Octopussy (1983)

On THIS episode of Breaking Bond, we’ll be talking about Octopussy (1983)
Starring:
Roger Moore as MI6 agent James Bond
Maud Adams as Octopussy
Louis Jourdan as Kamal Khan
Kristina Wayborn as Magda
Kabir Bedi as Gobinda
David Meyer and Anthony Meyer as Mischka and Grischka
Steven Berkoff as General Orlov
Directed by John Glenn

As always, we're getting into the plot, the pitfalls, the triumphs, the trivia, and your feedback!

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Episode Transcript

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On this episode of Breaking Bond,we'll be talking about nineteen eighty three's Octopussy
right after. Oh wait, Iforgot how to do this? Starring I
mean starring Roger Moore, Maud Adams, Lewis, Jordan, Christina Weybourne Caber,

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Betty David Meyer, Anthony Meyer,and Stephen Burkoff as the nefarious General
Orloff directed by John Glynn. Butfirst a word from osponsor. Welcome into

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I'm David c. Robertson, I'mBadany Roberson. Hi. Hey,
we haven't seen each other what threemonths, and we're married, but we
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you know, make it, makeit monthly, and we had already made
it monthly by that at that point. And then it just became like,
yeah, we don't want to dothat, we don't want to do this.
We took a hard break. Wedidn't mean to, not for real,
No, we didn't really didn't planit. And then um, we

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just like the we just needed it. Yeah, the final Daniel Craig movie
got got postponed, and then itwas just like that gave us some time,
although probably not anymore, probably not, probably not anymore. When do
you remember when I got postponed too? I don't know. I don't know,
man, you know, it's maybeI can look it up all you're

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talking. It's one of those thingswhere I don't believe it, whatever it
is, I just don't believe it. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
We'll see what's it called again.I don't know. I've gotten some
flat now because apparently in one ofour on DC on screen, I said
we were counting down to one ofthe one movie with die in the title

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and then die Hard. It's notno No. I think I said die
another day, no time to die, No time to die, that's the
new one. Yeah, I thinkI said die another day. And I
was like, yeah, we're countingdown to die another day. I'm like,
yeah, that's not what happened.That's not what were what we're actually
doing. We're counting down to whatwas it called no Time? No time

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to die, Die Time? ButI mean, like, no judgment.
I don't remember. I won't rememberas soon as I close this Wikipedia page.
Yeah, Ronnie Mallock is going tobe in it. I don't know
who that is. It's Nate Um. Freddie Mercury, the guy's a different
Freddie Mercury. Oh, Freddie Mercuryis no longer with and he was in

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a TV series about a robot thing. Oh, I'm sorry, I don't
know the name of it. Yeah, speaking and no longer with us.
We lost Sean. Yeah, man, I was sad about that. Yep,
me too, but I was Iwas somehow, like really weirdly pleased,
sad, but pleased at the ironythat Alex Trebek passed away like a

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week after. Oh yep, Idon't think they ever met in real life.
The pen is mightier, Yeah,the penis Mightier. Yeah. I
liked Alex Trebek. I liked SeanConnery. I'm sorry both of them died.
Yeah, although, uh, um, what what a great life Sean

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Connery led, maybe as far asI know. I mean, I don't
know about his personal life, butI think he lived to be about ninety.
And what was he like in theBahamas when he passed away or something?
Yes, I don't remember now doesn'tsound too terrible, but I mean
he'd been sick for a while.Yeah, but uh, quite a legend.
M definitely a legend, by theway. Circling back around, um,

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uh what's it called again? NoTime to Die. As of right
now, the release date is Aprilsecond, twenty twenty one, So yeah,
I don't believe that we'll see Idon't believe it. That is crap,
that is not happening. I thinkwithout scrolling through Sean Connery's entire list

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of works. Probably my favorite thingand what I have always known him for
was Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. Yeah, that's how I know him.
He's pop yea, and like thebest impression I can do with him
is just this Junia and that iswho Sean Connery is to me. Yeah,

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So kind of looking forward ish towatching like his Thunderball remake, that's
the next one we're going to bewatching, because that one that was pretty
close to when he did Last Crusade, right, just a few years separate.
What was what was Crusade eighty nine? I think so definitely in the
eighties, Yeah, something that cameout the same time A Star Trek five,

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Batman, Ghostbusters two. It waslike the summer of Blockbusters and uh,
Star Trek five got short shrift.Well, if it's eighty nine and
that was the year of the LittleMermaid too, that's right, another classic.
Yep, there are many classics.Eighty nine. Yeah, So I
think that'll be interesting seeing him justa few years separated, going from playing
James Bond to being Indiana Jones's dad. And I never knew that he was

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tall. He just always seemed reallyshort, or at least in my mind,
my memory of him as Indie's popwas that he was really short.
I mean that's like, that's probablybecause Harrison Ford is like seven feet dollar.
Yeah. Yeah, shall we getto this review. Let me give

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a shout out to Finding Forrester.Oh god, oh I did at that
time. I mean, I knowthere are so many this this is not
just solely a cast about remembering SeanConnery, but I know there are so
many more things he was in.Yep. Just yeah. And you know,

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the thing I probably saw the most, saw him the most end was
that Barbara Walter's interview where he happilyexplained that he slaps his wife when she
gets out of hand. Oh mygoodness. Yeah, the last Crusade was
eighty nine. I showed that toeveryone I knew was like, what at
this guy? He is just likehappily. She's like, don't you regret

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saying that now? And he's like, no, sometimes women get out of
hand and you have to put themin their place. They're like, oh,
buddy, don't say that. Man, that's bad, that's horrible.
She's kind of um kind of justis aligned a little bit with James Bond.
Yeah, it's a little bit bonded. That explains a lot about the

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way he portrayed that charat Yeah,okay, so yeah, all right,
so uh, let's talk about Octopussyall right? There were eight of them?
No, um, now, ohgod, let's do this, al
I mean, come on, y'all, it would be difficult to make it
through an entire episode without making somekind of joke. Sure, and there

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it was. I doubt that willbe the last. Let let's go to
this Wikipedia synopsis. While trying toescape from East to West Berlin, British
agent Double O nine dies in theresidence of the British Ambassador, dressed as
a circus clown and carrying a fakeFaberge egg in my six. Immediately suspects

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Soviet involvement, and after seeing thereal egg appear at an auction in London.
Since James Bond to identify the sellerat the auction, Bond swaps the
real egg for a fake one andsubsequently engages in a bidding war with exiled
Afghan Prince Kamal Khan, forcing conto pay five hundred thousand pounds for the
fake egg. Dude, that wasawesome. Yeah, that was really cool.

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That was like, I don't know, it was just it was really
cool because the guy who was withBond was like, what are you doing?
And Bond is just like playing coolthe whole time. Yeah, like
I thought I suspected he had tobuy it. Yeah, let's just see
what he does. I want toknow how bad he wants it. By
the way, I don't know whatstruck me differently, just when you said
the word egg. But I justimmediately, like after watching this whole film,

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never thought about it, and thenright now you reading the synopsis,
I'm just taken to um arrested development. When when poor Michael Sarah's girlfriend.
Yeah, and you can't remember it, Bland egg her egg. Michael just

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calls her egg, calls her allkinds of things. Okay, all right,
So at this point, and I'mI'm showing my hand a little bit.
I see there's our back, heykid, all right, So I'm
tipping my hand a little bit.I'm showing my cards a little bit.
But at this point I'm still onboard the movie. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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Yeah. We were both into itfor sure. Yeah, Like I
dug double O nine being in deep, being like undercover in a circus as
a clown yea, and the TwinsI do. I like twins is one
of those freaks of nature type ofsituations. You know, it's really cool.
Like I've always kind of wished Ihad a twin. Yeah. So,

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like, even though the show iscrap, when you're beinging sister,
sister, I can't help but stopand watch Fresh Yeah. Yeah, just
man, all the things that couldhappen if you had a twin, an
identical twin. Yeah. I've beenkind of, you know, a little
bit low key obsessed with it eversince. I mean yeah, but ever
since I was a kid and Iwas watching Patti Duke. I was like,
what is happening? Yeah, thisis real. Hey do you know?

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Um? I don't. I'm notsure you ever met Linda, who
used to go to our church.She has two girls who are identical.
They are I guess it's like likescientifically or like whatever the term is.
They are classified as identical twins.But to me, they don't even look
like they are related. That's reallyweird. They're just both girls with blonde
hair. That is strange. Yeah, that's weird, man, that's weird.

