihave to say, still, up to
this point, for the most part, I think we were both still in
it. I mean no, Iwas. I was hanging on by a
thread. Yeah, it does getto a point. Well, I was
like, this is called moon Rakerwhen right when they go and break the
moone, it got to a pointnow you I know, we talked about
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this in our last cast. Thereason this movie came next was because of
other the trends and pop culture.We're going in the way of sci fi
fantasy space kind of stuff. Imean, that's a fancy way of saying
Star Wars made a lot of money. That was it? That was really
it? That in Close Encounters ofthe Third kind? Really yeah? Yeah,
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And so they wanted they went aheadand like pushed Moon Wrecker up to
be the next film that they putout, and so knowing this, we
spent it was probably like the firstThis movie is I think about two hours
and five minutes, two hours andten minutes long. We so it's probably
about an hour and fifteen minutes,maybe even an hour and a half until
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they actually are in space, Like, well, more than fifty percent of
this movie is on the dang Earth. Yeah it was Earthreaker. Yeah,
it was man. Apparently it's nothinglike the book. The book is I
don't know, I don't know whatit is. Apparently it was so severely
outdated there was just no way toadapt it. Like I don't know if
they were all just like I don'tknow, I don't know anything about it.
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Um oh. And speaking of CloseEncounters of the third kind, I've
got to point out I loved Ibelieve it was when Bond was like ringing
the doorbell for that lab or whenwe heard other people ringing the doorbell for
that lab. It was that doodoo, doo doo doo. Yeah,
so that was awesome. They askedfor that, Yep, that was cool.
Yeah. Spielberg was like, Ilike, good call out who mum,
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I think we've gotten to this partin the synopsis. I don't.
I don't really remember, but Ithink this is cool that, uh,
I have no ab knowing that LouisGilbert, Albert Broccoli and his wife Dana
Broccoli can be seen whatever the sceneis when they're at Saint Mark's Square.
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Yeah. I don't know what SaintMark's Square is, and there are so
many people in the scene that we'repretty sure it was there. I mean,
I don't know what they look likewell enough to have pointed them out,
but I believe it was the scenewhere it's the same guy who's like
drinking something who was in the previousfilm at the beach. He will he
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was at the place where the gondolacomes out of the water. H.
Well, I don't know. Sorry, I'm sorry, listeners, dear listeners,
I don't know what Saint Mark's Squareis. All three of you were
so sorry. But anyway, Idid still think that that was at least
a cool thing to note, eventhough we don't know when it was or
what they look like. That's right, but we saw it. The trivia
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has a description of what they werewearing or what Albert was wearing anyway okay.
Bond survives attacks attacks by Jaws,whom drags previously high his Chang's replacement
during Rio cart of All, andon the Sugarloaf cable car after cable.
After jaws cable car crashes, heis rescued from the rebel by Dolly,
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a young woman, and the twofall in love just instantly. Yeah Drax's
forces captured Goodhead, but Bond escapes. He learns that the toxin comes from
a rare orchid indigenous to the AmazonJungle. Bond travels the Amazon River and
comes under attack from Drax's forces beforeeventually locating his base. Captured by Jaws,
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Bond is taken to Drax and witnessesfour Moonrakers lifting off. Drax explains
that he stole back the Loan shuttlebecause another isn't Another in his fleet had
developed a fault during assembly. Bondand Goodhead are engaged by Jaws in a
fake meeting room under the launch platformand narrowly escape being burned alive by the
exhausts of Moonraker five, which iscarrying DRACKX and poses pilots on Moonraker six.
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The shuttle's dock the shuttle's dock witha huge city like space station hidden
from radar by a cloaking device.Uh. Yeah, it is. After
I like the cable car fight,I was like woken up because heights are
such a panic attack. Yeah,and I was. I was in a
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cable car. Um. When didmy mom and I go to New Hampshire.
I guess it was about a yearago. Uh, and my mom
really wanted to go in one ofthose cable cars and like go up the
side of a mountain to get tothe top of it. And Uh,
I just decided to suck it upand be a good sport and go with
her so she didn't have to goby herself. Yeah. I did not.
