The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)

We're talking The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) -- or as one of our listeners called it, The Spy Who Killed My Boyfriend and Who I Let Bang Me Because Reasons! Haha

We're getting into the plot, our favorite quotes and some trivia as well as listener feedback! We had a fun time!

Episode Transcript

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In this episode of Breaking Bond,we'll be talking about The Spy Who Loved
Me from nineteen seventy seven, starringRoger Morris, James Bond, Barbara Bach
as Anya Amasoba, Kurt Jurgens asCarl stromberg At, Richard Kill as Jaws,
directed by Lewis Gilbert. But firsta word from our sponsor. Welcome

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culture icon and see what, ifanything, we've been missing. My name
is David C. Robertson. I'mNathanie Robertson. You are my wife.
Goodbye city Line. So everyone,sorry it's been a second. But more
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care about Big Brother. Woman.They might might, they might let us
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here. Big Brother twenty two twentyyear Anniversary Star Season. James Bond.
We're talking, James Bond. Iwas back, Yeah, he is,

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alrighty, I take it we shouldjust head right into the old synopsis again.
Sure, So, A British anda Soviet ballistic missile submarine suddenly disappear.
This sound pretty familiar. This shouldsound familiar, whether it's a submarine
in the water, whether it's ashuttle and submarine in the sky. You

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know, and you're like, surelythey're not going to do the thing again
where it's like a bigger vessel swallowinganother No it is. It is Dwight
scay Penis from the office. ABritish and a Soviet ballistic missile submarine suddenly
disappeared. James Bond in My sixthAgent Double O seven is summoned to investigate.

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On the way to his briefing,Bond escapes and ambush by a squad
of Soviet agents in Austria, killingone during a downhill ski chase and evading
the others. The plans for ahighly advanced submarine tracking system are being offered
in Egypt. There, Bond encountersMajor Anya Amasova KGB Agent Triple X,

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his rival to recover the micro filmplans. They travel across Egypt together,
encountering Jaws, a tall assassin withrazors sharp teeth along the way. Bond
in Almosova reluctantly joined forces. Aftera truce is agreed by their respective British
and Soviet superiors. They identify theperson responsible for the thefts as the shipping
tycoon and scientist Carl Stromberg. Soat this point, let's let's try to

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cover our thoughts up to this point. Number one, Can I just say
I hated the opening credits? Oh? Yeah, nobody does it better?
Is fine? I like the song, right, I love that song.
And as with Live and Let Die, I did not know. I just

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thought it was a Carly Simon song. I didn't know that this was written
for this movie. It was sungby Carly Simon. So yes, I
love the song. H it doesnot match the credits at all. Yeah,
it was a weird one. Ididn't think it went together. But
I did love the fact that.First of all, I thought it was

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really cool and interesting that the guythey have played with us a little bit
because they were like, oh,we're gonna have this spy making love to
this woman and always is the Russianversion of James Bond, you know,
Triple X or whatever he was called. And uh and then it wasn't him,
it was it was the woman.That was cool. Yeah that was

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cool. And I thought it wasfun that he was like a totally different,
like lesser spy yeah. Um,and that he had to go and
try to like ski after James Bond. That was fun. Um that scene
looked awful. Yeah, uh yeah, it was the correct length. Uh

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it was um not like what wasit Diamonds are Forever Ski chase scene?
That was just way too long.I was like, oh please, that
was that was not diamonds, thatwas um, that was actually um on
her Majesty's secrets. Yeah yeah,yeah, thank you. Um. But
yeah, I like just from thebeginning, I was intrigued. It was

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U it was interesting even though uhit's kind of a similar villain villainous plot
that we have seen before. Ohyeah, um, but yeah I was.
I was still intrigued. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I I
loved that. Um. I meanit was fun to have them like,
oh, well, you know,where's Bond and she's like, oh,

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he's on a mission. We'll tellhim to pull out immediately, and of
course he's he's getting down. ButI loved the message coming out of his
watch. That was fun. Thatwas awesome. That was fun. Um,
did you did you remember our triviafrom on Her Majesty's Secret Service,
where um, I said that therewas a ski jump with a parachute,

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like when he ski jumps off amountain in a parachute that was supposed to
be in that movie because George Lazenbyactually like came up with that idea and
suggested it, and then they werelike they loved the idea and they couldn't
do it because of like budget orwhatever, time or some some such,
but they did it. He yein this movie. Yes, and it
was amazing. It's really cool.It was so awesome. It was really
cool and it was real wow.And I think maybe maybe you saw this

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when you were um researching for thetrivia, maybe this is accurate. I
think it was like the most expensivestunt that had been done up until that
time. I did not see that. But when they started that may or
may not be true. When theystarted getting into like numbers for stunts and
stuff, I get real bored andstarted falling asleep. So like yeah,

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I'm just I'm not writing that down. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not
copying and pasting that. It's nothappening. But it was so awesome because
Dave and I were not sure whatthe outcome of that was going to be,
Like, I'm pretty sure you jokinglysaid, is he going to die?
That sounds like you that is notmy kind of joke. Well,

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I was like, is there likewater at the bottom of this? Oh?
Yeah? Is he going to plungeinto water? What is Is there
a parachute situation? Because it wasa really long fall, It was a
really long fall, and I waslike there was a poor I was like,
what are they playing at here?What's gonna happen? Is he going

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to be eaten by a submarine?Like? Is it a situation? Because
I'm just waiting on these movies toget to a to like a saturation point
of ridiculous? Yeah, Whereas likewe watched James Bond like ski off the
side of a mountain. Yeah,and then like he just keeps falling and
falling and falling and falling and fallingand falling and then he dies and were

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like what and all of the allof the bad guys are like down there,
like watching him standing at the atthe top of the of the cliff
looking down, and then like theone in the back pulls off his mask
and it's James Bond and he killsthem all and you're like, how did
he How did he ski uphill andget behind them and make them think that

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he was one of them? Andthen he says, you only lived double
O seven? So I was like, what are they about to do?
Like this? This looks really likedid he have like did Q give him
like a remote controlled dummy? Didhe hide behind a tree and then send
the dummy? What is happening?Or they're gonna like Indiana Jones it and

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like they're just gonna like jump offa cliff and being a raft and then
the raft is gonna inflate as theylike very conveniently fall into the water.
Yeah, and suddenly it's a tropicallocation. But Willie hates water and she
hates getting wet and she hates IndianaJones. Um, But no, that

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was it was awesome. Dig Mymom and I used to say that all
the time. I loved Temple ofDoom. I guess it's probably a weird
movie. To be like a child'sfavorite movie or even that my mom allowed
me to watch that because there aresome pretty intense scenes and Temple of Doom.

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Um. But yeah, we alwayslaughed when Willie is like I hate
water, I hate getting what,and I hate yo. Like her voice
just dropped in such a weird waywhen she said you. But anyway,
Yeah, so the parachute thing offthe side of the mountain was super cool.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.Um. Yeah, even though,

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like as as Dave said before startingout the ski chase, the background looked
horrible at times. Yeah, thatwas not great. It went from being
like, oh man, great shoton location. Yeah, and they were
doing a lot of really cool stuffwhere like the cameraman was like right behind
Bond and was like yeah, followingalong with everybody and it looked just super

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cool, and then it would justbe like close up a Bond, It's
like whoa were projector like oh bad, bad bad. Yeah, the close
ups were not good. Yeah,but any whom we sold her on,
we sold your on um. Whiletraveling by train to Stromberg's base in Sardinia,
Bond saves Amasova from Jaws, andtheir cooling rivalry turns to affection.

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Posing as a marine biologist and hiswife, they visit Stromberg's base and discovered
that he had launched a mysterious newsupertanker, Deliperus, nine months previously.
As they leave the base, ahenchman on a motorcycle featuring a rocket sidecar,
Jaws in a car, and Naomi, an assistant pilot of Stromberg,
in an attack helicopter chased them,but bonded Amasova escape underwater in his car,

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a Lotus, a spirit from QBranch, converts into a submarine.
Jaws survives a car crash, andNaomi is killed when bonfires a sea missile
see air missile from his car,which destroys her helicopter. While examining Stromberg's
underwater Atlantis base, the pair confirmedthat he is operating the stolen tracking system
and encounter a fleet of Stromberg's minisubs, which Amasova obliterates by launching mines.