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I mean, they're like kind ofthe same height. But then that's
about it, all right, yeah, all right, so yeah, I
love the I love the opening,the opening absolutely, the opening chase with
Bond flying around in that like alittle tiny plane. Yes, and then
like parking it and going heck yeahthe amazing That was great. Loved all

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of that. Um yeah, man, all that was cool. Yep.
That was fun and it was exciting. There was good action and I was
like, oh, man, alwayswith the Faberge egg. Those eggs are
always causing so much trouble. Yeah, and he was. He was awesome
at the at the auction, Dougall that. Yeah, all right,
let's go. Good stuff. Bondfollows Cohn back to his palace us and

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uh where Bond defeats Con in agame of back game and all of that
I loved. Yeah, I lovethat when he put the egg on the
table as collateral and the guy waslike, oh you piece of crass,
watches him. Yeah, so good, spend your money quickly, mister Bond.
Yeah, and then Bond is like, I prefer it in cash.
Yeah, let's see. That's that'sall like good stuff, all good,

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all great, all great stuff.Also wanted to point out Roger Moore at
this point is fifty six years old. Yeah, yeah, and I think
do we just have one more moreto go? Yeah? One or more?
Yeah. They they were wanting toget rid of him this time,
oh wow. Yeah, and thenthey didn't because of the Sean Connery movie.

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They were scared. They didn't wantto like add another like variable end
that being a new Bond, gotcha. So they were like, now we're
competing with Sean Connery as James Bondwith a rival studio. We've got to
have more back, gotcha. Iknow. Let's see I hear as does
everyone Bond escapes with his contact VJ, foiling the attempts of CON's bodyguard Gobinda

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to kill the pair. Okay,so as at this point and they gloss
over all that it's at this pointof the movie runs off the rails for
me. Yeah, because as we'relike driving through, like as we're doing
this chase sequence, which is coolat first, and then like I think
the first big like red flag islike all of like the whole crowd of

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people who were in the square justlike doing double tags, and then the
camel's doing a double tag, andthen they're like animals and reacting to the
things and it gets real like silly. Yeah, it gets real silly.
Yeah. Um, And I'm notsure where exactly it happens, but somewhere

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in there Bonda swinging on a treeand does the Tarzan yell, which is
to me that was which to mewas worse than the slide whistle. I
agree, it was very bad.It was real bad. I mean it
was very clearly just a clip fromTarzan. I don't know, I don't
know if that was what that was, but it was bad whatever it was.

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Yeah, it was awful. Likewhen there's that scene where they like
drive that car and it like fliesover into the water and it almost hits
the stunt man in the boat.Yeah, the guy just barely gets out.
That was real, by the way, that guy just barely got away.
But when he, like I swear, I was like, it's gonna

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be JW. Pepper, ain't it. I mean, I guess it's enough
for me no one that we neversee him again. But yeah, like
I knew we didn't see him again, and I was just like, this
movie is so stupid. I wonderif they wanted it to be here anyway.
Bond is seduced by CON's associate Magdaand notices that she has a blue

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ringed octopus tattoo her little octopus asshe puts it YEP. Bond permits Magna
to steal the real Faberge egg fittedwith listening and tracking devices by Q,
while Gobinda captures and takes Bond toKhan's palace. After Bond escapes from his
room, he listens in on thebug and discovers that Khan is working with
Orlov, a general, a Sovietgeneral who was seeking to expand Soviet control

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in Europe. Not to me,all of that stuff was at least somewhat
interesting. Yeah, like yeah,I wasn't fallen off yet, right,
No, that that chase sequence wasrough, But then like Bond, like,
dude, I loved when he wentto Magda's room and was like perhaps

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a nightcap, and the dude likeput his arm in front of him.
He's like okay, and they goback to Bond's room and he's like,
I don't suppose you'd like a nightcap. That was hilarious. I was like
on the edge of my seat.I know he's not gonna die, but
still like when he like went outthe window and was like crawl like was
like scooting along the edge in thedark and like looking in windows, and
then like all the lights turned onand the helicopter was coming. Like I

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was in suspense. I was like, oh, oh, get out of
that light, Bond and out ofthat lay. I was like feeling it,
you know. Yeah, And thenhe so smooth, He's gonna sneak
into what's her face's room and likesneak right past her and go out the
door and follow him down into thebasement. I loved all of that,
Like that's all really cool. Idug it. Yeah, let's see where
we at? Where we at?Um Bond infiltrates a floating palace and what

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is that? What is that word? Upoor? Like maybe that's my best
guess. Apologies, yep, Andthere finds this owner. Octopusy, a
wealthy businesswoman, smuggler, and associateof Khn. She also leaves the Octopus
Cult, of which Magna is amember. Octopusy has a personal connection with
Bond. She is the daughter ofthe late Major Dexter Smithe, whom Bond

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was assigned to arrest for treason.Bond allows the Major to commit suicide rather
than face trial and octopusy thanks himfor offering her father an honorable, honorable
alternative, inviting Bond to stay onas her guest. I liked all of
that. I did too, althoughI was a little bit surprised that she
just so readily accepted him, likeeverybody else in her group was after him,

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um except for her. She waseven like kind of rooting for him.
Oh yeah, no, Like itwas totally like a Batwoman catwoman batman
catwoman type of thing. Yeah.I thought that was interesting or Batman Tala
more like you know, like shewas like, ah, you get you
gave my father an honorable death.Yeah, like I dug that. And
she's, you know, she's tellinghim like I'm not a criminal by your

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standards, Like yeah, I'm asmuggler. Yeah, Like I'm a simple
smuggler. You know, I've brokenno English laws. I like it that.
Like for her, she felt likeshe could judge what kind of person
he was because of what he haddone for her father, And she was
just like, yeah, I don'tcare about everybody else. I trust you.

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Yeah. And she knows his reputationwith me clearly, Like because when
when Kamal Khan tells her who hewas she like stops feeding the octopus for
a minute, like you could seeher hand react, which look, maybe
it was because the actress had beenin a previous more film, but I
feel like that was even more ofa reason not to do it. They
like really built up her reveal.Yeah, they did. And I didn't

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even realize i't till he read thetrivia that she had been in another one.
Right, So I was so whenshe I see her, I'm just
like, I mean, she's sorrygirl, she hot and all, but
who did So I thought it wasgonna be like a big reveal and I
was like, surely it's not Magdabecause she had the tattoo. So I'm
like, that would be real sillyif they were like broadcasting that. And

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they didn't. But it was stilllike, okay, cool whatever. Yeah,
but they didn't. Even when whenwe saw the reveal, it was
just like here she is on screen. Yep. It was weird. Ye.
By the way, is there somesort of like super villain like outlet
where like all of the male Bondvillains get the same freaking suit that Doctor

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No War from, Like they're allwearing the same thing. Yeah, Like
every time we see blow felt he'swearing what Doctor No wore everything. I'd
like to see a super villain whojust dresses like a hobo. Just they
usually just dressed so nicely. Iguess it's maybe so people won't suspect them,
or because they have a lot ofmoney so they want to dress prominently,
right, but like just just giveme, give me like a ripped

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jeans and like old T shirt wearingsuper villain. Yeah, yeah, I
really liked uh two of the ladieslooking like Thing one and Thing two from
a Cat and the hat. Andthen at the end they were like a
lot of those girls, yeah wherethey had like the like the totally like
like the red Yeah. It waslike yeah, yeah, they had like

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a little symbol in the middle likefrom one thing too. Yeah. They
were like Power Ranger, Amazon,Doctus Creatures Hid. All right, let's
that's a cult I want to bea part of. Oh gosh. It
was like looking at him, like, what are you guys supposed to be?
We're in the octopussy cult? Yo? Wait what but there we're like,

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Okay, I guess I'll leave thatfrom when we get when we get
to that part, I mean Ikind of feel like I'm all over the
place too, So this is whateveryou want to do, I'm keeping it.
I'm gonna try to keep it insequence David okay d Earlier in Khan's
Palace and later an Octopussy's Palace,Bond finds out that Orlov has been supplying
Con with priceless Soviet treasures, replacingthem with replicas, while Kan has been

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smuggling the real versions into the Westvia Octopusy's circus troop. Orlav is planning
to meet Con at karl mak Stotin Germany, sorry in East Germany,
where the circus is scheduled to perform. Gobinda sends mercenaries to kill Bond,
but he an Octopusy gained the upperhand. When the assassins break into the
palace, Bond learns from Q thatVJ has been killed by the goons.