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I did not like the ride upthere or back or what we were
up there because it was so highup it was extremely windy, and that
made me even more anxious because ofhow windy it was, and my horror
was just pounding like through out theentire ordeal. Thank you, So that
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was kind of triggering for me.Yeah. The closest I've gotten to being
in a cable car is when Iwas driving home coming from Best Buy after
buying a cable that I needed tohook up the internet. Oh god.
And even then I was like alittle panicky. My college best buys up
on a hill. Oh love,Oh gosh. Yeah, like when we
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were when we were coming back downfrom the mountain in the cable car.
Yeah, I really wish I couldhave enjoyed it too, because I mean
I took a couple of pictures thatwas kind of all I could muster,
and then I was just like,all right, focus on something else now.
But when we were coming back down, that cable car was packed to
capacity. Yep. And I alsoam slightly claustrophobic, but it like it's
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worse when the tight space is thatI'm surrounded by people. Yeah. Um,
so it was like double anxiety.And I just looked at the floor
of the entire time, like forall seven minutes it took us to go
back down, I just looked atthe floor of the whole time. I'll
tell you this. I didn't putit. I didn't put it in the
trivia, but we're talking about ithere. I purposely didn't put it in
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the trivia because it was freaking meout at the time. But apparently the
cable car seems real, Like no, the stunt man was actually hanging like
that, and they had had himlike because he looked a lot like Roger
Moore, they had had him cuthis hair and shave his beard, so
like a lot of the close closerup scenes of him, it was like,
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he looks like Roger Moore, butit's really the stunt guy. Yeah,
but yeah, they actually thought hewas going to die, but they
kept the cameras rolling like that.He was hanging there for oh jee yeah,
Oh my gosh. Anyway, Ohmy gosh, God bless you stunt
man. Oh my gosh. Also, God bless you man of stunt Uh
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did anybody else think that? Uh? Old girl who naturally falls in love
with Jaws at first sight? Howcan you not? Right? Um?
I kind of thought she reminded meof um Violet and Bigger Staff. I'm
saved by the Bell, a characterplayed by Tory Spelling who falls in love
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with Screech. Oh yeah, yeah, And I didn't think about that.
I didn't know just what made whatmade me vaguely vaguely vaguely similar similarities,
vaguely similar traits. I think that'sthe word combination. I'm looking forward traits.
Um. Uh kind of a nerdlook um pigtail, braids, glasses.
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Okay, maybe they both had braces. I was waiting for you to
say braces, yeah, because Idon't the character did not have braces at
the end of the movie. Ohgod, and she totally had braces when
she met Joel. I was gonnasay, I'm pretty sure I remembered her
having braces because I kind of thoughtthat that was ironic that she had braces
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and that she was with Jaws,right, And in subsequent releases, like
there are some DVD releases that stillhave it. Ours is one of those.
But in subsequent releases they digitally erasedthe braces when they when she first
meets Jaws so that it fits withthe later incarnation. I'm like, why
do you do that? Like,why can't you just like stick braces on
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her or yeah, just say shegot him removed. Yeah, I mean,
you know, Jaws could have removedthem with his teeth. That's true.
If he can buy through chains,chains made of liquorice, be realistic.
Who would want to buy through liquorice? I mean unless it was like
Twizzlers. Oh no, not eventhat as happy No, it doesn't mind
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bond and Goodhead disabled the radar jammingclose cloaking advice. The United States sends
a platoon of marines aboard another shuttleto intercept the now visible space station.
Jaws captures Bond and Goodhead, towhom Drags reveals his plan to destroy human
life by launching fifty globes that woulddispense the nerve gas into Hurt's atmosphere.
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Drags fifty globes Tracks that was tomask a burp that was coming. Tracks
had transported several dozen genetically perfect youngmen and women of varying races to the
space station in the shuttles freaking conStar Trek. Yeah, conton unions.
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They would live there until Earth wassafe again for human life. Their descendants
would be the seed for a newmaster race. Bond persuades Jaws to switch
his allegiance by getting Tracks to admitthat anyone not measuring up to his physical
standards, including him and Dolly,would be exterminated. That's a pretty good
and we have pulling him to thegood side. Yeah, and he turned
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quickly, durned quick he stopped hinchingimmediately, Yes, post haste. Yes.