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Bond finds out that the Liperus hasnever visited any known port or harbor.
Amasova discovers that Bond killed her lover, Serage Barsov Barsov I don't know,
as shown at the beginning of themovie, and she vows to kill
Bond as soon as their mission iscomplete. So that covers a lot of
ground. Yeah, so let's Ilove the chase sequence. I love the

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chase sequence. I normally don't.I love this chase sequence where it was
just like Motorcycle Guy. It wasthe helicopter. It was like, dude,
the helicopter chase. Oh that wasawesome. Yeah, that was like
a video game. That was likeit was it was so cool. It
was it was like Grand Theft Auto, like you steal the car and they're

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like cops after you, and thenall of a sudden, like you evade
them long enough and they're like armytanks and crap, and I dug it.
Helicopters, police copters, all that. So, I don't know.
I loved it that Naomi was drivingthe helicopter yes or pie Yes, sly
and at some point, at somepoint that she like pulls the helicopter down

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right beside the lotus and like looksover at Bond and winks at him,
and I'm like holiday row and thenBond accidentally ate a baloney sandwich that is
dog pete on. It was likethe James Bond equivalent of that scene from

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from from vacation. Yeah, great, it was so great. Um.
I loved the Lotus the Spirit.I thought it was a really fun car.
Yeah. I love that they wentunder water. Yeah, that was
love that she knew how to operateand he was like, how do you
know how to do this? She'slike, I stole the blueprints for this
two years ago. Yes, that'sawesome, so great. Um. Also,

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I I wanted to point out thatI thought it was cool that um
Triple X mentioned James Bond's wife.Yes, finally someone mentioned that he was
married and that his wife was killed. I mean she was. She was
about halfway through that sentence and thenBond cut her off. But that was
great. Finally someone mentioned it.It was acknowledged and she was like,

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oh, you're sensitive, and hewas like about some things. Yes,
that was fantastic, Yes, yes, and thank you that like they didn't
he didn't make it into a jokesomehow or a pun or Yeah. He
was just he was as serious ashe needed to be. Absolutely. Yeah.
So, um, what else didwe do? We just talk about

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dude. Stromberg's Atlantis base totally wasawesome, yes, but totally looked like
the Hall of Doom from Super four, Like it was like where the Legion
of Doom hangs out like like agiant Darth Vader helmet in the water.
It was amazing. It was reallycool. Yeah, and apparently a model.

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It was all a model, butum a model. You know what
I'm talking about writing you know thatthat reference um uh Monty Python on the
Holy Grail when they Arthur and hismen like finally make it the Camelot and
they're all like on the on theridge and they're pointing down to the giant
castle and Camelot, Camelot, andthen one guy goes, it's only a

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model. Nice yep. By theway, in in in the Atlantis base
where Stromberg, I love the bitwith his like debut scene where he brings
in those two guys and he's talkingto him about how the operations did well.

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He's already put the money in theirbank accounts all this stuff, and
then he's like, you know,he tells the lady leave us, we
have business to talk or whatever abouthow they're you know, some something's someone's
been embezzling, or some crown someonetried to like sell the plants to the
highest bidder or something, and shelike with a little smirk, saunters into

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the thing and into the elevator andstarts to leave. As she's walking,
she's singing Dagon get intrals absolutely andthen as soon as the doors are shut,
it's like it was you who betrayedme, and she's like no,
she's like oh, she's like murked, straight up murk. The door flips

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over and she like, ah,the shark guy. I feel like sharks,
uh really get a bad rap inthe Bond franchise. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel like they're really misrepresented,misunderstood. I guess. Yeah,
maybe your cat's in the the roomcrying for you. She can come in.

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I can just hear her in thebackground. How I want you listeners
to understand the doors are all open. Yeah, she can just walk back
here and just like we've it's happenedbefore, she'll come in here, lays
down and we both pet her whilewe're talking about this stuff. Nope,
she's just in there on the couch. Yeah, she's probably freaking out because

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I left my post. Yeah allright, So um, Sharks, the
Lady, Sharks, the layer,and so we think, we think,
and then probably the two guys thinkthey're okay. Yeah, they're they're free
to go. That was awesome too. You're in a I don't know,

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helicopter plane. I think it wasa plane. It was a helicopter.
I thought they're in a flying objectleaving the layer and then a strong bird
kills him. Dude, Yeah,dude, straight up murda things. That
was a real bummer. By theway, that spelled m u r dt.
I've coined that. I've never heardany anyone else say that. I

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thought you were saying murk, likemurked, like mercenaries. It's like period
murks. It's like period. Butm I like it. M h okay,
it is. It is what I'mreferring to as screet or screat it's
it's screaked for murdered, straight upmurked. But then I feel bad because,

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like, after he has those guysmurket um he uh, he gives
the order to like put the moneyback into his account or to stop the
transfer, and I'm like, dude, he didn't even like give it to
their families. Yeah, come on, now, like you know, at
least uh, I'll shoot what's uhGean Carlo Esposito's name on Breaking Bad Gus

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Fring. Yeah, man, atleast at least Gus Fring was like like
a chivalrous, gentlemanly villain. Wellman, you don't you had arrangement in
case someone on his team got murderedthat his family got a certain amount of
money. Don't get a sweet secretlayer like the Hall of Doom by like

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just throwing twenty million dollars. Imean, he could have at least given
them a million. He needs thatmillion to feed his sharps, to like
upgrade his sweet remote controlled blinds.But yeah, his layer was awesome.

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It was awesome. It was reallycool. It was awesome. Um let's
see, and that's old Ken Adamsagain. By the way, Ken Adams
doing this thing? All right?What did we? Where did we fall
off? Here? Out bonding Amosovaboard an American submarine to examine the Liperus.
As it captures the submarine, Strombergsets his plan in motion, the

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simultaneous launching of nuclear missiles from thecaptured British and Soviet submarines to a boot
rate Moscow in New York City.This would trigger a global nuclear war,
which Stromberg would survive in Atlantis,and subsequently, a new civilization would be
established underwater which is just such astrange desire. I mean, yeah,
but it's one of those like racialghoul, Let's destroy the earth and start

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society again with a select few becausewe've had our chance. And yeah,
well, I mean he's got ahe's got a fetish. It's weird.
He leaves for Atlantis with Almasova becauseof course he was like, but you
you're hot to come with me?And he made that noise too. I
bet not on the movie, butI could hear it. Bond escapes and

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freeze the captured British, Russian andAmerican soldiers and they battle the Liperus's crew,
but the joint US, UK anduss ARE sub mariner coalition suffers heavy
casualties just taking back the pensa sorrythe subpen before managing to breach the control
room, only to learn from thedying captain of the Liperus that the commandeered

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British and Sovia submarines are primed tofire their nukes in only a few minutes
to ignite World War three. Bondreprograms the submarines to fire the nukes at
each other, saving Moscow in NewYork City while destroying the subs and Stromberg's
crews on both of them in theresulting nuclear explosions. The victorious submariners escape

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the sinking Liperus on the American submarine. I mean, that's half the movie.
It is, and that's fine.The submarine is ordered by the Pentagon
to destroy Atlantis, but Bond insistson rescuing Amosova. First, he confronts
and kills Stromberg, but again encountersJaws, whom he drops into a shark

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tank. However, Jaws kills theshark and escapes. Bond and Almasova flee
in an escape pod. He does, and it is they escaping any Fleeing
an escape pod as Atlantis is sunkby torpedoes, Amosova picks up Bond's gun
and points it at him, butthen chooses not to kill him, and

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the two embrace. The Royal Navyrecovers the pod, and the two spies
are seen in an intimate embrace throughhis port window, much to the amusement
of their superiors on the ship.Did we really think Bond was not going
to end a movie making out witha lady on a body of water?
He didn't end her Majesty's on herMajesty's secret service. He has ended the

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majority the majority of Bond films haveended that way. He you know,
ended that movie holding a dead woman. Yeah above, overlooking of a body
of water as two bodies of waterstreamed out of his eyes. Oh god,
okay, sweet. That was asweet escape pod set up, though,

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it was. That was pretty coolman. That escape pod was made
for love. And it really was. I was gonna say it wasn't like
strong Berg. He was a freak. He was into some stuff. I
mean, he didn't. That wasvery presumptuous. You know. It wasn't
like, let's set up a deskand a chair or you know, like
I don't know that was. Hewas just like, no, I'll make

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the entire thing a bed, likea clamshell shaped bed, and it's gonna
have like curtains that like swing around. Like dude had some taste. Yeah
yeah, yeah yeah, hand styleand white sheets. And by the way,
you could see um triple X likethe outfit that she was wearing that
was soaking wet was like um,like the fabric ink was bleeding onto the

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white sheets. Yes, it was. It was That's what you get when
you have white sheets, man,it's like he's like, you'll come with
me, and then he takes her. He's like, here, I put
on this thing and just like it'slike a pair of overalls but with straps
to go over the boo and shedoesn't get a shirt to go underneath.