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Well, I must have been arough death, yeah, dude, Like
he survived that freaking yo yo sawyo yo saw, which one of the
dumbest things I've seen in this franchise. Yeah, whatever, especially the way
they were like overdramatizing the use ofit. He's like, I will use
my yo yo saw to cut thispicture and then that other guys like such

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a weird scene. I wonder iflike some of that was cut out because
it was just so abrupt. Iknow. I do wonder because the guy
who had the Yo Yo saw hurthimself and they didn't want him to continue,
and he was like, no,no, I can finish my I
can finish my scenes. Oh mygod. I do wonder if like some
of it was unusable or if theylike cut down some of the scenes because

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like he was injured. I don'tknow, like because it feels like he
and Bond should have had a faceoff. But I don't even think we
ever see that dude again, dowe like he after he kills VJ.
I don't think we ever seen No, No, we do. They do
have a face off, dude,they yeah, remember that. It's when
Bond it's like right around um whereyour synopsis is. They go back into

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um Octopussy's room and like so they'relike other goons chasing around Bond and then
Yo Yo Saw, a man islike trying to get is trying to get
Bond with his saw and instead ofyo, name is yeah, oh yeah,
yeah, Okay, maybe maybe you'llremember from this, so bond and

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Octopussy. You're in the bed together, and remember, drip of water comes
down from the saw and hits himin the face. Yeah, and he
like pushes her off the bed andhe's like, no, I do remember
that. Yeah, that's when theyhad Yeah, that's when they were having
a face off. Oh yeah,it was like it was almost a literal
face off. It was maybe maybeabout five minutes long. Okay, yeah,

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yeah, there was a little bit, but I don't I think after
that that was all we saw ofhim. Yeah, good job, I
just walked myself right into a Davym earlier. Do we already read that?
Yes? I think we did.Yeah, I think you got to.
Uh yes, Okay. Traveling toEast Germany, Bond infiltrates the Circus

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and finds out that Orlav has replacedthe Soviet treasures with the nuclear warhead primed
to explode during the circus show outof US Air Force space in West Germany.
The explosion would trigger Europe into seekingunilateral disarmament in the belief that the
bomb was a US one that detonatedby accident, which is a kind of
a brilliant plan, leaving US bordersopen to a Soviet invasion. Yeah,

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I really liked that notion when theywere like, don't you know, the
US will retaliate and he's like,Orlava is like retaliate against whom right,
And they're like, ah, yeah, I see what you're doing. I
really I really appreciated the plans ofthe villains in this movie. Like I
liked the villain I liked. Iliked that there was more than one,

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but it was because they were workingtogether in a group. Yeah. I
liked it that one of the villainswas interested in Bond. One of the
villains double crossed the other one.I really liked. I really liked all
of the villain stuff in this movie. And I liked it that there wasn't

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like a ridiculous super villain plan tolike blow up the Earth and have everyone
live on the moon, or likedestroy continents so everyone can live underwater,
or like something just really stupid likethat. It was just like, yeah,
man, we're kind of being jewelssmugglers to get to like the bigger,

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better plan. Yeah, No onewas strapping a young girl to an
egg beater on top of the Statueof Liberty to turn all of the world's
leaders into mutants. Sure that didnot happen, that's correct. That was
from two thousands X men. Thatsounded familiar. It was awful. Yeah.
I liked the villains. Yeah theywere fun. Kamal Kan and Orlov

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was fun. Ye, I likedhim. I they were a multicultural.
One was a lady. Yeah,that's true. That's true. Alrighty where
did I go? Where did Igot? Bond takes Orlov's car, drives
it along the train tracks and boardersthe moving circus train. Orlov gives chase,

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but is killed at the border byEasterman guards after they mistake Orlov for
a defector. I mean he wasa trader. Yeah. Bond kills the
twin knife throwing assassins Mishka and Grishka, and after falling from the train,
commandeers a car to get to theair base. Bond penetrates the base and
disguises himself as a clown. Okay, let's just pull it off. First
of all, is there do youknow is it possible it? Does it

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make sense for a card to loseits tires and then just like drive along
the tracks of a training track likethat? Does that make I'm leaning toward
No, I am too. Itseemed real dumb, but not as dumb
as like we've got five minutes,how about to take twenty minutes to put
on clown makeup? Right, andlike even iculous even include like the tear

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drop his oh my gosh, comeon, like we all was weird.
We know that he had less thansix minutes left on that bomb timer.
Yeah, and I didn't even realizeit until it was toward the end,
and I was like, hey,man, I mean, I guess this
guy is a pro with like gettingdressed and undressed really fast, but like

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the clown makeup to the clown makeupand under five minutes and he still got
time to do all of this,Shanannery, like, come on, that
is unlikely. He just guises himselfas a clown to evade the West German
police. He attempts to convince Octopussythat con has betrayed her by showing her
one of the treasures found in Orlov'scar, which she was to smuggle for

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him. Octopussy realizes that she hasbeen tricked and assists Bond and deactivating morehead.
Bond and Octopussy returned, Okay,hold on, before we get back,
I just remembered that idiot general who'sjust like she stole my wallet,
right. That was embarrassing, dude, And like no one believed him that
there was a bomb. I mean, I know this was nineteen eighty three,

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but I feel like in today's world, and even like the last fifteen
to twenty years, if you saysomething about a bomb scare, everybody goes
crazy. Well yeah they believe you. Yeah, now, yeah, we've
all octopussy? Is that the turningpoint? It wasn't nine to eleven or
the Boston bombing or Oklahoma City.Things have happened since nineteen eighty three,

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but I mean they were they wereon a military base, and I don't
know, man, I just itwas frustrating to me that no one was
believing this man, Like, atleast say, this man might be crazy,
but we should at least check outwhat he's saying so we can rule
it out that it's not real.No one can take a clown seriously.

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And yeah, that general guy wasa real dufus man. That was That
was embarrassing, kind of offensive tome. Yeah, but yeah, lots
of significant things, first and foremostbeing since this movie came out, I
was born and draw As I've statedseveral times, I am the bomb.
Oh no, yes, the rustlingyou're hearing right now is me drawing up

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divorce faces. She can't handle it. She can't handle it, okay.
Oh oh and then, oh god, what was I gonna I don't know,
I was gonna say something else thatwas you just yeah, I don't

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know. There was maybe some otherstuff about the bomb, the things.
Oh, here's what it was.Got it back. Oh. I know
that it's really important in it,Like if this were real life, if
there was a situation like that,it's very important to try to keep everyone
calm so they don't trample each other. But I felt like they really underplayed

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that. They all almost died,like they were half a second away from
exploding from a bomb. Yeah,that no one believed was there, And
the announcer was just like, hey, guys, we had an unfortunate thing
that just happened, but we're okaynow, police find the eggs. It's
something I think that is that's prettyprotocol. Yeah, no, what most

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of the people there hadn't realized whathad actually happened. Yeah, so like,
yeah, just get everybody out ofthere as quickly and calmly as possible.
That's a good call. That wasThat was solid. Yeah, I
mean I'm not expecting anyone to comeover the loudspeaker and be like, hey,
y'all just almost died, so uh, you know, go get like
a really nice meal after this tocelebrate. But I don't know, I

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felt like it was just really underplayed. You almost died, Hug your loved
ones, pet your pants, Thankyou dog. That was well timed.
Behind an Octopusy returned separately to India. Bonda arrives at Khan's palace just as
Octopusy and her troops have launched anassault on the grounds. Awesome, totally

(30:26):
awesome, so awesome. That waslike, you know Themiscia man, just
like freaking the Amazons. But innineteen eighty three, yeah, Octopusy attempts
to kill Kahn, but is capturedby Gobinda. While by the way,
I'm not sure if Gobinda sounds likea drug, that's me that has like

(30:47):
several side effects that you know withGobinda you may have dry mouth, animal
bleeding, antal sleeping. Gobinda isnot meant to be used as a dietary
supplement, but you may lose upto twelve pounds using it. I just
lost twelve pounds using Gobinda. Ohoh oh, go band, do not

(31:12):
use Gobinda if you are allergic togo Benda. Umms Gobinda, make calls
yo yo saw all right, umthat doesn't even make sense. Con and

(31:33):
go Binda a band of the palace, taking Octopussy as a hostage. But
why Bond pursues them as the attemptto escape in their plane, clinging to
the fuselage and disabling the ailerons.I guess that's how you say that and
elevator panels. In the subsequent strugglewith Bond, Gobinda takes the deadly plummet
off the roof of the plane,hen Bond rescues Octopussy from KHN, the

(31:56):
pair jumping onto a nearby cliff,only seconds before the plane crashes into a
mountain, killing Con. Okay,so they just glossed over a whole bunch
of stupid crap where it was likeokay, So it's like, you know,
for a second, Bond is TomCruise. He's like cludging to the
plane. You're like, that's terrifying. Would you say he was a Bond

(32:19):
Tom Cruise? What what I've beenlistening to Zach to the Future podcast and
uh. There's an episode in thefirst season where Zach uses, uh,

(32:40):
all right, well that story peteredout, so anyway stop. Oh my
gosh, I just forgot the wordshe uh he uses like coded messaging in
a tape to uh. He hewants to use it for Kelly, so

(33:00):
Kelly will want to take him tothe I believe it is a Sadie Hawkins
dance. And he says that ZachMorris is a blonde Tom Cruise. Oh
wow, that is that was closeTom Cruise. Yeah, but that is
like such a out of context reference, like I know I would have.