Forthwith Jaws attacks Tracks, his guardsand a laser battle ensues between Draxx's
forces and Bond, Jaws and theMarines attacking on MMus. Draxx's forces are
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defeated as the station is destroyed,while Bond destroys the three launched globes and
returned to Earth. It is revealedthe Jaws and Dolly, who ejected themselves
in one of Track's escape pods aftertoasting with a bottle of champagne, are
being recovered by the Marines. Bondsuperiors get a video feed of Moon Raker
five and are bemused to see Bondand goodhead Megan Love in zero gravity.
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All right, so the space battlewith the lasers one of the most boring
things I've ever seen. Yeah,Like, I was so bad, dude,
I was so amped up, justlike for the level. God get
to space. Yeah, and thenit was the most boring space ever.
Yeah. And yeah, they theyreally they really called our bluff on that
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house. It was like underball inspace. They're like flown arounds at each
other. I feel like that couldhave been that could have been so awesome,
because okay, sure, yeah,that's that's a good villainous plan,
Like an evil, awful villain wantsto create a master race. Yeah.
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I mean that has happened in realitybefore that, you know, I mean
like you know, like, yeah, we have had an evil villainous man
in the real world want to createa master race. Yeah, I mentioned
Okay, I was thinking like theworld that we live in, baby,
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like, oh okay, all right, all right, all right, okay,
Um, no more qualifiers on thatone. Um hey, but yeah,
like wanting to do that, createa new master race in space on
the moon. Yeah, Like tome, I love sci fi fantasy stuff.
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Um, that would have if someonehad told me if I didn't know
anything about this film, and ifthat's what they would have if that's what
they would have said, like evilvillain wants to start a new master race
on the moon and it's from nineteenseventy nine, that probably would have been
enough to at the least get mereally interested. I feel like that could
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have been something really cool and reallyawesome. Right. Did you did you
ever see Iron Sky? I don'tthink so. It speaking of bad sci
fi movies, it is basically,we learned that there's a secret Nazi base
on the Moon and that's where theNazis went after World War Two. There
might be a couple of those ohgosh, yeah, oh geez. I
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feel like it would have maybe themovie would have been better if maybe like
eighty to nine of it had beenin space, like if they had established
some kind of like evil secret layeron the moon and like the villain was
doing all of his villainy yeah fromthe moon, and if he already would
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have had his Master Race subjects onthe moon, and I don't know,
like the plot would have gone fromthere, you know, Yeah, I
think it should have opened with like, I don't know, like the Americans
getting ahold of the frigging you know, in my six Agency, and they're
like, we've got strange readings likeflutuations and blah blah blah. They're like,
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yes, quite, we already haveour best man on it. And
we just cut to James Bond ina shuttlecraft like flying towards the Giant space
station where the things are happening.Yeah, they just go ahead and start
out there like there's already a colonythere. Yes, Yeah, I was
gonna say, yeah, they've they'vethey already have a civilization there. Um,
But like the main thing that they'retrying to stop is like However,
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whatever his plan is to like wipeout the Earth, you know, like
maybe I feel like that would havebeen cooler. Yeah, if they just
would have done space stuff the majority, and then Bond could go and then
Draxx would be like, you area genetically perfect though, Bond so sure,
and He's like, yes, I'mdefecting. I don't want to be
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a part of this world. I'veseen too much ugliness soon, too much
blah blah. Dude, we're writingaway better version. Yeah, yeah,
and goodness knows he would procreate apretty good bit. That's right. You
can restart the entire human ring,procreate that whole dang colony, just be
they'd have to move to another movie. Yes, we must create a new
world without the blowfields and without theyou know, blah blah blah. So
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that probably would have been a bettermovie. Is this a good introduction to
James Bond for you? I'm gonnasay no. If I watched this one
first, I would never watch aJames Bond movie again. Probably I might
watch another one, but I wouldnot feel great about it. Yeah,
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and I couldn't recommend it to anyoneI loved in good conscience. No,
man, me either I'd be like, if you're a complete this you gotta
watch it. But yeah, thisisn't. This isn't even like, oh
my gosh, y'all, this isso bad. You've got to watch it.