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So it's like okay. It's likeI mean yeah, but I mean oh,
I mean oh strong, are younasty? So hang up. We
gotta give a shout out to Jaws, like a proper shout out. Yeah,
what a great um villain. Yeah, he was fun. What a

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great Yeah? That was. Hewas weird, man, he was weird.
He was really weird. It wasweird. Um. I looked him
up, Richard Keel, I betyou did. Oh okay, not in
a dirty way. Uh he was. He was seven foot two yeah.

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Um. And I thought it wasinteresting that he was in the nineteen ninety
nine live action version of Inspector GadgetUm, since that's like a kid's version
of James Bond sort of um missthe spy genre sort of his character well.
Wikipedia says that it's a it's it'sfrom like get smart and then get

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smartest, like the James Bond andlike parody. I think anyway. Uh
So his character on Spector Gadget wascredited as quote famous big guy with silver
teeth. M M. That amusedme. Nice. Um, he was
sort of vampire like a little bitbecause like whatever he would kill I guess

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like his his his main way ofkilling people. His go to was to
like bite him in the neck.Yeah, I mean, what else you
gonna do? Bite him in thechest, by him in the arm?
Hope that you know? Yeah,I guess that's a pretty good uh,
pretty good place to Yeah. Idon't know what a what a strange character,
but you know he's up there.I mean he's out there with like

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odd job and Nick Knack. Notlike I'm better than Nicknack. Yeah do
I I don't know knick Knack.I enjoyed knowing a different level. Um,
is this a good introduction to JamesBONDI thing, Oh we're done?
Why not? Oh what else yougot? I guess I'll talk about it
when we get to the favorite scenestuff. Yeah, because that's what I
was going to do because I havelike certain quotes and certain scenes that I

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like. But you can do thatand then you can do it. Okay,
you know, let's gone Okay,it's a good introduction. Yeah,
Um, I think so. Yeah, I think it's a good introduction.
Um. Like I said before,I was intrigued from the beginning. I
mean like, even though the villain'splot was one that we have seen before,

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it felt similar but still like itwas in a submarine. And then
it was like, Oh, what'shappening. The guy looks on the thing
and he's like god, gosh orlike whatever whatever he says, and I'm
like, what what is it?What is it? You know? What?
When he when he when he lookedat that and was like, good
God. The first thing I thoughtwas like, oh, they're making him

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watched Thunderball. No. No,the first thing I thought was like,
I'm always like on the lookout forlike things that like Austin Powers did.
And I see him go good goodwhen he looks at the thing, and
I went, oh, this islike in that scene in Austin Powers the
Spy who Shagged Me when they seethe giant big boy in space. Yeah,

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and that one guy goes, ohmy gentle jeez. Oh I guess
yeah. So you think it's agood introduction. Also, I think it's
like I think it is very wrote, Yeah, James Bond, like it's

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it's got all of the big elements, it's got all of the check marks.
I feel like it's uh, youknow, he gets down with with
several women, Oh my gosh,like rapid fire, all within the first
twenty minutes of the movie. Yeah, it's like they just got it out
of the way. Dude, Like, yeah, okay, so I gotta
go meet with this guy in Egypt. Okay, well he left me a

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plaything. Yeah, until someone triesto murder him. This is all sorts
of stuff like that there. Soyeah, man, uh but I did
love that, Like I did.I love that. Like when he like
leaves and she's like, but James, I need you and he's like sodos
England and he leaves, she likegets up and she gets on her little
things. She's like, he hasleft. He has left. Nobody can

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trust anybody in these movies. That'sfun. Um. Yeah, I think
it's a pretty good introduction to JamesBond. If no one had seen it,
Like, uh, if someone hadn'tseen it and they're like I just
hate Sean Connery, I'd probably belike, oh, okay, well that's
fair. I guess if you justcan't dig the guy. But you know,
check out this Roger Moore filick.I think it's pretty pretty close to

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you know what you're gonna get.Um, And based on this movie,
I probably would keep watching the franchise. Like it's a little silly. But
I'm okay, that's fine, I'mdown. What do you think would you
keep watching if this was the firstone you'd seen? I would, okay,
yeah, because I feel like atthis point, um, it kind

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of like for you and I thingsare dragging a little bit. Yes,
because there's just not much that's differentat this point from film to film.
There has not been a lot thathas been different. Yeah, it's a
little frustrating. Yeah, but ifthis was the first one we watched,
we wouldn't know that, right,and it would have still be fresh.

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Yeah. I wonder if if that'swhy we liked Doctor Know so much.
Yeah, because that was the firstone and we weren't We weren't sick of
um, we weren't sick of theformula yet. Yeah. Would you recommend
this movie to anyone you love?Yeah? Sure, okay. I thought
all the actors did a pretty goodjob. Yeah. I thought the music

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was fine. It wasn't like Iwasn't over the moon with it. It
was just there. It was okay, they still have not learned. Oh
yeah, this was the first onewhere John Barry was not scoring, or
not the first one, but itwas hamless right. I don't remember who
did. Nobody does it but maybenot. I don't. I don't don't
know if I even wrote that triviadown. Yeah, John Barry did not
do the score for this one,so he couldn't go back to the UK

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due to taxation purposes. Whatever thatmeans. What a bummer that the last
movie he scored was God, whatwas the one before this, The Man
with the Golden Gun, the onethat he felt was really rush? Was
that his final one? I don'tknow, because I don't remember if the
trivia said that last week? Ithink it was this last one. Did
I write that down? Last fortnight? Whenever? The whenever the fortnight,

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last fortnight? I don't know whenwe last recorded we get Away from Us
somehow. I'm so sorry everyone.I didn't. Yeah, I didn't write
that down, but I don't knowif that was his last one, last
one or just last one for awhile m m um. But yeah,
so that if that was his lastone ever. What a bummer that he

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went out on that one. Yeah, hey oh on the note of the
slide whistle. Um yeah, okayfired. So Yeah, I love nobody
does it better. I love thatsong. I just felt like it.
I guess, like the song isnot really talking about depressing things, but

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like the feel of it kind ofsounds depressing. Yeah, and it just
didn't go with the movie. Um. Also, they still have not figured
out that the fight scenes would reallyjust be so much more interesting if they
had freaking music to go. AndI don't understand how they don't get that.
Yeah, y'all, come on,Yeah, it's weird. How is

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that not a thing yet? Man? It is so weird to me anyway.
Yeah. Favorite quotes um I actuallywrote two down and we've already said
one of them. I just lovedit when Triple X says I stole the
blueprints to this car two years ago. I love it. Yep, that's
so awesome. She was a reallygood a really good foil and she was

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in a great sidekick I hated,or not really sidekick, I guess,
but cost by partner. Yeah,partner, that's a word. Associate.
Um I did not like her quickturn and how she kind of kept like
I can understand her being upset andjust being like, you know, the

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man I love is dead, soI'm gonna, like, you know,
give in to this crap with bondbecause I need to feel something else.
I can get that. I've knownplenty of people who did that kind of
crap. Yeah, but the uh, the oh you killed him? Oh
well you know, yeah we Yeah, it was like she she held on
to that anger for such a longtime. You would have thought it would

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have been more of like a slowturn, you know, like the more
time she spent with bond Um workinglike working on that mission, getting to
know him better, and then thefurther away she got from the hurt,
yeah, or from the incident thatcaused her to be hurt, you would
have thought it would have been moreof like a slow transition. But she
held on to it, yeah,all the way up until the end,

(32:21):
and she was just like I amgoing to kill you. Yeah, And
yeah that really that really did suck. That It was just like she was
holding a gun to him, andit wasn't just like okay, fine,
now that I'm finally trying to gothrough with it. I really can't.
It wasn't just that, it wasI can't go through with it. Also,
let's do it right? Yeah.Um, that was a bummer that