(33:22):
No, I don't know. It'sbetter than doublemb No. No, mine
was way better. No, mine'sbetter because it talks about saved by the
Bell. No, sorry, Idisagree. Yours is a week nineties reference
that we all wish had not happened. So was yours? Um? Season
one of that version of Say theBell was from nineteen eighty nine, last

(33:45):
year of eighties. This is thenineties anyway, you know apparently you know,
uh what who the guy that Ican't remember stupid name? Now,
the guy that wrote the Ready Playerone novels. In the second novel.
He says, you know, becausethose movies are all based around like pop
culture stuff and the they he refersto the Batman movie as nineteen ninety and

(34:08):
it was totally nineteen eighty nine,so like credibility lost. Yeah, even
more shame, Like already he didn'tknow how to write female characters and his
movie was I mean, his bookwas pretty like one dimensional. And but
you know, getting that year wrongis just unforgivable. Ye anyway, because

(34:29):
as we have established, nineteen eightynine was a fantastic year. It was
a great year. Um. Butyeah, no, I'm pretty sure that
none of that crap that happened ontop of that plane was was possible?
Sure, Like just the fight ontop of the plane, yeah was.
I mean that plane's going pretty fast, dude. Like I was scoffing,

(34:51):
like in the Wolverine when like Wolverinewas I was scoffing in this movie when
they were on the train fighting,And I always have scoffed to those things.
Would you say there was a manon the wing of the plane.
No, there was no, Well, yes, in this movie there was
some thing. Hey, I thinkit's awesome we've made it this far.
Without making some kind of Star Trekcon reference. I know, and I've

(35:13):
almost done it, like yeah,four or five times. Yeah, I've
been real proud of us. Andyeah, you just did it. That's
okay, that's no, it wasprofessionally done. That was done. That
was a good shout out. Okay. Yeah. So, while m in
general Gogel discussed the transport of theJewelry, Bond recuperates with octopusy aboard her

(35:38):
private boat in India. Yeah.So, yeah, once again Bond is
on the water, making out withthe lightning, getting his wig wet.
He's on the water, That's whatthat means. Okay, clearly faking his
injuries. He's getting down with hiswop. He traded a PPK. We're

(36:00):
a lot. This time it works, Yes, it does. Octopus.
Is this a good introduction to JamesBond? I think so. I think
it's yeah. I think it isbased on this movie. Would you want

(36:21):
to keep watching the franchise? Iwould? Um. I'll say it was
kind of a roller coaster ride forme. Yeah. I think you and
I are of the same opinion here. We started out really enjoying it,
we were into it. The middlewas kind of terrible at places. Yeah,
probably about the forty minute mark wereally started to struggle, probably until

(36:45):
maybe twenty minutes before it was over. Yeah, we literally had to pause
so you could sleep for like twohours. Yeah, y'all. I had
to take a nap. It putme to bed man. So we're talking
about like probably about fifty five tosixty percent of the movie. I'm not
really into in the middle part.Hey, yeah, but it was just

(37:05):
like intermittent like oh, that's cool. Yeah, and like like I liked
when he went into the freezer andthose dudes were hanging dead. Oh yeah,
and then like that was cool andcreepy. But then he like sneaks
into a body bag and as they'relike throwing him over the hill, like
he like before they throw him,he like goes bogaty boghatie or whatever,
and like, dude, you've gotlike a whole army of dudes and you
can hear them like clacking their gunsand like you know, rustling around getting

(37:30):
ready to go elephant hunting, like, which was a little like where they
tracking him because they said like,oh, he's escaped, I we'll track
him. And then they're all likegoing on an elephant hunt. I'm like,
where are you going to look forBond or an elephant? Okay,
oh my god, But you knowwhat, he makes himself completely known to
everyone. It makes no sense.I'm like, just let him throw your
limp body. You've survived worst Bond, yeah, or find another way out.

(37:55):
Well, this I don't know.This movie, like many of the
others have watched, U suffers,in my opinion, just from being too
long. Yep, it was twohours and ten minutes long. I think
if they had cut out like halfan hour, that's still a really good
movie length, and I think itwould have been a lot easier to watch.
And I think if they had madeit half an hour, it would

(38:15):
have been a really good length andway easier. Right, Yeah, but
still it was. It was stillgood enough to where it would not determine
from watching other Bond films. Yeah, I don't think, Like if this
has been the first one I'd everseen, I may have just not gone

(38:37):
back to more. Yeah, Imay have just been like, yeah,
maybe I'll watch one in the future. But it would have been years.
Yeah, it would have been yearsbefore I gave it a shot. Again.
Would you recommend this movie to anyoneyou love, I think so,
I don't think I would, Okay, I'd be like, I mean,
if you're a completist and you wantto watch all the things, yeah yeah
yeah, but probably not if youYeah, it's it's about mid level for

(39:00):
me. In the Bond films,it wasn't my favorite, it's not my
least favorite. So I thought allthe actors did a pretty good job.
Though I enjoyed all of them.I agree. Um, yeah, I
did make a short list of scenesthat made us look at each other like,
what what is happening? We cantalk about that in our favorite scenes
or least favorite scenes. Oh,I already have those. Those are different.

(39:24):
Wow, okay, sure, goahead. Yeah, so these are
scenes that I mean, y'all,I'm sure y'all know what I'm talking about
because you can't see my face,but you know when you're watching something and
you just have to look at theother person to be like you saw that,
right, Yeah, what is happening? Yeah? Okay, we already
talked about one of them, thefreaking Tarzian scream, ridiculous, um dude

(39:46):
Octopussy singing that her dad gave herthat name. Yeah, y'all, yeah,
please I not only do I notwant my anyone in my family to
give me a nickname like that,but I don't want to hear those words
coming out of my father's mouth.Yeah. Gross, I agree. I

(40:07):
don't want to hear your dad saythat either. Yeah, I don't want
to hear anybody's dad saying that.Um okay. Sticking with the octopus,
the frigging octopus being on that dude'sface and like making sucking noises and like
rocking back and forth. Yeah,that was gross. That was real gross.
That was gross and weird. Thereal like, uh blue ringed octopus

(40:29):
is only like the size of agolf ball, by the way, but
they are highly poisonous. Uh oh. We already talked about this when the
first time we see yo yo,Saul. That was a weird scene.
Um okay, Like in the intoward the end with the what were they
called the octocult octopus coult, Iguess whatever. It was awesome. But

(40:52):
there are definitely as you pointed out, there are definitely two women swinging from
a trapeeze. That was one thingbecause the top of the trap hee was
out of frame yep, and inthe middle of the appear in the middle
of the little square that was obviouslya set, and it was just like,
what are they swinging on? Thisis like nineties anime series Spider Man.

(41:15):
Yeah, what are we doing?What? Yeah? What was the
deal with that? Okay? Um, When I believe Bond first arrives in
India, I think it was VJ, who was pretending to be a snake
charmer starts playing, um the Bondthing. Yeah, Bond was like,
that's a catchy little too. Yeah. Uh oh oh god, Bond in

(41:38):
the dank crocodile see everything that you'replaying like gave me so much joy,
Like it elevated Like I mean,the Tarzan thing was awful, oh yeah,
and maybe disgusted, like the trapezgave me a lot of joy.
Yeah, I'm not saying like thecrocodile gave me a lot of joy.

(41:59):
Yeah, I mean the crocodile thingwas bad, but it was so bad
it gave me joy, like becauseit's like cheesy funny. I'm sitting there
and I see the crocodile start likeinch and up and I'm like, oh,
that looks fake as hill and thenand then his head opens and his
bond looking and I just started likeI was like, this is this is
like, oh, this is terribleand hilarious. Okay, So nearing the

(42:22):
end, when Bond and a villainfall into the water and then a crocodile
comes up and you hear one ofthem screaming, clearly it wasn't Bond.
So was that a real one?I don't because the next time we see
Bond, he's in the crocodile.I know. I was confused about that
too, So okay, I mean, like, I guess that would explain

(42:45):
why it didn't also kill Bond ifsomehow he had it rigged to like chomp
the guy. Yeah, because thatI don't. Okay. Well, so
that was a weird thing. Yep, all right, that's my list.
It was pretty weird. The cat'sreally needy tonight. She is what's her
heart? Yep. But as longas she's as long as she's in here,

(43:06):
that means she's not peeing in theliving room. That's true. That's
true. She's taken to some badhabits. Yeah. Um. We referred
to her as the rogue pisser nowye so um, I really got sick
of the music. Yeah, LikeI felt like it was just like this
like lovey dovey bullcrap music that wasnot always appropriate. Dude, what was

(43:30):
going on? I agree? Sothe the opening theme for this, of
course, is written by John Barryagain, lyrics by John Barry and Tim
rice Um, sung by Rita CoolidgeAll Time High. I didn't mind it.
The music didn't bother me, butI did not feel like it really

(43:50):
went with what this movie is.Yeah. I didn't either. I felt
like it was just trash from startingto finished. I hated that music.
Yeah, yeah, I was justlike, all this is this is so
like nineteen eighty three. This islike but like the like the the easy
listening pop radio station nineteen eighty three, not like like adult contemporary good stuff.