You will love it. Watch it. You know there's some stuff like
watch it. Watch it with agroup of your friends, you know,
so you guys can just like sitaround and laugh make jokes the whole time,
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like Mystery Science theater style. Yeah, except it's not really not even
interesting enough to do that. No, it isn't. It's not even that
kind of bad. It goes pastthat threshold. Now, generally, no
matter how bad a Bond movie isso far, I've always had at least,
you know, a page of quotesthat I enjoyed, like I've got
I've got like four quotes, okay, and that's it. That's really like
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squeezing it out. That's squeezing itout, dude. That's like my face
was read from straining. Yeah,you're ringing that washcloth dry, Yeah,
blowing up my o ring. Doyou have any favorite quotes putting mint jelly
on the lamb? Oh man,come on, I don't need to go
back to that. Well, um, no, I don't. I don't
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have any quotes written down. Okay, all right, well here here in
mine. Uh so. Frederick Gray, the Minister of Defense, says,
this is I guess father. Theysee them having sex in the in the
gravity, the anti gravity or whatever. Sorry, I've read it already.
Yeah. He says, my god, what's Bond doing? And then Q
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says, I think he's attempting reentry? Sir, why have they not
learned at this point? Q andM should know by now right. You
can't just all of a sudden popin on Bond at the end of a
mission. He's gonna be doing it, especially if there is a body of
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water involved, or a body offemale involved, if he is in a
vessel that is on the water,it increases the chances that he gonna be
doing it when you find him.M Yeah, and he's always gonna have
a woman with him. Yeah,yeah, all right. So Bond and
Drags are shooting pheasants and then hesays, you missed, mister Bond,
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and then a sniper falls from atree and Vond goes, did I I
really liked that scene. That wasfun. I liked it. I liked
this one because and for some reason, I felt like this movie started a
trend. Maybe it's a trend.It's definitely something that I, like Austin
Powers picked up on, and maybethey did before, but I just noticed
it here of like Drags had italmost as many one lighters as Bond normally
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has. But um, you know, just like or like villainous lines like
look after mister Bond, see thatsome harm comes to him? Like that
feels like it is from a Mitchelland Webb, you know, yeah,
sketch or something. Yep, that'sway of saying that. There's a great
bit where him says Moneypenny is doubleseven back from that African job, and
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she says he's on his last legs, sir, And it cuts to like
Bond caressing a stewardess his thigh,his hand pushing up her skirt and he's
she says, and he hired misterBond, and my ears will pop.
And that was all that's all Ihad for that. I didn't find any
of the others good. Yeah.I almost wrote down the one where he
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was like, why did you killmy piethaw? And I discovered he had
a crush on me, you know, But I remember when I when I'm
watching the movie and he said it, I went on, my favorite scene
was the skydive sequence. Yea,mine too. Mine also, yeah,
it was really cool. Least favoritescene everything else. Yeah, I really
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know what to say for my leastfavorite scene because there there was just so
much I didn't like. I mean, I really didn't like that cable car
stuff. Yeah, I didn't likethat at all. Isn't it weird that
like one of your least favorites isgoing to be the cable car scene because
I feel the same way in alot of ways, Like, but like,
my favorite is the skydive secret.I think it's because the skydive was
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so high up and it was justlike, oh that's fine for a long
time, that's fine. Um yeah, it almost takes the severity out of
it. Yeah. Yeah, Iwould say like maybe the cable car scene
was my least favorite, and thenlike once they get to space, just
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everything after that was my story.Fair enough. It was bad, dude,
it was rolled bad. What doyou hope to see going forward?
Not this? Oh? Um?Timothy Dalton, Timothy Dalton, I see
next? Or is it Pierce?I mean no, it's Timothy Dalton.
You got like two, I thinktwo more Roger Cony before you get no,
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y'all, I'm sorry, I'm sickof Roger Moore already. Yeah,
I'm so sorry, already. Reallysaw just because Moonraker was bad, yeah,
that was enough to do it,because it wasn't his fault. No,
no, no, he was stillperfectly likable in the role as much
as you can like a James Bond. I'm really I guess Okay, what
I am hoping to see going forwardis when when we got to um,
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was it Live and Let Die?That was in the seventies. Yeah,
there was definitely a shift from thisis the sixties, this is the seventies.