(32:46):
that that aside. Um. Ilove when they find when their superiors find
them and they're like, Bond,what do you think you're doing? And
he's like keeping the British ends upset? Oh god, that was funny.
Um oh. I loved it whenBond was, um, god, where
was he Egypt? When he wasin Egypt meeting his friend and his friend

(33:08):
said, what a pity it isyou persist on being so business like?
Yes, the definition of James Bond. Yeah, yeah, but that was
a fun quote. I liked whenBond was when she had vowed to kill
him and he says, which bullethas my name on it? The first

(33:29):
or the last? And Anya says, I have never failed on a mission,
Commander, any mission. And hesays, in that case, Major,
one of us is bound to endup gravely disappointed, because neither have
I. I liked that. Thatwas cool. I liked that too.
Oh. That also reminds me callingher Major. That reminds me of when
they were in the submarine before beforethat sub had been eaten. I think

(33:52):
that was the one with the Americanson board, and they were just or
at least the one guy at firstwas like, oh my gosh, there's
a lady. There's a lady onhere. And she's just like, Nope,
I'm a major. Yep, I'ma major. Just treat me like
any other major. Yea. Andthen that other guy walks in when she's
taken a shower, and the guy'slike, what, I don't remember exactly

(34:13):
what he said, what's the matter? Never seen a major taking a shower
before? Yeah? Or something?Yeah, Yeah, that was great.
Yeah. It reminded me of AgentCarter when I don't remember exactly what it
happens. But one of my favoritethings she has said so like throughout that
series, of course, because it'sthe forties and she is a woman who

(34:37):
like doesn't stay at home and cookfor her husband. She does amazing,
awesome things that many people in theforties thought was a man's job, and
so she has treated a lot withsexism. Her face is a lot of
sexism, and so someone like someguy is like talking down to her and

(34:57):
it's just like, and what's yourname, pretty little lady? And she
she goes agent, you can callme agent, yea. I love it.
Um So one of the things thatI really liked in this movie,
and I felt weird and mad forliking it. But where Bond is holding
that guy by his tie off ofthat building, yes, oh my gosh,

(35:21):
and he's like, where's fakesh Andthe guy's like the pyramids and Bond
just like knocks the dude's hand awayand the dude falls to his death.
What a jerk? And then Bondgoes, what a helpful chap? What
a jerk? What is going?Oh my gosh? Man? That kind
of seemed against his character sometimes.I mean, I know he's killed people
before, but that seemed a bitmuch but also cold. It felt like

(35:47):
some of Connery at his worst.I wonder if I wonder how Roger Moore
felt about that, since he's hadopinions before where he's been like that doesn't
really seem like something he would do. Yeah, I mean he knocked a
kid into the water. He's Imean, he's done some crappy things,
yeah, And but like he's alwayshe has said like that doesn't doesn't really

(36:09):
seem like something Bond would do.I loved when he threw By the way,
this is the second villain I've seenhim throw out of a train.
Yeah, lots of stuff happens ontrains. Yeah, he threw jaws out
of the train and then myself waslike what happened and he's like, he
just dropped in for a quick bite. Um. I liked when Jossain was

(36:34):
like, has the heart the Haremgirl come in and he's like, are
you quite sure? You can't?I can't persuade you. Just stay of
the night, and he says whenwhen when? When one is in Egypt,
one should dev dipe deeply into histreasures, so nasty, Like,
why would you? Oh that's sucha weird, gross way of saying that,
real gross surprise. He didn't saysomething about a treasure chest. Oh

(36:54):
yeah. There's the hotel receptionist whowas like, Sue up down a bond
and she's like, I have amessage for you. He's like, I
think you just delivered it. Um. We talked about that one the Joseim
saying what can I offer you?Sheep size dates, vodka martini that felt

(37:16):
like gold number, like a smokeon a pinecake, piper crepe. Um.
Yeah, so that was the thing. Where she where he was,
she still got the gun on himin the skate pot, and he says,
in my in my country, major, the condemned man is usually allowed

(37:36):
a final request, and she saysgranted, and he says, let's get
out of these wet things, andthen they're just like down my own here,
um, And it was just likethat. I did laugh when Naomi
was taking him to the speed boatand clearly being flirtatious with Bond in front
of Anya, and when she turnsaround, he goes, what a handsome

(37:58):
craft, such lovely lines, andshe's just like looking at him, like,
you ain't even talked about that bout. But one of my favorite bits
was where he was just she sheasks him if he killed her, her
lover or whatever, her boyfriend,and he explains, like, when you're

(38:22):
skiing down a mountain and a bunchof people are shooting after you, you
don't necessarily like look back to seewho it was that you shot. Sure,
but yes, I killed him,Yeah, And I thought that was
pretty, you know, fantastic rationale. And I feel like, you know,
yeah, if there was, ifthere was a reason for her to

(38:43):
turn even if it was you know, even after or in addition to all
of the stuff they had just beenthrough together and getting to know him before,
she realized that he was the onethat And it wasn't like he was
hiding it. He didn't know.He was just like, oh, yeah,
a bunch of dudes were after me. I don't know. I just
shot. I just shot. Andhe was just a yeah, he was
just leaving the that love cabin,right, He like he was just called

(39:07):
away on another mission. He wasn't. He wasn't like leaving to go chase
down some guys, right, hewas just like innocently skiing away. Ye.
Also, how do you find propertylike that? I don't know.
I assume you rent it at exorbitantprices? Yeah, man, because I

(39:28):
was like the only place for miles. Yeah. He goes to Q and
he says, hey, you knowhow you always managed to set up office
and weird places. How about alittle love shack? But yeah, I
a low place where we can gettogether. I feel like if she,

(39:49):
I mean, she's an agent justlike bond Is and a darn good one.
It looks like, yeah, sheprobably like at some point when he's
probably right, I mean, yeah, it's not his fault. Some guy
was shooting at him and he justlike shot back. And yeah he wasn't.
He wasn't like looking for the guyassociated with Anya, right, he

(40:13):
was just defending himself, right,So you know, I feel like Bond
probably would have done the same thing. I mean, like, you know,
the guy who killed his wife hewent after, Yes he did,
but I mean that was that wasa different situation, was a different Lowfeld
targeted her? Yeah, Um,I don't know. I feel like if
if Moneypenny was killed, you know, no matter what the situation was,

(40:37):
even if it was an accident,if she was killed and it was just
like because she accidentally got in theway of someone who was the target,
he would probably still go after whoeverkilled her. Sure hmm, But I
don't know. I mean, yeah, Bond wasn't He wasn't trying to attack
him on purpose. No. Uh. Now, the guy who he just
let fall off of the roof wasrough jerk. That was probably somebody's love.

(41:04):
Maybe we don't know who he wasgoing home to at night. Don't
know what was your favorite scene?Okay? I have lots of things that
I really liked. Okay, Ireally liked the Underground Layer. I mean
the underground, underwater. Um,I think it's so weird that this part

(41:25):
was just really awesome to me.I really loved it, Like toward the
end when they were going around likesetting free all of the marine guys,
all of the guys from the varioussubmarines, because that it was just sort
of like we're on the inside ofthe tartists, you know, like there
just like running around on all thesehallways in like freaking whatever. Reminded me

(41:49):
of was like when you go toan aquarium and there's that one room with
like sort of like carpeted stadium seatingand like everyone gathers there, like one
hundred or so people can gather thereto watch them feed the sharks. It's
like that kind of seating area.It was like all of the all of
the submarine guys were just like hangingout in those rooms, but they were

(42:12):
still It was also kind of weirdbecause they were still sectioned off according to
like what team of people it was, you know, like they weren't all
mixed together. It was like theUSSR people are here, and the UK
people are here, the US peopleare in another one. But yeah,
anyway, I don't know, Ithought that was really cool, just watching
them run around in that area settingpeople free. Also really liked the helicopter

(42:36):
chase scene immediately followed by the carturning into a submarine kind of thing vessel
the Wet Nelly. That was supercool. It was just really really cool,
and you know, Annia, Anniais like just freaking out at first,
like, oh my gosh, wedrove into the water, We're gonna

(42:57):
drown, and then it just turnsinto a thing. I guess you know
what what you just you just mademe like the movie less. Oh,
if she had the plans and shestole those plans for that submarine car,
she may not have known that thatwas the car, though maybe not.
She may not have known that thatwas the one. If she stole the
plans, then she knew what theplans were, but she didn't necessarily know

(43:21):
what the outside of the car lookslike. George's getting upset. Uh yeah,
So those are my favorites. Whatabout you? I don't know,
Okay, I really like I'm asimple man. I really like I really
liked Miss Stromberg was like, itwas you who betrayed me and like sent

(43:44):
the lady into her death. Yep. Oh, and then like when he
tries to do the the elevator murtto uh to Bond later, but Bond
doesn't fall for it literally, umlike he yeah, that was great.
The elevator opens up in Stromberg islike kind of smirking like, yeah,

(44:06):
got him, but Bond is inthere. M that was great. That
was fun. Um yeah, Idon't know. I really don't know what
my favorite scene was. I thinkI think more than anything, I enjoyed
the whole chase scene with the motorcycle, the car, and then the helicopter.
Yeah, now that was a submarine. Yeah, that was actually interesting.