(44:15):
So it was just like, it'sa far cry from living Let die.
Let's just say that right, Likeit was bad. Yeah, it
wasn't even Linda Ron's Dad for YourEyes Only. Yeah, and you know
what it was. They didn't sayoctopusy in the song, which is fine.
You know what their excuse was,They said, nothing rhymes with octopusy.
Oh gosh, Well, if you'vegot a minute there, robertson,

(44:40):
Oh, um, I just wantedto, uh, you know, I
do. I wanted to throw someappreciation to Tim Rice, who co wrote
the lyrics. Okay uh okay um. He is best known for his collaborations
with Andrew Lloyd Webber Cool Wow,with whom he wrote, among other shows,
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat,Jesus Christ Superstar, and Avida.

(45:07):
He's really slumming it here. Uhlet's see. He also worked with Andrew
Lloyd Weber or with Disney on Aladdinand the Lion King in the stage adaptation
of Beauty and the Beast in theoriginal Broadway musical Ida Okay Ada Ida,
I can't see it, you're lookingat it. He also wrote lyrics for

(45:29):
legendary Alan Mankin for the musical KingDavid. He also wrote for DreamWorks The
Road to El Dorado. Okay,so this man now has a place in
my heart? Oh okay cool?Yeah, that's all alrighty, So shall
we do the favorite quotes? Sure? All right? You want to go

(45:50):
first, because I know you've gotless. Um, I've not prepared anything,
so are correct? Wow? Nice? I was right. I love
the bit where VJ is like ishe still there? And Q says you
must be joking? Double O sevenon an island populated exclusively by women.
We won't see him till dawn.Um see, I don't. I've already

(46:13):
referred to the little octopussy. Ithought that was funny in a way.
Yeah, it was not hilarious oranything. It was weird. Um.
I liked Kamal Khan saying you havea nasty habit of surviving, and Bond
says, you know what they sayabout the fittest. I liked that.
Yeah, that felt very bond.Um him saying remember double seven, you're
on your own, and he says, well, thank you, sir,
that's a great comfort. Just sucha smug jerk, love him. Um.

(46:38):
I really liked when Gogel calls Orloffa common thief, a disgrace to
the uniform, and then Orloff dyingsays yes, but tomorrow I shall be
a hero of the Soviet Union.Yeah, and then he liked smiles through
his pain and dies like he dida really good job with that. Yea,
and Nat gave me chills. Iwas just like, oh, that's
solid. Yep. Um. Wealready talked about the Nightcap. Um Oh,

(47:05):
I like this when he tells he'his VJ. We've got companies.
There's no problem. This is acompany. Call Um. When all of
like octopusies girls are like kissing allover Q for knocking out that bandit,
and he says, cut it out. We don't have time for that.
Later. Perhaps it's just like anafterthought. I was like, Okay,

(47:29):
well, maybe come on c bebond for one night. Somebody's got to
balance that man out. Oh gosh, yeah, Like who better than a
bunch of trapeze artists to balance someoneout? Acknowledged Yeah, Q can be

(47:54):
like seven. If you'll if you'lllook over my way, you'll see that
I've also handy as a pummel horse. Just twist the snob. Okay boo
dave Um when he's when Bonda's beingdragged from the river onto the tour boat

(48:21):
and the woman says, are youwith our group? And he says no.
Man, he says, no,ma'am, I'm with the Economy tour.
That's so ridiculous, Yes, idiot, here comes a man randomly swimming
up out of the water. Yep. He's like, oh, I misstakeoff
time. Oh gosh, Um,I liked the You didn't tell me there

(48:46):
was going to be this much security, and then Bianca tells him they moved
the flight up this afternoon. Hesays, well, we're going to have
to go ahead as planned. Anyway, he looks at his ID and says
his name is Lewis Toro, andhe says Toro sounds like a load of
bull. Oh wow, Yeah,that was real dumb, but I laughed.
Um. I really liked when hewhen VJ was telling Bond about every

(49:09):
like all of the stuff at theclub and Bond's like, what have you
learned so far? And he says, well, my back hands improving.
Yeah, that was good. Let'ssee when Magda in bed says I need
refilling and James goes, hmmm,of course you do. Oh yeah,

(49:30):
I thought that was I mean,it was intended to be silly but ridiculous
and kind of just made me grownand roll my eyes. When we see
Bond like all laid up, likewith his leg yeah, yeah, held
up. He's got like all theselike casts and slings and yeah, and
everything pulls a string and he's likeI'm better. Yeah, he just like

(49:51):
rolls over and yeah. He's likeokay, yeah, I assumed he said
all that up. So that likein my six would be like, okay,
you need to recouperate, you haveterrible injuries. Yes, because they
haven't learned who he is yet,right British Intelligence. Yeo. Um here
was a weird thing. It wasn'tone of my favorites. Yes, it

(50:13):
wasn't one of my favorites. Butit was weird when when like the person
takes the picture with Magda and Jamesand she says, it's for my scrap
book. I collect memories, andyou know, he responds, well,
let's get on with making a few, and we cut to them doing the
deed. Did they ever follow upanything with her collecting memories? Again?
That was just such a weird littlescrap booking or scrap booking, Like really

(50:37):
I never saw our scrap books likeyeah, you look, that felt like
scrap booker. That felt like itwas gonna be foreshadowing for something, yeah,
and then it wasn't. It wasjust like, yes, I'm part
of an octopus cult and possibly inleague with some very bad people. Also,
I like crafting. I enjoy scrapbooking and collecting acting memories, memories.

(51:04):
Also I like seashells and sand dollars. Now, if you apply the
mod podge ever so lightly and letit drive for fifteen minutes. What's your
favorite scene, babe? Um,My favorite scene is near the end with
all the ladies fighting. It wasawesome, Like, it was ridiculous,

(51:30):
it was outlandish, It was painfullyobvious that they were on a set.
The sky was not the sky no, um, as we have established trappeazes
hanging from nothing right as it appeared. Um. But it was just awesome.
Man. I loved it that justthe octopus cult of women shows up.

(51:53):
I also loved it that like therewere different sects of them, you
know, like there was like theseladies who were kind of dressed and I
don't know, maybe like like kindof more Indian type attire, and then
there were these ladies dresses like Thingone and Thing two. There were these
ladies who were in a different kindof clothing and right, these are swashbucklers,

(52:14):
these are arms experts. Are youknow these women are pirates? Right?
They are trapeze artist pirates. Um. But it was just really cool.
And I also really love it thatout of all those ladies, only
two of them slept with Bond thatwe know of. Yeah, yeah,
that we know of. But Ijust thought that was really cool. I

(52:34):
thought that was great. Um,and all the ways, like all of
the circus tricks they were using tolike scale the walls and that was all
really cool. Yep. I likedit. Yeah, I dug it.
Least favorite scene. I've got tosay. It's not just one scene.
Just there were several instances in thismovie that dealt with heights. Yeah.