You could absolutely tell that they werein the seventies now, right.
I am hoping that we can alsosee that same shift in the eighties.
It's not gonna be good eighties though, you know, it's not gonna be
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good eighties though, dude, LikeI'm just it's gonna like be like weird,
big poofy hair and like shoulder pads. Love it and uh probably Timothy
Dalton's still gonna be balding, buthave a mullet. I don't know,
Oh gosh, I mean, Iam looking forward to seeing Sean Connery one
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last time in the eighties. Ithink you're just getting bored, You're just
getting I really am, and I'msorry. I'm really sorry for anyone I'm
letting down. I just okay,I feel bad about that, but I
am. I'm tired, all right. I know that's not what you want
to hear. Yeah, when youlisten to a Bond podcast, I don't.
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I don't blame Roger Moore. Iwon't. I don't mind more Roger
more at this point. There's adifference because I feel like I was just
talking to my friend Brandon about thisearlier. You know, once you get
to you only live twice. Itwas clear that Connery was phoning it in.
Yeah, it was clear that Connerywas no longer having fun with the
role. Yeah. I don't getthat feeling from Roger Moore, right,
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I don't either. I and fromthings that we have discussed in other episodes,
Um, I feel like he reallyhas a strong feeling about this character,
like when they have asked him todo things that he did not think
was consistent with the character, hevocalized that, And I agree with you.
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I think that's awesome that he hasmore of a stake in this character.
Yeah that's great, that's awesome.Yeah, but you know, I
got the same way with Sean Conneryafter probably three or four movies. I
was just like, oh my gosh, I'm ready for the next guy.
And now that we're on the nextguy, I'm ready for the next guy.
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Well, I do not like thatwith with with like love interests in
your real life. Yeah, metoo, Glad you're like, oh god,
another day with Dave. Pay forthe next guy. No, I'm
not like that at all. Ofwhat why didn't you tell me we were
married? Because you are so weirdand different? Let me go soun insurance
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policy. Want'll leave you good?Want'll leave you good. We do not
live in the formula that is JamesBond. Yes, we do not the
James Bond formula. We have ourformula. But yeah, there's still weird
stuff. You still say weird thingsthat surprise me and make me laugh hard.
Fair enough. Yeah, oh stoppatting me. It's weird. Sorry,
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it makes me feel weird. Sorrythat was a pat of comfort and
encouragement. I wasn't. I thoughtit was a patronizing pat No, you
poor a little Weirdoh no, youkeep me just interested enough. No,
not to poison your coffee. Idon't drink it. I don't know how
to poison things. I like,Oh, that's your reason for not doing
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it too, I don't know howto do though. You got you gotta
do it slowly, then you gottamake it untraceable anyway, final thoughts.
Uh, but my rating is oneone genetically superior sperm out of five.
All right, mine is two pigtailbraids out of five. Oh nice,
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thank you, two missing braces outof five. So that brings my ranking.
And I God, I didn't thinkit was gonna happen, but it
did. Uh. Thunderball has beenhas been upended? Yeah, like and
I was, I was. Weactual struggling. We actually had to think,
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what do we like the least Moonrakeror Casino Royality? Yeah, they're
nothing has given Casino Royal sixty sevena run for its money yet except for
Moonraker. Yes, we had tothink, and I am not pleased with
that. So the ranking is assuch for me number one, doctor No.
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Number two on Her Majesty's Secret Service, number three, gold Finger,
number four, Live and Let Dienumber five. The Spy who Loved Me
Number six, The Man with theGolden Gun. Number seven from Russia with
Love. Number eight, You onlyLive twice. Number nine, diamonds are
forever number ten, Thunderball, numbereleven with a bullet, Moon Raker,
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and twelve Casino Royal sixty seven.But it was close, dude, It
was close. Mine is very similaras it has been. Yeah, number
one, Doctor No. Two onHer Majesty's Secret Service. Three, Goldfinger,
number four, Live and Let Die. Number five, The Man with
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the Golden Gun, six, TheSpy who Loved Me seven, You only
live twice Number eight from Russia withLove. Nine diamonds are Forever ten,
Thunderball, eleven, Moonraker, twelveCasino Royal sixty seven, sixty seven Love.