(44:27):
That was a really really long chasesequence. But it was interesting because
it wasn't just one thing. Yeah, it wasn't a couple of day Bob
slids. They changed it up.My favorite thing in the movie was when,
uh, when when JW. Pepperdidn't show up, when he wasn't

(44:47):
just like randomly on the ocean.Yeah, going damning my man, I'm
Ro'm a Democrat. No Hall ofDoom coming up on a mat Oh yeah
yeah, yeah right, I wasgonna say racial slur, racial slur.
I'm from the South and I'm gonnaspit out machu. Yeah he's damn Ponty

(45:12):
air made lanterns. Oh oh mygosh. No, Uh yeah, I
don't. I don't know what myleast favorite scene is. Do you know
you have a least what your leastfavorite scene is? Thank you? What's
your I've really been trying to thinkof what my least favorite was. Um,

(45:35):
I don't know. It's probably it'sprobably more than just these couple of
scenes. I might remember something laterand think, oh, that was my
least favorite. So I really hatedit when uh the underwater layer started to
flood with water. Um, thatmade me start to feel anxiety. Yeah,

(46:00):
um, although I am glad itdidn't happen for very long. Dude.
You know how Barbara bocklo like shewas freaking out when that was happening.
Yeah, that was all real.Oh gosh, I don't blame her,
dude, I don't blame her atall. The Roger Moore movie so
far have a habit of just havinglike the lead actress freaking out for very
real reasons because layers being destroyed,like they're literally falling, they're literally almost

(46:27):
about to drown, like everything isjust like everything gets like curius curs um.
Uh. Yeah, so that justmade me feel a lot of anxiety
when it was flooding with water.But it didn't happen for a really long
time, so I'm glad that thatwas not an overdone sequence. Uh.

(46:50):
I really did not like it whenthey just ended up making out and you
know, just when Annie just completelychanged her ways, just changed her views
and any way she felt about Bondand just gave into him so easily.
I really didn't like that. Iwas not a huge fan of the ending,
although it was like a typical Bondending, I just didn't really like

(47:15):
it. Yeah, I kind ofwish there had been like a scene or
something before everything went down, wherelike maybe they were hiding in a corridor
or something trying to get out,and maybe she had like said something about
how many people she's killed in aline of duty and how she thinks about
their loved ones and blah blah blah, like maybe reflect a little bit on

(47:36):
the life they've chosen. That wouldhave been interesting and would have made it
more. I'm not saying they can'tend up at the end like getting down
or maybe like give me a littlebit more. Maybe Triplex and Double O
seven could have had more of likea heart to heart, you know,
like maybe he could have brought uphis wife again. Yeah, you know,
maybe he could have said, I'msorry, I understand how you feel.

(47:57):
I have also lost someone who wasmy love, right, you know,
and like maybe they could have bondedover that. Well. I don't
think they had a heart to heart, but they didn't have a shoot to
dying, keeping the British end up. So yeah, alrighty um, final
thoughts. What you got on therating? Baby? Um, I'm going

(48:20):
to give this two point seven fivewet Nellie's out of five. Oh,
okay, two point seven five.You're getting you get you get intricate.
I'm not doing all that. Uhyeah, I'm just kind of stuck at
three. Yeah, I'm just youknow, I thought about a three,
but then I looked at some ofthe other movies that I've given a three.
I really, I really do think, now that I've said it,

(48:44):
I really do think that a lotof the ratings have to do with just
getting tired of seeing the same oldthing. Yeah, like, if if
I had watched this movie, youknow, like second or third or something
before, I really got tired ofthe same old thing. I want to
if I would have liked it more, yeah, I don't know, but
I give it. Um, Igive it three Hall of Dooms out of

(49:06):
five. Nice and uh. Asfar as ranking, what what are you
doing? Okay, okay, okay, this is so difficult all right.
Number one is still doctor No forsure, me too, um man it
really yeah? Number two still onHer Majesty's Secret Service. Number three is
still Goldfinger. Yep, those arestill no question yeah, one, two

(49:28):
and three. Okay, Now I'mgonna have trouble. I'm starting to have
trouble remembering which one is which?Even let die is black splitation, Okay,
okay, Man with the Golden Gunis the man on the island with
tattoo? Right? Okay, gosh, oh my gosh, sorry for all

(49:50):
of the indecision here. It's fine, this is our show. It's such
a struggle now, okay, It'slike the middle part gets really difficult.
I know what is still definitely mybottom two? Okay, let's see,
Okay, maybe maybe number four eleven, Let die, number five, the

(50:13):
Man with the Golden Gun. Numberssix, the Spy who Loved Me?
Seven, You only live twice?Gosh. Eight from Russia. Nine diamonds
are forever ten Thunderball eleven due toroyal Oh are you changing your list?
I'm just changing my list right now. Yeah. I couldn't help it,
Okay. I kept staring at it, and I was just like, m

(50:37):
Nope, So mine is going tobe Doctor No. First, number two
on Her Majesty's Secret Service, numberthree, Goldfinger number four, eleven,
Let die number five, the Manwith the Golden Gun. Yeah I did
have I did put this correct.Yeah, I did put the Spy who
loved me above the Man with theGolden Gun for just a minute. But
you know what, I don't likeChristopher are you too much? And I

(51:00):
liked that that island back drop toomuch. I liked all of that too
much. But the Spy who lovedMe is at number six right afterward,
and I think, I think everythingfrom the Spy who loved Me to gold
Fingers all three out of five anyway, So it's just like negligible, Like
I don't know how to deal withthis. So here's here's how I'm feeling

(51:22):
on this day. Number seven fromRussia with love. Number eight You only
live twice. Number nine diamonds areforever number ten, Thunderball, and of
course number eleven. Dodo No.I do not say Dodo Royale. I
say Casino Royale sixty seven. That'swhat I call it. Yeah, Uh,

(51:49):
can I say a couple of obsessivecompulsive things I would like to point
out about this movie? Absolutely,okay, The Spy Who Loved Me nineteen
seventy seven, starring Roger Moore.What is happening? Just what I to
say? It's from nineteen seventy seven, so so far? Why I wanted

(52:12):
to make a note of the date. Okay, I did that earlier at
the beginning. Did you say nineteenseventy seven? Absolutely? I didn't pay
attention to that. You should payattention to when I talk, woman,
I do. I just didn't hearyou say that one thing? Guy,
Okay, So so far this isonly a three year gap from the last

(52:35):
one, The Man with the Manwith the Golden Gun. It's only three
years. There are all things youcan do with the golden gun. But
this, this is the largest gapbetween between movies so far. This has
just been a year or two years. Um. Also, dude, this
was shot on location in so manyplaces, and just a couple of those

(52:57):
places are Egypt in Italy. Uh. And then the underwater scenes were filmed
once again in their beloved Bahamas clearwaters man Yeah yeah, um and experience
filming there. It ain't wrote,don't fe oh what I did. I
did appreciate that their underwater scenes youcould tell we're sped up a little bit.
So at least they did hopefully learnsomething from less. Yeah. Yeah.