(53:00):
That made both of us queasy.Yeah, um, which means that you're
getting better, they're getting yeah yeah. Um. Definitely everything with the plane
that was happening that made me feelqueasy. Uh, made me feel uncomfortable
a couple of times. Uh,anything on the train when Bond was on

(53:24):
top of the train, like runningand yeah, yep. Just anything kind
of dealing with heights or falling froma fast moving thing. Yes, yes,
I can get on board with that, all right. I can't.
I don't know what that means.Okay, Well, you hope to see
going for Um, well, Iknow what's on the horizon. So I'm

(53:52):
interested and curious to see the Thunderballremake, just to see how bad it
can be. Yeah, just tosee Sean Connery come back and play Bond
in the eighties I don't want tosee Kim Basinger, all right. I
feel like that interest will last forabout ten minutes and then I'll wish that

(54:15):
I was asleep. Um. Also, like, I know it's not nice
to say, but we've made nobones about it. I am looking forward
to watching Roger Moore's last film sowe can get on to the next bond.
Is Dalton the next bond? Yeah, okay, speaking of something just

(54:37):
for something that's different. We didn'ttalk about small bone, all right,
a small bone random like Moneypenny Junior. Yeah that's right. Oh, I
did want to. I did justwant to say shout out to money Penny
just because we saw her again,yeah as always last year. Yeah,
wellis Maxwell? God bless her?Apparently she described bond and nauseating detail and
yet still both of them went wentwalked away. Yeah. I don't know

(55:04):
what I hope to see going forward. Just better, Yeah, just better.
Like you know what I'm looking forwardto right now, Daniel Craig,
Yeah, that's pretty much it.I'm still banking on my love for the
eighties like we still have. Idon't know a number of eighties films left
to go. Yeah, and youknow what, I'm hoping for a hat
trick, you know. I'm hopingfor like I did not expect On Her

(55:27):
Majesty's Secret Service to be as fantasticas it was, yes, and uh,
and it looked so different and uhit actually had like a grasp of
like dramatic lighting and cinematography, likesome interesting angles and stuff that they had
not played, and then they wentstraight back to you know, flat flat
lighting and like television blocking. SoI'm hoping that just like one randomly is

(55:57):
really good. Yeah, but Idon't know. I have no hope for
for the Pierce bros. And Era. I don't take him seriously. I
might come out of this thing likein him the most who knows she wasn't
Missus delfire. That doesn't help.So it was Robin Williams, but I
wouldn't have wanted to see him asJames Bond. I think I would just

(56:21):
for one film. It would begreat. It may have made Moonraker a
lot more tolerable, tolerable, tolerable, I was gonna say, tolerable and
palatable. Which which version of RobinWilliams would you like to have seen?
Like the zany wicky guy who talksa lot, or like the quiet guy
with a beard who's probably a therapistand talks to good will hunting from that
one hour photo. Oh you wantthat guy? Okay? No, no,

(56:45):
no, no, no no,I think I want Morkan, Mindy
Robin Williams. Okay, so thefirst one, yeah, talks a lot,
keep with a sci fi theme.Oh lord, hey Katie, she
just wants in your lap so bad. I know. I'm sorry. Al
right, Um, final thoughts.What's your rating? Oh? My rating

(57:05):
is two point seven five yo yosauls out of five and my rating is
one point five face suckers out offive. I almost said one point five
pussies out of eight. Oh wow, now I have counts. It's still
it still counts. What's your ranking? Now? Where does this fall?
Okay? Well, if you hearmy page is turning because I'm not doing

(57:27):
it very quietly. Um okay.Number one definitely still Doctor No. Two
on Her Majesty's Secret Service Agreed three, Goldfinger YEA four, Live and let
Die absolutely nice. Five The Manwith the Golden Gun. Oh we differ
ou six The Spy who Loved Me? Seven You only live twice, Agent

(57:55):
Octo Pussy nine for Your Eyes onten from Russia with Love, eleven Diamonds
Are Forever twelve, Thunderball, thirteen, Moonraker, fourteen Poopoo Royale. We
have watched a lot of these,Yeah, we have. I Go one
Doctor No. Two on Her Majesty'sSecret Service, three, Goldfinger, four

(58:20):
Live and Let Die, five,The Spy Who Loved Me six, The
Man with the Golden Gun seven fromRussia with Love, eight, You Only
Live Twice, nine, Octopusy tenFor Your Eyes Only, eleven diamonds Are
Forever twelve, Thunderball thirteen, Moonraker, and fourteen Casino Royal sixty seven.

(58:40):
I don't differ that much. Ireally wanted to put Octopusy at eight yeah,
and just leave it there no matterwhat, because of my weird OCD
crap. Oh right, look atthat. Mine is at number eight,
I know, and I wondered ifyou did that. No, it didn't
even mean too okay. I justthought for me it was about mid level,
and I was like looking at mylist and I was like, nah,
I think I liked you Only LiveTwice a little bit better. As

(59:05):
we have well established, I rememberalmost nothing from For Your Eyes Only,
So it's got to go above thatone, okay, and then the rest
that fall after that are just trash. On that note, before we jump
into trivia, let's go to aquick break. Yeah, fancy new thing.
Man, we're back. We're gonnatalk about a little bit of trivia

(59:27):
for what's this one called again?Octopus? Your weirdo? All right.
The production budget for this movie wastwenty seven point five million. The gross
was one hundred and eighty seven pointfive million, Good gracious, which brings
us to a net profit margin ofeighty five point three three percent net profit

(59:50):
one hundred and sixty million dollars.That is a profit percentage of five hundred
and eighty one point eight two percent. They're still doing good, still doing
good, even when, um,when I see something on Wikipedia about how
it's like this was met with mixedreviews, blah blah blah. I mean
they're still killing it. Yeah withthe profits man, Yeah, Like I
mean, I don't know, Iguess you still pay for those mixed reviews,

(01:00:15):
So, I mean, I guesshe really cared, but you didn't.
You also didn't you know, havea situation where people, you know,
studios were making decisions based on thosereviews. Necessarily as much like you
didn't have rotten tomatoes being plastered allover everything. Yeah. Um, it
was not a planned part of theIndian Cabby chase sequence when a cyclist rode

(01:00:35):
between the two battling vehicles. Ohgeez, that was not planned. That's
really cool. Stuntman Martin Grace hada serious accident while filming on the train
hanging on the side of the train, went into a non assessed area of
the track and he rammed into apylon, seriously damaging his leg and hip
and hospot hospitalizing him for several months. For several months, he broke Hey,

(01:00:58):
sorry, he made a full recovery. And this is what I was
talking about earlier. In a similarvein the actor who uses the buzz saw
Yoyo broke his arm when he fellover the balcony onto Octopussy's bed. Oh
my god, and despite his injuryand having to wear a cast, he
insisted on completing the rest of thescenes. Wow. Well yeah, geez,
yeah, oh god. Like Ifeel like saying, that's what you
get, that's what you get,dumb o yo yo song when you play

(01:01:22):
in the house that sure did youlike? I had I had adults in
my life, my grandfather, mymom because she liked what my grandfather said,
so she said it. Um.My dad adopted it to where they
would say, start out laughing,you wind up crying. We had a

(01:01:42):
similar saying in my family, uh, to the to the same effect.
My mom would say, uh,you'd try to do something nice and somebody
always cries. Oh God, terrible, these are terrible lessons. She would
She would always sing it, Mom, I know you'll listen to this.
Eventually sing it with me. Youtry to do something nice and somebody always

(01:02:06):
cries. That was more of likea sarcastic kind of thing, like if
my mom tried to do something nicefor me or my sisters, one of
us would end up or usually tammeringChristiana because they are younger and closer in
age, They would call some kindof drama fight with each other and end
up crying while my mom is sittinghere, you know, like, well,

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try to do something nice for you, somebody always cries. I tried
to make an extravagant dinner. Itried to make exactly the cake you wanted
for your birthday, but it wasn'tquite perfect enough, and you cried so
try to do something nice for you, ye. Robert Brown appears as m
for the first time, replacing BernardLee, who died between Moonraker and For

(01:02:52):
Your Eyes Only. In his bookAs You Wish Inconceivable Tales from the Making
of The Prince's Bride, Carrie Laystated that before he was an actor,
he worked as a production assistant onthis movie, and one of his jobs
was to drive Sir Roger Moore towork on the set of the movie Cool.
He further goes on to say thathe was a nervous wreck, being

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constantly afraid of getting into a caraccident and accidentally killing Roger Moore. Oh
my gosh, I mean, Iguess so. On one occasion, Roger
Moore looks up from his newspaper andsays, calmly, you can speed up
a little if you want to.That's a nice way to say it.
Barbara Carrera turned down the role ofOctopussy because she wanted to appear and Never

(01:03:37):
Say Never Again. She wanted towork with Sean Connery, so we'll see
her and Never Say Never Again.Interesting released in the same year as the
rival Warner Brothers James Bond production NeverSay Never Again. Which showcased the return
of Sean Connery to the role.This movie earned one hundred and eighty seven
million worldwide. Never Say Never Againearned one hundred and sixty million, so

(01:04:00):
they beat him barely. I can'tbelieve it. This is the last Bond
movie to reveal the name of thenext Bond movie during the end credits,
namely from A View to a Kill, which later dropped the from out of
the title. The equip at theend of the opening sequence. Filler Up
was initially removed by director John Glenn. It was only when he went to
his local cinema and caught the trailerwhich included the line and saw how well

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and went down with the audiences thathe reinstated it. I'm glad he did.
I liked that line. That wasfun. Maud Adams appears as a
different character and was killed in TheMan with the Golden Gun. I'm sorry
I didn't remember her. Yeah Ididn't either. I mean I remember the
character, I just didn't remember thatit was her. And apparently she's in
the next movie too, hopefully playingthis character. Hopefully playing Octopussy. That

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would be awesome. Surely we'll rememberher now, so next time she'll be
nine O pussy, all right.I don't know what nine would be,
not off the top of my head, I don't know. Nueva and Spanish.
Huh, okay, Penta is thatten? Oh? Okay, pent

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No, that's I think that's five. Oh that's good though, that's alliterative
penta pussy. Yeah, itto minusthree. She lost three. Oh gosh,
back in the old days when Iwas penta pussy. Sorry, I'm

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not okay, I'm not sorry.Most of the people listening to the show
of her DC on screen, theyknow who I am. Um. Christina
Wayburne, who played Magda, saysa romantic auvois to James Bond by way
of an elegant window exit, sheperformed this stunt herself, Oh my goodness,

(01:05:55):
swirling down to the ground, herdress acting as her support and being
unwound as she alighted safely to theground. She's like freaking Nissa al gool
up in here. It was reallycool. But also I thought it was
stupid. I mean, it wascool. I don't know, but hey,
that's awesome that she did it herself. Man neat, I mean everything
stupid when you just go, oh, you could have used the door.