We haven't watched the other one yet. Well, I don't I know,
but I don't want people to justtune in randomly and be like,
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WHOA tune in randomly? What doyou think this is like cable TV?
Yeah, that's how our brain works. For those just tuning in, that
was Casino Royal sixty seven. Mm. Any one coming back from the commercial
break, Let's get to the triviaman. This thing had a budget of
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thirty four million dollars and it grows, it grows, two hundred and ten
point three million. Would they putthat money in the space station? Oh
God, good night, Oh y'all. And that is just so I think,
I believe the Spy who Loved Me. That was already a jump,
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that was already nearly double what thebudget from the previ movie was. It
costs more than the first eight Bondmovies. Oh my gosh, man thirty
put together million. That is justan insane but budget compared to the other
one. Their net profit margin wasstill eighty three point eighty three percent.
Good gosh. Their net profit wasone hundred and seventy six million, three
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hundred dollars. I mean, whatwas wrong? Three hundred thousand dollars.
The profit percentage was five five eighteenpoint fifty three percent, which is the
first time in a really long timeit hasn't been, if ever, under
a thousand percent. Except for afew brief close ups. The entire sequence
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of Bond Jaws and the pilot fallingfrom the plane with Bond of the pilot
fighting for a single parachute was shotin freefall. But yep, I was
going to ask, but I didn't. I felt like that was a stupid
question. If that was real.It looked real most of the time.
Yeah, because there was a coupleof shots that close ups it was clear
it was like a projector. Yeah, but most of it looked oh my
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gosh, they said. The sevenpound camera for those sequences was mounted on
the helmet of another skydiver, anda few shots are of the cameraman's own
arms and legs. Stunt a stuntmanJake Lombard and bj Wirth were parachutes concealed
within their suits. The parachute overwhich they fought was actually a dummy shute,
which had to be removed before beforethe stuntman could use the real parachute
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underneath. Stuntman Jake Lombard would dawnand remove the dummy shoote up to three
times in a single jump. Theactual parachutes used by the stuntmen had a
maine and reserve shoot concealed within thesuit coats. A breakaway seam ran down
the back, which allowed the parachuteto be opened without the need to remove
the coat. There were only sixtyto seventy seconds of free fall time between
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when the stunt performers exited the aircraftand when they had to activate their shoes.
After factoring in the time needed toget the performers and cameramen into position
after leaving their plane, only afew seconds of film could be shot per
jump. Therefore, the entire sequenceacquired eighty jumps, like god, and
five weeks to film just to producethe two minutes of footage in the final
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film. Oh my gosh, don'tyou just wish that had been in a
better movie? Yes, Like thatis epic, dude, Oh my gosh,
Like and that is freaking dedication.That's probably where a huge amount of
their budget went to Adams. Gosh, that's incredible. And man, I
feel like those stuntmen or like whateverthey were getting paid, it probably was
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not enough. Probably not, man, I you know, I think it.
I don't. I don't know thatI would have wanted this during this
stunt, but I think it stillwould have looked cool if they could have
worked it in maybe in another film. Uh, to have someone jumping out
of a plane and you you're like, I mean maybe a bond thing.
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It could have been one of hisgadgets. You're like, oh no,
they kicked him out of the planeand he doesn't have a parachute, and
then you find out that it's likeunder his suit, right, But yeah,
unzips is flying a propeller comes outnow like what you said about like
the suit coats, I don't know, like the parachute could like go through
the back of it and it wouldjust be like, WHOA cool. I
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think that would be a really coolstunt man. Yeah, Oh dude,
that whole thing is so cool.And uh, how sad that it was
in this garbage film? Yep thatI just feel like it's just wasted.
I mean, I don't know.I'm not saying it shouldn't have been in
here, because I'm glad it existssomewhere. It just really sucks that it
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wasn't in a better film, becausethat is really cool. Yeah. The
cable that Jaws bit, it wasmade of liquoricure. Oh okay, here
we go again, Here we goagain. This was the highest grossing Bond
movie up until the release of GoldenNine nineteen ninety five. Oh y'all,
was there nothing else to watch?And seventy nine? Oh gosh, all
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right, Bernar. This was BernardLee's final appearance as m He died when
for Your Eyes Only in nineteen eightyone was in pre production. Oh,
I'm sorry guy, Yeah, he'sbeen with it for since the beginning.