(53:22):
When so then when they were likeunderwater and then like the harpoon guys
come out, I was like,ah, here we go, like Keenan
and kell, here it go.All right, so thank you. That's
my nerdy, obsessive, compulsive stuff. You're just tied to say it.
Alrighty, let's get into some trivia. Okay. The budget for this movie

(53:45):
was thirteen point five million, andit grossed one hundred and eighty five point
four million, And that that budgetalmost doubles from the previous couple of movies.
So that is a huge increase especialfor that time. Yeah, that's
crazy. Still pretty fat profit,Yes, the profit margin was ninety two

(54:07):
point seventy two percent net profit ofone hundred and seventy one million, nine
hundred thousand dollars As a profit percentageof one thousand, two hundred and seventy
three point three to three percent goodsand I have gas. I was coming
to the end of that profit percentage. A representative, a representative from the

(54:30):
Egyptian government was on set throughout theshooting Cairo and Giza to make sure that
the country was not portrayed in anunflattering light, and for that reason,
when the scaffolding collapses on jaws andbond equips Egyptian builders, Sir Roger Moore
merely mouthed the line, dubbing itin later Oh my gosh. It went

(54:52):
unnoticed by the official Egyptian minder andironically got a great laugh from the Egyptian
audiences. Wow, well, that'sreally interesting. I don't think that's a
very nice thing that they did.That's really interesting that Egyptian audiences thought it
was funny. Yeah, offensive,But I will say also, I think

(55:15):
generally speaking, they do a prettygood job of being respectful when they film
in other countries. Yeah, thiswas weird. The eyesight of cinematographer Claude
Renoir was following. I think that'show you say. His name was failing
at the time of this movie,and he could not see to the end
of the massive supertankers set. Asa result, he could not supervise the

(55:38):
lighting. Ken Adam turned to hisfriends Stanley Kubrick, who, under the
condition of complete secrecy, supervised thelighting. He suggested the use of floodlights.
In addition, Katharina Kubrick, kubrickstepdaughter designed the Dentschers that Robert Keel
sorry Richard Keel jaws wore in thismovie and Moonraker. Interesting. Yeah,

(56:00):
that kind of reminds me of whatwas at Hollywood ending with Woody Allen,
except he was going blind because itwas like a psychological thing. Yeah,
he had gone blind because no onecould figure it out because of stress or
something. Yeah. Yeah, that'sreally interesting. That's really cool. And
since when you have mentioned Woody Allen, I now must point out that he
might be a pedophile and is deeplyproblematic. Just because we mentioned his name

(56:22):
doesn't mean we are for him oras you say, again him. Yeah.
But Leah, last time we weretalking about Casino Royal sixty seven,
and you know I had to bringup by the way he's yeah blah blah
blah. Yeah, you know,we got people who were like messaging me

(56:44):
and being like, by the way, thank you for acknowledging that Woody Allen
might be a bad person. Sure, and that's fair that we did it
that one time. I don't thinkwe need to say it now, you
know, just refer back to thatstatement if we ever mentioned Woody Allen again.
Yeah, also when we do ourWoody Allen movie binging podcast. Also,

(57:08):
this doesn't mean that Ken Adam orKaterina, Katharina Kubrick, Richard Keeler,
any of those people. They mayor may not be horrible people too.
I've heard some really rough things aboutKubrick. I don't know. We
don't know. Just because we don't, we don't note it, right,
doesn't mean we love these people,right. Yeah, these could all be

(57:32):
deplorable human beings. We know manyof them are. The closing credits say
James Bond will return in for YourEyes Only, but because of the successes
of Star Wars and Close Encounters ofthe Third Kind, Moonraker was chosen instead.
I don't I get the feeling thatMoonraker was not a good movie.

(57:53):
I mean, I'm willing to checkit out, you know, well,
sure, I mean, I'm notsaying we will watch it. We're not
gonna skip it because you get afeeling. Really that also, also,
I think it's funny that you're like, I get the feeling Moonrakers not good
when about seventy percent of what youwatch is hey, I'm watching a bad
movie. Oh yeah, like orI'm gonna watch a bad movie. And

(58:16):
it's fun to watch bad. Whyare you so excited about it? It's
fun to watch bad movies. Butwith those movies, I don't know what
I'm in for. I don't Idon't go into it thinking like, who
this is some nineteen eighties goodness withRobert Downey Junior and James Spader, and

(58:36):
it looks awful. There are lotsof mullets, and uh, you know,
I'm not like, oh, there'sa formula, although probably for those
kinds of eighties movies there was aformula. Well, I mean that's a
very specific type of bad that youenjoy. But I'm talking about like when
you're like, when you're like,oh, man, I mean I watched
an Anna Kendrick movie I thought wasgonna be bad but it turned out good.

(58:59):
I'm so disappointed that it was apretty good movie. I wasn't disappointed,
but you know, like, okay, so I watched Have any of
you guys seen a Simple Favor?I don't know if it's a simple Favor
or the Simple Favor? I don'tremember the article. Have any of you
guys seen that. I watched itlast night with Anna Kendrick Blake Lively,

(59:22):
and I thought it was just gonnabe like a silly, little dumb chick
flick. And I was like,yeah, man, let me watch this
something something I don't really have tocommit to so I can like do other
stuff while it's on. I'm notgonna feel bad, you know, like
just if I like get up andgo to the bathroom while it's on,
or you know, I'm not gonnafeel like, oh I'm missing something.

(59:43):
I don't have to give my fullattention to it. No. Man,
this movie is like two hours long, and it probably took me about three
hours to get through it because everytime I wanted to do something else,
I had to stop it and belike, Okay, I'm gonna do this
other thing. I don't want tomiss anything that's happening with the movie.
Yeah, that was like a greatmovie with some pretty neat twists. Right,

(01:00:06):
But yeah, man, I meansometimes you need a dumb, bad
movie. Yeah, it's fun towatch it, but then it's also like
maybe sometimes to kind of like decompress, right, you know, like I
just need to something that's not gonnaupset me or make me think. You
did totally seem like disappointed to somedegree that it was not like a really

(01:00:31):
crappy movie that you could ignore.Yeah, I mean I guess I was
a little bit disappointed just because Iwas like, oh, I ruin,
I gotta think, I gotta likeprocess this all right. So I will
say this about Moon Raker. Um. I remember it was on television when

(01:00:53):
I was a kid, and andI don't know how old I was.
I just remember seeing Jaws and hewas coming after Bond and then like they
kept showing some it looked like apod or something. I don't know.
I just remember being so bored.Yeah, but I was a kid.

(01:01:14):
I think it's I was a littlekid, a little interesting, but also
love Star Trek, so it's hardto say. You know, I think
it's interesting that they were like,oh uh, space stuff is popular.
Yah, gotta go ahead and releasethis pile of trash that happens in space.
But yeah, I mean that's aI will say this, that's about

(01:01:35):
how like, you know, eightypercent of what in Hollywood gets made is
like, oh superheroes are the thingthis week. Yea, but um yeah,
I mean the Bond films did doa really good job of, like,
uh, staying current with whatever wastrendy at that time. Yeah,
as opposed to actually creating what wastrendy at the time. Yeah, but

(01:01:59):
you know, creating their own.When I was a kid and I love
Star Trek, so I probably walkedthrough saw it was happening in space,
right, and oh space, justsure, and then I sat down and
was like, oh, this isn'ta Star Trek, this is walked away.
Probably. Yeah, so I knowI didn't watch the whole thing.