(01:06:19):
What a dramatic exit, I mean, but she was able to pull it
off. Yeah. During literally yes, yes. During casting, James Brolin
was almost given the role of JamesBond Wow, when at the last minute
Roger Moore agreed to play Bond again. Broland's screen test can be seen on
the DVD. Moore had gone outof contract after a Moon Raker and had

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agreed to return to the role onemore time in For Your Eyes Only.
The production went with Moore because thismovie would be competing with Never Saint Ever
Again, as I talked about earlier, and they didn't want to go against
Sean Connery, not with an Americanactors. He related to Josh, Yes,
is Dan cool o a goon?He's dead. You know what's funny

(01:07:04):
is James Broland. The way howI knew James Brolin before I knew who
Josh Brolind was, before I knewanything about what James Brolin had done.
The only thing I knew him aswas barbar Streisand's husband. Oh wow,
because Entertainment to Night was just likeDames and bar Streisander do one of the
things Wow, And I was justsaying, oh, she really married up

(01:07:29):
all right. Kil Apparently Oliver Tobias, Michael Billingham, Toomothy Timothy Tomothy,
Timothy Dalton, and Ian o'gilvy hadalso been considered for James bond uh be
at least twenty miles away when itgoes off, warns the Soviet officer who
instructs Gobinda about the atomic bomb.And while that is certainly good advice,

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the surface detonation of a one hundredkiloton nuclear weapon would be easily survivable already
at one third of that distance,and even close if you knew of it
in advance and took minor precautions.For a weapon that size, the five
psi air blast radius where most residentialbuildings would be blown apart, only goes
out to a radius of some twentyfour hundred meters one and a half miles.

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The thermal radius where you'd get thirddegree burns if caught in the open
is about four thousand meters two anda half miles. On the other hand,
you had better stay up wind.This being a surface burst. You
could get severely irradiated even around seventytwo kilometers forty five miles away after a
few hours. If caught in themain plume. I like saying plume plume,

(01:08:34):
so yeah, maybe not, maybemore than twenty miles. I mean
he did say at least yeah.The character of Penelope small Bone was named
after one of the models who appearedin the opening credits to The Spy Who
Loved Me. At one point,Lois Maxwell flubbed a line and called her
Penelope small Bush. Wow, sothat Sir Roger Moore replied, we know
where your mind has been, Moneypenny. The main title song, All Time

(01:09:00):
High, sung by Rita Coolidge,made it to the top forty on the
US charts. There. It chartedon July second, I theen eighty three
and went to number thirty six,but the song went to the number one
spot on the US Billboard Adult ContemporaryCharts Charts art. I don't know,
temporary adults, What are you doing? What is a contemporary adult? When

(01:09:23):
I was younger, when I wouldhear like a genre described as adult contemporary,
I felt that meant that it waslike porn. I thought that meant
that it was dirty and so what. Tried not to listen to those songs
like, oh no, another adultcontemporary songs coming up? Gotta change it,
Yeah, gotta change the radio.Yeah, it's just it's just,

(01:09:45):
it's it just it feels like it'sjust music that takes itself a little more
seriously than pop. Yeah. Likethese are for adults who are just like
I would never listen to Blair ArianGrand Swift. These are songs that contemporaries

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of adults are not ashamed to speakof. That. That's a good play.
Have you heard the new Ritter Coolidgecontemporary? Yeah? All time high,
much better than that Whitney Houston pop. That's how people in America talk

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these kids today. I'll want tobe the king of pop. Then you'd
be the king of getting a job. Anyway, what are we talking about?
Oh? Barbara Barbara Broccoli, producerAlbert BROCCOLI's daughter, was credited as
executive assistant. She took over productionof the Eon James Bond film franchise after

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her father's death, associated with executiveproducer Michael G. Wilson. She likes
six year. She's like sixty yearsold. Now, wow, she started
pretty young. Then m hmm,that's awesome. Get it. You don't
look sixty? How old does shelook like forty? Like five years under
than me? Get it? Um? Yeah, enter an early draft of

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the script cast Octopussy as the villain, using her research on Tracy Bond's death
to manipulate Bond into joining her vendettaagainst Specter, but the ongoing legal battle
with Kevin McClory and Spector could havestopped to that. No, look,
man, come on call. Thatwasn't a real reason. They could have
changed it to a vendetta against anyother bullcrap, you know, organization as

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she could have been, like,it's an organization similar to one you've dealt
with in the past, you canimagine, and then it could I just
like the Tracy Bond stuff being broughtback. Yeah, that's what I like.
Yeah, I like I like thethe US as the MCU cast talks
about the wet, hot, stickycontinuity. I am not a fan of

(01:12:00):
when they say that. I donot find it clever or funny. I
don't like it. I don't likeit. It makes me recoil. Yeah,
I don't like the way they sayit, Yeah, because they breathe
heavily when they say it and getkind of guttural, which is purposeful.
Yeah, it's purposeful. It groy. But I have to admit it is

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funny. To hear you react whenthey say it, well, thank you.
Um. This is the seventh,and as of Specter, the last
movie where Bond ends on a boat. Oh okay. The other six are
Doctor No from Mush with Love,Diamonds or Forever, The Man with a

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Golden Gun, and The Spy WhoLoved Me. However, Bond's final scene
of Tomorrow Never Dies was in thewreckage of a boat. Still counts.
You think it's still counts? Ithink it counts. Man. See,
like I take it further and golike, no, not just a boat
on the wall on the water,because then he also bring in what was
a moon braker or whatever it was. Raft. He's in a raft and

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he's in like a pod. It'son the water. Yeah, And there's
like a skate pod or something.Dude, it's not always a boat.
It's not always a boat in somethingon a body of water. It could
be a pontoon in a lake.Doesn't matter. It still counts. Ye.
All right, let's get us alistener feedback from last of quarter.

(01:13:27):
Um. Again, apologies, thankyou all for hanging in there. I
mean, that's not like they hadto do much. They certainly didn't have
to listen because we didn't have anything, Yoki Young. And by the way,
a lot of these a lot ofthese people come to us from our
Breaking Bond group on Facebook, sothank you, and if I miss anybody's

(01:13:48):
feedback, I'm very sorry. Ithas been what three and a half months,
So it's been three and a halfmonths since we watched For Your Eyes
Only? Okay, like three months. Yeah, we it took us a
long time to record. I meanI say a long time. A couple
of weeks to record after we watchedit, just because we were really not

(01:14:09):
feeling it. But let's see Septembertwentieth, okay, is when that one
was posted. Gotcha, that wasfor my birthday three months so happy birthday
to me. That was yes,yeah, you have had a birthday since
then, that's right, and youturned to the age you thought you were
last year. Yea, that isalso a truth, all right. Kyoki

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Young says, for the record,my feelings were entirely unhurt that you didn't
care for Your Eyes Only. Ohthank you. Good to each his or
her own. You may have arough time finishing up the series though,
because For Your Eyes Only is consideredgenerally one of the best. Yeah,
but you know, I've seen alot of people say that some of the

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ones we love, Yeah, we'reone of the worst. Like, I've
seen a lot of people say AllHer Majesty's Secret Service was just utter garbage.
And I think it's my second favoriteones. Yeah, you know,
I always hold out hope, youknow, as as people of DC on
screen, note, Batmanvie Superman theUltimate Edition is my favorite superhero movie.