Producer Albert Broccoli called Steven Spielberg requestingpermission to use the indelible five note late
motif from our lightmotif? Is itlightmotifs? Lightmotif? I think light.
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Yeah. I'm not saying I knowthat word. I just that's how I
would sound it out. Producer AlbertBroccoli called Steven Spielberg requesting permission to use
the indelible fight five note lightmotif fromClose Encounters of the Third Kind. As
I mentioned earlier, Broccoli wanted touse it as the entry code for an
electronic laboratory door lock and a scenein this movie. Several years later,
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Spielberg called Broccoli requesting permission to usethe double O seventh theme for a scene
in a movie he was producing titledThe Goonies. Broccoli pointed out that there
were more than five notes in thedouble seventh theme. Oh God, what
a tool. Spielberg was suspected thatproducer's tongue wasmly planted in his cheek as
he continued to banter. Okay,he was right, so yeah, he
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was. He was being nice.He might Steven Spielberg full I don't recall
that though. It's been a longtime since I've seen the Goonies all the
way through. I have not seenthe Goonies all the way through since I've
started watching the Bond films, soI've never seen the Goonies all the way
through. Tragic, But every timeI've ever caught any of it, none
of them were transparent, so Icouldn't see them all the way through.
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Go on to the next, Sir. Roger Moore arrived a few days late
for the shooting Rio de Jan Arrow, Brazil, due to a kidney stone
attack in France. More I know, that's what I was thinking, Like,
you could have just couldn't get outof sidney stone. He couldn't get
out of his hotel room because therewere kidney stones attacking the hotel. Oh
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my gosh, were bombing the lobby. Oh my gosh. I mean that's
rough, but I'm sorry, itjust really detracts from what the situation is
by saying kidney stone attack. Yeah. Moore also had a renal colic attack
while filming Live and Let Die.Once he arrived in Rio de Janeiro.
He literally walked off of the plane, went into makeup and hair, got
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fitted out, and went back ontothe plane and was then filmed arriving in
Rio de Janeiro as James Bond forthe movie Okay. Jaws was supposed to
be Bond's arch nemesis in this movieuntil director Lewis Gilbert started paying attention to
some of the fan mail he wasgetting from small children asking why he couldn't
be a good guy instead of abad guy. Wow, pander into that
audience, buddy. He was like, Nope, there are toys in this.
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Barbara Bach was originally scheduled to makea brief appearance as Anya Amasova,
the character she played in The SpyWho Loved Me, but the idea was
dropped only a few weeks after sorry, a few weeks before filming began.
According to the book The Bond Files, her character was going to be the
woman shown in bed with General Gogelin the scene where where he moans to
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his British counterpart that he's having troublesleeping. I'd have been kind of roslow.
Yeah, I'm like, oh,she is she better than that?
Melinda Maxwell, the daughter of LoisMaxwell, who played Miss Monypenny was one
of Drax's master race specimens. Ohshoot, Penny, she had like that.
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Okay, she had it like that? Yeah, Okay. So apparently
in Saint Mark Square, Albert Broccoliwas wearing an untucked light blue shirt do
you remember, and Dana Broccoli wasthe woman at Saint Mark Squire along with
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family members Albert Broccoli and Michael Wilson. That tells me a whole lot.
In order to create the final shotin which the space station is destroyed,
the visual effects team locked themselves inthe studio and shot the model of the
space station to pieces using shotguns.Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah.
The final scene with Bond and Hollymaking love and zero G was the hardest
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shot of all, according to RogerMoore, where he actually felt the blood
running up to his nose and eyes. Oh well, that's the opposite direction
of where that was supposed to berunning, buddy. All right, let's
get a listener feedback from the spywho loved me, David wang Over on
Facebook on the Facebook group and findthat at a Breaking Bond Facebook group.