(01:02:19):
Yeah, I mean I do.I do stuff like that now too,
you know, if I'm like,oh the eighties space, oh my gosh,
post apocalyptic, yeah what is gotgood ratings? Never mind? But
yeah, that's that's been an interestingthing. We you and I have found
h watching the Bond films, likeI well, I was going to say,

(01:02:42):
I have to keep reminding myself,but no, you keep reminding me
that if I look something up andI'm like, oh god, the critics
really hated this one. Well,I guess we'll see what we're in for.
And you're like, no, butyou have to remember, just because
the critics hated or even if thecritics and the audience hated it, we
have liked the movies that the criticsand audience have hated. And that's that's

(01:03:05):
true. I don't remember which onesthose were with the Bond films, but
that has definitely happened. Yeah,there's definitely been like a shift like,
oh, this was too different,it's not Bond enough, and then later
it's like, okay, it waspretty good. Yeah, that sounds like
it was probably this is too different, Like thank god it's But then again,

(01:03:28):
Diamonds or Forever was kind of attackedby a lot of people and that
wasn't good. It was a stepbackwards. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
prior to the introduction of Naomi,Carolyn Monroe accidentally sat on a bee and
was stung hard on the butt.Oh my god. Despite the resulting pain,
she was pushed on by the filmmakersto complete the scene. When shown
boating and greeting Sir Roger Moore andBarbara Bach The stern look on her face

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wasn't due only to the character ofthe hnchwoman, but the pain from the
stings she was feeling. That sucks. Yep, I'm so sorry. By
the time this movie was made,the James Bond film franchise was the most
lucrative in the world, and manymanufacturers one of their products featured. There
was a great competition for the companythat would supply Bond's car. Don McLaughlin,

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public relations manager of Lotus, realizedthat the best way to win this
coveted position was to make the producerschase after him rather than going begging to
them. One day, he turnedup at Pinewood driving a new, brand
new, unreleased Lotus A Spirit withall identifying names covered up. He parked
it outside the Bond set, knowingthat the producers would see it when they

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broke for lunch. Once the carhad attracted a crowd, all clamoring to
know what the car was, McLaughlinnonchalantly guide in the car and drove away
without answering any questions. As hehad expected, the producers were desperate to
discover what the car was, andAlbert producer Albert R. Broccoli later chose
it for his movie. That's prettygood. Yeah, that's pretty good.

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The stunt driver was having problems makingthe Lotus a Spirit looks sufficiently exciting in
the chase scenes because it held theroad too well and had to be driven
dangerously fast to make it slide impressivelyon corners. Jeez. One scene in
Sardinia required the car to drive upa hill on a mountain pass and round
the sharp bend. The normal stuntdriver was not available, and the crew
who were waiting at the top askedLotus employee Roger Becker to drive the car

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up. He thrashed the car sgetting dramatically around the corners and making a
dramatic one hundred eighty degree turn ona gravel area as he stopped at the
top. Would you mind doing thatagain? And this time we'll have the
cameras rolling. From that time on, Roger became the stunt driver for shots
and involving the Lotus. Whoa cool. Yeah, that's neat. Do you

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have the bit of trivia about onElon Musk. I don't know. I
think I may have written it downsomewhere that he bought it. Yeah,
maybe I did. I think itwas like I don't know, six hundred
thousand pounds and he bought it.I think Elon Musk bought it because he
wanted to try to design a carthat actually did that for real, that
went underwater. Yeah. Yeah,but I think it's really cool that Elon

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Musk owns it. Dude. Yeah, he owned that dang car. That's
really cool. This movie introduced tothe world a spicy scooter known as a
wet bike, better known now isa jet ski, sparking a new water
activity industry. This gadget was commonlyreferred to as the motorbike that rides on
water. That's so cool. Yeah. In the scene where Major Amasova could

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not drive a stick, Barbara Bachactually didn't know how to drive a stick,
and Roger Moore's responses were unscripted,so the whole time that Bond was
making fun of her not knowing howto drive, that was just them.
Wow. I think he said somekind of quippy typical like women can't drive.
Yeah. Yeah. The original scriptcalled for Jaws to perish after Bond

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used an industrial magnet aboard the supertankerto drop into the tanker's furnace. The
scene was well that he didn't doit. The scene was storyboarded using Richard
Keel and Sir Roger Moore's models andapparently rehearsed, but ultimately scrapped because Robert
Albert Sorry Albert R. Broccoli suspectedJaws character had an enormous appeal, so
an alternate ending with Jaws surviving wasfilmed, allowing Jaws to return in Moonraker.

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When this movie was previewed, audiencescheered when they saw Jaws swimming away
in the finale. Wow. Yeah, I'm like, I love the part
where like he drops him into theshark tank. No, when the magnet
comes down, like Bond brings themagnet down, it sticks to his teeth.
That was real funny. That wasridiculous. But yeah, that's interesting.

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Is this? I think this isthe first time a Hinchman has appeared
in a second film. Yeah,maybe it's the same character anyway. Yeah,
Oh, let's see. After thismovie's released, demand for white Lotus
of Spirit cars searched to the pointthat new customers had to be placed on
a three year waiting list. Wow. Elvis Presley saw this movie on Wednesday,

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August tenth, nineteenth May seven duringa special viewing at the cinema the
General Cinema in Whitehaven, Tennessee.It was the last movie he saw as
he died six days later on Tuesday, August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven,
at the age of forty two.What a way to go having watched this
movie. Man too bad he didn'tmake it. Daniel Craig, I know,
all right. He could have beenlike he could have been like Bob.

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He could have made it, BobDylan, I'm talking about I forget.
People don't know what I'm talking about. We met our neighbor to pay
tribute to the death of Sir RogerMoore to James Bond movies. This movie
and For Your Eyes Only, Moore'stwo favorite of his Bond movies, as
well as the two he considered hisbest, were re released on selected dates

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since selected territories around the world.That's pretty cool meat. This was the
first Bond movie to make significant referencesto his past, including his recruitment to
the British Secret Service from the RoyalNavy, his many lady friends, and
his marriage to Tracy Cool. Thescene where Bond is watching a light show
that illuminates the Sphinx and Pyramids isan actual show called The Sound and Light

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Show, which would continue to beshown for many years afterwards. I think
that would be such a cool showto watch, but watching people watch it
was really boring. Yeah, Ithought maybe that might be my least favorite
scene in the movie. For real, what I was thinking too, it
was all of that was just reallyboring. Man. Yeah, it was
weird and boring. The title song, Nobody Does It Better, was sung

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by Carly Simon, with music byMarvin Hamlesh and lyrics by Carol Bayer Sager
Sager. Maybe it is the firstBond theme song to be titled differently from
the name of the movie that hasplayed on the main titles, although the
phrase the spy who Loved Me isincluded in the lyrics. One of the
first directors to be considered with StevenSpielberg, there was some worry about his
inexperience, as he was caught upon an extremely lengthy pre production schedule for

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a little movie he was making atthe time called Jaws, which provided inspiration
for a major character in this movie. That's great, It is awesome.
Yeah, yeah, I got this. The loadus of spirit capable of transforming
from car to submarine in the moviewas purchased for six hundred and sixteen thousand
pounds at a London auction in Octobertwenty thirteen by Elon Musk, who plans

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to rebuild the vehicle as an actualdual purpose car. Sweet look at me,
I remembered most of that you did. But that's so cool, man.
This is the first Bond movie touse an original villain and not one
based on a villain from the novels. Oh yeah. I also was reading
on Wikipedia that even though this titleis the same title as one of Ian

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Fleming's books, like nothing, noneof the content is from that same book.
Yeah. Apparently the book is likefrom the perspective of some lady who
James Bond boints or loved quote unquote. Yeah, he only shows up in
a couple of chapters. Apparently.That's interesting. Yeah, that would be

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an interesting way. I know.I'm sure a lot of people have been
wanting the new Bond to be awoman. That would be and it just
doesn't really look like there's any anywiggle room on that. Like they're determined
that Bond is always going to bea man um which is I mean,
honestly, it's understandable. Uh,but that would be an interesting way to

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kind of uh, I guess ridethe fence with that, to like make
a Bond film that's from the perspectiveof a woman, even though James Bond
is still James Bond and he's aman. I wouldn't und seeing Jamie Bond.
I'm good. They can still callher James, just like Paul called
Jamie James on Matt about you.Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't mind.
I don't care. Yeah, itdoesn't bother me. Yeah, I'm Mike

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gender Bennett. Let's do it,let's see it. I don't care.
Oh, just let me see allthe things I don't care us all right?
With this movie, director Lewis Gilbertalso decided to fix what he felt
the previous Sir Roger Moore movies We'reDoing wrong, which was writing the Bond

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character too much the way Sean Conneryplayed him, and instead portrayed Bond closer
to the books, very English,very smooth, with a good sense of
humor. Okay, I dug it, though, I mean, yeah,
I like I probably liked him morein this movie than previous outings. Yea,
his version of Bond. Yeah,so Okay, yeah, this is
from seventy seven. Geeze, dude, Roger Moore was fifty years old and

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seventy seven. He does not looklike he is fifty no in that movie.
But it was reported that Roger Mooreundergone cosmetics cosmetic surgery early in seventy
six before filming began. So still, that's a nice look for fifty dude.
Yeah. This was the first Bondmovie to be recorded in Dolby stereo.