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All right. We know how peoplecomplain about BVS, so you know,
and Last Jedi is our favorite StarWars movie. Yeah, we know how
the fans hate that. I guesswe're not normal. I don't think you
and I aligne with most fandoms.Definitely not the James Bond fandoms. Yeah,
yeah, that's true. Um,Stuart Little says, Honestly, I

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think if you made this a monthlyshow, you'd not be as burned out
on the formula as it might be, and it might be a bit more
fun to listen to with a bitmore enthusiasm. And that's what I was
referring to earlier. Um, yeah, advice taking Steven got sorry. We

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even made up for it a littlebit from all the times we did it
every week and applied that to threemonths. So but yes, Stu,
maybe I don't know. I can'ttell if we're more fun to listen to,
um more, if we had moreenthusiasm here. Let us know.
You're always good about letting us knowhow we have disappointed you. And no,

(01:16:21):
I'm just kidding. I think Ithink this episode was hopefully I would
hope, easier to listen to,and sounded like it was done by two
grown ups who have their faculties.I don't know about all adults contemporary.

(01:16:41):
I would never go so far asto say that I sound like an adult
with faculties. Uh eight faculties,octo faculties. But yeah, no,
Stu, let us know if thiswas a better episode for you. Um,
I don't know what is that?Oh it just has badge icon because
he's one of the top fans.Oh okay, cool. Yeah, he

(01:17:04):
comments more than most other people onthe thing, which I thought that would
go to David Waange. But whatever. Yeah, I thought maybe it was
an emoji, like, oh,did he leave us in emoji? It's
a badge? No, No,or Mike could. Maybe Mike could,
but he doesn't actually give us alittle feedback about anything. Mike just kind

(01:17:25):
of post stuff. Yeah whatever,and I, um, I don't know.
I was gonna say I apologize,but maybe no one cares. Maybe
that's presumptuous for me to apologize.I have not been on our Breaking Bond
Facebook group probably since A Round forYour Eyes Only, Yeah time. Uh
yeah, I just kind of popin from time to time. Yeah,
you know, I don't get anynotifications anymore. Yeah, they don't.

(01:17:46):
They don't need us to keep itrunning. No, guys go, guys
play. That's awesome that uh um, you guys are active on there,
and yeah, talk with each otherand the things and the sudges, m
and let's see. Sherman Smith says, I appreciate you releasing the podcast at
such a slow pace. Oh theythis way. I haven't been getting too

(01:18:09):
far behind. Well man, Idon't know if that's sarcastic, but here
you go, David Way. Ifit is sarcasm, well done, even
bothered, I mean either. DavidWayne says, I believe this The octopusy
is the only Bond movie that involvesthe Berlin Wall checkpoint, Charlie, etc.

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Yeah. I didn't see that.I did see that, and I
really liked. I will say,even with the Bond films that I don't
like, I think it's really awesomethat they film in different places every time.
It's really neat. I think that'sreally cool. So this one was
filmed. Oh, I wrote itdown, This one was filmed. I
mean Wikipedia did not specifically say Berlin, but I mean surely they filmed somewhere

(01:18:55):
in Berlin. Wouldn't you think theydid? From here and there? Yeah?
Yes, they did actually have.I did see a piece of trivia
where they said, um, it'slike one of the rare shots of of
pre Berlin wall being torn down.That's so cool. Yeah, wow,
um, definitely. I mean obviouslythey filmed in India. Um, and

(01:19:15):
this doesn't just mean Pinewood studios,but they also filmed in places in England.
Here is a weird one. Theyfilmed a couple of places in Utah.
That sounds right, that's odd.I don't know why that sounds right.
So all right, Yeah, I'vealways thought that was really cool.
We get to see lots of reallyneat different places into Bond films. Scott

(01:19:38):
McClellan, our good friend from DCFilms squadcast uh sends us a react to
this. Octopussy with a vomiting injiUmp Elders is the first Bond film I
ever watched part of when it wason TV. Cool that is everyone,

(01:20:00):
it's weird. Did you like it? Yeah? Did you think it was
good since that was the first oneyou watched and you had not had a
chance to get sick of Roger Mooreyet? Or see how everything is kind
of a formula m David Wayne pointsout that the Faberge egg is a fictional
one, but he read that afew were lost and never accounted for,
so property of a Lady may wellbe there. WHOA I think one of

(01:20:21):
them was on Riverdale. By theway, Property of a Lady was from
the original short story or an originalthe auction I think came from a short
story by Ian Fleming called A Propertyof a Lady m Or maybe it was
Yeah, I don't know, Ican't remember. Stuart Little says not making
the theme song actually named after thetitle was a punk ass move. Broccoli.

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I agree, that's not the firsttime that's happened, but it was
weird. It did not fit inmy opinion. I agree. Kioki Young
says Octopussy is silly but fun.Sir Roger was really beginning to show his
age with this one. But atleast he was paired with the lady he
had been with before in Golden Gunand who was a little closer to his
age, though even they were almosttwenty years apart. Wow, his age

(01:21:08):
would get ridiculous in the next bond. If you do a kill, which
was blessedly his last, Yeah,I mean I would imagine that like he
was just getting too old to wherelike he didn't even feel physically up to
doing it anymore. I would imagineone of the pieces of trivia I left
out because I didn't think we'd talkabout it is that he had some sort

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of medical issue and he was misdiagnosedas having heart issues and then they found
out he was fine. But Wow, and David Wayne in the feedback that
we have been referencing this entire episodelooking forward to hearing Beth and they say,
oh go A lot of times,I salute you, sir, you

(01:21:51):
just got it. You just getit. Maybe one day you'll do a
podcast and I'll listen to it andpoint out something that you don't know you're
saying over and over again. Thatseemed meaner than I thought you. I
think you mean it, but maybenot. No one knows how I intended
it. That's true, I certainlydon't. We also have from Brent page

(01:22:19):
Um. He says, my husbandand I have been watching the Bond movies
during quarantine and found the podcast withyou and your husband. We've been enjoying
it quite a bit. Hope tohear you both doing more episodes soon.
So thank you very much Brent andyour husband for listening, um, and
thanks for letting me know and sayingnice things. It's always absolutely, it's

(01:22:43):
always good. I don't know.We're we're gonna do it like no matter
We're gonna do this podcast no matterwhat, even if people send us negative
feedback, right, it is justheartwarming when someone says nice things for a
change. David. No, it'sokay, No one's offended quite, all
right, sir. Yeah, we'rejust kidding, all right. So I'll

(01:23:06):
say next episode, not next week, Oh yeah, because uh man,
next week is dagone Christmas. Itis daggum Christmas, which is the proper
term now in twenty twenty. Yes, Mary dagone Christmas, Mary dagone Christmas.
Um. I was also gonna say, not gonna say next week because
you know we have no no trackrecord now to stand on. Sure,

(01:23:28):
But then the week after Christmas,Dave and I are going to be doing
a Christmas vacation type deal with myfamily, which you are always a gem
and an angel to go with me. Two on for any other prepositions,
Um, yeah, so worse isthat a preposition? Um? I don't

(01:23:49):
know. Probably probably we're looking atJanuary when you guys will hear from us
again. Yeah, yeah, that'snot too long, it's not terrible.
It's the seventeenth is recording. Thiswill be uploaded, you know, we'll
probably about an hour after we dothis. But plus, you guys are
probably going to be watching Wonder Womanon Christmas Day anyway, right not some
people will, some people not me, dude. I mean I am definitely

(01:24:14):
excited to watch it because it's youknow, Wonder Woman eighty four, right,
unless they're in Canadian or I wasborn Mayne or Japan. It's a
it's already out in some places.YEA, yeah dude, but yeah,
I'm not going to have time towatch it on Christmas and day. But
not everyone is a DC on screenlistener they should be just to hear my
angelic voice. Yeah, and you'reburnt nice anyway. Truly, thank you

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every single person who listens, thepeople who leave comments, the people who
don't leave comments, the people wholeave comments that make us grown, and
you know, every single person.God bless you everyone. Um. I

(01:25:04):
don't even know what to do withthat. That just turned into some weird
stuff, man. I mean thatsincerely, even though I did a weird
thing with it. Yeah, Idon't know. Phil high repent harlequin,
man said the TikTok Man. TheHarlequin tells the TikTok man gets stuffed.
Um, that's that was my kneejerk reaction. It's old Harlan Ellison,

(01:25:29):
uh story. The title of itis repent Harlequin said the TikTok Man.
Wow, a bit lengthy. Mit's a good one, all right.
So next episode, um, we'llbe watching Never Say Never Again, from
nineteen eighty three, starring Sean Conneryas James Bond, Klaus Mario brand Dour

(01:25:53):
as Maximilian Largo, Barbara Carrera asFatima Blush, Kim Basinger as Domino Satachi,
Roland Atkinson Mister Bean Cool as aNigel Small faucet. Oh, I
wonder if he has any speeding line. I don't know. Bernie Caseus Felix
Lighter and Maxim vond sidow as blowFilm. So until next time, keep

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your octopusy off of that nice fan'sface. Thanks for listening. You can
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