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Pretty straightforward. Yeah, just typehim Breaking Bond into the taskbar. There
the search bar on Facebook. TheFacebook's David Wang says, I've seen this
many many times on VHS. TheSpy who Loved Me, that is,
and because of that, I neverknew that Live and Let Die and The
Man with the Golden Gun are inone eight five one ratio, and starting
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from this one, they're all backto widescreen. There are things on wide
screen that I never dreamed of watchingin VHS for three, such as such
as the pent up posters on thebunk wall, the bunk room wall,
the topless pin up girls on thebunk room wall. Hello pre PG thirteen
erapg raiders. I didn't even noticethat. No, I didn't either.
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That's you know, wow geez.I mean, it doesn't really surprise me.
It doesn't surprise me. I justdidn't. The Abu Simbel Temple was
actually solid apart and moved to anew location because the new reservoir lake created
by the Aswan Dam would have floodedthe old site, which brings way more
plausibility that the M sixteen sorry mI six, M sixteen m I six
(51:44):
could have snuck in and put alocation base in there. Yeah, okay,
I'm willing to go with that onthe Moonraker, though, Kioki Young
on Facebook says although Moonraker has moreor less the same plot as the Spy
who Loved Me for some reason,and I find Spy cute and amusing but
can't stand Moonraker. Sure, inmy opinion, this was the epitome of
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the Bond films getting more and moreoutrageously absurd. Apparently the filmmakers realized they
couldn't possibly go any further than spaceand blessedly brought Bond quote back down to
Earth with the next movie For yourEyes Only. That is nice. Yeah,
Also, like, do you thinklike was it implied that Jaws and
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his old girl died? No theyno, They said that they were picked
up, but they were. Theyleft in an escape pod and they were
picked up. They were seeing Ohokay, cool, cool, cool cool.
No, Well, thank goodness.And I really did like it that
he ended up turning good and helpingBond at the end. I felt like
there was a plausible reason for that. Some of the trivia pointed out that
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like, while he was last seengood in the movies, he did,
like Richard Keelgan, did come backas Jaws for a video game and he
was a bad guy again, solike, I don't know, I had
this weird head cannon now to whereit's like they're like sitting at home and
she's upset and she's like, you'renot the man I fell in love with,
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and he's like, what can Ido? She's like, be's a
bad man you used to be andhe's like chewing on chains that are on
the ground. I don't want togo back to that life. I want
to continue to feed the poor.I'm working in a soup kitchen now.
She's like, but that doesn't paynearly as good as hinching. And that's
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what happens. Yeah, and itshocks him back into hinching because those are
the most words she has ever said, right, And as he like walks
out to go find gainful but disreputable, you know, employment, he mutters,
here's to us, sure guy,Sure yeah. David Wayne says I
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credit this film for single handedly teachingme the expression good god. David Wayne
also says bonfires a regular gun inthe film exactly one time. Wow,
I didn't even notice. I didn'teither, I didn't even notice. I
just kept going where space. Andthen once they were in space. I
was like, why can't they goback to Earth? When's it end?
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And I've got one little, onelittle last piece of feedback I want to
get too. Um. Sean Bumperson the Facebook group says, strength training
this morning while listening and call meMint and Jelly almost caused a terrible accident.
That was fantastic. Thank you forlistening, Sean. Thank you so
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much, buddy. So glad wedid not cause you to be hurt me
too. All right, so nextepisode we'll be talking about For Your Eyes
Only nineteen eighty one, starring RogerMoore as James Bond, Carol Bouquet as
Molina Havelock, To Paul as MilosColombo, Lily Holly Johnson as Bibbye Doll
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BB Doll? What did I say, Lily Oh? Lynn Holly as Lynn
Holly Johnson as BB Doll or BibbyDoll. I think it's BBB. I
think it's it's bb when it's bb beash On Star Treks, Julian Gleb
as Aristotle Christados, directed by JohnGlynn until next time. Oh no,
(55:37):
oh no, because if so,he really should have helped on this film.
They actually had a NASA, Theyhad NASA people working on this to
get it scientifically accurate. Oh god, so they tried. Yeah, this
was them trying. I mean,the problem wasn't really the stuff as far
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as like the science necessarily, itwas just boring us crap. Yeah,
well, good on them for trying. Anyway, Until next time, don't
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