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Interesting. Hey, here's a weirdpiece of trivia. This was the
movie that Jose and Kitty Menendez werewatching on the VCR when their sons Eric
and Lal murdered them in nineteen eightynine. Oh my god, remember Menendez
brothers. Menendez brothers. Do youremember those guys? Yeah? Oh my

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gosh. Yeah. Guy Hamilton wasoriginally assigned to be the director of this
movie, but left the project.Who directs Superman instead, and coincidentally he
also wound up dropping out of thatmovie because Dick Donner did that one.
Yeah. So um. It wasreported that Roger Moore had underga Yeah what

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oh yeah, say that name VictorTourjansky, uncredited as the man with the
bottle who wonders whether he's hallucinating itseeing the wet nelly drive out of the
water. Do you remember the bit, No, he's a guy sitting on
the beach. He's got a bottleand then he like shakes his head and
looks down on the bottle like,oh, and by this drunk. He

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repeated the gag in the following twomovies and Moon Raker he is drinking in
Venice when Bond drives his gondola outof the water, and for your eyes
own he is a patron of thelodge at which Bonski's off the table and
apparently does the same bit. Wowhis main job. His main job was
assistant director. You know what I'lltake. I'll take toward Janski shaking his

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head and after drinking from his bottle, way more than JW. Pepper.
Yeah, please, Like, Ienjoyed some of what JW. Pepper did,
but it's such so stupid. Onemovie was enough, it was it
was more than enough, and onewas plenty. Um. Also, I
thought you were going to say you'dtake that over the dog running away in

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terror at the side of like thecar coming up from the water. What
does a dog care? Oh?I forgot about that. Yeah, it's
like just everybody was just like,what is happening? And then the dog
was like, I'm out here?Yeah, what who cares? Dog was
like because I'm on the lamb.Oh god, Oh my gosh. What

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that was weird? You know what? I got that from The Simpsons.
Wow, Like Grandpa Simpsons is liketrying to get away from something and he
screams calling me Jinia because I'm onthe lamb. Oh gosh. It definitely

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sounds like something a grandparents says.Oh absolutely, wow, Doug, you
can come in here. All right, we're almost done. Let's get us
some listener feedback. Uh. Wedon't have a lot this week, probably
due to us not recording anything orkind of going radio silent. I didn't

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mean to be that way, butyou know, hey. Bret Brett over
on the Facebook group says, mostfans love The Spy Who Shagged Me,
but it is my least loved favorite. You said shagged? Oh my god,
most fans loved The Spy Who LovedMe, but it is my least

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favorite. Roger Film very sill thathe no no very interesting locations. The
worst bit for me apart from BarbaraBach. What was wrong with her.
I liked her. Is the scenewhere they sit around looking at us at
a slide and figure out that oratoryis laboratory with the first letters covered.

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It's like an idiot conference. Wasfun. That was funny. Yeah,
I was just like, oh goodlord, Yeah, that was ridiculous.
What's an oratory they had? Theyhad it? Do you answer? Perhaps
some of the letters might be covered, so yeah, oh gosh, I'm
sorry you didn't enjoy it, though, Yeah, Kyoki Young says to us.

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General Gogel returns in several bonds,as last being The Living Daylights in
nineteen eighty seven, when he isreplaced by General Pushkin launching a silly tradition
of naming the heads of the KGBafter famous Russian writers. Having lived in
Russia for ten years, I cantell you that both Gogel and Pushkin are
extremely rare surnames only really associated withthe writers. It's like having Cia Chief,

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Steinbeck and Hemmingway and David Wang pointedout, though he says he thinks
they picked He thinks they picked thesurnames rare, though they may be just
to show the audience behind the IronCurtain that they didn't just make shit up
when they came to the venerable bossof the KGB, and that's fair.
Yeah, you don't want to belike, we're just making up weird Russian

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sounding names, right because it Imean, it does actually seem like they
made attempts to not be racist oroffensive to other cultures. Yeah, they
didn't always get it right, no, but yeah, it does seem like
they wanted to be considerate to othercultures. Know, Kioki Young says to
us extra credit for trek Dave,did you recognize Walter gotel Google from TNG.

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I did not. In fact,I even looked him up after you
gave me his name, and Ilooked at the screenshots of him from TNG,
and I did not remember it.WHOA isn't that crazy? I was
just like, oh, who itis? I don't know who that is?
What is he? What's crack oflacking? Who does he? I
don't know if that guy? Um, yeah, I don't know. I'm

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sure, Like you know, therethere are certain episodes of TNG. I'm
just I'm sorry. I just somewho I do remember from TMG, tm
G, what what's happening you talkabout? TMZ The Mex Generation I'll tell
you who I remember from t andOkay Famansen. Oh yeah, I remember

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Fomka Jansen. Absolutely. I hitthe table with my foot. I'm sorry.
Moving on, I think we allremember, yeah Fumka. Oh anyway,
what I was just thinking about,how like when they had DACKX on

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DS now when they started DS nine, they gave her the same like head
bumps that the Trills had on TNG, and then they were like, no,
i'll do that. You're covering upall her hotness. Give her the
spots like Fomka. She was hotlike Fomka wasn't even a Trill. It
doesn't matter. They won't know.Wow, ask how Trills got their spots?
Wow, which series was it on? When someone was like, did

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those spots go all the way down? I don't know. I don't remember
that. Somebody maybe it was TNG. That sounds like something like Riker would
say or something. It does soundlike something he would say. Now,
I don't know. Maybe anyway,David Way and he says this, by
the way, exactly how I wouldsay it, he says. Richard Keel

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and Roger Moore are also in theCannonball Run race car movie movie. Because
I would refer to it as anythingbut a race car movie. Like I'm
just so removed from sporting things.I'm just like, yep, it's a
race car movie. Oh so CannonballRun is the name of the movie.
Yeah, I don't, but that'sinteresting about it. Yeah, I don't
know anything about it. The mostI know about it is right now.

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Yeah, I knew a guy Iused to work for, a guy like
you like comedy movie or seen thatCannonball Run. I'm like, nope,
he ain't ever seen Cannonball Run.Man, Cannonball Run the only comedy movie.
But I've seen Logan's Run. What'sthat? Don't worry about it.

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You wouldn't like it. That isinteresting though, that they were in another
movie together. Yeah, that's cool. Stu little Over on the Twitter says
spy loved me more like the spywho killed my boyfriend and who I let
bang me because of reasons? AmI right? Yes, You're very right.
I know. Like, while we'vebeen doing this episode, I've even

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been trying to like overanalyze the titleand be like, hm, the spy
who loved me? I mean that'sprobably talking about It's from James Bond's perspective
and triple X is the spy wholoved him. But I don't I feel
a little offended by that, Likewhat if it was from Anna's perspective,

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or like what if it was whatif it was from the perspective of I
know it isn't what if it wasfrom the perspective of the guy who Bond
killed, like or maybe they justcut off the first part of the sentence.
Maybe is the full the full titleis you killed the spy who loved
him? Right? Yeah, yeah, but yes, absolutely the spy who

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killed my boyfriend and who I letbang me because reasons. Yep. And
that summarizes the film yep. Suredoes ye get that double o dick.
Next episode, we'll be discussing Moonrakernineteen seventy nine. Roger Moore is in
this one again. James Bond uhlois Chili's as Holly Goodhead that's dirtier than

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anything I just said, Good gosh, Michael Lonsdale as Hugo Tracks and Richard
Keel again as Jaws. Do youknow who the big villain is in this
movie? I'm assuming Hugo drags okayuh Directed once again by Lewis Gilbert.
So I guess Richard Keel just hadlike some kind of reference letter from Stromberg.

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He's just like, hey, I'ma good Hinchman. I'm good at
hinching. Right, that's just moveon to the next job. I want
to see that resume. Yeah,like Hinchman responsibilities, hinching biting apparently,
like when he'd been into those thosechains on that Oh my gosh, the

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chains were made of licorice. Wow, that's why it's just anyway. Uh
yeah, I think I'm done.He done, We got it, We
got our next time, I thinkso until next time. Remember that's your
homeowners association requires that you rake youryard as much as they rake their moony.
You did it. I don't knowwhat it means. I only either

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babe, probably about mint jelly anda lamb the blue dick. No,
okay, that's no, that's notThanks for listening, and you're saying exactly

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what the voices in my head alwayssaid. Oh my gosh. You can
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